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126: Vanderpump Rules - The Ultimate Betrayal (S11 E2) · Reality TV Cringe

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Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one of your hosts,
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Celia, and I'm here with my real tight homegirl Beach. We are
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here to talk vander Pump rules. Yes, bitch, this show gets people
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crazy. I know, people get triggered a lot of opinions about the variety
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of cast members. All these terrible people, and they're kind of terrible.
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I mean, is there one cast member on VPR that is hands down,
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like without blame, innocent and awesome from what you've told me, No,
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yeah, well from what you've seen and from what I've seen episodes, no,
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yeah, really I think they're all you know, they're all human.
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Absolutely. There have been a few people out there. I know on Reddit
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people are really standing for Ariana, but then you go to Instagram and people
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are coming for they are her Twitter and it's just a dumpster fire. On
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Twitter, they hate everybody. That's why Twitter is great. Sometimes I can't
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I can't do Twitter. You never know what you're going to see on your
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we get into the episode, I do want to ask you, what's your
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major takeaway for season eleven, episode two, entitled Ultimate Betrayal is okay?
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James? My takeaway is that I'm kind of writing for Ariana and her pettiness
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a little bit, Like, I that's because you're a petty bitch, girl.
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I am a petty bitch. You going to admit it, Yep,
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I'm gonna admit it. And maybe that pettiness will catch up to her eventually
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in a bad way. I don't know, but I don't really care because
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I feel like Sandval, you kind of need to, you know, lie
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in the bed that you made for you sucked around and now you're finding out
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and stop being a little baby about it. And like we talked about a
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last episode, it's not okay to hate these people so much that they want
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to unlive themselves. Right, of course, she's so fucking cruel, Like
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we can chill out a little bit on the internet. The internet's so fucking
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toxic already, Like, maybe stop contributing to that. But at the same
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time, with how Arianna's treating Sandoval for how he's literally ruined her life,
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Like yeah, dude, that's what you get, right, I mean,
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it doesn't make it right. It doesn't mean that you know, Ariana has
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the higher ground, but like, she has every reason to be upset with
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you. You're the one, as she says in this episode, who broke
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the home. You're the one who fucked everything up. And now you can't
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be crying over here complaining about Oh I'm being hard on you. Sorry.
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And let's keep in mind that this episode is being filmed approximately three months after
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everything broke right, and so it's really fresh for Ariana. And yeah,
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maybe she's being mean. Yeah, maybe she's like a little bit in her
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Boss Bitch era, a little bit mean girls, but I'm kind of living
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for it me too. And Tom Sandoval is a worm with a mustache and
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he's as a lat narcissist and I didn't like him at all in this episode
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because all he did was what about isms to try and get out of taking
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meaningful responsibility for the shit that he did. But we'll get there. Yes,
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So my major takeaway was the following colon, I hate Brock. Yeah,
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yeah, I hate Brock. So the last couple of seasons that Sheena's
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been dating and or marrying Brock, I mean he's kind of been a non
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motherfucker factor. But I've always just been able sniff test. I could tell
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intuitively, this guy's looking for clout, he's looking for shine. This was
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the best day of his life when he met Shena and got her to fall
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in love with him. Because I don't think this dude works. Oh yeah,
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I don't know what he does. But the way he talked to Sheen
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when Shina was trying to set up a babysitter with her friend and her mom
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in Brock. She's struggling with OCD and postpartum issues, which, by the
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way, I struggled with as well, and maybe we can talk about it
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at that time, but it is hell on earth to deal with that in
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your brain, and the fact that Sheena is going through so much trying to
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take care of her child, being so afraid, and Brock with his fucking
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big legs just sitting there yelling at her in front of her mom, uh
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huh and in front of her best friend. Yeah, like he has a
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reason to be able to do that, Like like he's upset with her for
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having intrusive OCD thoughts by telling her to just let it go and I want
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my wife back, so centering himself in her pain and trauma, like making
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it about him and like when am I going to get my wife back?
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Like what what are you doing? Like your only job, sir, after
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having lost your children and hit your previous girlfriend slash wife or whatever he did.
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Yeah, oh yeah, he's a piece of shit. He's a piece
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of shit. Your only job is to take care of Sheena and to be
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there for her and accommodate her and make sure she has everything she needs to
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thrive, because that woman is paying all of your bills and probably your child
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support, and you're sitting here looking for a moment and you're yelling at this
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woman who is subsidizing your whole last life, like you can fucking miss me
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with that. Yes, he was coming on very fucking hard. And it's
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so fucking annoying when people tell people who suffer with like chronic anxiety or ocd
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oh just calm down, let it go. It's like, it's not that
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fucking easy, my god, that's not how it works. No, it's
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like telling a depressed person be happy, okay things, Yeah, I didn't
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think about that before, Like, shut the fuck up, dude, Like
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it's one thing if you talk to her and be like, hey, you
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know what, I want you to get help because I don't want you to
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be so unhappy like this, and I really want to do everything we can
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to fix this so you're not living in this chronic, horrible, awful headspace
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all the fucking time, and like, just have some fucking compassion, right,
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but just to sit there and yell at her and be like just let
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it go, like he's manufacturing a moment, like it definitely felt it was
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something. It felt like he was trying to produce a moment for himself that
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made her cry, yeah, and made her mom mad, yeah, and
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pissed off her friend and for what, Like, I don't even understand your
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point, right, Like she's trying to actually do what I think you're asking
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her to do, which is like line up a babysitter so you can go
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to the fucking club or whatever and have your you know, moment, But
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it is hard for her. Is there anything better that you have to do
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than take care of your wife? Right, you asshole? I'm sorry,
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but I was triggered, yeah, by Brock. And I just feel bad
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for Shina because, like I said before, she's always picking these losers and
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there have been rumors about Brock cheating, and I think last week actually said
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that the rumor was that he cheated with Laala, But I think the rumor
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was that he cheated with Rachel. I don't think he did. I don't.
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I don't know that Rachel would have done that, but again, I
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wouldn't put it asked her. But I think a lot of people are just
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seeing something in him that is duplicitous and opportunistic. I don't even know the
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dude from the show really, because I've only seen season ten and last week
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I said he gives me cheater vibes. He just doesn't give me good dude
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vibes. He seems like an asshole all the time. And it just sucks
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for Hidah because she seems like she's a nice person, seems like she's well,
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I think she's probably got a nice heart. Yes, she's very superficial
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though, and she's yeah, kind of a little shallow narcissistic with her fucking
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emo comeback for her is gold and the weird screamer that she did what we
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will, I mean, but I do need that to stop. Yes,
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So before we get into the other thing I wanted to talk about was because
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I know you're standing for James and you think he's handsome. Mhich, I
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don't get it. I don't think he's a big head. I don't want
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a body shame. That was that body shaming. I apologize. Actually he's
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got a very big hid in any event, I know you're standing for him.
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You think he's funny. He called Tom sand of All a warm with
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a mustache. All of these moments, and you're right, those were great.
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And that's the thing about James, like he's got these different facets.
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He's very funny. He's got a lot of charisma and energy. How ill
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us. In the last week or two, shit has been coming back to
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the surface about James because the rumblings have been around for a while that James
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is allegedly a physically abusive person. What case in point with Kristin, who
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you've not met. Yeah, she was one of the OG's. I really
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like Kristin. She was in a relationship with James. This is how he
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got on the show. He was a fucking fan, like Raquel, like
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fucking Brock. That's hilarious. He's a fan, got on the show.
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He started dating Kristen and they were at I think it was. Was it
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Katie's wedding, guys, I think it was Katie's wedding. And they got
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in a big fight, James and Kristen. They went out back, Kristin
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hauls off and hits him, which, by the way, is and then
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he puts his hand on her and like pushes her into the bushes. And
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Bravo cut that part, not the part where Kristin hits him, but the
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part where James puts his hands on Kristen. I don't know why Bravo did
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that, Okay, but Kristin has subsequently come out and said, and I
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paraphrase, that James is absolutely physically abusive and he hit me. And we
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also know that he spit on Kristin, which by the way also constitutes abuse
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of course, yeah, or assault and is abusive. But then there was
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this thing with Raquel, because of course, James and Raquel dated for quite
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some time, and during their dating, Raquel ended up getting a nose job.
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Okay, and she didn't in my opinion, need it, but like
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I feel like she's very much insecure, inherently patch and so yeah, so
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she went and she got this rhinoplasty. But then she had to get it
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again, like something had happened to her nose and she had to go back
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and get it like reset back in position. And the story at the time
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was that James accidentally tapped it. Well, now Raquel is coming out in
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the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four doing her own podcast and other podcasts,
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and she's sang that Moore had been going on behind the scenes between her
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and James, that she never spoke about it because she did not want to
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ruin James's life. She does not say directly that James hit her, but
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we all remember how James tapped her nose and she had to get surgery for
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it. And what would be so bad that it would ruin his life?
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It would have to be something pretty terrible. Oh yeah, something to get
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him super canceled. Yeah, and kicked off the shoe. Yes. And
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last, but at least, another thing that's been talked about in the last
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week to two weeks is this interview that Laala did about her sleeping with James,
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because they slept with each other, by the way, when James was
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with Raquel, yeah, and Laala was with Randall that turtle next Toad that
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I was telling you about that pickleball playing turtle neck toad hood. Yeah,
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when they were with other people, they slept together. But the way Laala
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found out about it is she woke up the next morning after having been blacked
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out, don't remember anything, have no idea what the fuck I was doing.
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The next morning, wakes up after being blacked out, Caesa used condom
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and she looks over at James and she's like, did we fuck? He's
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like, yeah, Babo, we fucked. Yike. And the interviewer at
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the time said something like, well, I mean that feels pretty problematic to
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me, Lala, and Laala's like, yeah, I don't blame him for
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that, like whatever, Okay, So she doesn't blame him, but I
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do, I mean a little bit. I mean that's I don't know if
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James James could have been blacked out too, Like I don't know obviously the
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whole situation. But they're friends now, They're very much friends, so and
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I think they support one another are in terms of the cast, like they're
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there for each other. But yikes, I just think when you look at
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it globally and all of the things that are being said about James Kennedy,
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I feel like, first of all, he's a fucking problem, and if
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it comes out to be confirmed that he has been physical, I think he
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needs to get fired off this show. Yeah, I think he needs to
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go, right, he has no place to be here. And I find
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it rich. And I know I'm filibustering, and I apologize, but I
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find it fucking rich that you're standing up screaming at sandbal who, by the
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way, is a piece of shit for sure, unequivocate, objectively unequivocated piece
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of shit. Yeah, but like, okay, you cheated, you hit
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people allegedly, Yeah, the way you talk to people is fucking toxic and
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abusive, like sit your ass down, thank you well, And like his
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excuse for it is because it was just the drinking and he was young,
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and he was a twenty year old. I don't care. But I don't
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hit people when I drink, do you know? But I don't drink,
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so I mean, but if you did, I don't think you would hit
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an. I think it has to be in your nature to do something like
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that. Yeah, I think so. But I think alcohol can influence people
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too, because I think alcohol brings out who you truly are. In vino
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veritas, I think it shows who you really are and it amplifies it.
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So I just I'm sorry, I just don't like James. And of course
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the highlight of this entire episode is his conversation with Sandoval. It is yeah,
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and Sandoval brings out some of the shit that he did before, and
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it is really not a good look for Sandoval, and it's just another example
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of Sandoval being absolutely unable to take any responsibility and just say I was wrong.
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Yeah. But at the same time, you know, James is a
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piece of shit and I'm gonna fucking stand on it. And I don't care
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if you guys are mad or not. Well, no, I mean it
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makes me change my opinion about him a little bit because last episode I was
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like, I kind of like him because I like his bold energy and he's
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very fucking like direct, going to call people out for being pieces of shit.
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But he's a piece of shit. But he's a piece of shit.
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Well, everybody's a piece of shit on this show. It seems like everybody's
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fucked up, Like everybody cheat, everybody drinks, everybody's fucking toxic, everybody's
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self centered. Katie doesn't cheat, well, no, she doesn't. I
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think she's the only one, right, I think she's the only one,
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but I mean she can be toxic too. She's kind of a main girl,
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right, Yeah, but I have been, like we all have been,
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and that's what makes us attracted to this cast is that they represent a
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lot of us, like flawed and all, but we love them to some
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degree. Yeah, it's like true reality TV. But I don't love James.
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No, it's gonna stand on that, all right. Okay, let's
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get into the episode, Toots. So we start off at Ariana and Sandoval's
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house, and if y'all recall, Sandoval returned last episode from his grueling reality
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TV show, She it was so hard, guys, don't even get it
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out. He's he literally says in this episode, it was the hardest thing
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of my life. Okay, really, that was the hardest thing of your
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life. Okay, dude, fucking loser. And he's talking about how he's
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dealing with all of the hate that he's getting. It's been really hard on
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him, and so he's been taking out that energy at the g which is
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a good thing, sure, but he's not doing it in a good way.
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He's just doing it just because he's superficial wants to look performing. It's
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all journey. And also keep in mind, at this point as he's filming,
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he thinks Raquel's coming back, because Raquel was in talks at this time
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to come back, Yes, negotiating I think the amount that she would make,
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but also like contemplating is it worth my fucking mental health to come back?
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So he's thinking she's coming back, And so a lot of this is
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for Raquel if you ask me, oh for sure, because even brings her
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up, he's like, I'm still very much in love with her. I
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hope that we can still give our relationship a real chance, and I think
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about her all the time. He says he stopped drinking for her because she's
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in a facility and she can't drink. Although he's literally drinking beers in this
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episode. They could be like zero alcohol beers. They look like alcoholing about
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it, but I don't know. He's just giving off this vibe like he's
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like, I'm working on improving in his redemption era and apology tour. Whatever.
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The best thing to me about this was his assistant Anne, who seems
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very demure and very sweet, timid at timid, but also just I mean,
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there's something about her that's just really sweet. She's working for Tom.
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I don't think she's working for Ariana, but she is acting as a mediator
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between Tom and Ariana. And Tom wants to have a birthday party. So
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the next day, he's turning forty fucking years old. Forty years old,
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elder millennial. He's an elder millennial. He's an elder statement statesman of reality
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TV. He's turning forty. He wants to have a he's turning forty.
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I know, actually, when you think about it, what that's a fucking
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huge milestone birthday. Like, that's a big party that you like have.
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If you're Tom Sandoval, you would have one hundred people, you would have
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a live fucking show, you'd have celebrities, a red carpet, a photo
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op. But he's got these weirdos, these rat knows that we've never seen
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before and never want to see again, at his dumb party because paid for
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extras. He's at the bottom, honey of the barrel. So he wants
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to have a party. Yeah, and he's telling Anna is the her name
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Anna? Anna? And can you talk to Ariana about this? Because you
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know what a party? Yeah, this is in my house yeah, I
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just want to use my house to party. And Anna was like, oh,
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I don't know if she's gonna like that, and he's like, that's
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fine, I'll send her to a fancy hotel. Yeah, whatever, it's
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great. And I was like, oh girl, And then Arianna shows up
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and and asks her whether she'd be open to maybe going to a nice hotel
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because it's thomas birthday and she's like, yeah, no, absolutely not.
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And if he brings a lot of people here, I'm gonna call the cops.
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Yeah, I'm gonna call the cops. I'm like, bitch, okay,
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I get it, like you want to be petty, and I'm kind
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of looking though it's kind of funny that she's being like that, like I'm
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gonna call the cops because I know how his parties have been in the past
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and I don't want to deal with that shit. And I'm like, that's
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I mean, I guess okay, but I get it. You bought a
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house with that guy. You bought a house with that guy. It's one
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night. You can't also get a fucking hotel or go and stay at Katie's
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house or something like that and be away for the night. It's not that
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big of a deal, but she's big, petty and I'm kind of here
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for it. Yeah, because she's gonna make it hard. Any moment of
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joy for him, She's gonna try to make that hard and he deserves that
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look and I love that. Now. What I wanted to ask you about
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was her treatment of Anne because online on social media, and I'd love to
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hear from you as well. She's getting some heat for how she spoke to
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Anne because some people felt like she was super condescending, like, hmm,
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I'm gonna exist in my house as they always do, think you and so,
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I mean there was a vibe of that to me, though I felt
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like that was definitely aimed at Tom, not Anne. Yeah, and also
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the cameras are there. She's saying that as a proclamation directed at Tom.
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Obviously it's gonna be filtered through Anne. Yeah, So I don't think she
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was trying to be mean to Anne. But at the same time, I
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can see how somebody might say, you could be nicer, Ariana. I
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mean, she could be nicer. She comes off very harsh, and I
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mean that's fine, Like she's in her like you say, boss girl era
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or mean girl era, big Dick energy Era and that's totally fine. But
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like Anne, I don't know if you noticed every time she texts Arianna in
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the show, like they zoom in on her texts to her, and she's
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always saying, Hi, I'm sorry to bother you. So is it okay
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if Tom has some friends of hers? So sorry? I know it's a
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lot sor sorry, Like she's always doing that and every message that was shown
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in this episode. So I'm like, well, do we think that's Anne's
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personality, which is demure in Timid and Mousie, or do we think that's
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because she's been groomed to be afraid of Arianna due to our outbursts from Ariana.
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As a chronic apologizer, myself is always like that because I'm a people
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pleaser, Yeah, and I don't want to rock the boat or upset people.
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I'm kind of in the habit of like always apologizing for being a perceived
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burden. So like, maybe part of that is Anne's personality, yes,
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But at the same time, I think arian is kind of intimidating. I
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think for somebody as timid and mousey as Anne, Arianna kind of scares her
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a little. Yeah, and she's a little harsh. So I think it's
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a bit of both. Yeah. I don't know that I would ask Ariana
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to change anything, though, and she was not to me, in my
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opinion, overtly rude to Anne. She's just like, no, thank you
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in my life, right, I don't I personally don't think she would be
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mean. I just don't think if she mean to well Sandoval though, in
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the relationship tas in point though, did you know that Anne has since stopped
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working for Tom Sandival and she has her own Instagram bit and she's posting on
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her own Instagram in cheerleading outfits with team Ariana. Oh yeah, I feel
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like maybe we can trust that Ariana wasn't terrible to her. She was just
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in a terrible position. And again, three months after Scandival, so Ariana
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is like just trying to figure out her bearings, right, and she's still
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fucking mad and pissed off, so and that's fair. And then at some
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point Sandoval's weird friend Jason comes over. Oh he's not even like a friend,
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he's his band manager. Okay. The only person that has to talk
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to him probably Tom t Actually, yeah, he pays to be in his
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life. Yes, So it's not like he can just cut him off.
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He comes over and acts like he's friends. He's like, hey, bro,
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what's up. And they're talking about like the party and everything, and
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of course Jason's being a total cuck and he's like, yeah, you deserve
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a party, sound of all? Like fuck, Arianna, was she gonna
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do? You call the police? They can kick you out of your own
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house, thank god? And that's true, but it's just like how far
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up Sandival's ass. He is? So he can be on TV and perceived
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as a man, but he's not a man well, and what's so weird
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to be is like to suggest of the man I know. I look at
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Sandbal, I'm like, why do these men like suck his dick so hard?
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Like I don't understand what I think he's cool. He's not. He's
23:07
so fucking lame. But men think things are cool that women don't think they're
23:11
cool, So we don't like men. I read some some reports a man
23:17
think that women think that Ryan Reynolds is the most handsome man in the world.
23:22
I mean, he's handsome, but not that I mean in a Jimmy
23:25
Stewart kind of like, women don't think that Ryan Reynolds is the most handsome
23:30
man in the whole world. Men have no idea. So I'm sure this
23:33
Jason guy with fucking approximation of the beard and his fucking gold chain and stuff,
23:40
I'm sure he's looking at Tom Sandoval as the ultimate man. He probably
23:44
is the alpha apex predator of a man. I want to be just like
23:48
him. I want to be around him all the time. I want to
23:51
get all the pussy that he gets. This is how I'm valid as a
23:56
human by being by him. It's just crazy to me. It's Tom needs
24:00
so badly. That's the sad thing is Tom doesn't have anybody, doesn't have
24:03
Schwartz, isn't anybody anymore that likes him. He needs constant hype men around
24:07
him, and he needs constant friends around him to make himself feel like he's
24:12
still liked and he's still popular and he's still the cool guy. And it's
24:17
kind of like so cringing, Like it gives me the vibe of like,
24:21
well, yeah, it's hella sad, but it gives me the vibe of
24:23
like the guy who peaks in high school. Yeah, like where they just
24:26
get older, and the older they get, the more washed up they get,
24:30
and the more they're still in their mind living in their senior year where
24:34
they were the quarterback for their high school team and they were so hot and
24:38
all the girls living like prom. You don't get it, prom king bitch.
24:44
I know, I pay my rails five, you work at the seven
24:48
eleven, you live with your mom, You have a fucking cover band.
24:53
Dude. Like one of the people that were that was at his birthday part
25:00
was his vocal coach. Did you see that? Yes, I did.
25:03
Brama put that on there. I was like, oh my thank you,
25:06
thank you producers. That is so embarrassed. That's his life. I know
25:10
that's his persona because he has nobody and like, you know, it would
25:12
speak volumes if he just fucking owned it. And he was like, yeah,
25:15
I'm just gonna have a lonely fortieth birthday because I fucked over all of
25:19
my friends and I fucked over my girlfriend of nine years and this is just
25:23
what I have to deal with. But I'm gonna try to be a better
25:26
person. No, you're gonna have a dumb fucking party with these weird fucking
25:30
friends. And he even says out loud with his own words and mouth,
25:33
I guess I do have friends. Haw, guys, I guess I really
25:37
do have friends like that. You have to say that makes me want to
25:41
cry for you and light a candle in the Catholic church. Maybe that's why
25:45
he got the white noise machine so he so Ariana can't hear him cry himself
25:48
decide, so he can drown out the thoughts, the intrusive thoughts that he
25:52
has in his head about what a loser he is. I can't listen do
25:55
it anymore. And then the cake comes that says Sandoval is a liar,
26:02
and he just it's the last fucking straw. You don't get it. You
26:06
don't get how hard it is to be me. Help. It's pathetic.
26:11
It's really great. The show is really great. And then we get to
26:15
Lala and Ariana getting smoothies, and this was kind of interesting only because Lala
26:21
is calling out Ariana for her bullshit, because Arianna is telling Lala like,
26:26
yeah, Tom wants to have a birthday party, but I told him no
26:29
because how dare he have people over to our house? Well, actually it's
26:33
my house, right, She acts like that, and Lala's like, who
26:37
cares? Why don't you just set a boundary. Also, legally, it's
26:41
his house and he can do what the fuck he wants to do a party
26:45
America, thank you, Like get over it, Ariana, and like,
26:48
why don't you just set a boundary and say, hey, can people just
26:51
be out by this time because I gotta do shit in the morning. And
26:53
Arianna is like, well and did text me after saying I'm sorry, yeah,
26:57
and suggests that maybe they could leave by midnight and that's fine, so
27:00
we'll do that. And Lala's like, well, why do you even want
27:03
to be there? Why doesn't make it make sense? Yes, it doesn't
27:07
make any sense, and like why do you even stay? And Ariana just
27:11
keeps coming up with, you know, excuses, and I mean, I
27:12
get it. It's a few months after Scandabal. It's hard, like how
27:15
do you fucking figure out where you're gonna go? And then you have this
27:18
fucking house that you guys bought together, which is a big mistake, and
27:22
you have all these things that you have to untangle and all of you.
27:23
You didn't just buy a house together, Beatrice. They they took out a
27:27
home equity loan on that house, which Ariana co signed so that Tom could
27:33
subsidize his really cool rock band. Are you serious? Yes, she co
27:38
signed a home equity line, which is like a second mortgage. It's a
27:42
mortgage on top of your primary mortgage, so that he could be a rock
27:48
star. Wow. Wow, See I mean things like that. When that
27:52
comes out, I'm like, I understand Arianna's pettiness. It's like she was
27:56
wanting to spend forever with this guy. Yeah, they got into a relationship
28:00
under kind of fucked up terms, but we were all young and the other
28:04
one many. Yeah. Well, and also I was thinking about it while
28:07
watching this episode, like she was with him for nine years. So yeah,
28:11
they got got together under terrible circumstances. But he was probably telling her
28:15
like I would never do that to you, and like sure, M one
28:18
and only. So she probably believed him because that's what you do when you're
28:22
digmatized and you're in love and you overlook some of the red flags. And
28:25
so I feel bad for Ariana because it's like you imagined living the rest of
28:30
your life with us. Why she could see him just like we could see
28:33
him. She could hear him just like we could hear him. She hated
28:37
him just like we hated him. A lot of the times. Yeah,
28:38
but he made the decision to take out a home equity line on her fucking
28:42
house and extend herself so he could be Tom sand of all and the most
28:47
actuals, like take some responsibility for your dumb decisions. For you should have
28:51
dumped him years ago. Tom, you should have dumped her years ago,
28:55
but she didn't. He didn't, and now she wants to be petty and
28:59
I I kind of like Laala saying, well, girl, you can't do
29:03
that because that's his house and he should be able to have a birthday party.
29:06
It doesn't matter anyway. And also he's just trying to get a rise
29:08
out of you. Why are you giving it to him exactly? Here's my
29:12
question, what do you think that Arianna and Laala like each other even remotely?
29:21
No? I think they are just fake friends for the camera. I
29:23
totally think this is a produced scene. I don't think Arianna wants to be
29:27
there. I think Ariana knows based on what happened in the last episode when
29:32
Laala said I talked to Raquale because I think somebody needs to be there for
29:36
her. I think Ariana's already over her. I think she's showing up because
29:41
she has to it's her job, but I think Ariana hates La La.
29:45
And at the end of the season, when we see Laala saying, how
29:48
do you become God? Just because somebody cheated on you? I think we're
29:52
seeing this fake relationship start to fall apart, which I live for me too,
29:56
truly, and then we get too oh you no. At the Smoothies,
30:02
they were talking about Ariana's new boyfriend, Dan, who's this forty year
30:07
old unicorn of a man who's never been married, never had kids, and
30:11
Laala asks her like, you know, are you changing your perspective on having
30:15
children? Arian is like, yeah, I think it depends on the person.
30:18
And so I guess you were saying that people are hating Ariana for changing
30:22
her mind, because I guess the whole entire time she was with Sandoval,
30:26
she's like, fuck, no, I would never have kids. They have
30:27
a flashback in this episode where they're like looking at a house or something,
30:30
and Ariana is like, I would never have a kid with him. Ever,
30:33
Sandoval's like, I want three or four of my mini me's running around
30:37
on the earth. Good lord, right, So why are people giving her
30:41
hate? Because why is she so willing to give this new guy that she's
30:47
known for two seconds, something that Tom asked for for nine years. Well
30:51
Tom sucks, then that's the answer. Honestly, that's the only answer.
30:55
Is because she was with Tom and she saw her partner, And if I
30:59
could project or speculate, I would say that she probably knew it would be
31:03
on her to take all of the emotional labor and all the physical fucking labor
31:06
with children, and she would be the one to take care of it as
31:08
he's off fucking touring and fucking all these bitches with his lightning fucking necklace thinking
31:14
he's the shit. So she knew that wasn't going to work. I think
31:17
there was also innate like aversion to children and maybe not wanting it. But
31:22
people change, that's true. And the thing is that people are allowed to
31:26
change. And women can make up their mind from moment to moment. They
31:30
have agency over the body and they can do that. So I think I
31:33
don't I don't think it's a fuck you to Tom as much it is as
31:37
it is uh Ariana realizing oh, other people exist that won't treat me like
31:44
that, right, and oh, like maybe I would want to have a
31:47
family with people like that. Maybe I could have an actual, genuine partner
31:51
that reciprocates the same energy that I have in So yeah, I think that's
31:55
fair, and I mean, like, girl, get it. Even she
31:57
is being called out on social media for that right now. Yeah, and
32:00
speaking of kids, we talked about last episode about how she and Tom fertilized
32:06
their embryos or whatever that they have. I guess that's wrong. I don't
32:09
know. Some people in the comments were like, yeah, they never happened,
32:12
Okay, chill, like it's and why are they fighting legally over it
32:15
though? And she says, my children, So maybe they did, and
32:17
maybe that'll come out in a season. Who fucking knows, who cares,
32:21
it's reality t E. I'm just like, I just wonder if that's the
32:24
case because of that preaky applied Yeah, it seems like it, but oh
32:29
my god, could you imagine that kind of a legal battle of having to
32:30
deal with the fertilized Gara had to do that with her ex husband. I
32:36
don't know anything about that. Yeah, it was a terrible battle. Is
32:38
it resolved? I think it is, Like I think she gained control over
32:42
her embryos, but he fertilized them and he wanted them because he wanted to
32:45
bring them into fruition and make babies so he could get child support from her
32:49
because she was the star. So it's a whole thing. I don't know
32:52
if her eggs were fertilized. I mean, I think that Bravo is trying
32:57
to get us to believe that they were, so they're going to fight about
32:59
it, but who knows, we'll see. I want the legal battle stuff
33:02
to be on this season. Dude, me too. I want to hear
33:06
all the tea, all of it, please please. Then we get to
33:08
some nothing Burger scene which is about Pump's closing party or whatever, which is
33:14
one of Lisa vander Pump's many restaurants. Oh yeah, she's having to close
33:17
down because it's too expansive. Kind is hard for everybody, haney. And
33:22
but this is one of her most famous bars. Like I think, yeah,
33:25
I think like vander Pump Rules. Pump Up Rules was a part.
33:30
Pump was a part of that. But the most important part of that scene
33:34
I think was her conversation with Tom Schwartz. Now, yes, because Schwartz
33:37
is talking about his resentment with Sandoval and like, how fucked up it was
33:40
that he just left him hanging dry with this fucking bar that they spent so
33:45
much money and so much time and effort making, and then after scanival happens,
33:50
Sandoval decides to go on tour with his dumb band and just leave Schwartz
33:52
to handle everything. Hold in the bag, honey. And Lisa vander Pump
33:57
has some weird fucking take with this, and in her talking head she's like,
34:00
well, I think Schwartz is, you know, being kind of hard
34:01
on Sandbaal and that he shouldn't be blaming him one hundred percent for the downfall
34:06
of Schwartz and Sandy's. And I'm like, how, what the fuck?
34:08
It's because of scannedal Ball that people were leaving all those fucking terrible reviews and
34:14
people stopped going, I think, to the restaurant, although I think a
34:16
lot of people also did go to the restaurant because of the notoriety of it.
34:21
But to hear Tom Schwartz tell it, like they struggled very much so
34:27
and they were losing staff. Tom leaves to go on tour and we'll talk
34:30
about that and whether that is a viable option. And Tom Schwartz, who
34:35
really doesn't have any experience in this business, other than what he's picked up
34:37
by osmosis from being on the show, Like, is having to figure everything
34:43
out with his curmudgeon of a partner. Yeah, because they have another partner.
34:46
It's not just Tom and Tom, it's this other dude. Ugh,
34:49
I see. I feel bad for Tom Schwartz, but he has to open
34:52
his fucking mouth. He seems to be okay with opening his fucking mouth against
34:57
Katie and not stick up for Katie. I wonder why because he's in the
35:04
boys club because he's gay. I didn't mean that, but like he's always
35:13
ridden, ride or die for Tom Sandival and used to be Jax Taylor,
35:15
Like it was those guys. They were together no matter what. Rose before
35:21
Hose and he took that into his marriage and that's why his marriage failed.
35:24
So now he's in this really interesting position I think where he's gonna have to
35:28
stand on his own two feet. You want to be a man, be
35:30
a fucking man. Now you don't have a wife who's going to take care
35:32
of it for you. Now your friend is off touring and leaving you to
35:36
take care of everything else. Now what, Tom Schwartz, what are you
35:38
going to do? And the thing is I listened to the entire Vile Files
35:45
podcast with Tom and Tom and Tom Schwartz has not changed unfortunately, Like I
35:52
think producers are trying to make us think that he has changed and he's going
35:55
to stick it to Sandival, but he is not. In this interview that
35:58
took place in January, so last month, twenty twenty four, Tom Schwartz
36:01
is running interference for Sandoval. He's answering questions for Sandoval. He's so annoying
36:08
Sandoval's representative and attorney, just sucking his dick. Why just deep throat in
36:15
that shit. It's so cringe to me, Like why, Like if James
36:19
and Sandoval were apparently such best friends, and James can sit there and call
36:22
him out on his shit and be like fuck you dude, like I don't
36:25
want anything to do with you, why can't Schwartz just like grow a pair
36:28
and do the same thing. I don't know, like call him out on
36:30
a step. It's because he's a libra. It's because he's got so much
36:32
libra in him, Okay, And according to Ali, yeah yeah he does.
36:37
I mean we looked at his bridge. It's like he's got so much
36:38
libra and that's not a bad thing. I do love a libra. I
36:42
mean, libras are great. It's just sometimes you open the door to be
36:46
walked on over. You're spineless. Yeah, sometimes you're for it. Yep.
36:51
So he needs to get a fucking grip in my penee. And then
36:54
we get to Sheena and Brock at that freaking dumbass recording studio whatever with her
37:00
emo stuff. It's bad, Her music's bad. The flashback to her music
37:05
video in twenty nineteen, which I need to watch, looks like softcore porn.
37:08
What are so terrible? She had a song back in twenty nineteen and
37:13
that guy that was in that music video worked at I think Tom. Tom
37:16
was saying Brett something like that, and she had a crush on him and
37:20
he was just like not into her. Was she dating Brock at this time?
37:22
No, she's not. She was trying to date this guy. He
37:25
didn't want anything to do with her except to bang her, and so she
37:29
featured him in her video and it was fucking terrible. And you even hear
37:32
Shina say in her talking head like I'm not the best singer. Yeah,
37:37
And after that video, I'm like out because this is not working for me.
37:40
So we stayed out, focused on other stuff. So now she's back
37:45
in the studio. It's my redemptions, my return, and she's doing is
37:50
it good as Gold again? I just don't know. Everything's bad emo thing?
37:54
Well, she thinks it's emo music because she's screaming into the my terrible
37:58
and it's just really crazy. But boxing does he time in a studio.
38:05
I love seeing my wife in her element. Why do you have to be
38:07
there? Why do you have to be everywhere that Sheena is? Why can't
38:12
you go fucking figure out your own shit, get your own fucking business going?
38:15
You weirdo? Maybe he's cheating, dude, Like I said, am
38:19
I being too toxic? No? I'm sorry, I hate him. I
38:22
mean he seems like an asshole. Get up off her for real. Then
38:25
we get to Sandoval meeting up with Schwartz. He brings him those shoes as
38:30
a like peace offering or that covers it, like no problem, Yeah,
38:35
okay, sorry for abandoning you with her business that we went in together.
38:38
Here's some shoes because I'm such a good friend, right, And you can
38:43
tell Schwartz has so much resentment, so much anger for Sandoval, and he
38:49
starts to talk about it a little bit because Sandoval's like, what you mad
38:52
at me? And Schwartz is like, yeah, dude, you fucking left.
38:54
You went on tour and then he went on a dumb ass reality show
38:58
and you left me alone to deal with your mess and your bullshit. You
39:01
don't understand. I mean, it's been really hard for me, Like I
39:05
had to go to this bootgam show and I was just like, we're the
39:07
the ardest, the artiest thing I've ever noted the whole life. What about
39:09
me? Do you understand how art is for me? Like absolute no ability
39:17
to take responsibility to like pause, even just for a second, take a
39:22
breath, my guy, and introspect to say, you know what, that
39:24
was shitty. Let me just apologize and not make an excuse, not even
39:28
one excuse. He does not know how to do that. He's a sufferable.
39:36
It's similar to Cody Brown, like can't ever take any accountability for a
39:39
fucked up bullshit and you give half ass apologies of like, well, I'm
39:43
sorry I didn't text you, I'm sorry I didn't follow up with you at
39:46
all. I'm sorry you need me so much, gosh, but are you
39:49
still on my side though we still back me up. Why did you go
39:52
on Jack's podcast and talk shit about me? Why do you say that fucking
39:54
thing to my face? Because you weren't here, because you were gone,
39:57
because you were on tour in New Zealand, as you would to New Zealand.
40:00
Because I've been doing fucking work making up for your absence, dealing with
40:05
every rap. Fuck you, dude, And Schwartz says at the end,
40:09
because Sandoval's like, well, are you gonna back up with me? Are
40:12
you gonna be with me or not? And Schwartz is like, I'm gonna
40:15
do me. I'm gonna do it's best for me, which is a lie.
40:16
Though I know he's got no spy. He's doing that for the camera.
40:22
It makes me so mad. He goes into the next month and again
40:24
into this year, still advocating for Tom Sandival, and look, Tom Sandival,
40:29
I'm not saying he's irredeemable. And I've told you I liked there have
40:31
been seasons he's my favorite in the whole. I don't understand, Tom Schwartz.
40:37
Would you please get your own spine, would you get your own mouth,
40:40
would you get your own purpose? Grow up, grow pair, dude,
40:45
Like I just don't understand. And this is what makes me realize that
40:47
Katie was right about everything in the last reunion, because you know, I've
40:51
only seen season ten. Yell, I'm not gonna watch all the rest of
40:53
the season. They're very good. I probably should. Maybe I'm a free
40:57
time, but it's gonna take me some time to get all the content.
41:00
But anyway, Katie last reunion was talking about how Schwartz just never could defend
41:06
her, never take her side, never be there for her for as his
41:09
wife. And it's obvious now, like I'm just watching all this shit,
41:13
like you're saying all this crap Schwartz about how you're gonna do you and take
41:16
care of you, which you should. You should fucking worry about you for
41:20
once, and stop caring about everybody else, like take care of your fucking
41:23
plants. Stop sucking side All's dick, like he's this cool dude and you
41:28
want to bow down him, like he's so fucking cool. He sucks.
41:30
He also always has to have an alliance, and so to see him go
41:35
over to James and Alley's house, I know, and I'm like to get
41:37
his charred chart red, which I think is very cool, but like what
41:42
are you doing? And I felt that way last week when he sat down
41:45
with James, who, by the way, is very problematic and he knows
41:46
James is problematic, and James was super cruel and awful to him last season,
41:51
like why are you sitting down with this guy after that reunion and he
41:54
screamed at you, like, because you need an ally, you can't stand
41:58
on your own. And it's similar to how Sandoval needs friends and needs people
42:01
around them, needs hype men. Schorts is the same way. Maybe that's
42:05
why they get along and they fucking are symbio joined to each other, and
42:09
that's why maybe they had some gay experiences together. Okay, I'm thinking,
42:13
all right, gay theories and conspiracies. I'm just gonna gay fantasies. I'm
42:16
just gonna get it's fantasized together in a gay way. I could see it
42:22
and it probably would be sexy. Yeah, I mean not to me,
42:24
but you know, like some gay guys would probably be like, yeah,
42:28
you like male gay porn? No, I don't. I bet you do.
42:30
No, you know who does? I shouldn't say it, I know,
42:35
I know. Anyway, next see anyway, fancy Ali and James's house
42:39
Allie's reading Schwartz's chart, which I would have snored. I would have liked
42:45
to hear more about the astrology snoring. But Sandoval texts James and that gets
42:51
interrupted and Sandoval's like, hey, dude, I'm having a bday party.
42:54
Can you come? And James is like, Okay, I guess I'll show
42:59
up and then get to Tom's birthday party with all of his fake friends,
43:02
menagerie of weirdos and Rando coach, some Rando extras like that guy who walked
43:09
up to James. What was that guy's name? He walked up to James
43:14
and he's like, Yeah, I've been meaning to talk to you because like,
43:16
after everything that happened, like Katie has pushed me out of the friend
43:19
group. In James, It's like what and your name is? I mean,
43:22
who might you be? Although I was reading on the slipbird it's funny
43:27
you're always on them, always on the reddits, and they were saying that
43:30
this person has been in the periphery of the entire friend group and after scandal
43:36
happened, he actually came out against Katie and maybe Arianna and like did Instagram
43:43
Real stories lives talking mad shit about them class is a piece of yeah,
43:49
is a cloud goblin and is a piece of shit. And so it's very
43:52
funny to me that the producer showed that, I mean him going up to
43:55
James, who does not give a shisiness. James doesn't even look at him.
44:00
Dude, I'm here to talk to Tom, I'm here to produce a
44:04
moment with the peasant with your weird shirt. Fuck away from me, Like
44:07
yikes, Yeah, if that were me, I would be so embarrassed.
44:12
Dude. I would. I would change my name, would change my hair
44:16
color. I would move to Montana, I would start a horse branch,
44:20
I would get the fuck out of West Hollywood. Real, wow, how
44:23
embarrassing. Well, then eventually James tries to get Santa Baltic and talk to
44:30
him. Santaval keeps just like blowing him off. It's so weird because he
44:31
doesn't want to have the conversation where he has to take responsibility for any of
44:35
his Actually it's be too hard. But James ultimately is like, come on,
44:37
let's go sit out and talk about this. And James is like,
44:40
so you owe me an apology. You betrayed me, I betrayed you house
44:47
so well, you christ slept with my ex girlfriend who I was engaged to.
44:54
No, no, no, this is James. He didn't say this.
44:58
I'm speaking for him. You slept with my ex girlfriend who at the
45:00
time I was engaged too. That I loved that. You fucking helped me
45:05
propose to her. You paid twenty five thousand dollars at your own pocket,
45:07
Tom sand of all, so I could propose this girl in a wonderful fashion,
45:12
and then you fucked her. And that's terrible. So, yeah,
45:15
you did betray me. Even though I'm with Ali and I love her and
45:19
I've up leveled, that's still a problem for me. And instead of Tom
45:23
saying you're right, yeah, he just says that was awful. What about
45:29
you fucking Kristin yep, which ten years previous? Please elaborate on this because
45:34
I feel like if this was ten years ago, they would have passed all
45:37
of this shit out by now they to, Well, they did, and
45:38
that's kind of That's kind of James's point in the after show. He's like,
45:43
but we've gone on to have all these experiences become really good friends.
45:46
I mean, and if it didn't bother you five years ago, three years
45:51
ago, one year ago, why are you bringing it up now? Right?
45:53
Relevant? But ten years ago is when Tom was with Kristin. They
46:00
were in a relationship. Kristin was cheating on Tom with Jacks and other people.
46:02
It was terribly wow. Okay, and yeah, yeah, so great.
46:07
You really got to go back and watch those early seasons. Okay.
46:09
And then Tom, I think, was cheating with Arianna as well. But
46:14
so Tom and Kristen break up, but he's friends with James, and in
46:17
fact, James is a bit of an outcast. He's not well liked by
46:21
the rest of the OG crew, most of which are not there anymore.
46:24
He's on the outskirts. But Tom and Arianna take James in and also Lalla
46:30
by the way, and so they're friends. But James ends up fucking Kristen
46:36
after they broke up, after everybody's broken up, who cares and fucking him
46:42
fucking Kristen on Tom Sandoval's bed, I guess, which is a big deal.
46:45
I don't know, whatever, and then proceeds to go into a relationship
46:49
with Kristen. So James and Kristen enter into a relationship with Tom, which
46:52
Tom knows and doesn't really seem to have a problem with at the time,
46:58
okay, And so that's what Tom is using weaponizing in the current moment to
47:02
say to James, Well, but yeah, I fucked your girlfriend after you
47:07
broke up, but didn't you fuck my girlfriend after we broke up? So
47:09
why are you so pressed? Well? And is that the only betrayal that
47:14
James is referring to when he says, like you that was like the ultimate
47:16
betrayal, because James also talks about how he was pissed off that Sandoval just
47:21
ousted him from the group for like the last six months of him and Raquel's
47:25
affair and like gasol at him and treated him like shit. So like,
47:30
I don't know what the context of that is. Yeah, I don't know.
47:31
I don't really remember Tom ousting James that which I don't remember that to
47:37
be the case, but I may maybe I was not paying attention. I
47:39
think the bigger point that Tom is trying to make is that you're being a
47:43
fucking hypocrite. This is exactly what you did to me. Yeah, and
47:46
James, and rightly so I think it's just like I'm not even listening to
47:51
what you're saying. I'm getting up, I'm getting myself up out of here.
47:53
Because you are unwilling to admit that what you did was wrong. That's
47:58
based. I mean, it's freaking stupid. It was ten years ago.
48:00
Like, I get it if it hurt, But like I was watching this
48:04
twice and I'm like, send of all, this has been hashed out,
48:07
Like this had to have been hashed out the last ten years. Why are
48:09
you bringing up old shit? Well? And I'm like, were any of
48:13
us the same people ten years ago? Absolutely not. So I'm just like
48:16
I would be so frustrated if I was James, and so he just gets
48:20
the fuck up and leaves. At the same time, though, what okay.
48:23
At the same time, what I from a meta global position, I
48:28
can say, but James, you do shady shit. You did shady shit
48:31
to him as your friend sleeping with his ex. You did shady shit because
48:36
you slept with Laala when you were with Raquel and she was just somebody else.
48:39
You are shady too, And that's the point I think Tom is trying
48:44
to make. It is an ill timed point. It's germane. I mean,
48:47
it's true, right. I think the right thing to do if you
48:51
want to salvage your relationship with James is to say I was wrong, period,
48:54
point blank. And here's what I'm doing to get better, and I'm
48:57
sorry. I want a relationship with you, and this, this is how
49:00
I'm going to demonstrate to you that I'll never do that again. Right.
49:04
I just think like the whole reason why Sandoval's even bringing it up though,
49:07
is not to call out James's hypocrisy, but it's to just take the heat
49:09
off of it, to deflect because he just doesn't want to. He can't
49:13
take it. And I mean, I get it, like you received a
49:15
shitload of hate. I mean, you lost all of your brand deals and
49:19
stuff, and like your life was rude. But that's all at your own
49:21
hand, Sandoval, Like, so I don't know what you expected. I
49:24
really don't know what you expected. You should have just broke it off with
49:28
our art, yeah, and then got with Raquel right after. That's fine
49:31
whatever. I mean, that would have still been problematic, but you could,
49:35
at least in integrity, exactly addressed it. But the way you did
49:40
it with lying and again, let me remind you. Raquel has said in
49:45
podcasts in twenty twenty four that Tom Schwartz and his apartment was a safe place
49:50
for them to meet in rendezvous and fuck that and fuck and hang out so
49:53
lame. Yeah, So I'm just saying he knew what he was doing.
50:00
I wonder if Schwartz is gonna start getting hate for that, Like, why
50:01
hasn't anybody been calling him out for that? Because Raquel only said that last
50:06
month, and so they've been filming since May have last year. That's gonna
50:08
be in the reunion. Maybe maybe I think Tom is a fucking liar.
50:13
Yeah, I think Tom is covering. I think he's covering for Tom Sandival,
50:15
but he's also covering for himself. And what a fucking duplicitous piece of
50:19
shit he is. One percent. Yeah, So after James leaves because Sandoval's
50:23
being a narcissistic piece of shit, even though Sandoval calls James a narcissist on
50:28
the way out, go ahead and leave. I've got all these friends here.
50:30
I don't need you yet, so many friends. I don't even notice
50:32
it. You're gone. And then James goes outside and peas on his bush,
50:36
which I thought was great. I laughed, and Alie's like, it's
50:38
also Arianna's bush. I thought that was cute, and I liked how Ariana
50:42
or not Arina? I liked how Ali didn't go in because she didn't want
50:45
to have any conflict of interest because she does value her relationship with right Arianna.
50:51
And I'm like, very loyal. I like Alie. I like her
50:53
too. With James. Maybe she's changing him. Maybe she's good for him.
51:00
That's possible. People can change, people can get better from physical abusing.
51:05
Okay, well, but I mean if he was a drunk, like
51:07
I mean, I don't know. We'll see, we'll see. I don't
51:10
have any I don't have any faith because I've heard so many bad things about
51:14
James. But I'm just saying, like, maybe Allie's good for her.
51:17
Let me hear that he puts his hand on Ali. If he does,
51:22
please, motherfucker. No, she's so sweet. I mean, for somebody
51:27
so young to have such a good head on her shoulders, to be able
51:30
to give a reading to Tom Schwartz and be like her, this is your
51:34
path forward. I feel like you're stuck, like I just she's great.
51:37
Yes, she should be else, I know, James, but it is
51:42
what it is. Yep, We'll see how it goes. And that's pretty
51:45
much the end of the episode. It says to be continued. Okay,
51:47
well, of course, I mean I'm excited for it, me too,
51:51
but yeah, good episode. A lot of people, I guess, we're
51:52
saying this was boring, and I'm like, I love this show. I
51:55
don't know why that would be. I'm watching the after show and let me,
51:59
let me, let's get to the after show a little bit. And
52:00
I never watch after shows. I never watched anything extras of anything like sure
52:06
married at first. I'd always had those after interviews and I'm like, God,
52:08
snooze. But I was watching that after show and I'm like, this,
52:12
shit, is anything in that after show that you find particularly in tees?
52:16
Yeah, Ariana and Tom's finances and shit, right exactly. So last
52:21
episode we were talking about little Sandoval Ye going on The Vile Files, right
52:28
and saying that he offered to buy Ariana out of their house, and he
52:32
actually offered more than what the house was worth what they bought it three point
52:36
one million, and then in this after show, she's saying that was a
52:39
measly sum of money, right, Well, I believe no. The more
52:46
interesting part to me was when she was asked whether she's paying the mortgage payments,
52:52
because what Tom Sandival is saying is that she has not paid her mortgage
52:54
payments for eight months or something like that, nor has she paid any of
52:59
the bills. And in the after show, Arianna saying, yeah, well,
53:02
I need an itemized accounting for exactly what I'm paying. And he has
53:07
not given that to me. I've asked three times and Tom is like,
53:10
well, it's the Spectrum bill. There it is. I mean, she
53:15
can see exactly what's coming out of my account and so she knows what I'm
53:17
paying. And Ariana's like, yeah, I need a different kind of an
53:22
accounting for the bills in order for me to pay. So what I thought
53:25
was very interesting about that was how shady Ariana was. You think she's shady,
53:34
Well, insofar as she's not paying him for the mortgage, she's not
53:38
paying him for her half of the bills. Like you, I mean,
53:42
maybe you don't have the exact amount of the mortgage, Like the mortgage is
53:45
five thousand dollars. Maybe you don't know the exact it's five thousand, seven
53:47
hundred and twenty three dollars, but you know it's around five thousand dollars.
53:52
You know that you are a legal owner of this home. You know that
53:54
you are partaking of the bills, and you know that they need to get
53:58
paid, so you should at least be ten during some form of payment consistently
54:01
until such time as the accounting is tendered to you. So she's playing shitty
54:07
games. Yeah, But at the same time, what I thought was really
54:10
interesting Beatrice was when she said that they refinanced their home in like twenty twenty
54:16
one, when the rates were so fucking good. I had the same thing.
54:20
They were terrific. And when before they refinanced, the mortgage payment was
54:24
coming out of their joint account. Right after they refinanced, that payment came
54:30
out of Tom's account only, which is weird, which means she can't see
54:35
it either. So just know exactly what that payment is, which is the
54:37
basis of her claiming she doesn't have to pay him anything, which I think
54:40
is wrong. But I mean, go off, queen. If you can
54:43
get away with it, do it. My thing is when they refinanced that
54:47
home loan, did she get her name off the mortgage? Is her name
54:52
still on the deed right because she owns it, right, but maybe off
54:57
the mortgage because they refinanced did under his name? He took the mortgage,
55:01
So is that a good or bad thing. It's actually a good thing because
55:05
that means she still owns it but doesn't isn't legally responsible to pay for it.
55:09
Oh if she's still how funessed that that's smart? I would be like
55:16
a queens fantastic. I love that. Well. See, my takeaway was
55:22
like this whole thing, I'm thinking Sandoval's been lying to her because she says
55:25
something like she doesn't know the real mortgage payment because she found out the payments
55:30
that she has been making to Sandoval that he told her to make were actually
55:35
over payments and so he wasn't telling her actually how much. But she knows
55:39
she has to pay something, right, I mean, she knows she has
55:42
to pay something, but if she was paying significant overpayments, she's probably like,
55:46
you had all of the secondary seventy five dollars over payment? Do we
55:51
know? Who knows? Nobody knows. I don't know, But I wouldn't
55:53
put it past Sandoval to be trying to get more money out of her,
55:58
because he's a broke gas hoe who doesn't have any brand deals anymore, does
56:01
not like she does, not like she does, And he said early in
56:05
this episode he so fucking broke that he had to go on tour, and
56:07
I had to move like five hundred dollars from this account. It's over his
56:09
account, so I could pay my mortgage. You don't even know how hard
56:13
it is. So for me, that's my thing, is like I wouldn't
56:15
put it past him to be lying, and it's their finances just sound super
56:20
messy, and I would just love to see all the Oh my god,
56:22
yeah, just like in the books. Oh please. I hope, like
56:23
Emily D. Baker covers some of the legal stuff if it actually gets crazy.
56:28
If it does, I don't know if it will. Probably I think
56:30
it all sounds like on The Vile Files. Tom Schwartz, advocating for Tom
56:35
Sandoval, was saying that they're in the process now of selling I think,
56:38
selling the house and trying to come up with what they're going to sell it
56:40
for. They're trying to settle that issue now through the lawyers, so I
56:45
don't know that it's going to like go to trial. I think it's being
56:49
handled. Yeah, And I did think it was interesting because Katie's with Arianna
56:53
during this whole after show, and Katie asks her like, do you have
56:57
proof? Do you have statements to pull up that show that you have been
57:01
paying him money, and Oran is kind of skirting around yet and she's like,
57:06
well, it's all in his name, so I just have proof that
57:09
I've sent him random amounts of money. And I'm like, that's fine,
57:12
huh, Like that's weird. It was very sketchy to me. But she
57:16
has a lawyer, yeah, and so I presume she's consulting with her lawyer.
57:22
Yeah, And whatever she's doing is within the scope of what her lawyer
57:24
said she could do. I don't think she's a dumb woman, So maybe
57:29
she's just fucking with him within the confines of what is legal to do.
57:31
And you know what Tom deserves that he does deserve it you fucked everybody over,
57:37
dude, and you're like trying to get her out of the house by
57:39
buying her out, which I think is pretty fucked up personally because I'm just
57:43
like, you don't fucking deserve that. You don't deserve this house after you
57:46
fucking ruined our life together. But I built the gym myself, a paid
57:50
for fuck I put in the solar panels, suck my ass. I think
57:53
he's I think he's put in a lot of money well to design the house
57:59
the way that I I feel like he's gonna take a loss because it's not
58:01
gonna ever be dollar for dollar. The dollar in that he puts into his
58:05
gym is not gonna be the dollar out that he gets for it. So
58:07
I think he's worried about like the investments that he has made in the physical
58:13
home, which he's going to lose because she's gonna sell it. Find out
58:17
yep, I can sell it in a bad market for sure, and you're
58:21
gonna take a loss. And I'm sorry, but if you're gonna fuck her
58:22
best friend and lie about it, these are the things that happen. That's
58:27
what happens, my dad. It's terrible, but like you brought it on
58:30
yourself, yep. And now he's just gonna have to watch everything crumble.
58:35
And it's It's interesting because earlier in this episode, I know this is like
58:38
random, but it just made me think of it. Schwartz. When he
58:42
goes over to Ali and James's house, he talks about how he's bitter because
58:45
they own a house, and he's like, I lost everything, Yeah,
58:49
I lost my house, And I'm like, Sandoval is on the way to
58:52
that. Sandoval is about to lose a lot of his shit, and I
58:54
think he's gonna get better too, and just be like pissed off because now
58:59
he's gonna have to get some apartment in West Hollywood or wherever ingright, like
59:04
Rob, He's probably gonna have to rent some fucking shitty ass place because you
59:07
fucked around, dude, And like that's Ariana also talk about like that too,
59:12
Like if I leave my house now, I'm gonna have to rent somewhere
59:15
in veto and the rents are not what they were in twenty twenty one.
59:17
Yeah, it costs a lot of money, Like why would I do that?
59:21
Same applies for Satan Deval and same applies for Schwartz, Like both of
59:23
them are going to have to pay rents and those rents are going to be
59:28
high. Now you get to feel what everyone else feels. This is what
59:31
it is, my friend, have fun. You see if you fuck a
59:37
round, I'm gonna find out perfect illustration of that. So good, I'm
59:43
loving it. I'm glad you're loving it. I'm so excited for like every
59:45
new episode, I'm just like, yes, you know what I heard.
59:50
Way way, there's gonna be a Love is Blind season six. I watched
59:53
the trailer. Does it look good because last season kind of looked myth?
59:58
Well, I watched last season with some Yeah, it was just saying it
1:00:00
could have been better, but it looks kind of interesting. Yes, it
1:00:05
might be something that we should come for on the bed. Yes, would
1:00:08
y'all raccoons want to see it on the Love is Blind? Are you guys
1:00:10
into that? Yes? No, what's up? Let us know in the
1:00:14
comments? Well, we're always looking for some trashy TV too. We're so
1:00:17
hungry. And speaking of hungry, better believe I'm going to be watching that.
1:00:24
Did you watch that trailer? I watched that trailer. But I'm sorry,
1:00:30
I'm sorry, Jesus, I'm okay, But I mean human being.
1:00:32
I love when I have somebody falling, falling out of their chair or falling
1:00:39
like into the into the ground. I'm just like, I love that moment
1:00:43
for myself personally. Yes, And then they're always crying so loud about it.
1:00:46
I'm just like, it does it hurt? It sounds like it hurts.
1:00:50
Of course I'm a terrible person. Is that should to block this out?
1:00:53
Should this be uncensored? No, I'm just saying that's why anybody watches
1:00:57
my six hundred pald life for sure. We actually had some raccoons dm us
1:01:01
on Instagram and they're like, is it terrible that I love watching my six
1:01:06
and our pound life while eating a lot of food, And I'm like,
1:01:07
no, that's literally what d and I do, exactly what I do.
1:01:12
It's always like the worst kind of food, Like, give me nachos bel
1:01:15
grande. Yeah, and my lives. I'm here for it one hundred percent,
1:01:19
even if they're pooping the bed. I'm okay, I can eat those
1:01:22
nachos. It's fine. It's so delicious. Twenty twenty four is looking good?
1:01:28
Yes, girl for us in the dumb store? So much trash?
1:01:30
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