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O-Zone Podcast: Josh Jones · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the ozone podcast, presented by by Star Credit Union,
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Speaker 1: featuring Jaguars senior writer John Osier and executive producer Dave
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Speaker 1: de Candice. Our guests this week is I think somebody
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Speaker 1: if the Jaguars fans don't know very well yet. I
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Speaker 1: don't know him very well yet, but it's Jaguars safety
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Speaker 1: Josh Jones, who many people know made the team. Uh
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Speaker 1: won a starting job during training camp by beating out
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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison, who was eventually traded. It was a surprise story,
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Speaker 1: but from talking to coaches, personnel people, a very deserved
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Speaker 1: story and once you watched him, not much of a surprise.
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Speaker 1: First of all, welcome and give me your first impressions
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Speaker 1: of Jacksonville in this COVID world. Has it been an
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Speaker 1: odd transition for you? You know what? Um? Uh, COVID
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Speaker 1: in general has been off for everybody. I feel like
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Speaker 1: this year, but UM, to be honest, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: you kind of get used to get in a routine,
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Speaker 1: and you kind of get used to doing everything you
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Speaker 1: know with the test and obviously and the protocols, so
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Speaker 1: it's kind of normal now. You just wake up just
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Speaker 1: like how you wake up and brush it to you.
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Speaker 1: You notice you have everything, every protocol to go through it,
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Speaker 1: so it's normal and you know, I feel like I'm
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Speaker 1: I'm well adjusted to it. There's so much to get
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Speaker 1: to with your story. And I know there's a lot
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Speaker 1: that you've gone through in terms of getting and if
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Speaker 1: I love for the game back, but an appreciation. You've
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Speaker 1: talked about that a lot. But I want to ask
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Speaker 1: you first. Everything you've heard from coaches who have talked
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Speaker 1: about you, is that somehow when you first got here
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Speaker 1: back in January, you managed to make such an impression
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Speaker 1: in terms of how serious you were gonna be taking
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Speaker 1: this moving forward. You signed as a practice squad guy
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Speaker 1: last year. What did you do When did you realize
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Speaker 1: how much you had to turn it on in that spect?
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Speaker 1: If you if you fall, well, you know, I understand
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Speaker 1: my abilities. UM. And I feel like the worst thing
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Speaker 1: you can do with you know, god given talent um
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Speaker 1: is wasted. UM. And I feel like, once you have
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Speaker 1: an opportunity that presents itself, UM, you have to take
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Speaker 1: full advantage of it. UM. You have to do everything
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Speaker 1: in your power you know, UM to seize that to
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Speaker 1: to seize that opportunity. UM. And I feel like that
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Speaker 1: was my that was my whole mindset going into this year. Um,
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Speaker 1: I said that this if the Jaguards, they give me
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Speaker 1: an opportunity, and I'm just gonna roun with and I
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Speaker 1: want to look back and um, you know, and I
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Speaker 1: think Coach Maron and I think I think the person there,
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Speaker 1: I think you know, Mr call Off bringing me in,
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Speaker 1: you know, and just you know, giving me an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to be a part of this team. Uh. Like I'm
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Speaker 1: beyond thankful, you know, because obviously I could have been
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Speaker 1: anywhere else. Um probably you know, I don't I don't
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Speaker 1: know where I could have been. But I'm just I'm
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Speaker 1: just thanking for the opportunity. Um. And you know, just
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Speaker 1: continue to just keep pressing. Bow. Take me through your process.
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Speaker 1: You're with Green Bay and then you're out of football
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Speaker 1: for three or four weeks before you signed with Dallas
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Speaker 1: last year, and you talked extensively about it, and you know,
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Speaker 1: you buried your soul with it a little bit on
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Speaker 1: the conference call. But it was fascinating that you really
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Speaker 1: realized during that time, Hey, I've got to change a
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Speaker 1: little bit. I've got to approach this thing differently. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, with with a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: People can point the finger, you can say it was
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Speaker 1: this person's part or best person fault. But at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, you wake up every morning, you
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Speaker 1: look yourself in the mirror. So a lot of times
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Speaker 1: you have to look yourself in the mirror, um the
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Speaker 1: guy in the mirror, and never a lot to you.
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Speaker 1: So you have to go back and go back to,
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Speaker 1: you know, so where it all started. And that's what
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Speaker 1: I did. You know, I went back, you know where
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Speaker 1: it all started, Like how did I get myself here?
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Speaker 1: And and and that's and and that was not saying
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Speaker 1: that I didn't do that when I got to the NFL,
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Speaker 1: but it was just like I have to rewire my focus, rewired,
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Speaker 1: you know how I you know how I just went
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Speaker 1: about my day every day, you know, just being just
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Speaker 1: being consistent. I truly believe that if you have a
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Speaker 1: consistent approach with anything in life We're just not talking
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Speaker 1: about football, with anything in life, that you're gonna you're
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Speaker 1: gonna succeed. You know, you can't be all over the
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Speaker 1: place with you know, things that you do in your
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Speaker 1: everyday life. I feel like if you have a consistent approach,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, your routine, because I'm
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Speaker 1: a routine guy. I have to have a routine, and
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Speaker 1: I have to be on schedule. I have to Okay,
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Speaker 1: I have to do this at this time, this, this,
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Speaker 1: this and that, um and and and once. Once you
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Speaker 1: have those things, and and obviously if your faith is
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Speaker 1: in lined up and everything else just falls into place,
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Speaker 1: and then it's just up you. God just leaves it
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Speaker 1: up to you. In my head, son, go go take
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Speaker 1: over the keys and go drive this thing. So you
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Speaker 1: come into Jacksonville with a renewed attitude. I think that's
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Speaker 1: the right way to say it. You have a great approach. Early,
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Speaker 1: you're sitting there in January saying, Okay, this is gonna
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Speaker 1: be my off season, and then in March, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden you can't get back in the building. That
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Speaker 1: has a moment of are you kidding me? You know what?
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Speaker 1: I was here, um that those first two weeks before
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think the NFL said, I
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Speaker 1: think around like a second or third week of March
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Speaker 1: that you know they're going to close all facilities. So
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Speaker 1: two weeks you know, I came and worked out you
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Speaker 1: know here, I was here in the facility, and I
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Speaker 1: was here working out, you know, because that's where I
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Speaker 1: was gonna be, you know, this off season. I was
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Speaker 1: just gonna you know, being a facility all the time,
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Speaker 1: work out and you know, get the mirror with everything,
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Speaker 1: the coaches and everybody. But I mean once once, uh
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Speaker 1: you know, COVID hit and they shut down everything. Um,
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Speaker 1: I didn't really look at that thing. I didn't really
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Speaker 1: look at it as a negative. I know a lot
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Speaker 1: of people, you know, I you know, it's unfortunately everything
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Speaker 1: that's happened this year, but I didn't. I didn't. Honestly,
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Speaker 1: this year has helped me more than more than it
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Speaker 1: has any other year. Um. It gave it gave me
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Speaker 1: a chance to really one, you know, be around my
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Speaker 1: kids more, um to um, really focus on myself because
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Speaker 1: it's like you you what else did you have to do?
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Speaker 1: You know you got I feel like I came out
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Speaker 1: of this thing. Well we're still in this thing, but
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Speaker 1: you know you come out of you know, the off
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Speaker 1: season a better person. You know, messingly, you're afreshed. You know,
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Speaker 1: you're able to really sit down with yourself. Okay, Um,
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Speaker 1: where do I lack? What areas do I lack? You
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Speaker 1: turn those you know those weaknesses and the strengths. If
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Speaker 1: I was talking to Josh Jones, the rookie, how different
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Speaker 1: a guy am I talking to? I feel like same
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Speaker 1: same same guy, but more wiser. Okay, Um, like I
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Speaker 1: said before, UM, I don't regret anything that I went through.
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. Um this may say, it may
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Speaker 1: sound that the whole I've never had anything given to
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Speaker 1: me in life. I've always had to work with every
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Speaker 1: and so I believe I'm my best one back against
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Speaker 1: the wall. Everybody can write me off and say, oh,
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Speaker 1: he's a buss, he's the second round draft, that he's
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Speaker 1: a bus. I just laughed at it. I still remember
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Speaker 1: everything is still in my head trust me. But I
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Speaker 1: but I just I work better when and everyone writes
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Speaker 1: me off, doubts me, because it's happened before in my life.
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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm just gonna rise out of the
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Speaker 1: flame and just say here I am. Here I am again.
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Speaker 1: And and I put all put all of that, all
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Speaker 1: of that, all of that, what I went through, and
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Speaker 1: it just made me a better person. Like you, you
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Speaker 1: can't you can't be afraid to one fail. You can't
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Speaker 1: be afraid to you know, go through things. You know adversity.
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Speaker 1: You gotta stand it and stand in the face of
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Speaker 1: adversity and and really just take control of it. You
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Speaker 1: know what I would what I I would say because
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Speaker 1: like it just it just made me. It just made
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Speaker 1: me who I am today. And I'm like I said,
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Speaker 1: I'm able to one of my one of my you know,
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Speaker 1: one of my gifts and life is helping others. You know,
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Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think I'm one of those
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Speaker 1: guys that you know, I'm able. I don't. I don't
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Speaker 1: keep you know, I don't. I don't keep secrets. And
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Speaker 1: when I say keep secrets, I say, if something has
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Speaker 1: worked for me, it may not work for the next person.
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Speaker 1: But if I'm able to, you know, at least, you know,
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Speaker 1: give some type of advice. You know, it may not
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Speaker 1: help tend people, but if it helps one person, one
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Speaker 1: person out of how many how many people, I feel
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Speaker 1: like I've done my job. How does a guy from Southfield,
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Speaker 1: Michigan wind up at NC State. So now I don't
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Speaker 1: consider my I've I've lived all over them, and I
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Speaker 1: lived in the city in south you know, I went
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Speaker 1: to South Ohaio. Um, I went to you know, I bounced.
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Speaker 1: I was like an apartment. Baby, man, we moved so much. Man.
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Speaker 1: But um, you know what the recruiting process, Michigan State
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Speaker 1: or Michigan didn't offer me. Michigan State offered me on
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Speaker 1: the last day of sign to day. And Eddie Faulkner,
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Speaker 1: which is the running backs coach in Pittsburgh, now, he
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Speaker 1: was the recruiting coordinator in Wisconsin. He was recruiting in Wisconsin.
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Speaker 1: And when Dave Doring got the job at NC State,
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Speaker 1: you know, he came in and he said, hey, man,
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Speaker 1: I want you to come with me, so um and
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Speaker 1: actually out let me, let me retrack, let me, let me,
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Speaker 1: let me back up because I'm missing something here. So
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Speaker 1: the receiver, i think the assistant receiver's coach, Troy Watterers
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Speaker 1: that said, is he actually Cincinnati Now he was at
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Speaker 1: NC State. And then when Tom O'Brien got fired, they
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Speaker 1: had already offered me. And so when they got fired,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I'm there, Yes, I'm not, you know,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I'm not inserting NC State anymore. Then that's
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Speaker 1: when they've done and they got those those guys got
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Speaker 1: the job. My whole thought was to get away from
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Speaker 1: just just to try something new. I wanted to start
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Speaker 1: over completely and just you know, just get away and
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Speaker 1: just yea. I never really traveled much growing up. And
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Speaker 1: then with North Carolina, I'm like, you know, good weather,
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Speaker 1: it's near the ocean, so why not did you find
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Speaker 1: out that Raleigh wasn't that close to the ocean? I
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Speaker 1: did you know what? It's still like, I think, what
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Speaker 1: two and a half hours? Its not, it's not, it's
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Speaker 1: not it's not too far. Now you really got close
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Speaker 1: to the ocean here, so you finally attain your goal, right, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: no question. What when you came into camp this year,
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Speaker 1: it seemed and again we're watching it from the sidelines,
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Speaker 1: are watching unpadded stuff, so it's hard to know what
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Speaker 1: we're seeing. But from day one it seemed like you
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Speaker 1: stood out always around the ball. Did you come into
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Speaker 1: camp thinking, I don't care what the depth chart quote
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Speaker 1: unquote says, I'm the starter, or do you just come
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Speaker 1: in playing or how do you approach that? Because in
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Speaker 1: the observer's mind, you had a long jump to make,
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Speaker 1: but it didn't look like you were playing that way.
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Speaker 1: I did. I had a very long jumping, like I
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Speaker 1: remember when you know, you know, coach he put up
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Speaker 1: the first depth chart, and now I think I was
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Speaker 1: at the bottom. But I didn't look at it like that.
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Speaker 1: I look at it as you know, I'm gonna work
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Speaker 1: every each and every day, I'm gonna wake up the
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Speaker 1: same guy, same type of approach um, and I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: just let my ability speak for stuff. I'm gonna let
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Speaker 1: my place speak for stuffing like I didn't. I didn't
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Speaker 1: worry about where I was on the depth chart because
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Speaker 1: I knew that if they gave me an opportunity to really,
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Speaker 1: you know, showcase what I had, that everything else, you know,
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Speaker 1: falling the place and everything else to speak for yourself.
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Speaker 1: So I wasn't necessarily worried about the depth chart at all.
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Speaker 1: It might sound funny asking a guy who's in what
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Speaker 1: the fourth year really your third playing, But it seems
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Speaker 1: like from talking to you, it seems like you feel
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Speaker 1: like you still got a lot of growth, Like you're
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Speaker 1: not really scratching the surface of who you are yet
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Speaker 1: as a player. Am I reading that right? Not? Even? Man,
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Speaker 1: I feel like I got so much ball, I have
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Speaker 1: so so much to do in this league, and and
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Speaker 1: and that, and that's the going into my fourth year,
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Speaker 1: and and that's the funny thing about this whole thing,
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Speaker 1: like I have a lot to I feel like I
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Speaker 1: haven't showed like they this league hasn't seen still what
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Speaker 1: I can do here? I am man. I hope that,
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Speaker 1: you know, continue to, you know, get that opportunity to
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Speaker 1: showcase that. We'll talk a little bit about the team
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Speaker 1: in general. Hot start a difficult game against Miami. Defense
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Speaker 1: is being criticized with some people, especially for the early starts.
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Speaker 1: Where are you, guys in terms of your headspace, your approach?
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Speaker 1: Tell me about that, I mean, he spaces there. I
12:03
Speaker 1: mean we we haven't. You gotta understand, this is the
12:05
Speaker 1: first quarter of the fourth quarter season, um, and obviously
12:08
Speaker 1: going into the last game or the first quarter of
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Speaker 1: the season. That's how I look at it. UM. So
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Speaker 1: you know, you don't hit the pennic button. You don't
12:14
Speaker 1: hit the penning button. UM. And you know, it's a
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Speaker 1: great group of group of guys, man, hard working guys.
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Speaker 1: We understand what we need to do. We understand that
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Speaker 1: that for the past. You know, you know, three weeks
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Speaker 1: we started slow. We understand that. UM. But you know,
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Speaker 1: obviously we're not gonna let that, you know, affect how
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Speaker 1: we come out. You know, this week and play obviously
12:36
Speaker 1: there there there there needs to be some things that
12:38
Speaker 1: you know, needs to get cleaned up. Um. But I
12:40
Speaker 1: feel like everyone's you know, you know, we got that
12:44
Speaker 1: those three days to kind of you know, step away
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Speaker 1: from football a little bit clear our minds and then
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Speaker 1: re refocus and get re energized and energy. Today was
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Speaker 1: it was, it was outstanding. I felt like the execution um,
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Speaker 1: you know, and it just comes down to execution. UM.
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Speaker 1: You know every position, you know, once you execute, UM,
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Speaker 1: I feel like we're we're hard you know, defense to
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Speaker 1: be UM once we execute the right way. Tell me
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Speaker 1: about as you go into this, Joe Burrow, he's a
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Speaker 1: young guy, all right. Does that matter to you when
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Speaker 1: you're looking at an opponent? How do you game plan
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Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback as opposed to a veteran quarterback?
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Speaker 1: Does that change at all? Now? You you are, my
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Speaker 1: game plan doesn't change. I mean, you're you're your thought.
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Speaker 1: You know obviously you know he's a he's a guy
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Speaker 1: that hasn't seen you know, a lot of a lot
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Speaker 1: of looks. But he's a he's he's he's a good quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Though he didn't go you know, first overall for no reason. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, but so your approach still has to be
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Speaker 1: the same no matter who's the quarterback. I don't care
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Speaker 1: if they had you know, I don't know, like I
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Speaker 1: don't know who. I don't care who the quarterback was.
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Speaker 1: But you know, your approach still has to be the same,
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Speaker 1: just like you're playing a Payton man, you know, keep
14:02
Speaker 1: that same approach. One final sort of football one on
14:05
Speaker 1: one question. So many young guys in the secondary, it's
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Speaker 1: it's as young as secondary as I've been around, rookie C. J. Henderson,
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Speaker 1: even Trey Herndon, who's been around quoting forever in his
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Speaker 1: third year. What do you draw from there? There's not
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Speaker 1: the experience guy back there. There's DJ so I guess
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Speaker 1: he's the guy, right, He's the guy you draw from,
14:24
Speaker 1: and you're looking for veteran experience, you know what. There's
14:28
Speaker 1: a lot of the selling, the selling for for our
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Speaker 1: back end, you know, being that we're young. Um, obviously
14:36
Speaker 1: there's room to grow with which with anybody, but man,
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Speaker 1: the selling is a man I feel like the guy's
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Speaker 1: the limit. Man. Um. You know, I don't want everything.
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Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to really, you know, panic because
14:47
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's early. You know, this is what
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Speaker 1: you know. CJ is going into this fourth game, you know, um,
14:54
Speaker 1: and we have you know a few other rookies, so
14:56
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, guys are guys are you know,
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Speaker 1: getting comfortable with you know with playing in the NFL
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Speaker 1: and obviously playing with each other. So once once you
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Speaker 1: know those things, continue to you know, work yourself out,
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Speaker 1: you know. Every week. Um, like I said, man, the
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Speaker 1: scouts a limit for it's the times a group man
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Speaker 1: scus limit each week. And this we do something called
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Speaker 1: the ozone five. It's just five quick questions. It's not
15:28
Speaker 1: really a game. It's just kind of fun. It's a
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Speaker 1: fun thing. So we got five quick questions. First question,
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Speaker 1: your last binge watched my last games. Watch Power and
15:42
Speaker 1: tell me about Power. It is very good, but I
15:45
Speaker 1: really don't think I can get it into real detail
15:48
Speaker 1: about it. You know, mature, it's a mature audience. Your
15:55
Speaker 1: answer is supposed to be, Hey, no time to being
15:57
Speaker 1: watched during the season on game Plan. Oh you listen,
16:01
Speaker 1: you said last trick questions because you said last time,
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Speaker 1: So like I honestly don't. I don't watch much TV
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Speaker 1: during it because I got we don't really have time
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Speaker 1: for And I go to bed earlier, got you last
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Speaker 1: song on your headphones or in your car? What's in
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Speaker 1: your mind right now? I think it had been been
16:20
Speaker 1: a song by Little Dirt, Got you mine too, Josh?
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Speaker 1: Same thing, a Little Dirt, big hit or Big I
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Speaker 1: n T. What's better? Big guyant you gotta you gotta
16:34
Speaker 1: get the ball back to the offer. Yeah, best football
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Speaker 1: feeling ever for you. That's football feeling, man, is probably
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Speaker 1: you know, putting on those shoulder pass and helmets pre game.
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Speaker 1: You know, like getting just getting getting ready for a game.
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Speaker 1: That's that's you know, headphones on in the zone. Um.
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Speaker 1: And I would say, I would say, I kind of
17:00
Speaker 1: have a you know, dello answer, so I would I
17:02
Speaker 1: would say, waking up in the game day, to be honest,
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Speaker 1: that's that's the best feeling. Because it always been that way?
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Speaker 1: Is it better in the NFL? Always? It's always, man,
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Speaker 1: you just wake up and understand, man, you get a
17:16
Speaker 1: you get another opportunity when you get another opportunity to
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Speaker 1: go out there and play. So yeah, it's always been
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Speaker 1: like that for me, even literally and you kind of
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Speaker 1: spoke to that a couple of weeks ago that that's
17:29
Speaker 1: the feeling that you sort of held onto that you
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Speaker 1: wanted back. And yeah, yeah, I I you know what, man,
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Speaker 1: I let me tell you something about you know, I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you how much I and and love football.
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Speaker 1: Like growing up, man, we used to we love football
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Speaker 1: so much. You know, the guys that you know, my
17:45
Speaker 1: friends growing up. You know, we started our own league
17:48
Speaker 1: growing up. That's how much we was into, like back
17:50
Speaker 1: yard football. We had our own league, like different you know,
17:53
Speaker 1: different guys from whether like you know, neighborhoods or whatever
17:56
Speaker 1: around you know, apartment complex. You know, hey, going against
17:59
Speaker 1: these guys this week, and like it was just man,
18:02
Speaker 1: we had so much fun with it. Man, and I
18:06
Speaker 1: and I and I still and I and when I
18:08
Speaker 1: was going through my face, you know that kind of
18:12
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't necessarily take it all away from me,
18:17
Speaker 1: but you know I wasn't feeling the same. Wasn't the same,
18:21
Speaker 1: Josh Jones, you know what I'm saying. That was that
18:23
Speaker 1: was a different, That was an imposter. That was a different. Dude.
18:27
Speaker 1: Was that tackle football league you guys playing on the street. No, No,
18:31
Speaker 1: we were still tackling, like like back to our football. Yeah, man,
18:34
Speaker 1: that that's that's where that's where it all started. Man.
18:36
Speaker 1: We were still tackling. Man. Yeah, it's a it's cool goal.
18:40
Speaker 1: How many players to aside you, Len? You got five
18:42
Speaker 1: or six? No, I probably five or six. Final question,
18:48
Speaker 1: five Lakers or Heat for d you care? You know what?
18:53
Speaker 1: I love the way Miami Heat plays basketball. I love
18:58
Speaker 1: the way they played basketball. And I'm a guy that
19:00
Speaker 1: that likes the root for the underdogs. But I'm gonna
19:02
Speaker 1: be realistic, man, and go with the l A Lakers.
19:05
Speaker 1: You seem like you're in a good place. Absolutely. Why
19:10
Speaker 1: everything we talked about anything else to it? Everything we
19:13
Speaker 1: talked about, man, And I just feel like everything is
19:17
Speaker 1: just flowing man. Like you know, I feel like my
19:20
Speaker 1: Chackers is all the line, man. The energy is there,
19:23
Speaker 1: the Bob is there. I'm connected spiritually. I'm at peace,
19:27
Speaker 1: man um And and this is a place where I
19:31
Speaker 1: want where I want to be man um so blue collar.
19:35
Speaker 1: It's my my type of place, man, My my my
19:37
Speaker 1: type of my type of football. I can just only
19:39
Speaker 1: focus on football. I don't have to worry about, you know,
19:42
Speaker 1: anything else. And I wake up in the morning, come
19:44
Speaker 1: to work, get an opportunity to just be about football,
19:48
Speaker 1: Go home, still be about football, come back. Just that's
19:51
Speaker 1: that's that's how I'm wired, man, and and this this
19:53
Speaker 1: place allows me to do that. Josh, it was fantastic
19:57
Speaker 1: meeting here. I look forward to working with you in
20:00
Speaker 1: the more conventional sense. And thank you for being on
20:03
Speaker 1: the ozone podcast and good luck the rest of the
20:04
Speaker 1: seats appreciate you. Thank you so much. That was interesting
20:08
Speaker 1: to me because I'll be up front, I don't know
20:11
Speaker 1: Josh very well. I know a little bit about his story.
20:15
Speaker 1: Uh not a lot of people are in the Jaguars
20:17
Speaker 1: know much about him beyond what we talked about. But
20:21
Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting to have him expand on
20:24
Speaker 1: some of the things he had said on a Zoom
20:25
Speaker 1: call a few weeks ago when he got cut and
20:29
Speaker 1: he was sort of out of football for two or
20:30
Speaker 1: three weeks. Everything you hear, he's told other people. It
20:35
Speaker 1: changed him. It changed his approach to football, It changed
20:37
Speaker 1: his life in a lot of ways, and Dave a
20:40
Speaker 1: lot of times, when players have the game taken away
20:43
Speaker 1: from him, it changes who they are, it changes their approach. Yeah,
20:48
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting, uh interesting story. And for me too,
20:52
Speaker 1: I I don't know him very well. Um, you know,
20:56
Speaker 1: especially in this new COVID era, you know, our interactions
20:59
Speaker 1: the players are a lot a lot more limited. But yeah,
21:04
Speaker 1: and that's the interesting part. I mean, what a story
21:06
Speaker 1: it'll be if he can eventually become a full time
21:11
Speaker 1: start starter uh here for a few years. I think
21:15
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. You go from uh from being you know,
21:18
Speaker 1: quote unquote draft bus to like reviving your career because
21:23
Speaker 1: of of being released from a team. Is is a
21:26
Speaker 1: pretty interesting kind of movie script kind of story. And
21:32
Speaker 1: and he, uh, he's definitely from being around him now
21:35
Speaker 1: since the season start a little bit, um, you know,
21:37
Speaker 1: being on the sidelines and shooting games and stuff like that,
21:40
Speaker 1: you can tell he's he's a little bit of a
21:43
Speaker 1: leader in that secondary he is. He is definitely the
21:46
Speaker 1: guy who who kind of talks to the guys and
21:49
Speaker 1: gets gets them back in the game, you know, you know,
21:51
Speaker 1: uh he is. He is definitely And the other part
21:54
Speaker 1: of it two, he brings a little bit since he's
21:56
Speaker 1: been has some NFL experience, still a young player, but
22:00
Speaker 1: you can tell he he's the guy that usually goes
22:03
Speaker 1: back and forth with the other position groups of like
22:06
Speaker 1: on defensive Hey, this is what I'm seeing what are
22:09
Speaker 1: you guys seeing type of thing? Um So, he especially
22:13
Speaker 1: with that secondary that's kind of a quiet secondary, He's
22:16
Speaker 1: definitely the the guy that that makes makes that group go.
22:19
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it's an interesting dynamic, and I've always
22:25
Speaker 1: sort of had the thought or the theory philosophy, if
22:27
Speaker 1: you will, if a team is going to build a
22:30
Speaker 1: good roster, it has to come from more places than
22:34
Speaker 1: just unrestricted free agency in the draft. You you've got
22:38
Speaker 1: twenty two holes to fill in your roster, so to speak.
22:42
Speaker 1: You're probably not going to be able to sign all
22:46
Speaker 1: u f a S high profile guys and draft that,
22:50
Speaker 1: so you've got to find them somewhere else. He'd be
22:52
Speaker 1: a rookie free agency, be at the waiver wire, practice
22:56
Speaker 1: squad signings. So they signed Josh Jones where you don't
23:00
Speaker 1: have to give up any equity to get them. You're
23:03
Speaker 1: taking a chance on him. You've got to have a
23:05
Speaker 1: few of those guys work out and become good players.
23:09
Speaker 1: The other thing with Josh Jones is I think Jaguars
23:11
Speaker 1: fans and I fell victim to it when I was
23:14
Speaker 1: doing all my preseason previews and position analysis. I assume
23:18
Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison and Jared Wilson would start and sort of
23:22
Speaker 1: had Josh Jones as a He'll be in camp and
23:24
Speaker 1: get cut, because that's usually how it works. When you
23:27
Speaker 1: have a practice squad guy or a sky signs then resigns,
23:32
Speaker 1: they usually not around. And I kind of I'll admit
23:36
Speaker 1: to overlooking the fact that he's a second round draft
23:38
Speaker 1: bit he was considered one of the top What does
23:42
Speaker 1: that make your top sixty five players in his draft class?
23:45
Speaker 1: Everything adds up. Clearly, there's a reason why a second
23:49
Speaker 1: round draft picks out of the league, and when they're
23:51
Speaker 1: back in, there's gotta be a reason why they make
23:52
Speaker 1: it back. Well. I don't know there's any question listening
23:55
Speaker 1: to him that he heads your quote unquote prayer meeting
23:59
Speaker 1: where he you realize, if I don't do it now,
24:02
Speaker 1: I ain't doing it. A lot of times for guys,
24:04
Speaker 1: the light comes on. He clearly has it together off
24:09
Speaker 1: the field in terms of approach. He's clearly got the
24:13
Speaker 1: talent on the field. No reason to me, Dave, why
24:16
Speaker 1: he's not going to be I don't I don't think
24:18
Speaker 1: he's a starter here long term. I don't know why
24:20
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be, but he's certainly got that you got
24:23
Speaker 1: to look at as a long term factor in the secondary.
24:28
Speaker 1: And everything you hear is that he's for a strong safety.
24:32
Speaker 1: He's playing fine. Yeah, and uh, it will just be interesting.
24:36
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. It will be interesting to
24:38
Speaker 1: see how his uh story finishes up here as a
24:41
Speaker 1: as a Jaguar. I think, uh, you know, hopefully, it's
24:45
Speaker 1: still a lot to be written. But it's just, uh,
24:47
Speaker 1: it's just kind of cool that, you know, kind of
24:50
Speaker 1: came from the bottom and now he's here. Well, I'm
24:53
Speaker 1: just glad we'll close it out with this. I'm glad
24:56
Speaker 1: that I finally found the guy who lines up with
24:59
Speaker 1: my musical. So I'm gonna go listen to a little dirt.
25:02
Speaker 1: And so with that said, I think Joe Fortunato and
25:06
Speaker 1: Davey Candice will also be listening to a Little Dirt.
25:09
Speaker 1: We're all on the same page here. I though this
25:11
Speaker 1: is a good oh z own podcast. I don't think
25:13
Speaker 1: it's socko when I thank everybody for making me sound
25:15
Speaker 1: better than I actually I am. And we'll talk to
25:17
Speaker 1: everybody next week.