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Week 12 Game Picks, Predictions, and the Hunt for Upsets; Why the Lions may be in trouble & Why the 49ERS may just be the best team in the NFL · NFL Game Previews

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  Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome to game debut Forresent of My Mercedes Biz.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick clib On here with Greg Rosenthal and Cynthia Freeland.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Holidays to all of you.
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  Speaker 3: We hope you had a spectacular Thanksgiving, except if you're
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  Speaker 3: a Lions fan watching the Lions with family in town.
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  Speaker 2: Cynthia, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry too. I'm sorry. I don't know what to say.
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  Speaker 4: I still love the Lions. This is gonna happen. It
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  Speaker 4: just stinks what happens on Thanksgiving, you.
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  Speaker 5: Know, And I apologize, you know, for our producers and
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  Speaker 5: even Patrick, Cynthia. The bringing up your pain as a
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  Speaker 5: form of entertainment, Okay, a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot of people have like pain in the holiday season.
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  Speaker 4: So we're just all we're just playing into that, right,
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  Speaker 4: Like that's my therapist. Get employed.
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  Speaker 3: There were some other things that went wrong for us.
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  Speaker 3: We had last week's Super Bowl rematch and instant classic.
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  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts ran in two touchdowns as Philly overcame a
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  Speaker 3: ten point.
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  Speaker 2: Second half deficit.
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  Speaker 3: The Chiefs receivers did Patrick Mahomes no favors throughout the game,
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  Speaker 3: including a huge dropped by Marcozvelde Scaling that would have
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  Speaker 3: given Casey the lead in the final minutes. Here it is, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles won, just like we all thought they would. Right,
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  Speaker 3: mistakes were made Eagles and Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: It's the Super Bowl rematch. We've all been waiting for.
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  Speaker 6: Herts and Mahomes coming off bye weeks and looking like
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  Speaker 6: Super Bowl contenders again.
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  Speaker 7: Right, this is a little awkward for me at least.
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  Speaker 5: I'm picking the Kansas City Chiefs to win this game
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  Speaker 5: twenty seven to twenty fourth.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, this is automatic. We saw this in the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 6: As I said, they were six for six, two of
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  Speaker 6: those went for touchdowns, just like this one here.
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  Speaker 5: I just feel like Andre Reid's gonna find a way
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  Speaker 5: to create open receivers.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you. I actually haven't even bigger score
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  Speaker 4: than that. I have twenty seven to twenty three in
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  Speaker 4: this matter.
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  Speaker 6: For good protection, aired out Baldez Scantling dropped.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty eight twenty six, Chiefs win.
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  Speaker 6: Hairs it out down, Fion incomplete, and the Eagles take.
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  Speaker 2: Over, and they're gonna ride out of here with a victory. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead, mimus away.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to our dear editor Sean Kelly, who is
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  Speaker 3: an Eagles fan, so bron surprise after we all picked
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  Speaker 3: against them and they won. They now play host of
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  Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills on Sunday. Is anyone bold enough to
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  Speaker 3: pick against the Eagles?
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  Speaker 2: Considering Sean Kelly could do that to us.
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  Speaker 5: Again, Grig, Yes, I am bold enough. I have the
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  Speaker 5: Bills winning this week against the Eagles. You know, sometimes
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  Speaker 5: you make a wrong pick, you get it wrong on
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  Speaker 5: the show, but you're not really wrong.
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  Speaker 7: Were we really wrong.
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  Speaker 5: Last week about the Eagles who got pushed around up
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  Speaker 5: front on both sides of the ball. These aren't the
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  Speaker 5: Eagles that I had picked twenty seven straight times with
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  Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts before last week. I'm going against them partly
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  Speaker 5: because they're playing Josh Allen this week. Look, Josh Allen
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  Speaker 5: quietly having one of the best seasons of his career,
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  Speaker 5: and no one wants to admit it, because if you
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  Speaker 5: add up the interceptions and the fumbles which have been
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  Speaker 5: concentrated on some bad luck in there, Yeah, it's been
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  Speaker 5: a high number.
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  Speaker 7: Also a high number. His completion percentage over.
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  Speaker 5: Expected the highest of his career by a decent amount,
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  Speaker 5: and it passes the eye test. He's third in PFF
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  Speaker 5: scrades week to week and that throw last week to
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  Speaker 5: Khalil Shakir that was enough to just make me feel
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  Speaker 5: young again. And he's going against an Eagle secondary. They're
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  Speaker 5: the reason I keep picking against the Eagles these last
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  Speaker 5: two weeks. I just don't trust them right now. I
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  Speaker 5: think the Bills are ready to flip their season around.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I actually have the Eagles winning this one twenty
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  Speaker 4: eight to twenty three. I'm worried about the Bill's secondary.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously a ton of people on the injury report, but
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  Speaker 4: if the Bills are going to upset the Eagles, they
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  Speaker 4: are going to exploit that secondary. And Dalton Kinkaid is
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  Speaker 4: really worth mentioning. Going up to get a first round
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  Speaker 4: pick on a tight end. Some people are like, well,
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  Speaker 4: you already have Dawson Knox, what are we doing here?
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  Speaker 4: But this guy. Since Week seven, he has the second
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  Speaker 4: most receiving yards overexpected. That's sixty nine. That's a really
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  Speaker 4: big number and very important considering Dawson Knox hasn't been playing.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, when they use shifts and motions,
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  Speaker 4: this is the eye candy that we're going to be
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  Speaker 4: seeing going forward, and if they get good field position
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  Speaker 4: like last week. I mean, listen, that really helps when
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  Speaker 4: you're starting in I'm not at your own end zone.
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  Speaker 3: It's great, great, also great again Shawn's editing on that.
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  Speaker 4: Piece calling out real clowns are a whole actually.
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  Speaker 3: Scary in the idea, like there's people walking around, we
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  Speaker 3: don't know if they're actually clowns. That's what's the scary
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  Speaker 3: part to me is as long as we say I'm
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  Speaker 3: taking the Philadelphia Eagles and it has nothing to do
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  Speaker 3: with clowns or anything like that. They were the number
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  Speaker 3: one under center rushing offense, and they get that ground
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  Speaker 3: game going against the Bills defense that's number thirty in
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  Speaker 3: the league. Between the tackles, I think it's a huge
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  Speaker 3: game for DeAndre Swift. We saw it make those plays
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  Speaker 3: against Kansas City. Also, I think there's a get right
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  Speaker 3: game for aj Brown considering everything he's done after coming
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  Speaker 3: off a rough game. He and Jalen had some miscommunications.
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  Speaker 3: There was also a drop as well. I think he
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  Speaker 3: bounces back. But both quarterbacks are good. Josh Allen Jalen
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  Speaker 3: Hurts known for being mobile, one guy who isn't really
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  Speaker 3: known for it. That's Trevor Lawrence. Trev showed off his
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  Speaker 3: wheels last week.
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  Speaker 2: In doo ball.
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  Speaker 6: Travis CTN lines up at the top of you screen
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  Speaker 6: Lawrence instead looking left, he fades the initial sacker, Lawrence getting.
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  Speaker 7: Rough fat laz episode touchdown.
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  Speaker 6: There's some of that open field running ability from the quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Trevor and the Jags heading to Houston take on CJ.
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  Speaker 3: Stroud and the Texans. The winner of this game is
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  Speaker 3: in first place in the AFC South. When the game's over,
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  Speaker 3: who's gonna be in the first place?
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  Speaker 2: Correct?
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  Speaker 5: I say it's the Texans winning this one twenty four
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  Speaker 5: to twenty one. Walker Rosenthal's favorite team, partly because they
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  Speaker 5: got a quarterback, CJ.
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  Speaker 7: Stroud.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I hate when we compare quarterbacks, and yet I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna do it if I think c J. Stroud's playing
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  Speaker 5: better overall this season than Trevor Lawrence. He did the
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  Speaker 5: first time these two teams played, by the way, when
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  Speaker 5: the Texans put it on him. And I just look
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  Speaker 5: at last week's game when Trevor, I mean when c J. Stroud,
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  Speaker 5: even though he threw a three interception in that game,
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  Speaker 5: he did so many high level things that I think
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  Speaker 5: he takes advantage of a secondary that is without Tyson
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  Speaker 5: Campbell this week for the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: And if C. J.
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  Speaker 5: Stroud's a rookie and he's playing better than Lawrence, I
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  Speaker 5: think it takes him over Trevor Lawrence now and long term.
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  Speaker 4: That's spicy.
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  Speaker 7: I like it.
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  Speaker 4: I actually also have Houston winning this one, but only
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  Speaker 4: by one point. I have twenty four to twenty three
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  Speaker 4: in this matchup. We've been talking about rookies, We've been
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  Speaker 4: talking about these young guys making a habit. I would
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  Speaker 4: like to bring up an old head. Please please show
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  Speaker 4: me the Jerry Hughes video, because this is the team
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  Speaker 4: that's number four in pressures in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 4: and this guy has a sixteen point six percent quarterback
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  Speaker 4: pressure rate and his get off is point seventy four seconds.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about this for a second. All these young
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  Speaker 4: guys doing their thing, you got to bring in some
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  Speaker 4: of those not young heads to come in and make
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  Speaker 4: sure everybody knows what's up. But I really do think
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  Speaker 4: that it's the offensive line for the Jags where you've
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  Speaker 4: had some problems. You can't let them run the ball,
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  Speaker 4: they can't get play action going, and that spells a
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  Speaker 4: Texans win well.
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  Speaker 7: I love Cynthia just bringing in Jerry Hughes analysis.
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  Speaker 4: We got some of us are not, you know, rookies anymore.
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  Speaker 4: We're seasoned veterans.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to all the people who are seasoned and
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  Speaker 3: making spicy takes like Greg.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to go super spicy here.
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  Speaker 3: I will take the Jags twenty four twenty three here,
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  Speaker 3: and it solves a lot of the issues that Cynthia
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  Speaker 3: was talking about. The fact that Trevor Lawrence did and
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  Speaker 3: was willing to flash his wheels last week against the
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee Titans. I think it opens things up for this offense,
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  Speaker 3: especially in the red zone. And Cynthy was bringing up
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  Speaker 3: the pressures a little NGS insight for you. The Texans
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  Speaker 3: only convert thirteen percent of their pressures into actual sex
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  Speaker 3: and the Jacksonville Jaguars had some troubles in the red
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  Speaker 3: zone this year. Trev running opens things up for Travis etn.
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  Speaker 3: I think it opens things up for Evan Ingram as well.
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  Speaker 3: And we've all got a similar score here.
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  Speaker 2: I got the Jigs winning.
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  Speaker 4: Oh he just looks faster with that long hair running, Mike.
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  Speaker 4: When you have long hair and you're running, you just
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  Speaker 4: look speedier.
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  Speaker 2: Just open up the top like Wally West to just
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  Speaker 2: have the hair flowing.
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  Speaker 3: As we moved to the NFC North, we got a
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  Speaker 3: big matchup Monday night between the Bears and the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Check out some player props for that game.
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  Speaker 3: We got Josh Dobbs, Justin Field, Hockinson, Addison, DJ Moore.
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  Speaker 3: Looking at those props making some choices there. Let's dive
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  Speaker 3: into this one. The Bears in the Vikings on Monday night,
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  Speaker 3: Minnesota trying to keep pace in the NFC Playoff. It's
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  Speaker 3: Dobbs versus Fields, a fun one. How do you see
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  Speaker 3: it going something?
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  Speaker 4: I like Minnesota to take this one twenty six to
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  Speaker 4: twenty two. But I have to bring up how good
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  Speaker 4: Justin Fields has been so the wild card in this one.
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking at what's going on with the Vikings defense
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  Speaker 4: and it's like they're just doing lots of wild things.
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  Speaker 4: They like bring the house with pressure, then they'll drop
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  Speaker 4: everyone into just really wild, fun, interesting things. However, that's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be interesting matched up with Justin Field's skill set,
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  Speaker 4: and by the way, against the Lions, he had career
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  Speaker 4: highs in rushing yards with twelve rushing attempts on designed
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  Speaker 4: runs and fifty five rushing yards. Those are career highs
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  Speaker 4: from them. Those specific areas that could be an area
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  Speaker 4: that gives them troubles. I gotta give him, you know,
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  Speaker 4: his props here the Bears. That was good. That was
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  Speaker 4: a good showing by the Bears. And if you go
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  Speaker 4: against the Lions and you win, then I'm gonna always
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  Speaker 4: say it, you know, I'm gonna always bring it up
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  Speaker 4: and just add to at least the Bears didn't win.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, they've been playing so well.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the last three justin field starts have been fantastic,
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  Speaker 5: which is why I'm picking against them and not feeling
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  Speaker 5: great about it. I get I think you can feel that,
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  Speaker 5: like the Vikings win this game twenty three to twenty.
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  Speaker 5: But this isn't one Cynthia and I have a lot
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  Speaker 5: of confidence in. But I think the Vikings find a
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  Speaker 5: way because the Bears just find a way to lose games,
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  Speaker 5: and the Vikings have enough offensive weapons. Alexander Madison and
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  Speaker 5: Jordan Addison. Let's start with Jordan Addison. YO, to me,
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  Speaker 5: he is if he's not a number one, he's like
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  Speaker 5: Jalen Wattle as a number two.
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  Speaker 7: That is how good he is.
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  Speaker 5: And Justin Jefferson has a chance to play in this game.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he's expected to play in this game,
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  Speaker 5: but even if he doesn't, his matchup against this secondary
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  Speaker 5: in Chicago, and they've been playing better as a defense overall,
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  Speaker 5: but ultimately they give up too many big plays. Then
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  Speaker 5: a week ago, finally Alexander Madison in this running game
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  Speaker 5: started to show up for Minnesota. I think that could
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  Speaker 5: really unlock this defense. I know the Bears run defense
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  Speaker 5: has been pretty good throughout the season, but if they
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  Speaker 5: can be balanced with Josh Dobbs taking some attention away
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  Speaker 5: as a runner and a passer, I think they just
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  Speaker 5: have enough. They've found ways to win close games, whereas
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  Speaker 5: the Bears usually find ways to lose closet.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what happened against the Detroit Lions, and it's
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  Speaker 3: what's happened throughout this season. And that's also why I
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  Speaker 3: am taking the Minnesota Vikings here another close score for me,
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  Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty two, because while the Bears defense
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  Speaker 3: is playing better, especially since the additions that they've got.
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  Speaker 3: Also got to write this down coming up a little
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  Speaker 3: bit later in the show on the Bears defense. But
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  Speaker 3: let's discuss one thing that teams have not been able
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  Speaker 3: to do, and that is get number fifteen on the ground,
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  Speaker 3: regardless of what team he's playing for. The Broncos did
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  Speaker 3: it late kind of in that game, but Josh Dobbs
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  Speaker 3: was spectacular.
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  Speaker 2: You've won a number.
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  Speaker 3: He's averaging ten yards per scramble this year, ten yards
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  Speaker 3: the first down.
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  Speaker 2: He's been leading rusher on two teams. Love the story.
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  Speaker 3: Wait what don't necessarily Yeah, he's still leading the Cardinals
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  Speaker 3: in rushing, leading the Vikings in rushing as of right now,
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  Speaker 3: Josh Dobbs is doing it, and folks, you know it's
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  Speaker 3: meme away hes alert.
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  Speaker 7: We were not afraid, kids.
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  Speaker 2: I'm afraid of this one. This one, this one does
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  Speaker 2: talk for that.
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  Speaker 3: Coming up, Lamar and the Ravens winning five of their
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  Speaker 3: last six games, will they keep things rolling? Sunday across
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  Speaker 3: the street from us against the Chargers are picks right
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  Speaker 3: after the break.
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  Speaker 8: I have full confidency, like I've told you, and like
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  Speaker 8: I told you from the beginning, I have full confidence
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  Speaker 8: in our way of playing. Full confidence in myself is
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  Speaker 8: to play caller and the way that we teach and
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  Speaker 8: the way that we scheme, full confidence in that we
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  Speaker 8: got to bring this group together and do it consistently. Okay,
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  Speaker 8: and that's where it's at. So you can stop asking
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  Speaker 8: that question.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to be calling the defenses. Okay, so we're clear,
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  Speaker 8: so you don't have to ask that again.
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  Speaker 2: It's time for the.
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  Speaker 3: Drive to Excellence presented by Mercedes Benz As Brandon State
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  Speaker 3: was driven to say, don't ask me any more about.
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  Speaker 7: Who man, I'll stop asking you man.
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  Speaker 3: I guess so maybe I'll get enough. That was after
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  Speaker 3: last Sunday's loss to the Packers. Things don't get any
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  Speaker 3: easier this week for the Bolts. They have the Baltimore
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  Speaker 3: Ravens on Sunday Night football. Will Brandon Staley again be
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  Speaker 3: answering that question?
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  Speaker 5: I think so people are gonna be asking him, how
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  Speaker 5: come you can't cover Odell Beckham and Rashad Bateman in
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  Speaker 5: this wide receiver group. I know they haven't always lived
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  Speaker 5: up to the billion this year. Nelson Aguilar Zey Flower
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  Speaker 5: certainly has been great all year, but I think this
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  Speaker 5: is a secondary where you spread them out and there's
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  Speaker 5: gonna be communication breakdowns. Brandon Staley said during the week
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  Speaker 5: that he's gonna be making changes in his secondary and
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  Speaker 5: he's looking at different things, and they already got rid
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  Speaker 5: of J. C.
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  Speaker 7: Jackson. They can't bring in extra players.
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  Speaker 5: I think this Ravens offense and really this team is
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  Speaker 5: gonna go as their dropback passing game goes. And for
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  Speaker 5: the most part, I see really consistent signs of progress,
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  Speaker 5: and I think this is a terrific matchup for the Ravens.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I have a much closer game, but I still
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  Speaker 4: have twenty three points, so it's the same on that,
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  Speaker 4: but I actually have Baltimore taking this one twenty five
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  Speaker 4: to twenty three. A lower scoring games, Baltimore figures out
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  Speaker 4: how to navigate without Mark Andrews, at least for this
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  Speaker 4: particular game. But when I'm looking at the opportunity against
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  Speaker 4: this Ravens pass defense, it is not great. They don't
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  Speaker 4: even need to blitz. They have thirty one sacks without
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  Speaker 4: using the blitz. That's seven more than any other team
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  Speaker 4: I could name. Like everyone on this team has at
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  Speaker 4: least like twenty four pressure something crazy like that, and
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  Speaker 4: especially in the middle, and that's kind of the area
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  Speaker 4: where Austin Eckler likes to operate. They're really stout there
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  Speaker 4: as well. So I just don't think that this Ravens
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  Speaker 4: defense is going to allow anything crazy to happen as
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  Speaker 4: they adjust to a Mark Andrewsis situation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we all agree on a couple of fronts. I
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  Speaker 2: have Baltimore winning this game.
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  Speaker 3: I also think the Chargers are going to score twenty
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  Speaker 3: three points eight to twenty three for me and Odell
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  Speaker 3: Beckham Jnior did describe himself as day today. He's got
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  Speaker 3: the most targets since Week seven, twenty seven. Of these targets,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be even more valuable, especially
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  Speaker 3: without Mark Andrews. As Odell is operating in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the field. They've had a lot of shots down
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  Speaker 3: the sidelines Odell. They've had success in terms of drawing
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  Speaker 3: pass interference penalties, but they haven't necessarily connected on those.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe those are reserved for Rashad Bateman from here on out,
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  Speaker 3: and we get to see Odell working in the middle
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  Speaker 3: of the field as he was against the Cincinnati Bengals
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  Speaker 3: and playing pretty well meme away as we're all taking.
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  Speaker 7: The ball, Ravens three points, give me a brain.
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  Speaker 3: It's staying in the AFC. Don't look now, but the
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  Speaker 3: Broncos ripping off four straight wins. White Russ is cooking
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  Speaker 3: Denver in the playoff hunt.
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  Speaker 6: All that puts on the way, give it that press,
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  Speaker 6: West clumps the ball.
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  Speaker 7: To the end zone.
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  Speaker 5: It is touchdown defer.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: That is Parkland seven.
• 14:41
  Speaker 7: This a red zone touchdown.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: Of the year.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: The Bronco's playing host of the Cleveland Browns. Cleveland winning
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: three straight. They said at seven and three, Cynthia, do
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: they go to eight and three?
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Twenty one to twenty Cleveland is what the model has
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: been out, which was very close and interesting, And it's
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: really about defense this year, more than ever, defenses have
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: the advantage in terms of reading wins. That's just the
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: way the pendulum swings. Some years it's offense, some years
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: it's defense. This year it's defense. And Zadarius Smith. We
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: talk a lot about Miles Garrett, but I know I
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: talk a lot about Miles Garrett, but Zadarius Smith he
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: is also doing really well and a key important and
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: crucial part to making Russ not cook, along with a
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: lot of other quarterbacks along the way. So I think
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: you just have to give credit all along here. And
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: by the way, we didn't forget about you Zadarias Smith
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: still love you.
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: I love him too, and I love when me and
• 15:33
  Speaker 5: the model are on the same Patriot. This is our
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: second underdog where we're both picking this week. I got
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: the Browns winning this game, low scoring game, seventeen to fourteen,
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: and I think it's just one of those weeks that
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: we realize all the narratives about the Broncos offense have
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: just been narratives. The Browns defense is the dominant group
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: in this game. And it's not just Zadarius Smith. It's
• 15:52
  Speaker 5: not just Miles Garrett. It's ogbo Okoronquo, it's Alvin Tomlinson,
• 15:56
  Speaker 5: it's this whole group working together. I don't know if
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: any group does a better job with their stunts and
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: their twists and Jim arm Orts right, everything is just working.
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: And this offensive line for the Broncos not impressive overall,
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: and Russell Wilson gets rid of the ball so quickly,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: his average depth of target is so short, shortest in
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: the league, shortest of his career by far. I don't
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: think that's gonna work against this Browns pass rush. So overall,
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: their defense is gonna get it done well.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: When you mentioned the offensive line being overmatched and Russ
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: not necessarily having a lot of time. That's every week.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: That's every week for the Denver Broncos. I'm taking the
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: Denver Broncos here.
• 16:33
  Speaker 7: They're playing the Browns every week.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: They're not.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: But if they are able to do this, it's gonna
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: be in the same fashion that most of those wins
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: have come.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: We showed you the win against the Minnesota Vikings. It's
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton just making huge play.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: After you look at the one handed catch, he goes
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: up and Moss is.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: A defender for the game winner.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Every single time the Broncos need to play, he has
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: made it in the red zone eleven catches this season.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Ninety nine yards and seven touchdowns.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I think possessions are gonna be huge here, and I
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: trust this offense and particularly this receiver.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: To make a play.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know that I can get that over
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: on the other side. As much fun as we've had
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: with dtr Yes, the stray bonds barking up a storm here,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: it could go could go either way, could go really
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: bad for me coming up, We'll see if it gets
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: worse for me. Regard as the Falcons, I can't pick
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: them right to save my life. They're a game back
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: in the NFC South.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Toss Rider and the John Tims Atlanta playoff first one
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: are back with the Saints and Falcons coming up next.
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: The Saints and the Falcons for first place in the
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: NFC South. Desmond Ridder back under center for Atlanta, Derek
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Carr back for the Saints.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Does that move you in one way or the other?
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: Crowd that doesn't move me, but this matchup does move me,
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: like inside, you know, there's two things. I know that
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: Number one, the Saints Falcons best rivalry in the entire NFL,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: measured by fan hatred and memes and in tweets, I
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: just love it. Number Two, but John Robinson is gonna
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: go off down the stretch and it's gonna start in
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: this game against a surprisingly mediocre Saints run defense twenty
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: third in the league in terms of giving up yards
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: per carrie. I thought the game before the bye for
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: the Falcons, where they gave Beajon twenty two carries, was
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: telling the governor is off. They're gonna let Bajon Robinson
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: dominate touches and that can only mean good things for
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: this Falcons team that hasn't run the ball great this year,
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: but I think this is the matchup that they get
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: it done. Both of these teams deserve to be five
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: and six, so that's why they're gonna meet in the middle.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Neither of these teams deserves to have a winning record
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: right now.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, I too have Atlanta in this one, but
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: my score is only twenty four to twenty two. I
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: want to talk about Jesse Bates. I pretty much just
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: wanted to use Jesse Bates in this offseason acquisition that
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: has really paid dividends to talk about how the defense
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: has changed this season. They brought in Ryan Nielsen, who
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: came from or Saints right, and he knows the type
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: of thing in the type of principles that the Saints
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: offense will try to run, especially now know Michael Thomas,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: so some changes and that gives you a big leg up,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: especially with the guy who has shown, like Jesse Bates
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: has year in and year out, that he can really
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: handle a lot of different looks. He's really versatile, he's
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: really smart. Great pickup for them, and it's a great
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: opportunity here to help his defensive coordinator Avenges old team.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: The revenge game is an opportunity there I'm glad that
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: you guys both pick the Falcons because it helps confirm
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: my priors because I don't know what to do with
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons or the Saints. I did take the
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Falcons here twenty three to twenty one, basically because they're
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: at home.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I think there are those out there. Here's one thing
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I do feel confident about.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Who think Alvin Kamara might have less than forty receiving yards,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: a number that he's hitting three of the last four games.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I almost took the Saints here. I don't know Derek Carsback.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Does that move me that they asked Alvin Kamara what
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: it means to them. He's like, well, he's our starting quarterback.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: So I guess it'd Beaves some point after that rousing endorsement.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I just feel good about Alvin Kamara getting the receiver.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: But we're all on the Atlanta Falcons, and.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Were you gonna pick them? If Javis Winston was starting
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: the Saints or the Falcons.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I think I would have Wow, that is I think
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I would have Saints.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: And by the way, Saints fans, you're getting memed alert
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: as a one and a half point favorite against a
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: four and six team to paraphrase my friend Dave Danischick.
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: We didn't do this to you. You did this to you.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I think I thinks saying like it's sad. They're not
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: gonna be upset with us. They're like, yeah, okay, considering
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: the circumstances.
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: Sure well.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: We followed this soft for quick Picks presented by Zillo,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: the Bucks and the Colts.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield versus.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Gardner Minshew, a titanic matchup of quarterback and greg Where.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Does that take you?
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: It's gonna take me in the end to Tampa Baker Mayfield.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: I'm taking them to win twenty six to twenty three.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: I don't know why this game more than any all season.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: I flipped my picks throughout the week about seven different times.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: I'm landing on Tampa. Go with my gut, partly because
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: a Ya Yaddyabi in the show.
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: That's the main reason I'm picking him. Ever since I
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: brought up yah Yad Yabe.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: A whole seven days ago, he went off and had
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: like another couple sacks, and Elijah Cantsey there also playing
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: really well over the last four or five weeks. So
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: yah Yah Elijah, it's all happening for Tampa. I find
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: this game extremely difficult to pick. There's a lot of
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: injuries for Tampa, but I'm leaning Bucks, all.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Right, just Greg there for Greg and taking the Tampa
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers, the Patriots and the Giants. Bill Belichick has
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: it named the starting quarterback? Is that fact that trick
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: up his sleeve enough to get the Patriots to win Cyntheia, Yes,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: it is.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: At one point when seventeen to sixteen is what my
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: model forecasts. Why because of the reliable run game for
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: the Patriots, he might not have started named a starting quarterback.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: But we know Ramondri stevensism is there, and we also
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: know that Ezekiel Ellick can punch it in should he
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: be asked to along the goal line as well. So
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: it's not to say that I don't care which quarterback.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: It's not to say that it doesn't matter. But the
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, we're not going to tell you this means
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: that I think this one's personal. You know, the Giants
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: are not necessarily a thing that he likes to go
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: up against. There's some pretty important games that they've had
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: in this history of this Ravalie. So Bill Bealschek gets
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: it done.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I think considering that I don't think it's Bailey's appy here, Greg, No.
• 22:20
  Speaker 7: It's definitely. I think it's Definitie mac Jones. He kind
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: of hinted at it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, you'd think again, right, And the Giants are
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: so annoying that they can even beat the Patriots by
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: losing here, even though I picked the Patriots as a
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: Patriots fan, I want him to lose.
• 22:32
  Speaker 7: I want one of those quarterbacks in the draft.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Let's go The fact that mac Jones would be starting
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: this game, which we all think he should be, kind
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: of highlights the absurdity of the end game situation in Germany.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Sorry, Greg.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the Panthers and Titans in Nashville, a
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: rookie quarterback battle between Bryce Young and Will Levis, And
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I actually prefer the Panthers here winning their first role
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: eighteen to seventeen, because it's gonna happen at some point.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I think the Carolina Panthers have shown promise, there's been
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: some crucial turnovers from Bryce Young, but over on the
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: other side, it's kind of an opposite situation for Will Levis,
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: who came in throwing bombs, having a whole bunch of success,
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: and things have slowed down a little bit and a zero.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Evro's Panthers defense has been fairly solid, but I do
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: think in a low scoring game, perhaps Bryce and.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: Adam another thing that would be bad. Though for Patrick
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: the Titans, it's almost it's past Thanksgiving. They have not
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: lost the game yet at Nissan Stadium. They're unbeatable there
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: three enough.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yes, because that is exactly how stats work.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: They can't.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Numbers do not line sometimes. Coming up, we're going to
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: the Desert for an NFC West showdown. Can Matthew Stafford
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: keep the Rams postseason hopes alive versus those frisky Cardinals
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: with Kyler back? Our picks coming up next, we got
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: the Rams and the Cardinals in the Desert. Kiren Williams
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: and Cooper Cup both expected to play for LA.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Does that lead to a win for them, Cynthia.
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: It does for me. Twenty three to twenty one is
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: what I project in this matchup. I want to talk
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: about Matthew Stafford in what a difference he actually makes.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: We talked about Kyler Murray coming back, and now how
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: big of an important factor that was for the Cardinals.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford for this Rams team, this guy has been
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: just so underrated. We don't talk about him among them
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: since that Super Bowl year. We don't really see they're
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: talking about. Hey, this guy is so good. The deep
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: pass is always available. He puts it outside the numbers
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: better than any other quarterback, and that's a hard thing
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: to do, especially with the likes of Josh Allens and
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: the Patrick Mahomes of the world. But when you're watching
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: the reliability of him, especially down deep, that makes an
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: explosive play a thread at any point. And while I've
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: seen some good things from the Arizona defense, I haven't
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: seen enough good things to overcome the things that Matthew
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Stafford can do.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Stafford in this matchup, especially with Cooper
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: cup play, and I have the Rams winning twenty four
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: to twenty two. Cynthia and I on the same page again,
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: we're threading the needle, which shows we're not entirely confident
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: in the Rams, but we're going to take him in
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: a matchup that Sean McVay has done great, partly because
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: he runs the ball and Kyron Williams is back for
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: this matchup, and the last time these two teams played,
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: Kyraen Williams went for over one hundred and fifty yards
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: in a game. He actually got hurt and it kept
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: him out for more than a month since. But their
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: rushing attack just makes a lot more sense when Kyra
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: and Williams is back there, just very solid and steady,
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: and when you're running the ball well last week with
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: Royce Freeman, you know you can run it even better
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: with Kira and Williams. So I think they're returning to
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: that Rams balanced attack. He got Stafford going deep when
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: you need to, and you got an ability to run
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: the ball. But again, just form lately, the Cardinals are
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: trending up. I'm not sure the Rams are. Nothing would
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: have surprise me in this game.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I gotta admit, shame on you guys for a two
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: point win. I got a three point win. I'm super
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: confident in the Rams. And it's not just the fact
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: that Cooper Cup and Kiraen Williams will be back. Hopefully
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: they'll be back and healthy. But if they are, if
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: they aren't able to go, let's just celebrate again the
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: rookie and Puka Nakua and the things that he's doing here.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, Cup goes down, Pooka starts making plays,
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: he's making plays with him in the offense, just running
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: through number seventeen, and it's it's not even the point
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: of a surprise anymore. The defenses are playing a ton
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: of attention to Pooka and he's still getting it done.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: So shout out to Poka Nakua, who I think will
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: be a huge factor as the Rams get a.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Three point win because I believe Elis, I believe in
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: your Rams.
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: I mean he's does an impact too.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Pooka Nakua At the Lakers game the other night, they
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: show him on the big screen. The crowd goes crazy
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: as they celebrity pokin Ay. He looks like a member
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: of One Direction. Now he's getting treated like what I'm saying,
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: all right.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Shout out to one direction. We're going it's a throwback.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at some player props for this
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: NFC West shoulder.
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: Like boy band. Do I know I'm an old person?
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: No, you're young at heart. That's why we're looking back
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: to one Direction.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Kyler Murray at to sixty one and a half, Matthew
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Stafford in one and a half passing touchdowns, James Connor
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: and Kyra Williams right around sixty four rushing yards at
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Cooper Cup, the number sitting at seventy and a half
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: or receiving yards. Speak of some player props, Let's go
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: ahead and take a look at some more of them,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: starting with the Bills and the Eagles, big matchup we
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: already heard.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Greg believes in the Buffalo Bills will Jalen.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Hurts have more or less than two hundred and eighty
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: two total yards passing in russiankambu.
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm wearing the green number one, so you know
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I'm going more. I think the Eagles lose this game,
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: but I think it's gonna be a score fest. I
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: don't really trust this Bill's defense on a down to
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: down basis. I absolutely trust Jalen Hurts and the way
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: he is playing right now. There's injuries in the Bills secondary.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: I really believe that the route to winning this game
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: for Buffalo is thirty five thirty one, a score like that,
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: and so that means plenty of fantasy points, plenty of
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: yards for Jalen Hurts. And Patrick is right. You know
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Aj Brown often eight yard performance is going to.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Get his all right, So I'm more there.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Despite the fact that Greg has the Bill's winning this
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: game for the first time all year, Cynthia the Bills
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: to lose, so more or less than one and a
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: half passing touchdowns for Josh Allen.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: This one says it's going down. I think that's a
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: fun one. I don't know if I usually get this
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: head so more. I think it's going down, but actually
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: up we're number one. Yeah, yeah, get it. I don't
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: even really know. I don't know what is going down.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: And he's like, it's going to happen. More than one
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: point five passing touchdowns is going to happen. This is
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: a team that really relies on the pass as much
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: as they'd like to get to the run. It is
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: even short passes to running backs that makes a big difference.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: And by the way, those count for receiving touchdowns, Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: They count touchdowns are good. Aj Brown just had eight
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: yards receiving last week against the Chiefs. The number for
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: him is eighty two and a half. He only had
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: eight yards last week.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: But what oh, I like, hey, now, I think we're
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: going way way.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Over that particular number, especially consider it. Just look at
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: the streak that aj Brown had of all those one
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: hundred and forty yard receiving games, even if you go
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: back and watch the Monday night game, there was a
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: ball that hands and then there was another opportunity where
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: he thought he had a touchdown. Jalen couldn't see him
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: because he's just throwing the route. Those two were talking
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: about it on the sideline. I just think the number
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: goes way up there. Let's move to the Jags and
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the Texans again, a matchup for first place in the
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: AFC South. Will Trevor Lawrence Gritton have more or less
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: than one and a half passing counts?
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: See, we're not using any less today. Let's throw it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: That was a great one. We're going more Trevor Lawrence.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I have them losing this game again, but again I
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: think it's gonna be a high scoring game.
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: They threw the ball well. A week ago.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: We talked about on the show how they've been throwing
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  Speaker 5: the ball so short all season.
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  Speaker 7: And Zay Jones.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: I know he didn't have a big game last week,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: but his presence allowed them to free up what Calvin
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: Ridley does move him and the average depth of target
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: and the play action usage was all way way up
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: for the Jaguars. So again, maybe I'm just rooting for
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: great games because We had some blowouts over Thanksgiving in
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: Black Friday, but I think this is a score fest
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  Speaker 5: and I think Lawrence gets those two touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you on that one. I think that especially
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  Speaker 4: because there are some questions at the linebacker level for
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  Speaker 4: the Texans, so that would leave a nice hole open
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  Speaker 4: for whichever one of the pass catches they decide. They
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: like play roulette and they figure out, like which one
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: that's you today?
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  Speaker 7: Up?
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  Speaker 4: See you today. It's not good for fantasy, it's good
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  Speaker 4: for their team though.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, feeling better about my Jacks pick then, so I
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: think we'll CEJ Shroud pass for more or less than
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  Speaker 3: two hundred and seventy two yards.
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  Speaker 4: I'm also going wooh, that was not good. No no
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  Speaker 4: lower today? Sorry, ilmist hit someone back there? Going higher
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  Speaker 4: in this one for CJ. Stroud. This is another team
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  Speaker 4: that really leverages the pass really well. Obviously, we saw
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Devin Singletary get started last week, and I do think
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: he'll be impactful in this matchup. But see just Droud
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  Speaker 4: likes to throw the ball and he actually throws it
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  Speaker 4: with really great precision. They've got a lot of trust
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  Speaker 4: among that receiving corps, and I don't think they're going
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: to stop do what.
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  Speaker 7: Got you here?
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  Speaker 5: So I'm really curious how the Jags defense plays in
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: this game, like, what's the real Jags defense. For the
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: most part, they've beat up on poor competition, but struggled
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  Speaker 5: against the Texans first time round, really struggled against the
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: forty nine ers two weeks ago. So their pass rush
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: hasn't been consistent enough. Josh Allen is great, but this
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Texan Zoo line since they got healthy, has been one
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  Speaker 5: of the better groups.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of a double edged situation because if you
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: watch them against the forty nine ers and now they're
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: going with Demiko and Bobby Slowick. Of course, you could
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: look at it and say, well, they've got experience against
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: these guys that are kind of operating the same system.
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  Speaker 2: Or you could say that the Niners.
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: Ran all Now that makes me feel better about my text.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well we.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Got one more and again the segment is called more
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: or less, and so that implies that there are two options.
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  Speaker 2: There aren't two options.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Traves etn rushing for sixty seven and a half rushing yards.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going with more, well all more today on game debut,
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  Speaker 3: I think looking back, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, Christmas.
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  Speaker 7: Also, we're going back for.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: These guys are fun allowing each other to score touchdowns.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I think there are more points available for the Jags.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: And again, it's not the Niners. I recognize it's Tomko
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  Speaker 3: and Bobby Slowk and we're looking a team that's played
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: very well.
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  Speaker 2: This is not the San Francisco.
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  Speaker 4: Forty nine more that was a bad one for me.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: Still, the come Patrick Mahomes receivers out a case that
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: the drop seas on Monday. Will Casey rebound Sunday against
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: the rival Raiders?
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Our picks for that one coming up next? Oh, it's
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: so for pizza. Pizza.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Pregame predictions delivered by Little Caesars Big Time rivalry Games
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  Speaker 3: Sunday in Vegas the Chiefs and Raiders. Casey coming off
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: of the loss Monday Night to the Eagles, do they
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  Speaker 3: come back and take it out on Vegas?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, oh, yes they do, because what the Raiders
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: haven't done in this matchup it is just win baby,
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: It's it's thirty one sixteen.
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  Speaker 7: It's Chiefs winning this game in a wash.
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: I think there were a lot of positives to come
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: out of that game, including the running game in terms
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: of how the Chiefs dominated Philadelphia on Monday night. When
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: you were pushing around the Philadelphia Eagles up front on
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: both sides of the ball, especially in the running game
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: against that Philly d line, I came way thinking, Wow,
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of really strong ingredients for this team
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  Speaker 5: to go win a Super Bowl once again. Great line play,
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, a strong running game that is
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: a recipe to not only win the AFC West, but
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: to keep winning in the playoffs, even though the receivers
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: have been letting him down. Pachecko just runs so hard,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: and I think the Raiders are going to do everything
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: they can to sell out to prevent Patrick Mahomes from
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: having a big day, and Pacheco ends up being the.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: Guy who beats it.
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  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 4: I have Kansas City winning, but only eight points. Twenty
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: six to eighteen is my final score. I want to
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: point out something really good about the Raiders defense. I
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: haven't said much nice about the Ravens defense or Raiders defense,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: and I'm going to start right here. They're able to
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: be good copycats. What do I mean? They look at
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: what happened to Miami and where the Bills were able
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: to beat Miami and they just copycatt it. They did
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: kind of all of these things where you're like, let's
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: keep it really simple, but let's just like look what
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: those other guys, let's cheat off their test, right Like,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: let's just see and get the answers right here so
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: that we can go back to letting Max Crosby just
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: absolutely gash you with the pressure and getting to it.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: I'm not look, I have an eight point win. I'm
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: not suggesting that it's going to change the outcome of
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: the game, but I will say it's a nice uptick.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: They've got a lot of things there that are nice
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: pieces and foundations for whatever happens going forward. So a nice,
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: a good thing. Vod Evince, yeahkats.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: One problem with that foundation.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Max Crosby is doubtful for this game on Sunday, and
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: so I think I had the Chiefs winning anyway.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Twenty four to nineteen.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: You go back, the Raiders had lost five consecutive games
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: against Kansas City, and twenty twenty they went in there
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: and drove around after the game and a bus and celebration.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: They beat the Chiefs, and.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Since then they've lost five more games consecutively against Kansas City.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: And I think a big part of the offense this
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: time around is gonna be Cadarius Tony. He got these
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: four touches against the Eagles, and you're of course thanking
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: him back to his incredible punt return that he had
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl. He runs into his own offensive line,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: and that's part of the reason that that play didn't
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: necessarily work. But considering the way that the season started
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: and Kadarius Tony was dropping balls and people were wondering
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: what's going to happen, Well, the rest of the receiving
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: corps had that game on Monday night, and I think
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: there's going to be more opportunities for nineteen to make
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: some plays for Kansas City.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Let's move on take a look at some of the
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: lowest over unders of the week.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Leading away is that Titanic matchup between the Patriots and
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: the Giants over under of thirty four, but also featured
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: on that board just a point and a half different.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: The Steelers and Bengals, expected to be one of the
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: lowest scoring games of the week. Jake Browning is starting
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: for Cincy with Burrow out for the remainder of the season.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Who wins this win?
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Cynthia Well this one gets won by Pittsburgh nineteen to seventeen.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: But I want to talk about Jake Browning and what
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: you're going to see from him. That looked a little
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: bit different from Joe Burrow, and namely, it's running, scrambling, rushing,
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: making second chance that chances happened with his legs. He
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: had plus twelve rushing yards overexpected last game, so that's
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: actually more than actually Joe Burrow has all season long
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: if you add together all of his games. So I'm
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: looking at Jake Browning and they're probably going to leverage
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: his legs a little bit more. While I don't think
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: that'll change the outcome of this matchup, I do think
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: it's something to watch going forward. And if you're really
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: desperate in fantasy, look for his tight end. That's who
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: he seems to look for, Tanner Hudson.
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I had a really hard time picking this game.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: I too, went with the only score possible for this game.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: It's nineteen to seventeen Steelers, and it's ultimately because the
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: group I don't trust in this game, surprisingly is the
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: Bengals defense. They have given up more explosive plays this
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: season than any team in the NFL.
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: How is that possible? Now?
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: The whole point of their defense was supposed to be
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: preventing explosive plays.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: And then I look at the injury report.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: T Higgins is a big loss for them at wide receiver,
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: but maybe just as big as Cam Taylor.
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: Britt is out at cornerback.
• 37:00
  Speaker 5: He has been their best player in the secondary by
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: far this year, a true number one cornerback. They're struggling
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: at safety, They're struggling at the other cornerback positions. This
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: should be the week that the Steelers get something going
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: in the passing game.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: And they did make the change at offensive coordator, much
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: to the celebration of a lot of Pittsburgh Steelers fans,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: considering that again, nineteen seventeen is the only school it
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: would be avent double alert to pick as we've all
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: got the same exact score. And I'm not even looking
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: at the offense. I'm not looking at the Pittsburgh Steelers defense.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the Pittsburgh Steelers special teams. Chris Boss
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Wow banging kicks through Remember the pre Pitts Bosswall.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Era and Pittsburgh.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Most Steelers fans don't want to if he is gonna
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: have to be dealing with the terms of the starting
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: field position, which hasn't been great for the Pittsburgh Steelers
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: opponents nineteen seventeen.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: Guys, so are you saying Presley Harvin is like a
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: Husky former Husky?
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: No, what's talk about?
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Jack Crowning? I love Huskies in my family, huge, huge
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: party fans out here, shut out to Gorey are coming up.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: We got really bold predictions, very very bold predictions. In fact,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: get a pin. We're gonna want to write this down
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: when we come back here. You are Tom for write
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: this down. As we get to some predictions for Week twelve, Greg,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: fire up.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: I could choose so many different ways that the Ravens
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: will make you proud on Sunday. One of them will
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: be scoring more than twenty six and a half points.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: I could also give you the Ravens winning by more
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: than three points. But let's go with the offense because
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: this running attack is one of the best in the league,
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: maybe the best, one of the best that we've seen
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: in a long time.
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: They have extra rest coming into this game. That always helps.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: They're going against the Chargers defense that really helps, and
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: I just love this offense to maybe go over forty,
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: So forget twenty six and a half.
• 38:47
  Speaker 7: Let's just keep racking it up over there across the sidewaky.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Forty points for the Chargers. I'm gonna have seven points. Well,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: I guess six points for Adam Feln, who I think
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: scores a touchdown against the Tennessee Titans secondary. It is
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: a very leaky secondary. They're much better at stopping the
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: run and they are stopping the past. So I'm looking
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: Adam Feelin and there you go. Patrick, that's a nice
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: little nugget for yours, because didn't you pick Yeah, I
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: picked the Carrolin Panthers.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Again, it's a lot of stray bumd.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: I'm going with like all old heads today, as many
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: old heads as possible.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: As somebody who's fortieth birthday is coming up very soon.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: I appreciate all the old folks as well.
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: You're a young one on this show.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: It's awe or six five days for everybody.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Speaking of numbers, Montes Sweat will have at least a
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: half a sack against the Vikings on Monday Night. Josh
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Dobbs holds onto the ball trying to make plays. I
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: think Montes Sweat gets in there and gets over eight Sacks.
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: So tell us the truth. Tell us the truth.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Well, the commander's got rid of Jack del Rio and
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: and so I think a former Jack do reel player
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: is going to have.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: An exactly exactly it's looks like a Jack del Rio
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: revenge game.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: My brain my proxy, Yeah, kind of, even though he's not. No,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: I think it's perfect. Well, I think it is involved
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: in my head.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: Thanks for being involved with us and watching game Debut
• 39:59
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.
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