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- 0:01Today we're going to talk about something really important.
- 0:04I think we're going to talk about 10 myths that surround
- 0:09trauma, specifically relational trauma, because that's really
- 0:12the focus of this podcast, relational or attachment trauma.
- 0:16But we're going to try to debunk 10 different myths that I see
- 0:21couples as well as individuals that I work with.
- 0:24They tend to hold those these myths in place often times.
- 0:28And I think what happens is it really limits their ability to
- 0:32grow and to create some of that post traumatic growth that we
- 0:37really want and need when we come either to therapy or just
- 0:41in our life in general. So we're going to dispel 10 miss
- 0:46by the end of this episode. I think 1 is you're going to be
- 0:49able to find at least one or two, or maybe you have a little
- 0:53bit of an aha moment where you go, Oh yeah, I did think that
- 0:57about it. But I guess that maybe I need to
- 0:59shift my thinking a little bit. So hopefully by the end of this
- 1:02podcast, you're going to be able to have a little bit more self
- 1:06compassion as it relates to your ideas of trauma in you or in
- 1:12your relationship. The second thing I hope that it
- 1:15does is that it shows you that growth is really possible when
- 1:18we let go of some of these beliefs, these unhelpful beliefs
- 1:24around our trauma as well. Welcome to trauma free
- 1:28relationship. I'm Tom Philp, your host.
- 1:31I've been working with couples for decades who struggle with
- 1:35relational trauma to help them regain trust in themselves and
- 1:38others so that they can experience a safe and secure
- 1:42relationship. Let's get started.
- 1:51OK, as I said at the opening, what we're going to do today is
- 1:53we're going to look at 10 myths that surround relational trauma.
- 1:59Now, the very first one I want us to talk about is relational
- 2:03trauma only happens in childhood.
- 2:06That's just simply not true. Childhood is not the only.
- 2:11It can happen in childhood, of course, but it's not the only
- 2:13place where where we might experience trauma.
- 2:18So for an example, many couples that I've worked with, they come
- 2:22in and one of them might have stepped outside of the
- 2:25relationship and had either an emotional or a physical affair.
- 2:30And in those moments, it is possible that that created
- 2:34trauma in the other partner. Their reaction to that, the way
- 2:37they're grappling and trying to understand that the reasons
- 2:42behind their partner doing that can be very traumatizing.
- 2:46It can look a little bit like PTSD, or it can look a little
- 2:50bit like just just a deep wound and trauma.
- 2:54And So what happens is they begin to really doubt the the
- 3:00expectations that their world was built around.
- 3:03So they had this idea that my world looked a certain way.
- 3:07And when my partner did this to me, now I have to re evaluate
- 3:11all of that. And so that can be very
- 3:14traumatizing when they feel like the world has completely
- 3:17exploded. All of the assumptions they held
- 3:20about the relationship themselves and the life that
- 3:23they were building with their partner begin to dissipate.
- 3:27So one of the things that we want to dispel is that somehow
- 3:31trauma only happens in childhood.
- 3:33Now, I think another thing that's really important is that
- 3:38I tend to see a lot where people do have childhood trauma and
- 3:44then what happens is they also have an event that traumatizes
- 3:49them in adulthood as well. And this is important because
- 3:52what this does is it actually I can see some similarities
- 3:56between the two. So for example, you might have
- 4:00some abandonment trauma in your childhood where your parents
- 4:04were very neglectful and really abandoned you, especially at
- 4:07critical moments. And so the way you've learned to
- 4:10adapt to that is you've learned to not depend on others.
- 4:16And so now you you take that adaptations and you you put it
- 4:21into an adult context with a partner.
- 4:24And all of a sudden what happens is you never rely on your
- 4:27partner. Your partner feels rejected much
- 4:29of the time. And So what happens is they end
- 4:32up abandoning you at some point and reopening that trauma wound.
- 4:37So I certainly see a lot of situations very much like that
- 4:41where there might be some child childhood trauma.
- 4:44It doesn't have to be exclusive to childhood, but it can also
- 4:47link in terms of adult trauma that might get triggered or re
- 4:52traumatized as well in our adult relationships.
- 4:56So that's number one, I think is that trauma only happens in our
- 5:01childhood. We're going to debunk that myth.
- 5:03It's just simply not true. The second one I want to talk
- 5:07about is that if you don't remember it clearly will It must
- 5:11not have happened or it must not have affected you.
- 5:15And that's really important because one of the things that
- 5:18we know about trauma is that often times the way it is pieced
- 5:22together is in our memory is not necessarily as a coherent story.
- 5:29And so our memories, just because we don't have a clear
- 5:33picture of the trauma, it might just come back in pieces.
- 5:38We think, oh, well, maybe it didn't impact me that deeply, or
- 5:41maybe it was wasn't as bad as I think it was.
- 5:44And that's just simply not the truth.
- 5:47You can be impacted deeply by trauma but not be able to have a
- 5:53clear picture or be able to tell a clear story.
- 5:57So for example, one of the researchers in the early
- 6:02attachment theory when it was being formulated is that we
- 6:06understood that often times people that were anxiously
- 6:10attached or more avoidantly attached tended to have an
- 6:15incomplete story around their childhood.
- 6:18And this is directly related to their particular insecure
- 6:21attachment styles. And so again, when we have
- 6:25trauma, it doesn't necessarily mean that we can tell a clear
- 6:29and coherent story about what happened to us.
- 6:33And as a result, sometimes we'll, we'll create this belief
- 6:36that, oh, well, maybe it really wasn't that bad.
- 6:39Maybe maybe it really didn't affect me that that much.
- 6:42And that's just simply not true. It can have a deep impact on
- 6:46you, especially because you can't tell a clear story or
- 6:51picture around what happened. So we want to dispel that truth
- 6:55for sure, or that myths for sure, That somehow trauma, if
- 6:59it's not recalled with clarity, means it didn't impact you as
- 7:03much, much. Nope.
- 7:05We're going to check that one off.
- 7:06That's not necessarily true. Another one is that relational
- 7:11trauma isn't real trauma. I'm going to repeat that one
- 7:15because that's really important. Relational trauma somehow isn't
- 7:19real trauma. The people in your life, if they
- 7:23rejected you, abandoned you, that's that's somehow not real
- 7:27trauma. It's not like trauma from a car
- 7:30accident or trauma from that was sustained in combat like so many
- 7:35of our brave men and women that go out to defend us, that
- 7:38somehow that's real trauma. And that's just simply not true
- 7:42as well. There's something called big T
- 7:44trauma and little T trauma. Big T trauma is trauma that
- 7:49usually is a one time trauma, meaning like a car accident or
- 7:53something that was sustained in a, a gunfight in, in during,
- 7:59during a war. That can certainly create
- 8:02trauma. And we can certainly understand
- 8:03and wrap our heads around, Oh yeah, that feels like trauma.
- 8:06But that doesn't mean that what you experienced is any less
- 8:10traumatic. The the hundreds of little times
- 8:15that your parents weren't there for you or when you were crying
- 8:19and needed them, they rejected you or shamed you or made you
- 8:23feel bad for what you felt in those moments.
- 8:27Or that moment when you turn to your spouse because you were so
- 8:31scared of, of consequences of something that was going to
- 8:33happen in your life and your spouse simply blew it off,
- 8:38downplayed it, negated that fear.
- 8:41That is no less traumatic than than Big T trauma is.
- 8:46So one of the myths that we really want to dispel is that
- 8:49somehow trauma only comes through something that's really
- 8:54dramatic. And that's just not the case.
- 8:57Trauma doesn't have to be dramatic.
- 9:00Trauma can be subtle. It can almost be imperceptible
- 9:03at times and it's not always just what happens to us, but
- 9:08it's how we make sense of what happened to us and the lack of
- 9:13not having anybody there to help us work through it and, and, and
- 9:20be able to tell a coherent story about what happened.
- 9:26To be able to process that in a way that we can sort of
- 9:30metabolize it and put it into the narrative of our life
- 9:35together. And so it's really important to
- 9:37understand that that relational trauma, small T trauma is very
- 9:42much as as traumatic as any big T trauma is too.
- 9:46It just looks different. It doesn't necessarily look the
- 9:49same, but it's no less impactful.
- 9:53OK, let's move on to #4 You just need to find the right partner
- 9:59and everything will heal. Wow, that's a big one.
- 10:04And that's a big one because I see that a lot when couples come
- 10:07in and I ask them about the early part of their relationship
- 10:11and they both kind of smile and they tell me a story about how
- 10:14they got together. And it's usually very sweet.
- 10:16And, and there's usually, you know, softness, openness,
- 10:20vulnerability with one another. And somehow things begin to
- 10:25turn. And so now often times what
- 10:28people believe that is, well, maybe they just weren't the
- 10:31right one for me. And that's really not, that's a
- 10:34myth. That's just not true.
- 10:36I, I, I'm somebody that doesn't believe that there is like one
- 10:41person for everybody. I, I believe there are people
- 10:45that, that have a chemistry that sometimes from the very moment
- 10:48you meet somebody, you might feel like this is the person for
- 10:52you. And so I, I understand all that,
- 10:54but I, I disagree with the ideas that somehow there's one person
- 10:59and only one person for you. And, and I think relationships
- 11:03take work and they take a lot of hard work at times.
- 11:07And so it's never a matter of just relying on, oh, well, this
- 11:10is just fate. We're meant to be together.
- 11:13And if it doesn't work out, then I guess I just had that wrong in
- 11:16the beginning. So understanding that that
- 11:19you're never going to find that one right partner that's going
- 11:23to be able to just heal and take away all your trauma, especially
- 11:27if you're listening to this and you're single and you are
- 11:31looking for somebody to help you heal and grow and to be able to
- 11:36truly see and connect with you. Nothing's wrong with wanting
- 11:40that. Nothing at all is wrong with one
- 11:42wanting that. However, don't put all your eggs
- 11:46in one basket and and believe the myth that somehow if I just
- 11:50find that right person, then they're going to be able to take
- 11:54away or heal all of my trauma because chances are they're not.
- 11:59Chances are you're going to be attracted to some of their
- 12:02qualities that are going to be really important and powerful
- 12:05for you, but there's also qualities that they're going to
- 12:08have that might trigger your trauma as well.
- 12:11And so this one person is not going to be the the healing
- 12:16agent in your life that just fixes everything for you.
- 12:20So I think that's certainly a myth we want to dispel is that
- 12:24not one person, no matter how wonderful they might be, is
- 12:27going to be able to heal all of our trauma.
- 12:31And let me just say too, because I think this is important there,
- 12:34there's an important role that person plays in your life, an
- 12:39important role in being able to help you be less triggered, be
- 12:44able to help you and give you a different experience of what
- 12:48created that trauma in the 1st place.
- 12:50I don't mean to say that they have no role in that.
- 12:53I just mean to say that you have a huge responsibility in that
- 12:58yourself, in being able to show up for yourself and being able
- 13:02to be your own best friend, your own trusted resource, your own
- 13:07soothing resource so that you don't put all of that on your
- 13:11partner as well. We are made for relationships.
- 13:14I very much believe that. That's why I've spent so much of
- 13:17my career working with relational trauma and working
- 13:21with individuals as well as couples to be able to try to
- 13:26help them heal in that journey. But we also have a
- 13:29responsibility to do our own work as well.
- 13:32So we don't want to put off all of our healing on to our
- 13:36partner. OK #5 we're making our way
- 13:40through the list here. Relational trauma makes you
- 13:43broken forever. No, not true.
- 13:47You are not broken forever if you have relational trauma.
- 13:51The truth of the matter is you can get help and even help you
- 13:56can do yourself. It doesn't mean that you have to
- 13:59always go to therapy, but there are resources out there, this
- 14:03podcast being one, and you can begin to do the work and begin
- 14:08to start that journey of healing yourself.
- 14:12And so if you have relational trauma, you are not broken
- 14:16forever there. There is healing available to
- 14:20you and for you in a lot of different ways.
- 14:23One of them might include therapy for sure, but others
- 14:27might include finding a relationship that doesn't
- 14:30constantly retraumatize you in addition to the work you're
- 14:34doing yourself and being able to being able to look at that from
- 14:40a dual standpoint. I've got a partner that's not
- 14:44triggering me in the same way, and I'm doing the work to show
- 14:48up for myself, to heal the inner child, to confront the aggressor
- 14:52that caused my trauma in the 1st place.
- 14:55And that healing work allows you to begin that healing journey
- 15:00for sure. OK, number six, we're making our
- 15:04way through this. Number six, time heals all
- 15:08wounds. Well, yes and no.
- 15:12With trauma, time can help, but it doesn't heal all wounds.
- 15:18You have to actually do the healing work in order to be
- 15:22healed from trauma. Trauma, as I've mentioned so
- 15:26many times, trauma actually shows up in her body.
- 15:30And one of the most famous books written on trauma is called The
- 15:35Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Vanderkolk.
- 15:39And it's a brilliant book, one of the the quote UN quote,
- 15:42Bibles of our field, if you will.
- 15:44And what he realized in the early stages of his research is
- 15:48that trauma stays locked in our body, and our body learns how to
- 15:54adapt to that trauma. And it creates sometimes a split
- 15:59inside of us. And part of us is split off, and
- 16:03part of us can be sort of disassociated.
- 16:07That holds that pain of the trauma, that holds the wound.
- 16:11And another part of us holds the protectiveness of showing up
- 16:15every day, all day long, and making sure that we're never
- 16:19going to be traumatized again. And so we have these sort of
- 16:25parts inside of us that sometimes can conflict with
- 16:28themselves. And one part is trying to keep
- 16:31us safe at all cost. The other part is trying to find
- 16:35ways to heal and look for a different outcome than what
- 16:39actually caused the trauma in the first place.
- 16:43And so that the work that needs to be done isn't just a matter
- 16:47of time. Now, with that said, I do
- 16:49believe that that time can help, especially around say for
- 16:54example, triggers. When I see somebody that gets
- 16:57triggered by their, you know, with their trauma, often times
- 17:02as we begin the work, what happens is the, the, the
- 17:06triggers become less often, they become less painful when they
- 17:12too get triggered. And when they are triggered,
- 17:14it's of less duration. So all those three elements can
- 17:19change with time, but it doesn't mean that we'll, I'll never be
- 17:23triggered again or my trauma is just simply gone.
- 17:27What usually happens is you're you've adapted to the trauma
- 17:33that you have, and that adaptation looks like a
- 17:36protectiveness that is now driving the bus sometimes.
- 17:40So the little ways that you begin to protect yourself
- 17:44against having those traumas triggered is beginning to become
- 17:48a larger part inside you. And so the time will not heal
- 17:52that. Work has to actually be able to
- 17:55heal that. OK #7 Relational trauma only
- 18:00effects romantic relationships. Not true.
- 18:04There's an old saying all trauma is relational trauma.
- 18:08What do you get into a car crash?
- 18:10Big T trauma that I referenced earlier, right?
- 18:13Something like that. Or whether you actually
- 18:17experience small T trauma. So you've had somebody in your
- 18:22life that that consistently is gaslighting you in your
- 18:26relationships, making you question your own worth, your
- 18:30own value, what is real and not real that is just as real as big
- 18:34T trauma. Both can absolutely affect your
- 18:37relationship. So all trauma is relational
- 18:41trauma because all trauma affects your relationship, but
- 18:45it doesn't mean that it only has to affect your relationship.
- 18:48Trauma can show up in our friendships, trauma can show up
- 18:52with our parents, trauma can show up at work, in our jobs.
- 18:56And so trauma can be really pervasive.
- 18:59And it doesn't just have to affect your romantic
- 19:03relationships, it can affect your your friendships as well.
- 19:08For example, I see people that have learned because they have
- 19:12past trauma that if they have a disagreement with a friend, then
- 19:16what they do is they just cut that friend off.
- 19:19They have no way of learning how to repair those friendships and
- 19:23how to repair that rupture that happened with that friend.
- 19:27So as a result, the only thing they know to do is just to cut
- 19:31off that friendship. And so they skip on down the
- 19:34road until they make another friend and then something
- 19:36happens with that friendship and then they cut that one off as
- 19:40well. So often times their trauma is
- 19:44showing up in in their defensive, protective way and
- 19:48it's actually hurting their friendships.
- 19:50It's not just about their romantic relationships.
- 19:55OK #8 if you struggle with trust, it means you're paranoid
- 20:00or too sensitive and simply not true.
- 20:04You can struggle with trust and not be paranoid.
- 20:09You can struggle with trust and not be too sensitive.
- 20:12Of course you can be sensitive and you can border on paranoia.
- 20:17Sometimes that can. Certainly be a part of it, but
- 20:20that doesn't have to be all of it by any stretch of the
- 20:23imagination. So being able to understand and
- 20:27tease apart, is this my trauma coming up for me right now?
- 20:31Or is this something that's actually happening in the
- 20:34relationship? Is this something that that I
- 20:37need to pay more attention to? Is this my partner?
- 20:40Is this some of their stuff coming up, some of their baggage
- 20:43that's being dumped on me right now?
- 20:45Or am I perceiving this a certain way?
- 20:48And certainly trust or the lack of trust in self and others is
- 20:54sort of a hallmark of trauma because what it does is, is is
- 20:59complex trauma, relational trauma.
- 21:01It often erodes the sense of trust in ourselves and others.
- 21:05And so it creates this negative self perception we have and hold
- 21:11of ourselves. And so being able to understand
- 21:15how much of that is my stuff coming up, how much of that is
- 21:19my partner stuff coming up and being able to tease those those
- 21:23lines apart can really help you begin to understand how much of
- 21:28that is, is my trauma versus something that's in the
- 21:31relationship versus something of my partner.
- 21:35I just had a, a individual that wrote me back on a, a YouTube
- 21:43post that I had on this very thing.
- 21:45Is this my trauma or is it the relationship?
- 21:47I just released a video of that not too long ago.
- 21:51And, and this individual, I don't know if it was a male or
- 21:54female, but was basically saying, you know, I used to
- 21:56think it was my trauma. Then I used to think it was just
- 21:59the other person in the relationship.
- 22:01Now I begin to understand that it's a little bit of both.
- 22:04And I wrote her back and I said absolutely, that's such an
- 22:07important insight that you now have of yourself is how do I
- 22:12determine what's happening here? And being able to tease apart
- 22:16whether this is my partner in the relationship or whether this
- 22:19is something with me and being able to take ownership, if it's
- 22:23something that's coming up from me, my own trauma.
- 22:26But being able to understand that piece and how they sort of
- 22:30mesh together is really important.
- 22:33But understanding that if you struggle with trust, it means
- 22:37you're paranoid or too sensitive.
- 22:39We want to debunk that one because it doesn't mean you're
- 22:42always paranoid and it doesn't mean you're always too
- 22:44sensitive. It may mean that there's
- 22:47something going on outside of yourself that's bringing up
- 22:50those feelings for you as well. OK, number nine, people with
- 22:55attachment trauma can't even form secure relationships.
- 23:00Absolutely untrue. Absolutely untrue.
- 23:04We know that people can go from an insecure attachment style to
- 23:10a secure style of attachment. It's called earned secure
- 23:15attachment. Look that up.
- 23:16There's a lot of great information on it out there.
- 23:19And what happens is that when you're in a relationship with
- 23:23somebody that is a secure attachment style and you've been
- 23:27in the relationship long enough with them that you begin then to
- 23:31adopt your own secure styles of attachment.
- 23:35And this is one thing that's really important that I tell a
- 23:38lot of my couples is that, look, you've been with this person
- 23:411015 years. Let's not, let's not as skew or
- 23:45downplay the amount of growth you've already had in this
- 23:48relationship. I know you're here.
- 23:50I know you're trying to discuss ongoing issues that we need to
- 23:54deal with, but if you've had childhood trauma or trauma from
- 23:58say a first marriage, something like that, and you've been with
- 24:01this person 5-10 years, you've already had so much growth in
- 24:06yourself by just being with this individual.
- 24:10And so it is very possible to go from an insecure attachment
- 24:14style to a secure style of attachment by just being in a
- 24:19relationshipwith with somebody that has more of a secure style
- 24:23of attachment. OK, the last 1 #10 Healing means
- 24:28cutting ties with everyone who hurt you.
- 24:32And absolutely not boy, we sure hope that's not the case.
- 24:36Because what we don't want to do is we don't want to cut people
- 24:39out of our lives. Part of the healing journey of
- 24:43relational trauma is learning how to repair ruptures in
- 24:47relationships. When we have disagreements with
- 24:50our friends, when we certainly have disagreements with our
- 24:53spouse, we have to learn how do we come back and get back to a
- 24:57place where we can repair those relationships and get back to a
- 25:02place where we feel connected and OK, we kind of hit the reset
- 25:06button. OK, So we were able to talk that
- 25:09through. We were able to work that out.
- 25:11That's great. We're in a better place now and
- 25:13when we can do that, that is such a tremendous way for us to
- 25:18grow through our trauma and and heal our trauma because we now
- 25:24and maybe for some, for the first time in their lives, they
- 25:27now understand how they can actually repair relationships.
- 25:32That might be a relationship they have with their mother or
- 25:34their father. Does the original source of some
- 25:36of their trauma or family dynamics or their siblings.
- 25:40It might be going back and forgiving a previous spouse that
- 25:45wronged you in some way and you are now able to Co parent with
- 25:49them better and be in a better place because you've worked
- 25:52through that. So that rupture repair process
- 25:55is something that I talk a lot about on this podcast because it
- 26:00is such a important stepping stone in how we learn to work
- 26:05through and deal with our trauma.
- 26:08So having relational trauma means we cut out people who hurt
- 26:13us from the past. That doesn't mean that now.
- 26:17I will say sometimes what it might mean is that we do set
- 26:21firm boundaries with somebody that is not able to take
- 26:25ownership or responsibility for their role in that traumatic
- 26:28environment. So I've certainly had lots of of
- 26:32patients that come and they talk about how they've cut off a
- 26:36mother or a father or a sibling because they're still toxic for
- 26:40them. And if that's the case, that can
- 26:42be a very appropriate boundary to have for a season of life,
- 26:47for a time for you to not try to repair that relationship.
- 26:52And that is certainly OK as well.
- 26:56So we don't want to cut people out just because we've had
- 27:00trauma or they've been the source or a trigger of our
- 27:03trauma. We want to learn how to be able
- 27:05to repair those relationships, but we also need to be able to
- 27:11understand that they have a responsibility in that role as
- 27:14well. They have a role in how we
- 27:18repair, and if they refuse to take responsibility, if they
- 27:21refuse to be able to accept the things that they did that were
- 27:26hurtful and harmful, then it's really difficult sometimes for
- 27:30us to be able to repair that. Sometimes the best we can hope
- 27:34for is that we just simply have to forgive and we have to set
- 27:39that relationship on the shelf for a season or a time and be
- 27:42able to move on to healthier relationships in our lives.
- 27:47OK, so that's the list of all 10.
- 27:49I hope that you were able to see a few of these myths that you
- 27:53might have held yourself and hopefully you're now being a
- 27:57little bit challenged in some way to be able to think
- 28:00differently and work through what does it look like for me
- 28:04not to be able to believe in the trauma and the way it looks in
- 28:08my life and my relationship or shows up the way it does and,
- 28:12and the myth that I might have held around that.
- 28:15All right, thank you so much for watching, so much for listening.
- 28:18I really appreciate it. My name is Tom Phil, and I'm
- 28:22here to remind you to stay grounded, clear, and connect.