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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's Victory Monday, November twenty seventh. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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- 0:22Speaker 2: Jane pe Checker, get your own welcome in. It's Jaguars
- 0:28Speaker 2: Happy Hour, and it is Victory Monday. After a Jaguars
- 0:31Speaker 2: winning Houston over the Texans twenty four twenty one, Busy
- 0:36Speaker 2: two hours ahead as always on Monday, as we recap
- 0:39Speaker 2: the Jags win, the Jaguars getting it done twenty four
- 0:45Speaker 2: twenty one over the Houston Texans and now yes, first
- 0:49Speaker 2: place in the AFC South still but a two game lead,
- 0:54Speaker 2: and then now the number three seed in the AFC playoffs.
- 0:59Speaker 2: It's a lot to get to. We'll get to the fanatics,
- 1:01Speaker 2: fan questions, of course, and we will keep it real
- 1:04Speaker 2: as we always do. In the second hour of the
- 1:06Speaker 2: program on tin TNXL, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube JP
- 1:11Speaker 2: Shadwick Tony Vascelli at the Hyundai Studios of the Villa
- 1:14Speaker 2: Electric Center in Jacksonville, Pete Prisco down in South Florida.
- 1:19Speaker 2: The Jaguars, Pete, have now won seven of eight. In
- 1:22Speaker 2: good afternoon.
- 1:23Speaker 3: What's up, JP?
- 1:24Speaker 4: How are you guys?
- 1:25Speaker 5: Uh?
- 1:25Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean at one point yesterday before the late
- 1:27Speaker 6: games kicked off, they were actually the number one team
- 1:30Speaker 6: on the graphic for the number one seed.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Did you see that?
- 1:32Speaker 2: I did? That was pretty were about three hours? Yeah? Yeah.
- 1:37Speaker 6: And look we said it last week both to log
- 1:41Speaker 6: we double locked it. We hadn't done that in a while.
- 1:43Speaker 6: We double locked it. And if they won the game,
- 1:46Speaker 6: they were winning the division. That's the way I felt
- 1:48Speaker 6: about it. Whoever won that game was winning the division.
- 1:51Speaker 3: And now I still feel that way, even more so
- 1:54Speaker 3: so he was a big win, Pete.
- 1:56Speaker 5: I gotta correct you in one thing. It hadn't been
- 1:58Speaker 5: that long since we double walk because we double locked
- 2:00Speaker 5: the Titans game the week before.
- 2:04Speaker 4: Well yeah, but was.
- 2:05Speaker 2: It really yes?
- 2:06Speaker 3: Yeah? But then those ones, those easy ones.
- 2:12Speaker 2: That's a long time.
- 2:13Speaker 5: I will say coming out of the Colts, I locked
- 2:18Speaker 5: both the Titans and the Texans.
- 2:23Speaker 2: Was done.
- 2:23Speaker 3: I mean it's not exactly like you went out on.
- 2:27Speaker 5: You wouldn't do it, Pete. You were scared of the
- 2:29Speaker 5: lock of the Texans.
- 2:31Speaker 3: No, I wasn't.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you were.
- 2:34Speaker 6: I ultimately did it didn't I some of us just
- 2:37Speaker 6: don't have to do the work and the evaluation before that.
- 2:40Speaker 6: What if the quarterback had didn't play in the.
- 2:42Speaker 5: Game, that would have been a problem, been a problem.
- 2:48Speaker 3: But hey, I locked the Super Bowl? What the hell
- 2:51Speaker 3: am I dogging?
- 2:53Speaker 2: You know what?
- 2:53Speaker 4: Pete?
- 2:55Speaker 5: What's up about? Seven weeks ago? That looked like the
- 2:58Speaker 5: dumbest prediction ever, It's not looking so bad dumb right
- 3:01Speaker 5: now in the AFC the way the things I mean,
- 3:03Speaker 5: if you look at the AFC, well, and obviously we'll
- 3:06Speaker 5: talk about the game because that was a great game, and.
- 3:08Speaker 4: It really was fun.
- 3:09Speaker 5: It was a fun game to call. It was a
- 3:11Speaker 5: fun game to watch.
- 3:14Speaker 3: I went back and watched the tape today again, a lot.
- 3:17Speaker 5: Of stuff to unpack there, and we'll talk about it
- 3:20Speaker 5: for obviously the whole two hours. But if you sit
- 3:24Speaker 5: and look at the AFC, how many teams and Pep,
- 3:28Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you first have a legitimate shot right
- 3:31Speaker 5: now to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl?
- 3:39Speaker 6: One Kansas City two, Miami three, Baltimore four, Jacksonville.
- 3:53Speaker 5: I agree, I don't think there's anyone else.
- 3:56Speaker 3: But and now I'm gonna say this because I truly
- 4:00Speaker 3: believe this. Nobody in the AFC wants Buffalo in. You'd
- 4:06Speaker 3: much rather have Cleveland.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, or the.
- 4:11Speaker 6: Texans or Denver or whoever in rather than Buffalo.
- 4:16Speaker 3: Buffalo gets in. They're capable of getting hot and making a.
- 4:19Speaker 5: Run, yes they are, They're just not very good defensively.
- 4:22Speaker 3: The injuries.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree.
- 4:25Speaker 5: I mean, anytime you have a franchise quarterback like Josh
- 4:28Speaker 5: Allen Pete, you can get hot and there's no telling.
- 4:31Speaker 2: How far you could go.
- 4:33Speaker 5: So I would agree without one hundred percent.
- 4:34Speaker 4: But they answer your question is four.
- 4:36Speaker 5: There's four teams, I agree, and we're one of them.
- 4:39Speaker 5: And you're sitting you know, listen, a lot of things
- 4:41Speaker 5: can happen from now until the end of the season,
- 4:44Speaker 5: and all you have to do is remember this team
- 4:46Speaker 5: last year when we were sitting here in the text,
- 4:48Speaker 5: I think the Titans at this point had a five
- 4:50Speaker 5: game leadable and we came back and ended up winning
- 4:55Speaker 5: by a game.
- 4:57Speaker 4: Schedule has favored out, That's my point.
- 5:00Speaker 5: I mean, you look at I mean, who would have
- 5:01Speaker 5: thought we'd be seven and a half point favorites against
- 5:04Speaker 5: the Bengals. Well, that's because there's no Joe Burrow and
- 5:08Speaker 5: they're beat up. And now you look at the Cleveland Browns,
- 5:12Speaker 5: no quarterback, their best player on the team being.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Hurt, yeah, Garrett Garrett yesterday.
- 5:17Speaker 5: And their second best player was out early in uh
- 5:22Speaker 5: the back chub. I mean, so, I mean, and then
- 5:26Speaker 5: you look at your last two games against a team
- 5:29Speaker 5: that just fired their coach, you know, not even a
- 5:32Speaker 5: full year into it, in the Carolina Panthers and Frank Wright.
- 5:35Speaker 5: And then the Tennessee Titans, which we know what they
- 5:37Speaker 5: are right now.
- 5:39Speaker 6: And let's not forget Tampa Bay, who can't stop anybody
- 5:41Speaker 6: and have a ton of injuries on the defensive side
- 5:44Speaker 6: of the ball and there's in fighting going on there.
- 5:46Speaker 2: So I mean, really has softened.
- 5:48Speaker 6: To the then and then and then okay, the Ravens
- 5:52Speaker 6: don't have Mark Andrews, and yet that might not seem
- 5:54Speaker 6: like a major injury, but that is.
- 5:57Speaker 5: It is a major injury. But that's a good football team.
- 5:59Speaker 5: Peat that's gonna be. I mean, they can rush the passer,
- 6:02Speaker 5: they're good on defense, they're physical, I mean that and
- 6:07Speaker 5: again not I mean I actually I'm gonna be like Pete.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Because this is oh gosh, that's just what we need.
- 6:14Speaker 5: No, but I used to I used to like just
- 6:17Speaker 5: be so like against this looking ahead.
- 6:20Speaker 2: And Pete was right.
- 6:21Speaker 5: He used to say, it's not being a player, like
- 6:23Speaker 5: who cares? And I still believe from a player coach,
- 6:26Speaker 5: you gotta take. I love Doug's you know, mentality and
- 6:29Speaker 5: this team's mentality. Win the week, one week at a time.
- 6:32Speaker 5: That's how they should think. We don't have to think
- 6:34Speaker 5: that way. I want them to win the next two
- 6:37Speaker 5: games so bad to be ten and three because the
- 6:42Speaker 5: Ravens only have one game between that Sunday night. They
- 6:45Speaker 5: have but buye this week and then I'm not sure
- 6:46Speaker 5: who they play, but there's a good chance that both
- 6:53Speaker 5: teams could be ten and three on Sunday night football
- 6:56Speaker 5: in mid December.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Ravens have to buy this week they hosts the Rams.
- 7:01Speaker 5: So like, would it surprise you if they won that game? No,
- 7:05Speaker 5: that they're ten and three? Would it surprise you if
- 7:07Speaker 5: we beat the next two teams, which will be heavy
- 7:09Speaker 5: favorites in either No, you know how much you.
- 7:11Speaker 3: Be a heavy favorite at Cleveland, you'll be a favorite.
- 7:15Speaker 5: Uh, Pete, it depends if Miles Miles Garrett's out, no Chubb,
- 7:19Speaker 5: no Watson. Come on, I mean, come on.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Be a favorite, but not a heavy favorite.
- 7:25Speaker 5: Okay, a favorite whatever. I'm not gonna quibble. You know
- 7:30Speaker 5: how big that would be Sunday night football? Two ten
- 7:35Speaker 5: and three teams not just a divisions or playoffs on
- 7:39Speaker 5: the line, but number.
- 7:40Speaker 2: One seed on the line.
- 7:42Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk about this place rocking and Jacksonville as
- 7:46Speaker 5: an organization, as a franchise, getting the attention that they've
- 7:51Speaker 5: been wanting as a fan base for so long, and
- 7:55Speaker 5: the respect that would do it and all on. You're
- 8:00Speaker 5: in the national media, you know this. How big would
- 8:03Speaker 5: that game be on Sunday night? Lamar Jackson Trevor Lawrence,
- 8:07Speaker 5: ten and three Jags, ten and three Ravens. You know,
- 8:10Speaker 5: everything on the line with.
- 8:11Speaker 3: The Chief the Chiefs.
- 8:12Speaker 4: Let's not forget this chief still have three losses too.
- 8:14Speaker 3: That what you just talk about. It could be for
- 8:16Speaker 3: the one seed.
- 8:16Speaker 2: That's my point. Because the Packers is going to beat
- 8:18Speaker 2: him this week. Yeah I said it, lock it, Oh
- 8:22Speaker 2: wow in Lambeau Packers over cheers.
- 8:25Speaker 3: I don't you know that's not out of the your
- 8:28Speaker 3: out of them. It's it's possible. Let's just put it
- 8:30Speaker 3: that way.
- 8:30Speaker 4: I agree.
- 8:31Speaker 3: I agree JP. The way the Packers are playing that possible.
- 8:33Speaker 2: They're getting confidence right now.
- 8:35Speaker 3: Okay, back to back games for the Chiefs. That's tough
- 8:37Speaker 3: to do.
- 8:37Speaker 5: I didn't know we were supposed to lock other games,
- 8:39Speaker 5: but I just did it.
- 8:40Speaker 2: I don't care. There are no rules. I like it.
- 8:43Speaker 4: You know what that is?
- 8:44Speaker 6: That's JP was doing the Packers caught up all in
- 8:47Speaker 6: the emotion of it.
- 8:49Speaker 2: I came in there today. You know what he says
- 8:51Speaker 2: to me.
- 8:51Speaker 5: This ros like, oh man, the Packers are good.
- 8:54Speaker 2: I'm like, what I said, that is not what I said.
- 8:58Speaker 5: Slow down there, but his not So.
- 9:02Speaker 3: I did this on Thursday. We were in studio.
- 9:04Speaker 6: When we got done, I had I was driving home
- 9:06Speaker 6: to try and get home in time to watch the game,
- 9:09Speaker 6: and the game started and kicked off because we ran
- 9:12Speaker 6: into it, and I was listening to JP, and JP,
- 9:15Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you this, and I mean it.
- 9:17Speaker 3: You're very good at that. You're very good at doing
- 9:21Speaker 3: that play by play. I mean that.
- 9:23Speaker 6: And I'm not just trying to score brownie points with
- 9:26Speaker 6: your dad or anything. I just I generally mean.
- 9:30Speaker 5: But I want to go back to Sunday. Pete how
- 9:32Speaker 5: exciting would that be?
- 9:33Speaker 3: I mean it, it'd be great.
- 9:35Speaker 4: It'd be great.
- 9:35Speaker 6: It's great for that, it'd be great for the city.
- 9:37Speaker 6: It'd be great to start shedding some of those labels
- 9:40Speaker 6: that are still around about the fan base and and
- 9:44Speaker 6: all that stuff.
- 9:45Speaker 3: It would be fantastic. And here's one for you, Tony.
- 9:48Speaker 6: Is it at out of the realm of possibility that
- 9:52Speaker 6: this team runs the table? I, Pete, hey, let's go
- 9:57Speaker 6: through it.
- 9:59Speaker 2: You don't have to.
- 10:00Speaker 5: I'll do it because I know the exact so I
- 10:01Speaker 5: looked at this today.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Let me lead us through it. So since.
- 10:05Speaker 5: Night, yes, I mean yes, when when? Let me just
- 10:10Speaker 5: say right now, I'm locking it right now, that game's locked.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Monday Night Football locked.
- 10:14Speaker 4: Double locking it too.
- 10:16Speaker 3: It's a double lock, you know what.
- 10:17Speaker 2: I'm locking it to the rare, the rarest birds never
- 10:23Speaker 2: had the triple lot take a photo. It doesn't come
- 10:26Speaker 2: out that often. Oh no, that makes me nervous.
- 10:31Speaker 4: Wow, JP jumped on the truck.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Yes, make me nervous, all right.
- 10:38Speaker 5: So at the Browns, yeah, when I'm not ready the
- 10:42Speaker 5: weather weather there's but they're gonna they're gonna be I
- 10:45Speaker 5: think that Pete doesn't think heavy favorites. I think they're
- 10:47Speaker 5: gonna be at least three. I was gonna say five
- 10:51Speaker 5: and a half. And now just everyone listening. I've never
- 10:58Speaker 5: cammeled on sports. Not allowed to, well I'm not allowed to,
- 11:01Speaker 5: but even before heavy, I don't know how the line set.
- 11:05Speaker 5: I just think they're a much better team.
- 11:07Speaker 2: That's all you gotta see. Sorry, I don't want to
- 11:10Speaker 2: get in trouble. Yeah, too late Sunday Night football the
- 11:12Speaker 2: Ravens in week fifteen.
- 11:15Speaker 5: That's that right, There is a coin flip for me.
- 11:18Speaker 5: I think I think coming in, I think they.
- 11:21Speaker 4: Both win their their games.
- 11:22Speaker 6: What do you think they are they'll be Yeah, they
- 11:25Speaker 6: should win that game.
- 11:26Speaker 5: Well, if we're both ten and three, I still think
- 11:29Speaker 5: that the national the perception I think the Ravens will
- 11:33Speaker 5: be probably be a pick them game, which means there'll
- 11:36Speaker 5: be a slight favorite.
- 11:37Speaker 2: If you think about all these like terminologies and stuff, Well,
- 11:40Speaker 2: if you listen to anything on ESPN or NFL Network
- 11:44Speaker 2: or anything else, that's all they talk about them.
- 11:46Speaker 6: Pick them, pick them, and they can win that game.
- 11:49Speaker 6: So okay, let's just say they win that game. By
- 11:51Speaker 6: game National TV.
- 11:51Speaker 3: They play, they played really well.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Right, and then they're at Tampa Bay on Christmas Eve,
- 11:55Speaker 2: another big favorite.
- 11:57Speaker 3: Should win that game?
- 11:58Speaker 2: Yep, home against the Panthers, new might be a double
- 12:01Speaker 2: digit favorite. Should win that game at the Titans. You're
- 12:05Speaker 2: you're not going to rest.
- 12:06Speaker 5: If you're, if you're if you're at that point thirteen
- 12:10Speaker 5: and three and the number one seeds online, you're gonna
- 12:13Speaker 5: win that game.
- 12:14Speaker 3: So okay, So my prediction before the season was.
- 12:17Speaker 6: Thirteen, they don't win thirty. If they don't win thirteen,
- 12:20Speaker 6: I said, it's a failure.
- 12:22Speaker 4: Did I not?
- 12:23Speaker 5: And you and you had them at fourteen and three?
- 12:25Speaker 5: Did you not are thirteen and four? I can't remember
- 12:27Speaker 5: thirteen to four thirty four or wait, maybe it was
- 12:31Speaker 5: fourteen to three. I can't remember him in fourteenth three.
- 12:33Speaker 5: But I said, if they don't win at least thirteen,
- 12:35Speaker 5: it's a failure. Well, if they run the table, what
- 12:37Speaker 5: do they win it?
- 12:38Speaker 4: Fourteen?
- 12:39Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's and should be and should Had they
- 12:44Speaker 6: not gone for it at midfield against the Chiefs, they'd
- 12:46Speaker 6: be going for fifteen and.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Knocked up in at home field advantage.
- 12:50Speaker 2: There we go with the decisions.
- 12:52Speaker 5: I'll say this though, and this is why I feel
- 12:56Speaker 5: really good about this team. And we'll pivot here to
- 13:00Speaker 5: the game yesterday. Yeah, and I'll say one comment JP
- 13:02Speaker 5: and'll hand it.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Off to you, and then we'll have to go to break.
- 13:04Speaker 5: Yes, that game should not have been as close as
- 13:06Speaker 5: it was. Oh, the Jaguars are a better team, and
- 13:11Speaker 5: we'll talk about why I believe that and why that
- 13:13Speaker 5: game should have been a double digit victory.
- 13:16Speaker 2: That's all straight ahead. We'll get into the Jaguars win
- 13:18Speaker 2: over the Houston Texans twenty four to twenty one. Jags
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- 13:45Speaker 7: For us to be able to continue to control our
- 13:47Speaker 7: own destiny. And it's up to us and how we play,
- 13:50Speaker 7: and we just keep winning. We'll do anything to worry about.
- 13:52Speaker 7: We're gonna find ourselves in a good spot. So I
- 13:55Speaker 7: think in that sense, it's a huge game and send
- 13:59Speaker 7: a message. I don't know that, but I just think
- 14:01Speaker 7: that to take more control of this division and to
- 14:04Speaker 7: take that next step, it's a little fire selves. I
- 14:06Speaker 7: think it's a huge game and we'll do a great
- 14:07Speaker 7: job to find a way to win.
- 14:09Speaker 2: That's Trevor Lawrence, of course, Jaguars quarterback and welcome back.
- 14:12Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Holme, Loans, JP Shadwick,
- 14:16Speaker 2: Tony Boselli, and Jacksonville Pete Prisco down in South Florida.
- 14:19Speaker 2: We're on ten ten XLAM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube
- 14:24Speaker 2: the fanatics fan questions in the second hour, and we
- 14:27Speaker 2: will keep it real as always. Trevor Lawrence had his
- 14:31Speaker 2: second best passing yardage day in his career three sixty four,
- 14:35Speaker 2: had a touchdown, pass had an interception, but he also
- 14:39Speaker 2: had a rushing score on a sneak where he jumped
- 14:41Speaker 2: over and reached the ball over the plane for a touchdown.
- 14:44Speaker 2: So Trevor settling in now when the time is right,
- 14:48Speaker 2: to settle in and play really solid, sound all around football.
- 14:52Speaker 2: So question for you in ps Tony, do we want to.
- 14:56Speaker 5: Go over the good or what needs improved?
- 15:00Speaker 2: First? Can we start with the good? The team one again?
- 15:03Speaker 5: I'm asking the first place.
- 15:05Speaker 2: I just told them there's sky's falling.
- 15:08Speaker 5: I'm no skyst I just said they're going fourteen to three.
- 15:11Speaker 2: What are you talking about can we like because this
- 15:14Speaker 2: isn't show them some flowers.
- 15:16Speaker 5: Yes, I'll show flowers. But if you want to be
- 15:18Speaker 5: a fourteen and three team and you want to go
- 15:21Speaker 5: where Pete said, go to the super Bowl and go
- 15:23Speaker 5: further than Pete said and win it like you don't
- 15:26Speaker 5: want flowers.
- 15:27Speaker 3: And JP doesn't mean everything is the greatest thing.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Else aware but nobody you can give them credit for
- 15:33Speaker 2: doing something.
- 15:33Speaker 5: I just gave them credit.
- 15:35Speaker 4: And you don't walk about them going fourteen to three?
- 15:37Speaker 3: What are you talking about?
- 15:39Speaker 5: They don't want flowers. Competitors want to know what it's
- 15:41Speaker 5: going to.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Take to get better. You asked me the question because.
- 15:44Speaker 5: I'm going to do both. I think we should start
- 15:46Speaker 5: with the good took you.
- 15:47Speaker 2: That's all. What are we fighting about?
- 15:49Speaker 5: Let me tell you what I think is good Pete,
- 15:50Speaker 5: then you can jump in one. I love that we
- 15:56Speaker 5: are getting more vertical in the passing game. I love
- 16:00Speaker 5: that were stretching.
- 16:00Speaker 3: They got they got my memmo. They got my memo,
- 16:03Speaker 3: I got mine got.
- 16:05Speaker 5: You don't need to do that, Peri. Yourd audio is
- 16:06Speaker 5: not that good. The uh I loved it.
- 16:11Speaker 2: They're more vertical. I don't know if that's the addition
- 16:16Speaker 2: of Za.
- 16:16Speaker 5: I don't know if it's the fact that the offensive
- 16:19Speaker 5: line is protecting better. I don't know what it is.
- 16:21Speaker 5: It's all that I think it probably is, and I
- 16:24Speaker 5: love that. I like that the offense back to back
- 16:26Speaker 5: weeks did a good job of giving Trevor space and
- 16:30Speaker 5: time to operate.
- 16:32Speaker 2: That was a good job by that group.
- 16:34Speaker 5: I love how I really they went down fourteen to
- 16:39Speaker 5: three after just an awful miss call by the officials. Just,
- 16:44Speaker 5: I mean, my goodness, I mean, how do you miss
- 16:46Speaker 5: that Pete? I mean, he's getting tackled that led to
- 16:50Speaker 5: the interception. Houston goes down in a game that Jacksonville
- 16:53Speaker 5: have been dominating statistically and really controlling it. Time of possession,
- 16:57Speaker 5: first out, I mean, any metric you want to talk about,
- 16:59Speaker 5: the whole Yes, the hook, yes, just I mean, just
- 17:02Speaker 5: a terrible miscall lead's an interception. Houston goes up fourteen thirteen,
- 17:07Speaker 5: and that place is rocking it. I mean the teams
- 17:12Speaker 5: good teams, or teams that are average, or teams that
- 17:15Speaker 5: were learning to win, or teams that you know, maybe
- 17:18Speaker 5: lack a little confidence. They lose that game. It gets
- 17:20Speaker 5: away from them right there. I loved how they came
- 17:24Speaker 5: and responded, got the ball, march it downfield, scored a touchdown,
- 17:28Speaker 5: got to and made it twenty one to fourteen. Like
- 17:31Speaker 5: the ability to establish their presence and dominance and like, no,
- 17:37Speaker 5: we're the better team. Bad play, tough call, not whatever
- 17:42Speaker 5: you want to say, didn't go, but we didn't let
- 17:45Speaker 5: that snowball on us, like we didn't let the momentum shift.
- 17:49Speaker 5: And then the final thing, I'll say that I just
- 17:51Speaker 5: loved when they had to get a sack late, when
- 17:55Speaker 5: they had to pressure CJ Stroud and I thought, you know,
- 17:59Speaker 5: people were like they didn't get enough pressure at times
- 18:02Speaker 5: and CJ shried to too much time, Yes, no doubt
- 18:04Speaker 5: about it, and they could have kept them in the
- 18:06Speaker 5: pocket better. But I thought their back half game plan
- 18:09Speaker 5: was really good. A lot of zone, keep everything in
- 18:11Speaker 5: front of you, don't let everything get over the top.
- 18:13Speaker 2: I thought they did.
- 18:14Speaker 4: I drop a lot of guys.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 18:15Speaker 5: I liked the game plan there. They just said listen,
- 18:17Speaker 5: he's like, we're not going to get killed. But when
- 18:21Speaker 5: they had to get pressure, Josh Allen brought pressure and
- 18:27Speaker 5: others did too, but like led by Josh Allen, I
- 18:29Speaker 5: mean that that was critical and Tony.
- 18:33Speaker 6: The thing about Josh Allen is Josh Allen had two
- 18:36Speaker 6: That sack right there, he was unblocked right the other
- 18:39Speaker 6: the other what was the other sack?
- 18:40Speaker 3: There was another sack that was a gimme too.
- 18:42Speaker 2: It was on the uh he had a second and
- 18:45Speaker 2: a half in the final drive.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Well, but what gimme?
- 18:48Speaker 6: He had many many other rushes that were better than
- 18:53Speaker 6: the sacks where he influenced the quarterback and he got help.
- 18:57Speaker 6: I think he I think he had eight pressures, No twelve,
- 19:00Speaker 6: I think.
- 19:00Speaker 5: He was twelve felt pressures twelve pressures eight against Larmie Tunseel.
- 19:06Speaker 3: I mean, and that's a good tackle he was beating up.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 19:09Speaker 3: You know what that goes back to, has he become
- 19:12Speaker 3: a game wrecker right now?
- 19:14Speaker 5: He wrecked the game sack and a half when it mattered.
- 19:17Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's like because he's become a game wrecker,
- 19:20Speaker 6: and you know what else, he's become a very rich man.
- 19:24Speaker 2: Yeah. And think about that last sec that he split
- 19:26Speaker 2: with Trayvon Walker is a nine yard loss. They got
- 19:29Speaker 2: seven yards back on the next play, winning complete on
- 19:32Speaker 2: the next play. That's the difference in that field goal
- 19:34Speaker 2: going internet.
- 19:35Speaker 5: Absolutely they go to overtime right without those sacks.
- 19:39Speaker 6: I think there were a couple of rushes. Some of
- 19:41Speaker 6: his rushes where he didn't get a sack were better
- 19:43Speaker 6: than the ones where he did.
- 19:44Speaker 3: I'll tell you that's how that's how good he played
- 19:47Speaker 3: on Sunday that.
- 19:48Speaker 5: Laramie Tunseel got away from got away with some holding too.
- 19:53Speaker 2: He did.
- 19:54Speaker 3: But but you know what, Trayvon Walker was better.
- 19:57Speaker 5: On Yes, yes, he like Robinson Harris had some good
- 20:01Speaker 5: pressure at times. I thought Trayvon did a good job. So,
- 20:06Speaker 5: like those are the positives like that, I mean, that
- 20:08Speaker 5: was a I mean it's just a completely like tough
- 20:13Speaker 5: game on the road.
- 20:15Speaker 2: You know it's going to be tough in the division.
- 20:18Speaker 5: And that's He's a good, well coached football team with
- 20:21Speaker 5: a good quarterback and a good set of skill players,
- 20:25Speaker 5: an offensive line who's healthy. I mean, they like they
- 20:28Speaker 5: did it, like I was thoroughly impressed of how they
- 20:32Speaker 5: handled the diversity, how they fought through it. They did
- 20:35Speaker 5: not play the best. We'll get into where there's some
- 20:37Speaker 5: question marks and they need to improve, but overall, like
- 20:40Speaker 5: you want flowers, that's what good teams do. Good teams
- 20:44Speaker 5: go on the road in the division. Late November early
- 20:47Speaker 5: December and win tight games.
- 20:48Speaker 2: That's what they do and that's.
- 20:50Speaker 3: What Black defensive front.
- 20:53Speaker 2: I agree.
- 20:54Speaker 6: Could I what's up with Devon Hamilton? I mean, he
- 20:57Speaker 6: wasn't playing well, but he's a healthy scratch.
- 20:59Speaker 5: I think, Pete.
- 21:00Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 21:00Speaker 5: Maybe JP knows more than I do. My senses that
- 21:03Speaker 5: they tried to bring him back. I think they tried
- 21:05Speaker 5: to bring him back too quick, and I don't think
- 21:07Speaker 5: he had all his strength and standing him back after
- 21:09Speaker 5: missing that time.
- 21:11Speaker 3: I didn't think he was the same power guy.
- 21:13Speaker 6: He looked like he maybe with the back injury, he
- 21:15Speaker 6: couldn't lift weights or something like that.
- 21:17Speaker 5: And so I think they I think they made a decision,
- 21:19Speaker 5: and because he's not there's no injury, they don't have
- 21:21Speaker 5: to disclose it. My guess is Pete, and this is
- 21:24Speaker 5: just me guessing, you know. I think they said, listen,
- 21:27Speaker 5: let's get this guy healthy and strong and back to
- 21:30Speaker 5: the player that he was in camp and give him
- 21:32Speaker 5: time to get that strength and physical physicality back and
- 21:36Speaker 5: have him for the stretch.
- 21:37Speaker 3: Run for the Super Bowl, for the Super Bowl run.
- 21:39Speaker 2: Right, that's right, that's right, Pete.
- 21:42Speaker 3: I mean, here we come. That would be a big
- 21:45Speaker 3: giant what they do on that defensive.
- 21:48Speaker 5: Yes, he's a good player. We saw it. We saw
- 21:50Speaker 5: it last year, we saw it in pre in camp.
- 21:52Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to you know, look, we've we've criticized
- 21:55Speaker 6: Trayvon Walker a lot. Okay, we have for not not
- 21:59Speaker 6: saying is not a good full ballplayer just first pass
- 22:01Speaker 6: rush ability. I want to give him credit because he's
- 22:04Speaker 6: getting better at it. He's he's a powerful man. He
- 22:07Speaker 6: knocks people back. And you watch that tape and he
- 22:11Speaker 6: exploded into dudes, Tony, I mean, he was knocking him
- 22:14Speaker 6: back and with the flip side has always been Hutchinson.
- 22:20Speaker 6: And if you watch the Lions on Thursday, he was
- 22:23Speaker 6: a no show.
- 22:25Speaker 3: No show. Well, there's been a couple of games like
- 22:27Speaker 3: that for the Lion.
- 22:28Speaker 5: Maybe the other comparison we should make after the year
- 22:31Speaker 5: that Thibodeau's happening.
- 22:32Speaker 4: Because well that's you know, that's what I like.
- 22:35Speaker 2: But yeah, but he's pretty good.
- 22:38Speaker 6: I mean, but Hutchinson, Hutchinson's the guy you know that
- 22:42Speaker 6: you compare him to and and give Walker credit because
- 22:45Speaker 6: he's getting better, he's more, he's still never even his
- 22:48Speaker 6: hands have gotten better, I think, and his moves have
- 22:51Speaker 6: gotten a little bit better.
- 22:52Speaker 3: He's just not twitchy well.
- 22:55Speaker 5: And he might never be a great pass rusher like
- 22:59Speaker 5: a dom It. That doesn't mean he can't be a
- 23:01Speaker 5: really dang good player because he is. He does a
- 23:05Speaker 5: lot of things, and I agree he is improving, There's
- 23:07Speaker 5: no doubt about it. And you got to give him
- 23:08Speaker 5: credit and uh and he's impactful.
- 23:11Speaker 6: I mean he I liked when they put him on
- 23:13Speaker 6: the same side with Josh Allen and they put him
- 23:17Speaker 6: down and put Alan outside of him.
- 23:20Speaker 5: He presses the pocket, he pushes the Yeah, he squeezes it,
- 23:25Speaker 5: and that's important in timmy rush in the passer.
- 23:27Speaker 2: So there's the flowers, JP, thank you. We'll come back
- 23:30Speaker 2: and we'll bash them.
- 23:31Speaker 5: Not gonna bash them, just things.
- 23:34Speaker 4: Got to bring the next you gotta bring.
- 23:36Speaker 3: You gotta be real. People want to hear the real.
- 23:38Speaker 3: We keep it real all the time on this show JP.
- 23:40Speaker 2: In the second album, I second, I mean.
- 23:43Speaker 5: Pete, this guy does one Thanksgiving game any things in
- 23:49Speaker 5: Ohio state. Pete, maybe next time you shouldn't be so
- 23:53Speaker 5: nice because it gets his head a little bigot, I believe.
- 23:57Speaker 3: Much bigger though.
- 23:58Speaker 2: That's part And I'm sitting next to this guy has
- 24:02Speaker 2: the biggest head of old time.
- 24:03Speaker 6: Piece eight seven eighths right there the helmet side.
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- 24:42Speaker 8: Grow because obviously when I look back, I know I
- 24:44Speaker 8: had the best game ever. I don't think all my
- 24:46Speaker 8: riskers were perfect, you know, so there's definitely room for
- 24:48Speaker 8: the improvement. Books I played against the all potoc for
- 24:51Speaker 8: you and for me, man, I want to compete against
- 24:53Speaker 8: the blows like that. I want to beat them.
- 24:54Speaker 3: Awesome.
- 24:55Speaker 8: For me, I know I have to get better, and
- 24:58Speaker 8: but I got the ones that counted and I can
- 25:01Speaker 8: just move on.
- 25:03Speaker 2: That's Josh Allen. He did get the ones that counted,
- 25:05Speaker 2: that's for sure. The second half on the Key Drive
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- 25:33Speaker 2: oh four six three three two thousand. What a game
- 25:37Speaker 2: that should be a week from tonight. So no Happy
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- 25:42Speaker 3: That's bad man. I can't believe that they're cutting us
- 25:44Speaker 3: out next week.
- 25:46Speaker 5: I mean, we should do PREVIEWLS Pete, you and I
- 25:49Speaker 5: should do pregame.
- 25:50Speaker 3: Well, you know we can't do h We couldn't do
- 25:52Speaker 3: this show because we have the criticize.
- 25:57Speaker 5: We could break down, we could give the game plan.
- 26:00Speaker 2: You know, it's funny like we've never had to step
- 26:03Speaker 2: away because we haven't had a Monday night football game
- 26:05Speaker 2: since twenty eleven. Long time.
- 26:08Speaker 6: And then the whole time we've ever done this show,
- 26:10Speaker 6: we've never had did not do it.
- 26:12Speaker 3: That's amazing.
- 26:13Speaker 2: How about think about that. That's embarrassing. It's what it is.
- 26:17Speaker 2: That's what it is. But it doesn't matter anymore though. Nope,
- 26:20Speaker 2: they're gonna play it on the good football team. Hey,
- 26:23Speaker 2: the Jaguars defense there, you talk about some of the sacks,
- 26:26Speaker 2: Roy Robertson Harris got one, Trey Walker getting some pressure.
- 26:32Speaker 3: Did he get credit for a half on that one?
- 26:34Speaker 2: Yeah? Walker did, yes, the last one yep.
- 26:37Speaker 3: So what's he up to now?
- 26:38Speaker 2: Five four and a half?
- 26:40Speaker 3: Four and a half?
- 26:42Speaker 4: Am I?
- 26:43Speaker 2: Right?
- 26:43Speaker 3: Baby?
- 26:43Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah. But you talked about the drives after
- 26:48Speaker 2: the interception in the second half, right, Jaguar's gonna touch
- 26:51Speaker 2: down the next possession of field goal possession after that, Well,
- 26:54Speaker 2: JAG's defense stood up big in those next two drives too,
- 26:57Speaker 2: and got him off the field both times a punt
- 26:59Speaker 2: and a turn over on downs. And if they're not
- 27:02Speaker 2: doing their part there, then they can't break it back
- 27:04Speaker 2: open again.
- 27:05Speaker 5: No, I thought, listen, I thought defense played good football.
- 27:10Speaker 5: I mean they're I like what Mike Caldlell was doing.
- 27:13Speaker 5: He has a good plan, he understands his personnel. You
- 27:16Speaker 5: did it without one of your best players and Tyson
- 27:20Speaker 5: Campbell out again. I thought Monterig Brown had some moments,
- 27:24Speaker 5: but overall.
- 27:26Speaker 2: It was some bad moments.
- 27:28Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but he held up overall.
- 27:31Speaker 2: Yeah, he held up.
- 27:33Speaker 4: I mean, think about it.
- 27:34Speaker 6: The one chunk play they got what was that the
- 27:36Speaker 6: long past Darius Williams got to make that play?
- 27:39Speaker 5: Well, they ended up getting called back anyways, because it
- 27:42Speaker 5: was the legal procedure on them.
- 27:43Speaker 3: Oh that's right, but he's got to make it.
- 27:45Speaker 2: He's there, he was there to make it.
- 27:47Speaker 5: When that ball was hanging, I'm like, that's a pick.
- 27:51Speaker 5: But by the way, you see, did you see how
- 27:53Speaker 5: far CJ. I think he traveled. But if it wouldn't
- 27:59Speaker 5: if they would have to hit the ground because he
- 28:01Speaker 5: high pointed it at sixty five, that's going like sixty
- 28:03Speaker 5: eight sixty.
- 28:04Speaker 3: Nine, and it makes it look easy.
- 28:06Speaker 5: Does Oh my gosh, I thing just kept on going
- 28:08Speaker 5: and going and going.
- 28:09Speaker 6: You know what I like about him real quick is
- 28:11Speaker 6: the way he resets himself and keeps his head up
- 28:14Speaker 6: and finds somebody you know what I mean. He moves
- 28:16Speaker 6: sometimes he moves a little too soon. That's a young
- 28:18Speaker 6: quarterback when there's not pressure there. But he somehow always
- 28:22Speaker 6: seems to set himself again and find his feet and
- 28:25Speaker 6: then throw it you know who.
- 28:26Speaker 5: He reminds me of Pete how he is such a
- 28:30Speaker 5: pass first quarterback and even when he breaks contained and
- 28:34Speaker 5: is scrambling, he is not looking to run because there
- 28:37Speaker 5: were times he could have run, right. He reminds me
- 28:40Speaker 5: of Patrick Mahomes. Like Patrick Mahomes when he is breaking contained,
- 28:44Speaker 5: is never looking. His first instinct is never to run.
- 28:47Speaker 5: It is to just take a killer shot.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Down the field and do something. And that's he can
- 28:52Speaker 2: also throw it seventy yards can And I'm not saying CJ.
- 28:55Speaker 5: Stroud's at the level of Mahomes by any means at
- 28:57Speaker 5: this point in his young career, but it similar trait
- 29:01Speaker 5: of how his eyes always it's It's a high praise
- 29:04Speaker 5: at least for me in my book, for a quarterback
- 29:06Speaker 5: to be able to do that. And nothing wrong with running,
- 29:08Speaker 5: I mean run.
- 29:10Speaker 6: Yeah, Like there's a like even the shot he hit
- 29:12Speaker 6: to Nico Collins, he kind of just moved a little
- 29:14Speaker 6: bit and hit him. And he hit Dell a couple
- 29:17Speaker 6: of times, you know, with that those kind of throws,
- 29:20Speaker 6: He's good at it. And and you know, I told
- 29:22Speaker 6: you a couple of weeks ago, I said he reminded
- 29:25Speaker 6: I'm not comparing him to Marino, but the way he
- 29:27Speaker 6: makes it effortless looking and throwing the football reminds me
- 29:31Speaker 6: of Marino in terms of the ball gets out quick
- 29:35Speaker 6: and it gets onto the guy quickly, and he and
- 29:37Speaker 6: he makes the right decisions.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Again, there are plays and you saw him, Tony. He
- 29:42Speaker 3: leaves pockets at times when he shouldn't leave, because that's
- 29:44Speaker 3: what a young quarterback does. But he's going to be
- 29:47Speaker 3: special now.
- 29:48Speaker 6: I mean for years and years this organization is gonna
- 29:51Speaker 6: have to deal with that guy because he's gonna be special.
- 29:53Speaker 5: Well, two things they'll say about that. One, you want
- 29:55Speaker 5: to talk about the ball again. On top of some
- 29:57Speaker 5: people quickly Trevor made through some laser shots he did.
- 30:02Speaker 5: He has a howitzer for a right arm too, Like
- 30:05Speaker 5: holy cow.
- 30:07Speaker 6: My favorite plays of the whole season from him happened
- 30:10Speaker 6: on on on Sunday.
- 30:12Speaker 2: Which one the Ridley throw?
- 30:15Speaker 3: The deep one? Oh did I say that is because
- 30:18Speaker 3: he held the safety in the middle of the field
- 30:20Speaker 3: with his head and.
- 30:21Speaker 2: Then was that the drop the drop in the first half.
- 30:24Speaker 6: No, I'm talking about the one he hit the shot
- 30:26Speaker 6: the deep cross the way both deep over where he's
- 30:31Speaker 6: kind of even it's almost like he's looking still to
- 30:34Speaker 6: the middle when he makes that throw. It's all it's
- 30:37Speaker 6: almost no look. It's not quite no look, but you remember.
- 30:41Speaker 3: Of it. That might have been my favorite.
- 30:43Speaker 6: And that's confident in his offensive line, in the ability
- 30:47Speaker 6: to stand there and make that throw.
- 30:50Speaker 2: He made some throws. I mean, man, he's got an
- 30:53Speaker 2: arm too.
- 30:54Speaker 5: And my second point is the AFC South is gonna
- 30:59Speaker 5: be fun for a long time. And that's gonna be
- 31:02Speaker 5: everyone talks about. You know, the Titans are our big rival.
- 31:06Speaker 5: I bet you in three years it's that everyone will
- 31:08Speaker 5: it will be the Texans because it will be Stroud
- 31:10Speaker 5: and Lawrence and those two are and because this is
- 31:13Speaker 5: the other thing that that organization, the Texans have now
- 31:17Speaker 5: they have a good head coach, a good leader. And
- 31:19Speaker 5: so if you look at the two, if you look
- 31:21Speaker 5: at the Jaguars and the Texans, both have franchise quarterbacks,
- 31:26Speaker 5: both guys who are leaders of organizations, can do everything
- 31:30Speaker 5: you want them to do on and off the field.
- 31:33Speaker 5: And you have two head coaches. Our guy has way
- 31:36Speaker 5: more experience and has a Super Bowl ring, but two
- 31:38Speaker 5: head coaches who are leader of men and understand and
- 31:42Speaker 5: are respected and former players, former players do it the
- 31:46Speaker 5: right way. I just think, and I said it after
- 31:49Speaker 5: the game on the air, this is gonna be fun.
- 31:53Speaker 5: I mean it's gonna be and they have tons of assets.
- 31:56Speaker 5: It's gonna be competitive, it's gonna be back, it's gonna
- 31:59Speaker 5: be great youth.
- 32:00Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's a lot of good. It's a
- 32:02Speaker 2: lot of fun.
- 32:03Speaker 3: So here's the other thing.
- 32:04Speaker 6: If okay, if the quarterbacks in the division all end
- 32:07Speaker 6: up being and I still think Levis is gonna be good.
- 32:09Speaker 6: I might be in the minority on that, but that
- 32:11Speaker 6: team around them is awful, and Richardson has a chance.
- 32:15Speaker 6: That division could be really really good for a long time.
- 32:18Speaker 2: Beat up each other.
- 32:19Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll be, but it'll be fine. It'll be good,
- 32:21Speaker 5: good football. So but there's things they need to improve
- 32:26Speaker 5: on JP. Yeah, things they need to do.
- 32:29Speaker 2: Well, where should we begin.
- 32:31Speaker 5: I'm gonna start. I don't care where Pete wants to start.
- 32:34Speaker 5: I'm going to start. That game should not have been
- 32:36Speaker 5: as close, nope, as it was. They they have to
- 32:41Speaker 5: improve on short yardage and they have to stop doing
- 32:46Speaker 5: things that shoots them in the foot.
- 32:49Speaker 2: Why are they struggling on the short yardage?
- 32:52Speaker 3: Center doesn't get much push. Is one reason I.
- 32:54Speaker 2: Think the center plays high.
- 32:57Speaker 5: At the end of the day because I as an
- 33:01Speaker 5: offensive lineman, like short yardage, I always felt like was
- 33:05Speaker 5: on us and the tight end. Obviously you have to
- 33:08Speaker 5: have a scheme and everything, but at the end of
- 33:10Speaker 5: the day, I was like, the five guys aut front,
- 33:12Speaker 5: our job is to move people. And I mean Mike Maser,
- 33:16Speaker 5: the late Mike Maser is my offensive line coach, and
- 33:18Speaker 5: the goal line. He used to say it all the time,
- 33:20Speaker 5: to the point.
- 33:20Speaker 2: Where it just drove me crazy.
- 33:23Speaker 5: Score with your man. And his whole point was like, listen,
- 33:27Speaker 5: if we score with the defensive line and push them
- 33:29Speaker 5: into the laps of those linebackers, we're going to score
- 33:33Speaker 5: every time because the back will just follow us. And
- 33:36Speaker 5: so there's a physicality to the game of football that
- 33:38Speaker 5: you have to have and it shows up a lot
- 33:40Speaker 5: of times in those short yardage.
- 33:42Speaker 6: Okay, go to the short yardage from yesterday, which ones
- 33:44Speaker 6: that you're talking about, because I haven't run the ball
- 33:49Speaker 6: well specifically, their yards per carry isn't very good this year.
- 33:53Speaker 2: Well, I want to get to that in a second.
- 33:55Speaker 5: There's not one that steps out, but it sure doesn't
- 33:59Speaker 5: feel like based on the play call, they have confidence.
- 34:01Speaker 2: How about that just.
- 34:03Speaker 5: To line up on the goal line the pitch, Just
- 34:07Speaker 5: line up and beat people up.
- 34:09Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't just run right smack dab in the middle.
- 34:12Speaker 6: Does not having a full back bother you?
- 34:14Speaker 2: No, because you can put tight ends out there.
- 34:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 34:17Speaker 5: So, but that's a long And I said short yards
- 34:20Speaker 5: because it wasn't like it was the worst short yardage
- 34:23Speaker 5: game for us by any means. But I was going
- 34:26Speaker 5: taking that to lead me to the biggest concern or
- 34:29Speaker 5: the biggest issue that they need to solve for an
- 34:31Speaker 5: offense is this is five straight games where Travis etn
- 34:33Speaker 5: has less than four yards of carry and this team
- 34:38Speaker 5: is not running the ball effectively right now. Until Travis
- 34:41Speaker 5: had that twenty yard scamper in the fourth quarter, he
- 34:45Speaker 5: was averaging under two yards of carry. And it wasn't
- 34:47Speaker 5: like Press wasn't calling it.
- 34:49Speaker 4: At sixteen I think it was sixteen.
- 34:52Speaker 5: It was fifteen carries Pete for like one point seven
- 34:55Speaker 5: yards and then.
- 34:56Speaker 6: He bound and the one he had actually had what
- 34:58Speaker 6: like eight yards on he made the play by bouncing it.
- 35:01Speaker 5: There was a hole there, that's right, and so and
- 35:04Speaker 5: I think it's it starts with the offensive line tight
- 35:07Speaker 5: ends next. But I don't think and I have again
- 35:11Speaker 5: no inside information, no one's told me anything. I don't
- 35:15Speaker 5: think Travis is one hundred percent. I think he's beat up.
- 35:18Speaker 5: He had the chest injury yesterday. He did not look
- 35:21Speaker 5: the same to me as finishing runs yesterday, because he
- 35:25Speaker 5: has a physicality and the stats back it up of
- 35:27Speaker 5: his broken tackles and yards after contact and everything else.
- 35:31Speaker 5: And it didn't seem like he had the same pop.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Like the goal line play was right before halftime was strange,
- 35:37Speaker 2: looking like he was he didn't. He kind of turned, Yeah,
- 35:41Speaker 2: he did, like didn't want it halfway before that, I believe,
- 35:45Speaker 2: so I believe he had there.
- 35:47Speaker 6: You go, well, there's why he turned, and that's a
- 35:49Speaker 6: guy he should run that guy.
- 35:51Speaker 5: I'm just telling you. Right there, when it was one
- 35:52Speaker 5: on one, that play was blocked. I watched the film, Pete.
- 35:55Speaker 5: I'm sure you did too. That's a that's a play
- 35:58Speaker 5: that you're one on one with that you got to
- 36:00Speaker 5: go win.
- 36:03Speaker 6: Look on that play, Harrison kind of let his guy
- 36:07Speaker 6: go a little bit a little.
- 36:10Speaker 5: But Travis just like this doesn't look like the same
- 36:14Speaker 5: Travis we saw in the first half of the season.
- 36:17Speaker 6: No, and maybe that's why they're given. They've started pulling
- 36:20Speaker 6: back some of the carries from him. They keep them,
- 36:22Speaker 6: get them fresh for the stretch run.
- 36:24Speaker 5: But for this team to do what they want to
- 36:26Speaker 5: do and to go run the table, like Pete and
- 36:29Speaker 5: I talked about and you talked about on that first segment,
- 36:31Speaker 5: they got to get the run game going. Offensive line
- 36:34Speaker 5: has to be more physical in the run game. They
- 36:36Speaker 5: were great protecting the pastor. I mean they did a
- 36:38Speaker 5: great job.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Really it was a it was a The pass protection
- 36:41Speaker 3: was really really.
- 36:42Speaker 5: Good, really good, and they did that. You know, obviously,
- 36:46Speaker 5: big injury to Cam. I don't think there's been any report.
- 36:49Speaker 3: Of they put it in six weeks.
- 36:51Speaker 2: Yeah, they put him on the list today. So they
- 36:54Speaker 2: just did that. They announce what it is. No, Cam
- 36:57Speaker 2: Robinson a reserve injury list and they've signed Chainler Brewer
- 37:00Speaker 2: from the practice squad of the active roster.
- 37:02Speaker 3: No, but they say there's there's there's a report. I
- 37:05Speaker 3: think NFL network can even rap report. Somebody reported three
- 37:08Speaker 3: to six weeks.
- 37:09Speaker 5: So to me watching it, that sounds like an m
- 37:11Speaker 5: CL to me and looking at it the way he
- 37:15Speaker 5: got hit. Yeah, that's my guess that's an m c L.
- 37:21Speaker 3: Hudos and forgetting Ezra Cleveland.
- 37:23Speaker 5: Yeah, I texted that last night somebody. I'm sure glad
- 37:27Speaker 5: we traded for Ezra. But we need, like we have
- 37:31Speaker 5: to get the run game going.
- 37:33Speaker 2: We got.
- 37:33Speaker 5: We have to be more physical upfront. We have to
- 37:35Speaker 5: finish blocks the backs. I thought missed a couple of holes.
- 37:39Speaker 5: They need to hit the holes.
- 37:41Speaker 2: And we need.
- 37:45Speaker 6: I want to ask you this, the run game has
- 37:47Speaker 6: a lot of movement in it as an offensive line.
- 37:51Speaker 3: Does that deter you know what I mean? It's not
- 37:56Speaker 3: you guys used to go and put it. Line them
- 37:59Speaker 3: up and go and move them back, knock him off
- 38:00Speaker 3: the ball. This this is different. It's a different style.
- 38:04Speaker 5: It's a different scheme. Pete in fairness, I mean it's
- 38:07Speaker 5: a different game. Let's not forget that. I mean everything
- 38:09Speaker 5: a lot of steps out of two point a lot
- 38:11Speaker 5: of horizontal stuff.
- 38:14Speaker 6: But like a guy blocks down, the guy pulls around,
- 38:16Speaker 6: the guy steps down, the guy pulls around, the tight
- 38:18Speaker 6: end comes down and whams.
- 38:20Speaker 4: It's it's a lot of uh.
- 38:23Speaker 2: Almost every game.
- 38:26Speaker 5: I think they have they feel like they have athletic
- 38:28Speaker 5: offensive linemen so that they pull, they get outside there
- 38:31Speaker 5: you know, gap schemes. I mean, they pull quite a
- 38:33Speaker 5: bit traps, but still I don't think we finished blocks enough.
- 38:41Speaker 5: Like no, like there's and to me, that's a mentality.
- 38:47Speaker 4: That you just also a rookie right tackle who hasn't
- 38:49Speaker 4: figured it out yet.
- 38:51Speaker 5: But Pete he played the best of the group.
- 38:53Speaker 6: I thought he was good, but his run blocking wasn't great.
- 38:57Speaker 3: He doesn't he's you're you're accurate. He doesn't finish them
- 39:00Speaker 3: all the way.
- 39:02Speaker 6: And I think the two the two guys that finished
- 39:05Speaker 6: the least are the two youngest guys.
- 39:08Speaker 3: They don't.
- 39:08Speaker 4: They don't.
- 39:09Speaker 6: There's a big you know this, there's a big difference
- 39:11Speaker 6: in finishing in the end in college and finishing in
- 39:13Speaker 6: the NFL. Yeah, And I think they're kind of feeling
- 39:16Speaker 6: their way through that. One's the other thing too, they
- 39:19Speaker 6: go back to what you said a.
- 39:20Speaker 3: Couple of weeks ago.
- 39:22Speaker 6: Hit him go where they're going to be, not where
- 39:25Speaker 6: they are. You said that a couple of weeks ago,
- 39:27Speaker 6: And that shows up on.
- 39:28Speaker 3: Tape over and over and over again.
- 39:31Speaker 5: And it just feels at times it's too much, maybe
- 39:34Speaker 5: a little more position blocking, and the biggest thing that
- 39:38Speaker 5: and it jumped out a couple of times. When you
- 39:42Speaker 5: get up to linebackers, you're gonna have to you have
- 39:46Speaker 5: to have bad intentions, like you like you're bigger, you're stronger,
- 39:50Speaker 5: and if you get your hands on that guy, like
- 39:53Speaker 5: you have to dog him, like you have to try
- 39:56Speaker 5: to physically like man handle him. And just like one time,
- 40:02Speaker 5: and I'm just picking and I'm not trying to pick
- 40:04Speaker 5: on Fortner. I mean he he does some really good things.
- 40:07Speaker 5: He's athletic, he gets moving, he can get out there,
- 40:11Speaker 5: but he needs to get up to the there's like
- 40:13Speaker 5: one place tone he gets up to the linebacker level.
- 40:17Speaker 5: And they're not huge linebackers at Houston, and he's kind
- 40:20Speaker 5: of position blocking in the guy. Like just get on
- 40:23Speaker 5: that guy and overwhelm him and let them and let
- 40:27Speaker 5: the back cut off of you, right, don't predetermine where
- 40:32Speaker 5: the back's gonna go. So I all fixable stuff.
- 40:37Speaker 2: And they're very well coached.
- 40:39Speaker 6: All scheme and technique and little things and and and
- 40:42Speaker 6: holding your blocks.
- 40:43Speaker 3: I agree with you, it's all fixible.
- 40:44Speaker 6: Like I'll give you example, Tony, the one run where
- 40:46Speaker 6: they popped it a little bit. Cleveland did a great
- 40:49Speaker 6: job of getting to the second level and getting on
- 40:51Speaker 6: the linebacker that one play.
- 40:53Speaker 2: Remember, yes, I do.
- 40:55Speaker 3: It was like a double.
- 40:56Speaker 6: He had a double with uh with little I think,
- 40:58Speaker 6: and he came off of it and he got to
- 40:59Speaker 6: the linebacker. He didn't blast him or anything, but he
- 41:02Speaker 6: got him and allowed him to.
- 41:03Speaker 5: Just get your hands on these guys and be physical
- 41:07Speaker 5: with them. You're bigger than they are.
- 41:10Speaker 6: Like in the center, the center has to be much
- 41:12Speaker 6: more physical than and he goes back to what you
- 41:14Speaker 6: say all the time about playing high.
- 41:16Speaker 3: He plays too high, and he's a big center. But
- 41:20Speaker 3: he plays high.
- 41:21Speaker 2: Yep.
- 41:23Speaker 6: But the rookie right tackle, by the way, JP and
- 41:25Speaker 6: Tony's right, you know that's that's a high draft pick
- 41:29Speaker 6: he was working against in pass protection, he killed them.
- 41:32Speaker 5: He dominated, dominated, and Will Anderson Junior came in with
- 41:35Speaker 5: thirty eight pressures, which is the most for any rookie
- 41:38Speaker 5: and like third or fourth most since some date.
- 41:41Speaker 2: You know, whatever, you know, we make we make up.
- 41:46Speaker 5: More stats from like the fifth game of twenty seventeen.
- 41:50Speaker 2: He has Bartley cloudy and then a retractable roofs stadium
- 41:54Speaker 2: on a Sunday at one.
- 41:55Speaker 5: But the bottom line, he had thirty eight pressures coming
- 41:57Speaker 5: in and if you watch the tape. I mean he,
- 42:00Speaker 5: I mean he was all over the place against the Cardinals.
- 42:02Speaker 5: Him and green grenard the right end, and I thought
- 42:07Speaker 5: going in both those guys could be a little bit
- 42:09Speaker 5: of an issue. I wasn't worried about the Terier because
- 42:11Speaker 5: they're not very good pass rushers, and Harrison dominated Willy Anderson,
- 42:18Speaker 5: I mean stoned him, was physical in the past game.
- 42:21Speaker 3: I'm like, that's place in the really good place in
- 42:24Speaker 3: the rush.
- 42:24Speaker 2: Yeah he did.
- 42:24Speaker 5: I'm like, that's how you block right there, that's how
- 42:27Speaker 5: you pass protect.
- 42:27Speaker 2: I thought.
- 42:28Speaker 5: I thought Anton Harrison maybe his best game in matching
- 42:32Speaker 5: up against another rookie high pick who's having a good year,
- 42:35Speaker 5: and he won the day.
- 42:37Speaker 2: If it would have been.
- 42:37Speaker 5: If it would have been a heavyweight fight, it would
- 42:39Speaker 5: have been a unanimous decision who won that battle.
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- 43:11Speaker 7: He did a great job. Protection was awesome. I don't
- 43:13Speaker 7: I don't think I got sacked, right, no sacks today,
- 43:15Speaker 7: So those guys are playing their tails off. Obviously, we
- 43:18Speaker 7: had Ezra jump in there and had to play the
- 43:20Speaker 7: rest of the game, and he.
- 43:20Speaker 2: Did a great job.
- 43:21Speaker 7: You know, he's gonna help us, and it's cool to
- 43:23Speaker 7: see him be able to get up to speed that fast.
- 43:25Speaker 2: And he just got here.
- 43:26Speaker 7: So they did a heck of a job obviously stepping
- 43:30Speaker 7: in for Cam. You know, hopefully hopefully he's all all
- 43:32Speaker 7: as well with can you know, definitely praying for him
- 43:34Speaker 7: and hopeful it's nothing major. But that guy brings a
- 43:37Speaker 7: lot of energy and worked hard to get back from
- 43:40Speaker 7: injuries in the past, so you kind of hate it
- 43:41Speaker 7: for him.
- 43:42Speaker 3: So I hope hopefully it's nothing major.
- 43:43Speaker 7: But you know, it's cool to see those guys step
- 43:46Speaker 7: up and be able to shuffle around and still play well.
- 43:48Speaker 7: And Protection was awesome, ran the ball great when we
- 43:50Speaker 7: needed too.
- 43:51Speaker 2: It was great as quarterback of course. Trevor Lawrence after
- 43:55Speaker 2: the game yesterday and Houston at Jaguars Win twenty four
- 43:58Speaker 2: to twenty one. Jaguar is now eight and three. Welcome
- 44:01Speaker 2: Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Hoolme Loans on
- 44:04Speaker 2: ten ten Xcel, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube, JP, Shadwick,
- 44:08Speaker 2: Tony Busselli and Jacksonville and the Hundai studios at the
- 44:11Speaker 2: Miller Electric Center. Pete Prisco is in South Florida where
- 44:15Speaker 2: he always is.
- 44:16Speaker 5: Always Hey, I want to quick Trevor would was when
- 44:21Speaker 5: Trevor was talking about Cam maybe think of something and Pete,
- 44:26Speaker 5: is it if you go on IR and JP, maybe
- 44:28Speaker 5: you know this isn't it?
- 44:29Speaker 2: You're on there at least four weeks? Yeah, So they
- 44:34Speaker 2: don't think it's If they thought it was a three.
- 44:38Speaker 5: Week or less, they would not have put him on there.
- 44:41Speaker 5: So I think it's sound. I mean, just the fact
- 44:43Speaker 5: that they put him on IR, so it's a minimum
- 44:46Speaker 5: of four weeks.
- 44:47Speaker 2: It sounds like he could be back for the Carolina game.
- 44:49Speaker 5: So it sounds like they think he's It's probably more
- 44:51Speaker 5: of the six week variety than the three week variety probably, Yeah,
- 44:55Speaker 5: just based on them making the move die.
- 44:57Speaker 3: So you want it for, you want it for the postseason.
- 44:59Speaker 5: Absolutely want him back.
- 45:00Speaker 2: Yeah, would be eligible to come back the Carolina game
- 45:04Speaker 2: and the Tennessee game, but then the playoffs. Playoffs. Okay,
- 45:06Speaker 2: I thought it was working back in practice and yeah,
- 45:09Speaker 2: that's right, we might get that.
- 45:10Speaker 3: You might get that bye week too.
- 45:12Speaker 2: Be resting, guys, How good would that be?
- 45:17Speaker 5: You know at some point, Pete and maybe do it now, JP,
- 45:20Speaker 5: or maybe it's you're keeping it real.
- 45:21Speaker 2: The last two minutes. Well, it depends what you're going
- 45:23Speaker 2: to say.
- 45:25Speaker 5: How bad is the officiating?
- 45:27Speaker 2: I don't know if we need to go down this
- 45:28Speaker 2: path total it was. I don't know if we need
- 45:30Speaker 2: to go down this And by the way, i'm both sides,
- 45:32Speaker 2: I mean for both team.
- 45:35Speaker 3: Tell's catch was a catch.
- 45:37Speaker 5: I thought it was. I argued that on the air
- 45:39Speaker 5: and I got over rowe.
- 45:40Speaker 3: There were a lot of bad calls in the game.
- 45:42Speaker 6: But you know what some of those pass interference penalties
- 45:44Speaker 6: were pass interference penalties?
- 45:46Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, watching them again today, they were.
- 45:47Speaker 5: I only thought the one the last one, and really
- 45:49Speaker 5: they called holding. I'm still trying to find the guy
- 45:52Speaker 5: where he touched them.
- 45:53Speaker 3: Yeah, that one I didn't get. The one in the
- 45:55Speaker 3: back of the end zone was a hole.
- 45:56Speaker 5: Oh gosh, yes, I mean those yeah, those were holds
- 45:59Speaker 5: on and and listen that call they missed on Evan,
- 46:06Speaker 5: I mean that was That's the only reason that was
- 46:08Speaker 5: it pick that's a completion.
- 46:09Speaker 3: Well, because that would have been a big play if
- 46:11Speaker 3: you go.
- 46:12Speaker 2: Yes, he was, he was.
- 46:13Speaker 5: There was no one in front of him.
- 46:15Speaker 3: And nor had you seen that play from Jackson Obloe
- 46:18Speaker 3: you know what that was.
- 46:19Speaker 6: He stalk blocked the guy right and then route and
- 46:21Speaker 6: there was nobody in the middle of the field. He
- 46:23Speaker 6: would have gone for about thirty five yards bare minimum
- 46:25Speaker 6: on that play.
- 46:26Speaker 5: And how they missed that he I mean, he just
- 46:28Speaker 5: grabs him hooks them.
- 46:30Speaker 6: JP on the other side, you know what we're gonna do.
- 46:32Speaker 6: You keep talking about negative and negative and negative. Well,
- 46:35Speaker 6: I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna give you something
- 46:37Speaker 6: that really I thought was a terrible, terrible, terrible decision.
- 46:43Speaker 2: And my guess is I'm gonna disagree with you. I
- 46:46Speaker 2: wonder what in the world this could possibly be.
- 46:49Speaker 6: Well, there's a couple of them, but I give you
- 46:51Speaker 6: that one.
- 46:53Speaker 2: Well find out in a moment. The second hour of
- 46:55Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour coming up. Your fan questions submitted on
- 46:59Speaker 2: x's Well, we'll keep it real and it's Jaguars Happy
- 47:03Speaker 2: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.
- 47:10Speaker 9: I trust our players and I think the players trusted
- 47:12Speaker 9: me to make make these decisions and put them in,
- 47:14Speaker 9: put them in you know, successful situations. Now, listen, we
- 47:18Speaker 9: had the ball to start the third quarter. Had we not,
- 47:21Speaker 9: I'm taking three points there. So let's not let's not
- 47:25Speaker 9: mistake ourselves and.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Saying, oh, he went out on a.
- 47:27Speaker 10: Limb and you know he's he's you know, being overly
- 47:32Speaker 10: aggressive whatever. I mean, there was a there was a
- 47:34Speaker 10: logical reason for making that decision, and the decision was
- 47:37Speaker 10: we were getting football. I wanted to go up twenty
- 47:40Speaker 10: twenty to seven, with a chance to go up even
- 47:43Speaker 10: more at the beginning of.
- 47:44Speaker 9: The third quarter.
- 47:44Speaker 2: So that's the head coach Doug Peterson today on a
- 47:49Speaker 2: media zoom call and welcome back. It's the second hour
- 47:52Speaker 2: of Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Mister Chubby's Wings, JP Shadwick,
- 47:56Speaker 2: Tony Biselli, and Pete Prisco. After a Jaguars win over
- 48:01Speaker 2: the Texans twenty four to twenty one, Trevor Lawrence with
- 48:04Speaker 2: his second best passing yardage game in his career, Calvin
- 48:07Speaker 2: Ridley great in the third quarter, all his catches and
- 48:10Speaker 2: yards and the touchdown and the two point play all
- 48:14Speaker 2: in the third. The Jags defense had big time sacks
- 48:17Speaker 2: when it mattered, certainly on the final key drive, and
- 48:20Speaker 2: the Jags are now two games clear of the Colts
- 48:22Speaker 2: and Texans for first place in the South, and the
- 48:25Speaker 2: Jags are currently the number three seed and the AFC
- 48:28Speaker 2: playoff race. Up next a three game stretch against the
- 48:31Speaker 2: AFC North, starting in week thirteen with Monday Night football
- 48:35Speaker 2: against the Bengals, the jags first Monday Night appearance since
- 48:38Speaker 2: twenty eleven. You heard Doug Peterson there about the play
- 48:42Speaker 2: call and the decision more than the play call right
- 48:46Speaker 2: before halftime at the one yard line, one second to go,
- 48:50Speaker 2: one play and they didn't get it. So that's that
- 48:53Speaker 2: was asked today of the head coach. Go ahead piece.
- 48:56Speaker 3: Oh wait, it was a terrible decision.
- 48:58Speaker 2: I disfigure.
- 48:59Speaker 3: I'm just gonna put it out there. It was a terrible,
- 49:01Speaker 3: terrible decision.
- 49:02Speaker 6: You were given a gift of getting those points you have,
- 49:06Speaker 6: Basically they were given to you on a blown play
- 49:09Speaker 6: in the secondary. When you get to that situation, go
- 49:13Speaker 6: up nine, go to the locker room with momentum.
- 49:17Speaker 3: Okay, you don't get it. The momentums flipped.
- 49:20Speaker 4: They went.
- 49:20Speaker 6: Then they go three and out on the first series
- 49:23Speaker 6: of the second half because the momentums flipped, they had
- 49:26Speaker 6: a drop pass by Etn. It made no sense whatsoever,
- 49:30Speaker 6: go up nine and you have all the momentum going
- 49:34Speaker 6: into the locker room, when with the way they played it,
- 49:37Speaker 6: the momentum flipped, they went right back to the Texans,
- 49:40Speaker 6: and so for that reason, I thought it was a
- 49:42Speaker 6: terrible decision.
- 49:43Speaker 3: And you can, you know, the call, the flip whatever,
- 49:46Speaker 3: That's not what I had a problem with. I have
- 49:49Speaker 3: a problem with the decision not to kick the field
- 49:51Speaker 3: goal and go up by nine.
- 49:54Speaker 6: If it was okay, if it was ten to seven,
- 49:56Speaker 6: I could understand it maybe, But you go up two
- 49:59Speaker 6: scores in a game, and a division game on the road.
- 50:01Speaker 4: You have to do that.
- 50:03Speaker 5: Yeah, just for the record, twofold, I disagree with you,
- 50:08Speaker 5: but I'll set that aside. They did not go three
- 50:11Speaker 5: and out in the third quarter, Pete, you talk about
- 50:14Speaker 5: all the momentum. They had a big third down conversion
- 50:17Speaker 5: out to Calvin Ridley, and that was the series that
- 50:22Speaker 5: ended with the missed hold on Ingram that led to
- 50:25Speaker 5: the inter they were actually driving in Houston territory, and.
- 50:32Speaker 3: So still they gave the momentum back to them.
- 50:35Speaker 5: Your momentum argument, Man, throw that out. But I will
- 50:40Speaker 5: go back to I was. I'm not going to change
- 50:43Speaker 5: what I said during the game.
- 50:44Speaker 2: I liked it.
- 50:46Speaker 5: You have a chance on the road to go up
- 50:49Speaker 5: twenty to seven and just have a pretty much end
- 50:54Speaker 5: to the half the way that you kind of controlled
- 50:56Speaker 5: that first half.
- 50:58Speaker 2: And go into the locker room.
- 50:59Speaker 5: I didn't love the pitch, especially if Travis is in
- 51:05Speaker 5: one hundred percent, you're on the half yard line. You
- 51:08Speaker 5: have a six to six quarterback with length who just
- 51:11Speaker 5: quarterback sneaked over the top. He did it last year,
- 51:14Speaker 5: same similar situation further back against the Chargers.
- 51:17Speaker 2: Did it earlier in the game. I know he did.
- 51:19Speaker 5: That's what I said earlier in the game and also
- 51:21Speaker 5: last year.
- 51:22Speaker 2: But I would have all stacked in there.
- 51:24Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. They're all stacked in the last time.
- 51:27Speaker 3: He's got to be careful with the way he puts
- 51:28Speaker 3: that over though.
- 51:29Speaker 5: Sometimes Yeah, but it's it's the last play of the half,
- 51:32Speaker 5: so if you fumble, it doesn't matter.
- 51:33Speaker 3: Right, No, No, I'm saying that one, but he did
- 51:35Speaker 3: it early one.
- 51:35Speaker 4: Agree.
- 51:36Speaker 5: I agree, but I would have just that's what i'd
- 51:38Speaker 5: have done. That's your highest percentage, the highest percentage play
- 51:42Speaker 5: right there, like you pitch it outside.
- 51:45Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably would. If I was going for it,
- 51:47Speaker 3: I probably would have snuck it too.
- 51:50Speaker 2: So I had no problem with it, though I would.
- 51:53Speaker 2: I would have.
- 51:54Speaker 6: I'd go up nine, Okay, So that that I didn't
- 51:57Speaker 6: agree with. Then the one late the game when they
- 52:01Speaker 6: got away with it because they had the they would
- 52:03Speaker 6: I mean they going for that was to me made
- 52:08Speaker 6: no sense.
- 52:08Speaker 4: You go up ten.
- 52:09Speaker 5: I agree with you there because I'm gonna say consistent
- 52:12Speaker 5: what I said during the broadcast. I would have kicked
- 52:14Speaker 5: the field goal there. I would have kicked the field
- 52:17Speaker 5: goal goal because it's fourth quarter and you go up
- 52:19Speaker 5: ten in the fourth, you go up two possessions in
- 52:21Speaker 5: the fourth. Pete, I'm one hundred percent with you there.
- 52:24Speaker 5: I would have kicked the field goal. I disagree with it.
- 52:26Speaker 3: They had they had the penalty, right, and then they.
- 52:29Speaker 5: Have actually they converted it, but they but they had
- 52:31Speaker 5: the punt.
- 52:32Speaker 2: I think they know they didn't. They kicked the field goal.
- 52:34Speaker 3: That's right. The field goal.
- 52:35Speaker 2: That's right.
- 52:36Speaker 5: I think they only I think they only had ten
- 52:38Speaker 5: people on the play. Can we pull that play up?
- 52:40Speaker 5: Which the fourth down conversion? They went for it, and
- 52:44Speaker 5: they ended up getting a penalty because of an legal
- 52:47Speaker 5: formation because they had no covering covering up the left tackle.
- 52:51Speaker 5: I'm pretty I counted I only saw ten guys on
- 52:54Speaker 5: the field on the film today, I don't know if
- 52:56Speaker 5: we can pull that.
- 52:57Speaker 3: Does that flag drop late, Tony?
- 52:59Speaker 5: Yes, it was after the Texans bench was in that
- 53:03Speaker 5: officials ear, Yeah.
- 53:04Speaker 6: Because because when they converted, you couldn't tell from the
- 53:07Speaker 6: TV that there was even a penalty until there was late.
- 53:12Speaker 5: Yeah, So I couldn't. They either only had ten or
- 53:15Speaker 5: the receiver was really wide and just wasn't on the
- 53:18Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. But what I could see in the
- 53:20Speaker 5: frame was only ten.
- 53:22Speaker 6: I look and see now. But again, I would have
- 53:25Speaker 6: kicked there automatically. What's your end game there? I don't
- 53:29Speaker 6: get it. You're you still got to go down the
- 53:31Speaker 6: field to try and get more points.
- 53:33Speaker 3: You got to get your poots there the way that
- 53:35Speaker 3: kid's been kicking you.
- 53:36Speaker 5: And I agreed. Here's the other question, the other call.
- 53:41Speaker 5: But I did not fault. I was on the fence
- 53:43Speaker 5: during the broadcast, and I don't fault and I don't
- 53:46Speaker 5: disagree with Doug kicking the field goal. The last field
- 53:50Speaker 5: goal that mcmahus missed was a fifty five yarder, one
- 53:52Speaker 5: yard longer than the one he met that he made
- 53:57Speaker 5: up to You were up ten at that point, m
- 54:00Speaker 5: hm pete. Would you have and it was like six
- 54:03Speaker 5: minutes left in the game, would you a pundit them
- 54:06Speaker 5: and pin them deep?
- 54:08Speaker 3: I would have. I thought about it when I was
- 54:09Speaker 3: watching the game. I would have pinned him in.
- 54:11Speaker 5: I said it on the air of that I would
- 54:13Speaker 5: consider it, but.
- 54:15Speaker 4: Boy, it's hard.
- 54:17Speaker 6: The guys with watching the games with me also said
- 54:19Speaker 6: I was soft for saying that, But I think.
- 54:21Speaker 5: You make the rookie go the length of the field
- 54:23Speaker 5: and eat up clock because you have a two possession
- 54:25Speaker 5: lead at that point. But at the same time, I
- 54:28Speaker 5: found myself and I said, I was I don't know
- 54:30Speaker 5: what I had done if it would have been if
- 54:32Speaker 5: I was the head coach, and I had to make
- 54:34Speaker 5: a call, because how do you bet against Brandon mcmanuson
- 54:36Speaker 5: and how good he's been this year. He's automatic from
- 54:39Speaker 5: fifty five usually and he had plenty of leg and
- 54:42Speaker 5: you just pushed it a little bit. So that was
- 54:45Speaker 5: an interesting call to me strategy wise. I don't fault
- 54:48Speaker 5: Doug for going for it because I heck, but I
- 54:51Speaker 5: agree with him going for it at the end of
- 54:53Speaker 5: the half. I would have kicked the field goal, which
- 54:55Speaker 5: ended up doing anyways, because of the penalty to take
- 54:57Speaker 5: a two possession lead in the fourth.
- 54:59Speaker 6: Quarter, Tony, you can't tell from the any view of
- 55:05Speaker 6: the twenty two if there was an eleventh guy there
- 55:09Speaker 6: on that.
- 55:09Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't. That's why I said, I couldn't tell.
- 55:11Speaker 5: But there's no one from any angle.
- 55:13Speaker 3: Could you tell?
- 55:14Speaker 6: Because Ridley Ridley is on the field in the slot,
- 55:17Speaker 6: But then you can't tell if anybody else is outside
- 55:20Speaker 6: of them?
- 55:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I care outside of.
- 55:22Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't tell.
- 55:25Speaker 4: I don't think there is, though I didn't either.
- 55:30Speaker 2: Well, they got called, that's for sure. Anything else on
- 55:33Speaker 2: your list, Pete out of this one.
- 55:37Speaker 6: I wasn't a big fan of the third down throw
- 55:40Speaker 6: down the sideline.
- 55:41Speaker 3: Wasn't that third down?
- 55:42Speaker 2: Yeah? Third in sixth I think it was. Yeah.
- 55:45Speaker 6: I wasn't a big fan of that one either. I
- 55:47Speaker 6: think I would have tried to get the first down
- 55:49Speaker 6: there and keep going.
- 55:51Speaker 2: Yeah, there was.
- 55:52Speaker 4: I mean, did you like that call?
- 55:54Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't.
- 55:57Speaker 3: That's a that's a it's a low percent his pass
- 56:00Speaker 3: in terms of completion, and the kid made a great
- 56:02Speaker 3: catch on he just couldn't get his feet there.
- 56:04Speaker 2: No. Yeah, I mean.
- 56:08Speaker 5: I was watching the play. You know it didn't work.
- 56:11Speaker 5: You were was like, ah, I wish we had just
- 56:13Speaker 5: taken a short crosser.
- 56:15Speaker 2: But I don't, Pete. If you go back and look
- 56:17Speaker 2: at that, I don't think anyone else is open.
- 56:19Speaker 4: No, Now he was, and I think he was going.
- 56:22Speaker 5: I think he was going there single high man, de man.
- 56:24Speaker 5: He was going to take the thought, well that's where
- 56:26Speaker 5: he was going, which I'm okay with that.
- 56:31Speaker 6: I didn't love that call either, but but but look,
- 56:33Speaker 6: I'm being nitpicky. I just didn't like the end of
- 56:35Speaker 6: the half call. I just I just think you got it.
- 56:38Speaker 6: You're on the road in the division game. You got
- 56:40Speaker 6: to get your points.
- 56:43Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 56:46Speaker 5: I disagree with you, Pete, but I hear you're saying
- 56:48Speaker 5: you're not alone. A lot of people said the same thing.
- 56:50Speaker 5: But I was with Doug on that call. I was
- 56:52Speaker 5: during the game. I said I would have gone for it.
- 56:53Speaker 5: I would have called a sneak and not the pitch,
- 56:56Speaker 5: but I was fine with the strategy of going for it.
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- 57:28Speaker 2: Wi Welcome Back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour, JP Shadwick, Tony Musseli,
- 57:44Speaker 2: Pete Prisco. After a Jaguars win, They've won seven of eight.
- 57:51Speaker 2: Jags are in first place eight and three, two games
- 57:54Speaker 2: clear of the Colts and the Texans. And I was
- 57:58Speaker 2: three straight against the AFC north Well, it's time for
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- 58:05Speaker 2: up a winner today really agreed to give its award
- 58:07Speaker 2: winning line by Robert Mundavi. It's pretty much a softball.
- 58:12Speaker 2: Todays Little soft Toss is the CJ. Stroud, Trevor Lawrence rivalry.
- 58:20Speaker 2: The next great quarterback rivalry in the league. And why
- 58:24Speaker 2: let's get Tony's Micah or not leave it off that
- 58:27Speaker 2: actually might be done.
- 58:28Speaker 5: Okay, there we go, passing testing just fine without him.
- 58:34Speaker 5: I would say yes, but I think it's one of
- 58:38Speaker 5: many because I think Mahomes, Allen, I think Burrow, Mahomes, Burrow,
- 58:44Speaker 5: Allen Burrow.
- 58:46Speaker 2: I think they Burro can say on the field.
- 58:49Speaker 5: Yeah, I think Trevor and CJ are going to be
- 58:53Speaker 5: in those upper echelon of quarterbacks, so it's going to
- 58:56Speaker 5: be a rivalry anytime those top quarterbacks face each other.
- 59:00Speaker 5: But I think Trevor and CJ could be significant because
- 59:04Speaker 5: they're gonna be in the same division, like Mahomes and
- 59:06Speaker 5: Burrow are in the same division, Allen, and they're all so.
- 59:10Speaker 2: Just playoffs basically playoffs.
- 59:12Speaker 5: And usually you're winning the division, so you're gonna end
- 59:14Speaker 5: up playing each other once a year, but this is
- 59:17Speaker 5: a matchup you're gonna have twice a year home and away.
- 59:20Speaker 3: Here here's why it won't be.
- 59:22Speaker 2: Because market size.
- 59:24Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's why it won't be.
- 59:27Speaker 2: I mean.
- 59:30Speaker 6: Said that Indianapolis when Peyton Manning was that good, If
- 59:33Speaker 6: you're that good.
- 59:34Speaker 2: That's where I was gonna go what if? What if?
- 59:38Speaker 2: What if?
- 59:38Speaker 5: The what if the Jaguars are the next ten years
- 59:44Speaker 5: in four AFC championships and two Super Bowls and win
- 59:49Speaker 5: two or win one or two, and the Texans are
- 59:52Speaker 5: in you know, three or four AFC championships.
- 59:57Speaker 2: And go to a super Bowl.
- 1:00:00Speaker 6: Well, now you're talking, Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like,
- 1:00:02Speaker 6: the only way is actually it could be.
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: It could be.
- 1:00:05Speaker 5: I think there's there's qualifiers there because of the market size.
- 1:00:11Speaker 4: Now listen and I'll say this, Tony.
- 1:00:14Speaker 6: We thought maybe mahomes Herbert would be that you have
- 1:00:18Speaker 6: a big market, you have a stark quarterback and hadn't
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: got to that.
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: Well, because the charges are no good.
- 1:00:25Speaker 4: You gotta be relevant, You gotta be relevant.
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: You know.
- 1:00:28Speaker 5: It's interesting.
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: What's that, Tony.
- 1:00:30Speaker 5: Here's an interesting tale that I'm sure the NFL higher
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: ups would like to change if they could. The best
- 1:00:38Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the in the AFC. Let's just say the
- 1:00:42Speaker 5: AFC are all in small or mid size markets.
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: Correct.
- 1:00:48Speaker 5: Josh Allen Buffalo small market now historical team and what
- 1:00:53Speaker 5: they did in the late eighties early nineties with you know,
- 1:00:56Speaker 5: Jim Kelly and that crew and the Hall of Famers.
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: Thirty years ago.
- 1:01:00Speaker 5: I mean that's but that's why they're you know, the cache,
- 1:01:03Speaker 5: but small market. Kansas City small.
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: Market history history though legacy history.
- 1:01:10Speaker 5: Legacy, but still small market. Cincinnati mid, Scide market, mid small,
- 1:01:20Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence, small market market. Houston's a big market but
- 1:01:25Speaker 5: gets no respect.
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: Right, what about the Ravens.
- 1:01:29Speaker 5: Ravens, Uh, that's a big market. So Lamar, that's a
- 1:01:32Speaker 5: good call. And then Herbert, But the Chargers are so bad. Actually,
- 1:01:36Speaker 5: I actually view the Chargers of the small market team
- 1:01:38Speaker 5: because no one follows them in l A. I mean,
- 1:01:41Speaker 5: they're in a big market.
- 1:01:42Speaker 2: Doesn't do it.
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: The NFL doesn't view it.
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: They don't be but eyeballs interest does it.
- 1:01:48Speaker 6: Like, you're right, your point is well made though that
- 1:01:51Speaker 6: the small market, the small markets have the quarterbacks.
- 1:01:55Speaker 11: Yeah, and that's and okay, in from much of our lifetime,
- 1:02:01Speaker 11: the Chiefs weren't truly relevant.
- 1:02:05Speaker 6: I mean not my lifetime, but I mean your lifetime.
- 1:02:10Speaker 6: And Patrick Mahomes put him on the map.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: That's right about there.
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: Now they're everywhere.
- 1:02:14Speaker 5: Like my point is, if the NFL higher ups could
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: script this, they would have one of those guys in
- 1:02:21Speaker 5: the Jets one at the Steelers.
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: They got one in Baltimore, Lamar, no doubt about that.
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: What about you forgot Tua.
- 1:02:36Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard to argue to her right now because
- 1:02:39Speaker 5: he's playing at a high.
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: Level right And that's a big market.
- 1:02:43Speaker 5: It is a big market, but it doesn't have a
- 1:02:45Speaker 5: big fan base.
- 1:02:47Speaker 2: What are talking about it? We're talking about market, So no,
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: I know that, But I'm just saying, like I think
- 1:02:51Speaker 2: that if you look at what the NFL they want eyeballs,
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: what are the teams.
- 1:02:57Speaker 6: In Miami has a lot of fans that I don't
- 1:02:59Speaker 6: know how passionate the ones down here are because there's
- 1:03:02Speaker 6: a lot of transplants and stuff. But yeah, that's been
- 1:03:04Speaker 6: around for a long time, in one games for a
- 1:03:07Speaker 6: long time.
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: Fair enough, Pete, Miami's another one they got to.
- 1:03:10Speaker 6: But here's the one that I always say that Jacksonville
- 1:03:13Speaker 6: can become Seattle. Russell Wilson, Seattle, the relevant, the craziness,
- 1:03:19Speaker 6: they're on TV all the time, personalities small. You know,
- 1:03:24Speaker 6: it's a bigger city obviously, but not a lot of
- 1:03:27Speaker 6: attention given the Seahawks over the years until they got
- 1:03:30Speaker 6: to that point. That's what Jacksonville can become if they're
- 1:03:34Speaker 6: good with Trevor Lawrence.
- 1:03:35Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with that, Pete. That's a good that's
- 1:03:36Speaker 5: a good comparison. And the way that people are moving
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: to Florida and Jacksonville, Jacksonville might be a bigger market
- 1:03:42Speaker 5: than some of these places here soon enough.
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:03:45Speaker 5: Yeah, that's not far fetch, No, it's not. But it's
- 1:03:50Speaker 5: just interesting you look at like, if you were to
- 1:03:52Speaker 5: talk about top quarterbacks, it's amazing how many of them
- 1:03:56Speaker 5: have ended up in these kind of mid small markets, you.
- 1:04:00Speaker 6: Know, you know, it's even more amazing about that Tony
- 1:04:03Speaker 6: is the top star. Young star quarterbacks are in the AFC.
- 1:04:08Speaker 6: But if you looked at it right now, the best
- 1:04:10Speaker 6: teams are probably in the NFC.
- 1:04:14Speaker 5: Well, but the NFC one MC. The NFC has more
- 1:04:17Speaker 5: big markets in the AFC.
- 1:04:19Speaker 6: No, but but I'm saying the best teams right now
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: are the forty nine ers and the Eagles and and
- 1:04:24Speaker 6: and those two have you know, Look, Jalen Hurts is
- 1:04:28Speaker 6: playing great football though.
- 1:04:29Speaker 5: He's a star, right, I mean, if you look in
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: the NFC big market.
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: It's pretty a star. I mean, he's getting there.
- 1:04:37Speaker 5: Like I think it's hard for me to say, I
- 1:04:39Speaker 5: think perty is a really good quarterback. I don't know
- 1:04:40Speaker 5: if I'm ready to say he's a top franchise quarterback,
- 1:04:44Speaker 5: but the number is he put now they're winning because
- 1:04:47Speaker 5: of And I'm biased because I think the way that
- 1:04:51Speaker 5: Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch have built a team and
- 1:04:55Speaker 5: like the philosophy, how they play, and I think Kyle's probably.
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: One of the more you know, yeah, he's a.
- 1:05:03Speaker 4: He has a very he's a great coach, he's a
- 1:05:05Speaker 4: very and he has a.
- 1:05:06Speaker 5: Very quarterback friendly system.
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: Pete, would you say that that way? Yeah?
- 1:05:10Speaker 6: Right, But by the way, we're just glossing over one
- 1:05:12Speaker 6: of the teams that when we talk about the NFC
- 1:05:15Speaker 6: quarterback is playing at a high level, the Cowboys.
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: Scott's playing phenomenal.
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: Oh he's you know.
- 1:05:19Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:05:20Speaker 5: That's why I said AFC specifically, because if you go
- 1:05:22Speaker 5: to the NFC, the big markets do have really good quarterbacks.
- 1:05:25Speaker 5: San Francisco is party, Dak Prescott in Dallas Hurts and
- 1:05:31Speaker 5: Phil Hurts in Philly. I mean, I mean, come on,
- 1:05:33Speaker 5: I mean they got big time players and uh at
- 1:05:36Speaker 5: those positions in the big markets, Like I mean, look
- 1:05:41Speaker 5: at the New York.
- 1:05:41Speaker 3: Teams right now. Well, Rogers would be there.
- 1:05:47Speaker 6: So he's not a big quarterback, but he's not right
- 1:05:49Speaker 6: now there, Tommy DeVito, you don't like he beat the
- 1:05:53Speaker 6: beat mac Jones yesterday and the mac Jones got benched.
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that could be a whole segment, a whole
- 1:06:00Speaker 5: show talking about what is good New England gonna do
- 1:06:05Speaker 5: moving forward.
- 1:06:06Speaker 6: By the way, fifty NFL starting quarterbacks through through twelve
- 1:06:10Speaker 6: weeks just five zero.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: That's amazing. That's a big number. That's keeping a real
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- 1:06:49Speaker 12: You know, we knew coming down here that this is uh,
- 1:06:53Speaker 12: this crowd was going to be energized, you know, for
- 1:06:55Speaker 12: the way they've been playing, and rightfully so, and the
- 1:06:58Speaker 12: way their quarterback's been playing and again rightfully so. And
- 1:07:01Speaker 12: and we knew that coming here, and I felt like
- 1:07:04Speaker 12: our guys really handled for the most part, handled the
- 1:07:06Speaker 12: noise really well.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: The communication was good.
- 1:07:10Speaker 12: And it's a tough place to play when this when
- 1:07:12Speaker 12: his fan base is jazzed up like they were today,
- 1:07:15Speaker 12: it's hard. It's hard to hear it. It's loud on
- 1:07:17Speaker 12: the field. But great, great road win for us to
- 1:07:22Speaker 12: come here and then do what we did today, I.
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: Said coach Doug Peterson after the game. Yesterday at twenty
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: four to twenty one went over the Houston Texans and
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- 1:08:10Speaker 2: here's the best we've come up with today at folly,
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: no underscore Joy. Are we the best team in the AFC?
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: After watching the Ravens last night? How would we fare
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: against them? Well, we'll find out in a couple of
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: weeks for sure, head to head. But what do you
- 1:08:25Speaker 2: think It's hard for me to.
- 1:08:29Speaker 5: Say we're the best team because a team with similar
- 1:08:31Speaker 5: records in ours beat us at home in the Kansas
- 1:08:36Speaker 5: City Chiefs. That was a long time ago, so a
- 1:08:38Speaker 5: lot's changed since then. I would argue that we're as
- 1:08:42Speaker 5: good as any other team that's eight and three right
- 1:08:45Speaker 5: now or nine and three, like we talked about at
- 1:08:48Speaker 5: the beginning of the show, and Pete and I agreed.
- 1:08:51Speaker 5: I think there are four teams right now that have
- 1:08:53Speaker 5: separated themselves from the rest.
- 1:08:55Speaker 2: Of the AFC.
- 1:08:56Speaker 5: I think it's the Chiefs. I think it's the Ravens.
- 1:08:58Speaker 5: I think it's the Dolphins, and I think it's Jaguars.
- 1:09:01Speaker 5: And that's not always the case. The team with the
- 1:09:02Speaker 5: best records kind of are clearly the best teams. But
- 1:09:06Speaker 5: I think it's very clear this year that those four
- 1:09:09Speaker 5: teams are a little bit better than everyone else. Now
- 1:09:12Speaker 5: where would you rank those? I mean, gun to head,
- 1:09:16Speaker 5: neutral sight field, you'd put the Chiefs one, I think.
- 1:09:21Speaker 5: I mean Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: I mean, and so you put the.
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: Chiefs one, and then right now you'd probably put the Ravens.
- 1:09:30Speaker 5: I don't know, without without Mark Andrews. I think it's
- 1:09:33Speaker 5: a toss up. It's a coin flip between the Jaguars
- 1:09:36Speaker 5: and the Ravens at two, and I'd probably put they could.
- 1:09:39Speaker 3: End they could end the argument in a couple of weeks.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: That's my point. Yeah, it's a coin flip.
- 1:09:42Speaker 3: And then all right now I put him ahead. I
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: put the Ravens ahead.
- 1:09:44Speaker 5: Of them, and then I put the Dolphins in fourth. Correct,
- 1:09:48Speaker 5: and especially with the injury to Phillips their defensive end.
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: That hurts.
- 1:09:52Speaker 6: That big hit on that turf, by the way, that
- 1:09:56Speaker 6: thing rolled up his back like you could see it
- 1:09:57Speaker 6: when he pushed off right away.
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: Yeah, terrible. They got a new field up there too,
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: didn't they this year? I don't know.
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: Well, that's the same field.
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: That they got a new surface Rogers.
- 1:10:08Speaker 3: That's where smooth it is last year too, wasn't it.
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they got a new one after
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: last season.
- 1:10:13Speaker 5: I don't understand, like he just pushed off. How's that
- 1:10:17Speaker 5: the turf like the like? Are they saying it has
- 1:10:19Speaker 5: too much give? I'd love to understand the science of
- 1:10:22Speaker 5: what they're actually saying, that the turf is causing these achilles.
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: Injuries or does it not give?
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: I don't know that.
- 1:10:29Speaker 5: I'm not being facetious.
- 1:10:32Speaker 4: I'm not.
- 1:10:32Speaker 5: I don't have an opinion one way or another. But
- 1:10:34Speaker 5: I hear a lot of players in the PA complaining
- 1:10:37Speaker 5: about certain turf fields, and met Life is at the
- 1:10:40Speaker 5: top of the list of everyone's complaints.
- 1:10:43Speaker 3: Well here, here, here's the other thing.
- 1:10:44Speaker 6: If they were all grass, then they look like Pittsburgh's
- 1:10:48Speaker 6: stadium does every year at the end of the year,
- 1:10:50Speaker 6: and everybody complained about that.
- 1:10:52Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I got my point, is pete. I'm not
- 1:10:55Speaker 5: calling balls and strikes year. I'm not saying who's right
- 1:10:57Speaker 5: or who's wrong? Right, I'd like that, I know, I
- 1:11:00Speaker 5: don't want to, you know, yeah, I want to understand
- 1:11:01Speaker 5: the science, Like, tell me why that turf I met
- 1:11:07Speaker 5: Life caused Jalen Phillips to tear his achilles when he
- 1:11:11Speaker 5: just It literally happened as he pushed off. He wasn't moving,
- 1:11:15Speaker 5: he wasn't coming to an immediate stop and trying to
- 1:11:18Speaker 5: twister turn Rogers.
- 1:11:19Speaker 3: That's how Rogers happened. He was pushing off kind of
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: planting and pushing.
- 1:11:22Speaker 5: To but he had people hanging on him, so he
- 1:11:25Speaker 5: had extra force. Like there was no contact, no nothing.
- 1:11:29Speaker 5: He just planted to go and his body said, not
- 1:11:33Speaker 5: so fast?
- 1:11:34Speaker 6: Is that kind of what's Is that kind of what
- 1:11:36Speaker 6: the Smooth's injury was last year?
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: Yeah, And so I just like.
- 1:11:40Speaker 6: What though, as bad as they complained about these fields
- 1:11:42Speaker 6: compared to the old ones that you got those artificial.
- 1:11:45Speaker 4: Turf concrete, like just your whole like carpet on concrete, your.
- 1:11:53Speaker 5: Whole body heard after that game, from the turf burns
- 1:11:56Speaker 5: to the joints pounding on cement for three hours.
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: I mean was the seams.
- 1:12:03Speaker 5: Oh, I'll never forget Monday night up in Meadowlands playing
- 1:12:07Speaker 5: the Jets. I think it happened once in Pittsburgh too,
- 1:12:11Speaker 5: Like literally the field ripped up where the scene was
- 1:12:16Speaker 5: and I kind of take its time out, like I
- 1:12:19Speaker 5: come back together, I'm put it down, like putting duct
- 1:12:21Speaker 5: tape under there, I'm like, yeah, we're in the NFL,
- 1:12:23Speaker 5: we're playing on this, but I'd love to know the
- 1:12:26Speaker 5: science around that.
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: I would think that there might be something to it,
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: but there also might be part of the people making
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: noise about it that don't have the science to back
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: it up. That's my but you don't know. I don't know.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: Next question at Extreme Champ nine one three, do you
- 1:12:43Speaker 2: like Little in Cleveland going forward? This old line looked
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: great with that combo.
- 1:12:49Speaker 5: Uh, we don't have a choice, so yes, I love it.
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: That's what we're going with.
- 1:12:57Speaker 5: Walker was you could tell Walker Little hadn't played left tackle.
- 1:13:03Speaker 5: It was he was not at the level he was before.
- 1:13:05Speaker 5: And he had some at least one ma I saw
- 1:13:08Speaker 5: for sure in the run game and he wasn't great.
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: That was a guy get the edge on him once too.
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: He wasn't. That wasn't Walker Little as best.
- 1:13:18Speaker 5: So based on just that, now him jumping from left guard,
- 1:13:22Speaker 5: I promise you'd probably get no reps all week focused
- 1:13:26Speaker 5: on playing left guard, which is a new position for him.
- 1:13:31Speaker 5: Him kicking out that game Cam, it's a it's a
- 1:13:34Speaker 5: it's a step down then when Cam was in there.
- 1:13:38Speaker 2: However, if Walker Little gets back, which he will. By
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: the way, I'm.
- 1:13:42Speaker 5: Fully confidence to the way he was playing left tackle
- 1:13:45Speaker 5: the first four weeks of the season with Ezra, I'm
- 1:13:50Speaker 5: super confident in those two guys playing next to each other.
- 1:13:52Speaker 6: No, but the question is is basically should they stay
- 1:13:55Speaker 6: there if they play well?
- 1:13:57Speaker 5: I still think if Cam comes back.
- 1:13:59Speaker 6: I mean, it's hard to say, but the X in
- 1:14:02Speaker 6: the equation is or the y any equation is what
- 1:14:04Speaker 6: if Aster Cleveland out plays walk a little at Garden
- 1:14:07Speaker 6: plays better than what do you do.
- 1:14:08Speaker 5: Well, then you probably keep him there and bring Cam
- 1:14:10Speaker 5: back at left tackle. Maybe here's another here's another little
- 1:14:13Speaker 5: wrinkling it, Pete. What if the next four weeks when
- 1:14:16Speaker 5: Cam's out, they just start steamrolling people in the run
- 1:14:21Speaker 5: game and just this offense gets going what we had
- 1:14:25Speaker 5: expected from the beginning, Do you keep Cam on the
- 1:14:30Speaker 5: bench so you don't upset the apple cart because you
- 1:14:32Speaker 5: are rolling?
- 1:14:34Speaker 3: Yeah, but you thought that would be the case. We
- 1:14:35Speaker 3: thought maybe they would be the case.
- 1:14:37Speaker 5: But it wasn't that they It was clear it wasn't
- 1:14:39Speaker 5: when you you know, when it all said after after
- 1:14:43Speaker 5: week four, it was obvious what I what I want
- 1:14:47Speaker 5: to make sure everyone appreciates listening, there are Jag fans.
- 1:14:53Speaker 5: Cam does bring it intangible that nobody else brings. In
- 1:14:57Speaker 5: my opinion, he brings in nastiness. It's the toughness and
- 1:15:01Speaker 5: energy like he brings a little something to that group.
- 1:15:06Speaker 5: And so don't discount that. I agree, And so I
- 1:15:12Speaker 5: my gut tells me when Cam comes back, if he's
- 1:15:16Speaker 5: healthy and that needs he's ready to go, he's back
- 1:15:19Speaker 5: at left tackle, and Pete brings up a great point.
- 1:15:21Speaker 5: Then it's a question who's your best left guard? Is
- 1:15:23Speaker 5: it Ezra or Walker?
- 1:15:24Speaker 2: Little?
- 1:15:25Speaker 3: Correct?
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: Next question at m zory send on me. Okay, well,
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: like that would rather not beating Tony Am I wrong
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: and thinking Trayvon Walker is actually playing really well. Is
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: being the number one overall pick and playing beside Josh
- 1:15:43Speaker 2: Allen making you look worse than he actually is.
- 1:15:47Speaker 5: That makes no sense to me the second part of the.
- 1:15:49Speaker 6: Question, because so usually if you're playing opposite a really
- 1:15:52Speaker 6: good pass rusher.
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: And it helps. I think the idea of the question is,
- 1:15:56Speaker 2: is Josh Allen's big numbers making his numbers not seem as.
- 1:16:00Speaker 5: Big after eleven games?
- 1:16:02Speaker 3: Yah?
- 1:16:02Speaker 5: Yeah, four and a half sacks that's pedestrian, right, I
- 1:16:05Speaker 5: mean I mean if you I mean, I'm not saying
- 1:16:07Speaker 5: treymont Walker is a pedestrian player because he brings a
- 1:16:11Speaker 5: physical presence in the run game. He disrupts stuff. I mean,
- 1:16:14Speaker 5: he does a lot of super valuable things. That's why
- 1:16:17Speaker 5: he's starting left end. Make no mistake, he's not the
- 1:16:21Speaker 5: starting left end on this team because he's the first
- 1:16:23Speaker 5: overall pick. He's the best.
- 1:16:26Speaker 3: He's a good player.
- 1:16:26Speaker 2: He's a good player.
- 1:16:27Speaker 6: The player is a tough, physical, tough run player sat
- 1:16:30Speaker 6: the edge. He's just not a great pass rusher. And
- 1:16:32Speaker 6: when we talk about guys on the other side, Daniel
- 1:16:35Speaker 6: Hunter has dj Wantum on the other side. Dj Wantam
- 1:16:38Speaker 6: has seven and a half sacks.
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: That's right.
- 1:16:40Speaker 5: And so he's like, there's no glossing over or looking
- 1:16:46Speaker 5: past that. His pass rush statistics are pedestrian, right, I mean,
- 1:16:52Speaker 5: it is what it is now.
- 1:16:53Speaker 3: But he's getting better at it.
- 1:16:55Speaker 2: He is.
- 1:16:55Speaker 5: And he has six games, go reel off six sacks,
- 1:16:59Speaker 5: next six games finished.
- 1:17:01Speaker 3: With ten and a half. Then and the conversation.
- 1:17:04Speaker 2: Then no big news, o Pete, big news.
- 1:17:10Speaker 5: Trending in the right direction for mister Bisselli on his
- 1:17:13Speaker 5: prediction of twenty three to twenty five sacks. You got
- 1:17:17Speaker 5: Josh Allen at twelve. You have Traymon Walker with.
- 1:17:22Speaker 2: Four and a half.
- 1:17:23Speaker 5: That's sixteen and a half. I need twenty three. So
- 1:17:27Speaker 5: I need six and a half between those two guys.
- 1:17:30Speaker 5: In the last six games.
- 1:17:34Speaker 6: We said if they got the twenty three to twenty
- 1:17:35Speaker 6: five sacks, they'd be in the super Bowl.
- 1:17:37Speaker 5: Yeah, because how many sacks is Josh Allen? Do you
- 1:17:42Speaker 5: think ends up with.
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: Sixteen?
- 1:17:46Speaker 5: I think I think it's sixteen to seventeen.
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: A lot of money, My good Josh.
- 1:17:56Speaker 6: Again, No, I'm gonna go back to the sack numbers
- 1:17:58Speaker 6: he has. He got sacks, but he had better rushes
- 1:18:00Speaker 6: when he didn't get the sacks. I mean, he's got
- 1:18:02Speaker 6: five sacks where he didn't do anything this year.
- 1:18:05Speaker 5: But he's also missed out on a couple that he
- 1:18:06Speaker 5: should have had. But Pete, and you know this as well,
- 1:18:11Speaker 5: every guy who puts up big sack numbers gets freebies.
- 1:18:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:18:15Speaker 3: Oh I get it, Yeah, I get it.
- 1:18:17Speaker 5: But the and to your point yesterday, Pete, the first
- 1:18:21Speaker 5: one was a blitz, great call by call. Well, he
- 1:18:23Speaker 5: comes unblocked, so he gets the sack there. I thought
- 1:18:26Speaker 5: he had two other really good rushes in the other
- 1:18:28Speaker 5: one and a half working inside because it's really hard
- 1:18:32Speaker 5: to beat Tunsil on the outside because he's so athletic.
- 1:18:34Speaker 5: He has good, you know, good strong hands. But he
- 1:18:38Speaker 5: had twelve pressures.
- 1:18:41Speaker 6: Right, twelve pressures where almost he had his hands on straps.
- 1:18:45Speaker 4: A couple of twelve pressures.
- 1:18:47Speaker 2: Yeah, at nine oh four, Jay z Our next question,
- 1:18:51Speaker 2: did Pete have enough time to decide whether Cam crying
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: met his criteria for tough or not?
- 1:18:55Speaker 5: Ooh, good one, Pete. I want to hear how you
- 1:18:58Speaker 5: answered that. What did you think about Cam crying on
- 1:19:01Speaker 5: the sideline?
- 1:19:01Speaker 3: I have I probably would not have cried that situation.
- 1:19:05Speaker 3: But if you're hurt to the point where you think
- 1:19:07Speaker 3: you're done for the year, I'm not going to have
- 1:19:09Speaker 3: a problem with it. I met him initially, probably thought
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: he was done for the year.
- 1:19:13Speaker 5: You know how I feel about it. Kid, The guy cares.
- 1:19:17Speaker 5: It's important to him. He's fought through injuries and the
- 1:19:20Speaker 5: pe care without crying. I didn't say you couldn't, Pete.
- 1:19:23Speaker 2: We go again.
- 1:19:24Speaker 5: Can I finish my statement? I let you say your
- 1:19:26Speaker 5: idiotic statement, how you're so tough? I wouldn't cry.
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: And would done for the cry babies. There is no
- 1:19:40Speaker 2: crying football. You're soft.
- 1:19:43Speaker 5: That's what Pete sounds like. The old man said on porch. Yes,
- 1:19:45Speaker 5: that's exactly what you said.
- 1:19:49Speaker 2: I mean.
- 1:19:49Speaker 5: Cam's fought back from injury last year, dealt with the suspension.
- 1:19:54Speaker 5: He's coming back playing good football. He's a proud man.
- 1:19:58Speaker 5: He wants to prove that. You know, he's a high
- 1:20:02Speaker 5: paid player. He loves the game. He wants to be
- 1:20:05Speaker 5: out there, and when you get hurt like that, it's devastating,
- 1:20:09Speaker 5: even if it's missing six weeks. We talked about this
- 1:20:12Speaker 5: last year, I mean last week.
- 1:20:14Speaker 4: Like I said, I'm.
- 1:20:16Speaker 2: Not done, Pete.
- 1:20:16Speaker 5: Quiet is when you are hurt, you feel like in
- 1:20:21Speaker 5: out because you're not participating, you're not contributing to make
- 1:20:25Speaker 5: a difference on the field. So like him crying to me,
- 1:20:29Speaker 5: the messages that he was emotional and he cares it's
- 1:20:33Speaker 5: important to him. Now to Pete's point, I've also seen
- 1:20:37Speaker 5: a lot of guys who it's important to and they care,
- 1:20:39Speaker 5: they don't cry. My point is who cares he was emotional?
- 1:20:44Speaker 5: It has zero Well, you make fun of people who cry,
- 1:20:48Speaker 5: it's embarrassing.
- 1:20:49Speaker 4: I don't think it's.
- 1:20:52Speaker 6: Us loses a football game and goes and curls up
- 1:20:55Speaker 6: next to his mommy and has tears from the don.
- 1:20:58Speaker 2: He goes taking shots at a twenty one year old
- 1:21:02Speaker 2: college kids speaking of crying quarterback millions playing playing the game.
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: By the way, I must say, Pete, I kind of
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: went back in your corner when the next week he
- 1:21:10Speaker 2: decided to skip the media obligations after the loss to
- 1:21:14Speaker 2: U c l A like, what are you doing, Caleb Williams,
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: I don't talk. I don't think that was the exact.
- 1:21:19Speaker 5: Next, that's a couple of weeks.
- 1:21:21Speaker 6: Every now is somebody like Tony saying, oh, he's you're
- 1:21:23Speaker 6: kicking taking shots at a kid.
- 1:21:25Speaker 3: He's making millions playing the game.
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: He's making millions on his name, image and likeness Pete,
- 1:21:29Speaker 2: not for playing its name image.
- 1:21:31Speaker 6: They're not kids anymore. They're taking millions playing a football game.
- 1:21:34Speaker 6: They're pros.
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: Next question at BMFB five four, Matt Ryan said, a
- 1:21:44Speaker 2: few times Trevor was laid on, some passes that were defended,
- 1:21:46Speaker 2: some that could have been worth points. Are those a
- 1:21:48Speaker 2: result of him being scared to throw interceptions? The receivers
- 1:21:52Speaker 2: were open on the initial break but got covered by
- 1:21:53Speaker 2: the time the ball got there had nothing to do.
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: With one l the goal line.
- 1:21:59Speaker 2: Yep, it was the player passed he tried to. I
- 1:22:01Speaker 2: thought he. I thought the mistake was he tried to.
- 1:22:03Speaker 5: Sell the fake too long and I can't figure out
- 1:22:06Speaker 5: what he was doing.
- 1:22:07Speaker 2: Yeah, he was trying to.
- 1:22:08Speaker 3: Hold that guy in the mid or something.
- 1:22:10Speaker 5: I don't know what he was and he wasn't ready
- 1:22:12Speaker 5: to throw it because Luke Farrell was wide open.
- 1:22:16Speaker 6: Yeah, and then he let the guy get over there
- 1:22:17Speaker 6: and make a play on. Well, by the way, that's
- 1:22:19Speaker 6: the only one he was really laid on.
- 1:22:21Speaker 5: Now, he threw inside one time and let the defender
- 1:22:24Speaker 5: make a play, but he was a little behind the guy.
- 1:22:26Speaker 3: I mean, but I thought was to, wasn't he on
- 1:22:29Speaker 3: that one?
- 1:22:30Speaker 2: Yes?
- 1:22:30Speaker 5: I thought the only time he was late was that.
- 1:22:33Speaker 5: I'm with Pete hundred percent that one where on the
- 1:22:38Speaker 5: play action they had it sold. Great play call that,
- 1:22:41Speaker 5: I mean, everything set up perfectly. Ferrell's by himself in
- 1:22:44Speaker 5: the flat of the end zone, and he just held
- 1:22:47Speaker 5: it too long.
- 1:22:48Speaker 4: And now, yeah, that that throw was bad that he missed.
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: He missed Ingram in the back of the end zone
- 1:22:52Speaker 3: for what should have been a touchdown.
- 1:22:53Speaker 5: Yeah, people, but you know I watched that again on
- 1:22:55Speaker 5: the TV copy, and if you watch the All twenty two.
- 1:22:59Speaker 5: I can't think of guy's name. I'll look at it
- 1:23:02Speaker 5: right here. Forty eight for the Christian Harris, the inside linebacker.
- 1:23:08Speaker 5: He was underneath and he was jumping. I think he
- 1:23:11Speaker 5: and now he got too much air inder it, but
- 1:23:12Speaker 5: he was trying to make sure he got it over
- 1:23:14Speaker 5: that linebacker level. Yeah, Harris was falling back in and
- 1:23:18Speaker 5: he just so it had to be a high thrower.
- 1:23:21Speaker 5: Evan would have gone up to catch it, but he
- 1:23:24Speaker 5: just put a little too much air, so it wasn't
- 1:23:27Speaker 5: It wasn't a straightforward miss where there's no one there.
- 1:23:29Speaker 5: He could have just fire shot it right into the chest.
- 1:23:32Speaker 5: He had to put a little touch and get it
- 1:23:34Speaker 5: over the top. And I sss it's a miss, though,
- 1:23:36Speaker 5: But I'm saying I understood. You know, there's a reason.
- 1:23:40Speaker 5: There was something that forced him to try to get
- 1:23:42Speaker 5: go go. He just went too hard.
- 1:23:44Speaker 3: Not late, not late.
- 1:23:45Speaker 2: He was not.
- 1:23:46Speaker 3: His decision making was much quicker, much faster.
- 1:23:50Speaker 5: And even though when he was late on Luke Farrell,
- 1:23:53Speaker 5: the defender didn't hit the ball, he swiped the miss
- 1:23:56Speaker 5: it hit in the chest.
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: He dropped it.
- 1:24:01Speaker 2: One more question at Saint Ogg Jaggs fan is thirteen
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: and four still realistic?
- 1:24:06Speaker 5: We've already done this. Fourteen and three is realistic. How
- 1:24:09Speaker 5: about that one?
- 1:24:10Speaker 6: Fourteen to three is possible, thirteen and four is probably realistic.
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough? I like that, Pete.
- 1:24:15Speaker 5: Good qualification there, you know, speaking of the Luke Farrell thing.
- 1:24:22Speaker 2: That you haven't fanatic thinking questions.
- 1:24:24Speaker 5: Going back to the Luke Farrell they had three big drops.
- 1:24:27Speaker 5: They did, Yes, they did the Calvin Ridley drop.
- 1:24:31Speaker 3: And I love it a touchdown.
- 1:24:33Speaker 5: I love how he came back and you know, had
- 1:24:34Speaker 5: a great second half. But that's a touchdown that makes
- 1:24:37Speaker 5: it fourteen nothing. Who knows where this game goes? That happens.
- 1:24:41Speaker 5: And then another big one and I don't remember it
- 1:24:44Speaker 5: was in the second quarter.
- 1:24:45Speaker 2: I want to look at the score. Was it was
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: a let's see here it was.
- 1:24:53Speaker 5: It was an out route to Evan Ingram and he
- 1:24:58Speaker 5: easily picks up the first round.
- 1:25:00Speaker 6: He was in the maybe in the first quarter, I think,
- 1:25:03Speaker 6: wasn't It was in the first quarter, first quarter on
- 1:25:05Speaker 6: the left left hand first drive, maybe even drive second.
- 1:25:10Speaker 6: He was on the left hand side watching it on TV.
- 1:25:14Speaker 6: He was to his left, to Trevor's left.
- 1:25:17Speaker 5: Yeah, it was Trevor's left. Was that the first or
- 1:25:19Speaker 5: I'm looking at the Texans got the ball? Jacksonville got
- 1:25:25Speaker 5: the ball? Uh oh yeah, No, I.
- 1:25:28Speaker 2: Think it was the second quarter, Pete.
- 1:25:33Speaker 6: No, because they were they were in the opposite direction
- 1:25:35Speaker 6: of the second quarter when they had the stupid decision
- 1:25:38Speaker 6: to go for it.
- 1:25:41Speaker 2: H Yeah, this is this is really great.
- 1:25:47Speaker 3: About he dropped it. He bobbled it and he dropped it.
- 1:25:51Speaker 2: That's right.
- 1:25:51Speaker 6: And then was Kirk's a drop on the sideline? Yes,
- 1:25:55Speaker 6: it was to get his hands on it, but it
- 1:25:57Speaker 6: was kind of a drop.
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: It was a drop, and you know happened there, Pete.
- 1:26:00Speaker 5: If I don't know if it showed up on TV,
- 1:26:02Speaker 5: but you could see it live in the stadium. There
- 1:26:04Speaker 5: was one sliver of sunlight, I mean one sliver and
- 1:26:09Speaker 5: that ball Kirk as he turned back, he's looking right
- 1:26:13Speaker 5: into the sunlight in the glare and if you watch it,
- 1:26:16Speaker 5: he gets his hands up there, but he almost misses
- 1:26:19Speaker 5: the ball, right he like he it's almost like he
- 1:26:22Speaker 5: lost it the last second.
- 1:26:23Speaker 6: And couldn't judge that after the game, because I bet
- 1:26:25Speaker 6: you would say that he didn't see it.
- 1:26:28Speaker 3: So, yeah, there's some key those are some key drops, right.
- 1:26:30Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, it's the it's the first it was
- 1:26:34Speaker 5: the first drive that we led to a field goalt.
- 1:26:37Speaker 2: You're exactly right.
- 1:26:38Speaker 5: Uh, it was a drop on that first drive by
- 1:26:42Speaker 5: Evan Ingram that would have probably put him on the
- 1:26:46Speaker 5: edge of the red zone or in the red zone.
- 1:26:47Speaker 5: And that opening drive that they had to sell for three.
- 1:26:50Speaker 5: So those, I mean, those are other things. And I
- 1:26:52Speaker 5: promise if you have if you talked to Ridley, Ingram,
- 1:26:55Speaker 5: Farrell and Kirk, they're like.
- 1:26:57Speaker 2: We should catch those balls and those are big play.
- 1:27:00Speaker 4: One other big thing about the points Tim.
- 1:27:03Speaker 6: They ran what three quick screens to the side I think,
- 1:27:06Speaker 6: and Tim Jones is whenever he's on the field, they're
- 1:27:09Speaker 6: running some kind of screen over in that direction. I
- 1:27:12Speaker 6: think he played five plays the whole game, if I'm
- 1:27:15Speaker 6: not mistaken, and three times they ran a quick screen
- 1:27:18Speaker 6: over to his side because he's a good blocker.
- 1:27:20Speaker 3: But it's kind of obvious, isn't it now.
- 1:27:23Speaker 2: He's very it's your favorite play, Pete, the screen.
- 1:27:26Speaker 3: I live for those those quick throws. But by the way,
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: the screen to the back against.
- 1:27:32Speaker 5: The drenest Johnson was a great boy. How many catches
- 1:27:37Speaker 5: does Evan have on the year now.
- 1:27:40Speaker 2: It's over fifty and he doesn't have a touchdown. It's
- 1:27:42Speaker 2: remarking on league history. It's remarkable.
- 1:27:45Speaker 5: He's having such a good he's so valuable, and he's
- 1:27:48Speaker 5: so good underneath.
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: And he's sixty four catches now, I'm sorry, five twenty
- 1:27:52Speaker 2: four through the air. No touchdown and.
- 1:27:54Speaker 5: I think that's is that his first drop on the year,
- 1:27:57Speaker 5: like he know that, he's so sure him.
- 1:27:59Speaker 6: I think he's off the east drop one or two before.
- 1:28:01Speaker 6: But the JP By the way, that screen is a
- 1:28:04Speaker 6: different type of screen.
- 1:28:05Speaker 3: I don't mind those kind of screens.
- 1:28:08Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, but I mean Evan.
- 1:28:10Speaker 5: We gotta get Evan, we gotta get even a touchdown?
- 1:28:12Speaker 5: Man sixty sixty four key.
- 1:28:14Speaker 3: Always defending the company ranks over there.
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: Come on, geez, come on to the job and the screens,
- 1:28:21Speaker 2: feet and the screen. Pet loves the last question we're
- 1:28:24Speaker 2: gonna break. What was your favorite part.
- 1:28:26Speaker 5: About yesterday yesterday's game?
- 1:28:28Speaker 6: Favorite part watching Trevor throw the football down the field.
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: I knew it.
- 1:28:33Speaker 5: I was gonna say, there's I was watching the game.
- 1:28:36Speaker 5: I like Pete Risco is so happy, right, now that
- 1:28:39Speaker 5: they are going vertical. Yeah, I'm not saying it's bad.
- 1:28:42Speaker 3: Don't wait, go that way, you go that way.
- 1:28:49Speaker 2: We're backing them bll but hey, grab your heads, get
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- 1:29:09Speaker 2: I do? As do I I do?
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- 1:29:57Speaker 2: Go Jags, Go Jags. Jags are eight and three, first place,
- 1:30:02Speaker 2: two games clear in the division, number three seed in
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: the AFC playoff chase, and six games to go. It's
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: good place to be. It's a good place to be.
- 1:30:14Speaker 5: What's really interesting, Yes, with all the hype and all
- 1:30:17Speaker 5: the news covered that Houston's gotten the CJ shroud, which
- 1:30:22Speaker 5: by the way, they deserve the good football team secretly,
- 1:30:26Speaker 5: like quietly that Indianapolis Colts are six and five.
- 1:30:29Speaker 2: As well, they're in second place because they beat.
- 1:30:31Speaker 5: Him and playing good football.
- 1:30:34Speaker 3: Like they are. They're playing football, but garnerments. You can't
- 1:30:37Speaker 3: take that team, well.
- 1:30:39Speaker 5: I don't think they will, Pete, but give Shane steik
- 1:30:41Speaker 5: In a ton of credit coming in. It was a
- 1:30:44Speaker 5: it was not a good situation. He inherited and they
- 1:30:47Speaker 5: cleaned house. In fact, before the game this week against Tampa,
- 1:30:51Speaker 5: they you know, they cut one of the fan favorites,
- 1:30:54Speaker 5: Shaquille uh Shaq Leonard.
- 1:30:58Speaker 2: Yeahnebacker got a bad back, did he.
- 1:31:01Speaker 5: Yes, they weren't playing him, Gus Bencht them. I mean,
- 1:31:08Speaker 5: it's a it's it's interesting everyone coming in is like, oh,
- 1:31:12Speaker 5: the FC South stinks, it's the worst division.
- 1:31:15Speaker 2: Blah blah, blah blah.
- 1:31:17Speaker 5: You got the Jags at eight and three, and you
- 1:31:18Speaker 5: got the Texans and the Colts at both six and five, and.
- 1:31:23Speaker 3: The Colts would be in right now at the playoffs start.
- 1:31:24Speaker 2: That's right, they be the seventh seed.
- 1:31:28Speaker 5: And I'll get you another another interesting one, Pete, because
- 1:31:32Speaker 5: I was on the bandwagon of jumping on this one
- 1:31:34Speaker 5: and killing them. Sean Payton and the Denver Broncos, it's amazing.
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: Six and five now.
- 1:31:41Speaker 5: They were so bad early, I mean embarrassingly bad, seventy.
- 1:31:47Speaker 3: Burger, I mean just awful.
- 1:31:50Speaker 6: And they've given up eighty points in five games and
- 1:31:53Speaker 6: they give up seventy and one. They've had sixteen takeaways
- 1:31:56Speaker 6: in the last four games.
- 1:31:57Speaker 5: They're playing good defense. Ran Russell Wilson still never he's
- 1:32:02Speaker 5: not a great quarterback anymore in my opinion, but he's
- 1:32:05Speaker 5: playing good quarterback. And Sean Payton's get is designing stuff
- 1:32:09Speaker 5: that highlights.
- 1:32:10Speaker 6: He's got twenty and four, he's got the best TV
- 1:32:13Speaker 6: interception ratio in the league.
- 1:32:14Speaker 5: But you would agree, Pete, he's not you think he's
- 1:32:16Speaker 5: elite anymore?
- 1:32:17Speaker 4: No, no, but he's having a good year.
- 1:32:20Speaker 2: They've won five in a row, and they've got Houston
- 1:32:23Speaker 2: at LA Chargers at Lions, three road games in a row,
- 1:32:27Speaker 2: home against.
- 1:32:28Speaker 4: They need it.
- 1:32:28Speaker 3: Then it gets really easy, right.
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: Yeah, Home against the Patriots, Home against the Chargers at
- 1:32:33Speaker 2: the Raiders. I mean those division games aren't easy, no
- 1:32:36Speaker 2: matter what.
- 1:32:37Speaker 3: Yeah, those aren't easy.
- 1:32:37Speaker 6: They got they they'll probably they're gonna have a tough
- 1:32:40Speaker 6: time getting to ten.
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: I think they get.
- 1:32:42Speaker 5: But I think they end up nine to eight after
- 1:32:44Speaker 5: starting with zero to four, five, one and five.
- 1:32:48Speaker 4: Yeah, they go.
- 1:32:48Speaker 3: If they get to nine, that might get him in.
- 1:32:52Speaker 5: You never know, got us in last year.
- 1:32:57Speaker 6: Because you got to figure the Steelers are good to
- 1:33:02Speaker 6: get in or the Browns.
- 1:33:03Speaker 3: One of them will get in.
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: Probably. I don't think the Browns you think that. I mean,
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: they're so.
- 1:33:09Speaker 3: Mean. The Texan schedules really favorable, by the way.
- 1:33:13Speaker 5: Yeah, but this this weekend got much tougher playing the
- 1:33:16Speaker 5: Broncos three weeks ago. They will take a much easier
- 1:33:18Speaker 5: game the Bills.
- 1:33:19Speaker 3: Then what do they got They have twice against the Titans,
- 1:33:21Speaker 3: don't they.
- 1:33:22Speaker 5: Yeah, they have the Colts and the Colts one more time,
- 1:33:24Speaker 5: and the Titans twice Yeah, the Bills getting in, and
- 1:33:29Speaker 5: I don't know if the Bills get in.
- 1:33:31Speaker 6: They Bills scheduled the next what they have the Chiefs
- 1:33:35Speaker 6: in two weeks. I'm going to that game. Then we
- 1:33:37Speaker 6: have then they have the Dallas Cowboys.
- 1:33:40Speaker 2: Yeah, Chiefs at Kansas City and then home against the
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: Cowboys at the Chargers home against the Patriots at the Dolphins. No,
- 1:33:48Speaker 2: I don't think they get in, but nobody wants them
- 1:33:51Speaker 2: in either.
- 1:33:52Speaker 3: Earlier. Yeah, if you're if you're the force, what it
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: would be?
- 1:33:57Speaker 11: Uh?
- 1:33:57Speaker 3: Which see the two? Would play them? You know? Yeah?
- 1:34:00Speaker 3: If Jacksonville were the two, you don't want to play Buffalo.
- 1:34:02Speaker 2: No, they're they're a dangerous team.
- 1:34:06Speaker 3: You'd rather play the Colts?
- 1:34:09Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh gosh, yes, absolutely.
- 1:34:11Speaker 3: For the Broncos.
- 1:34:12Speaker 2: Yes, or the Colts again, Bills. I mean, keep on
- 1:34:18Speaker 2: going down the list, Pie, I'll give you a bunch
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: of teams to rather play anybody but the Bills. Let's
- 1:34:25Speaker 2: go around the National Football League quickly hit a couple
- 1:34:27Speaker 2: of games from this week, and let's start with last
- 1:34:29Speaker 2: night's game. I actually, yesterday after news game the Eagles
- 1:34:32Speaker 2: Bills games speaking up, I.
- 1:34:34Speaker 5: Was on the plane, so I thought overtime the Bill.
- 1:34:38Speaker 6: The Bill's defense is such a shell itself. They couldn't
- 1:34:40Speaker 6: get off the field. I mean, you you go ahead
- 1:34:42Speaker 6: late in that game, you can't let him go kick
- 1:34:44Speaker 6: on tying field goal and then you get.
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: You take the lead overtime. You can't let him go
- 1:34:47Speaker 3: get a touchdown and win it.
- 1:34:49Speaker 2: So bad.
- 1:34:49Speaker 3: Josh Allen was outstanding, by the way, best player on
- 1:34:52Speaker 3: the field.
- 1:34:52Speaker 2: They missed a touchdown that would have won it. Yeah,
- 1:34:54Speaker 2: following it on Twitter.
- 1:34:56Speaker 5: Following it on Twitter, it sounded like Josh Allen was
- 1:34:59Speaker 5: just lighting it up.
- 1:35:00Speaker 3: It was amazing. He played it. It was sensational.
- 1:35:03Speaker 6: And if Gabe Davis doesn't go the wrong way on
- 1:35:06Speaker 6: his route, he wins it. In overtime, he got a
- 1:35:08Speaker 6: cover zero and he had him open and he went
- 1:35:10Speaker 6: the wrong way.
- 1:35:10Speaker 2: Has he won an overtime game since they changed the
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: rule for him, No? Six. That's incredible.
- 1:35:16Speaker 5: Someone said this, Pete, I'd love your opinion on this
- 1:35:21Speaker 5: that when he's at his best, Josh Allen is the
- 1:35:24Speaker 5: best quarterback in the NFL. Would you agree with that.
- 1:35:27Speaker 6: I would say he's probably as hard as anybody to
- 1:35:32Speaker 6: defend because he can go run. You get him and
- 1:35:34Speaker 6: he's running past you for a first down and run
- 1:35:36Speaker 6: over you.
- 1:35:37Speaker 3: He could do so many different things. He did that
- 1:35:38Speaker 3: to the Eagles on Sunday.
- 1:35:40Speaker 2: Like, like, I just think about it.
- 1:35:41Speaker 5: If you put all the top quarterbacks and I'm not
- 1:35:43Speaker 5: gonna go through all the name them.
- 1:35:44Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.
- 1:35:45Speaker 5: Said each of those at their very best, who are
- 1:35:49Speaker 5: you taking? I'm still taking Mahomes.
- 1:35:52Speaker 4: I probably would too, But I thought that was interesting.
- 1:35:54Speaker 5: I read that on from a national audun to as great.
- 1:35:58Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's like I'm saying anything.
- 1:36:00Speaker 2: He's a great player. Monday Night football, Justin Fields in
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: the three and eight Chicago Bears visit Minneapolis, send US
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: six and five Minnesota Vikings led by former Jaguars backup
- 1:36:11Speaker 2: quarterback Josh Dobbs. Who you got tonight?
- 1:36:15Speaker 5: I think it's I think the Bears are terrible, and
- 1:36:18Speaker 5: I think the Vikings are a fun story and Josh Dobbs,
- 1:36:20Speaker 5: And give Kevin O'Connell a ton of credit. He's doing
- 1:36:23Speaker 5: a great job. And they've done this all without Justin Jefferson,
- 1:36:26Speaker 5: their best player. And I think the Vikings win Pete.
- 1:36:30Speaker 6: I think the Vikings win two. I think this is
- 1:36:33Speaker 6: a defense. Frank Flores done a great job. He's one
- 1:36:35Speaker 6: of the best defensive coaches in the league. They were
- 1:36:37Speaker 6: terrible in defense last year. They blitzed a lot, though,
- 1:36:40Speaker 6: do you blitz justin fields and take those chances?
- 1:36:43Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 1:36:43Speaker 3: It might have to change it up a little bit tonight,
- 1:36:45Speaker 3: but the Vikings win.
- 1:36:46Speaker 2: There you have the picks are in. What was the
- 1:36:49Speaker 2: year that JAG said, Nick Foles, Josh Jobs and Gardner
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: Minshew on the roster. I'm trying to forget those years, JP.
- 1:36:57Speaker 5: I like the Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence, Trevor Lawrence and
- 1:37:00Speaker 5: Lawrence Pete Priscoe.
- 1:37:01Speaker 2: Have a great week. We'll see you all right, that's Tony.
- 1:37:05Speaker 2: I'm JP. Yeah, two weeks Monday Night football next week
- 1:37:08Speaker 2: and that'll do it for tonight. Thank you for listening
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