Latest / Amplify Your Marketing Message with Christine Campbell Rapin / 169 - Build Accountability that Actually Works
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- 0:04If you are a B2B service based business owner and you are
- 0:07looking to gain more clients, create more impact and more
- 0:10revenue in your business, TuneIn to amplify your marketing
- 0:14message with Christine Campbell Rappin.
- 0:16Every week we're going to take you through how to build an
- 0:18audience of buyers, mastering your marketing message and
- 0:21making offers that convert consistently.
- 0:24See you all on the inside. It is really important that we
- 0:36don't make the hard things unnecessarily hard in our
- 0:41business and the easy things hard as well.
- 0:44I'm super excited to welcome our guest today who's going to give
- 0:47us a quick orientation to actually getting stuff done.
- 0:52Not just once, not just every blue Moon, not just when Mercury
- 0:55is not in retrograde, but all the time.
- 0:58Today we're talking about accountability and doing
- 1:00accountability well so that you actually create consistent
- 1:04results. Please give a very warm welcome
- 1:06to our guest today. Robin J Edmonton is here in the
- 1:10House. Welcome, welcome, welcome.
- 1:13Hello and thank you for having me.
- 1:15It's such a pleasure to be here. I'm excited to have this
- 1:18conversation because you and I were chatting a couple weeks ago
- 1:21and something you said really lingered with me, which is I'm
- 1:26much too smart to get in my own way, and yet I did for a really
- 1:29long time. So let's talk about the
- 1:32productivity paradox. Why is it so hard to actually
- 1:36follow through and get something done?
- 1:40Well, OK. Well, there's two different
- 1:41answers into that to that question.
- 1:44The first one is, I think I'll start with the second one first
- 1:47because it really is the critical point.
- 1:49We are biologically hardwired to procrastinate.
- 1:54I do know that the people there are people who don't
- 1:56procrastinate very much, if at all.
- 1:59And for many people, it if they do procrastinate, it's not a
- 2:02significant problem in their lives.
- 2:04Sometimes that's an environmental situation.
- 2:07They just can't procrastinate in the in the lives that they live,
- 2:10the busy lives that they live. There's no space for it.
- 2:13But I'm talking about someone like me who works from home and
- 2:16procrastination is an option. And I realized I had a like a
- 2:21face palm moment about five years ago where I realized, Oh,
- 2:25yeah, I do it a lot because I'd always treated procrastination
- 2:30very much like I thought of as a common cold.
- 2:32Oh, you know, it'll cut. You know, before the age of
- 2:34COVID, bringing every sniffle was something that could be
- 2:37something very serious indeed. Most of us just work through
- 2:40colds and just think, oh, you know, whatever.
- 2:42I'll, I'll, I'll get over it. I'll just carry on.
- 2:45And I did the same with procrastination.
- 2:47I'm procrastinating today. Oht don't worry, I'll do it
- 2:50tomorrow. The classic procrastinators
- 2:52mantra. Not very smart, you might think.
- 2:56And actually I was bragging about being smart when I was
- 3:00having a coffee with my brother in a coffee shop in 2019.
- 3:04And I just got my degree. And I was really pleased myself
- 3:07because I had not been allowed or able to finish my education
- 3:10when I was a young man. And I have now succeeded in
- 3:14doing it working from home. And I was so pleased with
- 3:16myself. And my brother was so bored and
- 3:19could not care less really. Well, he did a bit, but he was
- 3:22failing. I don't really care.
- 3:24So I thought, OK, I know I'll, I'll, I'll Chevy him up.
- 3:27I'll, I'll tell him, oh, you know, trust me to take 10 years
- 3:30to do something in that I should have done in six, which is true.
- 3:33It should have done the degree in six years.
- 3:35It took me 10 minutes. Went oht Yeah.
- 3:37Why was that? And I said, oh, you know,
- 3:39procrastination. And I laughed and I changed the
- 3:41subject and I thought on the way home I was thinking, you know
- 3:45what, that really isn't that smart.
- 3:48You know, I have got a degree now.
- 3:50But hang on, you're a trained life coach.
- 3:52I mean, I trained in 2001 under the tutelage of Tony Robbins and
- 3:56his team and I and, and I was very, and it was brilliant
- 4:00training and I, and it meant that I, when I came back to
- 4:02England, I was able to set myself up in business as a life
- 4:05coach. And on the way home, I was like,
- 4:08how dare you? How dare you procrastinate,
- 4:10Robin? How very dare you.
- 4:11That's just not something that you should be doing.
- 4:14Your clients never procrastinated and never let
- 4:17them. And I thought, OK, so all right,
- 4:20what's the solution to procrastination?
- 4:22Actually, I thought two other things on the way home.
- 4:25The first thing I thought was where else in my life does this
- 4:27show up? And I realised absolutely
- 4:29everywhere. And the second question was how
- 4:31much does it cost me? And I was like, really, really
- 4:36angry by the time I got home. Angry with myself and also very,
- 4:41very upset. I was almost in tears when I
- 4:44thought about all the things that had cost me.
- 4:46Again, not very smart. So I called my brother and said
- 4:51I'll just remind me, you know, I had a mental pen and paper
- 4:53there. What was the cure for
- 4:54procrastination again? I know I did 100 days or so with
- 4:57Tony Robbins and all sorts of his things that he did.
- 5:00And I know that I've read loads of books.
- 5:02I've got my Sudoku collection, which are all the books I've
- 5:05bought about personal growth that I've put on my bookshelf,
- 5:08my shelf development shelf, as I call it.
- 5:10Never really read all of them properly, but I can't quite put
- 5:14my finger on it. What is it?
- 5:15What's the cure? And he was a mental health
- 5:18professional at one time in his life and he for many years.
- 5:21And then he said, I don't really know.
- 5:24I thought, well, you don't know and I don't know what the hecks
- 5:26going on. So then the gift that cable kept
- 5:29on giving, kept giving. And that was COVID happened.
- 5:32And I mean that in an ironic sense, not in a happy sense, but
- 5:36it caused all the lockdowns and it meant I had even more time on
- 5:39my hands. And then I started studying and
- 5:41researching the copious amounts of research that have been done
- 5:44into procrastination, productivity.
- 5:46Hundreds and hundreds of papers have been written on it.
- 5:48Didn't read all the papers. I went to the summaries and but
- 5:51I knew how to do it cause I got a degree, right?
- 5:53I'm smart. And the critical thing that I
- 5:56discovered coming full circle back to what I was saying was
- 5:59it's biological. It's part of our survival
- 6:02mechanism. It's in here.
- 6:04Now, if you don't struggle with procrastination, as I say, it's
- 6:06probably because environmentally you don't have the opportunity
- 6:09or you're one of those few very lucky people that have developed
- 6:13skill sets from a very early age where it's just not an issue for
- 6:17you. Fantastic.
- 6:18I love that. And, and every time someone
- 6:20tells me they're one of those people, I always go cool, tell
- 6:22me more because I try and pick their brains, you know?
- 6:25Yeah, well, I think there's there's there's permission and
- 6:29it's wired that way. And I2 words that really struck
- 6:33me is I allowed it and I had created this space for it.
- 6:38So we have to manage the inner game because we are the ones
- 6:43making our choices, right? We we have influence for sure
- 6:47from the outside, but we're making our inner choices.
- 6:48So you say that there's actually some chemical allies that we can
- 6:53use to help us go against the biology, but tap into still
- 6:58natural focus. What does that really mean?
- 7:01Well, we would never go against biology, that would be a foolish
- 7:04thing to do. What we need to do is understand
- 7:07biology and I don't, I'll be honest with you, why last exam
- 7:13at school, which was the last time I took any kind of science
- 7:16exam. My degree is in arts and
- 7:18humanities. I did psychology.
- 7:20I did a philosophy and I did history.
- 7:25No sciences in there. Or ironically, because my book
- 7:29is got an ology in it, it's get results ology.
- 7:32There's a reason for that. But I don't want to digress.
- 7:35I'll stick to the point that you've asked me to make.
- 7:38So. Yeah, so we don't go against it.
- 7:42But what I discovered was, oh, I was saying about my final, my
- 7:45very last exam I did at school in science, the very last time I
- 7:49did any kind of science, I got 9% in biology.
- 7:53I was furious, but not for the reason you might think.
- 7:56I actually spoke to the teacher that marked the exam afterwards
- 7:59and I said, what do you mean I've got 9%?
- 8:01How dare you? Why did I get 9%?
- 8:02He said you didn't answer any of the questions.
- 8:04I said I know that I don't know the answer to any of the
- 8:07questions. It goes in this ear and out the
- 8:09other. It's not that I'm not willing,
- 8:10it's just that I can't retain the information.
- 8:12Science and me are not good mates.
- 8:15And he said no, but you spelt your name right, so I felt sorry
- 8:17for you. Ohk, OK, fair enough.
- 8:19So I'm not a scientist, right? But I do know how to read
- 8:23science, just at the surface level.
- 8:26And when I was looking at the research, it was all neurology
- 8:30and psychology and biology. It's all in there.
- 8:32And I thought, OK, well, I'm not going to go deep into the
- 8:35science papers because clearly I won't understand them.
- 8:38But I am going to look at the conclusions.
- 8:40I am going to look what the scientists have said.
- 8:42And then I'm going to translate it into English.
- 8:45It's British English. I'm sorry about that.
- 8:47You know, we've got more words than the Americans.
- 8:49What can I say? I'll help translate the Canadian
- 8:52in between. That's right.
- 8:54Absolutely. So, yeah.
- 8:56But it's, I translated it. Basically, I said OK.
- 9:01And what I discovered was was that we do have natural allies.
- 9:04The people who don't procrastinate naturally tap into
- 9:08these natural allies. And I will tell you, and it took
- 9:11me about a year to learn 3 words.
- 9:15As in, I don't need to. Oh, where are they?
- 9:17Look them up. I think because my brain just
- 9:20doesn't return. Retain them.
- 9:21They are dopamine, acetylcholine and noradrenaline.
- 9:27And you need all, all three of those neurotransmitters present
- 9:32in your brain when you are being in your most productive state,
- 9:35when you hit peak performance, whatever you want to call it,
- 9:38right? And that's the last time I'm
- 9:41going to mention those words, although I will say most people
- 9:43have probably heard of some of those.
- 9:45We've all heard of dopamine, dopamine HIT, dopamine junkies,
- 9:48all of that kind of thing. So I thought, well, I need to
- 9:52translate these not into what they're called, but what do they
- 9:54do? And I came up with the
- 9:57productivity trifecta. You need your IT like your inner
- 10:01productivity team, and that is dopamine is the conductor, which
- 10:07is like the conductor of an orchestra.
- 10:09And the conductor resides in the prefrontal cortex of your brain.
- 10:13And that is where there is an absolute cacophony of noises
- 10:18that are all the disparate, disparate parts of your life and
- 10:21your organized and the things that you need to organize.
- 10:24And the conductor comes in and he brings them all together,
- 10:27gives them the music, brings them all together, and turns the
- 10:30cacophony of sound into the music of your life.
- 10:33And he does it or she does it because they are able to think
- 10:36rationally and calmly and intelligently and apply a very
- 10:41well thought out strategies to the things you need to do with
- 10:44your life. That's the conductor.
- 10:46But then you also need the scholar.
- 10:48Now the scholars, an interesting one because I did, because I did
- 10:52mention it's it that is the acetylcholine.
- 10:56Acetylcholine is present in us when we are children.
- 10:59Now maybe you know, some children.
- 11:01I know, maybe you're even well, once a child, I, I think I was,
- 11:04it's such a long time ago. I have a vague memory of being a
- 11:07child. Children are brilliant at
- 11:10focusing. They just are.
- 11:12I understand they can be easily distracted.
- 11:14You know, a little bit of wind in a child.
- 11:16It's like you, they'll scream the house down.
- 11:18I'm really up upset now I've got this gas, but normally when
- 11:22they're healthy and happy and they're not, they're not
- 11:24struggling with wind or some kind of pain or hunger.
- 11:27They are focused laser like how many people can remember
- 11:32children have children that just sit and watch the same movie
- 11:35over and over and over again. My, my, my eldest son watched
- 11:39cars over and over and over again.
- 11:42I got so I could tell you every line of cars cause I had to sit
- 11:45and watch it as well. It was always on in the
- 11:46background. Total focus.
- 11:48Children focus on You buy them a lovely present for Christmas and
- 11:51it comes in a beautiful box, but you've they forget what's in the
- 11:54box. They just play with the box.
- 11:55But for hours and hours and hours.
- 11:57Focus. Here's the kicker.
- 11:58When you're an adult, the neurotransmitter acetylcholine.
- 12:05See, I'm struggling to remember it again, right?
- 12:08Is not naturally present. We can produce it, but we can't
- 12:14naturally. It's just no longer just in our
- 12:17blood bloodstream. We have to generate it.
- 12:21And you know when it's happening because it's when you're
- 12:24focused. So, for example, if you sit down
- 12:27to do something and you find yourself focusing at it, on it,
- 12:31and you spend 5 minutes on something and you look up at the
- 12:35clock on the wall and you realize, no, it's not been 5
- 12:37minutes, it's been 5 hours. That was you focusing time.
- 12:41You lost track of time. That is the scholar alright.
- 12:47And so you need to create the environment in which the scholar
- 12:50can flourish. So get rid of all the
- 12:52distractions, all the usual tips that you're reading 1000 a
- 12:55million books and courses on productivity tally.
- 12:58Get rid of the distractions, deal with them.
- 13:00That's so the scholar can come in.
- 13:02The final one is the fun size warrior.
- 13:05Now the fun size warrior is like a fun size chocolate bar that
- 13:08you're having your lunch box for your children.
- 13:10So a fun size. Why not the big warrior?
- 13:12Now that the big warrior resides in your in in your, you see,
- 13:20it's science again, just science.
- 13:22And we're just not brilliant. The limbic system, right?
- 13:25We had to search in my brain just to think.
- 13:28Oh yeah, there's a biology word here, the limbic system, which
- 13:30is the oldest part of your brain.
- 13:33And it's also what I obviously couldn't I, I don't have, I have
- 13:36problems accessing when I'm trying to.
- 13:39It's where you get your fight, flight or freeze response from.
- 13:43It's vital. And if you think about it, our
- 13:45brain only has what, 2 functions?
- 13:48If you think about it, our survival and our procreation as
- 13:52a species, that's it. Everything else is just gravy
- 13:55on, on, on the food. It's just extra.
- 13:58It's just living life. But you have to survive and you
- 14:01have to procreate. Those are the things that we
- 14:03were born to do, and it all comes from the limbic system and
- 14:07it's all powerful. It's very, very strong.
- 14:10It's primal and it's strong. It's much stronger than the
- 14:13prefrontal cortex, which is a much newer part of your brain.
- 14:16And So what happens there is that the big warrior comes out,
- 14:20they are ready to fight, flight or freeze.
- 14:22But if you're in that state, what's called threat modality,
- 14:25you're not going to be very productive.
- 14:27You're going to be very good at, you might be very productive at
- 14:29running away. You may be very productive at
- 14:31hiding from your responsibilities.
- 14:34Procrastination, that's where it's hardwired.
- 14:36Guys and girls, you may be very productive at any number of
- 14:41things that have nothing to do with your work because it's
- 14:44flight, fight or freeze, right? So that's the big warrior and we
- 14:49need the big warrior. If you're ever attacked by a man
- 14:51eating tiger, you need the big warrior.
- 14:53Or as I prefer to think of it, bills you can't pay, landlords
- 14:58trying to evict you, bosses being nasty to you, bad
- 15:01relationships or just arguments in relationships, bad news about
- 15:07health, yours or someone else. These are all triggering your
- 15:10limbic system. They all trigger your threat.
- 15:13Big warrior comes out, you either fight it, you fly or you
- 15:16or you freeze cause it's like you're terrified.
- 15:18What have I got to do about this terrible news?
- 15:22Or, or you run away from it, right?
- 15:24So the point about all this is you don't want the big worry,
- 15:29you want the fun size warrior. And the fun size warrior is so
- 15:33is the more adrenaline where you get that little edge, that
- 15:37little bit of stress, that little bit of anxiety like James
- 15:42Clear talks about in the Goldilocks Principle.
- 15:44Not too much, not too little, just enough, just enough to give
- 15:48you that edge. It's happened, right?
- 15:51It's like happening to me right now.
- 15:52If I sit back in my chair and completely relax, I'm gonna, I'm
- 15:56obviously I am. I do distract myself and forget
- 15:59my train of thought, but I'll completely lose my train of
- 16:01thought. Play off with the fairies in
- 16:03their title. Be like all squirrel.
- 16:04You know how we gone. But because I'm on the literally
- 16:08on the edge of my seat, I'm much sharper.
- 16:11I'm much more focused. I'm much more capable and
- 16:14willing and able and wanting to get on with the day.
- 16:17I love this because there are things that you can tap into,
- 16:21guys, we heard it. You want to talk to the people
- 16:24with your focus. That's your conductor.
- 16:26Bring in your scholar and bring in that little bit of edge to
- 16:30get off 0 and you know, getting off 0 is one of my very favorite
- 16:34principles. I want to ask you one tip here.
- 16:37How do you build accountability that actually works because you
- 16:40had this moment from shock and disruption and frustration and
- 16:44anger with yourself of wow, did I waste opportunity?
- 16:47It's costed me main war that I really anticipated, but you're
- 16:51now taking the lesson. The insight to action was the
- 16:55one tip to building accountability that actually
- 16:57works. So this will sound very
- 17:00self-serving and it's not meant to be.
- 17:04And just to give you some background, well, I'll tell you
- 17:07what it is now I'll explain it. Get yourself an external
- 17:10accountability buddy, friend or coach.
- 17:15There's the amateurs and the professionals, anything like
- 17:18that. Now there's, I always say that
- 17:21you have to really be careful about when you're working with
- 17:24friends and buddies don't by the way, not your significant other.
- 17:27It's not fair to ask them to hold you to account.
- 17:30They already do, indirectly or directly, but it's not fair to
- 17:33make it their responsibility. That's too.
- 17:35That's just not a nice. Thing talking percent on that.
- 17:38Right, so it needs to be somebody that you can share
- 17:42accountability with. Now there's a cost involved in
- 17:44that which you will probably have to do it for them.
- 17:46So that's a time cost and you can't get back time.
- 17:49You can get back money, but you can't get back time.
- 17:51So always think about that. And an accountability buddy also
- 17:55may or may not be good for your psychology.
- 17:57They might just tell, you know, just get on with it, dude,
- 18:00because you're crap at that. Pardon my French.
- 18:02You know that. You know it's.
- 18:04Like all the time, said me, Christine.
- 18:05You're gonna just tell me to go do it?
- 18:07I'm like there is an element in me that says yes, just go do it.
- 18:10Yes, but it's how you're. Talking about not doing it, you
- 18:12could have executed this. Stop procrastinating and take
- 18:17action. But if your accountability body
- 18:20doesn't know what they're doing, they can undermine your
- 18:23confidence and they can actually drag you back.
- 18:25So that said, I've had many accountability buddies over the
- 18:28years and, and it's a brilliant way to go.
- 18:31But you can also go for a professional external
- 18:33accountability coach. Now, I have to say, I did say
- 18:36that self-serving because that's what I do, but I wasn't an
- 18:39accountability coach. I only became it because I
- 18:42started writing the book. And as I was writing the book
- 18:45that I've got to say, you know, the book is, is 95% of this book
- 18:50is self-help, OK. And that's it's written in the
- 18:54intention that you don't need anything else that's very
- 18:58important and it's written in plain English and it's divided
- 19:01up into sections and sub sections that you should make a
- 19:03lot of sense. And I don't obviously don't have
- 19:05time to go into that today, but the point is, is that as I was
- 19:11writing the book, the research, because I always went back to
- 19:14the research. That's why there's a science in
- 19:16the name it get results. Technology kept going back to
- 19:19the science. It kept pointing at
- 19:21accountability as one of the most effective momentum builders
- 19:26towards productivity that you could possibly imagine.
- 19:28Why is that important? Why external accountability?
- 19:312 things. First, if you work for yourself
- 19:33from home like me, maybe you've got a nice coffee machine.
- 19:37I do love my coffee. I'm a bit obsessed with my
- 19:39coffee. I've got a nice view from my
- 19:41window. I work flexible hours.
- 19:43I can pick and choose around my clients, what hours I work.
- 19:46I, you know, I have a great lifestyle.
- 19:48But the one thing I can't recreate is a boss.
- 19:52I mean, I look, I get up in the morning, I'm looking in the
- 19:54mirror. It's my boss looking back at me.
- 19:56You know, he's my boss. He's a lunatic, but he's my
- 20:00boss. But he's really bad at holding
- 20:03me to accounts. And that is the critical point.
- 20:07For people who struggle with procrastination, making excuses
- 20:11for not not everybody. A lot of people are like me,
- 20:13they don't recognise that they that they were even doing it for
- 20:16decades. I, you know, common cold
- 20:20classification, whatever didn't occur to me, right, is that
- 20:25you've got to, um, with accountability, you have to have
- 20:31that in your life in a way that connects with other people.
- 20:36I love. That because we are, we are a
- 20:40herding animal. We like being amongst other
- 20:43people. In fact, that is the other point
- 20:45about your brain. It's wired for survival, it's
- 20:48wired for regeneration, for for procreation, but it's also wired
- 20:54to be social and, and we look to our peers.
- 20:59Now, if you have a project to do that's going to take you maybe
- 21:02six months or a year to do it. Or in the case of my book, it
- 21:04took me nearly five years to get everything in place and get the
- 21:08book finally published earlier this year.
- 21:11That's a big project and it's daunting and it becomes
- 21:14overwhelming. Procrastination is easy to set
- 21:16in and it's it's so far off in the future.
- 21:19The targets, the goals, it's very difficult to stay focused
- 21:23throughout. But if you have an external
- 21:25accountability coach or buddy, they can say, OK, never mind
- 21:29what you're going to get done in six months or a year.
- 21:30What are you going to get done by the end of today?
- 21:32What are you gonna get done by the end of the week?
- 21:34What are you gonna get done by the end of two weeks, 3 weeks, 4
- 21:36weeks? Come back to me and let me know.
- 21:39And if you're if they are the right person for you, you don't
- 21:42want to let them down. I love this that's.
- 21:44The place it's social. It's social and it is about
- 21:48getting help. I want to ask you, Robin, how
- 21:52are you working in your business right now to amplify your
- 21:56marketing message? What's working with you to gain
- 21:58clients to hire you as a professional accountability
- 22:02coach? OK, so again, there was this was
- 22:05a kind of a thank you for asking.
- 22:07This was a kind of chicken and egg situation.
- 22:09I didn't know which to do first. I actually wasn't coaching.
- 22:13When I started writing the book, the book I wrote for myself, it
- 22:16was like, I really want to understand this because I was so
- 22:18upset about this issue that had been going on under my own
- 22:22radar. I think of myself as a smart,
- 22:25intelligent person, but then I had this massive face palm
- 22:28moment. Oh my goodness, what have I been
- 22:30doing? Right?
- 22:32And so the point about that was, was that I, as I was writing the
- 22:37book and the accountability started to creep in there as a
- 22:41theme that I put it it, it weaves through the book.
- 22:44But the book, as I say, is self help.
- 22:47But I realized that I'm starting again.
- 22:49I haven't been coaching, you know, for a long time.
- 22:53I became a full time single father in the early 2000s and,
- 22:56and concentrated on that more than my coaching, to be honest.
- 22:59That's where I went and I did other things online with
- 23:01marketing and so on. And then I thought, OK, so I
- 23:05could offer this as something now that I can offer people.
- 23:08I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm a modest person when I say I'm, I'm
- 23:11actually quite a good coach. OK, so self-serving.
- 23:14Again, if I don't sing my praises, he will, you know.
- 23:19So here's the point. I know when I published the book
- 23:24that I'm, I'm an unknown. So I decided, right, OK, I don't
- 23:27mind. I'm not proud.
- 23:29There's nothing in the book that's highly that's original.
- 23:32I didn't do any new research. I simply brought the disparate
- 23:35strands together and translated it into language that I
- 23:38understood and I hope other people will understand.
- 23:41And so now you can buy the book if you want to online.
- 23:44Or what I normally do is I just give it away as a free PDF.
- 23:47And that's, that is how I'm reaching people because I give
- 23:51them the book and I say, look, read the book, take it with my
- 23:53blessing. Absolutely hope it works for
- 23:56you. Let me know.
- 23:57Drop me a line, I'd love to know And of course, if you're ever in
- 24:00the market for the belt and braces approach to the top top
- 24:04hat and tails approached with with what about braces is better
- 24:07analogy for us Brits. And then you will then then you
- 24:10will probably won't be thinking about an accountability coach,
- 24:13of which there are many. I hope you will consider me and
- 24:16of course I will teach you laser targeted, laser focused.
- 24:20We get results ology accountability coaching.
- 24:23OK, so how do people find you, connect with you and get that
- 24:27free copy of the book to start their journey and being more
- 24:31effective? Sure, two things simple.
- 24:33Come, come find me on LinkedIn. Just look at my name, Robin J
- 24:36Emden on LinkedIn that you'll find me.
- 24:38There are no other Robin JM guns in the world.
- 24:40I promise you that one is in more than enough.
- 24:42It's more than enough for me. And if you want the book, I have
- 24:46a very easy trip. I have two websites, but
- 24:48obviously I've got get results ology.com.
- 24:51You can find it there, but equally easy or maybe easier.
- 24:54I have really usefultips.com as in yes, I'm really giving it
- 24:59away useful as I hope you find it very useful and tips was in
- 25:04it's full of them really usefultips.com that takes you
- 25:08straight to getting a free download of the PDF of the book.
- 25:12It is unabridged. That's exactly the copy that you
- 25:15would buy as a paperback or Kindle book on.
- 25:18Amazon, I love it. Guys, go connect to Robin.
- 25:21This is an important topic. You are not in your own
- 25:25isolation, struggling, and the key is getting help.
- 25:29Thank you for being our guest today.
- 25:30Absolutely a pleasure to have you.
- 25:32And guys, I want you to know this because one of the things
- 25:34that we do in our business absolutely is we just hold your
- 25:38hand. We would know that when you're
- 25:41starting, you're wired to get in your own way, and yet it is
- 25:46costing you more than you could afford to reach the results.
- 25:50So I want you to connect to Robin.
- 25:54I want you to be back here for our next episode and right now
- 25:59Subscribe and we'll see you next week.
- 26:08That's a wrap on another amazing episode of Amplify your
- 26:11Marketing Message with me, your host Christine Campbell rap.
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