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Spartan · I Hate Talking

• 0:29
  I Hate Talking: Welcome to episode 28 of I Hate Talking.
• 0:33
  I Hate Talking: Hi everyone.
• 0:34
  I Hate Talking: So what are we talking about today?
• 0:37
  I Hate Talking: I don't have no idea.
• 0:40
  I Hate Talking: I don't have any idea either.
• 0:41
  I Hate Talking: Today's word or phrase of the episode is the word Spartan.
• 0:47
  I Hate Talking: Nice, like the movie or like the competition?
• 0:52
  I Hate Talking: So it is a movie, uh, it is a competition, obstacle course racing, uh, it also can be just related to Sparta in ancient Greece, so of relating to that particular region.
• 1:11
  I Hate Talking: It can also mean as an adjective, showing the indifference to comfort or luxury traditionally associated with ancient Sparta.
• 1:21
  I Hate Talking: So you're not going to Necessarily be fulfilling your life's desires or pleasures, but you are going to be in some form or fashion indifferent to receiving comfort and uh probably has some relationship to stoicism and things of that nature.
• 1:39
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so those are some things that may come to mind when you hear the word Spartan.
• 1:44
  I Hate Talking: Awesome.
• 1:44
  I Hate Talking: I didn't realize that about the meaning of being indifferent to luxuries.
• 1:49
  I Hate Talking: What was it again?
• 1:50
  I Hate Talking: What did it say?
• 1:51
  I Hate Talking: Showing the indifference to comfort or luxury.
• 1:55
  I Hate Talking: So, can you actually use that in sentences then?
• 1:58
  I Hate Talking: Because like, I am not.
• 2:00
  I Hate Talking: A Spartan, cause I do like luxury and comfort.
• 2:05
  I Hate Talking: I am not indifferent to it.
• 2:07
  I Hate Talking: Right, and I think that's the key is that it's not that like stoicism or maybe uh some other things where you are actually rejecting comfort.
• 2:18
  I Hate Talking: Spartan is just simply indifferent to comfort or luxury.
• 2:22
  I Hate Talking: So if you have comfort or luxury, that's OK, but that if you don't have comfort or luxury, that's OK too.
• 2:29
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so let's see if we can find an example in a sentence or if I can think of something.
• 2:35
  I Hate Talking: In a way to use it in a sentence in terms of that uh particular definition.
• 2:40
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, because when I heard it in phrases like on TV, the phrase like I am Spartan comes to mind.
• 2:47
  I Hate Talking: And maybe I'm mistaken in that origin of it, but when I think of that, I think of like victorious, like strong and like, no one's gonna stop me.
• 2:56
  I Hate Talking: But that would be very different from that, meaning you were just read.
• 3:00
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, and that also is part of the definition that is available here on the dictionary.com.
• 3:10
  I Hate Talking: Uh, the previous dictionary definition that I was reading was the Oxford Dictionary that we've been referencing a lot in previous episodes, but according to dictionary.com, which I don't really trust dictionary.com all that much, but it does at least, uh, give some definitions of words that are in the modern lexicon.
• 3:30
  I Hate Talking: In perhaps ways people use them, um, maybe not as precisely as the Oxford Dictionary would have them, uh, but it does say.
• 3:38
  I Hate Talking: I'm getting an ad on dictionary.com, so there you go, pay the bills.
• 3:44
  I Hate Talking: Uh, it says that it's suggestive of the ancient Spartans sternly disciplined.
• 3:48
  I Hate Talking: Rigorously simple, frugal or austere, brave, undaunted, so some of that, uh, type of connotation with victorious that you're describing.
• 3:57
  I Hate Talking: So, moving on to the Cambridge dictionary, it does have a definition uh that is simple.
• 4:07
  I Hate Talking: And severe with no comfort.
• 4:09
  I Hate Talking: Uh, they do use it in an example sentence that says, quote, they lead a Spartan life with very few comforts and no luxuries.
• 4:20
  I Hate Talking: Mm, OK.
• 4:21
  I Hate Talking: So the reason that we're talking about Spartan is because many of us in our family have just taken part in a Spartan race, uh, which is that obstacle course racing series, uh, that was, uh, created, uh, I guess probably a few decades ago at this point, um, where there are obstacles and off-road racing, uh, that you're doing.
• 4:50
  I Hate Talking: On foot, uh, so sort of that type of running race known as a Spartan race.
• 4:57
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, it was really fun.
• 4:59
  I Hate Talking: I was the cheerleader and making sure that everybody was in their spots because we had multiple different times.
• 5:06
  I Hate Talking: Um, of starting times.
• 5:10
  I Hate Talking: So, um, I was just hanging back with everyone in our family that wasn't, but it was so fun watching y'all, the kids and I got to watch you do quite a few of the really difficult challenges, and that was great.
• 5:23
  I Hate Talking: I had a friend, uh, asked me about it afterwards, and I was telling her about it, how many miles you ran and obstacles, and because at first she's like, this is really fun.
• 5:33
  I Hate Talking: I should do this with you next year.
• 5:34
  I Hate Talking: And I told her about it and she's like, oh, actually, never mind, because it is intense.
• 5:39
  I Hate Talking: It is not a um luxury and it's not easy at all.
• 5:44
  I Hate Talking: So I'm really proud of you for doing it.
• 5:46
  I Hate Talking: Indeed, and it has, uh, changed over the last few years that I've done them.
• 5:52
  I Hate Talking: There have been some years that it was easier or harder.
• 5:55
  I Hate Talking: Uh, this particular year, it actually was on the harder side, a more difficult side for whatever reason, and I did not really expect it to be harder because it was a dry course.
• 6:07
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so, you know, these races are typically held rain or shine, obviously, if there's any super severe weather, uh, lightning or tornadoes or.
• 6:16
  I Hate Talking: Uh, whatnot, they will, uh, suspend racing, uh, but if it's just raining or if the course is wet, uh, that will proceed as planned.
• 6:25
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so typically when it's a dry course, you'll have a faster time, uh, but that was, uh, still quite challenging, and that was the outlook from many of the people that I saw on social media afterwards and that I heard, uh, talking about it at the actual venue that it was quite a difficult, uh, course this year.
• 6:45
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I'm not trying to exaggerate.
• 6:47
  I Hate Talking: Today is 20 degrees cooler than it was on that day, just a couple days ago.
• 6:54
  I Hate Talking: So, it was excessively hot.
• 6:57
  I Hate Talking: And so I felt like that was what I was constantly doing was having everyone drink water and stuff cause it was so hot and it was just draining everyone, I feel like.
• 7:06
  I Hate Talking: Yes, it certainly was hot and it was actually a spike in temperature too.
• 7:12
  I Hate Talking: So not only is it cooler today, but it was also cooler leading up to this particular event.
• 7:17
  I Hate Talking: So perhaps, uh, people were used to the cooler weather, including myself, and this particular hot day made it especially challenging.
• 7:26
  I Hate Talking: One of them we were talking about the obstacles.
• 7:30
  I Hate Talking: So you had your race first, and then a group of our children had their race, and then the next group had theirs.
• 7:38
  I Hate Talking: The kids are based on age groups.
• 7:40
  I Hate Talking: Obviously, the older kids would have more mileage to run and more obstacles to do, and then the younger kids have less.
• 7:48
  I Hate Talking: When we were waiting for their races to start, we kind of found a shaded spot, which was super helpful because it was so hot.
• 7:55
  I Hate Talking: And the kids were drawing and drinking water, and it was a perfect spot because we got to watch you go underneath the barbed wire.
• 8:05
  I Hate Talking: And so that was really exciting to cheer you on.
• 8:08
  I Hate Talking: And then the spot we had right beside it, that was a little bit later on in obstacles, but you kind of loop around and go back.
• 8:17
  I Hate Talking: So we got to see this next obstacle too.
• 8:19
  I Hate Talking: And I was terrified watching you.
• 8:21
  I Hate Talking: It's called the slick wall.
• 8:23
  I Hate Talking: And it's, you want to explain what it is?
• 8:26
  I Hate Talking: Yep, so the slip wall actually is the actual name of the particular obstacle in this case, but yes, it's, uh, typically it's immediately after some sort of water obstacle.
• 8:40
  I Hate Talking: I don't think I've ever seen it where it's not been after a water obstacle, uh, since that's sort of the point on how it is made to be slippery.
• 8:48
  I Hate Talking: AKA the slip wall.
• 8:50
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so it's immediately after rolling mud and dunk wall.
• 8:53
  I Hate Talking: So where you're actually submerging yourself underwater to go underneath the wall.
• 8:58
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so you're completely soaking wet and then you have to climb this 45, I think maybe even a little bit steeper, maybe 50 or 55 degree angle metal wall using a rope and pulling yourself up, uh, this wall that's probably I'd say probably 20 ft tall from ground to the, the angled tip of the particular obstacle.
• 9:22
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, first, we got to see you, like I said, when you right when you were about to do that.
• 9:28
  I Hate Talking: So you called to us, we came over to the side and cheered you on, and I went to kiss you, and then I was like, oh wait, you're really gross looking because you just were, yeah, you just came out of the water and we're just mud and so I just gave you a high five.
• 9:43
  I Hate Talking: Sorry about that.
• 9:44
  I Hate Talking: Yep, and I just did some offline research, I guess it is the Adrenaline of the race, it's nowhere near 20 ft tall.
• 9:51
  I Hate Talking: It's actually only 8 ft tall, but it seems a lot bigger when you're right there doing it.
• 9:56
  I Hate Talking: Right.
• 9:57
  I Hate Talking: Well, yes, and in your defense, what I was saying earlier that I was terrified watching you do it with our kids standing there cheering you on.
• 10:06
  I Hate Talking: They were so proud and I'm glad we got to watch you do it.
• 10:10
  I Hate Talking: The entire time I was praying though, because while we were there earlier, waiting for you to come around.
• 10:16
  I Hate Talking: We saw lots of people, quite a few people fall, and it wasn't like easy falls.
• 10:22
  I Hate Talking: I mean, it wasn't like medics were needed, but they were hitting their heads.
• 10:27
  I Hate Talking: They were really getting the wind knocked out of them.
• 10:30
  I Hate Talking: So I was just praying that you'd be safe and that our kids would not see you get majorly injured.
• 10:36
  I Hate Talking: Indeed, and this just goes to show you that you can't believe everything you hear on a podcast, nor except the very first AI overview result on Google, cause I actually did a little bit more research and according to the official Spartan race subreddit, It is 15 ft tall at the from the tip to the ground.
• 10:59
  I Hate Talking: OK, so what, 21, 8, now we're at 15.
• 11:03
  I Hate Talking: 15, we're going with 15 as the final number.
• 11:06
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 11:07
  I Hate Talking: No more research on it.
• 11:08
  I Hate Talking: Take our word for it, 15 ft.
• 11:10
  I Hate Talking: There you go.
• 11:10
  I Hate Talking: And then I guess you were also quite surprised at how quickly I arrived from the barbed wire crawl to the lip and finish line.
• 11:21
  I Hate Talking: Right, yeah.
• 11:21
  I Hate Talking: So like I said, where we were stationed, how it was set up every year, it's different.
• 11:26
  I Hate Talking: Every race is different, I guess.
• 11:28
  I Hate Talking: But this year, how they had it set up, we watched you and we knew you'd loop around and come back.
• 11:35
  I Hate Talking: And that was like the second to last obstacle before the finish line.
• 11:39
  I Hate Talking: Seeing how much longer you had, I expected not to see you for another half hour or so.
• 11:44
  I Hate Talking: And that's why I said, I'm glad you called to us because we would have missed you.
• 11:48
  I Hate Talking: I was not watching.
• 11:49
  I Hate Talking: And so I was really like, wow, that's amazing.
• 11:52
  I Hate Talking: Like, he made crazy time.
• 11:53
  I Hate Talking: How in the world did you run that many miles in like 15 minutes?
• 11:58
  I Hate Talking: So I had to, I was encouraging, like, praising you, like, wow, that's amazing.
• 12:02
  I Hate Talking: And then you'd let me know what happened.
• 12:04
  I Hate Talking: Yep, so this was actually my 13th Spartan race that I've done, uh, my very first one being back in 2016 and have done a number over, obviously the past uh few years, uh, and some years doing two or three, and this was my very first DNF did not finish.
• 12:28
  I Hate Talking: Hm.
• 12:28
  I Hate Talking: And that is because I went from the barbed wire crawl immediately to the spear throw and cut off the dog leg that did contain some additional distance and some additional obstacles.
• 12:39
  I Hate Talking: And the reason for that was so that I could make it to the start of the kids race.
• 12:45
  I Hate Talking: Decided to accept that loss and, uh, have my very first DNF out of my.
• 12:52
  I Hate Talking: 13 races, so 12 out of 13 completed.
• 12:56
  I Hate Talking: And uh this was the very first one that I did not finish, but I think, uh, had good reason to do so.
• 13:04
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, I'm so thankful for that and so proud of you, because you could have done it.
• 13:10
  I Hate Talking: The reason you didn't finish also was we knew that it was cutting it close on how long it would take you usually to complete a race.
• 13:19
  I Hate Talking: But it was the only time slots for you to sign up and the kids.
• 13:25
  I Hate Talking: So we knew it'd be cutting it close.
• 13:27
  I Hate Talking: And then there was a whole bunch of just obstacles, or I don't know if it's a pun or not, but like, things that made it difficult, like the parking lot took over an hour to get into, which is not normal.
• 13:40
  I Hate Talking: Then you had a really long wait to get into the facility.
• 13:44
  I Hate Talking: So you started late because um of the setup of I guess the influx of people, right?
• 13:50
  I Hate Talking: Everyone showing up at the same time.
• 13:52
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, exactly.
• 13:53
  I Hate Talking: To your point, that does not usually happen, but this was a actually very busy event, so I'm not sure if they were doing, uh, extra advertising or whatever the case may be that, uh, resulted in so many people signing up.
• 14:06
  I Hate Talking: Uh, that also was harder to get a earlier time slot, as you mentioned, so I was starting later than normal in order to have enough time to finish my race and have some, uh, buffer time before the kids race.
• 14:19
  I Hate Talking: And then on top of that, yes, all the, uh, traffic and registration as well as just uh flow of traffic on the racecourse itself.
• 14:27
  I Hate Talking: Uh, typically that is not an issue, but for whatever reason there is just a, a lot of people there and I think, uh, just became exacerbated by the fact that people are running late and then there were different wave sizes and I just messed up the flow from there, uh, that, uh, caused a lot of those delays as well.
• 14:44
  I Hate Talking: Right, so you ended up having to start late.
• 14:46
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, you would not have had time to finish the race before our older kids, but they loved racing with you.
• 14:54
  I Hate Talking: Like, I think it's a bummer you did not get the medal.
• 14:57
  I Hate Talking: So I understand that's kind of a disappointment and sadness for you possibly, but the kids knew you showed up.
• 15:05
  I Hate Talking: And more importantly than getting your 13th medal is showing that the kids matter and having those memories, they're going to remember forever that their dad raised with them.
• 15:17
  I Hate Talking: That is true and uh.
• 15:20
  I Hate Talking: To be fair, I don't think I do it explicitly for the meal or the accomplishment of necessarily finishing an entire course, but just for the experience itself and overcoming some of these obstacles and having a challenge that, uh, in some form or fashion keeps me relatively fit, uh, so that I can be in spartan shape at all times, uh, and be prepared for overcoming these type of physical.
• 15:49
  I Hate Talking: Challenges and uh things of that nature.
• 15:53
  I Hate Talking: So is it fun for you or is it?
• 15:56
  I Hate Talking: To say you can do it.
• 15:59
  I Hate Talking: It's to make sure that I stay in such a shape that I can do it.
• 16:05
  I Hate Talking: So not necessarily.
• 16:06
  I Hate Talking: The knowledge that I can do it, but the actual ability that I can do it.
• 16:11
  I Hate Talking: As well as to some degree, yes, the accomplishment of it and, uh, there's actually quite a bit of camaraderie within the Spartan community as well.
• 16:22
  I Hate Talking: So it's not just purely competitive in nature where racers are racing against each other, but within the open heats, especially.
• 16:31
  I Hate Talking: There's a lot of camaraderie in terms of people helping one another, so it is have a sense of community as well.
• 16:37
  I Hate Talking: It is really cool to watch people helping each other up to do obstacles or cheering each other on, and I do love that, that it's, they're not looking at you guys each other as competitors, but everyone is wanting each other to finish and do well.
• 16:54
  I Hate Talking: Exactly.
• 16:56
  I Hate Talking: And I also was a bit unprepared for this particular race because just the previous year they had removed all burpees as penalties.
• 17:09
  I Hate Talking: So, uh, in the olden days and from, uh, when I started racing in 2016, the penalty for a failed obstacle was 30 burpees.
• 17:22
  I Hate Talking: So.
• 17:23
  I Hate Talking: If you were unable to complete whatever the particular obstacle was, uh, monkey bars or a rope climb or things of that nature, then you were required to do 30 burpees.
• 17:37
  I Hate Talking: And last year, and they started phasing this out a little bit over the last few years.
• 17:43
  I Hate Talking: Uh, but last year was the very first race that they had 0 burpees.
• 17:47
  I Hate Talking: So essentially what would happen is that if you failed an obstacle, you would be required to run a small penalty loop.
• 17:55
  I Hate Talking: So it was not necessarily a lot of extra physical exertion.
• 17:59
  I Hate Talking: It was just more running, and that is what I expected to encounter this year as well.
• 18:05
  I Hate Talking: So I knew that there were going to be obstacles that I would most likely fail just because Of, uh, just not being able to do some of those things and I was prepared to run the penalty loop, but they actually have brought back burpees this year.
• 18:19
  I Hate Talking: Oh no, really?
• 18:20
  I Hate Talking: I didn't even know that.
• 18:21
  I Hate Talking: And I'm actually very happy about that fact.
• 18:25
  I Hate Talking: Um, I think that the penalty loops were perhaps a bit more measurable and consistent in terms of it being like a competitive sport, um, but again, that's not necessarily the reason that I'm doing it.
• 18:40
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so actually having the burpees, uh, added some additional things to consider and try to attempt the obstacles a bit more with intent to actually achieve doing the obstacle and, uh, rather than doing those burpees.
• 18:54
  I Hate Talking: -- So I'm very happy that the burpees are back -- actually.
• 18:57
  I Hate Talking: Awesome.
• 18:58
  I Hate Talking: So it is 30 burpees.
• 19:00
  I Hate Talking: Is that the same?
• 19:01
  I Hate Talking: 30 burpees is the requirement.
• 19:04
  I Hate Talking: I think they did have a few obstacles.
• 19:08
  I Hate Talking: I think these are typically the ones that are most often failed, uh, that did have penalty loops, so it was a mix of penalty loops and burpees this year.
• 19:17
  I Hate Talking: However, they actually had burpee zones, uh, at all the obstacles.
• 19:22
  I Hate Talking: So in the event that you could not complete the obstacle for some of them they did have the penalty loop, but you still had the option to do burpees if you wanted to.
• 19:30
  I Hate Talking: So that was interesting as well.
• 19:31
  I Hate Talking: OK, that's cool.
• 19:33
  I Hate Talking: And then a really cool thing, um.
• 19:37
  I Hate Talking: This year for the first time was our older boys.
• 19:41
  I Hate Talking: We're able to help our younger boys, and that was really fun.
• 19:46
  I Hate Talking: I mean, they ended up.
• 19:47
  I Hate Talking: Doing theirs and then the little boys also.
• 19:51
  I Hate Talking: That just was so sweet to watch them, help them through the mud or help them um with the spear throw and things like that.
• 19:59
  I Hate Talking: It was really cool cause I know that they meant, it meant so much to them that you ran with them and you did run with all of them.
• 20:06
  I Hate Talking: So, you ran your race, most of it.
• 20:10
  I Hate Talking: And then you ran the big boys, and then you ran the little boys as well.
• 20:18
  I Hate Talking: Exactly.
• 20:19
  I Hate Talking: And at least two of the races there were shoe failures, so I don't even know if you knew all these stories, but for you, for me and for the little kids as well.
• 20:31
  I Hate Talking: So the on the uh little kids race they had their version of Rolling mud where they'll go through.
• 20:38
  I Hate Talking: Uh, some muddy water or just some mud in general, uh, as they're going up and down some embankments and the two little ones lost both of their shoes in that first round of rolling mud, uh, because the, uh, the mud got sticky and they sank down into the mud and, uh.
• 21:00
  I Hate Talking: Withdrew their feet from the mud without their shoes on.
• 21:03
  I Hate Talking: -- Oh -- no.
• 21:04
  I Hate Talking: So did you have to go dig out their shoes?
• 21:06
  I Hate Talking: So I did.
• 21:07
  I Hate Talking: So to your point, the older boys did help them, uh, and they kept going without their shoes.
• 21:13
  I Hate Talking: -- Oh -- no, they ran without shoes.
• 21:15
  I Hate Talking: Well, I climbed down into the mud pit and retrieved their shoes.
• 21:19
  I Hate Talking: And it actually was quite sticky and, uh, I almost lost a shoe as well and actually found it easier to take my foot out of my shoe and then dig my shoe out.
• 21:30
  I Hate Talking: So that, uh, happened and was able to retrieve all the shoes and, uh, get the kids to put their shoes back on, but they had already advanced a little way up the course.
• 21:41
  I Hate Talking: So, um, that, uh, was taken care of, but, uh, they were able to, to finish the course with all their shoes intact.
• 21:50
  I Hate Talking: And then my shoe problem was interesting.
• 21:53
  I Hate Talking: Probably about halfway through, I felt a rock rubbing against, uh, the left side of my heel and, uh, kept going for a little bit, but decided at some point that this was going to become a problem and would have to take care of this and get the rock out.
• 22:07
  I Hate Talking: So I removed my shoe, figured that I would just grab the rock out of the shoe and throw it away and then put my shoe back on and move on with the course.
• 22:17
  I Hate Talking: But what I actually found when I took my shoe off, the rock had been in between the outer wall of the shoe and the lining.
• 22:25
  I Hate Talking: Hmm.
• 22:25
  I Hate Talking: Oh no, I know what you mean because you can't get it out easily, right?
• 22:30
  I Hate Talking: No, it was very difficult to get out.
• 22:31
  I Hate Talking: So I figured that it was maybe had gotten in there from like maybe where some stitching had gotten.
• 22:37
  I Hate Talking: Loose or whatever the case may be.
• 22:39
  I Hate Talking: So I did reach in and was able to actually work around some of the lining, and the rock was even inside the lining of the lining.
• 22:47
  I Hate Talking: So I have no idea how it got there.
• 22:49
  I Hate Talking: Uh, it probably was from a previous race, uh, because these have been the shoes that I've worn for the last few races, and what I had to do is actually rip the stitching and the insulation and, uh, to remove this rock.
• 23:03
  I Hate Talking: Should have probably held onto the rock cause it probably was maybe even from a different state that I had done a course perhaps, uh, but I just, uh, tossed it to the side and I resumed racing.
• 23:15
  I Hate Talking: Are your shoes OK?
• 23:16
  I Hate Talking: Do you have to get new racing shoes now?
• 23:19
  I Hate Talking: They are probably on their last legs, uh, probably have maybe another race in them, but, uh, that would probably be about it, I think.
• 23:28
  I Hate Talking: So also watching a bunch of different competitors.
• 23:33
  I Hate Talking: It's really cool, like we're talking about the comaderie and all, um, a lot of people like sometimes you'll see like people in Uniforms or costumes.
• 23:44
  I Hate Talking: Do you ever see people run shoeless?
• 23:47
  I Hate Talking: I feel like that would be really challenging, but a good Obstacle to do.
• 23:51
  I Hate Talking: Uh, I have seen people run shoeless because they have lost their shoes in the mud.
• 23:57
  I Hate Talking: Those have been in some of the Rainier courses where it actually is muddy and they might have lost a shoe along the way somewhere.
• 24:03
  I Hate Talking: So I have seen that that was, uh, they were running shoeless, not by choice, but just out of necessity.
• 24:09
  I Hate Talking: I have seen people wear like those socks or whatever that are like the barefoot socks that still give some protection to your feet but are.
• 24:18
  I Hate Talking: Um, not quite the, the same as a full shoe.
• 24:22
  I Hate Talking: And I do not believe I've seen anybody run like barefoot, barefoot, um, as a particular thing, uh, that they did by choice.
• 24:31
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 24:33
  I Hate Talking: Man, I hate shoes.
• 24:35
  I Hate Talking: I would probably rather run barefoot.
• 24:38
  I Hate Talking: Another cool thing that I didn't see this year, did you see the team that helps the individual in the wheelchair?
• 24:44
  I Hate Talking: Did not see that this year.
• 24:46
  I Hate Talking: Um, it is possible that they were racing on the other day of the weekend.
• 24:51
  I Hate Talking: Um, there's also a lot of different teams based in Uh, the area that we were visiting, uh, that were affected by Hurricane Helene, so that may have also played a part in, uh, some of these particular teams' abilities to, uh, get to the venue and, and actually do the race.
• 25:10
  I Hate Talking: Uh, so that may have had something to do with it.
• 25:12
  I Hate Talking: But yes, to your point, there are often veterans or just people that have particular physical disabilities or, uh, challenges that, uh, will race with the team and.
• 25:24
  I Hate Talking: Uh, be in a wheelchair or need some sort of assistance from the rest of their team members in order to do these obstacles.
• 25:31
  I Hate Talking: Um, so I've seen them, you know, lift up these people over eight-foot walls and.
• 25:37
  I Hate Talking: Um, you know, through, uh, various obstacles so that they can, uh, complete the challenge as well.
• 25:43
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, it's really amazing.
• 25:44
  I Hate Talking: I've seen them, yeah, lift them and their wheelchairs even and all, or however they need help through these things.
• 25:51
  I Hate Talking: And I think it's beautiful and it's also an awesome challenge because God forbid if there were ever any major problems, and you do have to get out, especially even like with Hurricane Helene, that just happened, and everything, sometimes you do have to physically carry people or help people.
• 26:11
  I Hate Talking: And so showing that they're there to support everyone and their friends, even if they physically can't do it themselves, they're there to help them and we'll take care of them.
• 26:23
  I Hate Talking: Exactly, and I think that is somewhat of the same thing that I have in mind in just terms of physical preparedness, uh, as well as camaraderie, right, both of those things in mind as critical things for preparedness as well.
• 26:39
  I Hate Talking: But yeah, I am so impressed that you're able to do that and that you want to do it.
• 26:45
  I Hate Talking: I feel very safe around you because then you can help me through all that if we ever need to.
• 26:51
  I Hate Talking: But again, I think overall from the weekend, I'm most proud of you for stepping back and saying, I want to do this, but I know my children.
• 27:03
  I Hate Talking: Want me And being willing to put, I don't know what, how would you say?
• 27:09
  I Hate Talking: It's not ego, cause it's not like you had an ego, but like reevaluating your goals and saying, I want to complete the challenge.
• 27:15
  I Hate Talking: But I also want to be with my children.
• 27:19
  I Hate Talking: Precisely.
• 27:21
  I Hate Talking: So, and hopefully, Mr.
• 27:23
  I Hate Talking: Joe Deenna will understand, uh, that is the creator of Spartan race.
• 27:28
  I Hate Talking: Uh, I think perhaps he would.
• 27:31
  I Hate Talking: I think he has kids as well.
• 27:32
  I Hate Talking: So perhaps, uh, -- he would be understanding to that -- fact.
• 27:35
  I Hate Talking: Right.
• 27:36
  I Hate Talking: And you didn't even get your medal.
• 27:37
  I Hate Talking: You didn't.
• 27:38
  I Hate Talking: I don't think they gave it.
• 27:40
  I Hate Talking: Did you get a banana or anything?
• 27:42
  I Hate Talking: I know the little kids did.
• 27:43
  I Hate Talking: I saw you eating theirs.
• 27:44
  I Hate Talking: So did you not even get any of that then, right?
• 27:46
  I Hate Talking: So I did get all that stuff at the end of the course, uh, typically there will be that, uh, rolling mud and dunk wall, slip wall, and then a fire jump, and then the finish line.
• 27:57
  I Hate Talking: Uh, I was offered a medal because to their perspective, I had just finished the race, uh, which I had declined, uh, and then they offered it again and I declined again.
• 28:08
  I Hate Talking: uh, but I did get the t-shirt and the, uh, Refueling, uh, stuff, so the drink and the banana and all that at the end as well.
• 28:16
  I Hate Talking: OK.
• 28:17
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, so, that's awesome, and I think It's amazing to watch y'all and it's so exciting and it's just so cool afterwards.
• 28:27
  I Hate Talking: To hear your stories or the kids' stories and just seeing on your faces that relief of like, I did this.
• 28:36
  I Hate Talking: And so I liked asking everyone, like, what was the most challenging obstacle and what was the funnest obstacle?
• 28:42
  I Hate Talking: They all admitted, all the boys said the mud was the most challenging, and then they all had different most fun obstacles.
• 28:52
  I Hate Talking: Exactly, so we'll put a link to Spartan Race in the description along with uh maybe some descriptions of the various obstacles if you're interested in learning more.
• 29:02
  I Hate Talking: And uh if you are interested in hearing even more detailed experiences about particular race experiences uh from either this race or even previous races, let us know in the comments or send us an email or a text message and don't forget to like or subscribe.
• 29:19
  I Hate Talking: To this particular podcast.
• 29:22
  I Hate Talking: Yeah, sounds great.
• 29:23
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