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Legally Brunette: Las Vegas Cheer Murders, Britney Spears, Diddy & Bryan Kohberger · Legally Brunette

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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, Welcome to an episode of Legally Brunette. I
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Speaker 1: will be your host Emily Simpson with my co host Shane.
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Speaker 1: All Right, so today we are going to I'm sure
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Speaker 1: if you have watched TV or have any kind of
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Speaker 1: social media, you've heard or saw or read about the
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Speaker 1: Las Vegas cheer murder suicide.
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk.
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Speaker 1: About that today and go into it as much in
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Speaker 1: depth as we can, as far as the information that
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Speaker 1: is out there. Also, this happened a couple of weekends ago.
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Speaker 1: Annabel and I were actually at this same cheer competition
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Speaker 1: that we're going to discuss. It's called Jams. It's a
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Speaker 1: large cheer competition. They have it in Vegas every year.
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Speaker 1: It's always Valentine's weekend because.
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Speaker 3: Like how many how many teams are kids.
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Speaker 2: Or I mean thousands, Yeah, I mean it's it's.
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Speaker 3: From all all the states, from all.
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Speaker 2: From all the states, from all the cheer gems.
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Speaker 1: It's a big one. It's called Jams. This was Annabel's
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Speaker 1: second going. We were there last year. It's always on
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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day weekend in Vegas, which is always ironic to
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Speaker 1: me because Shane and I actually got married in Vegas
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Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day. So now I celebrate our anniversary in
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Speaker 1: Vegas without Shane, but Annabel and I spend you know,
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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day together on our anniversary. Now cheer competition, so
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Speaker 1: there we go, all right. So Adeline Smith this is
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Speaker 1: the name of the cheerleader. She was an eleven year
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Speaker 1: old cheerleader from Utah who was found dead alongside her mother,
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Speaker 1: Tanya McGeehan, in a Las Vegas hotel room on February fifteenth.
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Speaker 1: Concern first grew when the pair failed to appear at
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Speaker 1: a scheduled this is a cheer competition and stopped responding
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Speaker 1: to messages. Later that afternoon, hotel security entered the room
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Speaker 1: after repeated concerns and discovered both victims. Authorities later determined
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Speaker 1: that McGeehan this is the mother, fatally shot her daughter
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Speaker 1: and then shot herself. You know, first of all, I
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Speaker 1: will tell you when it comes to the cheer competitions,
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Speaker 1: they're very strict about schedules and you have to be
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Speaker 1: there at a certain time.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be like start time will be like five
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Speaker 3: oh three.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, well that's.
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Speaker 1: Like the performance. It's very specific. They're every three minutes
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Speaker 1: or whatever. It is, and they keep a very strict schedule.
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Speaker 1: So then your specific cheer gem, like for example, Animal's
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Speaker 1: cheer Gem, sends out a very strict schedule that says
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Speaker 1: you have to be there at a certain time for
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Speaker 1: your warm up, for your practice, hair and makeup ready,
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Speaker 1: and then they will perform shortly after that.
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Speaker 2: So I'm sure that when she.
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Speaker 1: Did not arrive to a warm up or to a
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Speaker 1: practice right before there's scheduled to perform that day, it
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Speaker 1: immediately alerts red flags because that's not something you miss.
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Speaker 1: You traveled all the way to Vegas for a cheer competition,
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Speaker 1: So if you're not at the designated time right and.
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Speaker 3: You're missing, and they see the like everyone sees each
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Speaker 3: other before, everyone's probably all the cheer moms are talking,
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Speaker 3: so it's like everyone knows and there, everyone's there and.
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Speaker 1: Usually stay in the same hotels, so it's like if
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Speaker 1: someone isn't there, then that's an immediate it's not like, oh,
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Speaker 1: they'll just come later. So let's give a little background
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Speaker 1: to this to this family. So back in twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 1: the divorce was finalized. This was between Adel and Smith's parents.
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Speaker 1: Tanya McGeehan is the mom and her dad. After the divorce,
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Speaker 1: the two parents continue navigating custody arrangements for their daughter. Then,
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, there was a temporary custody change. A
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Speaker 1: judge temporarily removed a custody of Addie from Tanya. The
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Speaker 1: decision is tied to concerns described to court records as
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Speaker 1: parental alienation.
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Speaker 2: And what that means is you can talk about parental alienation.
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Speaker 2: You know a lot about that. So what does that mean?
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Speaker 3: Okay, let's say one parent says, Hey, we're having family
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Speaker 3: over on Tuesday, and can can so and so come
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Speaker 3: over so we can celebrate together even though it's not
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Speaker 3: our day. And then the parent says no, or the
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Speaker 3: parent doesn't let the kid call the other parent, or
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Speaker 3: they argue in court not because it's the best interest
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Speaker 3: of the child for their schedule, but rather to get
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Speaker 3: away from mom or dad. All kinds of crapping that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think of specific examples, like even when it.
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Speaker 3: Comes to bad mouthing the other parent to the kids
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Speaker 3: about the other parents. So then you're instilling in of
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Speaker 3: these kids that mom or dad is bad, and then
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Speaker 3: they don't have a they don't grow with a relationship
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Speaker 3: with the other parent. It's bad. It's for the sole
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Speaker 3: reason of the parent because they hate the other the
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Speaker 3: ex that's the sole reason. It's not for the best
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Speaker 3: thing for the child. In fact, the stupid thing is
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Speaker 3: if you're really selfish, you would embrace the other parent
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Speaker 3: and allow the other parent to be a part of it,
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Speaker 3: because then it would offload some of the parenting that
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Speaker 3: and being with the child. You would have some days off,
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Speaker 3: the child would be happier, you'd have another parent, another
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Speaker 3: adult that can help out as needed. But they're too
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Speaker 3: shortsighted to see that.
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Speaker 1: I would just have to say, for a judge to
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Speaker 1: order an actual order where her custody was taken away,
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Speaker 1: that means that was some serious parental alienation. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: just like she wasn't letting her call, or she wasn't
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Speaker 1: letting her pick up the phone if the dad called,
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Speaker 1: or she was kind of messing with the schedule. That
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Speaker 1: was like, there must have been clearer evidence that she
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Speaker 1: was doing everything possible to prohibit the daughter from having
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Speaker 1: a relationship with the debt.
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Speaker 3: So then the idea is it would go to the
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Speaker 3: other parent in this case, because the judge is likely
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Speaker 3: going to think, Okay, you're a parent that will facilitate
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Speaker 3: a relationship with mom, So we're going to put the
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Speaker 3: child in your hands and then you will facilitate, because
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Speaker 3: then if that guy's just alienating the mom, then you're
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Speaker 3: just you're no better.
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Speaker 1: Off, right, But I guess in this decision he was
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Speaker 1: the better choice at that time to allow her to
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Speaker 1: have a relationship with both parents. So then in twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four, the custody is modified again and there's a
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Speaker 1: new rolling that updates the arrangement. Both parents are then
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Speaker 1: granted joint legal and physical custody of Addie. I would
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Speaker 1: assume that over those four years between twenty twenty and
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, that she showed some type of change
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Speaker 1: in behavior that would allow the modification to be modified,
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Speaker 1: that she has physical custody again.
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Speaker 3: Probably.
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Speaker 1: So let's talk about the days leading up to this
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Speaker 1: discovery of this incident. This is February fourteenth, This is
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Speaker 1: the day before the incident. So this is actually I
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Speaker 1: believe it was a Friday, because I think that's the
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Speaker 1: day we arrived in Vegas. So Addie attends cheer practice
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Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. Her father later says that he spoke
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Speaker 1: with both Addie and Tanya that day. According to him,
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Speaker 1: nothing seemed unusual during the conversation. I also believe that,
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Speaker 1: you know, I told you this when I was there
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Speaker 1: with Annabel. She didn't go, but there were a lot
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Speaker 1: of kids that went to New York, New York. That
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Speaker 1: was like a big thing for all those cheerleaders because
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Speaker 1: there's the roller coaster, and I believe the mom and
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Speaker 1: Addie both went to the New York New York New
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Speaker 1: York Hotel that night, probably did the roller coaster. Who knows,
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Speaker 1: but I believe she posted some photos of the two
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Speaker 1: of them together in Las Vegas talking about day one.
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Speaker 1: They're excited to be there. Then the next day is
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Speaker 1: February fifteenth. This is in the morning, Addie and her
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Speaker 1: mother are scheduled to attend a cheer competition in Las Vegas.
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Speaker 1: Like I said before, it's like her coach would have
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Speaker 1: put out a strict timeline as to when they're supposed
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Speaker 1: to be there.
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Speaker 2: They clearly don't show up.
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Speaker 1: They fail to arrive at the scheduled time, and then
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Speaker 1: ADDIE's father and her cheer coach become deeply concerned. So
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Speaker 1: then at ten forty three am, the Las Vegas Metropolitan
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Speaker 1: Police Department dispatch receives a welfare check request from Addie
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Speaker 1: Smith's father and stepmother. Officers go to the hotel room
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Speaker 1: and knock on the door. This is in the morning,
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Speaker 1: ten forty three. No one responds, and police do not
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Speaker 1: believe anyone inside is in immediate danger for.
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Speaker 3: The dad to initiate that, that means either parents, no
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Speaker 3: one could get hold of the mom out, so the
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Speaker 3: parents were probably reaching out to some of them reaching
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Speaker 3: out to him. Have you heard yeah? Or maybe he
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Speaker 3: had communication with his daughter and that ended and then
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Speaker 3: he was like, what's going on?
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Speaker 1: I did read and I don't know if it's later,
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Speaker 1: but I did read that he was able to communicate
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Speaker 1: or to they must have like life three sixty or something,
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Speaker 1: because I believe he was able to see where they
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Speaker 1: were or what was going on, but it got cut
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Speaker 1: off at a certain time and then he didn't have access.
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Speaker 3: Maybe the phone ended up dying or something.
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Speaker 1: Or she turned it off or I don't know what happened,
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Speaker 1: but there was a period of time where then he
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Speaker 1: knew he didn't know any longer.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you the first call that was made was
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Speaker 1: the cheer coach, and the cheer coach called the dad.
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Speaker 1: And that's what happened, because as soon as she didn't
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Speaker 1: arrive on time, it was the cheer coach that made
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Speaker 1: the first call. Obviously. Then more calls start to come in.
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Speaker 1: ADDIE's coach contacts nine to one to one twice. I
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Speaker 1: actually listened to the phone call where the coach calls
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Speaker 1: nine to one to one. The coach calls at eleven
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Speaker 1: eighteen am and then again at eleven twenty seven am.
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Speaker 1: After realizing the two still have not arrived at the competition,
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Speaker 1: she told dispatchers, this is the call that came in
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Speaker 1: from the coach.
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Speaker 3: Is this the first day of competitions?
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Speaker 1: No, this is the second day. But I don't know
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Speaker 1: what their schedule was. I don't know if they competed
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Speaker 1: the day before.
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Speaker 3: Well that's why I meant, so you don't know if
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Speaker 3: it was their first competition, yeah or not.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know, because I just know Annabel's on
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Speaker 1: two teams, and each of her teams competed twice, so
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Speaker 1: she actually competed four times. So this is the call
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Speaker 1: that came in from the coach. She said to nine
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Speaker 1: to one one. Her mom has a bunch of medical issues.
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Speaker 1: They're staying at the rio, but no one can get
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Speaker 1: a hold of them. We think the child, because she
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Speaker 1: doesn't have custody, We think the child possibly is in
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Speaker 1: imminent danger. So but the hotel won't give us any
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Speaker 1: information on if they're in the room or not. It
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Speaker 1: has to go through you guys. Now, I don't know
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Speaker 1: why the coach said she doesn't have custody. Maybe the
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Speaker 1: coach was just confused with the custody arrangement, because as
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Speaker 1: far as I know, she got physical custody back in
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 2: But maybe the coach wasn't aware. Maybe the coach just
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Speaker 2: knew that they'd.
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Speaker 3: Had Well a lot of people use that term loosely
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Speaker 3: and aren't familiar with, you know, nor should she have
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Speaker 3: to be familiar with exactly what their arrangement.
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Speaker 1: Well, you know what else it might have been when
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Speaker 1: she when the coach said she doesn't have custody. They
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Speaker 1: might have switched a weekend around or something so that
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Speaker 1: the mom could take her to the cheer competition. It
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Speaker 1: might not have been her actual custodial time. So maybe
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Speaker 1: that's what she meant.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: So then at eleven, twenty six, am Addi's stepmother calls
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Speaker 1: nine one one, saying, quote, we are extremely concerned. We
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Speaker 1: believe that something might have seriously happened. You know what
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Speaker 1: I kept thinking about because you know, Annabel's in cheer.
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Speaker 1: You have daughters, Annabelle and I travel to cheer competitions.
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Speaker 1: I can't really it's hard to fathom the panic that
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Speaker 1: this dad was going through because he talks to the
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Speaker 1: mother and the daughter the night before, and they're in Vegas,
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Speaker 1: and they're at a cheer competition, and there's clearly been
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Speaker 1: issues with custody. It's probably been and very volatile in
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Speaker 1: the past, and then all of a sudden, he can't
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Speaker 1: get a hold of the mother, and he can't get
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Speaker 1: ahold of his daughter, and no one else can get
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Speaker 1: a hold of them, and he's got cheer coaches calling him.
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Speaker 1: He's probably got cheer mom's calling him.
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Speaker 3: He's aware that no one can find it right, and he.
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Speaker 2: Is not there, He's not in Vegas. They live in Utah.
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Speaker 1: So I can't imagine the panic that he has to
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Speaker 1: endure trying to figure out what is going on.
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Speaker 3: And he might know a lot more about how the
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Speaker 3: mom is and the dynamic and what she's capable of.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's maybe he's like, does he know that
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Speaker 3: she carries guns on?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: So.
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Speaker 1: Then, on the afternoon of February fifteenth, the hotel staff
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Speaker 1: finally enter the room at two twenty seven pm. Inside,
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Speaker 1: they discover both Addie Smith eleven and her mother, Tanya McGee,
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Speaker 1: hand thirty four.
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Speaker 2: They were both dead.
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Speaker 1: Fire officials at the scene reportedly found a note on
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Speaker 1: a door before the bodies were found. The details of
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Speaker 1: the note have not been released. You know, I did
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Speaker 1: read about the note, but I can never find anything
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Speaker 1: that says what the contents of the note are. They
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Speaker 1: call it a suicide note. I don't know what it says,
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Speaker 1: and they I also read that it was found on
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Speaker 1: the door, but I'm assuming it's found on the end
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Speaker 1: side of.
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Speaker 2: The door or anything on the.
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Speaker 1: Outside of the door. Otherwise they would have known that
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Speaker 1: they needed to enter. But you know, we'll talk about
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Speaker 1: this more. But first of all, it was gunshot wounds,
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Speaker 1: so she carried a gun with her. So she had
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Speaker 1: a firearm. And my question is did she bring a firearm?
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Speaker 3: Well, was the intent when she brought the firearm? Cheat, Yes,
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Speaker 3: I mean, they drove.
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Speaker 2: They clearly drove. They didn't fly right.
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Speaker 1: They drove from Utah to Vegas for a cheer competition.
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Speaker 1: She brings a firearm with her was her intent. And
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Speaker 1: bringing the firearm because they're a mother and a daughter
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Speaker 1: and they're traveling alone and they're staying in a hotel,
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Speaker 1: and so she was scared, so she brought it as
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Speaker 1: a safety precaution, and then she had some mental breakdown later.
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Speaker 1: So then ADDIE's father keeps calling. At two thirty nine PM,
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Speaker 1: not yet aware of what authorities had discovered ADDIE's fire
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Speaker 1: They're contacted dispatch once again.
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Speaker 2: This is what he says.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to file a missing person's report for my daughter,
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Speaker 1: he told the operator. At three thirteen PM, ADDIE's father
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Speaker 1: and stepmother call again, still searching for answers. We just
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Speaker 1: need some information. There was a room check done around
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Speaker 1: three o'clock. We really don't know where to start with
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Speaker 1: all of this. Can we have them call us back immediately.
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Speaker 1: This guy's freaking out, I mean he's just calling over
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Speaker 1: and understandably. So at four h five PM, ADDIE's father
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Speaker 1: was finally connected with an officer. Desperate for clarity, he
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Speaker 1: urged police to act quickly. I need someone there. I
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Speaker 1: need someone there looking in that room. What's sad is
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Speaker 1: this is at four oh five and the bodies were
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Speaker 1: discovered at two twenty seven, so at this point they
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Speaker 1: already are aware that these Yeah, the mother and daughter
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Speaker 1: have been dead for an hour and a half. But
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Speaker 1: he's panicking and saying that he knows like that something's
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Speaker 1: severely wrong and someone needs to enter the room.
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Speaker 2: He just doesn't, which it.
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Speaker 3: Makes me think he knows what she's capable of. I'm
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Speaker 3: not putting any fault on him, but he knows what
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Speaker 3: she's capable of. Maybe he knows she's violent, may maybe
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Speaker 3: she's thrown not threats like that before.
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Speaker 1: I need someone there. I need someone there looking in
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Speaker 1: that room. The officer told him that law enforcement was
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Speaker 1: already inside the room. ADDIE's father asked what officers had found.
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Speaker 1: The officer explained that he was not at the scene
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Speaker 1: and had only limited information. I'm telling you, I can't
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Speaker 1: even fathom what his dad is going through. The multiple
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Speaker 1: phone calls, the not getting any information, calling nine to
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Speaker 1: one one repeatedly telling.
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Speaker 2: Them to go in the room.
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Speaker 1: Knowing now that they are inside the room, but they're
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Speaker 1: telling him that they have limited information, like you have
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Speaker 1: to be in complete panic mode.
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Speaker 3: Why wouldn't they release that information to him right away?
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Speaker 3: What barriers do they have to go through and things
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Speaker 3: to check off in order to tell the father that
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Speaker 3: has chilled his child is dead.
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Speaker 2: I you know, I don't know. I don't know if
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Speaker 2: they felt like that.
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Speaker 3: I can respect there's some protocols and they're that's going
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Speaker 3: to shout it out from the rooftops. But here is
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Speaker 3: the guy that's saying I am the father and I'm
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Speaker 3: the one looking for them.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: So Then, at five twenty three pm, nearly seven hours
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Speaker 1: after the family's first request for a welfare check, ADDIE's
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Speaker 1: grandmother also contacted police. She described confusion among relatives as
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Speaker 1: conflicting reports were circulating. Dismatch said officers would reach out
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Speaker 1: once more details were available. So, then again, this is
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Speaker 1: the problem. You're calling and instead of you're not getting
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Speaker 1: a oh, we walked into the room and everything's fine.
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Speaker 1: We found them. So they know there's a problem, right
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Speaker 1: because otherwise because they know they went into the room.
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Speaker 1: So the fact that they know they went into the room,
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Speaker 1: but they're not saying oh yeah, we went into.
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Speaker 2: The room she was taking it out.
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Speaker 1: Then you're in full blown panic mode because it's not good.
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Speaker 1: Right Then, around eight pm, the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police
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Speaker 1: Department held a press conference confirming that Addie and her mother, Tanya,
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Speaker 1: had been found dead inside the hotel room. Investigators conclude
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Speaker 1: that the mother had shot her daughter before turning the
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Speaker 1: gun on herself. Authority state that no motive has been
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Speaker 1: publicly identified. I do know, I mean, this is it's terrible.
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Speaker 1: But she shot her daughter in the head, and then
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Speaker 1: she turned the gun on herself. Correct, And you know,
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Speaker 1: here's again. I know we talked about this a little bit,
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Speaker 1: but just to bring.
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Speaker 2: It up again.
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Speaker 1: I what is hard for me to understand is if
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Speaker 1: it was premeditated and she knew all along that she
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Speaker 1: was going to do that, and that's why she brought
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Speaker 1: the gun with her, then why go through all the
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Speaker 1: hoops of like letting your daughter get excited about a
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Speaker 1: cheer competition, getting the uniform, getting the hair and makeup ready, packing,
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Speaker 1: traveling to a cheer competition. Obviously they all met there
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Speaker 1: on a Friday. She was there the first day. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if they competed or not, But if they didn't,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure they had some kind.
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Speaker 2: Of team building activity. Sure, you know, I heard.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is true, but I did
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Speaker 1: read some articles that said that the mother had some
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Speaker 1: words with some.
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Speaker 2: Of the other cheer moms.
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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if that had any effect
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Speaker 1: on what was going on in her mind mentally. I mean,
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Speaker 1: if you've ever watched dance Moms or anything like, some
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Speaker 1: of those moms can be pretty volatile towards each other.
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Speaker 1: I've never dealt with that on Annibal's.
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Speaker 3: Dads, not the dad, as the moms.
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Speaker 1: I haven't dealt with that specifically. I feel like I'm
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Speaker 1: very lucky. At the gym where Annabel goes to, all
17:24
Speaker 1: the moms are pretty cool and everybody gets along really well.
17:27
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of cheer gems and dance
17:29
Speaker 1: places where the moms get so competitive and they end
17:34
Speaker 1: up fighting amongst themselves and talking about the other daughters
17:37
Speaker 1: and having you know, that's why they make reality TV
17:40
Speaker 1: shows about dance moms and cheer moms, because they're a.
17:45
Speaker 2: Whole nother breed of women.
17:47
Speaker 1: So I don't know if this mom had some words
17:49
Speaker 1: with some cheer moms.
17:50
Speaker 2: I don't know.
17:51
Speaker 3: Well, get my thought is she was probably on the
17:54
Speaker 3: verge of suicide, Like she probably had those thoughts, maybe
17:58
Speaker 3: she entertained them every once in a while and she
18:00
Speaker 3: swayed back and forth. The gun. Did she bring it
18:03
Speaker 3: for that reason? I don't know. I don't know if
18:05
Speaker 3: she always carries, but nonetheless she did bring it, And
18:07
Speaker 3: I'm guessing something happened that pushed her over the edge
18:11
Speaker 3: to follow through on probably what she was always contemplating.
18:15
Speaker 1: So you're saying she probably always visualized or thought about
18:18
Speaker 1: in her mind and then something just.
18:21
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, like when someone commits suicide. And I'm not
18:24
Speaker 3: going to speak for everyone, but I can imagine that
18:25
Speaker 3: when someone commits suicide, it's a thought that rings in
18:28
Speaker 3: their head for a very long time, whether it be
18:31
Speaker 3: a month or six months or years, and then they
18:33
Speaker 3: pull the trigger. Right, It's not like they wake up
18:36
Speaker 3: one morning, have a bad day and then you just
18:38
Speaker 3: can't handle it. So it's likely that she lived on
18:43
Speaker 3: the edge of, you know, suicide, close to the line
18:48
Speaker 3: of suicide, right.
18:49
Speaker 2: Yeah. The motive hasn't been released.
18:51
Speaker 1: I would assume maybe there was some type of motive
18:53
Speaker 1: or something written in the letter that she left behind.
18:55
Speaker 1: Maybe there's something that explains it. I don't know, but
18:57
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting because I feel like at some point
18:59
Speaker 1: where know maybe what her last.
19:01
Speaker 3: School, or if the dad speaks out, maybe he can
19:03
Speaker 3: kind of elaborate a little bit.
19:05
Speaker 2: On Yeah, but that was it.
19:06
Speaker 3: That's going to be a while though, because the news
19:09
Speaker 3: it was.
19:09
Speaker 2: A tragic, tragic story.
19:10
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you just being so physically close to it,
19:13
Speaker 1: like I don't know, maybe I walked past her on
19:15
Speaker 1: that Friday at the cheer competition.
19:16
Speaker 2: I mean every day when we left, we drove.
19:19
Speaker 3: The team has a huge loss. Ye great, and it's
19:23
Speaker 3: gonna be etched in their minds forever because not because
19:27
Speaker 3: the cheer competition is important, but then they couldn't compete
19:31
Speaker 3: right one because emotionally they're all hurting, and then two
19:35
Speaker 3: they miss a teammate, right, So I mean it's it's
19:38
Speaker 3: just it affected that, which affects the whole weekend, which
19:41
Speaker 3: they're already emotional. So now they go home and they're
19:45
Speaker 3: always going to remember it was like you know what
19:47
Speaker 3: I mean, It wasn't just like they went to school
19:48
Speaker 3: one day and heard that heard that unfortunately there was
19:51
Speaker 3: a death of a student. It's like this is it
19:54
Speaker 3: tore a piece of everyone's heart away, right.
19:56
Speaker 1: And those kids were right in the mix of them
19:58
Speaker 1: trying to find her and calling. I'm sure they were
20:00
Speaker 1: all standing around then.
20:01
Speaker 3: You said earlier. They're on this high, right, They're all excited,
20:05
Speaker 3: they're having fun team building you know moments, and then boom,
20:09
Speaker 3: this gets just tear away from it.
20:11
Speaker 1: What's sad is they're always going to associate cheer and
20:14
Speaker 1: cheer competitions, which are supposed to be empowering and you know,
20:18
Speaker 1: girls working together and teamwork and camaraderie and all those things.
20:21
Speaker 1: And now for this poor team, you know, they're going
20:24
Speaker 1: to associate it with a tragedy.
20:26
Speaker 2: And anyway, that was.
20:28
Speaker 1: A deeply depressing story. But I you know, and I
20:33
Speaker 1: always I try not to. I don't know what was
20:36
Speaker 1: going through the mom's mind.
20:37
Speaker 2: I don't know.
20:38
Speaker 1: I mean I can look at it as a mother
20:40
Speaker 1: and think there's there was no way. I always wish,
20:42
Speaker 1: why can't you just take yourself out? You know, It's
20:45
Speaker 1: like even all these other cases we talked about, like
20:46
Speaker 1: Josh Powell or Chris Watts, you know, it's like why
20:50
Speaker 1: why the kids?
20:52
Speaker 3: You know, like just we don't, like you said, we
20:55
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on. Is her head thinking that
20:57
Speaker 3: the dad's an evil person and so my child can't
21:00
Speaker 3: be with him and I can't survive, and I don't know.
21:04
Speaker 2: You know, there's one more thing I wanted to point out.
21:06
Speaker 1: Maybe you know this better because I don't really understand
21:08
Speaker 1: guns or anything like that. I've never even shot a gun.
21:11
Speaker 1: Have you like a real gun. I've never shot a
21:13
Speaker 1: real guy.
21:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like to. But I had, like at
21:15
Speaker 3: a target at shooting range, you know, I went with
21:17
Speaker 3: some friends.
21:18
Speaker 1: I've never even been to a shooting range. But the
21:20
Speaker 1: hotel guests said that they did not hear anything. They
21:23
Speaker 1: didn't hear a shot fired. There were two shots and
21:26
Speaker 1: no one heard anything. So is it that the hotel
21:29
Speaker 1: rooms are just that no, what do you think she likes?
21:32
Speaker 3: It's not like it rings throughout the building. It's not
21:35
Speaker 3: like TV.
21:36
Speaker 2: But even the person next door wouldn't hear anything.
21:39
Speaker 3: Oh there was someone next door?
21:41
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if there was. I'm assuming that
21:45
Speaker 1: probably because of this cheer competition. I'm assuming that most
21:47
Speaker 1: of the rooms are booked. There's a lot of people.
21:49
Speaker 1: That's true, all right, let's move on to Britney Spears.
22:01
Speaker 1: So Britney Spears was taken into custody Wednesday night in
22:04
Speaker 1: Ventura County, California, on suspicion of driving under the influence.
22:08
Speaker 1: This is according to reports by Variety. I also saw
22:11
Speaker 1: I think TMZ was the one who broke the news.
22:13
Speaker 1: That's where I first saw it. So authorities with the
22:16
Speaker 1: California Highway Patrol reportedly stopped and handcuffed the singer around
22:20
Speaker 1: nine thirty pm. She was later booked into custody early
22:23
Speaker 1: Thursday morning at approximately three am. Records indicates she has
22:28
Speaker 1: since been released and is expected to appear in court
22:30
Speaker 1: on May fourth.
22:33
Speaker 2: I did read.
22:34
Speaker 1: That she was taken to the hospital, but it wasn't
22:37
Speaker 1: because she was injured. It was because they took her
22:39
Speaker 1: to the hospital to get her blood alcohol content her BAC.
22:43
Speaker 2: And what is the legal limit in California? Point zero
22:46
Speaker 2: eight point zero eight?
22:48
Speaker 3: I read, I like to follow the rule of point
22:50
Speaker 3: zero zero.
22:51
Speaker 2: Well, you've never had a drink of alcohol?
22:54
Speaker 3: Zip of alcohol?
22:54
Speaker 2: Never shake?
22:56
Speaker 1: Someperver has never had a sip about call in his
23:00
Speaker 1: entire life.
23:01
Speaker 3: By everyone shoving it in front of me, tempting me
23:04
Speaker 3: to take it to take it.
23:06
Speaker 2: Have I ever done that?
23:07
Speaker 3: Probably I've had I've never read heroin either or cocaine.
23:11
Speaker 2: Well I haven't either.
23:12
Speaker 1: I see, Yeah, all right, So I read she was
23:15
Speaker 1: taken to the hospital just for the blood work.
23:18
Speaker 3: Yeah, and which is what you should do. And I
23:22
Speaker 3: read ever the breathalyzer.
23:24
Speaker 2: Why because it's more it's more accurate.
23:27
Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, because what if you just like
23:30
Speaker 3: did some mouthwash right where you took some niquil like
23:33
Speaker 3: it's going to be it could affect it. Plus I
23:36
Speaker 3: think blood alcohol, like if you do the blood test,
23:38
Speaker 3: it's a little bit more documented versus some officer like
23:42
Speaker 3: in the field that's.
23:43
Speaker 1: A defense attorney could challenge a breathalyzer or no, it's
23:46
Speaker 1: just more than a doctor that did a or a.
23:49
Speaker 3: Cop could phony up a breathalyzer. I don't know how
23:52
Speaker 3: well those document those are documented.
23:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read, and I don't know if this is true.
23:56
Speaker 2: I did read that. People I always like how they
24:00
Speaker 2: say people close.
24:01
Speaker 1: In her camp said Britney's camp. Britney's camp like people
24:05
Speaker 1: close in her camp.
24:06
Speaker 3: All those mooching off of her.
24:07
Speaker 2: I have said that she.
24:09
Speaker 1: Claims that she blew a not blew her BAC was
24:13
Speaker 1: a point six.
24:14
Speaker 3: What did those cops think when they pull her over?
24:17
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they didn't recognize her until they get
24:19
Speaker 1: her license and they're like, man, we need your registration
24:21
Speaker 1: license and then she hands it and they're like.
24:23
Speaker 3: Britney's hear, why you have this fake ID?
24:25
Speaker 2: Yeah? I wonder what photos on her license? Though?
24:28
Speaker 3: Do you think it's from which era? Yeah?
24:30
Speaker 2: Like is it a recent one, like a recent.
24:33
Speaker 3: School girl outfit, or is it like.
24:35
Speaker 2: A hit me baby one more time? I don't know.
24:38
Speaker 2: I don't know either.
24:39
Speaker 1: Annamel saw my license the other day and she was
24:41
Speaker 1: like making fun of it because I don't know, you
24:44
Speaker 1: know what my grandmother I remember when I was growing up,
24:46
Speaker 1: I would look at my grandmother's license and I kid
24:48
Speaker 1: you not, she was eighty and her photo on her
24:51
Speaker 1: license was like when she was from like thirty five
24:53
Speaker 1: my mom, Oh, yeah's photos from a long time ago.
24:59
Speaker 3: R because they just renew it. They don't make you change.
25:02
Speaker 3: So I think recently she did go on the DMB anyway,
25:04
Speaker 3: that's besides, but I remember that too, looking at her licensing,
25:07
Speaker 3: and that's a long time I get, yeah, right, isn't
25:10
Speaker 3: that what you want?
25:11
Speaker 2: Do?
25:11
Speaker 3: You want yours to stay from a long time.
25:12
Speaker 1: I want it to be permanently young and youthful looking. Yes,
25:16
Speaker 1: isn't Paras hill On the one that showed up? Or
25:18
Speaker 1: was that Kim Kardashian that showed up to get their
25:20
Speaker 1: license picture and they brought like a glam team and
25:22
Speaker 1: a ring light so they'd have.
25:24
Speaker 2: Like head lighting.
25:25
Speaker 3: I think it was Hilt.
25:27
Speaker 2: I was like, that's a good idea because the lighting
25:30
Speaker 2: is always so bad.
25:32
Speaker 1: So I feel like, next time I have to get
25:34
Speaker 1: a new photo for my license, I would like you
25:37
Speaker 1: to just bring a couple of ring lights and set
25:39
Speaker 1: them up and I'll get my hair and makeup done.
25:41
Speaker 2: No, no, all right, all right, So what are the
25:44
Speaker 2: next steps? So, in the state of California, if.
25:46
Speaker 1: You get pulled over, uh huh, and you get arrested
25:49
Speaker 1: for a DUI. Yeah, but you call the DMV within
25:52
Speaker 1: ten days of your arrest, you can keep your license valid.
25:57
Speaker 1: So her team is likely contacting the DMB to set
25:59
Speaker 1: up a hue date so that she has a valid license.
26:02
Speaker 1: Then the California Highway Patrol will submit their police report
26:06
Speaker 1: to the Ventura County Prosecutor's office. Once they get that report,
26:10
Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office will read it and determine whether there
26:13
Speaker 1: is enough evidence to charge her.
26:17
Speaker 3: She shouldn't even be driving, yeah, you know she's got
26:20
Speaker 3: the fun.
26:20
Speaker 2: I mean, she shouldn't be dancing on Instagram.
26:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, she she's not a good dancer.
26:27
Speaker 1: No, Britney Spears is a phenomenal dancer. She there is
26:32
Speaker 1: no one like Britney Spears. Sometimes in when I'm on Instagram,
26:35
Speaker 1: sometimes I get into a Britney Spears algorithm where everything
26:39
Speaker 1: I just flip through is old Britney videos, And I
26:42
Speaker 1: tell you, it just takes me back to like ninety eight,
26:46
Speaker 1: ninety nine, early two thousands when she was just the
26:49
Speaker 1: queen of pop. There is no one like Britney Spears.
26:52
Speaker 1: The talent, off the charts, the charisma.
26:56
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
26:58
Speaker 2: Well, but she was.
27:00
Speaker 3: Entertainment for sure. Yeah, it was popular. She was huge, huge, Well,
27:04
Speaker 3: no doubt about that huge. Okay, So back to she
27:06
Speaker 3: shouldn't be driving, Okay, she should have a driver.
27:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, why doesn't she have a driver.
27:10
Speaker 3: I don't know because same with same with U. Who
27:13
Speaker 3: was justin Timberlake a while ago. He like left a
27:17
Speaker 3: party and they got it. Did he get a DUI. Yeah,
27:19
Speaker 3: and it's like, why are you doing that? Have a driver,
27:21
Speaker 3: because then if there's an accident, whether it's the driver's
27:24
Speaker 3: fould or not, you get out of the car and
27:27
Speaker 3: you get a new driver and you move on. They
27:29
Speaker 3: don't sue you, they don't involve you. You're totally clean. Yeah.
27:34
Speaker 1: I don't know why more people don't have driver. I
27:35
Speaker 1: mean I plan to have a driver.
27:39
Speaker 3: Huh.
27:39
Speaker 2: I would love to have a driver.
27:40
Speaker 3: I plan the next Queen of Pop you get a driver.
27:43
Speaker 2: No, Heather Debrow has a driver. I feel like I
27:45
Speaker 2: could have a driver too. I don't.
27:46
Speaker 1: I'm tired of driving. I'm fifty years old. I've been
27:49
Speaker 1: driving since I was sixteen.
27:50
Speaker 3: I don't want a driver. So you can look at Instagram,
27:52
Speaker 3: well exactly, yeah.
27:53
Speaker 1: I just want to sit in the back row and
27:57
Speaker 1: look at Instagram or make phone calls a re emails.
28:00
Speaker 2: I don't want to drive anymore.
28:02
Speaker 1: So I don't understand why these celebrities don't have a driver.
28:04
Speaker 1: I mean they have the money. I don't get it
28:06
Speaker 1: all right anyway, that's Britney Sir, a black BMW because
28:11
Speaker 1: I saw photos of it being released from the m
28:13
Speaker 1: Pound lot.
28:15
Speaker 3: So yes, kind of boring.
28:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you want? You wanted?
28:18
Speaker 3: I don't know, something flashy.
28:20
Speaker 1: Something flashy? Yeah, sorry about that. It was a black BMW.
28:24
Speaker 1: Her agent or her manager released a statement and said
28:30
Speaker 1: this was an unfortunate and inexcusable incident. Brittany will take
28:34
Speaker 1: the right steps, comply with the law, and we hope
28:36
Speaker 1: this marks the start of long overdue change in her life.
28:39
Speaker 1: She needs help and support during this difficult time.
28:42
Speaker 3: Why pretty much admitted GUILTA didn't he.
28:44
Speaker 1: Her boys will be spending time with her, and her
28:46
Speaker 1: loved ones are putting a plan in place to set
28:49
Speaker 1: her up for success and well being. You know, the
28:51
Speaker 1: way that sounds to me is that they're saying, you
28:53
Speaker 1: know what, we're all hoping that this is like a
28:56
Speaker 1: rock bottom moment for Brittany and maybe shol.
29:00
Speaker 3: Where did she? Where was she coming from?
29:03
Speaker 2: I didn't ask her.
29:04
Speaker 1: I don't because did she like me to talk to
29:06
Speaker 1: her and ask, well, you read Instagram?
29:08
Speaker 3: Did she like go to like a? Was she like
29:09
Speaker 3: at a bar? She left?
29:11
Speaker 2: I don't know, she was alone? I do know that
29:14
Speaker 2: there was no.
29:15
Speaker 3: Oney again, was she at a bar alone? Just drinking?
29:17
Speaker 3: And then like, well, you don't have.
29:19
Speaker 1: To go to a bar to get a dui. Maybe
29:21
Speaker 1: she went to a restaurant. Maybe she drank before she left.
29:25
Speaker 3: That's what I'm asking. I'm saying, I want to know
29:27
Speaker 3: what kind of entertainment she was doing, like prior to
29:31
Speaker 3: the dui?
29:31
Speaker 2: Why is she entertaining people?
29:33
Speaker 3: Well, if not entertaining people, like, what was she doing
29:36
Speaker 3: for herself that she got drunk and then got in
29:37
Speaker 3: a car.
29:38
Speaker 1: She can't just go sit at a bar. There would
29:40
Speaker 1: be eight billion photos of her sitting alone.
29:42
Speaker 2: At a bar.
29:43
Speaker 3: I know, I'm wondering what was she doing.
29:45
Speaker 2: I think she was drinking at home and then she
29:48
Speaker 2: drove somewhere.
29:49
Speaker 3: Where was she going?
29:50
Speaker 2: I don't know, to a bar? I don't know. All Right,
29:54
Speaker 2: we will keep you informed.
29:56
Speaker 3: May fourth is her hearing, yes.
29:58
Speaker 2: May fourth, and we will keep you up to date
30:00
Speaker 2: on any information we find out.
30:02
Speaker 3: How fourth be with her the Queen of pop.
30:13
Speaker 1: All right, Sean didtycoms Land's early prison release as he
30:16
Speaker 1: fights to appeal his prison sentence. This was a page
30:18
Speaker 1: six article. According to records from the Federal Bureau of Prisons,
30:23
Speaker 1: Ditty's release date has been moved up to April twenty fifth,
30:25
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. His previous release date had been listed
30:29
Speaker 1: as June fourth of twenty twenty eight. Oh, he just
30:31
Speaker 1: got like it got moved up a couple of months.
30:33
Speaker 1: The update of timeline follows Ditty's acceptance into a rehabilitation initiative.
30:38
Speaker 1: What is he rehabilitating from drugs and sex and baby oil?
30:43
Speaker 3: It's a baby his name all the time?
30:45
Speaker 2: Real? Oh yes, his newest name is.
30:47
Speaker 3: His new's name is two four six oh one?
30:50
Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Well?
30:51
Speaker 3: That was Jean Taljean from Labies.
30:54
Speaker 1: Oh all right, so I guess he's agreed to go
30:57
Speaker 1: to some type of rehabilitation initiative November, and then that
31:01
Speaker 1: participation is what got him a few months shaved off
31:05
Speaker 1: of his sentence. So the participation in this federal residential
31:10
Speaker 1: drug abuse program can sometimes result and reduce prison time.
31:14
Speaker 2: So that's what you.
31:14
Speaker 3: Can imagine when he got the news, like, hey, good news,
31:18
Speaker 3: your prison date moved up. It's like, oh yeah, what
31:21
Speaker 3: he's like packing his day. You know you got four
31:23
Speaker 3: weeks off. He's like, oh, I get out in four weeks. No,
31:26
Speaker 3: we just took four weeks off.
31:27
Speaker 2: We just shave four weeks off his projected release date.
31:30
Speaker 2: Has changed before.
31:31
Speaker 1: Shortly after he was sentenced, he saw his release date
31:33
Speaker 1: pushback from May eighth of twenty twenty eight to June
31:37
Speaker 1: fourth of twenty twenty eight. Reports at the time indicated
31:40
Speaker 1: that the adjustment came after officials disciplined him for consuming
31:44
Speaker 1: homemade alcohol.
31:45
Speaker 3: These guys is bouncing around.
31:47
Speaker 2: He's making homemade out. How do you make homemade alcohol?
31:50
Speaker 3: It's prison made alcohol, yeah, the limit at home?
31:52
Speaker 1: Right, it's prison made alcohol. You're right, it's jail made yeah.
31:55
Speaker 2: Right. What are they using? Just Michael person.
32:01
Speaker 3: I don't know drugs.
32:03
Speaker 2: I don't know.
32:03
Speaker 3: I don't know. See you ask me questions, I don't
32:05
Speaker 3: know about prison, I don't know. I ask you questions
32:07
Speaker 3: about Brittany and her drinking. You don't know.
32:09
Speaker 2: Well.
32:09
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like if Britney spears ever listens
32:12
Speaker 1: to this podcast, I would like to let her know
32:15
Speaker 1: that I feel like I could be her friend, and
32:18
Speaker 1: if she needs someone to support her and be there
32:22
Speaker 1: for her, I feel like I could be that person.
32:25
Speaker 1: So if she would like to reach out to me,
32:27
Speaker 1: I am open. I am here with open arms, and
32:29
Speaker 1: I am happy to be your friend.
32:32
Speaker 3: What about Diddy?
32:33
Speaker 1: No no, no Diddy? I have the Queen of Pop
32:35
Speaker 1: can call me. I feel like she needs like an
32:37
Speaker 1: Emily in her life. Like I'm a good loyal friend.
32:39
Speaker 1: I feel like I could point her in the right direction.
32:42
Speaker 1: You know, we could do like a good fix her.
32:44
Speaker 1: We could do like an Instagram intervention. I'd be like, no, girl, like,
32:47
Speaker 1: we don't pull your pants up. Nobody needs to see
32:50
Speaker 1: your thong. Let's let me take you to the salon.
32:53
Speaker 1: Let's get your hair extensions fixed.
32:55
Speaker 3: That doesn't rehabilitate people hair extensions.
32:58
Speaker 1: Well, that's a good start, though, a little some veneers,
33:02
Speaker 1: some good hair extensions, a makeover, and che's pull her
33:06
Speaker 1: pants up. It follows is like, so super low, I'm
33:10
Speaker 1: my girlfriend, pull your pants up. But there's a lot
33:12
Speaker 1: of people on Instagram because I get into this algorithm
33:14
Speaker 1: too that don't even think that's Brittany, that it's a clone.
33:16
Speaker 2: So we won't even go there right now.
33:18
Speaker 1: But that's another that's a whole nother that's a whole
33:20
Speaker 1: nother podcast. Anyway, back to Diddy. Soon afterwards, CBS News
33:25
Speaker 1: reported another infraction tied to a three way phone call,
33:29
Speaker 1: which is not permitted in federal prison.
33:31
Speaker 3: He can you do two way phone calls can three way.
33:34
Speaker 1: Combs reportedly said that he did not realize that third
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Speaker 1: party or three way calls are not authorized.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know, man.
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Speaker 3: His representation was drunk.
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Speaker 2: Gone. I didn't know, right, I wasn't thinking clearly.
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Speaker 1: The new release state comes as Combs continues to challenge
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Speaker 1: his four year sentence. His legal team filed and appeal
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Speaker 1: in December, seeking his immediate release and asking for either
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Speaker 1: a reversal of the conviction or a shorter sentence. Prosecutors
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Speaker 1: have pushed back on the appeal in February, urging that
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Speaker 1: the court reject the request. You know, he's got so
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Speaker 1: many civil suits against him. I mean, once he gets
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Speaker 1: out of jail's it's going to be like they're just
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Speaker 1: like coming at him like boomerangs. It's got like one
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Speaker 1: hundred different civil suits against him or something. So well,
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Speaker 1: I mean, good luck with all of that. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's do one more update. This is Brian Coburger. So
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Speaker 1: we're gonna head. We were in Nevada, then we went
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Speaker 1: to California with Britney Spears, and now we are taking
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Speaker 1: a trip.
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Speaker 2: Back to Idaho.
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Speaker 3: Well not back to Idle, over to Idaho.
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Speaker 1: Over to Idaho, so just recently there have been some
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Speaker 1: grizzly leaked photos that show blood soaked rooms of the
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Speaker 1: Idaho College students that were butchered by Brian Coberger. At
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Speaker 1: the end of January, thousands of previously unreleased crime scene
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Speaker 1: photographs connected to the Idaho murders briefly appeared online after
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Speaker 1: they were published by the Idaho State Police. The images,
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Speaker 1: nearly three thousand in total, were quickly removed from the
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Speaker 1: agency's website, but not before some outlets, including The Daily Mail,
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Speaker 1: obtained copies of these.
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Speaker 3: They were leaked, Where were they posted?
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Speaker 2: No, this was on the police website.
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Speaker 3: The posting a website, so they were on the police website.
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Speaker 1: Well, what I think happened was after he was convicted
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Speaker 1: and sentenced, probably the file opens up, and probably someone
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Speaker 1: just uploaded the entire file to the website without thinking
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Speaker 1: that there has to be something.
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Speaker 3: Without without screening, what should it shouldn't be posted?
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Speaker 2: Right?
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Speaker 1: The images show heavy bloodstaining across numerous surfaces throughout the bedrooms,
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Speaker 1: including doors, walls, furniture, mattresses, bedding, and floors. Additional graphic
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Speaker 1: photographs captured personal items belonging to the victims, including cell phones, laptops, shoes,
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Speaker 1: and clothing. These were left inside the ransacked bedrooms where
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Speaker 1: the four students were killed, and one photo what appeared
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Speaker 1: to be mirrored bloody fingerprints could be seen on a
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Speaker 1: white nightstand, while another image showed blood running.
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Speaker 2: Down a wall.
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Speaker 1: It is unclear why the new images were uploaded then
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Speaker 1: removed from the department's website. I assume the family probably
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Speaker 1: immediately called when they started seeing those photographs circulating out there, and.
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Speaker 2: Then that's why they were removed.
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Speaker 1: You know, again, I just have to say, I just
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Speaker 1: have Brian Coberger and the Idaho murders. Every once in
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Speaker 1: a while, I'll lay in bed at night and there
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Speaker 1: are like a couple things I think about.
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Speaker 2: Again.
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Speaker 1: I always go back to because now that these images
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Speaker 1: are out there and you can look at them and
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Speaker 1: you can see how the rooms are ransacked and how
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Speaker 1: much blood is everywhere, the fact that there were other
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Speaker 1: roommates in this house that did not hear anything is
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Speaker 1: mind boggling to me.
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Speaker 3: Oh, it only furthers that.
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Speaker 1: Just like because I thought, okay, well maybe they heard
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Speaker 1: nothing because he was in stealth mode and he just
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Speaker 1: quickly went to each victim and like and like overpowered
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Speaker 1: them very quickly and they didn't even know what hit them,
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Speaker 1: and that's why there wasn't any fighting back.
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Speaker 2: But then we learned like.
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Speaker 3: You just somehow, Yeah, but then you also worried about that.
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Speaker 3: We're curious about that gunshot, Like people in Vegas the
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Speaker 3: hotel couldn't hear the gun shot, And I think, I mean,
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Speaker 3: have you ever heard someone fire gun next to you
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Speaker 3: or murdered? I mean, I'm just saying like like maybe
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Speaker 3: you're assuming things are louder than they are, and I
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Speaker 3: don't have an answer. I'm just kind of playing Devil's
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Speaker 3: out here.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I just feel like if I was at home and
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Speaker 1: I had lots of roommates and there is a crime
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Speaker 1: scene in the whole upstairs above me, that it shows
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Speaker 1: a house being ransacked and four people were murdered and
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Speaker 1: there's blood everywhere, that I didn't hear any of.
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Speaker 3: That just seems well, I think it goes back I'm not.
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Speaker 1: Blaming that, no, I know, I know they had nothing
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Speaker 1: to do.
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Speaker 3: But it goes back to with we also think they
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Speaker 3: were like intoxicated, so they were probably passed out or
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Speaker 3: they're in a deep sleep. I mean, I lived in
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Speaker 3: a house with almost fourteen guys.
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Speaker 2: I think fourteen Where what the heck are you talking about?
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Speaker 3: In college?
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Speaker 1: Every time we do a podcast, we've been married for
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Speaker 1: seventeen years.
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Speaker 2: Let me just remind every one of that.
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Speaker 1: It's been seventeen years, and every time we record a podcast,
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Speaker 1: some new bit of information about this man coming.
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Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you got to get to know me a
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Speaker 3: little bit better.
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Speaker 2: I guess. So I've never heard fourteen other guys.
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Speaker 3: There was like seven up let's see one, two, three, four, five,
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Speaker 3: six of us upstairs, and then there was about seven downstairs.
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Speaker 3: So whatever, thirteen or something like that. That's crazy. And
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Speaker 3: I don't remember every once waking up in the middle
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Speaker 3: of the night because they were allowed, and they're I'm
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Speaker 3: sure they were allowed from time to time. Really, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I just go in my room, close the door and
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Speaker 3: go sleep. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I well, no, but I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I know. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm really
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Speaker 3: just saying, like, now I think about it, Yeah, Like,
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Speaker 3: I don't know, you just go to sleep, and especially
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Speaker 3: if you're in toxic you just pass out and that's it.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Then.
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Speaker 1: My other point is after the autopsy reports came out.
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Speaker 2: We did know that Xanna threw a cute like she was.
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Speaker 1: She fought fought, yeah, fought him hard, fought him, and
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Speaker 1: she we have to give this girl credit for her
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Speaker 1: bravery and just fighting back as hard as possible, because
39:11
Speaker 1: I think they believe that that was the reason the
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Speaker 1: knife sheath was left behind, right because of the struggle
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Speaker 1: with him, and that is how they found him, because
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Speaker 1: of the DNA that was left on that little tiny
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Speaker 1: button on the knife sheet.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so all her fighting didn't go to waste, it
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Speaker 3: actually solved the crime.
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Speaker 1: And then my last point is, and this still bugs
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Speaker 1: me to this day. Idaho has the death penalty, and
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Speaker 1: the fact that the prosecution allowed him to plead out
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Speaker 1: and take life without parole is.
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Speaker 3: Just well, didn't we talk about the death penalty last time?
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Speaker 3: How maybe like Idaho didn't really prosecute or press They
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Speaker 3: didn't pursue the death penalty in many cases ever, Like
39:48
Speaker 3: it's not really a death penalty state even though it's legal, right,
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Speaker 3: So maybe the prosecutors aren't really like gung ho about it.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it's not really enforced very much so they all know,
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Speaker 3: like it's not really a likelihood, so they just plea,
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Speaker 3: they come to some plea agreement.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just know that if anyone deserves.
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Speaker 3: The people to deserve it and he's one of.
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Speaker 1: Them, he's one of them, that's for sure. So we
40:12
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40:16
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