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The human cost of vaccine injury and medical negligence · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  It's time for the truth be told with Booker Scott.
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  Thousands of people still suffer today from vaccine injuries taken from the COVID vaccine.
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  Before that, there were vaccine injuries of many types.
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  What is the answer?
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  How do we get help with this?
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  Because I've had many people on this program that have suffered from vaccine injuries.
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  I've also had someone a few times who works in that field.
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  Her name is Dr.
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  Irene Mavricakis.
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  She's a friend of mine, an associate, a colleague in Liberty, and we have her back on the program tonight.
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  I'm Booker, and this is the truth be told.
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  Irene, Dr.
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  Irene Maverickakis.
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  Welcome back to the program.
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  It's great to have you.
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  Hey, Booker.
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  Well, thank you so much for having me on to discuss this important topic.
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  Yeah, it is important.
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  And you know, when the COVID vaccine came out, and I think died suddenly, the whole died suddenly thing, I think it kind of wasn't real helpful because so many people thought that if you took the vaccine that you died.
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  So many people thought if you took the vaccine, then you got myocarditis.
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  And that's really just not even close to the truth.
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  But I think there are people that still believe that.
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  And I think in some ways, people that claim to have a vaccine injury from COVID vaccine or any others.
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  I believe that clouded the water for those people because you and I, it's your business.
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  It's what you do in the medical field.
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  And I've had people on this program before that suffer from the COVID vaccine injury.
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  We know that it's real and it's affecting people's lives.
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  And I think all of that died suddenly stuff.
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  I I think it kind of hurt uh the people that are really hurt from vaccine injuries.
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  And I've said this before when you've been on the program, you are someone that was vaxx-injured yourself many years ago.
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  This was going back 13, 14 years ago.
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  Since that time, you have made it a part of your practice, and now you're trying to get into it a little bit deeper to try to find some answers for these people that were injured during the COVID vaccine.
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  Well, yeah, you make some good points.
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  Yeah, I was vaccine injured in 2012, and was uh really sick for over eight years and found my way back to health from a combination of allopathic medicine and complimentary and alternative medicine and some interesting nutritional changes.
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  But I was a frequent flyer in the emergency room for a long time, and inadvertently through my practice as an interventional spine and musculoskeletal specialist over the years, um, vaccine injured patients will present as musculoskeletal or neurological pain, things like uh CIDP, which is chronic immune demyelinating polyneuropathy, it presents with pain and weakness in the legs, but often they get referred for a spine condition.
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  And so over the years, I wound up figuring it out that some of these people are vaccine injury.
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  There's a condition called adhesive capsulitis or frozen shoulder.
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  But some of these people, the timeline is three weeks to three months after a vaccine, and it's really shoulder injury related to vaccine administration, a cult server, and it's a compensable vaccine injury on the traditional vaccine adverse event reporting system, vaccine injury table, which of course we have this health care compensation fund to pay injuries because vaccine makers have product liability protection from a 1986 law.
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  So you make a lot of good points uh to the extent by which if we focus too much on the people dying from them, but what I've been saying to people recently, and I think this is a good point, and you can tell me if you think it is or not.
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  You know, I will.
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  If if if you all can accept people on daily medications that come into my office and they talk about, I think I'm having a side effect.
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  And if we're supposed to explain risks and benefits and side effects of medications, and we acknowledge that patients have side effects from oral medications and doctors take patients off of medications all the time from side effects, not just allergy, which is a whole other thing because it's an allergy component with these vaccines that can happen in the patients and there's a histamine-related vaccine adverse reaction.
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  And we acknowledge all of that.
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  So I don't understand what kind of cognitive dissonance the world has, or my physician colleagues for the most part, to think that injecting something into a human or a baby can't possibly have side effects.
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  Yeah.
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  That we'd want to assess, diagnose, and treat.
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  So I don't understand what is wrong with the world regards to this.
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  I don't know why everybody has their head in the sand about it.
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  But if we acknowledge it for something taken orally, it's much more an offensive event to the human body when you inject something.
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  I can't push back because I agree with everything you said.
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  A vaccine is nothing more than a medicine, and if you watch television and you see these 30-second commercials for pharmaceutical companies and new medication, it's 25 seconds of a disclaimer, and most of which I don't want any of those side effects.
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  And if you only listen to the side effects that come with most of these medications, you probably wouldn't take the medication either.
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  But I guess sometimes we need the medication to keep us alive.
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  And I guess some would argue that these vaccines are maybe in that category.
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  I know some people argue that.
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  They knew something was wrong, they were becoming sick, and they really don't have any solutions and answers for them.
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  But that's what you're trying to work on is finding a cure for these people, and many of them are walking around in society today that are still suffering from the vaccine injury from COVID.
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  What you are doing right now is the vaccine injury treatment center of excellence and research.
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  Right now is the vaccine injury treatment center of excellence and research.
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  And this is a clinical trial consortium that you're putting together.
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  And this is a clinical trial consortium that you're putting together.
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  Liberty Speaks is, and you are working with many doctors.
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  Liberty Speaks is, and you are working with many doctors.
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  I think it's over 50 that you have put together to try to work something out to try to help these people.
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  I think it's over 50 that you have put together to try to work something out to try to help these people.
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  Talk about it a little bit, talk about what you're trying to accomplish here.
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  Talk about it a little bit, talk about what you're trying to accomplish here.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, so the point of the consortium is that we already have doctors and allied health professionals.
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  So the point of the consortium is that we already have doctors and allied health professionals who have been treating both the COVID vaccine injury and COVID vaccine is really a biologic, but we won't get stuck on that.
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  And long COVID, which is all in the same spectrum, and then the other types of vaccine injuries, some of them for more than a decade.
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  But we don't have clinical trials for the most part.
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  And it's interesting.
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  If if we want to say that the medical freedom movement and truth and medicine movement is about science, then we have to have clinical trials, A, because we have to show the data and demonstrate that it's efficacious.
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  And then we have to be able to share that so we can give treatment more broadly across the country.
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  So the treatment for vaccine injury, and I lived it myself, and it's still the case, is very haphazard, it's difficult, it's not standardized.
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  So a lot of the protocols, and we can go through them, have been used by various physicians for treatment for a long time, but we don't have the clinical trials.
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  And that's the point to talk about is you know, well, why wouldn't they have rushed to do clinical trials either recently or previously?
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  And I have been bothering the administration through public and internal channel because what I wanted was a national institute of health vaccine injury center treatment and consortium so that we would go through the NIH.
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  But Irene, is there not a place where these different treatments are aggregated so that others can see what other doctors are doing?
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  Is that a part of the problem as well?
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  Well, yeah.
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  So these doctors in the consortium, and there's others that we haven't brought in, which we're working on, are all across the country doing their protocols.
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  And they have data, you know, they are paying attention to their own data, and they are showing a lot of positive results first both in symptomatology, the patient's symptoms, and in laboratory values, which is why I formed the consortium.
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  And there's no uh ability currently in the political climate of the current administration for a vaccine injury treatment center and clinical trial consortium to come out of the NIH.
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  I I it's not happening right now.
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  And so, as a libertarian, I made a decision maybe six months ago that we don't really need the government to do clinical trials, but and I need to expand on that because you kind of do the way things are right now.
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  Yeah, there's three different ways for there's three different ways for clinical trials.
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  So talk about that a little bit because it's not cheap to do you're doing a fundraiser, and you've done you're doing really well on that fundraiser, too, by the way.
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  We're gonna talk about that, give people an opportunity to uh maybe help you out if they feel like it's something they want to do.
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  But talk about that uh that process, the approval, the IRB approval process.
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  Yeah, so well, let me go back to the three ways to run clinical trials.
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  So there's industry funded, which is like pharma industry funded, and they're significantly more likely to get published and often show positive results.
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  So that's like big pharma, yeah, like industry farm.
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  I don't really think we're gonna get funding from big pharma, at least not the traditional big pharma.
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  Yeah, I wouldn't think so.
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  No.
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  And then there's academic centers, but they're very much um about publish and and perish, and there's a lot of influences.
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  Uh, it would be unlikely for us to do that.
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  I mean, we're open to going to all these pathways, and then self-funded, very rare.
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  And there's two aspects of where you need to get the money from.
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  So the first basic thing that we need to do is IRB, institutional review board approval.
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  So we're working with an independent IRB, and what that is is really a group of people approve it more from like, is this safe?
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  Are you is it the protocol given informed consent?
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  Is human subject treatment appropriate and ethical and follows all the code of ethics?
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  You know, that kind of should this even be done.
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  And so the review board typically costs around $3,500 per clinical trial just to get approval to proceed.
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  And it's you're never gonna get grants from anywhere if you don't have IRB approval.
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  You can't do the clinical trial.
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  So that's sort of the first step.
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  The first step then is that, and it costs $3,500 just to get into the door just to get this approval.
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  And then that approval then can take you further.
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  Right.
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  And then once you're approved, then you can apply for grant money.
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  So the idea is that we want multi-centered trials, right?
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  So we have physicians all over the country, and we have draft trials, and I'd like to go through the draft trials briefly and explain them.
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  There's one that's really important.
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  Um, they're doing patients in Japan with this one trial.
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  And so then once you get IRB approval, then you apply to grants, and we know where the grant money is, and we know where we're gonna apply for the grants.
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  And um, there's definitely a lot of opportunities, and including government grants.
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  So I'm not saying that we're not going to be able to get grants from the NIH and other places and private grants.
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  So we have that all kind of worked out where we're gonna go once we get IRB approval.
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  Um, I won't discuss any more details about that, but you know, clinical trials can cost 500,000 a million, depending on what we're doing.
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  It's a lot of money.
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  Sure.
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  So I mean, to be honest with you, as a libertarian, if I had my druthers, I would crowdsource fund the whole thing, you know, raise 20 million dollars, build a couple of brick and mortars.
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  That's what I wanted at the NIH.
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  That's my dream.
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  But the writing was on the wall.
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  I mean, I was directly told um that it needs to be done this way, decentralized private physicians, and that is quintessential libertarian, right?
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  We as physicians in this country can choose to find a way to do clinical trials without the influences of the powers that be that have been really not doing a service to this country and ignoring the vaccine injury, and it has to stop.
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  Can choose to find a way to do clinical trials without the influences of the powers that be that have been not doing a service to this country and ignoring the vaccine injury and it has to stop.
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  And so, as someone who was vaccine injured myself and treating vaccine injuries for a long time, it was my calling.
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  And so as someone who was vaccine injured myself and treating vaccine injuries for a long time, it was my calling.
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  Well, we're glad you're doing it, and I hope that you get enough money to get this off the ground.
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  Well, we're glad you're doing it, and I hope that you get enough money to get this off the ground.
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  I want to talk about that.
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  I want to talk about that right now.
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  This is Dr.
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  Irene Maverickakis.
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  Liberty Speaks Inc.
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  is the name of her 501c4.
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  She is trying to raise money to you know get some help for the vaccine injured people that really are just lost out there.
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  They don't know where to go, they don't know what kind of help they can get.
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  And uh Irene is one of those people that is working with them every day.
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  She's trying to pull this together.
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  And if you notice, she says consortium, I say consortium.
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  And we had this conversation before we we started this broadcast, and uh we realized that we said it two different ways, and it we both of us were like, well, which one is right?
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  And uh Irene went to artificial intelligence and we found out we're both right.
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  So if you say consortium, you're okay, and if you say it like I do consortium, you're okay too.
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  But she's bringing together uh over 50 doctors together to do this.
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  It's not gonna be cheap, as you heard, it's 3500 just to get in the door.
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  Irene, tell everybody where to go and how to give, even if it's just a little bit of money.
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  If you're interested in helping people that are vaccine injured, Irene, tell them where people can go.
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  So we started a fundraiser on give butter.
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  I've used them before, so they don't steal your money.
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  So we thought that would be a good idea.
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  Um the Give Butter Fundraiser is run by Liberty Speaks, which is my 501c4, because I deliberately didn't incorporate the consortium.
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  So it's completely a voluntary association, and there's a lot of reasons why we did that.
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  We want the physicians to maintain the independence, but I needed a fiscal fundraising sponsor.
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  And so, you know, Liberty Speaks is a 501c4.
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  That's a social justice nonprofit.
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  And so 100% of the money that we raise goes to the different types of IRB approvals uh for the different draft trials.
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  But the first one is what we call Japan A trial, which I do want to talk about maybe some of the other ones.
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  Yeah, but we're gonna get to it right after the break.
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  But give everybody the website real quick where to go.
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  You said give butter.
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  Let's say it's givebutter.com, and then what else is after it?
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  What do they do?
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  They go look for it uh under your name, Liberty Speaks, or is it givter.com slash Liberty Speaks, something like that.
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  It's uh givebutter.com, the vaccine injury treatment center of excellence and clinical trial consortium.
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  But what they can do is if you go to my Twitter at Irene Maverkakis, it's up there.
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  And if you go to Liberty Speaks, which is at National Speaks, and also Dr.
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  Bowden has it up all the time.
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  There's links to the give butter.
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  So it's also on Liberty Speaks, the promo videos on Liberty Speaks on Rumble on the Liberty Speaks Rumble page.
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  Um, the video that has all the links with a Q code and things like that.
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  So they find me there.
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  Okay, her name is Dr.
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  Irene Maverkakis.
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  We're up against the break.
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  We're gonna take it right now.
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  But when we come back, we're gonna talk about some of these trials.
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  She's mentioned Japan A trial.
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  Welcome back to the truth be told here on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
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  I am Booker Scott.
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  Thank you so much for joining us tonight.
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  And we're having a conversation about the vaccine injured.
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  There are so many of them out there, not just COVID-19 vaccine injuries, but there are vaccine injuries from all types of vaccines.
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  And Dr.
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  Mavricakis, I noticed I say Mavericakis, you say Mavericacus.
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  So I'm going to go with you from now on.
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  I've always just called you Mavricakis, but I'll I will go your way because it's your name, and I will say your name the way that you pronounce it.
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  So uh we're we're talking about uh this Japan A trial.
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  You brought it up a couple of times.
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  Let's get into that.
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  What is that about?
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  What are they trying to do?
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  And obviously they're trying to accomplish something.
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  Let's talk about what this is.
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  Yeah, so it's very important for people to understand, you know, what do we even mean by vaccine injury?
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  So the idea of vaccines is to make your immune system ready for the subsequent illness by ramping it up.
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  But this sometimes the immune system just keeps ramping up, and uh depending on the situation.
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  On the situation.
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  This is just in broad terms.
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  This is just in broad terms.
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  And so the ramp up could be autoimmune and the autoimmune could attack your immune system, like the classic vaccine injury that everybody knows is Yamberet, which is an ascending paralysis, and they treat it with plasma phoresis and IV IgG.
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  And so the ramp up could be autoimmune and the autoimmune could attack your immune system, like the classic vaccine injury that everybody knows is Yon Beret, which is an ascending paralysis, and they treat it with plasma phuresis and IV IgG.
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  What is it?
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  And a lot of and a lot of people that took COVID 19, they got that as well.
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  And a lot of and a lot of people that took COVID-19, they got that as well.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  But so the idea is you have all these immune cells and they keep going.
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  But so the idea is you have all these immune cells and they keep going.
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  And then the cytokine storm is really like the reaction.
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  And then the cytokine storm is really like the reaction that your body's trying to fight when you get sick, you get all snotty and everything.
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  And that's kind of like the basic premise of cytokine storm, and you get leaky vessels and all this kind of stuff.
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  But if it doesn't stop, you just lose a lot of energy and a lot of nutrients and a lot of electrolytes, and it causes havoc and you become not in biochemical order.
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  So it's kind of like to pretend there's no vaccine injury is kind of stupid because then you're pretending that you don't understand what the point of what you were doing in the first place with the vaccine was to ramp up the immune system, but it doesn't have a lot of controls on it.
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  So inadvertently unexpectedly, you're gonna have problems, including allergy, which is another component of cytokine storm, and I wrote a few papers on that stuff.
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  And so what is this about?
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  So this particular Japan A trial they're doing the McKern trial, they have uh up to 17 patient uh is actually there now.
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  She's starting treatment uh today in Japan time, I believe.
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  Um so the idea is to clean all that cytokine stuff out and find these um different things that happen as a consequence of the COVID shot, which is a bioweapon, and clean out all of it.
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  And so it's plasma adsorption therapy is the first part, dual filtration, clean out all the extra immune cells.
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  It's similar to plasma phoresis, but much more specific, and it's getting the amyloid out, all of these things you hear on the internet about just your immune systems releasing all these things, and then that's making you even sicker because you're just everything's going hair haywire.
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  So it's called plasma absorption therapy, right?
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  And then the second part is so interesting because Dr.
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  Cato is the physician there and his family owns the hospital, and they've been using both plasma absorption therapy and plasma phoresis and these various things for decades, and the second half of it is stem cells.
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  Now, the stem cells in Japan, their source is so interesting, and I have a funny epiphany related to it.
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  Neither one is because I I think I know where you're going because this caught my attention when I read through your paper.
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  It's and I'm so stuck on it.
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  So I hope you get stuck on it too, because I find it so interesting.
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  My P people just roll their eyes, they're like, Dr.
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  Mavs, really.
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  I'm like, no, really.
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  So because when we met with Dr.
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  Cato online, he said you want the most primordial basic stem cells, right?
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  The the less, the more less differentiated and less antigenic, less allergy producing, less reactive, right?
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  Stem cells, basic stem cells, the better it is for the recovery.
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  That's me trying to explain something very complex.
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  So in Japan, primary tooth pulp stem cells is used all the time, which is baby teeth.
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  Okay.
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  And the reason why we have Japan B trial is I'll explain, is because neither one of these is FDA approved, but we have similar in America, so I don't want to wait.
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  So I want to start potentially with Japan B.
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  Although the first $3,500 is going already.
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  I already transferred the money to Liberty Speaks bank account, and I'll be paying for their IRB in the next few days.
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  Is going to Japan A, so we can start working on it because they have to do a lot more approvals because they have to do FDA issues and it's a whole thing.
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  Okay, so I want to stop you right here because you haven't gotten into the tooth pulp stem cells enough for me.
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  You know how I am.
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  So you they come from baby teeth.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay, how much of this do you need?
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  Because baby's teeth are not very big.
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  It doesn't seem like there would be a lot of stem cells in there.
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  How does that work?
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  Is there enough to uh create the protocol for for this treatment?
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  Yeah, I mean, they have a whole protocol in Japan, and I don't know the details.
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  Okay, but um I didn't know if there were a lot of people walking around Japan with no teeth because they use their uh tooth pulp for this.
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  No, no, but it's baby teeth.
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  Now think about our culture.
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  Think about what we do with baby teeth in our culture, and what my hypothesis is our caveman ancestors probably were using baby teeth stem cells, but now our materialistic culture has the tooth fairy putting two dollars onto the pillow for the I my hypothesis is that's where it came from, and we knew some point, right?
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  Think about it.
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  Why the hell do we have the tooth fairy pain for baby teeth?
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  I just thought it was a gimmick to get your kids to act right, just like Santa Claus and the others.
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  I don't know, but like think about it.
• 26:28
  Like, did we in the past did we did we historically forget?
• 26:33
  Did our ancestors, I've been trying to look it up, but you know, it's hard.
• 26:37
  I just I just went on this rabbit hole.
• 26:40
  Did they know?
• 26:40
  Did our ancestors take baby teeth, take this stuff out and grind it up and and use it for medicinal treatment?
• 26:47
  Did the shaman use like I don't know, don't they all have teeth around them?
• 26:52
  And when you look at Africa and the stamas, yeah, yes.
• 26:56
  Yeah, you're right.
• 26:57
  I didn't think about it from that aspect of it.
• 27:00
  But let me ask you this.
• 27:01
  How did how did these people in Japan think of this?
• 27:04
  Let's use it for a long time.
• 27:07
  I don't know.
• 27:07
  Maybe going all the way back to the caveman, then possibly.
• 27:11
  I don't know, but don't you think it's interesting?
• 27:13
  Like why that's why I've been talking about it for five minutes.
• 27:17
  I saw this when I read through this, and I'm like, I I want to talk about this.
• 27:20
  I want to learn more about this.
• 27:21
  But let's move on to Japan B trial.
• 27:24
  You say you're gonna uh forward them the money, 3500 to get that approval that you need really to get in the door.
• 27:31
  So, what about Japan B trial?
• 27:35
  So Japan B is using the most advanced plasma exchange or filtration that we have FDA approved, and I've spoken to a physician who has a pretty high level one that he's in FDA approval.
• 27:47
  Can you explain that please to the audience?
• 27:49
  The plasma exchange.
• 27:51
  What does that mean?
• 27:52
  So it's all like so plasma phoresis, then plasma absorption, plasma exchange, it's all in the spectrum, different subtypes.
• 28:00
  Different subtypes.
• 28:01
  And I'm learning a lot of this myself, to be honest with you.
• 28:01
  And I'm learning a lot of this myself, to be honest with you.
• 28:04
  So if I make any wrong claims, errors, like please bear with me because I've had to learn all of this in addition.
• 28:04
  So if I make any wrong claims errors, like please bear with me because I've had to learn all of this in addition, um, is really cleaning out all the cytokines and cleaning out all the immunoglobulins and cleaning out all the amyloid, but there's different levels and uh specificity.
• 28:12
  Um really cleaning out all the cytokines and cleaning out all the immunoglobulins and cleaning out all the amyloid, but there's different levels and uh specificity.
• 28:24
  So the one in Japan, it's high um highly specific to taking out the things.
• 28:24
  So the one in Japan, it's high um highly specific to taking out the things that Kevin McCurrent has found in the lab because he's been researching what is in the blood of the people that are really sick, right?
• 28:37
  So very specific and dual filtration, so just cleaning out all the junk, right?
• 28:43
  And then these are just different types of it, right?
• 28:46
  So the best possible um plasma cleaning out system that we have in the United States, right?
• 28:54
  And then either amniotic stem cells or umbilical cord stem cells, which right?
• 29:01
  So they're as early on as you can, which some people would be like, wouldn't they be better than the tooth stem cells?
• 29:07
  But Dr.
• 29:07
  Cato told me that the baby teeth stem cells are the best for whatever reason they've been researching it for decades.
• 29:14
  And if you ever talk to Dr.
• 29:16
  Cato, I trust what that man says because he knows his family has owned this private hospital in Japan for many, many generations, and they took these researchers and are literally treating the patients there, and just such an honorable man, I can't even explain how enamored and grateful I am to know these people.
• 29:37
  Well, I hope that you guys get somewhere to help all of these people that are out there hurting and really don't have any answers.
• 29:44
  That seems to be the uh common thread between all of the ones that I've talked to, the ones that I've had come on the show, they just get frustrated because there are really no answers for them, and you're trying to provide an answer for them in these treatments.
• 29:58
  Let's talk about the different treatment arms.
• 30:00
  I know that you discussed this in your paper.
• 30:03
  Let's talk about those.
• 30:05
  Oh, the the third trial is the physiologic optimization trial.
• 30:10
  So that's a couple of things where they do various types of detox plus they look familiar, like the bromelin, some of it has some of the McCullough protocol stuff, and then Pico IV.
• 30:23
  So these are different things that have been used.
• 30:26
  Um nutraceuticals and other types of treatments that this protocol is two doctors that have been doing this for years, right?
• 30:37
  These are, but now we're gonna bring them into clinical trials, bring them into the forefront, show our data, publish our data, and bring these treatments out to the masses because them just doing it here and there is not helping all the sick people, and we have to be better scientists than the predecessors that got us to this point.
• 30:57
  And then there's another one called the multimodal trial that uses it has four three arms, and it's various types of nutraceuticals and other types of treatments more on the complementary alternative medicine side.
• 31:13
  The fifth trial is uh platelet rich plasma.
• 31:17
  This has been used for years on other types of vaccine injuries.
• 31:21
  Um, and we want to bring that as well into the forefront.
• 31:25
  And then there's another one called medicinals.
• 31:28
  It's um has a lot of studies in other countries, and it would be medicinals versus McCullough, but we might just do medicinals versus placebo, so that's subject to change.
• 31:40
  And then I had an email exchange with Dr.
• 31:45
  McCullough, and he wants to do McCullough protocol versus placebo.
• 31:49
  Um, so he's gonna work on writing that up.
• 31:52
  And then there's a really confidential controversial study that I'm working on with another physician, um, that is uh very important, and uh we're not ready to discuss because we have to have all our ducts in a row regarding it, and then another trial on the IgE component of the cytokine storm.
• 32:10
  Do you know much about platelet-rich plasma trial that's going on as part of this?
• 32:16
  Um it's not my trial, it's another physician.
• 32:20
  It's definitely on that same spectrum of fixing the infraction of the biochemical order that happens with the vaccine injury, like trying to do more of uh reset, right?
• 32:41
  Yeah, does that make sense?
• 32:43
  Um this treatment, like I mentioned, I know who the physician is, and it's been used for a while for all the vaccine injuries, like I mentioned before.
• 32:56
  I deliberately did not put any of the physicians attached to their trials because some remain uh behind the scenes still and are not interested in being public about this until we go past a grant approval process.
• 33:14
  So the only two people that are talking on Twitter and the like about being principal investigators right now are myself and Dr.
• 33:23
  Mary Tallinn Bowden who wants to do the Japan A trial um with a couple of other physicians, and so in conjunction with the Japan tree, and because some of the physicians want to wait until we have everything more established before they're public, so it's not named in there, and people have asked me why, and so I'm trying to get it out there that we just want to leave these physicians alone to save lives, and um, like I said, I think we're very susceptible to people already trying to question and and things, and so we just want the data and the clinical trials to speak to ourselves for themselves and be scientists about it, and most of them really just don't couldn't be bothered with uh the public part of it, which is I guess my job.
• 34:14
  Once you get through the process here and we find something that works and is helping people, how do you get the word out to all of the other doctors?
• 34:22
  I imagine it's through the papers that you guys will be doing.
• 34:26
  How will those be dispersed among everybody out there in the country in the medical profession?
• 34:32
  Well, first of all, once we get grant approval, and let me tell you the data on the first 14 patients in Japan, it like these people are much better after one series of treatments.
• 34:49
  I mean, I'm gonna cry.
• 34:50
  Yeah, like and I'm gonna hear the same thing about the antibody, you know, the antibodies that we use during COVID, it was the same way.
• 34:59
  People went in very sick, and within 30 minutes, an hour, they're feeling much better.
• 35:00
  Sick and within 30 minutes, an hour, they're feeling much better.
• 35:03
  And maybe that's some of what's going on here with this Japan A trial.
• 35:03
  And maybe that's some of what's going on here with this Japan A trial.
• 35:08
  Right.
• 35:08
  Right.
• 35:08
  It's like it's like um, it's based also if you think about there's a terrain versus germ theory of disease.
• 35:08
  It's like it's like um, it's based also if you think about there's a terrain versus germ theory of disease.
• 35:15
  And think about it.
• 35:15
  And think about it.
• 35:17
  If you had a fish in a fish tank that was really dirty and the fish was sick, wouldn't you clean out the fish tank at least?
• 35:17
  If you had a fish in a fish tank that was really dirty and the fish was sick, wouldn't you clean out the fish tank at least?
• 35:26
  Sure.
• 35:26
  Sure.
• 35:27
  So we're kind of cleaning out the fish tank.
• 35:27
  So we're kind of cleaning out the fish tank.
• 35:31
  We still have other things to do.
• 35:33
  They still were injected with synthetic messenger RNA that makes them a spike protein producing factory, plus other contaminants of the COVID biologic mRNA bioweapon.
• 35:44
  And the long COVID patients are also included in some of these because it's the same concept.
• 35:49
  They're sick, their fish tank is dirty, right?
• 35:52
  So and then the stem cells for the Japan trial is you know to try and reset.
• 35:57
  And each of these have various levels of trying to reset and help the biochemical order and bring them back to health and wellness.
• 36:05
  So you have to take out the trash, and then you have to restore health.
• 36:08
  So that's why yeah.
• 36:10
  I mean, this is not to be honest.
• 36:12
  Rocket science.
• 36:15
  No, no, no.
• 36:16
  This is no, no, it really isn't.
• 36:18
  Like, I don't know what's wrong with the world, but this is all based on basic medical science that we all should understand and know.
• 36:28
  This is not anything outside the realm of basic medical understandings.
• 36:34
  I'm not sure it freaks me out, like what happened to the world really, but this is not out there.
• 36:41
  And so I think it's important for us to understand that the crime against humanity was injecting an unsafe, untested bioweapon into people, but the crime against humanity part two is that they failed to diagnose the vaccine injury.
• 36:57
  Like, for example, they've been treating post vaccination induced myocarditis, the immune side, which is an autoimmune component of myocarditis.
• 37:07
  Some of the cases is been known for more than a decade or longer with IVIGG, which is like injecting other immune cells to neutralize the immune cells that are attacking your system, your nervous system, and your heart.
• 37:21
  Like those people, if their symptoms were recognized post vaccination, they could have had plasmapheresis and IVIGG and other sorts of things that have been used.
• 37:31
  It's been known.
• 37:32
  There's papers on it, right?
• 37:34
  But they weren't, they ignored, and then you get damage, right?
• 37:36
  The myocarditis is inflammation of the heart and attacking of the immune system of the heart.
• 37:41
  And then not all the cases are this.
• 37:43
  This is just one subtype, right?
• 37:45
  And then you get heart failure from the damage, which has a 20% five year survival rate.
• 37:53
  But we could have diagnosed the delay in diagnosis, failure to provide accurate diagnosis of a post-injection injury, is substandard care.
• 38:04
  It's not appropriate medicine.
• 38:06
  We're supposed to first do no harm, and we're supposed to run the differential diagnosis and see what's wrong with the patient.
• 38:11
  But because for some reason, narrative is that you can't get hurt from something that's injecting to you is absurd because I do spinal injections and I provide informed consent.
• 38:20
  And I literally tell people that they could have problems and side effects, some of them horrible.
• 38:24
  Yeah.
• 38:26
  Her name is Dr.
• 38:27
  Irene Maverkakis, and uh she is doing this vaccine injury treatment center of excellence and research clinical trial consortium or consortium, however, you want to say it, we discovered tonight that either way is just fine.
• 38:42
  Don't worry about it.
• 38:43
  The important thing is go to givebutter.com and find this.
• 38:48
  If you want to help, if you want to help it, be great, so that they can get off the ground to start helping people that have been vaccine injured, whether it was COVID-19 or any other vaccine injury, because there are a lot.
• 38:59
  It's not just COVID-19 vaccine.
• 39:01
  Again, it's the vaccine injury treatment center of excellence and research clinical trial consortium consortium.
• 39:08
  And Dr.
• 39:09
  Irene Maverkakis, tell us again your Twitter handle because you mentioned it is the best place to kind of reach out to you and find information about this.
• 39:17
  So please do that for us.
• 39:20
  Yeah, it's at Irene Mavrakacus.
• 39:23
  And the other place that you can find um a little blurb about the consortium is on a coalition of the free website, coalition of the free.
• 39:36
  And there's a little page, a landing page on Coalition of the Free that goes over the consortium and has a link to the give butter.
• 39:48
  But if they just go on Twitter and find me, they can find the gift butter.
• 39:51
  And we only launched it.
• 39:53
  Um let's see.
• 39:56
  You're doing great.
• 39:57
  You're doing great.
• 39:58
  When last Thursday, you're doing fantastic raising.
• 40:02
  And we're halfway.
• 40:04
  Oh, I'm sorry, yeah, we're halfway.
• 40:06
  I think we're like at 14,000.
• 40:07
  Plus, you know, reading the comments, uh, you know, I cry every couple of hours, and then I thank each one of them.
• 40:14
  And um, it's just uh amazing that uh we're doing this, and my libertarian heart is happy actually to be doing this in a decentralized uh private way.
• 40:29
  I it really is uh just uh a wonderful idea that really we should just do this on its own, and I think that's the epiphany for me.
• 40:39
  I think it kind of worked out the way that it was supposed to, don't you?
• 40:43
  Uh yeah, I mean, you know, you kind of know me well enough.
• 40:46
  I'm not really sure that I like to be told what to do.
• 40:52
  Coalition of the free.com, which is a coalition that I started with the national chair, the We the People Party and RLC Republican Liberty Caucus is involved.
• 41:02
  And we're working on candidates to get elected in the state and federal houses that are not corrupted and captured.
• 41:09
  But when we if you go to the R Coalition page, we put uh a whole landing page on the consortium with extra information and a link to the give butter.
• 41:21
  So that's at Coalition of the Free dot com.
• 41:25
  And then if you click on the R Coalitions button, that's also a good place to and easy to remember, other than at Irene Mavricakis Twitter.
• 41:35
  Irene, thank you so much, friend, for coming on the program and sharing all of this information.
• 41:40
  I appreciate you coming on the program.
• 41:42
  Well, thanks so much, Booker, and I really appreciate your friendship and you being my colleague in Liberty and all the other shenanigans we get into.
• 41:52
  Okay, well, have a great night.
• 41:54
  I appreciate it.
• 41:55
  Thank you so much, Booker.
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• 43:13
  You know, when we came through COVID, what a mess it was.
• 43:17
  And I think it scarred so many of us in so many different ways.
• 43:21
  When you think about the kids in school and not being in school uh socially, they've probably been set back forever.
• 43:27
  But it affected adults also.
• 43:29
  And one of those adults that was affected greatly coming through that mess was Dr.
• 43:35
  Dawn Michael.
• 43:36
  And I want her to share her story about what happened, what she went through.
• 43:41
  She's very outspoken, was outspoken on social media.
• 43:44
  You may remember the name.
• 43:46
  But let's find out also what she's doing today and and how her life is going.
• 43:51
  So let me introduce you to Dr.
• 43:53
  Dawn Michael.
• 43:54
  Dr.
• 43:54
  Michael, thank you for joining us.
• 43:56
  Thank you for having me on.
• 43:57
  Um I appreciate the fact that you're allowing me to tell my story and um really get the word out.
• 44:06
  And part of why I continue to push on Twitter, and that's that's the platform I've been using.
• 44:13
  I'm also on getter, and I have a YouTube channel, is because um the drug Remdesivere, which is responsible for um killing my husband, and also uh they gave it to me without my consent.
• 44:29
  So I had two doses that affected my health after I got out of the hospital.
• 44:34
  And the shocking thing is they continue to use it in hospitals today, and it's been approved for infants and children.
• 44:42
  Well, let's go back to the beginning of your story and kind of tell people about that, what happened, because as I remember, because I was I didn't know you at the time, but I was watching you on social media, and it was gut-wrenching.
• 44:58
  Tell everybody what happened.
• 45:00
  So my husband uh was a family practice doctor, he escaped Cuba, so he came over here um a while ago.
• 45:09
  Uh, he was 62 when he passed away.
• 45:12
  So he slowly felt um a little bit of communism socialism creeping in.
• 45:18
  He felt it a long time ago, maybe 10, 12 years ago.
• 45:22
  And um, at the time when COVID hit, I remember him and I, we had this discussion because we had an office together.
• 45:29
  Um, I did the uh mental health, he did the the family practice, and we said, why are they ushering this vaccine out so quickly?
• 45:39
  It hasn't gone through in his terms the honeymoon period.
• 45:42
  And it was a that's a natural question back then.
• 45:46
  I remember thinking the same thing.
• 45:47
  All of these other vaccines have taken all of these years to get approval.
• 45:52
  If we can approve this one in six months, how come we can't approve others in six months?
• 45:56
  But sorry for the interruption, keep going, please.
• 45:59
  Yes, and and that to me should have been a question on every doctor's mind.
• 46:03
  Like, why isn't every doctor?
• 46:05
  But the reason I know that he asked it because he had his own family practice, he wasn't in a group, they weren't telling him what to do.
• 46:13
  He was a doctor who thought outside of the box.
• 46:16
  And so for him, he also developed his own protocol protocol using ivermectin.
• 46:23
  And other doctors around the area were not able to do that because they were getting penalized for using ivermectin.
• 46:30
  But because he wasn't in the system, um, and I'm just going back a little, but people need to understand this that when Obama said all the medical doctors need to put their records into the system, um, those records became known through COVID.
• 46:46
  So they were able to track which doctors were giving patients ivermectin, and that's how they did it.
• 46:52
  And so at the time my husband had so many files, he'd already been in a five family practice for some odd 30 years.
• 46:59
  He never put them in the system.
• 47:01
  So they didn't come after him for that.
• 47:04
  And he was able to find a small compound pharmacy and give his patients ivermectin.
• 47:10
  Now, the hospital that he um sent a few of his patients to, and mind you, um, I think almost every single one of them, which was only nine, came out of the hospital alive because he was their patient advocate, and he spoke to a hospitalist there.
• 47:29
  I would hear him up at night um talking to the hospitalist, telling him how to treat his patients.
• 47:35
  And I don't think that they liked that because they get a lot of money when they give the patients in their room desivere and do the hospital protocol then and they die.
• 47:45
  I mean, that happens to so many of the patients who end up in the hospital.
• 47:50
  Um, in any event, he knew the hospitalists for 20 years.
• 47:54
  He knew all of them because he had assisted in surgery at this particular hospital, which is Los Robles Hospital in Bows and Oaks, which has a very bad reputation right now.
• 48:05
  But in any event, um, he had been treating his patients for two years.
• 48:10
  Uh, we thought that we had had COVID in the very beginning.
• 48:13
  Um, I still think we did, but I think when the Delta variant came out, I believe personally it was a different bioweapon because it affected both of us in a very different way.
• 48:25
  Yeah, I had I had that strain, and it was no fault.
• 48:30
  It was it was bad.
• 48:31
  And my oxygen level dropped down to 82 for a couple of days, and I called my doctor and told her, and she said, You need to get to the emergency room.
• 48:41
  And I'm like, no, thank you.
• 48:43
  I have no intention of going to the emergency room.
• 48:45
  And I asked her, I said, how many patients have you sent to the hospital?
• 48:51
  She said several.
• 48:52
  I said, Have any died?
• 48:53
  She said yes.
• 48:54
  I said, Have any of your patients not gone to the hospital?
• 48:57
  She said yes.
• 48:58
  I said, How many died?
• 48:59
  She said, No.
• 49:00
  No.
• 49:00
  None.
• 49:00
  None.
• 49:01
  Exactly.
• 49:01
  Exactly.
• 49:02
  Thank you.
• 49:02
  Thank you.
• 49:02
  I'll stay home.
• 49:02
  I'll stay home.
• 49:03
  And in a day or so, it was better.
• 49:03
  And in a day or so, it was better.
• 49:06
  But go go ahead.
• 49:06
  But go go ahead.
• 49:07
  I'm sorry.
• 49:07
  I'm sorry.
• 49:07
  No, you're you're exactly correct.
• 49:07
  No, you're you're exactly correct.
• 49:10
  And but the the situation is it came on um as a fever.
• 49:10
  And but the the situation is it came on um as a fever, and we thought it was the flu because uh, of course, we thought we had had COVID and he'd been treating patients with COVID for two years.
• 49:15
  We thought it was the flu because uh, of course, we thought we had had COVID and he'd been treating patients with COVID for two years.
• 49:23
  So why would we think that this would be COVID?
• 49:23
  So why would we think that this would be COVID?
• 49:25
  We thought, you know, we had the antibodies, neither one of us were vaccinated.
• 49:25
  We thought, you know, we had the antibodies, neither one of us were vaccinated.
• 49:30
  Um, and for a doctor, that was rare.
• 49:32
  Um, I I didn't believe in the vaccine, and he was one of the few doctors that didn't even re recommend the vaccine.
• 49:38
  He just would send them a video to watch.
• 49:41
  It was usually when a Dr.
• 49:42
  Peter McCullough's videos, he's like, watch this to get the other side, okay?
• 49:47
  But in any event, we both got it.
• 49:50
  He got it first, and just like you said, it attacks the lower lungs.
• 49:55
  So it was, and it comes on like I mean, I I've never experienced anything like it.
• 50:01
  That's why I I think it was a bioweapon because it just felt so unusual.
• 50:07
  But in any event, he had a high fever for three days, and then it went away for a day, which was so strange.
• 50:14
  And then it came back, and um, it happened too with the oxygen, so he couldn't breathe.
• 50:21
  Um, we got an oxygen tank at home, but it wasn't the ones that the hospitals have, and that's really what he needed.
• 50:29
  Uh so this was I think it was day nine finally.
• 50:34
  I told him to start the protocol on day seven.
• 50:37
  I said, just think, you know, you have COVID, whatever it is, just start your protocol.
• 50:42
  Um, but he did, and it got to a point where his oxygen level went below, I think it was 80, and he literally wasn't breathing.
• 50:52
  And he said, You have to take me to the hospital.
• 50:54
  I I just I'm gonna die.
• 50:57
  And I was so resistant.
• 50:58
  I'm like, I can't bring you to the hospital because I don't think you're gonna come out of the hospital.
• 51:02
  I told him that.
• 51:04
  Um, but in any event, I took him to the hospital.
• 51:07
  They wouldn't let me in with him.
• 51:09
  He went into the emergency, which was a complete nightmare.
• 51:14
  They had him there for I don't even know, uh, maybe 10, 11 hours before they even gave him a bed.
• 51:20
  And once they did that, I had called the nurses and the doctors, and I'm like, do not give him Rundecivere.
• 51:27
  Do not like I already knew, do not give it to him.
• 51:30
  And the nurses assured me that they didn't give him Remdesivir, which they lied, um, because uh, as I found out later, they had given him Remdesivir, and he was pretty out of it.
• 51:43
  So I I think for the first two days he was in there.
• 51:46
  So did they put him on the ventilator as well?
• 51:49
  Well, it didn't get to that point yet.
• 51:52
  It didn't happen yet.
• 51:54
  So he was he was in the hospital for nine days.
• 51:58
  Um what happened next is I got the same, you know, I got the delta and I wasn't doing very well, but I certainly didn't need to go to the hospital.
• 52:08
  But he we were texting back and forth.
• 52:10
  He's like, you have to come to the hospital, and then my neighbor who's a paramedic, and then my son, they just were so worried about me that they kind of insisted go to the hospital.
• 52:20
  So I went in an ambulance to the hospital.
• 52:23
  Same horror story in the waiting room.
• 52:26
  Um, where people were sitting in wheelchairs on the ground on gurneys, um, and they were only wearing masks in there, by the way.
• 52:35
  And um, I remember they asked me if I was vaccinated, and I made the mistake, and I said no, at first, and I was just treated very poorly.
• 52:46
  Um, they didn't give me water, they didn't come check me.
• 52:49
  And when they went to give me the COVID test finally, I I refused it.
• 52:54
  So I never did have a COVID test.
• 52:57
  But in the meantime, they put me in a room with three other people that didn't have COVID.
• 53:01
  So, how worried were they that it was this infectious spreading, you know, virus when I was in there with two other people, and they only had masks on, which the doctors were wearing in a flimsy way.
• 53:13
  So at this point, my husband's upstairs on the third floor.
• 53:17
  Finally, after I think it was 10 hours for me, nine hours, they wheeled me up to the third floor, and they had said they didn't have any beds, which was totally false.
• 53:28
  They had tons of beds, they had no staff.
• 53:31
  So they had fired the staff that wasn't vaccinated, and right at that time, if you remember, it was like Omicron came on, and a lot of the people were sick.
• 53:41
  So they had one charge nurse to about I don't even know, 10 patients, took like so understaffed.
• 53:48
  But the inconsistency was downstairs, they had just a mask, and upstairs they were wearing these full-on hazmat suits.
• 53:57
  I mean it it's right, right, like it's gonna change.
• 54:01
  Um, it was such theater, wasn't it?
• 54:05
  Oh my god.
• 54:06
  Yeah, and and then and then what what ended up happening to your husband in that hospital stay.
• 54:13
  So um what happened is I'm just gonna go real quick into this.
• 54:18
  They um just to finish my story with myself because it kind of coincides with him.
• 54:23
  Sure.
• 54:24
  The doctor that was treating him, they had given me remdesivere the day I I um got there, and then the next day without my consent.
• 54:33
  And this is a huge thing.
• 54:34
  I did not consent.
• 54:35
  Nobody told me they were giving me remdesivir.
• 54:38
  When I finally found out, I freaked out, and I I said to the doctor, because it is in their protocol, like you're not supposed to give somebody rumdesivere unless it's like two or three days that they've had COVID.
• 54:51
  And I said I had had it five days prior.
• 54:54
  So then the doctor agreed, oh, yeah, you don't need the rhymesivere.
• 54:57
  And I said to him, but my husband had it nine days prior, and you at this point had given him five doses of rum desivere.
• 55:04
  So the doctors knew they knew that um the chances of at least 30 to 40 percent of the people they gave it to were gonna die.
• 55:12
  And my husband, as I found out, he did have some kidney issues, and they knew that.
• 55:18
  So for him, it was a death sentence, yeah, an absolute death sentence.
• 55:22
  And ultimately that's what happened, isn't it?
• 55:25
  That's what happened, and these were his colleagues.
• 55:29
  These were his colleagues.
• 55:30
  That's what makes it so insane.
• 55:32
  Yeah, do you think it was just ignorance on their part?
• 55:36
  No, I do not.
• 55:38
  I do not remember, he wasn't sending people to the hospital, they were not making profits off of his patients, and he was he, you know, he had a lot of patients.
• 55:49
  Um so in the end, I would I was there at day five, and um the day before he texted me.
• 55:57
  I have all of his text messages and everything from when we were there.
• 56:00
  There.
• 56:00
  He said to me they called in a kidney specialist because his kidney was failing day nine, which is what happens when with Rome Desevir.
• 56:00
  He said to me they called in a kidney specialist because his kidney was failing day nine, which is what happens with Remdesivir.
• 56:09
  And then he said, I I don't think I'm gonna make it.
• 56:09
  And then he said, I don't think I'm gonna make it.
• 56:12
  And I I for the five days I was there, I kept asking if I could see him.
• 56:12
  And I I for the five days I was there, I kept asking if I could see him.
• 56:17
  Remember, he was across the hall.
• 56:17
  Remember, he was across the hall.
• 56:19
  At one point they drugged me so that I couldn't get out of bed because I tried to go over to see him.
• 56:19
  At one point they drugged me so that I couldn't get out of bed because I tried to go over to see him.
• 56:24
  Um so that was another absolutely cruel thing, is they wouldn't let us see.
• 56:24
  Um so that was another absolutely cruel thing is they wouldn't let us see each other on the same floor.
• 56:32
  Subman came in on day five when I was there, and they said to me that he had um gone into cardiac arrest.
• 56:40
  And I told them they better get me down to see him.
• 56:44
  So they went to get me a wheelchair, and by the time um they put me in the wheelchair, he had already passed.
• 56:50
  Yeah, that was awful.
• 56:51
  So it I never got to say goodbye to him.
• 56:54
  Thank you so much for having me on, and uh God bless you too.
• 56:58
  You know, people like you who are doing podcasts, and you know, we're all in this together.
• 57:02
  And and one thing I will say, what happens in California affects the rest of the country.
• 57:08
  So um it's really important that we we all work together on uh medical freedom and parental rights and everything.
• 57:17
  Um, you know, that I think all of us believe in.
• 57:20
  Dawn, thank you so much.
• 57:21
  There is only one truth.
• 57:23
  You've been listening to The Truth Be Told with Booker Scott on America Out Loud.