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Dream into Reality · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: And Charlottagne, the guy my dad asked up. The breakfast
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  Speaker 1: club is R. I'm not kay yookay, I love coming here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm never not gonna come here. You guys are good
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  Speaker 1: to me and lieutenam. I was gonna good deal for
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people in hip hop generation. The breakfast
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  Speaker 1: club is where people get the information on the topics,
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  Speaker 1: on the artists and everything like that. In that aspect,
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  Speaker 1: radio is still important. The breakfast club for my name,
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  Speaker 1: come up respected, Good morning Usa yo yo yo yo
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  Speaker 1: yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Angeline is
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  Speaker 1: out out because we out. But she's out out. We
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  Speaker 1: ain't really here. This is um a recording. You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's Martin Luther King JUNR. Then he had a dream
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  Speaker 1: that we stay our ass homes this morning on his day.
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  Speaker 1: That is right, So I know, y'all macka y'all Like damn,
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  Speaker 1: y'all just took three weeks off for the holiday, but
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  Speaker 1: now y'all on a vacation again. I'm just doing what
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  Speaker 1: the Good Lord says we should do and corporate America
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  Speaker 1: using our holiday day banks are closed, so we close.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. But today, so if you missed it, Barack Obama,
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  Speaker 1: if you didn't see that interview or little hear that interview,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get that back on for you this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Barack Obama actually is the epitome of what Martin Luther
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  Speaker 1: King Junior's dream would have been. Correct. Martin Luther King
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  Speaker 1: Junior wanted us to live in a society where people
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  Speaker 1: would judged by the content of their character, not the
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  Speaker 1: color of their skin. We're still not there yet, but
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  Speaker 1: in fact, we have a black president, you know by
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  Speaker 1: racial president who definitely presents his black We had that.
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  Speaker 1: That's the epitome in Martin VI. King Junior's dream, correct,
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  Speaker 1: And now we got a black Oh my god, we
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  Speaker 1: gotta play Kamala Harris this morning too. Oh yeah. We've
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  Speaker 1: interviewed Kamala Harris three times, right, interviewed or way before
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  Speaker 1: she even ran for president. And now she is the
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  Speaker 1: Madam Vice president, She's the MVP. So wild. Those are
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  Speaker 1: two people who are the epitome of what doctor Martin
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  Speaker 1: lat Street Jor was talking about in his dream. So
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  Speaker 1: that's right. So this morning, we're gonna get on our
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  Speaker 1: interview with Kamala Harris. Which one, Now we had three,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what my honestly, my favorite one
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  Speaker 1: was not the second one was the one that went
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  Speaker 1: super viral with you know, she talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the two pocket everybody trying to take it out of contact.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite one was the first one when she came
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  Speaker 1: when she wasn't even running for president, when she was
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  Speaker 1: just sendative of California. That was my favorite one. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get that one on. And what's your favorite
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  Speaker 1: Barack Obama interview? The one we did in November or
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  Speaker 1: whatever do whatever month that was of last year, the
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  Speaker 1: one and the only one we did. So we'll get
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  Speaker 1: both those on this morning. So stay with us this morning.
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  Speaker 1: The Happy morning, Look the King day is the breakfast
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  Speaker 1: club com wake up, wake up, your time to get
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  Speaker 1: it off your chest? Was her man Or Blass. We
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  Speaker 1: want to hear from you on a breakfast club. Hello
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  Speaker 1: this Jeremy, Hey, Jeremy, get it off his chess? Hey?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on? Eddy? Charlomne Yo? This is crazy because
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  Speaker 1: I never get through um. I just want to shout out,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm Biden and Kamalason winning. I want to
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  Speaker 1: shout out my roommate Eddie, and I just want to
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  Speaker 1: tell everyone to have a nice day. Um And I
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  Speaker 1: got your book, Charlomaine. I got the audio version of
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  Speaker 1: Black Privilege, and then I have than copying the other
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  Speaker 1: one man, um and I hope you guys all have
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  Speaker 1: a nice step. You shout after your roommate Eddie too.
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  Speaker 1: Man Oh, he's gonna love that. Yall in college together?
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  Speaker 1: Nah we um were I'm twenty eight, he's twenty nine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an accountant. He's an anti salesman. Okay, okay, got
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  Speaker 1: his roommates. Roommate rocket place, not feel love, bro, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just asking questions. That's all he was trying to. He
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  Speaker 1: would trying to buck us. That's the reason why you
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  Speaker 1: shot scenario and I was asking questions. I was just
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  Speaker 1: asking question Spicy, I got shot out to Eddie. Damn Sam,
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  Speaker 1: I say, what was happening? All right? Bro? He never
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  Speaker 1: wants to get through again. I know right. This guy
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  Speaker 1: got fantasies over there, y'all love Hello? Who's this chell? Hey? Rochelle,
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  Speaker 1: get it off your chest. I just want to shut
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  Speaker 1: up my amazing. Boy. His name is his name, Rochelle,
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  Speaker 1: name Toddy Todd. Good morning. That was nice to you, Rochelle.
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  Speaker 1: What did he do that? What did he do yesterday
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  Speaker 1: that made you feel that way? I'm gonna shot him
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  Speaker 1: out in the morning on the reader. He had to
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  Speaker 1: do something well. Every day. He always makes sure that
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  Speaker 1: I have breakfast and you make sure I have lunch.
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  Speaker 1: We worked together, see a long way. I'm telling you, man,
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  Speaker 1: either Ruth all my brothers give you a woman some
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  Speaker 1: pop tarts in the morning, some lunch of boots for
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  Speaker 1: lunch and it'll go a long way. What are you
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  Speaker 1: gonna What are you gonna do for him? To show
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  Speaker 1: how thankful you are? On pocket? Every morning? Coffee, yeah, amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Every morning he gets a fresh cup of coffee. Amazing.
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  Speaker 1: See it's the little things, man, Shut up. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah. She appreciates it. He appreciates it. They
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  Speaker 1: love each other. Oh, yes, of course, all right, well
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  Speaker 1: you have a good morning. Hello. Who's this? You know?
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  Speaker 1: What's way? South Carolina staff crew? To get it off
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  Speaker 1: your chest. I just came around to take whatever dollar,
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  Speaker 1: man I want to blesh. I I wanted going to
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  Speaker 1: quit my freestyle repeat the best time with y'all. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's where your brother from South Carolina always shut this down.
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  Speaker 1: But go ahead, the head brother, go ahead. I liked
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  Speaker 1: it the same way. Sometimes I feel like I would
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  Speaker 1: go up to the same day trying to make a
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  Speaker 1: giving man. I'm trying to make it out. I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that my favorite brew so we stitch
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  Speaker 1: and that. So every day I whustle, y'all, I play
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  Speaker 1: the guard Daly watching me in the streets, and somebody
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  Speaker 1: would try to play man watch everybody. So I keep
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  Speaker 1: you gotta down. You gotta slow that down, my South
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  Speaker 1: Carolina bredren, you're going too fast, like what you're gonna?
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Wrapping like your life depends on it. Him, drum,
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  Speaker 1: that's disrespectful. Dry I was, drum, drum, that's disrespectful. Don't
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  Speaker 1: hang up on my South Carolina back. It is all
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  Speaker 1: him now, no Envies back and it's all him. Wow
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  Speaker 1: damn he was like Envies back and it's all him. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Goodn't damn Jesus Christ, Hello, who's this? Hey? How's it going? Then?
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  Speaker 1: Though the warring? Yes, sir, I was going. I got
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  Speaker 1: a quick question for Charlot Man man, Yes, sir, I
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  Speaker 1: ask you a question. I don't know if somebody ever
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  Speaker 1: asked you this, but who's your top three donkeys of
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  Speaker 1: all the time? And when you're considered consider giving donkey
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  Speaker 1: a donkey holiday? Oh yeah, I mean at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the year we do a top five donkeys of
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  Speaker 1: the year. I don't I'm gonna be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: Top donkeys of all time? Donald Trump is definitely in
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  Speaker 1: the top three. I mean I've given it to him
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  Speaker 1: more than anybody. And I'm gonna always put myself in
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  Speaker 1: the top three because I always say, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: you give people the credit, you gotta give everybody to
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  Speaker 1: credit they deserve for being stupid, including yourself. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know who the third one would be, though, sounds first.
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  Speaker 1: Sound y'all want to clue Brown from the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll go get it off your chests eight
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  Speaker 1: hundred five eight five one on five one. If you
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  Speaker 1: need to vent, hit us up now. It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, the Breakfast Club. It is your time to
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  Speaker 1: get it off your chests, whether you're mad or blast.
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  Speaker 1: So you better have the same in We want to
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  Speaker 1: hear from you on the Breakfast club. Hello, who's this?
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  Speaker 1: What's up? Broke? Get it off your chests? Yeah? What
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  Speaker 1: I had to get out on my chests. Man. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people like see, I'm back
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  Speaker 1: waiting for the government to do things in stet up.
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  Speaker 1: Realize what we can do ourselves, Like I ain't had
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  Speaker 1: nothing a couple of years ago, provot the pandemic doingandic
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  Speaker 1: it won't really an issue with me. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: started driving trucks for a company. They bought a truck
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  Speaker 1: off of Facebook. I'm own an operator. I'm did fourteen
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  Speaker 1: dollars in a week. It's so much so people can
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  Speaker 1: do out here, you know better they stelf because I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to break a generational curse. Wealth families are growing
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  Speaker 1: up in and apartments that are owned and homes because
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  Speaker 1: the phone broke up. But I agree with him, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean, we definitely should push
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  Speaker 1: our government and push our you know, national and local
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  Speaker 1: government to do things for us. But we definitely got
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  Speaker 1: to do for ourselves too. Word to the Honorable Alijah Muhammad,
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  Speaker 1: what he said. What he said is also right. I
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of people want to be rappers. They
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  Speaker 1: want to be uh DJs. They want to be producers,
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  Speaker 1: they want to be athletes, they want to get only fans.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of other businesses that people can do,
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  Speaker 1: and driving trucks is a major business. They make a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money. So really really look into it, because
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  Speaker 1: you think about it, one thing that didn't stop on
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  Speaker 1: that road was those trucks. Whether they were delivering food,
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  Speaker 1: whether they were delivering toilet paper and paper towels. Those
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  Speaker 1: roads stay full with those trucks. So people still had
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  Speaker 1: those jobs with them trucks. Yeah, and that's why I
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  Speaker 1: always tell brothers, man, you go out there and learn
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  Speaker 1: a trade, you know what I mean, Because there's certain
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  Speaker 1: things that just never ever ever gonna stop. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: always need an electrician, You're gonna always need a plumber,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And those people, those brothers
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  Speaker 1: make good money. Let's since just make good money. Absolutely. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: what was this? You know? What's up? Envious? Mellow? How
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  Speaker 1: y'all feelings? Mellow was popping? What's going on? Y'all? Mellow?
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  Speaker 1: Your phone is travel phone. It's gabbage. Your phone has
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  Speaker 1: been garbage for at least seven of the ten years
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  Speaker 1: that we've been here on the breakfast club. Hello, Gabbage,
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  Speaker 1: good morning, good morning, just happening, king. It was good,
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  Speaker 1: It was good. I was going to take a gratulations
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  Speaker 1: to you guys. Ten years Sean came here. Thank you brother.
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  Speaker 1: One of my favorite moments was the Ray J call Classic.
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  Speaker 1: That was a classic call. Yeah, before our Heart Radio,
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  Speaker 1: you get to get an app on our phall just
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  Speaker 1: be able to hear you. Gott You're a liar. You're
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  Speaker 1: a liar. You've always been a liar. You've always been
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  Speaker 1: iHeart Radio, sir. I guess he means that app. Day
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  Speaker 1: one we had the IR radio app. First day on
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  Speaker 1: the air, Yes, first day on the air, we had
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  Speaker 1: the iHeart Radio app. You're a liar, you always be
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  Speaker 1: a liar. Wasn't a free Yes it was. I's always
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  Speaker 1: been free. It's always been three three Now tell you
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  Speaker 1: it was a phone. Only a black person will tell
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  Speaker 1: you what's going on in your house. I'm telling you
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  Speaker 1: I know what goes on in your house. From day one.
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  Speaker 1: The iHeartRadio app has been free from day one. When
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  Speaker 1: we started December six, twenty ten, we had the iHeartRadio app. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: who's this Mike Mike Man? What up getting Mike Man?
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  Speaker 1: I was, Uh, you don't really many many you waited
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  Speaker 1: five years to tell us that. No, I waited five
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  Speaker 1: years to y'all. Man, I've been calling about five years.
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  Speaker 1: Great man, So what are you gonna say? Nine man
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  Speaker 1: to shut out the boys of our bus pool? Freedom? Man,
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  Speaker 1: we on our weird words ever better ain't even matter.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm happy to be alive. There you go, King,
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here. I appreciate it. Man, get
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  Speaker 1: it off your chest. Eight undren five eight five one
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  Speaker 1: oh five one. If you need to vent hit us
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  Speaker 1: up now. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast
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  Speaker 1: Club back. You're checking out the world's most as morning
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  Speaker 1: show Morning. Everybody's DJ Envy and julu Ye Charlemagne the guy.
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  Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
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  Speaker 1: on the line. He was frozen for a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: so he said, let me go buy the indoor pool
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  Speaker 1: where he has better service. Ladies and gentlemen. Jo the
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  Speaker 1: Lucas my guy, what's up? I feel like you late
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  Speaker 1: this year? Man, You're don't dropped ADHD and evolution and
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  Speaker 1: you just popping up on us. Oh man, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm late. I stopped doing interviews and stuff a long
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  Speaker 1: time ago. I don't like. I didn't like the way
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  Speaker 1: they twist the narrative and twist the words and try to,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like manipulate the situation and
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  Speaker 1: then put clickbait and all that weird stuff. Man, it
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  Speaker 1: was just weird Rodgers. I didn't like it. And I
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  Speaker 1: just I felt like, Uh, the last interviews I had,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: I was actually with Atlantic and it's and it started
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: feeling like they were more favors than than people actually
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  Speaker 1: really wanted to interview me. Because once I sat down
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: with them, you know, it's like they didn't really do
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: their research and then you know what I'm saying, like
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  Speaker 1: they were just asking super questions and it was just
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  Speaker 1: like bro, like come on. And then and then actually
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  Speaker 1: Hot nine seven who had told me in the interview
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  Speaker 1: that Atlantic or whoever reached out to them to do
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: to give me the interview, and I didn't like that.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, you're making you making you feel like,
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you don't want me here,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: but yo, chasing for interview? Yeah, I feel like that.
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  Speaker 1: Like that, I didn't like that. So I was just like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm straight, I'm straight with interviews bro, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to feel like I'm here because me to call so
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't like that put. You put so much
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  Speaker 1: into your music and your videos and the whole concepts,
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  Speaker 1: So I can see why you would feel that way.
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  Speaker 1: You should actually do something where you interview yourself. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: you could be the journalist and then you can show
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  Speaker 1: people how it's done in the song. Is that why
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  Speaker 1: you left Atlantic? Is that the reason why you decided
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  Speaker 1: to lead a major? Nah? I left Atlantic because it
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  Speaker 1: just didn't feel I didn't feel like I was on pausible.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't feel like they knew what to do with
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  Speaker 1: a Joining Lucas, I don't think your ideas are easily
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  Speaker 1: explainable to like these culturally coolest people at these record labels, though,
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  Speaker 1: Like you're the type of person that you just gotta
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  Speaker 1: show them. You gotta trust you gotta trust him what
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  Speaker 1: he does. Absolutely just joining Lucas feel like he's underrated.
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  Speaker 1: You drop two projects this year, two great projects, Evolution
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  Speaker 1: and ADHD, And I don't feel like your name is
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  Speaker 1: in the conversation the way it should be. So I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I'm underrated. Um, yes, no, I if I
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  Speaker 1: am underrated, and it's my fault. Why why do you
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  Speaker 1: say that? It just means I'm my working hard and
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  Speaker 1: I need to work. I gotta figure out another plan
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  Speaker 1: on how to be more visible. That's all it is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame anybody for that by myself, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think somebody decides like this guy is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be underrated, and then now everybody's like he's underrated. I
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  Speaker 1: just think that that has to do with the artist.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I think the art at
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  Speaker 1: you as an artist is there, the art that you
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: put out, whether it's your videos and the songs and
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  Speaker 1: the music and the album. So I think it's there.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily believe it's you though. Nah. But again,
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  Speaker 1: like it's it's it's all about what's working, you see.
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  Speaker 1: My I have like a certain type of lane, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with my storytelling stuff like whatever whatever, Like the highest
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  Speaker 1: streaming artist right now or a young a young artist,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, their records aren't really storytelling, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It just it's all swagged out, it's all,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for whatever the case is. So the visibility
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  Speaker 1: on them is a little bit different because of it,
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  Speaker 1: because they they attract like the young kids. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the fifteen sixty and seventeen year old
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  Speaker 1: that's not really my thing, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like I haven't really even tapped into that market yet,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I just have to figure out what
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  Speaker 1: it is that I have to be doing better, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Also at the same time, like
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  Speaker 1: everybody's all in cahos with each other, like these records
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  Speaker 1: these can't they all do records with each other? I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't done records with anybody really like that, except
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  Speaker 1: for like the ghost Man. You got will Man, Nobody Eminem,
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  Speaker 1: I got Rick Ross on the album on Legend, on
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  Speaker 1: on Evolution. Let's talk about it with the game. The game,
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  Speaker 1: the game did the record? You man them kids join them,
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. The visibility, Like I don't have
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  Speaker 1: records with NBA. I don't even got records with Kodak.
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  Speaker 1: I don't do you need them? Know? I would like
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: to see you with like Grisel, do you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Roy? That's the That's what I'm saying, is no.
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  Speaker 1: But that's what I'm saying, Like I feel like maybe
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  Speaker 1: I keep putting myself in this box where like you
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  Speaker 1: just expect that and I don't like that. Like Griselda,
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  Speaker 1: I love Griselda, but I love Roy's. Those are my family.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm just just relating a lyrical box like nah, bro,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's not where I want to be. Like I
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  Speaker 1: feel like I have the kids. I could absolutely make
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  Speaker 1: mainstream records. I could do and still be Joiner. I can.
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  Speaker 1: I can jump on MBA Young Boys and be Joining
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  Speaker 1: Lucas and kill it and still fit in with the news.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: I haven't tapped into that yet. That's something I haven't
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: done yet, Right, I've just been kind of doing me,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: and I've been very successful at doing me, So I'm
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: not really tripping about the overrated thing. I'm rich. I've done.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: I've done everything that I got out of the hood.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm retired, my mom. You know what I'm saying.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I don't ballhouses like I'm good, like I'm That's what
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: we wanted, right, That's that's what all we got more
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: with joining Lucas. When we come back, it's the breakfast club, Bore,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the breakfast Club jointing. Everybody's DJ Envy Angela Ye, Charlomagne,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: the guy. We all to Breakfast Club was still kicking it.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Woul join the Lucas Ye, yes joining. And I did
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: want to ask you about the song like a River,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that's the last song on the album. It's about your father.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: How therapeutic wasn't for you and what was your state
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: of mind while you were writing that song. Yeah, it
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: was very It was very therapeutic because I held a
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: lot of this energy and you know, for such a
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: long time that situation specifically, it is just a really
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: really volatile, you know, situation that I can't I can't
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: figure it out. I can't talk about it in depth
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of what actually happened. But if I told you what happened,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: it would be quiet. Everybody would be quiet, and you
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: would just be like, damn, it's a really situation. But
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: it's something that it lives with me because because to
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: this day, I still see things that make that it's
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: still you know, it's still it just doesn't make any sense.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: It's like why would right? But I think that me
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: creating this record it really helped. It helps me heal
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: because now that I know I'm like keeping you know,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: everything away, you know, from the world. I like to
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: expressed myself for my music, you know, So if the fame,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: amongst a lot of other things really cost me that
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: relationship and as some relationship that would never be repaired
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: ever again, no matter what, can never be repaired. And
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: not only did I lose that, but I also lost
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: everybody else on that side, your whole father's side of
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the family, everybody that knew about what the situation was,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and everybody that continued that had to continue to have
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a relationship with him Dad to go wow, and it's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's honestly what it feels like you
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: put your family, an entire family, on one plane and
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the whole plane just crashed. Everybody, everybody. So I reached
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: out to you when this kind of but but not
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: really and they have and I've attempted to try to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and it's just it's one of those things where it's
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: like for me, it's like once when when when we're
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: talking about certain right, like there's some things that are forgivable.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: There's some things that you can like Okay, this is
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: just another but then there's like certain things that's just
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: like nah, like bro, there's a line like when it
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: comes to this, it's you got to pick a side.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I can't with you knowing that you feel with him,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: that's just what it is. And if you feel with him,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna care you. Mom. You're his brother, your sister,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you're his daughters. If you feel with him, knowing this,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: that's it, period. And it costs me again, and you know,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: due to that, and I understand it. I get it,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you know, and the she's son, that she's brother and whatever,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: cool have that relationship. It is what it is. Get
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: lead me to alone. But that's that's definitely a part
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: of my life. That is a very dark place for
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: me because again, it's that crash. It's that plane crash.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: You know, body died, and it's just like now, it's
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: just I had to create my own world, you know
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: what I mean, and completely leave that side behind and
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: completely pick up the pieces and just and continue to go.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: But it is difficult. It is very difficult thing to
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: do because you still don't understand it, you know what
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I mean. But it's like you got to do it,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: and it definitely had my mental health up for a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: little bit. Have you spoke to your therapist about it?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I don't have one. You gotta get one. Brother. I
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: don't know a million percent. I agree with you, I
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: a billion percent. I agree with you, and I want
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: to and I and I will and I am I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: just have it yet, and I definitely I definitely need one.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. Add that to your rupper too.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Are going into twenty twenty one, and again everything everything
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: happened so fast for me, bro everything changed completely quick.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: So I definitely need like therapy to deal with a
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: lot of this sh that I've dealt with and you know,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of my new responsibilities and like my new
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: life that I have now, it's definitely and complete, ob Yeah,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Because you know, therapy helped me to deal with a
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: lot of issues I was having with my pops, you
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, A lot of things that I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: hadn't had conversations with him about, a lot of things
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I hadn't dealt with, you know, from from when I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: was when I was younger, and I was holding a
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: lot of resentment and a lot of of of anger
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: towards him, you know, but therapy helped me to really
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: process it. Because one thing you realize about your parents,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: especially your father, is he was a human being just
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: doing the best that he could, you know what I mean?
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: But he had his own demons and his own flaws
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and his own things that he was dealing with. So
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: it makes you have more empathy for him, for at
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: least for me join us. You know, damn, we appreciate
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you for joining in us. You've been up here for
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: an hour. Man, we appreciate you sharing all your stories
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: with interviews. Hopefully you come back and he's done, and
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: he's like, all right, we appreciate. We could stay all day.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I ain't got to do it. It's colder, I ain't
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: got no bags to chase. We could stay here all day.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: But guys, sorry that this whole COVID thing prohibited us
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: from the actually meeting in person again. And you know what,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting down and chopping it up. I brought you guys.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: You look rich. I haven't gonna lie to you. I'm
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: proud of you. Bro, you look rich. Say yeah, man,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I appreciate I appreciate it. I fully do. I really
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: appreciate guys, man for everything, y'all, Thank you, peace King. Alright,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: just join the Lucas. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning morning.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy Angela Yee, Charlomagne, the guy we
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club that when we come back, we're
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: gonna get on our interview with Barack Obama. President Barack Obama.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna get that on in a second. To
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: don't move happy, Martin Luther King Day. It's the Breakfast
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Local Morning, the Breakfast Club, Envy, Angela Ye and Charlomagne
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the God Morning. Everybody is DJ Envy and Jela Ye,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Charlemagne the Guy. We are to Breakfast Club. And that
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: is what we do every line. You were talking nice
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: and love. This is how we talk every day, and
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: it wasn't coming in high and now you are well,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: now we are. We have a special guest. He served
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: eight years as the forty fourth president of the United States.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, President Barack Obama. Never heard of him,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: never heard of him. You know what I heard of, y'all.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: And I appreciate you guys having me. It's wonderful to
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: see you again. Thank you for being in. Thank you.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And we don't have much time, so let's get right
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: into us A Promised Land. Why is that the title
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: for your book? When I think about America, I think
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: about both where we've been, where we might be going.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I'm reminded of Doctor King's speech, the famous speech he
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: gave shortly before he got shot about I might not
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: get there with you, but I've been at the mountain
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: top and I see the promised land, and I think
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that that idea that we're not where we need to be,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: but we still act the faith and the belief that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: we can get there. That's how I think about America.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: That's how I think about my own political journey. That's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: not one where it's ever gonna be finished. It's not
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: one where racism is gone or inequality is gone, but
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: what we can continually try to do better. That was
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the spirit that I wanted to communicate. You see in
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the preface that America's ideals have always been secondary to
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: conquest and subjugation, a racial cast system, and that to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: pretend otherwise is to be complicit in a game that
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: was rigged from the start. So my question is, if
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the game is rigged, and we know the fight is fixed,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: how could black people ever believe in this idea of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: America being a promised to land. That's one argument, and
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: that's how some people feel, and obviously there's evidence of that. Slavery.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Jim Crow, Native Americans being driven from their lands. On
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the other hand, what we also have stories of is
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: abolition and civil rights movement and folks fighting for their
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: freedom and generation passing on a legacy of struggle that
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: results in something a little bit better. What I try
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to do book as a whole is painting an honest
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: picture about how there's a gap between the myth of
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: America and the reality of America. Will never completely close
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: that gap, but if we put in the effort, if
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: we stay focused, reach out, then we can get closer
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: to the ideal. You know, one of the lessons I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: try to teach in the book about politics is it's
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: never going to be perfect. We live in a big
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: country with a lot of different points of view. We've
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: got hundreds of years of oppression and discrimination that have
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to be overcome. We've got, you know, the natural human
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: impulses that you see around the world, greed, power, you know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: folks trying to get over on others. But you also
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: see kindness, courage, folks looking out for each other, and
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of goodness along with the bad and and
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: in politics, the job is not to think that you're
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: ever going to eliminate all the bad. Its can can
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: you empower the good to make more kids get a
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: better education, to make sure that some folks have better healthcare,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to make sure that you know, there's less discrimination, and
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that the police are more accountable. And if you if
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you do that and you stick with it. Yeah, the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: distance that we've traveled, let's say, just in my lifetime,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: we were talking before we got on the air, I'm
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: fifty nine. I don't feel old. And in you know,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: human history, fifty nine years is a blink of the eye.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: None of us would have been sitting here fifty nine
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: years ago. We couldn't imagine, you know, you guys having
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: your own show that you control and that you produce.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: And I couldn't imagine being a former president and having
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: a best selling book that just wasn't in the cards.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: And that was just you know, in my life. And
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: so we can imagine if we keep working that maybe
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: our kids, certainly our grandkids, if we do it right,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: they're going to be that much more ahead of the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: game now. But you know, one thing that we always
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: have to remember is history doesn't just go forward, it
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: can go backwards too, and if we're not vigilant, things
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: can get worse. President Obama. I wanted to ask you
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: something about Rev. And Jeremiah Right from in your book,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: because you've addressed it, Michelle Obama has addressed it. Do
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you think that in today's climate, the comments and the
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: speeches that Jeremiah Right Gabe would still be looked at
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: the same way where you would have had to distance
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: it yourself him today. Yeah, you know, it's Look, it's
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: an interesting thing. As I write about in the book.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: You know, Reverend Wright as an example of somebody who
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: supremely gifted Preacher Trinity United Church of Christ on Sasas
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Chicago had amazing ministry still does. I was very close
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to a lot of people in that congregation as well
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: as Reverend Right. In national politics, if you can take
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: out a bunch of sound bites that say goddamn America,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: even if the context of it is prophetic and biblical,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and he's trying to describe, you know, how somebody might feel.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't promoting the notion that God was
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: damning America. He was making the point that if you
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: looked at slavery and discrimination, you could see the conclusion
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: of people feeling that there was not an alignment with
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Christian values and America. But if you'd see a two
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: minute SoundBite trying to explain that is too complicated. In
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: my campaign, I had to constantly manage the fact that
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: truths that black folks experience on a day to day
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: basis are not going to be the same as the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: truths that the country as a whole experience. But if
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: you want to operate at the highest level of politics,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you have to be able to communicate and translate for
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: the country as a whole. And there were times where
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I was surprised by the reaction of folks, generally white voters,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: to certain things that to me didn't seem like it
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: was something they should be surprised or upset about. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I suspect attitudes would probably be a little bit different now.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: And I give to give one example that I use
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: in the book, when Professor Skip Gates gets arrested in
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: his own house. I write about the fact that in
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a press conference, I'm asked about it and I said, well,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: you know, I think the police probably acted stupidly and
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: arresting you know, sixty year old professor who's got a
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: lame leg in his own house after he's shown them ideas.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Even if he cussed out the police. All they have
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: to do is just leave right, And that was treated
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: with all kinds of controversy, and my polling with white
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: voters dropped drastically because the notion is somehow I was
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: insulting the police. I think today, in light of everything
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: that's happened and part of what happened this summer terms
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: of raising awareness of potential bias in the criminal justice system,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I suspect that that would not have seemed as much
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: of a controversial statement as it was viewed at the time,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: even though at the time I didn't think it was
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: particularly controversial. You talk about that in a Good Fight chapter.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Henry Lewis gets the Gate situation, but you also say
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that wouldn't have happened to a white person in the
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: same situation. But at the same time you say, you
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: wish you had have said that then, but you didn't.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: So we bite our tongue in situations like that. Who
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: we trying to protect. One of the things that you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: that I try to communicate in this book is what's
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the best way to expand folks understanding? Right there? Where
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: do you see teachable moments? And there have been times where,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: for example, the tragedy in Charleston when Pickney and others
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: who are praying and invited a young white man into
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: pray with them. He then shoots them. He's obviously his
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: head's been filled up with racist ideology. That was a
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: teachable moment where I could say some things that I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: might not have said in another context. You know. And
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: part of what I also try to describe in the
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: book is the fact that the prophetic voice that you
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: have if you are a civil rights leader, if you're
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a Malcolm, if you're a Martin, is not going to
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: be the same voice as if you're a politician, Because politicians.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: The whole thing is, I've got to figure out how
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: do I get this white senator from this conservative state
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: to maybe support this built That's different from me teaching
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: as a civil rights leader or a movement leader, and
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: each show us have different roles to play in that process.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Now we have more with Barack Obama, President Barack Obama.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club, Good morning morning.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We're celebrating Luther King Day. We're
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: not here but we're getting on our interview with Barack Obama.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning. One thing I love
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: about the book, President Obama is you talk about your
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: relationship with your wife, and you talk about how your
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: wife is the boss and you're scared of them. You
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: also talk about how every decision has to be approved
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: by your wife. You Know. One thing that I love
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: about the book is everybody talks about relationships and sometimes
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: things seem perfect, but in your book you show that
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: things aren't perfect. You know, I've been married nineteen years.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: So when you talk about your wife and you talk
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: about how hard it was and how she didn't want
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you to run, how bad did it get in the household?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Did it ever get to the point where it was like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: you know what, maybe this is not going to work
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: for us? Or is that never an option when it
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: came to a relationship. So I think I think there
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: were times where certainly she thought this wasn't gonna work.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Michelle is somebody who has a different temperament than me,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and I think she'd admit that she has more of
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a temper than I does than I do. I think
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: she can get more pessimistic sometimes about things than I can.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I tend to be pretty even keeled. Yeah, we'll figure
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: this out kind of approach. But as I write about
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: in the book, sometimes that's that itself is frustrating to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: your partner. Right If you're all like, hey, honey, you know, relax,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: why are you getting so excited about stuff? You know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: then she'll be like, Oh, you're just not listening to
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: me at all, Right, And I know I listened to you.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm just saying, you know, it's not so bad. Well,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: what do you think I'm overreacting? Is that what you're saying? Right?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And then you you're in that pattern. So there's no
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: doubt that there were periods. There were episodes where she
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: was questioning whether the life that I had charted for
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: us was compatible with what she wanted out of life.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: You know, she, you know, Michelle once told me something
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: that I think summed it up pretty well. She said,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I have organized my life not to have a lot
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: of mess in my life, and politics, by definition, brings
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: mess into our household. You've got people that I would
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: never associate with otherwise who now suddenly are talking about
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: us or you know, have impact on our well being.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: And I don't. That's not what I want and I
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: understood that. And the sacrifice she made is one that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: you know, I've had to work off, you know, the
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: like I I've been. My debt has been it's almost
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: like a payday loan, you know, it just keeps on.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: The interest was high. How did y'all get over it?
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Was it therapy? Was it friends? Was it reverence? Was
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: it church? Was it prayer? When the terms were over? Well?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I think all of the above. Yeah. Michelle talked to
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: right writes about the fact that you know, we went
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: to counseling pre presidency, and that was when the kids
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: were small, and I think anybody who's had small kids,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: you know, that's always a strain. You know, as much
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: joy as they bring, there is that tension, especially if
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: both uh spouses are working right, um and during the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: White House. Look, I give a lot of credit to
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: my mother in law because, uh, miss Marian, you know,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: she would Michelle be hot, you know, she'd grow upstairs.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: My mother in law was living on the in the
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: sweep and on the third floor, and Michelle to go
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: up there, and I'm pretty sure she talked Michelle down
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: a couple of times. Friends, one thing we Michelle and
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I both tell younger couples who are going through rough patches.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I think we were pretty good about the fact that
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: even when things were tough, we never lost basic respect
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: for the other person. We never thought that that person
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: was a bad person. We never said things that would
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: make it seem as if, oh, you just completely disrespect me.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: It was more, look, I love you, bark, but you
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: know this is driving me crazy or un you know
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: how much I respect you. But so I think that
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: is part of what kept us able to sort this out,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: because we never doubted each other's intentions. And the basic
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: fact that you know, my view of Michelle is she
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: is a remarkable woman, even you know, if she drive
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: me crazy sometimes, I never thought that there was anybody
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: who I would rather be with, you know, being that
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you're so even killed, right, did you ever take your
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: frustrations from work home? And did you ever do anything
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: like punch a wall or what did you do when
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you got mad? You know? I had there were times
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: where I would have a potty mouth in the oval office.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: But I heard some of his book, which I appreciate
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: because well, I mean, I think it's I think it's
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: important to be honest, because part of what I try
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: to describe in the book is the White House, you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and the presidency. Look, you're the leader of the free world,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: is the most powerful office on her but it's also
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a job. And the West Wing is also an office,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: and you're going to have some of the same frustrations
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: and mistakes and doubts and mishaps as in any office,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: in any job, which also means sometimes you're gonna cuss
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit because because stuff's frustrating. Um, working out
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: was important, you know, we get those workouts in sometimes.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Uh you know, dear friend of ours who who was
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: also a trainer, Cornell mccleollen, we uh uh, you would
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: get the boxing gloves out and it didn't seem too funness.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: A lot of older people in the White House that
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you can't just say, let's play a pickup game. Those
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: guys pass out, you know. Now. I had my weekend
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: game though with Reggie love right who you know on
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Reggie at that time was you know, probably he just
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: turned thirty. He wasn't posting up Joe Biden, and so no,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: we could we couldn't play. We couldn't play in the
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: White House. We had a we had a regular game.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Reggie had his crew, and so we we had regular
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: bad fsketball games. You know a lot of times though,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you know, you would just try to take the long
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: view in dealing with frustrations. If Mitch McConnell and the
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Republicans were blocking something for no reason, if they were
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: playing games that actually had real consequences in terms of
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: people being able to get healthcare or be able to
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: get some relief from unemployment or what have you. You know,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: you just had to remind yourself that you were in
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a long term contest and there were going to be
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: up and downs at any given time, but that if
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: you kept your eye on the ball, that you know,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: sooner or later you can prepare, you know, and yes
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: we can chapter them. You discuss how you were frustrated
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: with the constant need to soften for white folks benefit
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: the blunt truths about raising this country. You still feel
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the need to do that after the last four years,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't. Well, I think we're all a little bit
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: more open and aware. And one of the things that
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I was really inspired by in the wake of tragedy
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: was the response after George Floyd's murder, because what you
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: saw was not only people of all walks of life
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: out there protesting. It wasn't just black folks. But when
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: you looked at the polling, you actually saw that by
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: a significant number, many more white Americans were willing to
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: acknowledge problems in the criminal justice system based on race.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Why do we have to wait on them though, well,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: to speak our truth to power? You know, what this
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: comes down to is how do you build coalitions to
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: actually get stuff done? Because the truth of the matter
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: is is that in very few places are African Americans
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: a majority of the vote that you know, it's just
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: simple math, right so and right where we're sitting right
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: now in Washington, DC, that would be the case. But
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: there are not a lot of states, and they're a
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: handful of cities where just the black vote delivers the
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: power then to actually bring about concrete change. Now we
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: have more with Barack Obama, President Barack Obama, when we
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: come back, it's the Breakfast Club wanting everybody's DJ Envy
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy we are the Breakfast Club
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: and getting on that interview with Barack Obama on his
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: mortin Luther King Day, it's the breakfast Lugal morning. I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: think I think people want to know, like, what did
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you do specifically for black people? Not the rising tide
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: lifts all boats types of rhetoric, because we all know
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: black people's boat got to hold in it. So the
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: systemic things that we're done to black people to put
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: us in these positions, we need specific systemic things to
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: get us out. So well, but what I'm doing, what
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, tarvel Mane, is black property drop faster than
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: everybody else. Black incomes went up more than a lot
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: of other folks. So you know, the issue is sometimes
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: we just didn't go around advertising that because once again,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the goal here is to build coalitions where everybody is
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: getting something so that they all feel like they've got
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: a stake in it. But a lot of my policies
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: were targeted towards people most in need. Those folks are
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: disproportionately African American. Now, there are some things that for example,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: US having a Civil Rights division in the Justice Department
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: that actually took seriously civil rights and imposed consent decrees
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: on places like Ferguson, and you know, change sentencing guidelines
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: so that we didn't max out on sentencing for all
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: non violent drug offenses, but change the incentives of the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: prosecutors were judged not by how long of a sense
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: you got, but did you get a proportional sentence? Was
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: it a fair sentence? Those kinds of changes that we made.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: That's why I say there's a reason why the federal
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: prison population dropped, by the way, at the same time
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: the crime also dropped, right, So we were able to
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: show that you can have a smart strategy in terms
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: of reducing crime without expanding incarceration. But the truth of
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: the matter is she at the end of the day,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: there is no way in eight years to make up
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: for two hundred years. Absolutely, And the question is constantly,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: how are you going to you know, the way I've
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: been describing it because because it's very much how I
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: understand the presidency. Now. You're like a relay runner. You know,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: you you're getting the baton from somebody else, and all
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: you can do is run your stage or the race,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and then you pass it on the next person. And
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: on either side, both who you got to hit from
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: and who you're passing it too, they may not have
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the same priorities that you do. You know, you're you
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: know that you're not going to get everything done that
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you need to get done. But what you got to
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: do is do your best to get as much done
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: as possible, and I think that's what we did. Would
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you say that your intention with this book was to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: explain to people also how difficult it was for you
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: to get things passed and for people to see what
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you did do, because, like you said in the book,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of times, it's not your policies and what
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: you do, it's more what you say and the feeling
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: that people have, and that's what they pay attention to.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: So absolutely, Look, let's take something like, you know, the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the Recovery Act. So I walk in the day I
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: walk in, we're losing eight hundred thousand jobs a month.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: The economy is actually contracting faster than it did during
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: the Great Depression. And six months later the economy was
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: growing again and we had kind of stopped the free fall.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: But if you're somebody who had lost your job at
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: that point or lost your house, you're not feeling good.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: And we couldn't go around saying look what a pattering
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: ourselves on the back, saying look at what a great
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: job we did, because people are still hurting out there.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I hope if somebody reads this, they come to recognize
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: if we want to bring about systemic change, there are
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different pressure points that we have
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: to apply. It's not just the presidency. So I write
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: extensively about the fact that I have a lot of
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: power as president. I'm the most powerful person as president,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: but I still need a Congress. I still need to
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: make make sure that we have a majority in the
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: House of Representatives, because if I don't, I can't get
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: any a single law passed if I want to change something.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: On criminal justice reform, it turns out that the federal
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: government isn't actually in charge of most criminal law. Most
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: criminal laws made at the state level and determined by
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: state prosecutors. Most police departments the federal government has done
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: to do with that's determined by the mayor in that city.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Whether they're prosecuted when they do something wrong, that's up
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: to the states attorney or attorney in that area. So
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: when we think about politics, it is a mistake for
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: us to say, Okay, once i'm I voted for president,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I'm done. And I hope people don't repeat that mistake
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: with Biden and Kamala Harris, right, Now we've got two
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: seats in Georgia coming up. If the Republicans win those
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: two seats, then Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will not
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: be able to get any law pass. Asked that Mitch
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: McConnell and the Republicans aren't willing to go along with Well,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: you got to do a better job of letting people know. Hey,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I wanted to do a lot more for people, especially
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: black people, but I couldn't because Miss McConnell was blocking
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: me every chance you got. Well, that's why I wrote
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the book that's everybody. Everybody gonna read. That's all I'm saying. Well,
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: all these interviews that I hear some people listen to.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: You said, you're telling about Georgia where Warnock, I see
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: they're giving him issues about his alliance with Jeremiah Rights
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the same kind of stuff. Did you tell him he
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: should step back and denounce him at this point? No. Look,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: first of all, it is a losing game at this
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: stage to just go chasing crazy commentary. Uh, there's some
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: things you have to answer aggressively, but you can't obsess
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: over it. Warnock is doing a great job. If I'm him,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be emphasizing what am I positively going
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: to do on behalf of the people of Georgia that
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: as opposed to just trying to play defense against a
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: bunch of crazy stuff that's coming out there. But but listen,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: it's hard winning in Georgia, just like it's hard winning
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: in Iowa. It's like it's hard in a lot of
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: the country. And one thing I think that I hope
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the book also reminds us of, you know, those of
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: us who live in DC or New York or LA.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes we do not have a a good
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: enough sense of how big this country is and how
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: a lot of folks do not accept at all things
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: that we who are living in urban metropolitan areas just
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: take for granted. From South Carolina, I don't know. Yeah,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I mean it's you know, you go, there are a
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: big chance in the country, even in our own communities, right,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: I mean so so I deeply believe that people should
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: be treated equally under the law, regardless of sexual orientation.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: I was shocked you talked about that in the book,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: But we all, you know, I mean, I think they're
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: big chunks of our community where that's still controversial. People
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: were surprised about a lot of Hispanic folks who voted
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: for Trump. But there's a lot of evangelical Hispanics who,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: you know, the fact that Trump says racist things about
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Mexicans or puts detainees, you know, undocumented workers in cages,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: they think that's less important than the fact that, you know,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: he supports their views on you know, gay marriage or abortion. Right.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: It's hard to believe when you say this, but then
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you look at the way the government is ran. Right,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: it's about, for instance, you look at these big businesses
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: and you look at their taxes, and they don't pay
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: taxes at all. And then you look at somebody who
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: is just getting by paying as much tax as possible.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: And you look at, for instance, the pandemic task Force
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that you created, and then you see Trump coming office
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: and he shuts that down. And then you think to yourself, damn,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: if that task force was still around, with so many
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: people have been dead, it's been killed, would we be
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: able to save lives? We would have saved some lives.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Here's one simple statistic. Canada, right right next door. Their
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: death rate is forty percent of what oursists per capita.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I don't you know, so for every help you know,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: one hundred Americans that have died, only forty Canadians have died,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: and that's just a matter of their government making better decisions.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: So the question, though, is is that you still had
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: seventy billion people voting for a government that I would
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: say objectively as failed miserably and handling this basic looking
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: after the American people and keeping them safe. Why is that? Well,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: part of it is because you know, it turns out
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: politics is not just about policy. It's not just about numbers.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: It's about the stories that are that are being told.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: And the story that they're hearing from Fox News and
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh and you know, in some cases inside their
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: churches is that Democrats don't believe in Christmas, and you know,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you only care about minorities and black folks and are
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: trying to take your stuff and trying to take your
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: guns away, and right there's a whole story that's being
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: told to them, and people end up feeling as if
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: you know, what we are under attack. That you know,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: what's always interesting to me is the degree of which
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: we've created, you've seen created in Republican politics, the sense
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: that white males are victims, like they're the ones who
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: are like under attack, which obviously doesn't jibe with both
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: history and data and economics. But that's a sincere belief,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you know, that's been internalized. That's a story that's being told.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: And how you unwind that is going to be not
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: something that is done right away. It's gonna take some time.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Now we have more with Barack Obama. President Barack Obama.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: When we come back, it's the Breakfast Club Goal Morning.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: It's DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We are
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. Let's get into our interview with President
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Barack Obama. It's the Breakfast Club Goal Morning. But we
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: heard some rulers in this book, how different because you know,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: when I hear that, I'm like and it feels like
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: we're catering to white racists all the time. So I
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: wonder how different would the DIM strategy be if we
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: lived in a one man, one vote society. Would know
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: electe oh, I think that would help. Must take a
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: simple example like the Senate. So Wyoming, which has about
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: half a million people, has the same number of senators
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: as California with thirty three million people. Right, So what
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: that means is is that the US Senate is hugely
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: skewed towards some of these lower population, you know, more rural,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: much wider states than the big coastal states, and that's
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: a that's a big difference in terms of getting stuff done.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: So so the bottom line is is that our democracy
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: is imperfect. Changing that is going to take a lot
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: of effort, because you've got to get over the hump,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: even even just to secure our voting rights. One of
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: the things that you know is still at stake at
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Georgia is if we controlled the Senate, then it is
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: at least theoretically possible to pass a voting rights bill
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: that stops some of this voter suppression and intimidation that
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: you're still seeing around the country, and that Republicans have
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: been pretty blatant about just saying, look, we just we're
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: trying to prevent them for voting. But getting to the
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: electoral college, getting to the way that the US Senate
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: is skewed, that would require us also potentially admitting Washington,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: DC and Puerto Rico in as states so that you know,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: which has its own politics. You know, it would mean
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: having states change how they do their electoral count. Um.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: I think the Constitution is outdated, they got to get
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: rid of that language. The way that that diverse the
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: country is those people weren't at the table when they
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: wrote the constitution. You're a constitutional lawyer, you gotta we
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: gotta get well, there is a way to change it.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: It's called amending the constitution. The problem is that in
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: order to do that, we have to have such an
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: increase in awareness and activism. So there's a mechanism to
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: amend the constitution, but you just have to get everybody
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: involved and focused in it. And this is part of
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: the reason. You know, folks have been teaching me about
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: how you know, man, that's a long book, and you know,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Michelle's was so much shorter. And you know, there were
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: times where I was tempted to, you know, let me
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: just leave out this explanation and that explanation because folks,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: you know, they're not gonna necessarily want to read all that.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: But part of what I wanted to do was just say, man,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: this is the stuff that we've got to know if
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: we really want to change stuff, Like you have to
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: know about the filibuster in the Senate. Right, So this
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: is a rule that wasn't even in the Constitution. This
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: is just a rule that the Senate adopted that says
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: you have to have sixty votes to pass legislation, you
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: have to have a supermajority. That even more empowers those
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: little states, right because now they don't even need they
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: don't even need fifty Senate votes. They just need forty
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: one to basically block anything from getting through the Senate.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: That's what happened to me in my first two years
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: was I was having to get to sixty votes on everything,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: which meant that the number of Senators that were basically
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: representing twenty five percent of the country had a veto
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: power over anything we want to try to get done.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: But most people don't know that. You know, if if
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: you try to explain to the average brother in the
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: barbershop man that filibuster, I just I just thought it
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: when people talked for a long time. Yeah, well but
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I learned about But that thing is which, by the way,
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: had its roots. You know, the thing that it was
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: most used for was to block civil rights legislation and
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: and anti lynching legislation, and that thing is still operating.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: We have to know how that stuff works in order
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: for us if we really want the kind of changes
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, where taking away some of these barriers
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: to everybody having their voice heard in the government. President
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Obama has to go, guys, so and listen. Congratulations. One
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: hundred ninety thousand sold in the first day, which is
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: breaking all kinds of records. So it just shows the
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: power that you still have. You got a little name
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: out here. First of all, I think it's because it
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: was packaged with Michelle's book, so you know, and uh,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: but I appreciate you guys. You know, you talked about
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: black folks and how they talked about or thought about
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: my presidency. I will say, even at our lowest point,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: the amount of loyalty and folks having our back, knowing
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: you know that we were going through some you know, challenges, UM.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: The prayer that we got, the you know, the blessings
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: we received from our own um that that is as
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: much as anything, what helped sustain us. It is something
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: we never took for granted and we were always grateful.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: So So what one of last question, what through Democrats
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: old black people specifically do you think, especially afterward we
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: just did in this past election. Well, I look, I
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: think that Democrats and Republicans and America old black folks
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the same thing that all people are o which is
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: justice and fairness. The differences is that for Black folks
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: that justice has been deferred and denied for too long,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: or it's been half baked and insufficient. We've never done
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: a full reckoning of what was part of the essential
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: history and building of this country. And I think in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: concrete terms, you know, I don't want to overstate what
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Joe and Kamala are going to be able to accomplish
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: in this congressional environment with that much resistance, because they're
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: going to be in a position that was even that's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: probably even tougher than the one that I came in.
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  Speaker 1: But what I can say is, I think at the
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  Speaker 1: very minimum, everything they put forward, from jobs programs to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: small business loans to education to college debt issues, that
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  Speaker 1: they have to be mindful that the African American community
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: put faith in them, to hear them and to understand
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: what ordinary folks are going through every day, working hard,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: trying to make it and that and that they shouldn't
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: be making a decision without knowing, all right, this is
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: going to have an impact on some of those struggles
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: to make make people and their families a little more secure,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: a little bit better. It's not going to make things perfect.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: But if if at the end of Joe Biden's presidency
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: and Commons presidency, he too can say what I was
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: able to say, which is people's lives are better. You know,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, that's what you expect
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: out of politicians. They're a morally correct way to do
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: what Trump did, which is as far as like you know,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: catering to his base, you know, doing what he felt
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: was best for his folks. They are morally correct way
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  Speaker 1: to do that get more votes. I mean, the truth
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: of the batter has actually Trump hasn't gotten a lot.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: He's torn some stuff down, he hasn't There's no law
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: that he's passed that is transformative in this country. He
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: passed the task cut to give away some more money
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: to rich folks, which publican has been doing that for years.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't name a piece of legislation that he's
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  Speaker 1: done that has actually changed the country, even for his
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: own constituencies. So it's always easier to tear down than
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: build up. Building up that requires votes, And that's why
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I do not I will come on this show every
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: time if I hear folks say voting doesn't matter. Yeah,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: vote will not. It's not like winning the lottery. You
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: don't you don't vote, and then suddenly everything is great.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Voting is more like you know, washing your car or
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: iron in your clothes. It's part of the thing you
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: do to make stuff work and and it's part of
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  Speaker 1: your responsibility and as part of all of our responsibility,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: just to make sure that we don't see chaos of
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: the sort that we've just seen over the last four years.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: All right, guess well, we appreciate you for joining us.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: President Barack Obama, thank you, thank you so much, Thank
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: you so much. You know, I feel pretty good. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you're telling to watch out for Florida order
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  Speaker 1: she creates people in America come from the Bronx in
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: all of Florida. Yes, you are a donkey, a Florida man,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: a chap and at n for a very strange reason.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: It gave him too much money. A man is arrested.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I can definitely say he's rigged the door to his
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: home and an attempt to electricate his puject's wife. Police
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: arrested in Orlando man for talking a fa to practice
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: club bar haying the guy. I don't know why y'all
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: keep letting get y'all elected well off because your state
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: is crazy, all right, don't get today goes to a
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Florida woman named Vanessa Marie Huckaba. Now, what did your
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: uncle Charla always say about the great state of Florida.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: The craziest people in America come from the Bronx in
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: all of Florida. There is no disputing that. And um,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: I think God that I came up in an era
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: before dating websites. Not knocking anyone who does it, but
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I couldn't see myself on Elitch, singles, e Harmony, black People,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: meet match dot Com. Our guy drown Moss Puerto Rican
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: and runs all boards up here. He's on Latin Fields
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: under the user name called Quito Poppy. Look him up. Okay,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: but none of that stuff is for me. The way
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: my anxiety is set up, I couldn't just meet a
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: complete scranger online, a person who can tell me anything
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: they want about themselves and none of it be true,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: and then you show up get robbed, killed, catfished. I'm
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: not judging anybody who does the dating singles thing. I'm
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: just simply saying it's not for me. It's like skydiving.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: It's like bungee jumping. It's like being uncircumcised. Not knocking
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: any of y'all that dude, I got those things, Just
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: telling you that's not my thing. Now. Vanessa Marie Huckaba
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  Speaker 1: has the dating profile set up under the name island
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  Speaker 1: Babe one two three four. Does that name not look
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: in sound fake? Okay? See what I'm saying, Island Babe
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: one two three four. How could you take a profile
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: page on a dating website? Serious? That says Island Babe
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: one two three four. It sounds and looks like a
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  Speaker 1: Russian bot when you see it now. According to the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Miami Herald, she included a name, photo, cell phone number,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: and address. But here's the Catchwell, actually it is no catch.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: This dating profile is exactly what it sounds like. Fake.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: But I tell you what, this one is fake for
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: a great humorous but sit costs. Okay, see Vanessa, she
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: should actually be the new hosts of Punks. I don't
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: condone what I'm about to tell you she did. But
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: man isn't entertaining to watch, Steve. Vanessa is a classic
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: case of the X oh. A lot of y'all out
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: there got a crazy x that's stalking your ass right now.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: That is upset that you have moved on to another relationship.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Vanessa is one of the olds. Okay, see this dating
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: profile she set up that included a name, photo, cell
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: phone number, and address. It wasn't hers. In fact, it
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: was the woman her ex boyfriend is currently dating. But
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: the story gets much much better because it wasn't her
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: milkshake that brought all the boys to the yard. New
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: not in Florida and Florida you need something a little
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: stronger than milkshakes to bring boys to the yard. Let's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: go to the Miami Herald for the report police. A
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Florida keys woman was jail on a cyberstock in charge
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: after a police said she posted a fake profile on
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: a dating site that sent strangers to another woman's home
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: looking for sex. Freshman tonight. All right, stop stop right
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: there for a second. Stop right there for a second,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: because there are conflicting reports. The Miami Herald is saying
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Vanessa posted the headline free meth tonight. But in the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: news report what we just heard, they say fresh meth tonight.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Either way island Bay one two three four, got meth?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: That's right, Speed cookies, cotton candy whatever you call it.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: But Nessa had cranking cheeks and in Florida, it doesn't
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: matter if you advertise, and fresh, cranking free cheeks are
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: free cranking fresh cheeks. Folks is pulling up even though
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  Speaker 1: I don't know you know how fresh we expect the
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: cheeks to be from a meth head in Florida. I
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: mean it's hot down then that pooky. Have you not
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: washing for day? But forget all that. Continue with the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: news report. Vanessa Marie Hukaba twenty nine, was arrested November
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: twenty first on misdemeanor charges of cyberstocking and harassing. Hukaba
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: in October and November sent threatening messages and made harassing
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: phone calls to a thirty six year old Key West
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: woman who was dating her ex. The victim told police
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: she has never met Hukkaba and began getting the threats
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: after she started dating a man Hukaba had dated for
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: six months. Hukaba told the victim she would need to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: get a restraining order. Hukaba's next move was to put
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: up a profile under the name Island Babe twelve thirty
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: four on Seeking Arrangement, which advertises it helps pair women
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: with sugar daddies along with a victim's photo, cell phone number,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: and address. The profile invited men to come to the
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: victim's home for sex. Multiple strangers began arriving at the
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: victims thereafter. I'm giving this woman donkey to day. But
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: that's say you're getting donkey today because you absolutely deserve it. Okay.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: A person's home is their sanctuary, it's their castle. It
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: should be their place of peace. To have a bunch
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: of Floridians pulling up during a devil damn pandemic, when
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Folks is supposed to be social distancing, you got all
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: these meth heads showing up to this young woman's house
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: looking for cranking cheeks. You're lucky that woman didn't stay
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: in her ground and let her goddamn gun blam. Okay,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: so you are earning every bit of this he hall
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: but ron of applause, Vanessa, amazing, amazing idea. Right, this
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: is an amazing idea. You gotta beef with another human.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: You're mad at this lady because she's your ex boyfriend,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: so you advertise free meth and sex at her house
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: in Florida. There is nothing that can bring holiday joy
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: to a white Florida man's heart like the thought of
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: tweets getting tricking. Okay, only a human with a Florida
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: brain could concoct and execute something like this. And Vanessa,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: even though I am highly entertained, it will not stop
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: me from giving you the sweet sound of the hammertones.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Oh no, you are dogee the day, dogee, oh the day.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Guess sweezy? All right? I mean, would you like to
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: just for pieces and let's do it? Let's do it? Okay? Uh, well,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: let's play a game up Johns. What racing? All right, guys?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Vanessa Marie Huckaba Huckaba, Okay, she's from Florida, Florida. She
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: set up a fake profile for a woman, Okay, a
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: woman I was dating her ex boyfriend and she was
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: advertising free meth in sex. Guess what race you go first?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I would have to say Caucasian, just because of the
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: crystal meth. I was thinking Latino, because no, you weren't.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Now I was thinking white. Oh, I gotta say what
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: it is? White? I know it all right, White with
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: yellow teeth set Okay, white with the yellowest teeth you've
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: ever seen in your goddamn life. All right, you see,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: smile and you slow down, okay, driving Charlagne, thank you
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: for that Donkey to day. Yes, indeed, goddamn it. We're
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: playing some of the best best stuffs. And one of
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: them was when Kamala Harris stopped through the first interview
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: that she actually came before she was running for president,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: and writers was, um, this was twenty eighteen, maybe in
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: twenty and seventeen, I don't remember twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: and like just she was just sending to California, right,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And we actually talked about
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: her running for president and you know, she ran. It
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: didn't work out. We she ended up being the Madame
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: Vife president. So yeah, okay, so we're gonna get that
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• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: stopped through. So we're gonna get that on. It's to
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: breakfast and and by the way, having been back since,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: I mean she's been here three times, right, Kamala came
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: here in twenty eighteen, she came here um again when
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: she was running for president, and another time when she
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: was running for president. She hasn't been here since she's
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: been Madam vice president. Right to get pissed off about that, okay,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: but so we just sending the Kamala Harris. Hopefully we'll
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: talk to you soon. All right, don't move. It's to
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  Speaker 1: the building. Yes, she went to the other h you,
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  Speaker 1: but we got a slide this morning. Kamala Harris, US,
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  Speaker 1: Senator of California field the next president of the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America. The run, Miss Kamala. Good boy, I
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  Speaker 1: am so happy and honored to be here. You're gonna listen.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Let him just Howard like absolutely not so who beat
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: you an ALV Hampton or Howard? It was Howard? Thank you?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Who has the best homecoming in the world every year? Hampton?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Howard Hampton, who produced third Goood Marshall. Howard, Howard, You
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: got a couple of out who produced the Black Panther.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: We did, you know, we did the costume. You know,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: you know we did the coso for black pot with you,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna share the little I didn't go to college,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: but if I was, you out to say, well, who
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: was stealing from the financial department? All got bad food
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: over that slide? Were welcome? Yes here, not for those
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: who may not know. Let us know a little about yourself.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: You're from the big area, right. I was born in Oakland,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: okay Um, and I went to Howard. I went out
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: of Howard to law school in California. I started my
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: career in the DA's office in Oakland, California, and then
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: I was elected the first black woman to be elected
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: a district attorney in the state of California in San Francisco.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I was there for two terms, and then I was
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: elected Attorney General of California, making me the first woman
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: and the first African American ever elected as an attorney channel.
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  Speaker 1: So did you grow up an a black Panthers. Yes,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: the influence on you are oh absolutely. I mean my parents,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: look my sister and I joke. We grew up surrounded
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: by a bunch of adults. We spent full time marching
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: and shouting Wow, justice right. So they my parents actually
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: met when they were active in the civil rights movement.
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  Speaker 1: My godmother, my aunt Mary, was one of the founders
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: of the Black Studies department at San Francisco State, which
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: was the first black studies department in the country. So
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: they were active and they were vocal and aking and
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: civil rights activists. I'm surprised you got inside boys. Yeah,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Howard trains you to do things like that, But what
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: got you into politics? Because you did go to Howard
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: that's a party school, So we figured you, really, what
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: got you into politics? What made you want to say
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: this is the route I want to go? You know,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: I grew up in a community of folks, like I said,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: who are marching and shouting? And I said, you know, yes,
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: there is an important role to play on the outside,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: banging down the door, on bend to knee, trying to
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: change the systems. But we also have to be inside
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: the room where the decisions are being made. And I
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  Speaker 1: ran for district attorney because I wanted to be the
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  Speaker 1: one who was making decisions about what we were going
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  Speaker 1: to do with criminal justice policy. And in fact, I
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  Speaker 1: wrote a book back in two thousand and eight based
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  Speaker 1: on my belief about what we need to do to
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  Speaker 1: reform the criminal justice system. In here and here's how
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  Speaker 1: I think about it. Criminal justice policy. We have been
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  Speaker 1: offered a false choice, the choice suggesting that you're either
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  Speaker 1: soft on crime or you're tough on crime, instead of
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  Speaker 1: asking are we smart on crime? Right? And by that
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  Speaker 1: I mean recognizing that, you know, the public health model
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  Speaker 1: tells us if you want to deal with a health epidemic, smartest,
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  Speaker 1: most effective, and cheapest way to deal with it is
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  Speaker 1: prevention first. If you're dealing with it in the emergency
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  Speaker 1: room or the prison system, it's too late and it's
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  Speaker 1: too expensive. So let's be smart on crime. And that
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  Speaker 1: means let's be smart in knowing that if we really
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  Speaker 1: want to have public safety, let's prevent crime from happening
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  Speaker 1: in the first place, which means focusing on communities that
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  Speaker 1: we know need more economics, need more pathways to economic
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  Speaker 1: health and success, doing what we need to do to
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  Speaker 1: recognize that there is a direct connection between public education
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  Speaker 1: and public safety. So let's prioritize public education. And instead
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  Speaker 1: of just being only concerned about public safety because there's
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  Speaker 1: a real connection, and it's actually cheaper to focus on
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  Speaker 1: educating young people than it is on incarcerating whole communities
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  Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, that's one of the first things I
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  Speaker 1: saw you do that I was extremely impressed with. If
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  Speaker 1: it was the Back on Track program, that's right, what's
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  Speaker 1: that all about? So Back on Track is a program
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  Speaker 1: that I started years ago. I focused on the eighteenth
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  Speaker 1: through twenty four year old young you know, drug sales offender.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason I focused on that population is because
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  Speaker 1: they're just a lot of them. And I also focused
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  Speaker 1: on that population because whether we were at Hampton or
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  Speaker 1: Howard when we were in college, we were eighteen through
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  Speaker 1: twenty four and we were called college kids. But when
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: you turn eighteen and you're in the system, you're considered
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  Speaker 1: an adult, period, regardless of the fact that we know
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  Speaker 1: that's the very phase of life in which we have
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  Speaker 1: invested billions of dollars in this world, in these places
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  Speaker 1: called colleges and universities, knowing that that's the prime phase
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  Speaker 1: of life where you can mold somebody to be a productive,
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  Speaker 1: an accomplished adult. And so I focused on that population
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  Speaker 1: also understanding that when they pick up that first offense
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  Speaker 1: they will be designated a felon for life. And so
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  Speaker 1: what we did is essentially I created a program focused
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  Speaker 1: on them and basically getting them job counseling. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of the young men are fathers, getting them support for
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  Speaker 1: what they naturally want to do, which is parent their children,
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  Speaker 1: but may not have the skills or the resources. We
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: focused on what to do around housing and a just
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: wrap around, and we ended up as a result of
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  Speaker 1: doing that and then when they would graduate the program,
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  Speaker 1: dismiss their charges. But what we also ended up doing
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  Speaker 1: is reducing their likelihood of reoffending by a huge percentage.
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  Speaker 1: And that was a model of what ended up later
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: by the Justice Department being designated as a model of
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: innovation and law enforcement in the country. What do we
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: do with so many with drugs being legalized, I should say,
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: marijuana being legalized in so many different states, and a
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: lot of these kids, like you said, are in jail
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: for that same legalized crime. Now we need to decriminalize marijuana.
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  Speaker 1: We have a problem with the mass incarceration in our country.
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  Speaker 1: And let's be clear, the War on drugs was a
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: failed war. It was misdirected in essence, and you know,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: we're now now more people are understanding when we talk
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: about the opioid epidemic that when you're talking about substancies,
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: that's a public health matter that should not be thought
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  Speaker 1: of as a criminal justice matter. And so what we
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  Speaker 1: need to do is recognize that we have to get
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: people into treatment where that is appropriate. But as it
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  Speaker 1: relates to incarcerating people from marijuana, I think it is
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: long overdue that we recognize we need to change the system. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go back to the Oakland days for
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  Speaker 1: a minute, because you said the Black Panthers had an
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  Speaker 1: influence on you, and it's this whole conversation we've been
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  Speaker 1: having about how do we improve relations between police and
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: the communities, and Black Panthers were an organization that actually
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  Speaker 1: policed the police. Do you think that an organization like
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  Speaker 1: that could exist now in twenty eighteen. I think that
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  Speaker 1: one of the greatest advances in the fight for civil
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: rights has been the smartphone. Oh okay. People would come
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: up to me coma, what all of a sudden is
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: going on with all these cases of police misconduct? What's
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: going on? And I'd look at people and say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you sound like a colonist. You know, are you calling
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  Speaker 1: him a right, right, right, right, fair enough, But the
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: point being, you know what colonists do. They go to
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: a place that's been existing that way for thousands of years,
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  Speaker 1: and because they're seeing it for the first time, they
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: think they've discovered. So the great thing about the smartphone
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: has been that now it is undeniable. When it happens,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: there is evidence sometimes playing for us in real time
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: as we know. It is audio, it is visual, and
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: it is highlighting a need to reform the criminal justice
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  Speaker 1: system about around recognizing that we need to do a
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: better job of training police officers, around bias, around use
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: of force, around the necessity to de escalate a situation
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: instead of using force as the first option as though
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: it is the only option. And more people are now
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: involved in this discussion than ever before because it is
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: not just us who is experiencing it. Now everyone is
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: experiencing it, at least in terms of seeing it happen.
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  Speaker 1: And I think this is part of what has led
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: to the reforms that are starting to take place. But
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: there's still a lot more to do. On the Panthers, Remember,
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: one of the biggest contributions that the Panthers made was
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: their breakfast program. Absolutely, they were feeding the community and
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: protecting the community in that way. We have more. We
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: send it a come Harris, when we come back, don't move.
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  Speaker 1: It's to Breakfast Club. Good morning voting. Everybody is DJ Envy,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: We have Kamala Harris in the building. But let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about these schools and these shootings. I mean it's scary. Well,
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: first of all, you know, we have many, many communities
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: where our six and seven year olds are going to
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: sleep at night here in gunfire. Absolutely, they are experiencing
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: such trauma that is undiagnosed and untreated. Babies of our
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: community who have regularly attended funerals of somebody who was
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: killed as a result of gun violence, having family members,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: it may have even happened in front of them. So
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: we have enough trauma in our community that we need
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: to deal with. Without expecting that our second grader is
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: going to now go to school and look up in
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  Speaker 1: the front of the class that their teacher and she's
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: strapping a gun. That doesn't make any sense. We're talking
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: about school safety. There are things that we need to
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: address that include thinking about why is this an issue?
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  Speaker 1: And part of it is that we have not passed
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  Speaker 1: meaningful smart gun safety laws in this country. Let's talk
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: about that. Let's talk about how the NRA has grabbed
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: people by that they're the body and and has has
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: has caused people to have a lack of courage to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: address the fact. Again, another false choice. I'm in favor
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: of the Second Amendment, and I also want I want
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  Speaker 1: smart gun safety laws. Assault weapons shouldn't be walking the
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: streets of a civilized country. We should have universal background checks.
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  Speaker 1: It makes sense. It's just practical that you might want
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  Speaker 1: to know before someone can buy a gun that they've
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: been found by a court to be mentally unstable. You
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: just might want to know that that's smart, aren't absolutely
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  Speaker 1: The missing ingredient to get something done is for Congress
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: to have the courage to act, bottom line. And that's
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: where I would say, Okay, so then what can we
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: as people who want to encourage Congress to act do?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: What can we do? Let's focus on the twenty eighteen elections.
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  Speaker 1: Let's focus on electing people who will have the courage
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  Speaker 1: and getting rid of people who don't. Well, you know,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: even with that said, you know when everybody saw the
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: police shootings happening. Barack Obama was in office, Why didn't
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: he have the courage to act to implement something to
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: where police weren't so gun hole. Well, I think that
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  Speaker 1: it's one of his big regrets that he was not
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: able to get smart gun safety laws passed. In terms
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: of the reforms, listen, Eric Holder, who was appointed by
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Barack Obama to be the US Attorney General and the
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: United States Department of Justice under Barack Obama did some
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: really good work. They started opening pattern and practice investigations,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: investigating various police departments around the country who had a
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: pattern and practice of racial discrimination and excessive force. And
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: you know what's going on now under this guy, Jeff Sessions.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: You've been on his ass, by the way, Yeah yeah,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: And under him, they're closing those pattern and practice investigations.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Under the previous administration, there were consent decrees where there
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: had been a finding of misconduct. The court kicked in
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: and said, you have to act a certain way, and
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: we're gonna watch that. They're shutting down all of those.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: They're reviving the war on drugs, they're reviving mandatory minimum sentences,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: and you know, again that's why we have got to
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: be vigilant at this moment in time because we are
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: looking at an administration that is rolling back the clock
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: in a profound, profound way. Why is Jeff Sessions doing that? Though?
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: Like is it really just Donald Trump trying to erase
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: everything Barack Obama did that? What they really really want?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Like they want to take take us backwards? So to speak. Listen,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: I think this has been on Jeff sessions agenda for
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: a very long time. Don't forget Kreta. Scott King spoke
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: out against Jeff Sessions when he was up years and
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: years and years ago for an appointment. This is part
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: of who he is. This is his history, this is
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: his mission. He is silently and maybe not so silently,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: carrying it out right before us. Why aren't you afraid
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: to speak out against him? I do speak free because
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: we have to speak truth, Charlemagne, we have to speak truth.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: You know what, This is a moment in time that's
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: actually requiring all of us to check ourselves about whether
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have the courage to speak and to speak truth,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: no matter how uncomfortable it makes some people feel, no
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: matter how much it may visit upon us, criticism or
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: expose us to attacks. We've got to speak truth. We've
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: got to speak truth about what is happening with this administration.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: Also because as leaders, the people know, they know, they
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: know in their hearts, they know intuitively, instinctively that things
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: are wrong, and we need to put the label on
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: it when we see what it's actually happening from the inside.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: And so that's part of why I do it, because
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: I believe that people have a right to know what
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: their government is doing for them and to them. And
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: you know, come what may, in terms of any response,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: how do we get our country back in order? Though
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: it just seems like ever since Trump came in office,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: it just seems like it's just been an outspurt of
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: racism going on, and it seems like it's hurting our
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: kids more than anything else out there. So I travel
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: around the country and I will tell you that I'm
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: not buying the suggestion that we are divided as a country.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: And here's why I say that. You know, when you
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: wake up in the middle of the night with that
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: thought that's been weighing on you, maybe it's some people
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: call it the witching hour at three o'clock in the morning,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: when you wake up in a cold sleet with that
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: thing that's been worrying you. It is never through the
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: lens of the party with which you're registered to vote,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: or you know, the demographic upholster put you in. And
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: for the vast majority of us, that thought has to
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: do with one of just a very few things our
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: personal health, the health of our children or our parents.
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  Speaker 1: Can I get a job, keep a job, pay the
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: bills by the end of the month. For so many
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: of our students, can I pay off their students? Can
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: they pay off their student loans? The vast majority of
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: us have so much more uncommon than what separates us.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: And we've got to hold on to that in this
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: fight right now, and then look to twenty eighteen, frankly,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: and the elections that are coming up in almost two
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: hundred days as an opportunity to act. What I love
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: about this moment with this administration and power is people
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: are acting. Look back to the Women's March, look it
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: to the March for Our Lives, the March for science,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: because also doesn'tinistration is putting forward policies that basically say
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: science should not be the basis of public policy, which
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: is ridiculous, but people are taken to the streets in
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: a way they never have and in that way, our
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: democracy is working. Now. We just got to take to
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: the streets and then walk those streets to the polling
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: place and vote. Because they used to say we couldn't
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: vote legally, we weren't allowed to vote. Now they say
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: we won't. We need to get out and vote because voting,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: US voting is connected to every one of the other issues.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: US voting is connected to who's going to be in
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: office and how they think about criminal justice policy. Who's
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: going to be office and pay attention to something like
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: the rate of black babies and infant mortality. Who's going
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: to pay attention to the fact that young black men
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: are still at the bottom of the economic ladder in
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: terms of opportunity, much less success in economic Who's in
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: office is going to make a difference. All right, we
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: have more with Senator Kamala Harris. When we come back,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, the Breakfast Club.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: You're checking out the world's most dangerous morning show. Morning.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. Now it's Martin Luther King Day,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get back out interview with Kamala Harris. This
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: was the first time that she actually stopped through. All right,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: don't move, it's a breakfast club. Good morning. We have
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Senator Kamala Harris still in the building. Charlomagne And I know,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: of course you just mentioned me too in times of
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: your big supporters to that, but you're also a too
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: short fan. Yes, I am too short. Yes, my favorite
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Senator Harris was my favorite words. Not doing that. I'm
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: not doing that. I'm not doing that. Two short straight
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: from Oakland. But you can, you can, you can? You
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: can like both? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course I
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: love music. Now they call you the female Barack Obama.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: That's what I've seen when I get Now, now, are
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: you are you considering and or do you see yourself
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: possibly running for president? Is that right now? I'm just
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: focused on what's in front of me. You know, I've
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: seen too many people focus on that thing out there
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: and they trip over the thing right in front of
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: them in front. I was just in Detroit last weekend
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: campaigning and talking to folks about the need to get
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: out and vote. Um, I'll be all over this all
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: over many states. I'm gonna be in Chicago, I'm gonna
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: be in Wisconsin, I'll be in Florida, probably go to Philly.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: We really have to turn out of Look what happened
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: in Alabama. Everybody should really see and remember what happened
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: just in a recent election where Doug Jones, a white Democrat.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: The math is that a white Democrat won in the
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: South because of black women. So our vote really matters
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: when we get out. It was over ninety percent of
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: black men who we came out of this. Yeah, and
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: that's right, And that's right. That's that's exactly right, that's
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: exactly right. You was on the debate team in college.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: How does that help you in your line of work?
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: First of all, it taught you how to um, to
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: come back from an argument, you know. It teaches you
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: how to stand in front of a room of people
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: and express your point and then and then when your
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: point is being attacked, to come back and respond um.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: It teaches you how to think quickly, and it gives
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: you confidence in the fact that you can stand in
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  Speaker 1: front of a room of people in state of position
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: and defend it. Because sometimes for so many of us,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: we're the only one who is like us in a room.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: And when you're the only one like you in a room,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: there is a natural tendency to want to just kind
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: of blend in. But what you learn during debate, or
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: what you learn at an HBCU, or if you have
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: the blessing of having a family or a community that
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: teaches you, um, you learn instead that when you're in
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: that room, you got to speak up, and you've got
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  Speaker 1: to acquire the skills to know how to do that
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  Speaker 1: and to have the confidence to do it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I mentor a lot of people and I always tell
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  Speaker 1: them your entire life, you will have many experiences where
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  Speaker 1: you're the only one like you in that room, the
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  Speaker 1: only one looks like you, the only one who's had
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  Speaker 1: the experiences you've had. And when you sit in that room,
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  Speaker 1: you have to remember we are all in that room
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  Speaker 1: with you. There was the Minangelo quote, I'm not alone
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  Speaker 1: because I stand ten. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny because I
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  Speaker 1: put my kids in debate class because of that, to
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  Speaker 1: be able to use their words to fight back and
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  Speaker 1: not have to use their hands. And it's still hurt
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  Speaker 1: just the same. And you got to objectively see both
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  Speaker 1: sides right. And also and to your point, also, the
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  Speaker 1: great thing about learning debate is that you learn their
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  Speaker 1: rules of debate, right, you know, because also to your point,
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  Speaker 1: when you argue, some people would suggest that's pure emotion
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  Speaker 1: and that if you're getting in an argument with somebody,
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  Speaker 1: you're just emotional and unreasonable. What debate teaches you is no,
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  Speaker 1: it's actually quite civilized to stand up and disagree with someone,
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  Speaker 1: and there are rules about how you do it, because
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  Speaker 1: that is what is done among thinking people. You do debate.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can go back to history in different
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  Speaker 1: forms of debate. The dozens. Yes, that was until you
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  Speaker 1: didn't like what they said and you and you just
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  Speaker 1: keep it right. But that's that was debate. That's your question,
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  Speaker 1: you know. You mentioned, of course we went to HBCUs.
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  Speaker 1: How important is the HBCU because we got away from
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  Speaker 1: it a couple of years ago and I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: a lot of the colleges in attendance and enrollment is low.
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  Speaker 1: So how important is HBCU to you and especially black families?
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you. I am who I am today
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  Speaker 1: for two reasons because of my mother and the family
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  Speaker 1: I was raising, and Howard University and HBCU. What you
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  Speaker 1: and I know when we walked onto that campus for
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  Speaker 1: the first time, we were surrounded by people that look
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  Speaker 1: like us all everywhere. Everybody you walk onto and I'll
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  Speaker 1: just speak about Howard, but I know Hampton is the same.
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  Speaker 1: You walk onto that campus, you can look over on
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  Speaker 1: one area and you will see a bunch of young
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  Speaker 1: African Americans who are students who are in the business
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  Speaker 1: school walking around with briefcases. You look over at another
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  Speaker 1: area and they're walking around in leotards because they're in
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  Speaker 1: the School of Fine Arts. The football captain and star,
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  Speaker 1: and the homecoming queen and the debate team, and there
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  Speaker 1: are sororities and fraternity and what you learn at an
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  Speaker 1: HBCU is you do not have to fit into somebody's
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  Speaker 1: limited prospective on what it means to be young, gifted,
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  Speaker 1: in black. You can be all those things. When I
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  Speaker 1: was at Howard, I pledged a sorority, I was on
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  Speaker 1: the debate team, I was the chair of the Economic Society,
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  Speaker 1: and I went to my share of parties too. And
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  Speaker 1: you didn't have to choose. You could be fully actualized.
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  Speaker 1: And there was such beauty to that, because this country
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  Speaker 1: still has such a limited you of what it means
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  Speaker 1: for a person to be young and smart and black.
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  Speaker 1: And so at those years when you're learning your identity
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  Speaker 1: to be in that environment where basically everybody just says
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  Speaker 1: to you can be whatever you want to be, and
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  Speaker 1: by the way, and if you don't, it's because you
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: need to work harder, right, Because that's the other thing
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  Speaker 1: that happens. You can't walk away and say, oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: because of my skin color that I didn't get that. Nope, Nope,
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  Speaker 1: that's not it. So it's a wonderful um, it's a
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  Speaker 1: wonderful place to learn who you are and to be
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  Speaker 1: proud of who you are and to leave them with
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  Speaker 1: the confidence of walking into the world also knowing one
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  Speaker 1: other thing. You know, people from time and time will
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: come up to you and they'll say, oh, you're special,
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  Speaker 1: You're unique. And I tell people, don't let it, don't
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  Speaker 1: let anybody tell you that, because there is there is
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  Speaker 1: something about being told that that also suggests you're the
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  Speaker 1: only one like you, which means you're alone. And what
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  Speaker 1: an HBCU SEU reminds us of. No, we come with people,
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  Speaker 1: We got people. There are a lot of us. We're
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  Speaker 1: not alone, right, well made you want to go to
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  Speaker 1: HBCU with a different world. No, I have family members
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  Speaker 1: that went to Howard. Wanted to go to Howard. Yeah,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: got you, wells she has to go. So one last one, brother, Well,
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  Speaker 1: I saw you talking about corporate donations. Yeah, and you
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: said you would depend It depends whether you would take
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: them or not. I think that money has had such
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: an outside influence on politics, and especially with the Supreme
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Court determining Citizens United, which basically means that big corporations
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: can spend unlimited amounts of money influencing a campaign. Right,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: We're all supposed to have an equal vote, but money
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: has now really tipped the balance between an individual having
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: equal power in an election to a corporation. So I've
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: actually made a decision since I had that conversation that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to accept corporate pack checks. Wow, um,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: I just I'm not. You're gonna raise money for campaigns
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: and stuff? Well, you know, I've raised so far this
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  Speaker 1: year three million dollars for my colleagues for the twenty
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: eighteen election cycle, and most of that money has been
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: like an eighteen dollars twenty dollars increments. People are turning
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: out what's the website yet? How can people um go
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: to Kamala Harris dot org and you will find it. Okay,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: a m LA Harris. If you decided to run for
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: president in twenty twenty, we'll do a fund raise before
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: you're right here on the radio now, we definitely will.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: We did one last year for Harry belafontas organization Change
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  Speaker 1: for Change, so we can get you a million of two. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: if you decide, have ever been a dream of yours?
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about it? I had so many dreams,
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  Speaker 1: I had so many. I do though, I really do.
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  Speaker 1: I do see the beauty of you, know, everything that
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: you raised in terms of the reaction and the other
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  Speaker 1: side of the tragedy of what's happening, and that gives
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  Speaker 1: me a great sense of optimism about our future and
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: in the history of our people. We march, we shout,
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: we sing, we dance. Right, Look at who just got
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: the pulletzerprise mister right, you had him on you, but
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: look at that. Look at Beyonce and what she did
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: at Chawa. Right. It has always been as part of
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: our history that our artists, everybody is part of the movement.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: Everyone understands that It's about the expression of feeling, and
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: we can do that with joy and with with conviction
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  Speaker 1: and with purpose. Great. I think God is setting us
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  Speaker 1: up for a woman of color president in twenty I
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: think that Senator Kamala Harris. I think she's our future president.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope she hope God puts his hands on
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: her and says, you know what, I want you to do.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: This as God playing put that on your playlist. Two
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