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Former Mets Great Art Shamsky, Author Chris Donnelly · WGBB Sports Talk New York

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York.
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Good
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evening
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and
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hello
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again,
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everybody.
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Welcome
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welcome
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to
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on
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Island,
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New
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York.
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Donahue
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here
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with
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you
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on
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this.
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It's
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the
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20th
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day
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of
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July,
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2025.
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Our
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engineer
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Brian
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Graves
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is
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with
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us
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as
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always,
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and
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I'm
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glad
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to
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have
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you
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aboard
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tonight.
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We've
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got
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a
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big
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show
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for
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you
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tonight.
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Up
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first,
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we'll
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welcome
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back
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the
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1969
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Miracle
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met
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Art
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Shamsky.
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He'll
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join
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us
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up
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next.
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After
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Art,
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we
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start
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a
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cavalcade
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of
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great
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authors.
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On
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the
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show,
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Chris
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Donnelly
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will
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speak
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to
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us
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about
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his
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new
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book
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on
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the
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road
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to
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the
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2000
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subway
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series.
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In
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the
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three
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spot,
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we'll
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welcome
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in
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Steve
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Dittmore.
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He's
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written
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a
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new
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book
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about
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what
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we
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call
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the
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forgotten
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Dodger,
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Jim
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Gilliam.
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And
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last
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but
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not
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least,
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we
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talk
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about
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the
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Dodgers
1:18
85
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World
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or
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excuse
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me,
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the
1:20
85
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World
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Series.
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And
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as
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documented
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so
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well
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in
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this
1:25
great
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book
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from
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Marshall
1:28
Garvey.
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So
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we
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got
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a
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packed
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show
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for
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you
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tonight.
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So
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settle
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in,
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sit
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back,
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relax,
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enjoy
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the
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chat
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tonight.
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Got
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some
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great
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stuff
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up
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ahead
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for
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you
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before
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we
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start.
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As
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always,
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I
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invite
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you
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to
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follow
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me
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on
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my
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Facebook
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page.
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It's
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called
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the
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Talk
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of
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catch
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up
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anytime
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at
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your
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leisure.
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Our
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first
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guest,
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he
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was
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an
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integral
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player
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on
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the
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1969
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World
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Series
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champion
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Miracle
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Mets.
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He
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batted.300
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with
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14
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home
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runs
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while
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platooning
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in
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right
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field
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and
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then
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he
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hit
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just
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5.
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38
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in
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the
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postseason.
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He's
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got
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several
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great
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things
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we
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want
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to
2:23
get
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to
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tonight
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that
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I
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know
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you'll
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be
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interested
2:26
in
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his
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book
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upcoming
2:28
appearances,
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so
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I
2:29
will.
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Welcome
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back
2:30
to
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Sports
2:31
Talk
2:31
New
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York.
2:32
Tonight,
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Art
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Shamsky.
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ART
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Good
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evening,
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Bill.
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It's
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always
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great
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to
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be
2:36
with
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you.
2:37
Hope
2:37
all
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is
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well
2:38
with
2:38
you.
2:38
Very,
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very
2:39
good.
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ART
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yeah,
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things
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are
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okay
2:41
now.
2:41
We're
2:41
Art
2:41
will
2:42
be
2:42
taking
2:42
part
2:43
in
2:43
the
2:43
upcoming
2:44
Legends
2:44
of
2:44
Baseball
2:45
cruise.
2:46
And
2:46
Art,
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we
2:47
have
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a
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special
2:47
guest
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to
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tell
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us
2:48
more
2:48
about
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this.
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Please
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introduce
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this
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gentleman.
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ART
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yeah.
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Dave
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Demeo,
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who
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puts
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together
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these
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baseball
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cruises
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is
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going
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to
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be
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a
2:57
wonderful
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time
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in
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May
2:59
of
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2026.
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It'll
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be
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similar
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to
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the
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Yankees
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versus
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the
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Mets.
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There'll
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be
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some
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terrific
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Yankee
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players
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along
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with
3:06
some
3:07
former
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Met
3:07
greats
3:08
including
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Doc
3:10
Gooden
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and
3:11
Howard
3:12
Johnson
3:12
and
3:12
myself.
3:12
And
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there'll
3:13
be
3:13
some
3:13
wonderful
3:14
Yankee
3:14
players
3:14
and
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Dave
3:15
can
3:15
tell
3:15
you
3:16
about.
3:16
But
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it's
3:16
going
3:16
to
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be
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a
3:17
great
3:17
time.
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And
3:18
I
3:18
just
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want
3:19
to
3:19
introduce
3:19
Dave
3:19
to
3:19
the
3:20
fans
3:20
out
3:20
there
3:20
and
3:20
yourself
3:21
and
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Dave,
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welcome
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to
3:22
the
3:23
show
3:23
and
3:23
go
3:23
ahead
3:23
and
3:24
talk
3:24
about
3:24
the
3:24
cruise
3:24
in
3:25
May
3:25
of
3:25
2026.
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Absolutely.
3:28
Thank
3:28
you.
3:29
Bill,
3:29
thank
3:29
you
3:29
very
3:29
much
3:30
for
3:30
taking
3:30
the
3:30
time
3:31
to
3:31
speak
3:31
to
3:31
us
3:31
about
3:32
our
3:32
Cruise.
3:32
Coming
3:32
up,
3:33
May
3:34
17,
3:34
2026
3:36
Legends
3:36
of
3:36
Baseball
3:37
cruise.
3:37
It's
3:38
a
3:38
wonderful
3:38
event.
3:39
It's
3:39
on
3:39
the
3:40
celebrity
3:40
apex
3:41
leaving
3:42
out
3:42
of
3:43
Port
3:44
Liberty
3:44
in
3:44
New
3:44
Jersey.
3:46
It's
3:46
a
3:46
week
3:46
long
3:46
cruise.
3:47
We
3:47
spend
3:48
three
3:48
days
3:48
docked
3:49
in
3:49
Bermuda.
3:50
And
3:50
to
3:50
give
3:50
you
3:50
a
3:50
little
3:51
bit
3:51
about
3:51
it,
3:51
I
3:51
organize
3:52
all
3:52
the
3:52
events
3:53
on
3:54
the
3:54
cruise
3:54
with
3:55
all
3:55
the
3:55
players.
3:55
So
3:56
to
3:56
give
3:56
you
3:56
a
3:57
little
3:57
bit
3:57
of
3:57
a
3:57
lineup,
3:58
obviously
3:58
we
3:59
have
3:59
Art,
3:59
Doc
4:00
Good
4:00
and
4:00
Howard
4:01
Johnson.
4:01
We,
4:02
we
4:02
have
4:03
Charlie
4:04
A's,
4:04
we
4:05
have
4:05
Mickey
4:05
Rivers,
4:06
Ron
4:06
Bloomberg,
4:08
Chuck
4:08
Knobloch,
4:09
Jesse
4:10
Barfield
4:11
and
4:12
Home
4:12
Bush.
4:12
I
4:13
think
4:13
that
4:13
rounds
4:13
out
4:13
everybody
4:15
and
4:15
it's
4:15
a
4:15
wonderful
4:16
time.
4:16
It's
4:16
a
4:17
different,
4:17
different
4:18
aspect
4:18
to
4:18
meet
4:19
the
4:19
players.
4:19
If
4:20
you're
4:20
a
4:20
rabid
4:21
fan
4:21
for
4:21
the
4:21
Mets
4:22
or
4:22
the
4:22
Yankees.
4:24
It's
4:24
a
4:24
wonderful
4:25
time.
4:25
It's
4:25
not
4:26
going
4:26
to
4:26
like
4:26
a
4:27
show
4:27
or
4:27
signing
4:28
where
4:28
you
4:28
get
4:28
a
4:28
few
4:29
minutes,
4:29
I
4:29
mean
4:30
you're
4:30
with
4:30
them
4:31
for
4:31
the
4:31
week.
4:31
We
4:32
do
4:32
an
4:33
opening
4:33
cocktail
4:34
hour
4:34
where
4:35
you
4:35
meet
4:35
everybody,
4:36
you
4:36
get
4:36
to
4:36
talk
4:36
to
4:37
them.
4:37
We
4:37
do
4:38
a
4:38
Q
4:38
and
4:38
A
4:39
session.
4:39
We
4:40
do
4:40
a
4:41
game
4:41
show.
4:43
We
4:43
actually
4:44
rented
4:45
a
4:45
private
4:46
resort
4:47
where
4:47
we
4:47
have
4:47
a
4:48
wonderful
4:48
wiffle
4:49
ball
4:49
game
4:49
against
4:50
the
4:50
pros.
4:50
They
4:51
pitch.
4:52
It's
4:52
an
4:53
incredible
4:53
event.
4:54
We
4:54
have
4:54
a
4:54
few
4:54
other
4:55
things
4:55
that
4:55
we
4:56
do
4:56
there.
4:56
We
4:56
also
4:57
have
4:57
a
4:57
closing
4:57
night,
4:58
we
4:58
play
4:58
a
4:58
video.
5:00
It's
5:00
just
5:00
a
5:00
great
5:01
way
5:02
to
5:02
kind
5:02
of
5:02
meet
5:03
your
5:03
heroes
5:03
and
5:03
talk
5:04
to
5:04
players
5:04
and
5:04
hear
5:05
the
5:05
stories.
5:06
You
5:06
know,
5:06
I
5:07
make
5:07
the
5:07
statement
5:07
that
5:07
it's
5:08
you
5:08
always
5:08
know
5:09
where
5:09
Ron
5:09
Bloomberg
5:10
and
5:10
Mickey
5:10
Rivers
5:11
are
5:11
because
5:11
they're
5:11
usually
5:12
sitting
5:12
up
5:12
in
5:13
the
5:13
dining
5:14
room
5:14
with
5:15
20
5:15
or
5:15
30
5:16
people
5:16
around
5:16
telling
5:17
stories.
5:17
So
5:18
it's
5:18
just
5:18
a
5:19
wonderful
5:19
event.
5:20
It's
5:20
very,
5:21
very
5:21
social.
5:22
All
5:22
the
5:23
players
5:23
engage
5:24
and
5:24
they
5:24
just
5:24
have
5:24
a
5:25
wonderful
5:25
time.
5:26
Now,
5:26
I
5:26
don't
5:27
know
5:27
if
5:27
you
5:27
mentioned
5:28
it,
5:28
Dave,
5:29
where's
5:29
the
5:29
cruise
5:30
going
5:30
to?
5:31
Oh,
5:32
we're
5:32
going
5:32
to
5:32
Alvin.
5:32
We're
5:33
going
5:33
to
5:33
Bermuda.
5:33
I
5:33
apologize.
5:35
Port
5:36
Liberty
5:36
to
5:36
Bermuda.
5:37
So
5:37
it's
5:37
two
5:37
days
5:38
at
5:38
sea,
5:39
three
5:39
days
5:39
docked
5:41
in
5:41
Bermuda
5:42
and
5:42
then
5:42
two
5:42
days
5:43
back.
5:43
So
5:43
it
5:44
goes
5:44
from
5:44
a.
5:46
It's
5:46
Saturday.
5:47
Saturday.
5:50
Nice.
5:51
And
5:52
anything
5:52
else
5:53
you
5:53
want
5:53
to
5:53
tell
5:53
the
5:53
folks
5:54
about
5:54
this,
5:54
Dave?
5:55
I
5:55
mean,
5:56
you
5:57
should
5:57
check
5:57
it
5:57
out.
5:57
I
5:58
mean,
5:58
it's
5:58
Legends
5:58
of
5:58
Baseball
5:59
cruise.
6:00
You
6:00
can
6:00
get
6:00
information@infoartshansky.com
6:04
if
6:05
you
6:05
do
6:05
happen
6:05
to
6:05
look
6:06
us
6:06
up
6:06
online,
6:07
please
6:08
put
6:08
that
6:08
you
6:09
heard
6:09
it
6:09
here
6:10
first
6:11
on
6:11
the
6:11
radio
6:12
station
6:12
with
6:12
Bill
6:12
and
6:13
Art
6:13
so
6:14
that
6:14
we're
6:14
aware.
6:15
If
6:15
there
6:15
are
6:15
any
6:15
questions
6:16
or,
6:17
you
6:17
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6:34
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6:34
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6:35
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6:35
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6:35
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6:36
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6:37
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Bill
6:37
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Art.
6:38
Wonderful,
6:39
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6:40
I
6:40
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6:40
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6:40
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6:41
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6:41
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6:42
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6:53
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6:56
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6:56
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6:57
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6:58
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6:58
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6:58
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6:59
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6:59
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6:59
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6:59
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7:00
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7:01
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7:01
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7:01
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7:02
it,
7:02
Dave,
7:02
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7:02
thank
7:03
you
7:03
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7:03
your
7:03
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7:03
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7:03
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7:04
carry
7:04
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7:05
with
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Art.
7:06
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7:07
appreciate
7:07
it,
7:07
Art,
7:08
as
7:08
always,
7:08
it's
7:09
always
7:09
a
7:09
pleasure
7:10
and
7:11
it
7:11
was
7:11
a
7:11
great
7:11
time.
7:12
Thank
7:12
you
7:12
very
7:12
much,
7:12
gentlemen.
7:13
Thanks,
7:13
Dave.
7:14
Thank
7:14
you,
7:14
Dave.
7:15
Well,
7:15
Art
7:15
Schamsey
7:16
is
7:16
with
7:16
us,
7:16
folks.
7:17
For
7:17
those
7:18
who
7:18
don't
7:18
know,
7:19
Art
7:19
has
7:20
recently
7:20
penned
7:21
a
7:21
great
7:22
book
7:22
titled
7:22
Met
7:23
Stories
7:23
I
7:24
Only
7:24
Tell
7:24
My
7:25
Friends,
7:25
written
7:26
with
7:26
Matthew
7:27
Silverman.
7:28
It's
7:28
getting
7:28
a
7:28
lot
7:29
of
7:29
attention.
7:30
A
7:30
friend
7:30
who
7:30
used
7:30
to
7:31
write
7:31
for
7:31
Newsday
7:32
of
7:32
mine
7:33
currently
7:33
reading
7:34
the
7:34
book
7:34
and
7:35
Matthew
7:35
recently
7:36
participated
7:37
in
7:37
the
7:37
Baseball
7:38
hall
7:38
of
7:38
Fame's
7:38
Author
7:39
series
7:39
up
7:40
in
7:40
Cooperstown
7:40
with
7:41
the
7:41
book.
7:41
What
7:41
gave
7:42
you
7:42
the
7:42
idea
7:42
for
7:43
this
7:43
great
7:43
book?
7:43
Art?
7:44
Well,
7:45
you
7:45
know,
7:45
Bill,
7:45
I've
7:45
written
7:46
three
7:46
books
7:46
and
7:47
generally
7:47
about
7:48
the
7:48
New
7:48
York
7:48
Mets
7:48
and
7:49
69
7:49
Mets
7:49
in
7:50
particular.
7:51
You
7:51
know,
7:52
I
7:52
think
7:52
it's
7:52
probably
7:54
more
7:54
books
7:54
have
7:54
been
7:54
written
7:55
about
7:55
that
7:55
team
7:55
than
7:56
any
7:56
sports
7:56
team
7:57
in
7:57
history.
7:58
Maybe
7:58
more
7:58
books
7:58
have
7:59
been
7:59
written
7:59
about
7:59
the
8:00
Yankees
8:00
organization,
8:01
but
8:01
certainly
8:02
an
8:02
individual
8:03
team.
8:03
I
8:03
don't
8:03
think
8:04
any
8:04
more
8:04
books
8:05
have
8:05
been
8:05
written
8:05
about
8:06
a
8:06
team
8:06
than
8:07
the
8:07
69
8:07
Mets.
8:08
And
8:09
when
8:09
I
8:09
was
8:09
trying
8:09
to
8:10
figure
8:10
out
8:10
what
8:10
I
8:10
wanted
8:11
to
8:11
write
8:11
about,
8:11
someone
8:11
talking
8:12
about
8:12
a
8:12
book
8:13
President
8:13
Dwight
8:14
Eisenhower
8:14
wrote
8:15
many
8:15
years
8:16
ago
8:16
called
8:16
At
8:17
Ease
8:17
Stories
8:18
I
8:18
Tell
8:18
My
8:19
Friends.
8:19
And
8:19
I
8:19
looked
8:20
it
8:20
up
8:20
and
8:20
looked
8:21
at
8:21
some
8:21
of
8:21
the
8:21
pages
8:22
and
8:22
it
8:22
made
8:22
me
8:23
think
8:23
about
8:24
all
8:24
the
8:24
stories
8:25
that
8:25
haven't
8:25
been
8:25
told
8:26
about
8:26
the
8:26
69
8:26
Mets.
8:27
And
8:27
so
8:27
what
8:27
I
8:27
did
8:28
is
8:28
I
8:28
just
8:28
talked
8:29
about
8:30
some
8:30
Things
8:31
that
8:31
I
8:31
experienced
8:32
on
8:32
and
8:32
off
8:32
the
8:33
field.
8:33
There's
8:33
nothing
8:34
in
8:34
this
8:34
book
8:34
that's
8:34
going
8:35
to
8:35
make
8:35
anybody
8:36
feel
8:36
like
8:36
they're
8:36
going
8:36
to
8:37
find
8:37
some
8:37
bad
8:37
stuff
8:38
about
8:38
any
8:38
players.
8:39
That's
8:39
not
8:39
going
8:39
to
8:39
happen.
8:39
It's
8:40
really
8:40
a.
8:40
A
8:41
fun
8:41
kind
8:41
of
8:41
look
8:42
at
8:42
things
8:42
that
8:42
I
8:43
did
8:43
on
8:43
and
8:43
off
8:43
the
8:44
field.
8:44
And
8:45
again,
8:45
stretching
8:46
out
8:46
some
8:46
of
8:46
the
8:47
stories
8:47
and
8:47
adding
8:48
some
8:48
of
8:48
the
8:48
stories
8:49
that
8:49
have
8:49
already
8:49
been
8:49
told.
8:50
There's
8:50
so
8:50
much
8:51
going
8:51
on
8:51
about
8:51
that
8:51
team,
8:52
even
8:52
now,
8:52
56
8:53
years
8:53
later.
8:53
So
8:54
for
8:54
me,
8:54
it
8:54
was
8:54
just
8:55
a
8:55
labor
8:56
of
8:56
love
8:56
to
8:56
write
8:56
about
8:57
that
8:57
team
8:57
again
8:57
and
8:58
about
8:58
my
8:58
experiences,
8:59
including
8:59
when
8:59
I
9:00
found
9:00
out
9:00
I
9:00
was
9:00
traded
9:01
to
9:01
the
9:01
Mets.
9:02
That
9:02
in
9:02
itself
9:02
is
9:03
a
9:03
story
9:03
that
9:04
people
9:05
didn't
9:05
know
9:05
about.
9:05
And
9:06
my
9:06
shock
9:06
at
9:07
first
9:07
being
9:07
traded
9:08
and
9:08
second,
9:08
finding
9:09
out
9:09
was
9:09
the
9:10
team
9:10
that
9:10
was
9:10
losing
9:11
100
9:11
games
9:11
a
9:11
year.
9:12
And
9:12
I
9:12
think
9:12
people
9:13
will
9:13
get
9:13
a
9:13
kick
9:13
out
9:13
of
9:14
finding
9:14
out.
9:14
My
9:15
reaction
9:15
and
9:15
when
9:16
I
9:16
found
9:16
out,
9:16
coming
9:16
from
9:16
the
9:17
Reds
9:17
over
9:17
to
9:18
the
9:18
Mets,
9:18
and
9:18
then
9:19
it
9:19
was
9:19
just
9:19
really
9:19
about
9:20
some
9:20
of
9:20
the
9:20
experiences,
9:21
like
9:21
I
9:21
said,
9:21
that
9:22
I
9:22
had
9:22
with
9:22
my
9:23
roommates
9:24
and
9:24
my
9:24
teammates
9:25
and
9:25
things
9:25
with
9:25
the
9:26
Mets
9:26
and
9:26
a
9:26
couple
9:27
things
9:27
about
9:27
the
9:27
Cincinnati
9:28
Reds,
9:28
but
9:28
really
9:28
about
9:29
the
9:29
69
9:30
Mets.
9:31
Excellent.
9:31
And
9:32
some
9:32
of
9:32
the
9:33
names
9:33
that
9:33
the
9:34
fans
9:34
will
9:34
see
9:34
in
9:35
the
9:35
book.
9:35
Art,
9:35
give
9:35
us
9:36
an
9:36
example
9:36
of
9:37
some
9:37
of
9:37
the
9:38
players
9:38
that
9:38
you
9:38
mentioned.
9:40
Well,
9:40
you
9:40
know,
9:40
initially
9:41
I
9:41
talk
9:41
about
9:42
again
9:42
when
9:42
I
9:42
was
9:42
over
9:43
with
9:43
the
9:43
Reds
9:43
and
9:43
got
9:44
traded
9:44
over
9:44
to
9:44
the
9:44
Mets,
9:45
they
9:45
came
9:45
up
9:45
with
9:45
the
9:45
Reds
9:46
and
9:46
of
9:46
course,
9:47
we
9:48
never
9:48
won
9:48
a
9:48
pennant
9:49
or
9:49
a
9:50
World
9:50
Series
9:50
when
9:50
I
9:50
was
9:51
with
9:51
them,
9:51
but
9:51
we
9:51
had
9:51
great
9:52
teams.
9:52
Frank
9:52
Robinson
9:53
was
9:53
there,
9:54
Pete
9:54
Rose,
9:54
Tony
9:55
Perez,
9:55
Johnny
9:56
Bench,
9:56
I
9:56
mean,
9:58
all
9:58
these
9:58
great
9:58
names.
9:59
And
9:59
so
9:59
for
9:59
me,
10:00
spending
10:00
eight
10:00
years
10:01
in
10:01
that
10:01
organization,
10:02
in
10:02
the
10:02
minor
10:02
leagues
10:02
and
10:03
the
10:03
big
10:03
leagues,
10:03
and
10:03
finding
10:04
out
10:04
I
10:04
was
10:04
traded
10:05
was
10:05
really
10:05
a
10:05
shock.
10:05
But
10:06
then
10:06
when
10:06
I
10:06
got
10:06
over
10:07
to
10:07
the
10:07
Mets,
10:07
my
10:08
relationships
10:08
with
10:09
some
10:09
of
10:09
the
10:09
players
10:10
I
10:10
became
10:11
so
10:11
close
10:12
to,
10:12
like
10:12
Eddie
10:12
Crane
10:13
Poole
10:13
and
10:13
Kenny
10:14
Boswell,
10:14
my
10:15
roommate,
10:15
and
10:16
Cleon
10:16
Jones
10:17
and
10:17
Tommy
10:17
Agee
10:17
and
10:18
Ron
10:18
Sobota.
10:18
I
10:18
mean,
10:19
the
10:19
names
10:19
go
10:19
on
10:19
and
10:19
on.
10:21
When
10:21
you
10:22
go
10:22
from
10:22
a
10:22
team
10:22
that
10:23
finishes
10:23
ninth
10:24
half
10:24
game
10:25
out
10:25
of
10:25
last
10:25
place,
10:25
which
10:26
we
10:26
did
10:26
in
10:26
1968,
10:28
and
10:28
then
10:28
win
10:28
a
10:28
World
10:28
Series,
10:29
it
10:29
changes
10:29
your
10:30
life.
10:30
And
10:30
I
10:30
talk
10:30
about
10:31
how
10:31
that
10:32
team
10:33
is
10:33
still
10:33
56
10:34
years
10:34
later
10:34
is
10:34
talked
10:35
about
10:35
and
10:36
relished
10:36
in
10:36
people's
10:37
mind
10:37
because
10:38
of
10:38
what
10:38
we
10:38
did
10:39
and
10:39
what
10:39
we
10:39
accomplished,
10:40
where
10:40
we
10:40
came
10:40
from.
10:41
So
10:41
many
10:41
factors
10:42
are
10:42
into
10:43
why
10:43
that
10:43
team
10:43
is
10:44
so
10:44
popular,
10:45
including
10:45
how
10:46
we
10:46
even
10:46
beat
10:46
a
10:46
team
10:46
that
10:47
won
10:47
107,
10:48
108
10:48
games
10:48
in
10:48
the
10:49
regular
10:49
season
10:50
in
10:50
The
10:50
World
10:50
Series
10:50
in
10:51
the
10:51
Baltimore
10:51
Orioles.
10:52
But
10:52
really,
10:52
the
10:52
team
10:53
was
10:53
known
10:53
as
10:53
the
10:53
lovable
10:54
losers
10:55
in
10:55
those
10:55
early
10:55
years.
10:56
And
10:56
then
10:56
to
10:56
turn
10:56
it
10:56
around
10:57
and
10:57
win
10:57
it
10:58
at
10:58
a
10:58
time
10:58
when
10:59
the
10:59
city
10:59
and
11:00
the
11:00
country
11:00
was
11:00
really
11:01
involved
11:01
in
11:01
a
11:01
war,
11:02
the
11:03
war
11:03
in
11:03
Vietnam,
11:04
and
11:04
really
11:04
a
11:04
turbulent
11:05
time.
11:05
You
11:05
know,
11:06
we're
11:06
in
11:06
a
11:06
world
11:06
that's
11:06
upside
11:07
down
11:07
now,
11:07
Bill,
11:08
and
11:08
even
11:09
now
11:09
we
11:09
have
11:09
a
11:10
lot
11:10
of
11:10
problems.
11:10
Back
11:11
in
11:11
the
11:11
late
11:11
60s,
11:12
that
11:12
war
11:12
in
11:13
Vietnam
11:13
was
11:13
tearing
11:14
the
11:14
country
11:14
apart,
11:14
and
11:15
the
11:15
city
11:15
was
11:15
going
11:15
under
11:16
in
11:16
so
11:16
many
11:17
ways.
11:17
Financially,
11:18
socially,
11:18
morally,
11:19
spiritually.
11:19
And
11:20
we
11:20
and
11:20
the
11:20
jets
11:21
and
11:21
the
11:21
Knicks,
11:21
who
11:22
all
11:22
won
11:22
in
11:23
that
11:23
period
11:23
of
11:23
time,
11:24
all
11:24
for
11:24
the
11:24
first
11:25
time,
11:25
ironically,
11:27
that
11:27
was
11:27
my
11:27
first
11:27
book,
11:28
the
11:28
Magnificent
11:29
Seasons,
11:29
and
11:29
we
11:30
all
11:30
won
11:30
for
11:30
the
11:30
first
11:30
time.
11:31
And
11:31
I
11:31
think
11:31
people
11:31
pass
11:32
that
11:32
on,
11:32
that
11:33
legacy,
11:34
what
11:34
we
11:34
did
11:34
to
11:35
make
11:35
them
11:35
feel
11:35
better
11:35
about
11:36
their
11:36
lives.
11:36
And
11:37
I
11:37
pass
11:37
it
11:37
on
11:37
from
11:38
generation
11:38
to
11:38
generation.
11:39
You
11:39
know,
11:39
I
11:40
meet
11:40
young
11:40
people
11:41
today
11:41
who
11:41
weren't
11:41
even
11:41
born
11:42
who
11:42
know
11:42
about
11:42
that
11:43
team
11:43
from
11:43
their
11:43
parents
11:44
and
11:44
their
11:44
grandparents.
11:45
And
11:45
for
11:46
me
11:46
to
11:46
be
11:46
able
11:47
to
11:47
talk
11:47
to
11:47
people,
11:48
I
11:48
find,
11:49
you
11:49
know,
11:49
when
11:49
I
11:49
meet
11:49
people
11:50
who.
11:50
Who
11:50
were
11:51
around
11:51
at
11:51
that
11:51
time
11:52
and
11:52
talk
11:52
about
11:53
that
11:53
team,
11:54
it
11:54
kind
11:55
of
11:55
brings
11:55
back
11:55
their
11:55
youth
11:56
a
11:56
little
11:56
bit.
11:56
It
11:56
makes
11:56
me
11:57
feel
11:57
younger
11:57
just
11:57
to
11:57
talk
11:58
about
11:58
it.
11:58
I
11:59
see
11:59
their
11:59
eyes
12:00
light
12:00
up
12:00
and
12:00
they
12:01
remember
12:01
when
12:01
their
12:02
parents
12:02
took
12:02
them
12:02
to
12:03
games,
12:03
and
12:03
then
12:03
when
12:03
they
12:04
took
12:04
their
12:04
children
12:04
to
12:05
games,
12:05
and
12:05
then
12:06
maybe
12:06
they
12:06
took
12:06
their
12:06
grandchildren
12:07
games
12:08
back
12:08
then.
12:08
It
12:09
really
12:09
is
12:09
kind
12:09
of
12:10
a
12:10
period
12:10
in
12:11
all
12:11
of
12:11
our
12:11
lives
12:11
that
12:12
are
12:12
so
12:12
special.
12:12
And
12:13
again,
12:13
even
12:13
though
12:14
it's
12:14
been
12:14
56
12:15
years,
12:16
56
12:16
years,
12:16
it's
12:17
is
12:17
still
12:17
a
12:18
big
12:18
part
12:18
of
12:18
my
12:18
life
12:19
and
12:19
a
12:19
big
12:19
part
12:19
of
12:19
a
12:19
lot
12:20
of
12:20
people's
12:20
life
12:20
because
12:20
it
12:21
brings
12:21
back
12:21
so
12:22
many
12:22
wonderful
12:22
memories.
12:23
What
12:24
a
12:24
great
12:24
connection
12:25
to
12:25
make
12:25
with
12:25
people
12:26
through
12:26
the
12:27
ball
12:27
club,
12:27
Art.
12:28
That's
12:28
for
12:28
sure.
12:29
Now,
12:29
we're
12:29
talking
12:30
to
12:30
Art
12:30
Shamsky
12:31
tonight
12:31
about
12:31
his
12:32
book,
12:32
Met
12:33
Stories
12:33
I
12:33
Only
12:34
Tell
12:34
My
12:34
Friends.
12:35
Now,
12:35
Art,
12:36
where
12:36
can
12:36
fans
12:37
get
12:37
the
12:37
book
12:38
or
12:38
any
12:38
of
12:38
your
12:39
other
12:39
books?
12:40
Well,
12:40
they
12:40
can
12:40
get
12:40
them
12:41
on
12:41
Amazon
12:41
for
12:42
sure
12:42
in
12:42
bookstores,
12:43
but
12:43
if
12:43
they
12:43
want
12:44
a
12:44
personalized
12:44
copy,
12:45
they
12:45
can
12:45
go
12:45
to
12:45
my
12:45
website,
12:46
infoartshansky.com
12:48
or
12:48
clarkshansky.com
12:50
they'll
12:50
get
12:50
an
12:50
autograph
12:51
copy
12:51
from
12:52
me,
12:52
but
12:52
it's
12:53
still
12:54
doing
12:54
really
12:55
well
12:55
in
12:55
the
12:55
bookstores,
12:56
and
12:56
then,
12:56
like
12:56
I
12:56
said,
12:56
on
12:57
Amazon,
12:57
and
12:58
I
12:58
think
12:59
they'll
12:59
really
12:59
enjoy
12:59
it.
13:00
It's
13:00
a
13:00
little
13:00
bit
13:00
of
13:00
different
13:00
take
13:01
on
13:02
my
13:02
career
13:02
and
13:02
my
13:03
life
13:03
and
13:03
some
13:04
fun
13:04
stories,
13:05
a
13:05
couple
13:05
serious
13:06
stories,
13:07
and,
13:07
you
13:08
know,
13:08
really
13:09
very
13:09
special
13:09
time
13:10
in
13:10
my
13:10
life.
13:10
You
13:10
know,
13:11
bill,
13:11
I
13:11
played
13:12
13
13:12
years.
13:13
And
13:13
really,
13:13
for
13:13
all
13:14
intents
13:14
and
13:14
purposes,
13:15
nobody
13:15
ever
13:15
talks
13:16
about
13:16
the
13:16
other
13:16
12,
13:17
always
13:18
about
13:18
1969.
13:19
And
13:19
I
13:20
go
13:20
out
13:20
to
13:20
these
13:20
personal
13:21
appearances
13:21
and
13:22
do
13:22
these
13:23
things,
13:23
and
13:23
people
13:24
tell
13:24
me
13:25
everything
13:25
that
13:26
they
13:26
remember
13:27
about
13:27
that
13:27
period
13:28
in
13:28
life.
13:28
And
13:28
what's
13:29
really
13:29
funny,
13:29
I
13:30
probably
13:30
over
13:30
the
13:30
years
13:30
have
13:31
met
13:31
100,000
13:32
people
13:32
who
13:33
told
13:33
me
13:33
that
13:34
they
13:34
were
13:34
at
13:34
the
13:34
last
13:35
game,
13:35
October
13:35
16,
13:36
1969,
13:37
when
13:37
we
13:37
won
13:38
the
13:38
World
13:38
Series.
13:38
And
13:39
I
13:39
said,
13:39
that's
13:39
great.
13:40
And
13:40
I
13:40
realized
13:40
the
13:40
ballpark
13:41
held
13:41
about
13:41
51,52,000
13:43
people.
13:44
So
13:45
either
13:45
they
13:45
were
13:45
there
13:45
or
13:46
they
13:46
weren't
13:46
there.
13:46
But
13:46
in
13:46
their
13:47
minds,
13:47
if
13:47
they
13:47
think
13:47
they
13:48
were
13:48
there,
13:48
that's
13:48
fine
13:48
with
13:49
me.
13:49
And,
13:50
you
13:50
know,
13:51
unfortunately,
13:51
we've
13:52
lost
13:52
so
13:52
many
13:52
wonderful
13:53
guys
13:53
from
13:54
that
13:54
team,
13:54
including
13:55
five
13:55
last
13:55
year
13:56
and
13:56
recently
13:57
Ron
13:57
Taylor,
13:57
a
13:58
terrific
13:58
pitcher
13:59
for
13:59
the
13:59
Mets
13:59
that
14:00
year,
14:00
and
14:00
he
14:01
just
14:01
passed
14:01
away,
14:01
so
14:02
lost
14:02
a
14:02
lot
14:02
of
14:02
key
14:03
members.
14:03
But
14:03
I've
14:04
got
14:04
so
14:04
many
14:04
wonderful
14:05
memories
14:05
sharing
14:06
on
14:07
and
14:07
off
14:07
the
14:07
field
14:07
with
14:08
those
14:08
guys.
14:09
And
14:09
I
14:10
miss
14:10
the
14:10
camaraderie
14:11
and
14:11
the
14:11
fun
14:12
times.
14:12
But
14:13
the
14:13
reality
14:13
of
14:13
it
14:13
is
14:14
I
14:14
have
14:14
these
14:14
great
14:14
memories
14:15
and
14:15
I
14:15
get
14:16
a
14:16
chance
14:16
to
14:16
talk
14:16
to
14:17
wonderful
14:17
people
14:18
like
14:18
yourself
14:18
who
14:19
still
14:19
remember
14:19
that
14:20
theme
14:20
and
14:20
want
14:20
to
14:21
talk
14:21
about
14:21
it.
14:21
Incidentally,
14:22
before
14:22
I
14:22
forget,
14:23
I
14:24
don't
14:24
know
14:24
if
14:24
you
14:25
remember
14:25
this,
14:26
though,
14:26
Bill,
14:26
that
14:27
today's
14:27
date
14:28
was
14:28
a
14:28
very
14:29
big
14:29
day
14:29
in
14:30
1969
14:30
history,
14:32
the
14:32
walk
14:32
on
14:32
the
14:32
moon.
14:33
And
14:33
we
14:33
were
14:34
in
14:34
Montreal.
14:34
Our
14:35
plane
14:35
had
14:35
problems
14:36
getting
14:36
out
14:36
of
14:36
Montreal.
14:37
We
14:37
had
14:37
to
14:37
wait
14:38
around
14:38
at
14:38
the
14:38
airport.
14:39
We
14:39
all
14:39
watched
14:40
that
14:40
walk
14:40
on
14:40
the
14:41
moon
14:41
and
14:41
it
14:41
happened
14:42
56,
14:43
whatever
14:44
years
14:44
it
14:44
is
14:44
on
14:45
this
14:45
day
14:45
back
14:45
in
14:46
1969.
14:47
Right?
14:48
A
14:48
historic
14:49
day.
14:50
Another
14:50
historic
14:51
day
14:51
in
14:51
1969.
14:52
Art.
14:53
I
14:53
was
14:53
checking
14:53
out
14:53
the
14:54
website
14:54
earlier,
14:54
artshamsky.com
14:56
and
14:57
folks,
14:57
you
14:57
can
14:58
get
14:58
a
14:58
lot
14:58
more
14:59
than
14:59
the
14:59
signed
15:00
books.
15:00
The
15:00
signed
15:00
books
15:01
are
15:01
available
15:01
there,
15:02
but
15:03
the
15:03
holidays
15:03
are
15:03
coming
15:04
up
15:04
and
15:04
there's
15:05
some
15:05
great
15:05
gift
15:06
ideas
15:07
for
15:07
your
15:07
baseball
15:08
fan
15:08
there.
15:09
There's
15:09
a
15:10
lithograph
15:11
with
15:11
Art
15:11
Chamsky
15:12
and
15:13
the
15:13
bulldog
15:14
from
15:15
Everybody
15:15
Loves
15:16
Raymond,
15:16
a
15:16
great
15:16
signed
15:17
lithograph.
15:18
And
15:18
then
15:19
what
15:19
I
15:19
saw
15:19
that
15:19
was
15:20
amazing
15:20
was
15:20
there's
15:21
a
15:21
signed
15:22
original
15:23
Israel
15:23
League
15:24
Baseball.
15:25
And
15:26
maybe
15:26
some
15:27
of
15:27
the
15:27
folks
15:27
don't
15:27
realize
15:28
that.
15:28
You
15:28
managed
15:29
in
15:29
Israel,
15:29
Art.
15:30
Yeah,
15:31
I
15:31
did.
15:31
2007,
15:32
Bill.
15:32
It
15:33
was
15:33
a
15:33
inaugural
15:34
season
15:34
for
15:35
baseball.
15:36
The
15:36
Israel
15:36
Baseball
15:37
League,
15:37
unfortunately
15:38
only
15:38
lasted
15:39
one
15:39
year,
15:39
was
15:40
not
15:40
put
15:40
together
15:42
really
15:42
well,
15:42
and
15:43
ran
15:43
out
15:43
of
15:43
funds,
15:44
mismanagement.
15:45
The
15:45
reality
15:46
of
15:46
it
15:46
is
15:46
it
15:46
was
15:46
the
15:46
beginning
15:47
of
15:47
baseball
15:48
becoming
15:49
interesting
15:49
to
15:49
fans
15:50
and
15:50
people
15:50
back
15:51
in
15:51
that
15:51
country.
15:52
There
15:53
was
15:53
really
15:53
not
15:54
many
15:54
really
15:54
good
15:55
fields.
15:55
It
15:55
was
15:56
prehistoric,
15:57
for
15:57
lack
15:58
of
15:58
a
15:58
better
15:58
word.
15:58
It
15:58
was
15:59
not
15:59
great
16:00
baseball.
16:00
But
16:00
I
16:00
really
16:01
enjoyed
16:01
my
16:01
time
16:01
there.
16:02
I
16:02
met
16:02
a
16:02
lot
16:03
of
16:03
people,
16:03
learned
16:03
a
16:04
lot
16:04
about
16:05
the
16:05
state
16:05
of
16:05
Israel
16:06
and
16:06
surrounding
16:06
areas,
16:07
and
16:07
was
16:08
very
16:08
educational
16:09
for
16:09
me.
16:09
And
16:10
I
16:10
believe
16:11
those
16:11
of
16:11
us
16:11
who
16:11
are
16:12
part
16:12
of
16:12
that
16:12
league.
16:12
And
16:13
again,
16:13
even
16:13
though
16:13
it
16:14
lasted
16:14
one
16:14
year,
16:14
it
16:15
was
16:15
very
16:15
significant.
16:16
But
16:16
I
16:16
do
16:16
believe
16:17
it
16:17
was
16:17
the
16:17
beginning
16:17
of
16:18
Israel
16:19
taking
16:19
notice
16:19
and
16:20
wanting
16:20
to
16:20
develop
16:20
the
16:21
game
16:21
of
16:21
baseball.
16:22
And
16:22
that
16:23
since
16:23
then,
16:23
they
16:23
built
16:24
some
16:24
fields,
16:24
they
16:24
built
16:25
some
16:25
stadiums,
16:25
and
16:25
they've
16:26
done
16:26
really
16:26
well
16:27
in
16:27
the
16:27
World
16:27
Baseball
16:28
Classic
16:28
and
16:28
the
16:29
Olympics.
16:29
And
16:29
so
16:30
I
16:30
think
16:30
all
16:30
of
16:30
us
16:30
who
16:31
were
16:31
there
16:31
initially
16:32
really
16:33
were
16:33
catalysts
16:34
in
16:34
them
16:34
deciding
16:35
that
16:35
they
16:35
wanted
16:35
to
16:35
develop
16:36
the
16:36
game.
16:37
And
16:37
to
16:37
their
16:37
credit,
16:38
they've
16:38
got
16:38
some
16:38
good
16:39
players
16:39
now
16:39
in
16:39
the
16:40
big
16:40
leagues,
16:40
a
16:40
number
16:40
of
16:41
players
16:42
who.
16:44
Either
16:45
were.
16:45
Born
16:46
there
16:46
or
16:47
played
16:47
in
16:48
subsequent
16:48
leagues.
16:49
So
16:49
I
16:49
think
16:49
they're
16:50
really
16:50
developing
16:50
the
16:51
game
16:51
there,
16:51
and
16:51
they
16:51
want
16:52
to
16:52
be
16:52
a
16:52
factor
16:52
in
16:52
international
16:53
baseball,
16:54
and
16:54
I
16:54
think
16:54
they're
16:54
becoming
16:55
that.
16:56
We're
16:56
speaking
16:56
with
16:56
Art
16:56
Shamsky
16:57
tonight
16:57
on
16:58
Sports
16:58
Talk
16:58
New
16:59
York.
16:59
Now,
16:59
if
16:59
you'd
17:00
like
17:00
to
17:00
meet
17:00
Art,
17:01
you
17:01
have
17:02
a
17:02
great
17:02
opportunity
17:03
to
17:03
do
17:03
so.
17:04
It's
17:04
coming
17:04
up
17:05
this
17:05
Tuesday,
17:06
July
17:06
22,
17:07
and
17:08
it's
17:08
at
17:08
the
17:08
great
17:08
Donovan's
17:09
in
17:10
Woodside.
17:10
Tell
17:11
the
17:11
folks
17:11
a
17:11
little
17:11
bit
17:11
about
17:12
that,
17:12
Art.
17:12
Yeah,
17:13
I'm
17:13
looking
17:13
forward
17:13
to
17:14
that.
17:14
Donovan's
17:15
is
17:15
a
17:15
great
17:15
place,
17:17
and
17:18
it
17:18
really
17:18
is
17:18
a
17:19
nice
17:19
place
17:19
to
17:19
meet
17:20
and
17:20
be
17:21
around
17:21
people
17:21
and.
17:22
And
17:22
Bill
17:23
Donahue
17:24
and
17:24
Donovan,
17:24
that's
17:24
a
17:25
little
17:25
close
17:25
connection
17:25
there.
17:26
I'm
17:26
hoping
17:26
you
17:27
might
17:27
stop
17:27
in
17:27
and
17:28
have
17:28
a
17:28
little
17:29
pop
17:29
with
17:29
me,
17:30
maybe
17:30
a
17:30
little
17:30
beer
17:30
or
17:31
something.
17:31
Have
17:31
a
17:31
pint.
17:32
Sure.
17:32
Yeah,
17:34
folks,
17:34
I'm
17:35
looking
17:35
forward
17:35
to
17:35
it.
17:36
Because
17:36
it's
17:36
a
17:37
big
17:37
Mets
17:37
territory,
17:38
big.
17:38
A
17:38
lot
17:38
of
17:38
Met
17:39
fans,
17:39
and
17:39
I
17:40
really
17:40
enjoy
17:40
talking
17:41
to
17:41
people
17:41
and
17:42
reminiscing
17:43
with
17:44
people
17:44
about
17:45
1969.
17:47
And
17:48
it's.
17:48
I'm
17:49
looking
17:49
forward
17:49
to
17:49
it.
17:51
Yeah.
17:51
Yeah.
17:51
Let
17:52
me.
17:52
You
17:52
know
17:52
the
17:52
address,
17:52
right?
17:53
Bill,
17:53
Let
17:53
me
17:53
give
17:53
you
17:53
the
17:54
address
17:54
just
17:54
in
17:54
case
17:54
people
17:54
might.
17:55
Sure.
17:55
Go
17:55
ahead,
17:56
Art.
17:56
Yeah.
17:56
57245724
18:00
Roosevelt
18:00
Avenue
18:01
in
18:01
Woodside,
18:02
Queens.
18:03
And
18:04
so
18:04
it's,
18:04
again,
18:05
it's
18:05
a
18:05
big,
18:06
big
18:06
Met
18:07
hangout.
18:07
And
18:09
that's
18:09
not
18:09
to
18:09
say
18:09
that
18:10
if
18:10
you
18:10
follow
18:10
other
18:10
teams,
18:11
you
18:11
can't
18:11
come
18:11
in
18:11
and
18:11
have
18:12
a
18:12
drink
18:12
and
18:12
say
18:12
hello.
18:12
But
18:13
I
18:13
know
18:13
a
18:13
lot
18:13
of
18:14
Met
18:14
fans
18:14
will
18:14
be
18:14
there.
18:14
I'm
18:15
really
18:15
looking
18:15
forward
18:15
to
18:15
it.
18:16
It's
18:16
great,
18:16
folks.
18:17
You
18:17
get
18:17
off
18:17
the
18:18
7
18:18
train
18:19
or
18:19
the
18:19
Long
18:19
Island
18:19
Railroad
18:20
in
18:20
Woodside,
18:21
head
18:21
down
18:22
to
18:22
the
18:22
street.
18:23
Donovan's
18:24
is
18:24
right
18:24
there.
18:25
Get
18:25
yourself
18:26
a
18:26
French
18:26
onion
18:27
soup
18:27
or
18:27
one
18:28
of
18:28
the
18:28
best
18:28
burgers
18:29
in
18:29
Manhattan
18:30
or
18:31
in
18:31
New
18:31
York
18:32
City.
18:32
Sounds
18:32
like
18:32
you've
18:33
been
18:33
there
18:33
before,
18:33
Bill.
18:34
Oh,
18:34
yeah,
18:35
I
18:35
must
18:36
confess.
18:36
Yeah,
18:37
I've
18:37
had
18:37
a
18:37
pint
18:37
or
18:38
two
18:38
there
18:38
now.
18:39
Now,
18:39
will
18:39
you
18:39
have
18:39
your
18:40
books
18:40
with
18:40
you?
18:41
I
18:41
will.
18:41
I'm
18:42
going
18:42
to
18:42
have
18:42
some
18:42
books
18:42
and
18:43
some
18:43
photos
18:44
and
18:44
some
18:44
of
18:44
the
18:44
memorabilia
18:45
you
18:45
mentioned
18:46
before.
18:46
I
18:47
find
18:47
people
18:47
are
18:47
really
18:48
interested
18:48
in
18:48
some
18:48
of
18:49
the
18:49
old
18:49
pictures
18:50
I
18:50
have
18:51
to
18:52
show
18:52
myself
18:53
with
18:53
a
18:53
couple
18:54
of
18:54
teammates.
18:54
And
18:55
again,
18:55
you
18:56
mentioned
18:56
the
18:56
one
18:56
with
18:56
everybody
18:57
loves
18:57
Raymond
18:57
and
18:58
the
18:58
dog
18:58
and
18:59
a
18:59
lot
18:59
of
18:59
people
19:00
talking
19:00
to
19:00
me
19:00
about
19:01
when
19:01
I
19:02
appeared
19:02
on
19:02
that
19:02
program
19:03
way
19:03
back
19:03
in
19:04
1999.
19:05
And
19:05
I
19:06
still
19:06
have
19:06
people
19:06
coming
19:06
up
19:07
to
19:07
me
19:07
and
19:07
said,
19:07
you
19:07
know,
19:07
they
19:07
named
19:08
a
19:08
dog
19:08
after
19:08
you,
19:09
everybody
19:09
that
19:09
was
19:09
Raymond.
19:10
And
19:10
I
19:10
tell
19:10
them,
19:10
yeah,
19:11
we
19:11
did
19:11
it,
19:12
what,
19:12
26
19:13
years
19:13
ago.
19:14
And,
19:15
you
19:15
know,
19:16
I
19:16
get
19:16
a
19:16
kick
19:16
out
19:17
of
19:17
it
19:17
because
19:17
it
19:17
was
19:17
such
19:18
a
19:18
great
19:18
experience
19:18
for
19:19
me.
19:19
But,
19:19
you
19:19
know,
19:19
the
19:20
reality
19:20
of
19:20
it,
19:20
Joe,
19:21
is
19:21
all
19:21
these
19:21
things
19:21
I've
19:22
done
19:22
over
19:23
the
19:23
years
19:23
wouldn't
19:23
have
19:23
happened
19:24
if
19:24
I
19:24
wasn't
19:24
part
19:25
of
19:25
that
19:25
69
19:26
Met
19:26
team
19:27
being
19:27
on
19:27
the
19:28
Ed
19:28
Sullivan
19:28
show,
19:29
singing
19:30
out
19:30
in
19:30
Vegas
19:30
for
19:32
17
19:32
days
19:33
after
19:33
we
19:33
won
19:33
the
19:34
world
19:34
series,
19:34
the
19:34
Dick
19:35
Cavett
19:35
show,
19:36
doing
19:36
Sesame
19:36
street
19:37
with
19:37
Eddie
19:37
Crane,
19:38
pool.
19:38
I
19:38
mean,
19:38
the
19:39
list
19:39
goes
19:39
on
19:39
and
19:39
on,
19:41
really,
19:41
because
19:41
I
19:41
was
19:42
part
19:42
of
19:42
that
19:42
team
19:42
that
19:43
is
19:43
so
19:43
special
19:44
and
19:44
again,
19:45
lives
19:45
on
19:45
forever.
19:46
For
19:46
me,
19:47
it
19:48
really
19:49
is
19:49
a
19:49
big
19:49
part
19:50
of
19:50
my
19:50
life.
19:51
You
19:51
know,
19:51
one
19:51
of
19:51
the
19:51
things
19:52
I
19:52
get,
19:52
Bill,
19:52
and
19:53
I
19:53
think
19:53
you
19:53
can
19:53
appreciate,
19:54
is
19:54
that
19:54
I
19:54
get
19:54
people
19:55
always
19:55
saying
19:55
to
19:56
me,
19:56
don't
19:56
you
19:56
wish
19:56
you
19:56
were
19:57
playing
19:57
now
19:57
and
19:57
making
19:58
the
19:58
money
19:58
they're
19:58
making
19:59
now?
19:59
And
19:59
my
19:59
first
19:59
reaction
20:00
is,
20:00
of
20:00
course.
20:01
Of
20:01
course
20:03
everybody
20:03
wants
20:04
to
20:04
be
20:04
making
20:04
all
20:04
that
20:04
money.
20:05
But
20:05
I
20:06
think
20:06
the
20:06
reality
20:07
of
20:07
it
20:07
is
20:07
I
20:07
wouldn't
20:07
trade
20:08
for
20:08
that
20:08
world
20:08
series
20:09
ring.
20:09
I've
20:09
got
20:10
one
20:10
of
20:10
just
20:11
a
20:11
few
20:11
people
20:11
that
20:11
has
20:12
that
20:12
wonderful
20:13
world
20:13
series
20:13
ring
20:14
from
20:14
1969.
20:15
But
20:15
just
20:15
as
20:15
important
20:16
as
20:16
I
20:16
played
20:16
with
20:17
and
20:17
against,
20:18
I
20:18
think,
20:18
the
20:18
greatest
20:19
conglomerate
20:19
of
20:20
players
20:20
in
20:20
the
20:20
history
20:20
of
20:21
the
20:21
game
20:21
in
20:22
the
20:22
60s
20:22
and
20:22
early
20:23
70s,
20:23
from
20:24
Willie
20:24
Mays
20:25
to
20:25
Aaron,
20:26
Hank
20:26
Aaron
20:27
to
20:27
Roberto
20:27
clemente
20:28
to
20:29
Willie
20:29
stargell
20:30
to
20:30
bcovey
20:31
to
20:31
bench
20:32
Robinson,
20:33
Rose,
20:33
Perez,
20:34
I
20:34
mean,
20:34
the
20:34
list
20:35
goes
20:35
on
20:35
and
20:35
on.
20:35
And
20:36
all
20:36
the
20:36
great
20:37
pitchers,
20:37
Koufax,
20:38
Drysdale,
20:38
Marisol
20:39
Gibson,
20:40
Carlton
20:41
Seaver,
20:42
Jim
20:43
Bunning,
20:44
I
20:45
can
20:45
go
20:45
on
20:45
and
20:45
on.
20:46
This
20:46
is
20:46
just
20:46
the
20:46
national
20:47
league.
20:47
So
20:47
for
20:48
me
20:48
to
20:48
be
20:48
able
20:48
to
20:48
talk
20:49
about
20:49
that
20:50
time
20:50
with
20:50
all
20:50
those
20:51
great
20:51
players
20:51
and
20:52
sharing
20:52
those
20:52
moments
20:53
is
20:53
always
20:53
going
20:53
to
20:53
be
20:53
Special.
20:54
And
20:54
so
20:55
that's
20:55
how
20:55
I
20:56
rationalize
20:57
in
20:57
my
20:57
mind
20:57
that,
20:57
yeah,
20:58
I
20:58
would
20:58
love
20:58
to
20:59
be
20:59
playing
20:59
now.
20:59
It's
21:00
unbelievable
21:00
to
21:01
be
21:01
a
21:02
big
21:02
league
21:02
player
21:02
at
21:03
this
21:03
point,
21:03
making
21:03
all
21:03
the
21:03
money
21:04
they're
21:04
making,
21:04
but
21:05
I
21:05
wouldn't
21:05
trade
21:06
it
21:06
for
21:06
the
21:06
life
21:06
I've
21:06
got.
21:07
So
21:07
I've
21:07
got
21:07
no
21:07
complaints.
21:08
No,
21:09
it
21:09
certainly
21:09
was
21:09
a
21:10
golden
21:10
age,
21:11
the
21:11
60s
21:12
and
21:12
70s.
21:12
Art,
21:13
you're
21:14
definitely
21:14
right
21:14
there.
21:15
So
21:15
that's
21:16
Tuesday
21:16
the
21:17
20th,
21:17
folks,
21:17
at
21:18
Donovan's
21:18
down
21:19
there
21:19
in
21:19
Woodside.
21:20
Also,
21:21
the
21:21
Mets
21:21
are
21:21
playing
21:21
the
21:22
Angels
21:22
that
21:22
night
21:23
at
21:23
Citi
21:23
Field,
21:24
so
21:24
it's
21:24
perfect
21:25
to
21:25
stop
21:25
by
21:25
for
21:26
a
21:26
pregame.
21:26
Neil,
21:27
what
21:27
else
21:27
you
21:28
got
21:28
coming
21:28
up?
21:28
Art?
21:29
Well,
21:29
I
21:30
got,
21:30
you
21:30
know,
21:30
I'm
21:30
just
21:31
always
21:31
doing
21:31
some
21:32
personal
21:32
appearances,
21:33
Bill,
21:33
but.
21:34
And
21:34
signings
21:34
and
21:36
the
21:36
usual
21:36
stuff.
21:38
Never
21:38
gets
21:38
old.
21:39
I
21:39
just,
21:41
you
21:41
know,
21:41
it's
21:42
really,
21:42
for
21:43
me,
21:43
always
21:44
something
21:44
comes
21:44
up
21:45
at
21:45
the
21:45
last
21:45
minute.
21:46
But
21:46
I've
21:46
got
21:46
things
21:47
going
21:47
on
21:47
that.
21:48
But
21:49
I'm
21:49
looking
21:49
forward
21:49
to
21:50
Tuesday.
21:50
That's
21:50
the
21:50
big
21:50
thing
21:51
coming
21:51
up.
21:51
That'll
21:51
be
21:52
great.
21:52
Yeah.
21:52
Now,
21:53
people
21:53
are
21:53
always
21:54
asking,
21:54
Art,
21:55
how
21:55
are
21:56
the
21:56
Miracle
21:56
Mets
21:57
doing
21:57
these
21:57
days?
21:57
Have
21:58
you
21:58
spoken
21:58
to
21:58
any
21:59
of
21:59
the
21:59
guys
21:59
lately
22:00
and
22:01
how
22:01
are
22:01
they
22:01
doing?
22:03
Well,
22:03
I
22:03
follow
22:03
the
22:03
team,
22:04
you
22:04
know,
22:05
they've
22:05
got
22:05
a
22:06
pretty
22:06
good
22:06
team.
22:07
I
22:07
think
22:07
pitching
22:08
is
22:08
really
22:08
going
22:09
to
22:09
be
22:09
the
22:09
key
22:09
to
22:09
the
22:10
second
22:10
half
22:11
of
22:11
the
22:11
season.
22:11
And
22:11
of
22:11
course,
22:12
defense
22:12
is
22:12
always
22:13
important,
22:13
but
22:14
the
22:14
way
22:14
the
22:14
game
22:14
is
22:14
now,
22:15
Bill,
22:15
it's
22:15
a
22:15
little
22:15
different
22:16
than
22:16
when
22:16
I
22:16
played.
22:17
You
22:17
had
22:17
to
22:17
win
22:17
a
22:18
division
22:18
and
22:18
then
22:18
win
22:18
a
22:18
pennant
22:19
and
22:19
then
22:19
get
22:19
into
22:20
World
22:20
Series.
22:20
But
22:21
now
22:21
the
22:21
thing
22:22
about
22:22
it
22:22
is
22:22
just
22:22
make
22:22
the
22:23
playoffs.
22:24
There's
22:24
so
22:25
many
22:25
teams
22:25
make
22:25
the
22:25
playoffs,
22:26
and
22:26
I
22:26
think
22:26
you
22:27
kind
22:27
of
22:27
build
22:27
yourself
22:28
up
22:28
to
22:29
get
22:29
hot
22:29
during
22:30
the
22:30
second
22:30
half
22:31
of
22:31
the
22:31
season
22:31
at
22:31
some
22:32
point.
22:32
And
22:32
if
22:33
you
22:33
can
22:33
get
22:33
into
22:33
the
22:33
playoffs
22:34
and
22:34
there's
22:34
no
22:34
reason
22:34
why
22:35
the
22:35
Mets
22:35
can't
22:35
make
22:35
it
22:36
in
22:36
the
22:36
playoffs
22:36
and
22:37
then
22:37
all
22:37
of
22:37
a
22:37
sudden,
22:38
get
22:38
hot,
22:38
get
22:38
some
22:38
pitching,
22:39
get
22:39
some
22:39
defense,
22:40
timely
22:40
hitting,
22:41
anything
22:41
can
22:41
happen.
22:42
But
22:42
they
22:43
certainly
22:43
have
22:43
a
22:43
decent
22:44
team
22:44
and
22:44
a
22:44
good
22:44
team.
22:45
Well
22:45
enough
22:45
to
22:45
get
22:46
into
22:46
the
22:46
playoffs.
22:46
They
22:47
sure
22:47
do.
22:47
Now,
22:48
your
22:48
teammates,
22:49
the
22:49
69
22:50
Mets,
22:51
any
22:51
of
22:51
those
22:52
guys,
22:53
how
22:53
are
22:53
they
22:54
doing
22:54
these
22:54
days?
22:56
Well,
22:56
you
22:56
know,
22:56
again,
22:56
we
22:57
lost
22:57
five
22:57
guys
22:58
last
22:58
year
22:58
and
22:58
one
22:58
guy
22:59
this
22:59
year
22:59
so
22:59
far.
23:00
And
23:00
it's
23:00
been
23:01
tough
23:02
for
23:02
all
23:02
of
23:02
us
23:02
who
23:02
are
23:03
still
23:03
around
23:03
to
23:03
lose
23:04
friends
23:04
like
23:04
that
23:04
and
23:05
teammates
23:05
who
23:05
were
23:06
so
23:06
special.
23:09
You
23:09
know,
23:09
you
23:09
get
23:09
older,
23:10
Bill,
23:10
it's,
23:10
it's,
23:12
it's,
23:12
it
23:12
is
23:12
what
23:13
it
23:13
is.
23:13
Those
23:14
phone
23:14
calls,
23:14
not
23:14
always
23:15
great
23:15
phone
23:15
calls,
23:16
and
23:16
you
23:16
deal
23:17
with
23:17
it,
23:17
but
23:18
in
23:18
My
23:18
case,
23:18
I'm
23:19
still
23:20
around
23:20
and
23:20
hopefully
23:21
still
23:21
going
23:21
to
23:21
be
23:21
able
23:22
to
23:22
do
23:22
things
23:22
and
23:23
share
23:23
moments
23:23
with
23:24
fans
23:24
out
23:24
there.
23:24
But
23:26
the
23:26
guys
23:26
that
23:26
are
23:27
still
23:27
around
23:27
are
23:27
doing
23:28
okay.
23:28
I
23:28
talked
23:29
to
23:29
Jerry
23:29
Kooseman
23:30
all
23:30
the
23:30
time.
23:30
Kenny
23:31
Boswell's
23:31
down
23:31
in
23:32
Austin,
23:32
touches,
23:32
Ron
23:32
Shibota
23:34
and
23:34
I
23:34
do
23:34
some
23:34
things
23:35
together.
23:35
And
23:36
it's
23:36
always
23:36
great
23:36
to
23:36
see
23:37
Ronnie
23:37
and
23:38
a
23:38
couple
23:38
of
23:38
the
23:38
other
23:38
guys.
23:39
Rod
23:39
Gasper's
23:40
still
23:40
around,
23:40
Duffy
23:40
Dyer
23:41
still
23:41
around,
23:42
Jason
23:42
Martin's
23:43
still
23:43
around.
23:43
We've
23:43
got
23:44
about
23:44
13
23:45
or
23:45
14
23:45
guys
23:46
still
23:46
around,
23:47
but
23:48
we
23:48
lost
23:48
a
23:48
lot
23:48
of
23:49
great
23:49
teammates
23:50
and
23:50
all
23:50
the
23:51
coaches
23:51
and
23:51
of
23:51
course,
23:51
our
23:52
wonderful
23:52
manager,
23:52
Gil
23:53
Hodges.
23:53
But,
23:54
you
23:54
know,
23:55
it's.
23:55
You
23:56
just
23:56
keep
23:56
plugging
23:57
away
23:57
and
23:57
you're
23:58
thankful
23:58
for
23:58
those
23:58
moments
23:59
you're
23:59
sharing
23:59
together.
24:00
You
24:01
know,
24:01
it's
24:01
funny,
24:01
people
24:02
always
24:02
say
24:02
to
24:02
me,
24:02
do
24:03
you
24:03
miss
24:03
the
24:03
game?
24:04
And
24:04
the
24:04
reality
24:05
of
24:05
it
24:05
is,
24:06
I
24:06
do
24:06
miss
24:06
the
24:06
game,
24:08
but
24:08
I
24:08
miss
24:08
the
24:09
locker
24:09
room.
24:09
I
24:09
miss
24:09
the
24:10
clubhouse.
24:10
I
24:10
miss
24:10
those
24:11
shared
24:11
moments
24:12
where
24:14
you
24:15
shared
24:15
these
24:15
intimate
24:16
times
24:16
with
24:16
guys
24:17
on
24:17
and
24:17
off
24:17
the
24:17
field.
24:18
Those
24:18
zero
24:19
for
24:19
fours
24:19
that
24:19
were
24:20
shared
24:20
and
24:20
those
24:20
two
24:21
for
24:21
fours
24:21
were
24:22
shared.
24:22
And
24:23
just
24:23
those
24:23
moments
24:24
that
24:24
you
24:24
have
24:25
on
24:25
and
24:25
off
24:26
the
24:26
field,
24:26
to
24:26
me,
24:26
were
24:26
always
24:27
going
24:27
to
24:27
be
24:27
special.
24:27
And
24:28
when
24:28
we
24:28
lose
24:29
guys
24:29
on
24:29
teams
24:30
that
24:30
play
24:30
for
24:30
us,
24:31
especially
24:31
the
24:31
69
24:31
meters,
24:32
because
24:32
they
24:33
were
24:33
so
24:33
special,
24:33
it's
24:34
always
24:34
a
24:34
difficult
24:34
time,
24:35
right?
24:35
But
24:36
they
24:36
live
24:36
on,
24:36
Art.
24:37
They
24:37
live
24:37
on
24:38
through
24:38
guys
24:39
like
24:39
you
24:39
who
24:39
proliferate
24:40
the
24:40
memory
24:41
of
24:41
the
24:41
team
24:42
and
24:42
those
24:43
guys.
24:43
And
24:44
that's
24:44
really
24:45
appreciated
24:46
by
24:46
fans
24:46
like
24:47
me.
24:47
And
24:47
I'm
24:47
sure
24:48
the
24:48
fans
24:48
that
24:49
you
24:49
meet
24:49
feel
24:50
the
24:50
same
24:50
way.
24:51
They're
24:51
not
24:51
really
24:52
gone
24:52
because
24:53
their
24:53
memory
24:54
and
24:54
their
24:54
legends
24:55
live
24:55
on.
24:56
You
24:56
know,
24:57
Bill,
24:57
I
24:57
always
24:57
tell
24:57
people
24:58
there's
24:58
two
24:58
teams
24:59
in
24:59
the
24:59
history
24:59
of
24:59
the
25:00
game
25:00
that
25:00
resonate
25:01
with
25:01
fans
25:01
years
25:02
after
25:02
they
25:02
won,
25:02
and
25:03
one
25:03
of
25:03
them
25:03
is
25:03
going
25:03
to
25:03
be
25:04
100
25:04
years
25:04
in
25:04
two
25:04
years.
25:05
And
25:05
that's
25:05
the
25:05
27
25:06
Yankees
25:07
with
25:07
Babe
25:07
Ruth
25:07
and
25:07
Lou
25:08
Gehrig
25:08
and
25:08
that
25:09
great
25:09
cast
25:09
of
25:10
players
25:10
they
25:10
had.
25:10
But
25:10
the
25:11
others
25:11
are
25:11
69
25:11
Mets.
25:12
We're
25:12
now
25:12
56
25:13
years
25:13
later,
25:14
and
25:14
people
25:14
still
25:14
talk
25:15
about
25:15
that
25:15
team.
25:15
And
25:15
I
25:16
think
25:16
it'll
25:16
be
25:16
one
25:17
of
25:17
these
25:17
teams
25:17
that
25:17
for
25:18
years
25:18
from
25:18
now,
25:19
people
25:19
will
25:19
still
25:19
talk
25:20
about.
25:20
That
25:20
legacy
25:21
have
25:21
been
25:21
passed
25:22
on
25:22
from
25:22
generation
25:22
to
25:23
generation.
25:23
And
25:24
it's
25:24
what
25:24
I
25:24
mentioned
25:25
before,
25:25
it's
25:25
because
25:26
of
25:26
where
25:26
we
25:26
came
25:27
from,
25:27
being
25:27
a
25:27
bad
25:28
fan,
25:28
what
25:29
was
25:29
going
25:29
on
25:30
in
25:30
the
25:30
world
25:30
at
25:31
the
25:31
time
25:32
and
25:32
what
25:32
we
25:32
accomplished.
25:33
And
25:33
then,
25:33
of
25:34
course,
25:34
beating
25:34
that
25:34
terrific
25:35
Baltimore
25:35
Orioles
25:36
team
25:36
that
25:36
had
25:37
great
25:37
players
25:38
and
25:39
losing
25:39
that
25:39
first
25:39
game.
25:40
And
25:40
I
25:40
incidentally,
25:41
made
25:41
the
25:41
last
25:41
out
25:41
of
25:42
that
25:42
first
25:42
game,
25:43
which
25:43
I
25:43
talk
25:43
about
25:44
occasionally
25:44
because
25:45
it's
25:45
one
25:45
at
25:46
bat
25:46
I
25:46
think
25:46
about
25:46
every
25:47
day
25:47
of
25:47
my
25:47
life.
25:48
I
25:48
came
25:48
up
25:48
in
25:49
the
25:49
ninth
25:49
inning
25:50
and
25:50
grounded
25:51
out
25:51
the
25:51
second
25:51
base
25:51
to
25:51
end
25:52
the
25:52
game,
25:52
but
25:52
everybody
25:53
thought
25:53
we
25:53
were
25:53
going
25:54
to
25:54
lose
25:54
four
25:54
in
25:54
a
25:54
row
25:54
and
25:55
we
25:55
ended
25:55
up
25:55
winning
25:55
the
25:55
next
25:56
four.
25:56
So
25:57
I
25:57
think
25:57
all
25:58
those
25:58
factors
25:58
come
25:58
into
25:59
play
25:59
as
25:59
why
25:59
that
26:00
team
26:00
so
26:01
resonates
26:01
with
26:01
fans
26:02
so
26:02
many
26:02
years
26:02
later.
26:03
And
26:03
I
26:03
think
26:03
it
26:04
will
26:04
continue
26:04
to
26:04
resonate
26:05
because
26:06
that
26:06
legend,
26:07
that
26:07
legend
26:07
and
26:07
those
26:08
stories
26:08
will
26:08
be
26:08
passed
26:09
on
26:09
from
26:09
generation
26:10
to
26:10
generation.
26:11
That's
26:11
right.
26:11
And
26:12
kids,
26:12
just
26:12
think
26:13
about
26:13
it.
26:15
The
26:15
United
26:16
States
26:16
and
26:16
mankind
26:17
in
26:17
general
26:18
walked
26:18
on
26:18
the
26:18
moon
26:19
today
26:19
for
26:19
the
26:19
first
26:20
time
26:20
ever.
26:21
And
26:21
a
26:22
couple
26:22
of
26:22
months
26:22
later,
26:23
the
26:23
New
26:23
York
26:24
Mets
26:24
are
26:24
world
26:24
champions.
26:25
So
26:27
as
26:27
Art
26:27
and
26:28
I
26:28
said
26:28
earlier,
26:29
what
26:29
else
26:29
do
26:30
you
26:30
need
26:30
in
26:30
1969?
26:32
Maybe
26:33
Woodstock.
26:36
It
26:36
was
26:36
a
26:36
tremendous
26:37
year.
26:38
And
26:38
Art,
26:39
it's
26:39
always
26:40
a
26:40
pleasure
26:40
to
26:40
talk
26:41
to
26:41
you.
26:41
I
26:41
thank
26:41
you
26:41
for
26:42
taking
26:42
time
26:42
out
26:42
of
26:43
your
26:43
Sunday
26:43
night
26:43
to
26:44
spend
26:44
it
26:44
with
26:44
us
26:44
here
26:44
at
26:45
Sports
26:45
Talk
26:45
New
26:46
York.
26:47
The
26:47
best
26:47
to
26:47
you
26:47
and
26:47
Theresa.
26:48
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26:48
the
26:48
legends
26:49
of
26:49
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26:51
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26:51
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26:52
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26:52
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26:53
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26:53
Met
26:54
Stories
26:55
I
26:55
Only
26:55
Tell
26:55
My
26:56
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26:56
available
26:57
on
26:57
Amazon
26:58
or
26:58
on
26:59
artshamsky.com
27:01
where
27:01
there's
27:01
some
27:01
great
27:02
items
27:02
available.
27:03
Donovan's
27:04
in
27:04
Woodside
27:05
Tuesday
27:05
night.
27:05
Art
27:06
Shamsky,
27:07
before
27:07
you
27:07
head
27:07
out
27:08
to
27:08
the
27:08
Mets
27:08
game,
27:09
stop
27:09
by,
27:10
have
27:10
a
27:10
burger,
27:11
shake
27:11
hands
27:11
with
27:12
Art
27:12
Shamsky,
27:13
get
27:13
one
27:13
of
27:14
his
27:14
signed
27:14
books.
27:15
And
27:15
Art,
27:15
once
27:16
again,
27:16
thank
27:16
you.
27:17
My
27:18
pleasure,
27:18
Bill.
27:18
It's
27:18
always
27:19
great
27:19
talking
27:19
to
27:19
you.
27:19
Stay
27:20
well.
27:20
That
27:20
is
27:20
the
27:21
great
27:21
Art
27:21
Shamsky,
27:22
ladies
27:22
and
27:22
gentlemen.
27:23
Up
27:23
next
27:23
on
27:23
Sports
27:24
Talk
27:24
New
27:24
York,
27:25
we'll
27:25
talk
27:25
to
27:26
Chris
27:26
Donnelly,
27:27
another
27:28
great
27:28
author,
27:28
about
27:29
his
27:29
book
27:30
on
27:30
the
27:30
road
27:30
to
27:31
the
27:31
2000
27:31
subway
27:32
series.
27:33
So
27:33
stick
27:33
around,
27:33
folks.
27:52
You
27:52
are
27:53
listening
27:53
to
27:53
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27:54
Talk
27:54
New
27:54
York.
27:55
Tune
27:55
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27:55
every
27:55
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27:56
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27:56
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27:56
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27:56
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27:57
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29:02
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are
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29:10
downtown
29:10
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29:10
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29:11
Island,
29:11
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29:12
York.
29:13
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29:13
it's
29:13
the
29:13
first
29:14
week
29:14
back
29:14
from
29:14
the
29:14
All
29:15
Star
29:15
break.
29:16
It's
29:16
really
29:16
the
29:16
first
29:17
year.
29:17
I
29:17
really
29:17
watched
29:18
almost
29:18
all
29:19
the
29:19
events.
29:19
No
29:20
red
29:20
carpet.
29:21
You'll
29:21
never
29:22
get
29:22
me
29:22
to
29:22
watch
29:22
that.
29:23
The
29:23
softball
29:24
game
29:24
is
29:25
embarrassing.
29:26
They
29:26
need
29:26
to
29:26
bring
29:27
in
29:27
the
29:28
Savannah
29:28
Bananas
29:29
or
29:29
somebody
29:30
else
29:30
to
29:30
fill
29:30
that
29:31
slot.
29:31
The
29:32
celebrity
29:33
softball,
29:34
I
29:35
know
29:35
none
29:35
of
29:35
the
29:35
celebrities.
29:36
Maybe
29:36
I'm
29:37
out
29:37
of
29:37
touch,
29:37
but
29:38
I
29:38
knew
29:39
Jenny
29:40
Finch
29:40
and
29:40
Cece
29:41
Zabathia.
29:42
The
29:42
rest
29:43
have
29:43
no
29:43
idea.
29:44
All
29:45
the
29:45
Mets
29:45
got
29:45
into
29:46
the
29:46
game,
29:46
of
29:47
course.
29:47
Pete
29:47
with
29:47
a
29:47
three
29:48
run
29:48
homer
29:50
at
29:50
the
29:50
end,
29:50
the
29:51
game
29:51
was
29:51
tied.
29:51
So
29:52
they
29:52
have
29:52
what's
29:52
called
29:52
the
29:53
swing
29:53
off
29:53
now.
29:54
To
29:54
me,
29:54
that
29:54
sounds
29:54
like
29:55
something
29:55
extramarital.
29:57
They
29:57
should
29:58
come
29:58
up
29:58
with
29:58
another
29:58
word
29:59
for
29:59
that.
29:59
Of
29:59
course,
30:00
Schwaber
30:01
got
30:01
all
30:01
the
30:01
accolades
30:02
for
30:02
his
30:03
three
30:03
bombs
30:04
and
30:04
that.
30:04
I'm
30:05
kind
30:05
of
30:05
glad
30:05
that
30:06
Pete
30:07
didn't
30:07
have
30:07
to
30:07
hit,
30:08
though.
30:08
I
30:08
didn't
30:08
want
30:08
him
30:09
to
30:09
possibly
30:09
embarrass
30:10
himself
30:10
on
30:10
a
30:10
national
30:11
stage.
30:12
Putting
30:13
Jacob
30:14
Misarowski
30:15
on
30:15
the
30:15
team
30:15
after
30:15
five
30:16
games,
30:16
I
30:16
thought
30:17
that
30:17
was
30:17
ridiculous.
30:18
And
30:19
the
30:19
huge
30:19
spotlight
30:20
put
30:20
on
30:20
Paul
30:21
Skeens
30:21
and
30:22
Tarik
30:22
Skubal,
30:24
I
30:24
thought
30:24
that
30:24
was
30:24
kind
30:25
of
30:25
crazy
30:25
as
30:25
well.
30:26
So
30:27
at
30:27
least
30:27
we're
30:27
back
30:28
to
30:28
what
30:28
we
30:29
think
30:29
is
30:29
Normalcy,
30:30
Part
30:30
two
30:31
of
30:31
the
30:31
Season
30:33
and
30:33
On
30:34
the
30:34
Road
30:34
to
30:34
the
30:34
World
30:34
Series.
30:35
Which
30:35
brings
30:36
us
30:36
to
30:36
our
30:37
next
30:37
guest.
30:37
He's
30:38
the
30:38
author
30:38
of
30:38
two
30:39
previous
30:39
books
30:40
that
30:40
take
30:40
a
30:40
detailed
30:41
look
30:42
at
30:42
New
30:42
York
30:42
City
30:43
baseball,
30:43
the
30:43
late
30:44
20th
30:44
century
30:45
Doc,
30:45
Donnie
30:46
the
30:46
Kid
30:46
and
30:46
Billy
30:47
how
30:47
the
30:48
1985
30:48
Mets
30:49
and
30:49
Yankees
30:49
Fought
30:50
for
30:50
New
30:51
York's
30:51
Baseball
30:52
Soul.
30:53
And
30:53
the
30:53
next
30:53
book
30:54
is
30:54
titled
30:54
Road
30:55
to
30:55
the
30:56
early
30:56
1990s
30:57
collapse
30:58
and
30:58
rebuild
30:58
of
30:59
New
30:59
York
30:59
City
30:59
Baseball.
31:00
And
31:00
his
31:00
latest
31:01
book
31:01
is
31:01
called
31:02
get
31:02
yout
31:03
tokens
31:04
the
31:04
late
31:04
1990s
31:05
road
31:06
to
31:06
the
31:06
Subway
31:07
Series.
31:07
I
31:07
welcome
31:08
to
31:08
the
31:08
show
31:08
tonight,
31:09
Chris
31:09
Donnelly.
31:10
Chris,
31:10
good
31:10
evening,
31:12
Bill.
31:12
How
31:12
are
31:12
you?
31:12
Thanks
31:13
for
31:13
having
31:13
me
31:13
on.
31:13
Doing
31:14
fine,
31:14
Chris.
31:14
Now
31:15
give
31:15
us
31:15
a
31:15
little
31:15
background
31:16
on
31:16
yourself,
31:17
where
31:17
you
31:17
grew
31:17
up
31:18
and
31:18
what
31:18
teams
31:18
did
31:19
you
31:19
support
31:19
when
31:20
you
31:20
were
31:20
a
31:20
kid.
31:22
Sure.
31:22
So
31:22
I
31:23
grew
31:23
up
31:23
in
31:23
North
31:24
Jersey
31:24
in
31:24
a
31:25
town
31:25
called
31:25
Pompton
31:26
Lakes,
31:26
about
31:26
20,
31:27
25
31:27
miles
31:28
outside
31:28
of
31:28
New
31:28
York
31:29
City.
31:30
And
31:30
I
31:31
grew
31:31
up,
31:31
and
31:31
I
31:31
fully
31:32
admit
31:32
this,
31:32
it's
31:32
no
31:33
secret.
31:33
I
31:33
grew
31:33
up
31:34
a
31:34
Yankees
31:34
fan
31:35
in
31:35
a
31:35
family
31:35
full
31:36
of
31:36
Mets
31:36
fans.
31:38
I
31:38
guess
31:38
that
31:38
was
31:38
my
31:39
own
31:39
little
31:39
mini
31:39
rebellion.
31:40
But
31:40
yeah,
31:41
I
31:41
grew
31:41
up
31:41
a
31:41
Yankees
31:42
fan
31:42
and
31:42
started
31:42
watching
31:42
them
31:43
when
31:43
they
31:43
were
31:43
terrible.
31:44
Yeah,
31:45
yeah,
31:45
I
31:45
remember
31:45
those
31:46
days.
31:46
Well,
31:47
as
31:47
I
31:48
mentioned
31:48
in
31:48
the
31:48
introduction,
31:49
your
31:50
previous
31:50
books,
31:51
including
31:51
this
31:52
one,
31:52
it's
31:53
a
31:53
trilogy,
31:54
right?
31:56
Yeah.
31:56
It
31:57
didn't
31:57
start
31:57
out
31:57
that
31:57
way,
31:57
but
31:58
it
31:58
ended
31:58
up
31:58
being
31:58
a
31:58
trilogy.
31:59
And
31:59
it
32:00
covers
32:00
New
32:00
York
32:00
city
32:01
baseball
32:01
from
32:01
1985
32:02
to
32:02
2000.
32:04
And
32:04
I
32:04
just
32:05
find
32:05
that
32:05
a
32:05
fascinating
32:06
time
32:06
to
32:07
look
32:07
at
32:07
and
32:07
re
32:08
examine
32:08
both
32:08
teams
32:09
right
32:10
now.
32:10
You
32:11
start
32:11
by
32:11
going
32:12
back
32:12
to
32:12
really
32:13
the
32:13
first
32:14
regular
32:15
season
32:15
meeting
32:16
between
32:16
the
32:17
Yankees
32:17
and
32:17
the
32:17
Mets.
32:18
Let's
32:18
talk
32:19
about
32:19
that.
32:19
We
32:19
have
32:20
the
32:20
famous
32:21
Dave
32:21
Maliki
32:22
game.
32:24
Yeah,
32:25
I
32:25
knew
32:25
when
32:25
I
32:26
was
32:26
starting
32:26
to
32:26
write
32:26
this
32:27
book
32:27
that
32:27
I
32:27
wanted
32:27
to
32:28
open
32:29
with
32:29
the
32:29
Dave
32:29
Maliki
32:30
game
32:31
because
32:32
I
32:32
think
32:32
it
32:32
highlights
32:33
just
32:33
how
32:33
special
32:34
the
32:34
Subway
32:34
Series
32:35
was
32:35
when
32:35
it
32:36
first
32:36
started
32:37
that
32:37
a
32:37
guy
32:37
like
32:37
Dave
32:38
Malicki,
32:38
of
32:38
all
32:39
people
32:39
in
32:39
the
32:39
world,
32:39
is
32:40
the
32:40
first
32:40
pitcher
32:41
to
32:41
pitch
32:41
for
32:41
the
32:42
Mets
32:42
in
32:42
that
32:42
game.
32:43
And
32:43
not
32:43
only
32:43
that,
32:43
but
32:44
he
32:44
ends
32:44
up
32:44
having
32:45
this
32:45
sort
32:45
of
32:45
immortality
32:46
because
32:46
of
32:47
the
32:47
performance
32:47
that
32:47
he
32:47
puts
32:48
in
32:49
going
32:49
pitching
32:50
a
32:50
complete
32:50
game
32:50
shutout.
32:51
And
32:51
David
32:52
Malicki
32:52
still
32:52
gets
32:53
mail
32:53
to
32:53
this
32:53
day
32:53
from
32:54
Mets
32:54
fans
32:54
asking
32:55
him
32:55
to
32:55
sign
32:55
things,
32:55
sign
32:56
newspaper
32:57
headlines
32:57
from
32:57
the
32:57
next
32:58
day.
32:58
And
32:59
I
32:59
just
32:59
think
32:59
that's
32:59
really
32:59
special
33:00
and
33:00
just
33:00
shows
33:00
you
33:00
what
33:00
it
33:01
was
33:01
that
33:01
he
33:01
still,
33:02
30
33:02
years
33:02
later,
33:02
almost
33:03
gets
33:03
remembered
33:03
for
33:04
that.
33:04
It's
33:04
like
33:05
a
33:05
Jimmy
33:05
Qualls
33:06
moment
33:07
noted
33:08
for
33:08
one
33:08
thing.
33:09
And
33:09
he
33:09
will
33:10
live
33:10
on
33:10
forever
33:11
because
33:11
of
33:11
that
33:11
one
33:12
game.
33:12
Now,
33:13
1996,
33:14
the
33:14
season
33:15
ended
33:16
with
33:16
the
33:16
Yankees
33:16
winning
33:17
the
33:17
first
33:17
world
33:18
series
33:18
in
33:19
18
33:19
years.
33:20
And
33:21
they
33:21
got
33:21
their
33:21
parade.
33:22
And
33:23
the
33:23
Mets
33:24
ended
33:25
the
33:25
season.
33:26
They
33:26
were
33:27
really
33:27
struggling
33:27
to
33:28
keep
33:28
managers
33:29
and
33:29
quality
33:30
players,
33:31
and
33:31
they
33:32
had
33:32
controversy
33:33
brewing
33:34
in
33:34
the
33:34
clubhouse
33:34
and
33:34
off
33:35
the
33:35
field.
33:37
Yeah,
33:37
the
33:37
96
33:38
Mets,
33:38
there
33:39
were
33:39
high
33:39
expectations
33:40
going
33:40
in.
33:40
They
33:40
kind
33:41
of
33:41
surprised
33:41
everybody
33:41
by
33:42
finishing
33:42
in
33:42
second
33:42
place
33:43
in
33:43
95.
33:43
And
33:44
so
33:44
people
33:44
were
33:44
really
33:44
excited
33:45
for
33:45
the
33:45
96
33:45
season,
33:46
and
33:46
it
33:46
fell
33:46
apart
33:47
pretty
33:47
quickly.
33:48
They
33:48
finished
33:48
71
33:49
and
33:49
91,
33:49
and
33:50
they
33:50
fired
33:50
their
33:51
manager,
33:51
Dallas
33:51
Green,
33:52
that
33:52
August.
33:53
It
33:53
just
33:53
wasn't
33:53
working.
33:54
Generation
33:54
K,
33:55
the
33:55
three
33:55
young
33:56
pitchers
33:57
who
33:57
were
33:57
supposed
33:57
to,
33:58
Wilson,
33:58
Israel,
33:59
Howsen,
33:59
Pulsifer,
34:00
they
34:00
never
34:00
panned
34:01
out.
34:01
So
34:01
they
34:01
get
34:02
rid
34:02
of
34:02
Green,
34:02
they
34:02
bring
34:02
in
34:03
Bobby
34:03
Valentine,
34:03
and
34:03
he
34:04
spends
34:04
the
34:04
last
34:04
few
34:05
weeks
34:05
of
34:05
96
34:06
basically
34:06
reevaluating
34:07
the
34:07
team
34:07
and
34:07
deciding
34:08
who
34:08
needs
34:08
to
34:08
stay,
34:09
who
34:09
needs
34:09
to
34:09
go.
34:10
They
34:10
go
34:10
a
34:11
little
34:11
bit
34:11
more
34:11
towards
34:11
a
34:11
youth
34:12
movement
34:12
while
34:12
adding
34:13
in
34:13
some
34:13
veterans
34:13
here
34:13
and
34:14
there.
34:14
And
34:14
they
34:14
surprise
34:15
everybody.
34:15
In
34:15
97,
34:16
they
34:16
kind
34:16
of
34:16
come
34:16
out
34:16
of
34:17
nowhere
34:17
and
34:18
they
34:18
have
34:18
a
34:18
tremendous
34:19
amount
34:19
of
34:19
comeback
34:20
wins.
34:20
So
34:20
not
34:20
only
34:20
are
34:20
they
34:20
winning,
34:21
they're
34:22
exciting.
34:22
They
34:22
finish
34:23
88
34:23
and
34:23
74.
34:24
They
34:24
make
34:24
a
34:24
Playoff
34:25
run
34:25
right
34:25
up
34:25
until
34:25
the
34:25
last
34:26
week
34:26
of
34:26
the
34:26
season.
34:27
And
34:27
they
34:27
sort
34:27
of
34:27
announced
34:28
that
34:29
they're
34:29
going
34:29
to
34:29
be
34:30
competing
34:30
for
34:30
the
34:30
heart
34:31
of
34:31
New
34:31
York
34:31
City.
34:32
The
34:32
Yankees
34:32
are
34:32
winning
34:33
championships,
34:33
but
34:33
we're
34:34
back
34:34
and
34:34
we're
34:35
going
34:35
to
34:35
be
34:35
there,
34:35
too.
34:36
Yeah,
34:36
and
34:37
they
34:37
were
34:37
for
34:37
a
34:37
while.
34:38
Now
34:38
we're
34:38
speaking
34:39
with
34:39
Chris
34:39
Donnelly
34:40
tonight.
34:40
The
34:40
book
34:40
is
34:41
get
34:41
your
34:41
tokens
34:42
ready.
34:43
And
34:43
now
34:43
we
34:44
look
34:44
at
34:44
2000.
34:45
Chris
34:45
and
34:46
the
34:46
Yankees.
34:48
A
34:48
dynasty
34:49
is
34:49
brewing
34:50
again.
34:51
Undisputed
34:52
kings
34:52
in
34:53
New
34:53
York.
34:54
Three
34:54
series
34:55
titles
34:55
in
34:55
four
34:56
seasons.
34:57
And
34:57
the
34:58
Mets
34:59
have
34:59
rebuilt
35:00
their
35:00
team.
35:00
We
35:01
see,
35:02
as
35:02
you
35:02
said,
35:03
not
35:03
only
35:03
to
35:03
be
35:04
competitive,
35:05
but
35:05
they're
35:06
building
35:06
one
35:06
dramatic
35:07
moment
35:07
after
35:08
another.
35:09
Yes,
35:10
the
35:10
Mets
35:10
are.
35:10
I
35:11
kind
35:11
of
35:11
feel
35:11
that
35:11
the
35:12
late
35:12
90s
35:12
Mets
35:13
are
35:14
unfairly
35:15
forgotten.
35:15
I
35:15
understand
35:16
if
35:16
you're
35:16
a
35:16
Mets
35:16
fan,
35:17
not
35:17
necessarily
35:17
wanting
35:18
to
35:18
relive
35:19
those
35:19
years
35:19
because
35:20
of
35:20
how
35:20
they
35:20
ended
35:20
up
35:21
losing
35:21
to
35:21
the
35:21
braves
35:22
in
35:22
the
35:22
NLCS
35:22
in
35:23
99,
35:23
losing
35:23
the
35:24
subway.
35:24
Spoiler
35:24
alert.
35:25
Losing
35:25
the
35:25
subway
35:25
series
35:26
in
35:26
2000.
35:27
But
35:28
they
35:28
were
35:28
really
35:28
exciting
35:29
teams,
35:29
and
35:29
I
35:30
think
35:30
they
35:30
deserve
35:30
better
35:31
than
35:31
they've
35:31
gotten
35:31
over
35:32
the
35:32
years.
35:32
I
35:32
would
35:32
argue
35:33
that
35:33
the
35:33
99
35:33
Mets
35:34
are
35:34
top
35:34
three,
35:34
if
35:35
not
35:35
top
35:35
five,
35:36
Mets
35:36
team
35:37
of
35:37
all
35:37
time.
35:38
And
35:38
the
35:38
last
35:38
three
35:39
weeks
35:39
of
35:39
that
35:39
season,
35:40
including
35:40
the
35:40
playoffs,
35:41
are
35:41
some
35:41
of
35:42
the
35:42
most
35:42
exciting
35:43
moments
35:43
in
35:44
Mets
35:44
history.
35:45
Right.
35:45
Right
35:46
up
35:46
until,
35:46
obviously,
35:46
the
35:46
heartbreak
35:47
of
35:47
the
35:47
Kenny
35:47
Rogers
35:48
walk
35:48
in
35:48
the
35:49
nlcs.
35:49
But
35:50
to
35:50
claw
35:50
back.
35:51
To
35:51
claw
35:51
back
35:52
and
35:52
get
35:52
into
35:52
a
35:53
playoff
35:53
spot
35:54
after
35:54
they
35:54
had
35:54
almost
35:55
blown
35:55
a
35:55
playoff
35:55
spot,
35:56
and
35:56
then
35:56
to
35:56
beat
35:57
the
35:57
Diamondbacks,
35:58
to
35:58
walk
35:58
it
35:58
off
35:58
with
35:59
Todd
35:59
Pratt
36:00
and
36:00
then
36:00
to
36:00
make
36:00
that
36:01
comeback
36:01
against
36:01
the
36:01
Braves,
36:02
being
36:02
down
36:02
three
36:02
games
36:03
to
36:03
none
36:03
and
36:03
forcing
36:04
a
36:04
game
36:04
six
36:04
and
36:04
almost
36:05
forcing
36:05
a
36:05
game
36:05
seven.
36:06
I
36:06
really
36:07
think
36:07
those
36:07
Mets
36:07
teams
36:08
deserve
36:08
more
36:08
appreciation
36:10
than
36:10
they
36:10
tend
36:10
to
36:10
get.
36:11
I
36:11
agree.
36:12
I
36:12
agree.
36:13
Notable.
36:14
Very,
36:14
very
36:14
notable.
36:15
And
36:16
in
36:16
the
36:16
mix,
36:17
Chris,
36:17
we
36:17
have
36:18
guys
36:18
like
36:19
Darryl
36:19
Strawberry,
36:20
Dwight
36:21
Gooden,
36:22
David
36:22
Cohn,
36:23
and
36:23
of
36:23
course,
36:24
Joe
36:24
Torrey.
36:25
And
36:26
you
36:26
had
36:26
some
36:27
polarizing
36:27
figures
36:28
there.
36:29
Yeah,
36:30
it's
36:31
just
36:31
sort
36:31
of
36:31
weird
36:31
how
36:31
things
36:32
work
36:32
out
36:32
in
36:32
life
36:33
where
36:33
you
36:33
have
36:33
so
36:33
many
36:33
ex
36:34
mens
36:35
who
36:35
come
36:35
to
36:35
the
36:35
Yankees
36:36
and
36:36
not
36:37
only
36:37
come
36:37
to
36:37
the
36:37
Yankees,
36:38
but
36:38
succeed
36:39
or
36:39
sort
36:39
of
36:39
get
36:40
their
36:40
second
36:40
chances
36:40
and
36:41
rebuild
36:41
their
36:41
careers.
36:42
Daryl
36:43
Strawberry,
36:43
Dwight
36:43
Gooden
36:44
among
36:44
them.
36:44
David
36:45
Cohn,
36:45
right,
36:45
comes
36:46
to
36:46
the
36:46
Yankees,
36:47
pitches
36:48
a
36:48
perfect
36:48
game.
36:49
Joe
36:50
Torre
36:50
comes
36:50
to
36:50
the
36:50
Yankees,
36:51
wins
36:51
a
36:51
championship
36:51
that
36:52
he
36:52
never
36:52
got
36:52
as
36:52
a
36:52
Mets
36:52
manager.
36:53
I
36:53
mean,
36:53
even
36:53
guys
36:54
like
36:54
Mel
36:54
Stottlemeier,
36:55
who
36:55
was
36:55
former
36:56
Mets
36:56
pitching
36:56
coach,
36:57
and
36:57
even
36:57
Don
36:57
Zimmer,
36:57
a
36:58
former
36:58
Met,
36:58
and
36:58
Willie
36:59
Randolph,
36:59
who
36:59
was
36:59
a
36:59
former
36:59
Method.
37:01
It's
37:01
just
37:01
sort
37:01
of
37:01
Weird.
37:02
The
37:02
list
37:02
of
37:03
Mets
37:03
that
37:04
just
37:04
goes
37:04
on
37:04
and
37:05
on
37:05
for
37:05
the
37:05
late
37:06
90s,
37:06
2000
37:07
Yankees.
37:08
And
37:08
it
37:08
does
37:08
add
37:09
some
37:09
flavor
37:10
to
37:10
that.
37:11
I
37:11
guess
37:11
you
37:12
could
37:12
call
37:12
it
37:12
a
37:12
rivalry
37:13
that
37:14
you
37:14
have
37:14
so
37:14
many
37:14
of
37:14
these
37:14
ex
37:15
Mets
37:15
who
37:15
are
37:16
now
37:16
winning
37:16
in
37:17
pinstripes.
37:18
It
37:18
made
37:18
it
37:19
a
37:19
little
37:19
bit
37:19
more
37:19
special.
37:20
It
37:20
did.
37:20
Now,
37:21
would
37:21
you
37:21
say
37:21
that
37:22
this
37:22
was
37:22
a
37:22
golden
37:23
age
37:23
of
37:23
New
37:23
York
37:24
baseball,
37:24
Chris?
37:26
I
37:26
would,
37:26
I.
37:28
Everybody
37:28
thinks
37:29
that
37:29
the
37:29
age
37:29
that
37:29
they
37:30
grew
37:30
up
37:30
watching
37:30
baseball
37:30
is
37:31
the
37:31
golden
37:31
age
37:31
of
37:31
baseball.
37:32
Right.
37:32
And
37:33
I
37:34
think
37:34
that's
37:34
true.
37:35
But
37:35
I
37:35
think
37:36
the
37:36
first
37:36
real,
37:37
true
37:37
golden
37:37
age
37:38
of
37:38
New
37:38
York
37:38
City
37:38
baseball
37:39
was
37:39
the
37:39
1950s
37:40
with
37:40
the
37:40
Yankees,
37:41
Giants
37:41
and
37:42
Dodgers.
37:43
Absolutely
37:43
right.
37:43
Obviously
37:44
they
37:45
leave
37:45
after
37:45
57,
37:46
so
37:46
you
37:46
don't
37:47
really
37:47
have
37:47
that.
37:47
And
37:47
then
37:47
the
37:48
Mets
37:48
and
37:48
Yankees
37:48
are
37:48
never
37:49
really
37:49
good
37:50
at
37:50
the
37:50
same
37:51
time
37:51
for
37:51
a
37:51
sustained
37:52
period
37:52
of
37:52
time
37:53
until
37:53
you
37:54
get
37:54
to
37:54
the
37:54
late
37:54
90s
37:55
and
37:55
then
37:56
you
37:56
add
37:56
in
37:56
interleague
37:57
play.
37:58
And
37:58
I
37:58
think
37:58
what
37:58
you
37:58
get
37:59
is
37:59
just
37:59
some
38:00
incredibly
38:00
exciting
38:01
baseball
38:02
for
38:02
the
38:02
two
38:03
teams
38:03
individually
38:04
and
38:04
then
38:04
against
38:04
each
38:05
other.
38:05
You
38:05
have
38:05
some
38:05
really
38:06
incredible
38:06
moments
38:06
in
38:07
those
38:07
early
38:07
Subway
38:08
Series
38:08
matchups,
38:08
not
38:09
including
38:09
the
38:09
World
38:09
Series,
38:10
just
38:10
in
38:10
the
38:10
regular
38:11
season.
38:11
I
38:12
think
38:12
when
38:12
you
38:12
look
38:12
at
38:13
all
38:13
that
38:13
together,
38:14
you're
38:14
definitely
38:14
looking
38:15
at
38:15
at
38:15
least
38:15
a
38:15
second
38:16
golden
38:16
age
38:16
of
38:16
New
38:16
York
38:17
City
38:17
baseball.
38:18
Agreed.
38:18
Okay.
38:19
We're
38:19
speaking
38:20
with
38:20
Chris
38:20
Donnelly
38:21
tonight.
38:21
The
38:21
book
38:21
is
38:22
called
38:22
get
38:22
yout
38:23
Tokens
38:23
Ready
38:24
about
38:24
the
38:24
road
38:25
to
38:25
the
38:25
2000
38:26
subway
38:27
series.
38:27
Mets,
38:28
Yankees,
38:28
of
38:28
course.
38:29
Now
38:30
let's
38:30
talk
38:30
about
38:31
the
38:31
Subway
38:31
Series,
38:32
Chris.
38:32
Now,
38:33
game
38:34
one.
38:34
I
38:35
watched
38:35
that
38:36
and
38:36
it
38:36
still
38:36
sticks
38:37
in
38:37
my
38:37
craw
38:37
to
38:37
this
38:38
day.
38:40
Talk
38:40
a
38:40
little
38:40
bit
38:40
about
38:41
game
38:41
one.
38:43
Yeah,
38:43
Game
38:44
one
38:44
was
38:44
first
38:45
of
38:45
all
38:45
going
38:45
into
38:45
the
38:45
Series.
38:46
It
38:46
was
38:46
not.
38:47
Nobody
38:48
really
38:48
felt
38:48
like
38:48
this
38:49
was
38:49
going
38:49
to
38:49
be
38:49
a
38:49
pushover
38:50
really
38:50
for
38:50
either
38:51
team.
38:51
I
38:51
think
38:51
the
38:51
teams
38:52
were
38:52
fairly
38:53
evenly
38:53
matched.
38:54
Yes,
38:54
the
38:54
Yankees
38:55
were
38:55
coming
38:55
off
38:55
of
38:56
winning
38:56
three
38:56
or
38:56
four
38:56
championships,
38:57
but
38:57
they
38:57
had
38:57
struggled
38:58
late
38:58
in
38:58
2000
38:59
and
39:00
they'd
39:00
almost
39:00
been
39:00
eliminated
39:01
by
39:01
the
39:01
A's
39:01
in
39:01
the
39:02
Division
39:02
Series.
39:02
And
39:03
the
39:03
Mets
39:03
really
39:04
hadn't
39:04
been
39:04
challenged
39:05
too
39:05
hard
39:05
in
39:06
their
39:06
march
39:06
to
39:06
the
39:07
World
39:07
Series.
39:07
But
39:07
you
39:08
get
39:08
to
39:08
game
39:08
one
39:09
and
39:10
just
39:10
a
39:10
lot
39:10
of
39:11
things
39:11
don't
39:11
go
39:11
right
39:12
for
39:12
the
39:12
Mets.
39:12
And
39:13
much
39:14
of
39:14
it
39:14
is
39:14
self
39:14
inflicted.
39:15
They
39:15
make
39:15
a
39:16
few
39:16
base
39:16
running
39:16
gaps,
39:17
they
39:17
run
39:18
into
39:18
some
39:18
really
39:18
bad
39:18
luck
39:19
with
39:19
the
39:19
direction
39:19
of
39:19
some
39:20
balls.
39:20
And
39:20
of
39:20
course,
39:20
the
39:21
famous
39:21
Timo
39:22
Perez
39:22
play
39:23
where
39:23
Todd
39:23
Zeal
39:24
hits
39:24
one
39:24
off
39:24
of
39:25
Andy
39:25
Pettit.
39:26
It
39:26
hits
39:26
off
39:26
the
39:26
top
39:26
of
39:27
the
39:27
wall,
39:27
falls
39:27
down.
39:28
Timo
39:28
slows
39:28
up
39:29
because
39:29
he
39:29
thinks
39:29
it's
39:29
a
39:29
home
39:29
run
39:30
and
39:30
he
39:30
gets
39:30
thrown
39:30
out
39:30
at
39:31
the
39:31
plate.
39:31
I
39:32
will
39:32
say
39:32
this.
39:32
I
39:33
will
39:33
say
39:33
this.
39:34
In
39:34
Perez's
39:35
defense,
39:36
almost
39:36
everyone
39:37
watching
39:38
at
39:38
the
39:38
game
39:39
and
39:39
at
39:39
home
39:39
thought
39:40
the
39:40
ball
39:40
went
39:40
in
39:40
the
39:40
stands.
39:41
The
39:41
only
39:42
people
39:42
who
39:42
really
39:42
didn't
39:42
were
39:43
David
39:43
justice
39:43
and
39:44
Derek
39:44
Jeter,
39:45
who
39:45
ended
39:45
up
39:46
doing
39:46
the
39:46
relay
39:46
throw
39:46
to
39:47
get
39:47
Perez.
39:47
All
39:47
that
39:48
said,
39:48
I
39:48
understand
39:48
you
39:49
run
39:49
hard
39:49
until
39:49
somebody
39:50
tells
39:50
you
39:50
not
39:50
to
39:50
run.
39:51
And
39:51
it
39:52
still
39:52
just
39:52
sort
39:52
of
39:52
exemplifies
39:53
everything
39:53
that
39:54
went
39:54
wrong
39:54
in
39:54
game
39:54
one.
39:55
And
39:55
then,
39:56
of
39:56
course,
39:56
Benitez
39:57
gives
39:57
up
39:57
the
39:57
lead
39:58
in
39:58
the
39:58
ninth
39:58
inning,
39:59
and
39:59
then
39:59
the
39:59
Yankees
39:59
win
39:59
it
40:00
in
40:00
the
40:00
bottom
40:00
of
40:00
the
40:00
12th.
40:01
It
40:01
was
40:02
quite
40:02
Metzian,
40:03
as
40:03
I
40:03
say,
40:04
Chris.
40:04
That's
40:05
the
40:05
term
40:05
I
40:06
use.
40:06
Very
40:07
metzian.
40:07
Now,
40:08
would
40:08
you
40:09
agree
40:09
with
40:09
the
40:09
statement
40:10
that
40:11
Steinbrenner's
40:12
worst
40:12
nightmare
40:13
would
40:14
be
40:14
losing
40:14
that
40:15
series
40:15
to
40:15
the
40:15
Mets?
40:17
I
40:18
think
40:18
it
40:18
would
40:18
be
40:18
Steinbrenner's
40:19
worst
40:19
nightmare.
40:20
And
40:20
I
40:20
think
40:20
it
40:20
would
40:20
have
40:20
been
40:21
the
40:21
players
40:21
worst,
40:22
the
40:22
Yankee
40:22
players
40:23
worst
40:23
nightmare,
40:23
because
40:24
it
40:24
would
40:24
have
40:24
been
40:24
George's
40:25
worst
40:25
nightmare.
40:26
If
40:26
you
40:26
speak
40:26
to
40:27
a
40:27
lot
40:27
of
40:27
players,
40:27
they'll
40:28
tell
40:28
you
40:28
it
40:28
didn't
40:28
matter
40:29
that
40:29
we'd
40:29
won
40:29
three
40:29
of
40:29
the
40:30
last
40:30
four.
40:30
Had
40:30
we
40:30
lost
40:31
that
40:31
one,
40:32
those
40:32
championships
40:33
wouldn't
40:33
have
40:33
meant
40:34
a
40:34
thing,
40:34
because
40:34
that's
40:35
all
40:35
we
40:35
would
40:35
have
40:35
heard
40:35
about
40:36
for
40:36
the
40:36
rest
40:37
of
40:37
our
40:37
lives.
40:37
And
40:37
I
40:37
think
40:38
they're
40:38
right.
40:38
And
40:38
George's
40:39
behavior
40:39
shows
40:40
that
40:40
during
40:41
the
40:41
Series,
40:42
George
40:43
wasn't
40:43
in
40:43
the
40:43
visiting
40:44
Clubhouse
40:44
for
40:44
the
40:44
98
40:45
and
40:45
99
40:46
World
40:46
Series.
40:46
Right.
40:47
He
40:47
wasn't
40:47
sort
40:48
of
40:48
a
40:48
presence
40:48
during
40:49
those
40:49
World
40:50
Series.
40:50
He
40:50
was
40:50
everywhere
40:51
during
40:51
the
40:51
2000
40:52
World
40:52
Series.
40:53
He's
40:53
in
40:53
the
40:53
Shea
40:53
Stadium
40:54
visitors
40:55
locker
40:56
room.
40:56
He's
40:56
hanging
40:57
out,
40:57
he's
40:57
pacing,
40:58
he's
40:58
frantic.
40:59
He
40:59
thinks
40:59
that
40:59
the
41:00
locker
41:00
room
41:00
is
41:00
trash.
41:00
So
41:01
he
41:01
has
41:01
all
41:01
the
41:01
Yankees
41:02
furniture
41:03
brought
41:03
from
41:03
Yankee
41:04
Stadium
41:04
to
41:04
Shea
41:04
stadium
41:05
before
41:05
Game
41:06
4.
41:06
He's
41:06
paranoid.
41:07
He
41:07
thinks
41:08
that
41:08
the
41:08
Mets
41:08
are
41:08
bugging
41:09
the
41:09
clubhouse.
41:10
David
41:11
Cohen
41:11
has
41:11
fun
41:12
with
41:12
this.
41:12
And
41:12
it's
41:13
before
41:13
Game
41:13
5,
41:14
and
41:14
Fox
41:14
is
41:14
setting
41:15
up
41:15
the
41:16
wires
41:16
and
41:16
the
41:16
cables
41:17
and
41:17
everything
41:17
in
41:17
case
41:18
celebration.
41:19
And
41:19
Cohen
41:19
points
41:20
to
41:20
the
41:20
wires
41:20
and
41:20
says,
41:21
look,
41:21
boss,
41:21
there
41:21
it
41:21
is.
41:22
There's
41:22
the
41:22
bug.
41:23
And
41:24
a
41:24
pipe
41:24
actually
41:24
bursts
41:25
during
41:25
game
41:26
four
41:26
and
41:26
floods
41:27
the
41:27
Yankees
41:27
clubhouse.
41:28
And
41:28
I
41:28
think
41:28
George,
41:28
to
41:29
his
41:29
dying
41:29
day,
41:29
always
41:30
thought
41:30
that
41:30
the
41:30
Mets
41:30
did
41:31
that
41:31
on
41:31
purpose
41:32
to
41:32
mess
41:32
with
41:32
the
41:33
Yankees.
41:33
That
41:33
is
41:34
amazing.
41:34
Yeah.
41:34
Only
41:35
George
41:35
would
41:36
come
41:36
up
41:36
with
41:36
something
41:37
like
41:37
that.
41:37
Now
41:38
we
41:38
have
41:38
another
41:38
piece
41:39
of
41:39
drama
41:40
that
41:41
plays
41:41
out
41:41
in
41:42
the
41:42
Series,
41:42
and
41:43
it
41:43
was
41:43
the
41:44
Piazza
41:45
Clemens
41:45
controversy.
41:46
And
41:47
to
41:47
this
41:47
day,
41:47
people
41:48
despise
41:49
Roger
41:49
Clemens
41:50
because
41:50
of
41:50
that.
41:51
People
41:51
think
41:51
that
41:52
Piazza
41:52
should
41:53
have
41:53
reacted
41:54
differently.
41:55
Give
41:55
us
41:55
your
41:55
take
41:56
on
41:56
that
41:56
situation,
41:57
Chris?
41:59
Well,
41:59
I'll
42:00
start
42:00
by
42:00
saying
42:00
I
42:01
fully
42:01
understand
42:02
the
42:02
emotions
42:03
on
42:04
both
42:04
sides
42:04
in
42:05
this
42:05
incident,
42:06
and
42:06
I'll
42:06
give
42:06
you
42:07
my
42:07
take.
42:07
But
42:07
I
42:07
also
42:07
just
42:08
want
42:08
to
42:08
point
42:08
out
42:08
the
42:08
absurdity
42:09
of
42:09
everything
42:09
that
42:10
happened
42:10
to
42:10
lead
42:10
to
42:11
that
42:11
moment.
42:12
So
42:12
I
42:12
think
42:13
that
42:14
when
42:14
you
42:14
look
42:14
at
42:15
it
42:15
in
42:15
slow
42:15
motion
42:16
and
42:16
right
42:16
after
42:16
it
42:16
happened,
42:17
and
42:17
with
42:17
the
42:18
commentary
42:18
from
42:18
Tim
42:18
McCarver
42:19
on
42:19
TV
42:19
and
42:20
some
42:20
of
42:20
the
42:20
reporters,
42:20
it's
42:21
very
42:21
easy
42:21
to
42:21
understand,
42:22
especially
42:22
with
42:23
the
42:23
emotion
42:23
of
42:24
Clemens
42:24
having
42:24
hit
42:24
Piazza
42:25
in
42:25
the
42:25
head
42:25
earlier
42:26
that
42:26
season,
42:27
why
42:27
a
42:27
lot
42:27
of
42:27
people
42:28
think
42:28
Clemons
42:28
threw
42:28
the
42:29
bat
42:29
at
42:29
Piazza
42:29
on
42:30
purpose.
42:31
I
42:31
have
42:31
no
42:32
hesitation
42:32
in
42:32
saying
42:33
that
42:33
that
42:33
is
42:33
not
42:34
what
42:34
happened.
42:35
I
42:35
do
42:36
think
42:36
in
42:36
the
42:36
initial
42:37
moment
42:37
when
42:38
the
42:38
bat
42:38
was
42:38
coming
42:38
towards
42:39
him,
42:39
that
42:39
Clemens
42:40
did
42:40
actually
42:40
think
42:40
it
42:41
was
42:41
the
42:41
ball.
42:42
Obviously,
42:42
once
42:43
he
42:43
fields
42:43
it,
42:43
he
42:44
knows
42:44
it's
42:44
not
42:44
the
42:44
ball,
42:45
so
42:45
that
42:45
excuse
42:45
doesn't
42:46
mean
42:46
anything
42:46
after
42:46
that
42:47
fact.
42:48
And
42:48
then
42:48
he
42:49
immediately
42:49
flips
42:49
it
42:50
away.
42:50
If
42:50
you
42:50
watch
42:50
it
42:50
in
42:51
real
42:51
time,
42:51
it's
42:52
very
42:52
clear
42:52
that
42:52
he
42:52
doesn't
42:53
know
42:53
where
42:53
Piazza
42:53
is
42:53
and
42:54
he
42:54
doesn't
42:54
throw
42:55
rid
42:56
of
42:56
it.
42:56
Still,
42:56
it's
42:57
very
42:57
irresistible
42:58
on
42:58
Clements
42:58
part.
42:59
He
42:59
had
42:59
what
42:59
was
42:59
essentially
43:00
a
43:00
weapon
43:01
that
43:01
he
43:01
just
43:01
flings
43:02
off
43:02
the
43:02
field,
43:02
and
43:03
he
43:03
should
43:03
have
43:03
known
43:03
better.
43:04
But
43:05
what
43:05
really
43:05
fascinates
43:06
me
43:06
about
43:06
that
43:07
whole
43:07
incident
43:07
is
43:08
how
43:08
many
43:08
things
43:09
had
43:09
to
43:09
happen
43:09
for
43:10
it
43:10
to
43:10
actually
43:10
happen.
43:11
It
43:12
had
43:12
to
43:12
be
43:12
Piazza
43:12
vs.
43:13
Clemens.
43:13
It
43:13
could
43:13
have
43:13
been
43:13
any
43:14
other
43:14
hitter.
43:14
It
43:14
could
43:14
have
43:14
been
43:15
any
43:15
other
43:15
pitcher.
43:15
It
43:16
had
43:16
to
43:16
be
43:16
those
43:16
two.
43:17
It
43:17
had
43:17
to
43:17
be
43:17
Piazza
43:18
breaking
43:18
his
43:18
bat
43:19
in
43:19
the
43:19
way
43:19
that
43:19
it
43:19
broke.
43:20
Whereas
43:21
bats
43:21
normally
43:21
break
43:22
into
43:22
little
43:22
shards
43:23
or
43:23
pieces,
43:23
this
43:23
one
43:24
just
43:24
completely
43:25
breaks
43:25
into
43:26
the
43:26
bat,
43:27
has
43:27
to
43:27
skid
43:27
along
43:28
the
43:28
grass
43:28
and
43:28
hop
43:28
up
43:29
to
43:29
Clemens
43:30
the
43:30
exact
43:30
way
43:31
in
43:31
which
43:31
it
43:31
did.
43:32
Piazza
43:33
has
43:33
to
43:33
not
43:33
know
43:33
where
43:34
the
43:34
foul
43:34
ball
43:34
is
43:35
so
43:35
that
43:35
he
43:35
starts
43:36
running
43:36
out
43:36
of
43:36
the
43:36
box
43:36
because
43:37
he
43:37
doesn't
43:37
see
43:37
that
43:37
it
43:37
goes
43:37
into
43:38
the
43:38
stands.
43:39
And
43:39
he
43:39
has
43:39
to
43:39
be
43:39
right
43:40
where
43:40
he
43:40
is
43:40
for
43:40
Clemens
43:41
to
43:41
throw
43:41
the
43:41
bat
43:41
directly
43:42
into
43:42
his
43:43
path.
43:43
Yeah,
43:44
almost
43:44
a
43:44
foot
43:44
or
43:44
two
43:45
away
43:45
from.
43:45
It's
43:46
crazy
43:46
that
43:47
all
43:47
of
43:47
those
43:47
things
43:48
actually
43:49
happen,
43:49
because
43:49
if
43:50
even
43:50
one
43:50
of
43:50
them
43:50
doesn't
43:51
play
43:51
out
43:51
that
43:51
way,
43:52
you
43:52
and
43:52
I
43:52
are
43:53
not
43:53
having
43:53
this
43:53
conversation,
43:54
Right?
43:55
It's
43:56
just.
43:56
It's
43:57
baseball.
43:58
It's
43:59
the
43:59
poetic
44:00
justice
44:00
and
44:00
the
44:02
game.
44:03
That's
44:03
what
44:04
happens.
44:04
That's
44:05
what
44:05
makes
44:05
baseball
44:06
baseball.
44:08
Absolutely.
44:09
It's
44:09
these
44:09
little
44:10
moments.
44:10
And
44:11
you
44:11
look
44:11
at
44:12
the
44:12
whole
44:12
Series,
44:12
and
44:12
the
44:12
whole
44:13
Series
44:13
is
44:13
little
44:13
moments.
44:14
And
44:14
unfortunately
44:15
for
44:15
the
44:15
Mets,
44:15
most
44:15
of
44:16
them
44:16
did
44:16
not
44:16
go
44:16
their
44:17
way.
44:17
But
44:17
you
44:17
think,
44:17
man,
44:18
if
44:18
that
44:19
I
44:19
Mean
44:19
no
44:20
ball.
44:20
The
44:20
way
44:21
Todd
44:21
Zeal
44:21
hits
44:21
it
44:22
hits
44:22
the
44:22
top
44:22
of
44:22
the
44:23
wall
44:23
and
44:23
falls
44:24
down,
44:24
everyone,
44:25
it
44:25
always
44:25
goes
44:26
into
44:26
the
44:26
stands
44:26
for
44:26
a
44:27
home
44:27
run.
44:27
That
44:28
ball
44:28
falls
44:28
down,
44:28
Timo
44:29
gets
44:29
thrown
44:29
out,
44:30
right?
44:30
The
44:31
Clemens
44:31
Piazza
44:32
incident
44:32
with
44:32
the
44:32
way
44:32
the
44:32
bat
44:33
went.
44:33
And
44:33
even
44:34
just
44:34
through
44:34
the
44:34
rest
44:34
of
44:34
the
44:34
series,
44:35
these
44:35
small
44:36
little
44:36
moments,
44:37
I
44:37
mean,
44:37
David
44:37
Cohen
44:38
comes
44:38
into
44:38
relief
44:38
in
44:38
game
44:39
four.
44:39
He
44:39
had
44:39
a
44:40
terrible
44:40
regular
44:40
season
44:41
and
44:41
he
44:41
faces
44:42
Mike
44:42
Piazza,
44:43
the
44:43
best
44:43
hitting
44:43
catcher
44:44
of
44:44
all
44:44
time,
44:45
and
44:45
he
44:45
somehow,
44:46
with
44:46
basically
44:46
nothing
44:47
left
44:47
in
44:47
the
44:47
tank,
44:47
figures
44:48
out
44:48
a
44:48
way
44:48
to
44:48
retire
44:49
him
44:49
and
44:50
help
44:50
preserve
44:50
the
44:50
lead
44:51
for
44:51
the
44:51
Yankees.
44:52
It's
44:53
these
44:53
little
44:53
moments
44:54
that
44:54
can
44:54
change
44:54
the
44:55
course
44:55
of
44:55
history.
44:55
And
44:55
like
44:56
you
44:56
said,
44:56
it's
44:56
what
44:56
makes
44:57
baseball
44:57
so
44:57
incredible
44:58
right
44:58
now.
44:58
The
44:59
Mets
44:59
could
44:59
have
44:59
easily
45:00
won
45:00
every
45:01
game,
45:02
correct?
45:03
Absolutely.
45:03
The
45:04
tying
45:04
or
45:05
winning
45:05
run
45:05
was
45:05
at
45:06
the
45:06
plate
45:06
at
45:06
the
45:06
end
45:06
of
45:07
every
45:07
single
45:07
game
45:08
in
45:08
that
45:09
series.
45:09
And
45:09
if
45:09
just
45:10
some
45:10
of
45:10
these
45:10
things
45:10
had
45:11
slipped,
45:12
the
45:12
Mets
45:13
could
45:13
have
45:13
won
45:13
that
45:13
series
45:14
in
45:14
six
45:14
or
45:14
seven
45:14
games,
45:15
or
45:15
the
45:15
Yankees
45:16
would
45:16
have
45:16
won
45:16
it
45:16
in
45:16
seven
45:16
games.
45:17
It
45:17
would
45:17
just
45:17
have
45:17
been
45:18
extended.
45:18
But
45:19
I
45:19
think
45:20
in
45:21
years
45:21
from
45:21
now
45:22
when
45:22
people
45:22
don't
45:22
necessarily
45:23
remember,
45:23
they
45:23
might
45:23
look
45:24
back
45:24
and
45:24
go,
45:24
that
45:24
was
45:24
a
45:25
five
45:25
game
45:25
series
45:25
that
45:26
couldn't
45:26
have
45:26
been
45:26
too
45:26
close
45:26
or
45:27
exciting.
45:28
Every
45:28
game
45:28
was
45:29
exciting.
45:29
It
45:29
was
45:30
incredibly
45:30
close.
45:31
And
45:32
just
45:32
one
45:32
or
45:32
two
45:32
things
45:32
could
45:33
have
45:33
changed
45:33
the
45:33
whole
45:34
outcome
45:35
of
45:35
the
45:35
series,
45:36
right?
45:36
The
45:36
dynamic
45:37
could
45:37
have
45:37
gone
45:37
the
45:37
other
45:38
way
45:38
very,
45:39
very
45:39
easily.
45:40
Now,
45:40
Louis
45:41
soho
45:42
turns
45:42
out
45:42
to
45:42
be
45:43
a
45:43
name
45:43
in
45:44
this
45:44
series,
45:45
right?
45:46
It's.
45:47
It's
45:47
another
45:47
one
45:47
of
45:47
those
45:48
wonderful
45:48
things
45:48
about
45:49
baseball
45:49
that
45:50
you've
45:50
got
45:51
Mike
45:51
Piazza
45:52
and
45:52
Derek
45:53
Jeter,
45:54
right?
45:54
And
45:55
Al
45:55
Leiter
45:55
and
45:55
Mike
45:56
Hampton
45:56
and
45:57
Andy
45:57
Pett.
45:57
You've
45:58
got
45:58
all
45:58
these
45:58
well
45:58
known
45:59
established
46:00
names.
46:01
And
46:02
the
46:02
ultimate
46:02
hero
46:03
in
46:03
that
46:03
series
46:03
turns
46:04
out
46:04
to
46:04
be
46:05
Louis
46:05
soho
46:06
because
46:06
he
46:06
hit
46:07
a
46:07
four
46:08
hop
46:08
ground
46:08
ball
46:09
up
46:10
the
46:10
middle.
46:11
That
46:12
in
46:12
Louis
46:12
soho
46:13
had
46:13
so
46:13
little
46:13
power
46:14
that
46:14
J
46:14
plate
46:15
Jay
46:15
Payton
46:15
in
46:15
center
46:16
field
46:16
was
46:16
essentially
46:17
playing
46:17
a
46:17
fifth
46:18
infielder
46:18
like
46:19
they
46:19
do
46:19
in
46:19
softball.
46:20
Sometimes
46:21
that's
46:21
how
46:21
close
46:21
to
46:22
the
46:22
infield
46:22
he
46:22
was.
46:23
And
46:24
Louis
46:25
soho
46:25
is
46:25
the
46:26
hero
46:26
on
46:26
that
46:26
base
46:27
hit
46:27
and
46:27
that
46:27
wins
46:27
the
46:27
World
46:28
Series.
46:28
It's
46:28
obviously,
46:29
if
46:29
you're
46:29
a
46:29
Mets
46:29
fan,
46:29
it
46:30
is
46:30
not
46:30
a
46:30
great
46:30
memory,
46:31
but
46:31
it
46:31
is
46:32
just
46:32
one
46:32
of
46:33
those
46:33
amazing
46:33
things
46:33
about
46:34
baseball
46:34
that
46:36
doesn't
46:36
necessarily
46:36
happen
46:37
in
46:37
other
46:37
sports
46:37
where
46:38
at
46:38
any
46:38
moment
46:39
somebody
46:39
who
46:40
you've
46:40
never
46:40
heard
46:40
of
46:40
before
46:41
and
46:41
may
46:41
have
46:42
never
46:42
heard
46:42
of
46:42
afterward
46:43
can
46:43
be
46:44
an
46:44
eternal
46:44
hero.
46:45
Now,
46:46
the
46:46
book
46:46
is
46:47
titled,
46:47
Folks,
46:48
get
46:48
your
46:48
tokens
46:49
ready.
46:49
Talks
46:50
about
46:50
the
46:50
road
46:51
to
46:51
the
46:52
Subway
46:52
Series.
46:53
Now,
46:53
what
46:53
would
46:54
you
46:54
consider,
46:55
Chris,
46:56
Key
46:56
moments
46:57
On
46:57
the
46:57
road
46:57
for
46:58
each
46:58
team.
47:01
Well,
47:01
for
47:01
the
47:01
Yankees,
47:03
it
47:03
goes
47:04
back
47:04
a
47:04
little
47:04
further.
47:04
It
47:05
actually
47:05
goes
47:05
back
47:05
to
47:06
my.
47:07
The
47:07
second
47:07
book
47:07
in
47:08
this
47:08
trilogy,
47:08
Road
47:08
to
47:08
Noah,
47:09
when
47:09
George
47:09
gets
47:09
banished
47:10
from
47:10
baseball
47:11
and
47:11
it's
47:11
turned
47:12
into
47:12
a
47:12
suspension.
47:13
But
47:13
that
47:13
allowed
47:14
the
47:14
Yankees
47:14
to
47:14
really
47:14
rebuild
47:16
and
47:16
to
47:17
not
47:17
trade
47:17
away
47:17
their
47:18
top
47:18
tier
47:18
prospects
47:19
like
47:19
an
47:19
Andy
47:19
Pettit
47:20
or
47:20
Bernie
47:21
Williams,
47:21
all
47:21
of
47:21
which
47:21
George
47:22
Steinbrenner
47:22
wanted
47:23
to
47:23
do
47:23
but
47:23
was
47:24
thankfully
47:24
stopped
47:25
from
47:25
doing
47:25
if
47:25
you're
47:25
a
47:25
Yankees
47:26
fan.
47:27
So
47:27
that
47:28
really
47:28
helped
47:28
them.
47:28
And
47:29
then
47:29
as
47:29
they
47:30
become
47:30
champions
47:31
and
47:31
grow
47:32
stronger,
47:32
right,
47:32
they
47:33
become
47:33
more
47:33
the
47:34
Yankees
47:34
that
47:34
people
47:35
think
47:35
of
47:35
as
47:35
the
47:36
evil
47:36
empire.
47:37
And
47:38
they
47:38
do
47:38
start.
47:40
People
47:40
would
47:40
call
47:40
it
47:40
buying
47:41
the
47:41
best
47:41
players.
47:41
I
47:42
wouldn't
47:42
call
47:42
it
47:42
that.
47:42
But
47:43
that's
47:43
the
47:43
perception,
47:43
right?
47:44
They
47:44
do
47:44
get
47:44
guys
47:45
like
47:45
Chuck
47:45
Knobloch
47:46
and
47:46
Roger
47:46
Clemens
47:47
to
47:47
help
47:47
keep
47:47
the
47:47
dynasty
47:48
going.
47:48
And
47:49
for
47:49
the
47:49
Mets,
47:50
he's
47:51
a
47:51
polarizing
47:51
figure,
47:52
I
47:52
think.
47:52
But
47:52
Bobby
47:52
Valentine
47:53
being
47:53
manager,
47:54
it
47:54
was
47:54
just
47:54
one
47:55
of
47:55
those
47:55
things
47:55
that
47:55
at
47:56
the
47:56
moment
47:56
was
47:56
the
47:56
right
47:57
move
47:57
and
47:57
he
47:58
was
47:58
the
47:58
right
47:58
guy
47:58
for
47:59
that
47:59
team.
47:59
He
48:00
was
48:00
the
48:00
right
48:00
mix
48:01
of
48:01
serious
48:02
and
48:02
kind
48:03
of
48:03
goofy
48:04
and
48:04
baseball
48:05
smart
48:06
and
48:06
willing
48:06
to
48:07
try
48:07
certain
48:07
things.
48:08
And
48:08
also
48:09
the
48:09
Mets
48:09
were,
48:10
were
48:10
having
48:10
faith
48:11
in
48:11
their
48:12
youth
48:12
movement
48:13
again,
48:13
they
48:14
weren't
48:14
doing
48:14
what
48:14
the
48:14
early
48:15
90s
48:15
Mets
48:15
teams
48:16
were,
48:16
which
48:16
is
48:16
trying
48:16
to
48:16
buy
48:16
up
48:17
all
48:17
the
48:17
free
48:17
agents
48:18
they
48:18
could.
48:19
They
48:19
obviously
48:20
made
48:20
some
48:20
true
48:21
free
48:21
agent
48:22
signings
48:22
in
48:22
that
48:22
time,
48:24
but
48:24
they
48:24
just
48:24
were
48:24
smarter
48:25
about
48:25
who
48:25
they
48:25
were
48:26
picking
48:26
up
48:26
and
48:26
how
48:26
they
48:26
would
48:27
fit
48:27
in
48:27
the
48:27
clubhouse.
48:28
And
48:28
it
48:28
all
48:28
came
48:29
together
48:29
for
48:29
both
48:29
teams.
48:31
Now,
48:31
just
48:32
looking
48:32
at
48:32
the
48:32
outfield
48:33
of
48:33
the
48:33
New
48:34
York
48:34
mets
48:35
in
48:35
that
48:35
2000
48:36
series,
48:37
Chris,
48:38
how
48:38
Bobby
48:39
Valentine
48:39
got
48:40
as
48:40
much
48:40
as
48:40
he
48:40
did
48:41
out
48:41
of
48:41
those
48:42
three
48:42
guys.
48:42
And
48:43
you
48:43
know,
48:43
you
48:43
mentioned
48:44
those
48:44
three
48:44
guys
48:45
on
48:45
a
48:46
World
48:46
Series
48:46
team.
48:47
It's
48:47
not
48:48
real
48:48
impressive.
48:50
It
48:50
is.
48:51
Jay
48:51
Payton,
48:51
Timo
48:52
Perez,
48:52
Benny
48:53
Agbiani,
48:54
you
48:55
got
48:55
to
48:55
give
48:55
credit
48:56
for
48:56
them
48:56
getting
48:56
as
48:57
far
48:57
as
48:57
they
48:57
did.
48:57
Those
48:58
guys
48:58
had
48:59
great
48:59
seasons,
49:00
great
49:00
moments
49:00
to
49:01
get
49:01
them
49:01
there.
49:01
Ultimately,
49:03
their
49:03
careers
49:03
didn't
49:04
pan
49:04
out,
49:04
I
49:05
think,
49:05
as
49:05
people
49:05
had
49:05
hoped.
49:06
And
49:07
the
49:07
question
49:07
has
49:07
been
49:08
put
49:08
to
49:08
me,
49:08
is
49:08
that
49:09
the
49:09
weakest
49:09
outfield
49:10
that
49:10
any
49:10
World
49:11
Series
49:11
team
49:11
has
49:11
ever
49:11
put
49:12
together?
49:12
I
49:12
honestly
49:13
don't
49:13
know
49:13
if
49:13
the
49:13
answer
49:14
is
49:14
yes.
49:15
But
49:15
you
49:15
do
49:16
sort
49:16
of
49:16
look
49:16
back
49:16
and
49:16
go,
49:16
wow,
49:17
that's
49:17
kind
49:17
of
49:17
incredible
49:17
that
49:18
they
49:18
got
49:18
there.
49:19
But
49:19
it
49:19
also,
49:19
again,
49:20
speaks
49:20
to
49:20
the
49:21
beauty
49:21
of
49:21
baseball
49:21
in
49:22
that
49:23
if
49:23
people
49:23
can
49:24
put
49:24
together
49:24
the
49:24
right
49:25
moments
49:25
and
49:26
just
49:26
string
49:26
together
49:26
the
49:27
right
49:27
amount
49:27
of
49:27
success
49:28
in
49:28
the
49:28
right
49:28
period
49:29
of
49:29
time,
49:30
you
49:31
can
49:31
get
49:31
to
49:31
a
49:32
championship,
49:32
you
49:32
can
49:32
get
49:33
to
49:33
a
49:33
World
49:33
Series.
49:34
And
49:35
I
49:35
mean,
49:35
I
49:35
would
49:36
argue
49:36
that
49:36
the
49:36
99
49:36
Mets
49:37
were
49:37
a
49:37
much
49:37
better
49:38
team
49:38
than
49:38
the
49:38
2000
49:39
Mets,
49:39
but
49:39
the
49:40
2000
49:40
Mets
49:40
just
49:40
figured
49:41
out
49:41
the
49:41
right
49:41
way
49:42
to
49:42
make
49:42
it
49:42
work
49:43
and
49:43
to
49:43
get
49:43
to
49:43
the
49:43
World
49:43
Series.
49:44
Look
49:44
at
49:44
the
49:45
69
49:45
Mets.
49:46
Chris,
49:46
I
49:46
just
49:47
had
49:47
Art
49:47
Shamsky
49:48
on
49:48
the
49:48
show
49:48
previous
49:49
to
49:49
you,
49:50
and
49:50
there's
49:50
a
49:50
perfect
49:51
example
49:51
about
49:52
putting
49:52
things
49:53
together.
49:53
Right
49:54
place,
49:54
right
49:55
time
49:55
and
49:56
everything.
49:57
Just
49:57
string
49:58
strings
49:58
together.
50:00
Yeah,
50:00
it's
50:00
just
50:00
a
50:01
moment.
50:01
And
50:01
it's
50:02
just
50:02
one
50:03
of
50:03
those
50:03
funny
50:03
things,
50:03
not
50:04
just
50:04
about
50:04
baseball,
50:04
but
50:05
about
50:05
sports,
50:05
where
50:05
you
50:06
could
50:06
bring
50:06
the
50:06
same
50:07
group
50:07
of
50:07
people
50:07
back
50:08
a
50:08
few
50:08
months
50:08
later,
50:09
and
50:09
for
50:09
whatever
50:10
reason,
50:10
it
50:10
doesn't
50:11
work
50:11
again.
50:11
And
50:12
it's
50:12
not
50:12
like
50:12
it
50:12
was
50:13
just
50:14
a
50:14
couple
50:14
of
50:14
months
50:15
earlier.
50:15
And
50:16
that
50:16
was
50:16
kind
50:16
of
50:16
the
50:16
case
50:17
with
50:17
the
50:17
2000
50:17
Mets
50:18
in
50:18
2001.
50:19
They
50:19
high
50:20
expectations,
50:21
they
50:21
didn't
50:21
live
50:22
up
50:22
to
50:22
them,
50:22
and
50:23
the
50:23
franchise
50:23
started
50:24
to
50:24
fall
50:24
apart
50:24
after
50:24
that,
50:25
and
50:25
it
50:25
kind
50:25
of
50:25
bottoms
50:26
out
50:26
in
50:27
2003,
50:27
and
50:28
then
50:28
they
50:28
begin
50:28
another
50:28
rebuilding
50:29
process
50:29
and
50:30
get
50:30
back
50:30
to
50:30
the
50:31
postseason
50:31
in
50:31
2006.
50:33
But
50:33
it
50:33
is
50:33
just
50:34
one
50:34
of
50:34
those
50:35
strange
50:35
things
50:35
where
50:36
it
50:36
all
50:36
clicked
50:38
in
50:38
2000,
50:38
despite
50:39
some
50:39
injuries,
50:40
despite
50:40
some
50:41
performances
50:41
that
50:42
they
50:42
hoped
50:43
would
50:43
be
50:43
better
50:43
from
50:43
some
50:43
players
50:44
and
50:44
didn't
50:44
get.
50:45
And
50:45
it's
50:46
a
50:46
moment
50:46
in
50:46
time.
50:46
And
50:46
it's
50:47
a
50:47
wonderful
50:47
thing
50:47
about
50:47
sports,
50:48
is
50:48
that
50:48
those
50:48
moments
50:49
in
50:49
times
50:49
can
50:49
happen
50:50
to
50:50
any
50:50
person
50:50
in
50:51
any
50:51
team.
50:51
And
50:52
you
50:52
talk
50:52
about
50:52
Bobby
50:53
Valentine.
50:53
We
50:54
mentioned
50:54
him
50:54
earlier.
50:54
There's
50:55
a
50:55
guy
50:55
with
50:57
probably
50:58
a
50:58
distinguished
50:58
managing
50:59
career.
50:59
I
51:00
mean,
51:00
he
51:00
didn't
51:01
win
51:01
the
51:01
big
51:01
ones,
51:02
but
51:03
he
51:03
lasted
51:04
a
51:04
long
51:04
time
51:04
with
51:05
a
51:05
few
51:05
teams.
51:06
And
51:06
it's
51:06
unfortunate
51:07
that
51:08
the
51:08
thing
51:08
he's
51:08
remembered
51:09
for
51:09
is
51:10
the
51:10
fake
51:10
mustache.
51:13
It's.
51:14
The
51:14
fake
51:15
mustache
51:15
is.
51:16
It's
51:16
just.
51:16
It's
51:17
funny
51:17
because
51:17
it's
51:18
a
51:18
funny
51:18
moment,
51:19
and
51:20
it
51:20
just.
51:20
It's
51:21
lightheartedness
51:22
and
51:22
it
51:22
shows
51:22
his
51:23
sense
51:23
of
51:23
humor
51:23
and
51:24
that
51:24
he
51:24
was
51:24
willing
51:24
to
51:24
do
51:25
something
51:25
just
51:25
kind
51:25
of
51:26
dumb,
51:26
because
51:27
why
51:27
not?
51:28
Ultimately,
51:28
what
51:29
is.
51:29
What
51:29
does
51:29
it
51:29
matter?
51:30
And
51:30
it's
51:30
something
51:30
that
51:31
you
51:31
would
51:31
never,
51:31
ever
51:31
in
51:32
a
51:32
million
51:32
years
51:32
see
51:33
somebody
51:33
on
51:33
the
51:33
Yankees
51:34
do.
51:34
And
51:34
I
51:34
think
51:34
that's.
51:35
That's
51:35
one
51:35
of
51:35
the
51:35
things
51:35
that
51:36
Mets
51:36
fans
51:36
like
51:36
about
51:37
the
51:37
organization
51:37
and
51:38
about
51:38
being
51:38
a
51:38
Mets
51:39
fan
51:39
is
51:39
that
51:39
they
51:39
are
51:39
willing
51:40
to
51:40
do
51:40
some
51:40
crazy
51:40
and
51:40
quirky
51:41
things
51:41
like
51:41
that
51:41
and
51:42
that
51:42
they.
51:42
They're
51:43
not
51:43
the
51:43
perceived
51:44
stiffness
51:45
or
51:45
stuffiness
51:46
of
51:46
the
51:46
New
51:46
York
51:47
Yankees.
51:48
Valentine's
51:49
an
51:49
interesting
51:49
person.
51:50
Interviewed
51:51
him
51:51
for
51:51
the
51:51
book
51:51
and
51:52
speaking
51:53
to
51:53
him,
51:53
I
51:53
mean,
51:54
I
51:54
understand
51:54
why
51:54
people
51:55
have
51:55
strong
51:55
views
51:55
about
51:56
him,
51:56
because
51:57
in
51:57
that
51:57
time,
51:57
you
51:58
can
51:58
see
51:58
everything
51:58
that
51:59
people
51:59
feel
51:59
about
51:59
him.
51:59
You
52:00
can
52:00
see
52:00
the,
52:00
the
52:00
baseball
52:01
genius
52:01
at
52:01
work.
52:02
You
52:02
can
52:03
see
52:03
some
52:03
of
52:03
the
52:03
standoffishness.
52:05
You
52:06
can
52:06
see
52:06
the
52:06
humor.
52:07
It's
52:07
all
52:08
there.
52:09
And
52:09
a
52:10
great
52:10
baseball
52:10
mind.
52:11
Ultimately
52:12
it
52:12
doesn't
52:12
pan
52:13
out
52:13
in
52:13
New
52:13
York,
52:14
ultimately
52:14
didn't
52:14
pan
52:15
out
52:15
in
52:15
Boston.
52:16
But
52:17
I
52:17
don't
52:17
think
52:17
anybody
52:17
would
52:17
argue
52:18
that
52:18
Bobby
52:18
Valentine
52:19
doesn't
52:19
know
52:20
about
52:20
baseball.
52:21
And
52:22
to
52:22
hear
52:23
him
52:23
talk
52:23
about
52:23
it
52:24
is,
52:24
it
52:24
was
52:24
a
52:25
great
52:25
experience
52:25
just
52:26
to
52:26
hear
52:26
him
52:26
describe
52:27
certain
52:27
games
52:27
and
52:27
just
52:28
the
52:28
things
52:28
that
52:29
as
52:29
a
52:29
fan
52:29
watching
52:30
a
52:30
game
52:30
you
52:30
might
52:31
not
52:31
consider,
52:31
might
52:31
not
52:32
even
52:32
realize
52:32
are
52:32
going
52:33
on.
52:33
Yeah.
52:33
Great
52:34
story.
52:34
Great
52:34
story,
52:35
Chris.
52:35
Well,
52:36
you're
52:36
going
52:36
to
52:37
be
52:37
up
52:37
in
52:37
Cooperstown,
52:38
so
52:38
I
52:39
am
52:39
going
52:39
to
52:39
try
52:39
to
52:40
stop
52:40
by
52:40
to
52:40
see
52:40
you.
52:41
Tell
52:41
the
52:42
folks
52:42
who
52:42
are
52:43
going
52:43
to
52:43
be
52:43
up
52:43
there
52:44
about
52:44
the
52:44
signing
52:45
up
52:45
in
52:45
Cooperstown.
52:47
Absolutely.
52:47
I'll
52:47
be
52:47
up
52:48
there
52:48
for
52:48
hall
52:48
of
52:48
Fame
52:49
induction
52:49
weekend
52:50
coming
52:50
up
52:50
this
52:50
weekend.
52:51
I'll
52:51
be
52:51
in
52:51
front
52:51
of
52:51
Willis
52:52
Monte
52:52
books
52:53
from
52:53
4
52:53
to
52:54
6
52:54
on
52:54
Friday
52:55
and
52:55
then
52:55
from
52:56
10
52:56
to
52:56
12
52:56
on
52:57
Saturday.
52:58
Please
52:58
stop
52:59
on
52:59
by.
52:59
I'll
53:00
be
53:00
happy
53:00
to
53:00
chat.
53:01
Willis
53:01
Morning
53:02
Books,
53:02
folks,
53:03
is
53:03
on
53:03
Main
53:03
street
53:04
in
53:04
Cooperstown.
53:05
It's
53:06
just
53:06
by
53:07
the
53:08
store.
53:08
I
53:08
think
53:09
it's
53:09
seventh
53:09
inning
53:09
stretch
53:10
with
53:10
the
53:11
big
53:11
marquee,
53:11
the
53:12
former
53:12
theater
53:12
out
53:13
there.
53:13
And
53:13
Chris
53:14
will
53:14
be
53:14
out
53:14
there.
53:15
Get
53:15
a
53:15
nice
53:16
signed
53:16
copy
53:16
of
53:18
have
53:18
youe
53:18
Tokens
53:19
Ready.
53:19
And
53:20
it's
53:20
a
53:21
great
53:21
story,
53:23
the
53:23
road
53:23
to
53:24
the
53:24
2000
53:24
subway
53:25
series.
53:26
The
53:26
moral
53:26
of
53:27
the
53:27
story
53:28
right
53:28
in
53:28
the
53:28
book,
53:29
folks,
53:29
you'll
53:29
have
53:29
to
53:29
read.
53:30
It
53:30
to
53:30
find
53:30
out.
53:31
Well,
53:31
Chris,
53:31
it's
53:32
been
53:32
a
53:32
pleasure.
53:33
I
53:33
thank
53:33
you
53:33
for
53:34
taking
53:34
time
53:34
out
53:34
of
53:34
your
53:35
Sunday
53:35
night
53:35
to
53:35
spend
53:36
it
53:36
with
53:36
us
53:36
here
53:36
at
53:36
Sports
53:37
Talk
53:37
New
53:37
York.
53:37
Again,
53:38
folks,
53:39
get
53:39
your
53:39
tokens
53:40
ready.
53:40
The
53:41
late
53:41
1990s
53:42
road
53:42
to
53:43
the
53:43
Subway
53:43
Series.
53:45
Thank
53:45
you
53:45
again,
53:45
Chris.
53:47
Bill,
53:47
thanks
53:47
so
53:47
much.
53:48
I'll
53:48
see
53:48
you
53:48
in
53:48
a
53:48
couple
53:48
days.
53:49
Gotcha.
53:49
That's
53:50
Chris
53:50
Donnelly,
53:50
ladies
53:51
and
53:51
gentlemen.
53:52
Up
53:52
next
53:52
on
53:52
Sports
53:53
Talk
53:53
New
53:53
York,
53:53
we
53:53
will
53:54
speak
53:54
with
53:54
Steve
53:54
Dittmore
53:55
about
53:56
his
53:56
new
53:56
book
53:57
on
53:57
the
53:57
Forgotten
53:58
Dodger.
53:59
Who
53:59
is
53:59
that?
53:59
You
54:00
gotta
54:00
stick
54:00
around
54:00
and
54:01
find
54:01
out.
54:34
The
54:34
views
54:34
expressed
54:35
in
54:35
the
54:35
previous
54:35
program
54:36
did
54:36
not
54:36
necessarily
54:37
represent
54:37
those
54:38
of
54:38
the.
54:38
Staff,
54:38
management
54:39
or
54:39
owners
54:39
of
54:40
wgb.