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  Speaker 3: We have a fun show in store for you today.
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  Speaker 1: Frank Caliendo going to join us in about 20 minutes
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  Speaker 1: to deliver the weekend observations.
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  Speaker 3: And all his Amazing voices. Can't wait for that.
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  Speaker 1: He has two shows, Palm Beach Improv, right down here
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  Speaker 1: in our neck of the woods in South Florida, October
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  Speaker 1: 9th and 10th. If you're interested in seeing Frank, you
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  Speaker 1: can go to Palm Beach Improv. Check out their website.
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  Speaker 1: Purchase tickets right there. Trey Wingo going to join us
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  Speaker 1: in the second hour of the show, as will Bear
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  Speaker 1: and T-Bob to talk some college football. Big weekend coming
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  Speaker 1: up this weekend in college football. Alabama and Georgia being
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  Speaker 1: the marquee game. I have 10 minutes to take calls.
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  Speaker 1: NFL thoughts, college football thoughts from the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: 877-99 on Fox.
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  Speaker 1: That is 877-99 on Fox. It's the only segment we
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  Speaker 1: have to take phone calls today. I want to start
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  Speaker 1: by asking Dan Beyer a quick question here. He's a
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  Speaker 1: big Seahawks fan. Dan, what were your thoughts? Kenneth Walker,
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  Speaker 1: one Super Bowl MVP for the Seahawks. You love the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: And then Kenneth Walker, well, the Seahawks decided to part
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  Speaker 1: ways with Kenneth Walker and the Chiefs decided to pick
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  Speaker 1: him up. What were your feelings when you lost the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: MVP, Dan?
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  Speaker 4: I was cool with it because I wasn't sure on
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  Speaker 4: what Kenneth Walker, Kansas City, would be getting. At that time,
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  Speaker 4: it seemed like Kenneth Walker really increased his free agent
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  Speaker 4: value with the run when Zach Charbonnet went down with
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  Speaker 4: the injury. But he was splitting time with Charbonnet throughout
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  Speaker 4: the last season. So, honestly, Stu, when he had that
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  Speaker 4: great run in the playoffs, it was like, good on you,
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  Speaker 4: thanks for helping us win a Super Bowl, and best
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  Speaker 4: of luck wherever you land in free agency.
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  Speaker 1: And what have your feelings been thus far as you've
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  Speaker 1: watched Kenneth Walker essentially be the MVP of the NFL
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  Speaker 1: through four or five weeks here?
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  Speaker 4: How was Kenneth Walker splitting reps with Zach Charbonnet all
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  Speaker 4: of last season?
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  Speaker 3: What is going on here? It's true.
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  Speaker 4: And there's even to make it worse. And again, you
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  Speaker 4: can fall back. You and Taylor talk about this. Taylor
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  Speaker 4: can always fall back. Well, the Knicks won, so no
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  Speaker 4: matter what they did, it ended up working out for them.
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  Speaker 4: But they also gave Rashid Shaheed a contract that pays
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  Speaker 4: him about $ 17 million a year. Kenneth Walker's making less,
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  Speaker 4: and now you see what Kenneth Walker's doing to the Chiefs,
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  Speaker 4: and you can kind of scratch your head and say, huh?
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  Speaker 4: But at the time, I was cool with it.
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  Speaker 1: So the reason– and you should have been cool with
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  Speaker 1: it because you have to prioritize. There's only so much
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  Speaker 1: money you could fit under the NFL salary cap. And, Dan,
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  Speaker 1: the reason I'm confused is– If Kenneth Walker is indeed
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  Speaker 1: the MVP, and you can make that argument through four weeks,
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  Speaker 1: he has been as valuable to his team as any
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  Speaker 1: player in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: But the Seahawks are 3-1 without him. And so I just,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not certain what to do in terms of defining
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  Speaker 3: the value of having Kenneth Walker on your team. Does
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  Speaker 3: that make sense? That makes total sense.
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  Speaker 4: And coming off of a game yesterday where Emmanuel Wilson
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  Speaker 4: ran really well against the Chargers, ended up having a
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  Speaker 4: 80 yards on the ground a touchdown also had a
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  Speaker 4: receiving touchdown Emmanuel Wilson is supposed to be the backup
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  Speaker 4: to Jadarian Price the rookie who's hurt and Zach Charbonnet
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  Speaker 4: hasn't even played yet so you're talking about what would
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  Speaker 4: essentially be the third most important running back this season
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  Speaker 4: ends up scoring two touchdowns and when you're paying him
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  Speaker 4: you know minimal amount of dollars it makes it that
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  Speaker 4: much easier to see Kenneth Walker do what he did
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  Speaker 4: And what he's been doing.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but do you think he'd be doing this on
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks?
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  Speaker 4: Probably not, because he'd be spinning snaps with Emmanuel Wilson
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  Speaker 4: or George Helani or Jadarian Price at that point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And there's an injury history there, and I don't want
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  Speaker 4: to jinx anybody with that, but there was some questions
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  Speaker 4: about his durability. I don't think that his explosiveness and
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  Speaker 4: his big play potential was ever in question, which had
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  Speaker 4: a lot of Seahawks fans last year wondering why. why
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  Speaker 4: there was this split between the two. It was just
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  Speaker 4: a matter of, can you keep Kenneth Walker healthy throughout
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  Speaker 4: the entire season? It ended up working out magnificently for them.
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  Speaker 4: The Charbonnet injury happened at a time where you could
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  Speaker 4: then solely rely on Walker, and he is the Super
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  Speaker 4: Bowl MVP. But we're four weeks in here, and I
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  Speaker 4: think John Schneider would tell you it was more about
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  Speaker 4: paying a running back that amount of money with questions
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  Speaker 4: about his durability.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm so torn, because the Chiefs have won, what,
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  Speaker 1: four Super Bowls without a guy like Kenneth Walker.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 1: And now everyone's talking about him as the NFL MVP,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying they're wrong. But it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: define a guy or call a guy an MVP when
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  Speaker 1: the team that he left is still successful and still
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  Speaker 1: playing at a very high level. I'm just I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to do with the player. And I'm wondering,
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  Speaker 1: as a Seahawks fan, are you upset perhaps because maybe
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  Speaker 1: they use Kenneth Walker the correct way?
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  Speaker 3: Because the Chiefs are. I mean, they are.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand the injury history. I get all of it.
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  Speaker 1: But as a Seahawks fan, you have to be a
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  Speaker 1: little bit perplexed. Hey, why didn't we use Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 1: the way Andy Reid is using Kenneth Walker?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's natural. And I think that there
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  Speaker 4: are fans that are wondering, why did that end up happening? Especially, too,
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  Speaker 4: because they didn't run the ball great against Washington in
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  Speaker 4: Week 3, which ends up kind of being their— it is
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  Speaker 4: their lone blemish on the schedule. But again, the fact is, Stu—
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  Speaker 4: Maybe Kenneth Walker ends up emerging the way that he
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  Speaker 4: did because of all that was at stake for the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 4: He made himself a lot of money during that playoff
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  Speaker 4: run and in that Super Bowl. And I don't think
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  Speaker 4: that when they parted ways, you knew he probably wasn't
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  Speaker 4: going to come back. There were certain guys you knew
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  Speaker 4: on the team last year that weren't going to come back.
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  Speaker 4: But I'll just go back to the Taylor next thing.
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  Speaker 4: They won the title. You've said this to Taylor many times.
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  Speaker 4: No matter what they did, whether it was a right
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  Speaker 4: or wrong decision, it was a decision that led them
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  Speaker 4: to win the Super Bowl. And for that, I can't
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  Speaker 4: be mad at.
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  Speaker 1: Now it seems like he's determined to make Seattle eat
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  Speaker 1: it and win a Super Bowl for Kansas City.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Dan.
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  Speaker 4: Again, Emmanuel Wilson, who was the backup in Green Bay
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  Speaker 4: to be the backup in Seattle, comes in. and has
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  Speaker 4: a great game against the Chargers. Now, if Kenneth Walker
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  Speaker 4: can make Sam Darnold not throw dumb interceptions, that's a
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  Speaker 4: whole other story. That's a completely different situation. And maybe
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  Speaker 4: it was Kenneth Walker's emergence that made Darnold not turn
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  Speaker 4: the football over or throwing it directly to opponents for
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  Speaker 4: the second straight week.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe that was the reason why.
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  Speaker 4: But, man, it's great to see what he's doing, but
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  Speaker 4: I can't take back from what happened last year because they.
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  Speaker 3: Won it all.
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  Speaker 1: 877-99 on Fox. I'll get to your calls here. In
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  Speaker 1: just a second, I don't know if you watched the
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  Speaker 1: Raiders-Chiefs game yesterday, but the announcers were telling a story
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  Speaker 1: of how Patrick Mahomes was sitting on one of those
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  Speaker 1: injury tables.
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  Speaker 3: He's being worked on.
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  Speaker 1: He's being stretched out, and he's watching television, and he's
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  Speaker 1: studying running backs, and there pops up Kenneth Walker on
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  Speaker 1: his screen, and he calls all the coaches, and he
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  Speaker 1: really popped out of the television for Patrick Mahomes.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, wow, that guy's really talented.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to have him as the Chiefs running back,
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  Speaker 1: but there's no way Seattle is going to part with him.
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  Speaker 1: He then picked up the phone, called the coaches, and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: if Kenneth Walker becomes available, go get that guy.
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  Speaker 3: We need him.
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  Speaker 1: He'll be great for us. So I am just wondering,
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  Speaker 1: and I do believe. that you wish harm upon Kenneth
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  Speaker 1: Walker this year. But I am wondering when you hear Mahomes,
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  Speaker 1: when you hear that story being told and Mahomes is
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  Speaker 1: identifying just how talented this player is, doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: It make you question John Schneider just a little bit?
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  Speaker 3: Who's Patrick Mahomes? He hasn't won a Super Bowl in
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  Speaker 3: two years.
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  Speaker 4: Seriously, who does he think he is?
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  Speaker 3: You're right. He's a guy who's about to get to re-kill.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been at least over two years since they've
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  Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl, so I don't know why Patrick
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  Speaker 4: Mahomes thinks he can talk or he's this great big
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  Speaker 4: scout now.
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  Speaker 5: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 4: Walker was off free agency. We have that little window
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  Speaker 4: of free agency where it's not free agency, but it is.
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  Speaker 5: It's underway.
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  Speaker 4: And Kenneth Walker was in a Kansas City Chiefs uniform,
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, five minutes after that. That timeline started
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  Speaker 4: in that sort of, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, sprint sprinted there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like it was like a foregone conclusion that he was
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  Speaker 4: going there.
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  Speaker 3: It happened.
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  Speaker 4: Happened pretty quick.
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  Speaker 1: The Raiders and Chiefs. The Raiders, for me, had the
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  Speaker 1: best loss of the weekend. No losses are good. But
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  Speaker 1: if there's a good loss, that was it against the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 1: They were in that game till the very end. And
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  Speaker 1: if there was a bad win, it was the Green
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  Speaker 1: Bay Packers.
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  Speaker 3: You agree?
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  Speaker 6: Gosh.
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  Speaker 3: What a terrible win. He should be fired after that win, LeFleur.
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  Speaker 4: It's not a hit piece because I think a lot
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  Speaker 4: of it is true from Ty Dunn the day before
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  Speaker 4: and how LeFleur and then people are all getting in
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  Speaker 4: line to give their Matt LeFleur stories. Yeah. When you
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  Speaker 4: almost lose to Jalen Daniels. in uh in his debut
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  Speaker 4: and he turns the football over twice and you still
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  Speaker 4: and green bay like green bay has got a little
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  Speaker 4: something with jordan love and christian watson and matthew golden
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  Speaker 4: like that trio could be very good in in a
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  Speaker 4: few years you just need to keep jordan love upright
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  Speaker 4: and you need to get matt lafleur out of town
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  Speaker 4: yeah just an absolutely awful win it really it was
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  Speaker 4: before and now the packers and the bears come into town.
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  Speaker 1: The Vikings are the worst 4-0 team in NFL history.
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  Speaker 1: The Broncos are the best 2-2 team in NFL history.
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  Speaker 3: And that concludes my NFL discussion for today. Let's take
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  Speaker 3: a quick call here. He's always there. Let's go to
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  Speaker 3: Al in Albuquerque. He wants to talk about the worst
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  Speaker 3: 4-0 team in NFL history. Go ahead, Al.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right, Stu Goss. 22nd time, long time here. And,
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  Speaker 7: you know, the Vikings are one of those, as a
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  Speaker 7: Jets fan, you could probably relate. They're one of the
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  Speaker 7: few franchises in sports where you can name their top
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  Speaker 7: five losses right off the top of your head, even
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  Speaker 7: if you're not a Vikings fan. And that's if you ignore,
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  Speaker 7: even if you ignore all four Super Bowl losses. So
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  Speaker 7: that's what we're dealing with here. So I am qualified
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  Speaker 7: to say this is the worst 4-0 the Vikings have
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  Speaker 7: ever been in their history. But I don't like Kyler Murray.
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  Speaker 7: We need to stop treating Kyler Murray like he's actually good.
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  Speaker 3: He can run around.
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  Speaker 7: He can be like a joystick highlight reel guy. That's fine.
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  Speaker 7: But let me ask you this, Stu. If they redrafted
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  Speaker 7: the 2024 draft, would JJ McCarthy even go in the
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  Speaker 7: fifth round? That's the pick they got for him. Would
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  Speaker 7: he be a fifth round pick in that draft? Because
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  Speaker 7: I don't think he would. I think he is the
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  Speaker 7: worst since Christian Ponder, the worst first overall pick any
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  Speaker 7: team has had. Just the worst reach ever. Why am
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  Speaker 7: I so mad the Vikings are 4-0?
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  Speaker 4: How about TJ Hawkinson going down at the one just
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  Speaker 4: to run out the clock only for the next day,
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  Speaker 4: all of social media to put a Vikings highlight film.
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  Speaker 4: And it's all field goals. Like, if you have the
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  Speaker 4: touchdown and you win 22 to 10, you don't have
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  Speaker 4: that sort of content. But because TJ Hawkinson was a
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  Speaker 4: team player and made the smart play, it gave every
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  Speaker 4: Vikings hater fodder to just put together a montage of
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  Speaker 4: field goal after field goal yesterday against the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for the call, Al. Dan, I actually have
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  Speaker 3: the 2024 draft pulled up on my computer here. Caleb
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  Speaker 3: would still be number one.
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  Speaker 5: Fair? Yes? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: This is knowing what we know now.
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  Speaker 1: OK, because Al asked a very interesting question.
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  Speaker 3: Would J.J. McCarthy go anywhere in the first five rounds
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  Speaker 3: knowing what we know now?
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  Speaker 1: And I think the answer is no, he would not
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  Speaker 1: knowing what we know now. But how about Jaden Daniels?
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  Speaker 1: Would he still go number two or would Drake May,
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  Speaker 1: who won three, would he go number two?
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  Speaker 4: I think May would go number two because now you
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  Speaker 4: have an injury history.
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  Speaker 5: With Jaden Daniels.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. That you wouldn't have with Drake May. Actually, Dan,
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  Speaker 3: knowing what we know now, I believe Bo Nix would
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  Speaker 3: be the second pick in the 2024 draft. Don't be ridiculous, Stu.
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  Speaker 3: Come on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how am I being ridiculous? Because Marvin Harrison Jr.,
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe he'd be a first-round pick, knowing what
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  Speaker 1: we know now.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 3: He went fourth in that draft.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Why, you feel like I'm being ridiculous by saying Bo
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  Speaker 1: Nix would go ahead of both Jaden Daniels and Drake May?
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  Speaker 3: If we knew what we knew today, I mean.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Broncos' offense right now is something. And that
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean it's good. They don't have a running game.
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  Speaker 4: They paid all that money for Jalen Waddell, and he's
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  Speaker 4: pretty much useless right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, had a touchdown yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, they lost by 10.
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  Speaker 4: They scored 14 points.
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  Speaker 3: No, I know, but look at that schedule, though, for
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  Speaker 3: the Broncos. The reason I'm saying they're the best 2-2
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  Speaker 3: team ever, they lost at Kansas City. They got blown out.
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  Speaker 3: They beat Jacksonville.
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  Speaker 1: Many people consider Jacksonville to be the best team in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, perhaps.
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  Speaker 3: They beat the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: The Rams were the best team in the NFL headed
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  Speaker 1: into the season, and they lost to the Niners on
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  Speaker 1: the road by 10 points.
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  Speaker 3: They're a good team, Dan. That's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I think they're a good team, but there's a reason
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  Speaker 4: why there's rumblings with Davis Webb and the play calling
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  Speaker 4: and Sean Payton. I mean, The QB rating of Bo Nix,
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  Speaker 4: excuse me, over these last four games, I almost called
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  Speaker 4: him Drew Brees. It hasn't been stellar. So I still
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  Speaker 4: think the jury's out with Bo Nix. I would rather
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  Speaker 4: have Jayden Daniels than Bo Nix. I will say that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he gets hurt a lot. I understand. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I'd probably go. I'd probably. Well, I'd take Caleb one.
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  Speaker 3: I would take Bo Nix two. I would go Jayden three.
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  Speaker 3: And then Drake May. At four. Did you find it funny?
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  Speaker 1: Drake May, who last week I called a clown playing
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in a circus tent. He seemed to figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: And now everyone in New England, they went from hating
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  Speaker 1: Drake May. It's Rabel's fault. And if it wasn't Rabel's fault,
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  Speaker 1: it was Diana Rossini's fault. And then and then. But
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  Speaker 1: now they're back with Drake May and they love Rabel again.
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  Speaker 1: I love sports fans.
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  Speaker 3: I do. I love sports fans so much, except for
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  Speaker 3: the ones. who live in the city of Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company
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  Speaker 3: Our thanks to Frank Caliendo for joining us in that
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  Speaker 3: last segment. That was delightful.
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  Speaker 1: Mikey, I rarely see you perk up the way you
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  Speaker 1: perked up when you heard, I think it was the
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  Speaker 1: Nicolas Cage as Madden.
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  Speaker 3: Was that it? You know what?
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  Speaker 5: It's the only one that he's done that I've never heard.
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  Speaker 5: Go see Frank live because I went. We enjoyed the
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  Speaker 5: hell out of it. I took my wife and my
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  Speaker 5: wife likes to go nowhere. She likes to do nothing.
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  Speaker 5: And I was like, hey, Frank gave us these tickets.
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  Speaker 5: I've got the let's just go. We went. We sat there,
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  Speaker 5: and as we're leaving, she goes, that was so much fun.
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  Speaker 5: We should do stuff like that more often. And I
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  Speaker 5: wanted to rip my hair out. I mean, it's already
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  Speaker 5: coming out, but I wanted to rip it out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you had that conversation. I've never had that
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  Speaker 3: conversation with my wife. How'd it go? We should do
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  Speaker 3: more stuff like this. It's why I'm hesitant to take
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  Speaker 3: her to the Palm Beach Improv on the 9th or
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  Speaker 3: the 10th because she'll say that to me after. Hey,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: that was better than I thought it was going to be.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: We should do stuff like this more often.
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: Oh, of course. And the worst part is we haven't
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: done anything since.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: And you haven't done anything.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: So, I mean, it's really not that big a gamble.
• 15:54
  Speaker 5: It's in the moment. She was like, that was so funny. I,
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: I didn't think I was going to understand it because
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: you know him through all this sports stuff, but that's
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: not what it was. But when he broke out, it's
• 16:05
  Speaker 5: the only thing I had never heard him do was
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: Nicholas cage.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: And it's, it's Frank Kelly. And it sounded just like him, um,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: I think that movie is going to be awful.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: The Madden movie you're talking about.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Madden movie is going to be awful.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: And I almost wish they would have just put a
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: suit on Frank and let him be Madden.
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: Because at least then I'd have been like, OK, I
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: can hear it.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Put it on the poll. Do you think the Madden
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: movie is going to be awful? Trey Wingo going to
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: join us in about eight minutes.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. That's why I'm laughing. I don't
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: think it has a shot. Once you cast Nicolas Cage
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: as Madden. Now, he looks like Madden. I've seen trailers
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: for it, but it's Nick Cage and I can't take
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: him seriously. But I guess I couldn't take Madden that
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: seriously either, you know?
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: See, I love Nick Cage. It's just such a bad casting.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: And the funny part is you got Christian Bale to
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: play Al Davis. And I'm like, that is an a
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: level elite actor. That is an Oscar winner in like
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: five times over. To play Al Davis. And he has
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: that aura. He falls into that character. Nicolas Cage won
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: an Oscar for playing a drunk. Yes. And now I'm
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: looking at John Madden and I just see Nicolas Cage.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: Yes. Frank's going to be at studio this Thursday. Looking
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: forward to that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Was it odd? Tell me, Mikey, is this odd? Because
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you went to it. You love the show. You and
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: your wife discussed about doing things like that more often.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: You still haven't. But I asked Taylor if he wanted
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: to go to the show because it's not just like, hey,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you have to go buy a ticket and sit down
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: and watch the show.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Frank's going to do it VIP style.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Taylor's response, I think because he is nervous about his
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Yankees and he's nervous about Carl.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Anthony Towns not getting a deal done before the season starts.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: That Taylor declined my invitation to go see Caliendo.
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: How about that?
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: That's a mistake on Taylor's part. That's just like, that's
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: a swing and a miss on Taylor's part because it's
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: him and his girlfriend will very much enjoy the show. Yes.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: And I don't mean to make this sound like a
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Frank Caliendo commercial because it's not, but I can't recommend
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: going to see it enough. Right.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: It's fantastic.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Taylor did declare the Rays game one, a must win
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: for the Rays because of Rasmussen.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: He was great. Are you nervous? Mikey here headed into
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: game two Yankees raised at the trop tonight.
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: I am, and it's for all the reasons I was
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: nervous going into the series. Your response is, well, they
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: got Schlittler on the mound. They got Schlittler on the mound.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: They're fine. Yes, I said that to you earlier. I did.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I said that earlier off air when you guys both
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: told me you were nervous. I'm like, you have your
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: ace on the hill tonight. What do you mean?
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: Well, Garrett Cole couldn't have pitched any better. He gave
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: up one, one run and they lost by one. Like
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: that is, that is the Yankees offense that Taylor and
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: I have been worried about going into this all, all,
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: all year towards the end of the year. And it's
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: so disheartening because their best moment was the double that
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: finally broke up the no-hitter by Austin Wells. Here's Austin
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Wells that people were trying to get rid of, and
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: he was going to have this moment of sparking them.
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: You know what? Let's just listen to the WFA.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: And call him.
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: Please.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Oh, please.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Swing on, hit hard.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Down the right field line.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: That is a fair ball down in the corner. Wells
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: the first.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: He's going to get the second easily.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: He's taking three.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: And here he comes.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Wells dives. Oh, goodness gracious.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: He's out by three feet.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: You hate to make that third out of third, don't you?
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Man, man.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: He blew off the stop sign and suddenly turned into
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Ricky Henderson.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, no.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: There is a video online on Twitter on X. I
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: suggest everybody who cares a little bit about baseball and
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Tim Kirchner to find it. It is the video of
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: ESPN radio's booth while they're calling that play. And Tim
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Kirchner has his hands up. And then puts them on
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: his head like, oh, no, as soon as Wells turns
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: for third. Because he is just so dead to rights.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, that is a catcher trying to leg out
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: a triple. in, in the eighth inning of a, of a,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: of game one of the ALDS, a.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: One, nothing game. Just stop it. Second, you get a
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: single and the game's tied.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: Maybe when I tell you there is a breakdown online
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: of this play, Wells wasn't at second yet when the
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: right fielder got the ball. Yes. He wasn't even like
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: he had no business making that turn. And it just
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: it was it was so deflating because you were waiting
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: for one thing to get behind. You were waiting for
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: that one moment to start cheering, to be like, hey,
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: here we come. Here's our big moment. And he he
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: was he was out by 10 feet. He was out
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: by 10 feet.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Mikey, put it on the poll.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Is Austin Wells the slowest guy in Major League Baseball
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: history to try to turn a double? into a triple
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: um speaking of seeing things between first and second did
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: you see the third base coach the yankees third base
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: coach i don't know his name yeah he was holding
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: his hands up before he got the second.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: What was he thinking? He wasn't.
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: No, he wasn't. I peeked behind the curtain. I spend
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: all my weekends usually trapped on a baseball field because
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: of my son. And I will tell you right now,
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: you ignore a sign like that, you're benched.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: You're benched.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: And those are 10 and 11-year-olds. You're benched.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Wait, so you're nervous, yet you do have Cam Schlittler
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: on the mound tonight. I mean, the rotation is set
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: up for the next two games, so you guys should
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: be fine.
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: I'm not scared of the raise offense against our pitching staff.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: I am scared against the, the Yankees offense against themselves
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: because they, I mean, they, they, they cashed in whatever
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: baseball prayers they had to score 18 run against the
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: Red Sox. And, uh, I don't think they have anything left.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll see.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I have more faith in the Yankees than you and
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Taylor seem to have, which is odd considering I'm not
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a Yankee fan.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Let's hear that call one more time, courtesy of WFAN.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: This is the slowest man in Major League Baseball history
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: trying to turn a double into a triple.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: Swing on, hit hard. Down the right field line.
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: That is a fair ball down in the corner. Wells
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: the first.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: He's got to get the second easily.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: He's taking three.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: And here he comes.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: Wells dies.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, goodness gracious. He's out by three feet. He needs
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: to make that third out at third, don't you? Man, man.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: One more time. I just want you to listen to
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: what the announcer says. He's thinking three. He's yelling at
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Austin Wells. One more time. Yelling. Swing on hit hard
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: down the right field line.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: That is a fair ball down in the corner. Wells
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: the first.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: He's got to get the second easily.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: He's thinking three.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: And here he comes.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: Oh, goodness gracious.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: He's out by three feet. You hate to make that
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: bird out at third, don't you? Man, man. What a
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: great call. Trey Wingo. I'm sorry.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: That is so awful. Why would you do that?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I did it twice. I'm tempted to do it a
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: third time.
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: You went for three.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: And I'm slower than he is.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gatz and
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Company live weekdays at 3 p.m.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: Eastern, 12 p.m. Pacific.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Thanks to Bear and T-Bob for joining us. Talk some
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: college football. Big college football weekend coming up. Alabama and Georgia.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Here we are, Mikey.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: It's still Alabama and Georgia.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Some things change. Some things don't. That's just not going
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: to change.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: No, the entire sport has changed, and yet we're still
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: sitting here waiting for Georgia, who's undefeated, to take on Alabama,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: who is also undefeated. So, Mikey, I can't believe we
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: have gone this far in the day. There is so
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: much stuff that happens on the weekends that we have
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: yet to talk about the Colorado State defensive coordinator who
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: just got play-calling duties taken.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Away from him by Mora Jr., I believe. Midway through
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: the first quarter, they proceeded to give.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Up more points when Mora was calling the plays than
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: they did when this guy was calling the plays. But
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the D coordinator for Colorado State— and I know you have
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: a question for me here— But the D coordinator just said, hey,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you know what?
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I'm going to pack it up. My job is done here.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: And he quit and left the game.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: Amazing.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine?
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: What it must be like for those players to walk
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: back off on the field, off the field to the
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: sideline and just be like, all right, coach, what are
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: we doing? What's what's the coach coach? Where is he?
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: He left.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: What?
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: He, he left.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: Does he know we play four quarters?
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: Have you ever thought about leaving in the middle of a,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Middle of a job?
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: No, you have no idea. Every damn day. just when
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: he was pounding on me and pounding and pounding and
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: calling me dumb and calling me stupid. But you know what?
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: I stayed there. And you know what I did? I
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: did my job.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: And shame, shame on the Colorado State defensive coordinator for
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: packing it up and giving up on the kids before
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: that game was over. Granted, if you're a kid on
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: that team playing defense, you go back, he's no longer there.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Perhaps you're happy.
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: Perhaps.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Because whatever he was calling wasn't working.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Perhaps.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Perhaps you're happy. But to answer your question, yes, I
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: have thought about it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: He can't get a job ever again. He's got his
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: career changed now, right? Like he, he went from, I
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: am a defensive coordinator at a D one school to
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: now I am a greeter at Walmart.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Uh yes that guy if he applies for any sort
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: of job uh i would imagine coaching job uh i
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: would imagine he will not.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Get it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: He is forever known as the guy who quit on
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: his team in the second quarter of a football game
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: yes he walked off.
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: The field yes and tell me again uh how did
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: you end it with your last job can we call
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: them for reference yeah don't do that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I mean, don't do that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: But how about Maura stripping him of play calling responsibilities
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and then going on? And then I think he started
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to call the plays and they gave up more points
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: after the guy left.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: How about that? Yeah, he made his point.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: There's a there is a there is a moment that
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: was caught where Maura was screaming into the microphone, into
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: the headset. How do we let that happen two weeks
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: in a row?
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: And my guess is, I'll be honest with you, Pete,
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: but I have no idea what happened. I have no
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: idea what led to it. I just know that man left. Yes.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: Middle of the game. Yes.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: One might say, Jim said, no mora. What a bad joke. Oh, wow.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Got the rim shot.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: Needed it.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: No more. Yes, it did. It helps everything.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: What was your question for me, Mikey, on the way
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: out here? Again, our thanks to Trey Wingo. Thanks to
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Frank Caliendo. Thanks to T-Bob at Bear for joining us.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Check out all the podcasts, College Football, Woodstugats and Bear,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: God Bless Football, and of course, Stugats and Company, the
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: show before the show.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: What do you have for me?
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Uh, if you go and you listen to Stu Gotsen,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: I was, I was on fire this morning about Aaron Glenn.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: I was, I gave a Don LaGreca style. I am,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: I am done with Aaron Glenn. I, you can't convince
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: me anything otherwise. Um, and I'm looking at this Jets. Yeah.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I was going to say you want no Mora. I mean,
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: rim shot.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Thank you. No, that's the one you just leave there, guys.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Come on. I'm looking at this Jets roster. I'm like,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: it's not a bad roster. It's a mediocre roster, right?
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: It's a mediocre roster.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: That's fair.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: Okay. And I'm looking at them in their one and three.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: And then I go and I look. And somebody posted
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: a picture. The Giants are at the top of the
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: NFC East right now at 3-1.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: 3-1.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: And you look at the Giants roster and you go,
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: that's not a good roster. That's not a bad roster.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: That's a mediocre roster. Coach.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: That's the whole difference, right? That's the difference between the
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Jets and the Giants right now, right?
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: John Harbaugh, yes.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: I would just argue competent coach. Competent coach is the difference. Now,
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: I will say John Harbaugh is beyond competent. He's above that.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: But Aaron Glenn, and I'm just sick of hearing fans say, well,
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: what about, they don't have a quarterback. They don't have
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: a quarterback. First off, Geno Smith hasn't been that bad.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: But my response to them is we just got outplayed
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: by Tyson Bajan. We just, I mean, the kid in Washington,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: in London- Had them gave them a shot.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: The kid whose name we can't pronounce that kid. Yes.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: The guy I could say so many Greek words that
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: sound just like it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: But he over everybody's head.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: He gave him a shot to win that game. Yes.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: As awful as he was to start, he gave him
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: a shot to win that game. The other big difference,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I would tell you, Mikey, with the Giants and the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Jets is the Giants schedule. especially the last two weeks
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: if Jackson Dart's going to be down you're playing with
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Jameis Winston do it against Tennessee and Arizona you know
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: And I would just say if you're going to play
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: against the Chicago Bears you'd want to play against Tyson
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: Bajan That's yes. You're right. You want to go play
• 29:58
  Speaker 5: a defense in Detroit that's giving up 32 points a game. Yes.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: Does any coach in the NFL love winning with his
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: backup more than John Harbaugh?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Like you understand what I'm saying? Being three in one
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: with Jameis Winston, who has not played that great. When
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you came there, because Jackson Dart was the quarterback, and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: he goes down week one, and then you have to
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: go to Jameis Winston, and it starts off slow, and
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: he's not very good against the Rams. He's terrible, but
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: then you win the next two. All it's doing for
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, winning without Jackson Dart and winning with Jameis Winston,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: is validating the Giants signing him to be their head coach,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: because that's what a great head coach, something we are
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: not familiar with, that's what a great head coach could
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: do for your football team.
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: It sends a signal up to the entire league. Hey,
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: come play here because we're going to have a shot.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: Doesn't matter. We're going to have a shot.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Yes. Even if Jameis Winston's our quarterback, we're going to
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: have a shot.
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's very long before we see J.J. McCarthy.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: I just don't. There's a reason they made that trade, Mikey.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: There's a reason.
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the reason is the kid in Washington.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: Calimera.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I also don't think it's long before we see Jim Harbaugh,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: John's brother, as John's assistant coach with the New York Giants.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Have a good day, everyone.