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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow morning for Wednesday, February fourteenth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Akron game in one hundred and ninety nine days, yes,
- 0:07we are under two hundred. The game against Michigan in two hundred and
- 0:10ninety days, Well we're under three hundred. There, that's something. So
- 0:14today we're going to be hearing a little more from Ryan Day. There was
- 0:17a lot of stuff he had to talk about. Last week. Kind of
- 0:20got the quick synopsis of one of the busiest, craziest months in Ohio State
- 0:24football history all in one shot from Ryan Day. So there has been a
- 0:28ton to talk about, a lot of interesting storylines. One of them has
- 0:31been the incredible success that Ohio State has had on the recruiting trail, especially
- 0:36in the defensive back position group. So one of the keys to that success
- 0:41has been Tim Walton, the cornerbacks coach. What has made him such a
- 0:46great recruiter? When what made Brian Day think that Tim Moulton could potentially do
- 0:50something like what he's doing right now? First off, it's his personality and
- 0:55his makeup, his character. I can't say enough great things about Tim Walton.
- 1:00You know, his background of developing secondary play in the NFL speaks for
- 1:07itself and the players that he's worked with. In the testimony, when you
- 1:11talk to the players, you know, they speak glowingly of what he's done
- 1:14to help them. The next thing was the fact that Tim played here.
- 1:18He's a Buckeye and he wanted to help Ohio State, you know, win
- 1:22a championship, and that was a big part of it. But then when
- 1:26you get around the more, you just realize, you know, he's talented.
- 1:27I mean, he's good in a lot of areas. And you know,
- 1:32when you're evaluating coaches, you know the first thing is, Okay,
- 1:34how are they on the field as a technician, how are they schematically?
- 1:38How are they with relating to players? How are they in recruiting? Tim
- 1:42does a lot of those things, and so our guys have embraced his mentality.
- 1:48I think our secondary is super competitive. I think they want to,
- 1:53you know, compete in everything that they're doing. You watch him and go
- 1:56through drills. I mean, they're going at it with each other. And
- 1:59I think, you know, that really reflects Tim's mentality, and I think
- 2:02you can see we have an opportunity to have a really excellent secondary this year,
- 2:06and a big part of that is what Tim's doing. And then you're
- 2:07seeing the recruiting that he's doing. So I think all those things you know
- 2:13I had up to you know, Tim being the best secondary coach in America.
- 2:16One of the big additions for Ohio, stating the transfer portal, was
- 2:19Quinshawn Judkins, the running back out of Ole Miss. Now this is a
- 2:23little bit of an unusual addition because the Buckeyes have a returning starter at running
- 2:28back, Travion Henderson is back. So how do you balance how do you
- 2:31divide up the carries between Quinn Shawn Judkins, Travon Henderson and oh yeah,
- 2:37the other running backs of the team, Dllan Hayden and the two true freshmen.
- 2:40Well when at first, you know happened and Quinn Shawn went to the
- 2:45portal. The first the first thing was, you know, talking to Trevion
- 2:51and you know, what are your thoughts? And he was unbelievable. You
- 2:54know, if you think it helps the team, coach, then then let's
- 2:57do it. And then you know, talking to Quinn Shawn saying, you
- 3:00know, Travion, you know he is here and he's coming back, and
- 3:02he said, I'd love to go play with him. I think he you
- 3:05know, said that to the media last week, and so I just think
- 3:07that both of their approaches are that they you know, they can get each
- 3:10other better. But it all started with Travion. And I think Travion's leadership
- 3:15so far this year, as he's transitioned into his fourth year, has been
- 3:20tremendous. The way that he's gone about his work, the way that he's
- 3:23holding guys accountable. He's got a different look in his eye, and I
- 3:27think that's important. You know, he's been in these games before, he
- 3:30knows. But I'll give quinnchan credit, you know, he he also has
- 3:34embraced what we've been in our culture in the next you know, the last
- 3:38couple of weeks and we'll see as it grows. But all the reports are
- 3:42that he's doing a great job of simulating. But the whole running back room,
- 3:45you know and Dallen, you know, James and Sam, that's that's
- 3:47a heck of a room and there's a lot of depth there. And when
- 3:51I think about next season, you have the your twelve game regular season,
- 3:55you have you know, the Big Ten championship game, and then you have
- 3:59the twelve team Playoff. I mean, you're talking about possibly maybe sixteen seventeen
- 4:01games, and so that's a long run. That's an NFL schedule, and
- 4:05so your roster needs to reflect that, and you know, having depth at
- 4:10running back will be very, very important. There'll be there'll be a lot
- 4:13of carries to go around. One of the new faces in Ohio State's assistant
- 4:16coaching staff this year is actually not really a new face. Matt Greary was
- 4:20an assistant for the Buckeyes a couple of years ago. He came over when
- 4:24Jim Knowles came over. He had worked with Knowles in previous stops, and
- 4:27now he's working with Jim Knowles again as the safety's coach. So what made
- 4:30him an attractive candidate for the Buckeyes this time? Yeah, I think Matt
- 4:33brings a diverse background in terms of his you know, he's been a coordinator,
- 4:38he's an excellent teacher. He also has been here before, so the
- 4:41guys, you know Lathan and you know, some of the older guys knew
- 4:45who Matt was, So it's not just a brand new addition to the staff.
- 4:49I think he's going to work really well with Tim back there. He
- 4:51knows Jim's system very well, and so that's going to be seamless. He
- 4:58knows the system. But in terms of his help on special teams, you
- 5:01know, we're going to see how big that is. But I feel like,
- 5:04you know, Matt really is a great teacher. He's very intelligent.
- 5:08He's been a coordinator before. So you know, we'll see based on how
- 5:13that tenth position shakes out, how much responsibility he'll have. There has been
- 5:16plenty of narrative around Ohio State success in the transfer portal, around boy,
- 5:21they're just buying a team, and oh, they're throwing too much money around.
- 5:25And some of that narrative has come from the folks in the Southeastern Conference,
- 5:29which, yes, your irony meter should be pegging right about now,
- 5:31I would say. So has that been sort of weird to Ryan Day to
- 5:35be accused of spending too much money, especially from folks in the SEC.
- 5:40Well, I just think recruiting is always going to be competitive. It is,
- 5:45and and so that's just you know, kind of how it goes.
- 5:47And you know, we're always trying to bring in the best talent we possibly
- 5:51can, but also the right culture fit for Ohiose State. And I've said
- 5:56this before. You don't just bring anybody in here. But all of these
- 6:00guys wanted to be here. I think that's probably the most significant. You
- 6:02know, Caleb wanted to be here, Quin Shawn wanted to be here,
- 6:05Will wanted to be here. You know, these weren't situations where you know,
- 6:12certainly you have to recruit, but we want guys who want to be
- 6:15here because in the portal nowadays, that they don't like it, they can
- 6:17just leave. So a big part of that is opening up our doors and
- 6:21our players, you know, really recruiting our guys, and that's you know,
- 6:26really where I think over time, you know, we've built the culture
- 6:30of development, We've built the culture where guys enjoy being with each other,
- 6:32and that kind of recruits itself over time, and so you know we're counting
- 6:36on that to continue to you know, build some momentum in the future.
- 6:40But but we know recruiting is very, very competitive, and you know it's
- 6:44our job as coaches, certainly as the head coach, to acquire as much
- 6:46talent as you can and then you know, go develop it. The Buck
- 6:51guys had a remarkable season in terms of keeping players who could have left for
- 6:56the NFL draft and keeping them for another year, having them come back to
- 7:00sort of finish the mission, as well as adding some guys through the transfer
- 7:02portal. So does this year does it feel a little different inside that building
- 7:08just behind the scenes right now? I think the administration has been unbelievable.
- 7:13I think Jean's been great, you know, and certainly you know, had
- 7:15conversations with Ross and and you know, President Carter has been great, you
- 7:19know. But and so that that that's been huge to you know, have
- 7:24that type of support has always been great. But you know, I just
- 7:28think that across college football right now, it's just in a very unique situation
- 7:31when you see, you know, some of the coaching changes and then you
- 7:34know, we ended up adding three guys from Alabama. It's just there's a
- 7:38lot going on right now, and so you know, our guys again,
- 7:44I think it all goes back though, to our players coming back. There's
- 7:46nothing more important than that. And so we can, you know, talk
- 7:49about the recruiting and we can talk about nil, we can talk about all
- 7:51that, but ultimately, had a bunch of guys who wanted to come back
- 7:55and finish a bunch of business that wasn't finish at the end of last year
- 7:59and and maybe you know, the guys across the country recognized that, you
- 8:01know, they see our guys, you know, they want to be part
- 8:03of our program because of you know, these guys. And I can't give
- 8:09them enough credit because to me, I know, we've added some pieces,
- 8:11But the guys who decided to come back, to me, that's the real
- 8:13story. I think there was a sense towards the end of the season that
- 8:16the buck Eyes might get back a good chunk of the players who could have
- 8:22left for the NFL, but they ended up getting back virtually everyone. Marvin
- 8:26Harrison and Michael Hall were the only two guys who left with plenty of eligibility
- 8:31left. So how much bigger was the group coming back than Ryan Day was
- 8:33expecting. I don't know. I always felt like, you know, Marv
- 8:37was was a top five pick and that was probably going to happen, you
- 8:43know, although that wasn't like a done dealer right out of the gate either.
- 8:45You know. I think it's hard when you work so hard towards your
- 8:48goals and you come up short to just walk away from it. And I
- 8:54think that goes to show you not only how competitive our guys are, but
- 8:56how much they recognize what being a buck eye is and how much they want
- 9:01to be able to come back into this building when they're older and be proud
- 9:03of of winning championships and being on the walls and all those types of things.
- 9:07And so I think that's really what it came down to in the end.
- 9:13Could these some of these guys have gone on to the NFL, Yeah,
- 9:16they could have, and they probably would have been drafted fairly high.
- 9:18And so when when you have a bunch of guys like that, that shows
- 9:22a lot about the character these guys and how much they've embraced being in Columbus
- 9:26being buck eyes. Because some of them are from Ohio, like Jack and
- 9:31you know some of the guys, but like not all of them. You
- 9:33know, they're from different parts of the country. But I think having the
- 9:37guys from Ohio, they understand what it means to be a buck eye,
- 9:41and they that's their job to make sure they understand the rivalry. But now
- 9:43they've lived it, they know what it's like. And that's different when you
- 9:48know you're Donovan Jackson coming from Houston or you're you know, JT coming from
- 9:52Seattle. You know, now you know after a couple of years of being
- 9:54in the rivalry and being at Ohio State and coming up short, you know,
- 9:58you want to leave here with something in your pocket, something you're proud
- 10:01of. And I think that's what's reverberating for the building right now. Every
- 10:07year's football team seems like it has its own kind of personality, for good
- 10:11or for ill. What is Ryan Day's view of the personality of this team
- 10:15for twenty twenty four. I think it's still being forged. And I think
- 10:20it's easy for coaches to put a bunch of slogans on shirts and do those
- 10:24types of things. We're just trying to work. We know it's a long
- 10:28run to next year, and so you know, we're not getting too worried
- 10:31about some of that. Right now. We're trying to do is just just
- 10:35just work, Just keep building this thing, keep growing, have a great
- 10:37spring, and it's a long journey the next year. And the more veteran
- 10:43you are, sometimes the more you recognize that you want to all of a
- 10:46sudden fix everything in a month that can't be fixed in a month. This
- 10:50is a long road in the next year. And I think our guys know
- 10:52that. I think our staff knows that. But but there's there is urgency.
- 10:58There's a great look in their eye, and so we'll see. We've
- 11:01still got a lot of a lot of runway out here that we've got to
- 11:05continue to work through. But but the good news is we got the right
- 11:07guys in the seats and that's what's important. Arguably, the top addition for
- 11:13the Buckeyes in the transfer portal was safety Caleb Downs. He was a freshman
- 11:16All American at Alabama last year and now the buck Eyes have him for potentially
- 11:20at least two seasons. So how does adding a player like Caleb Downs help
- 11:26take this team to the next level? Yeah, Caleb's he saw what he
- 11:30did as a freshman, you know. To say, you know, we're
- 11:33all excited to have him part of part of the program is an understatement.
- 11:37He brings a lot to the table. You guys have learned that you know,
- 11:39won't get into all that right now, but his talents, his talent
- 11:45is exceptional. But you know, he's already created unbelievablebleout discipline in his life.
- 11:50He's created the skills to play the safety position at a high level.
- 11:54But I'll tell you it's fun, you know, because that's secondary. I
- 11:56mean, they're competitive now, like they're not going to take a back seat
- 11:58to anybody. So everyone sat up a little straighter when he walked in,
- 12:01and that was good. But they embraced him. You know, he knows
- 12:05those guys through the recruiting process. So it's going to be some some some
- 12:11great competition this spring. But you know, he is very, very talented,
- 12:16and you know what, do you have one hundred and seven tackles as
- 12:18a freshman in the SEC? You know, So, I mean, my
- 12:20goodness, it's gonna be fun. The Buck guys have failed to hit any
- 12:24of their stated team goals in each of the last three seasons. Those goals,
- 12:28as they as they lay them out, are to one beat Michigan,
- 12:31two win the Big Ten, and three win the national Championship. So now
- 12:35with all of these players coming back, with all these additions to the transfer
- 12:39portal, is there a different sense of urgency around the program this year?
- 12:43There's always urgency here. You know. If you don't believe that, you
- 12:46know, try losing a game, you know, I mean, that's just
- 12:48the way it is. So you know, we always have urgency. But
- 12:54I think you know, it goes back to the guys that decided to come
- 12:58back. He's you know, talking about six or seven guys who are probably
- 13:00projecting the first three rounds decided to come back. And then you're seeing you
- 13:03know, a bunch of momentum that way. But I think it goes back
- 13:07to again the type of culture that's here. And listen, you know,
- 13:11you look the last two years, you know, we're a player two away,
- 13:15but it didn't happen. And so it's just it hurts, its stings
- 13:18all the above, and so we have to figure out a way to chase
- 13:22that last you know, few drives of a game to go finish it off
- 13:24the way we're supposed to. And you know, when you sit here in
- 13:28February, it's such a long way away to get there, but it's motivating
- 13:33our guys and there is a great sensurgency in the building. Well, that
- 13:37will do it for today's show, and that will do it, I think
- 13:39for the Ryan Day interview. I think we have sort of squeezed all the
- 13:41juice that we can out of that particular orange. But boy, there was
- 13:45a lot to talk about with him, and there's gonna be a lot to
- 13:46talk about coming up later this month. As we talk to some of the
- 13:50hopefully hopefully talk to some of the new assistant coaches, talk to some of
- 13:54the new players, talk to some of the returning players who have come back
- 13:58decided to come back for another year. We're hoping to get all those interviews
- 14:01coming up this month before spring football kicks off during the first Tuesday in March.
- 14:07We will be there for that one. Hopefully we will be there for
- 14:09the interviews. We will have a lot to talk about. There's a lot
- 14:11to talk about on the recruiting front, there's a lot to talk about potentially
- 14:15on the transfer portal front, and you can talk about it all with us
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- 14:31That is all at bucke huddle dot com. That will do it for
- 14:33today. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
- 14:37We will talk to you tomorrow.