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Young Yale grad-student gunned down after marriage proposal: TRIAL LOOMS · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a twenty six year old
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Speaker 1: Yale graduate student set to be married gunned down. Why
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Speaker 1: what do we know now? I'm Nancy Grace. This is
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
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Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Serious XM twenty eleven. Listen to this.
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Speaker 1: I heard a gunshot, a woman's scream, several shots after that.
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Speaker 1: A neighbor recalls the harrowing details of what occurred at
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Speaker 1: the corner of Lawrence and Nicole Street at eight thirty
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Speaker 1: Saturday night. Waited about a minute, came out and saw
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Speaker 1: the bodyline there. The decease has been identified as twenty
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Speaker 1: six year old Kevin geongg of West Haven, Yo University
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Speaker 1: confirmed he was a graduate student in their School of Environs.
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Speaker 1: He was a member of the class of twenty twenty two.
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Speaker 1: Multiple witnesses confirm hearing between three to six shots. I'm
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Speaker 1: still shaking off about it all night. We're on disbelief
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Speaker 1: the entire Yale community in many groups and organizations. Jong
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Speaker 1: was a part of her carrying that disbelief as well.
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Speaker 1: Think about it. This twenty six year old Yale grad
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Speaker 1: student set to graduate this month, but instead shot down
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Speaker 1: multiple times in the street unarmed, as if he was chased.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, what do we know about Kevin.
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Speaker 1: I know that he earned a degree at University of
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Speaker 1: Washington environmental Studies. He was very close to completing his
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Speaker 1: graduate degree. That's not easy. A devout Christian member Trinity
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Speaker 1: Baptist Church, played piano, helped with the homeless, worked on
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Speaker 1: the soup line, and was very much in love with
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Speaker 1: another grad student. In fact, their wedding was set. That
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Speaker 1: was not meant to be when shots rang out. I'm
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Speaker 1: just trying to imagine in that small college town that was.
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Speaker 1: Like you were just hearing from our friends at Fox
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Speaker 1: sixty one. Now take a listen again to our friends
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Speaker 1: at Fox. Police say they received multiple nine one one
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Speaker 1: calls reporting gunfire and a person shot in the area
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Speaker 1: of Nash Street and Lauren Street. The victim twenty six
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Speaker 1: year old Kevin Jiang. He was shot multiple times and
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Speaker 1: died on scene, according to police. Died on the scene,
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Speaker 1: according to police. Now take a listen to Tony a
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Speaker 1: Yellow CBS two. A sense of shock and sadness has
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Speaker 1: settled on the Yale University community after the Saturday night's
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Speaker 1: shooting death of grad student Kevin Gian. I don't have
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Speaker 1: a memory of him where he wasn't smiling and happy,
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Speaker 1: and even if you didn't agree with all of his views,
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Speaker 1: he was more than happy to be your best friend.
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Speaker 1: Eight thirty Saturday night, residents in the East Rock neighborhood
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Speaker 1: heard the distinct sound of gunfire. One man spoke to
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Speaker 1: me off camera. I heard like around seven rapid gunshots,
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Speaker 1: like I turned the lights off because I was scared.
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Speaker 1: Police say someone shot Young multiple times. He was found
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Speaker 1: near his car, which had rear end damage. One possible
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Speaker 1: mode of police were exploring violent escalation after a road
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Speaker 1: rage incident. We're exploring every possibility, including whether or not
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Speaker 1: there was an accident that precipitated this incident, whether or
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Speaker 1: not it was a road rage. We do have very
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Speaker 1: specific leads that we're exploring or we're not ruling anything
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Speaker 1: out at this time. Joining me an all star panel
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Speaker 1: to make sense of what we are knowing right now
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Speaker 1: in the case and the investigation. High profile lawyer joining
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Speaker 1: me at Jacksonville Dale Carson, former FBI, now lawyer and
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Speaker 1: author of Arrest Proof Yourself. Renowned psychologist doctor Jory Krausen, Faculty,
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Speaker 1: Saint Leo University, consultant and author of Operation SOS, doctor
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Speaker 1: Michelle Dupree, forensic Pathologists, medical examiner, detective and author of
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Speaker 1: Homicide Investigation Field Guide. V Brandt joining me, former US
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Speaker 1: Marshall Service International Investigations Branch, author of Flying Solo, Top
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Speaker 1: of the World on Amazon, and you can find him
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Speaker 1: at v Brandt dot com. But first to Alexis Terreschuk,
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Speaker 1: Crime online dot com investigative reporter. I want you to
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Speaker 1: describe the scene from me the night that Kevin was
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Speaker 1: shot down. I find it very significant. Kevin was unarmed,
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Speaker 1: there was no robbery, there was no sex attack, and
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Speaker 1: his car had been recently, very recently rear ended. Described
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Speaker 1: to me what happened. And this was right at the
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Speaker 1: Yale University campus. Correct, Yes, this is right by Yale
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Speaker 1: in New Haven, Connecticut. This is February sixth, twenty twenty one.
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Speaker 1: It is There is snow on the ground. This is
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Speaker 1: the height of winter, right, tons of snow, feet of
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Speaker 1: snow on the ground. There's snow on the streets. You
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Speaker 1: can see it. Jay is in his car, he is driving.
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Speaker 1: He is all of a sudden hit from behind. So
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Speaker 1: you think, oh no, this is a road rage thing, right,
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Speaker 1: it's a vehicle. Then, so he gets out of his car,
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Speaker 1: and that is when he is attacked. A man comes
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Speaker 1: up to him and starts shooting at him. He's actually
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Speaker 1: holding his backpack and in fact, so he let me
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Speaker 1: back up a little bit. He is hit, He stops
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Speaker 1: his car, he turns on his hazards, exactly what any
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Speaker 1: of us would do when you're rear ending right and
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Speaker 1: you're not smashed into a tree. You're okay, You're able
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Speaker 1: to get out. You're gonna talk to the person, You're
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Speaker 1: going to exchange your insurance and your license, and then
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Speaker 1: you're gonna go home and hopefully get your car picked.
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Speaker 1: So he gets out of the car, he has his backpack,
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Speaker 1: maybe to give his license in the registration, and that
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Speaker 1: is when he is shot multiple times. There's a scream
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Speaker 1: herd because this is in a residential neighborhood. They are
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Speaker 1: homes right on the street, lots and lots of homes
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Speaker 1: on all four sides of it. Fall to the ground,
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Speaker 1: and then witnesses say the shooter stands over him with
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Speaker 1: the gun and fires twice directly at his body. I
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Speaker 1: want to go through what you just said there at
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Speaker 1: the very end, deal Carson joining me, former fed with
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Speaker 1: the FBI, now lawyer and Jacksonville Dale. Did you hear
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Speaker 1: what she said at the very end that the shooter
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Speaker 1: then stood over the body and continued shooting. What do
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Speaker 1: you make of that? Real extreme anger and raft jealousy.
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Speaker 1: Anytime you shoot somebody in the face and you're making
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Speaker 1: sure that they're dead, there's something going on in that
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Speaker 1: relationship between the two individuals. So your siesta, there is
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Speaker 1: a relationship between the two. Let me go now to
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Speaker 1: now psychologists joining us, doctor Jorry Cross and doctor Joy.
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Speaker 1: The shooting in the face, directly in the face is
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Speaker 1: really not that common. That's that's very personal, okay, Just
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Speaker 1: like Dale was saying, there's some sort of relationship there,
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Speaker 1: and again looking at the behavior the car being struck
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Speaker 1: like that and then getting out, and it appears that
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Speaker 1: the shooting was almost immediately. It was like not even
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Speaker 1: words exchange. It was like his behavior was intent to
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Speaker 1: get the driver out of the vehicle and to shoot him.
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Speaker 1: To doctor Michelle Dupree, forensic pathologists, medical examiner and author,
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Speaker 1: doctor Dupree, you've seen you've worked so many autopsies and
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Speaker 1: homicide scenes. Typically when we hear someone being shot in
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Speaker 1: the head. It's from the back or the side eyed
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Speaker 1: execution style, but in the face as the person the
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Speaker 1: victim is lying on the ground is a whole another thing.
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Speaker 1: Explain exactly, Nancy, Ana, and as your other guests have said,
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Speaker 1: this is very personal. This person wants to see what
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Speaker 1: he's doing. He wants to make sure that this person
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Speaker 1: is dad. He wants punishment. Guys, this young grad student
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Speaker 1: has a devastated family. Take a listen to our cut.
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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six year old Kevin Jiang was shot and
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Speaker 1: killed in New Haven, near the Yale campus eleven days ago.
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Speaker 1: He was found lying near his car, shot multiple times,
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Speaker 1: later dying after scene. The environmental science student laid to
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Speaker 1: rest by fellow members of the National Guard and remembered
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Speaker 1: by loved ones, including his mother, who says she was
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Speaker 1: in disbelief after learning her only son was murdered. Kevin
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Speaker 1: West might be loved on each child. Last Saturday evening
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Speaker 1: and the police told me he was shot. My first
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Speaker 1: reaction was, this cannot be real. Alexis Treshchuck. I did
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Speaker 1: not realize Kevin was an only child, and he was
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Speaker 1: so close to his mom, so when he lived on
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Speaker 1: the West Coast. He lived in Seattle, and when University Washington,
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Speaker 1: she lived there with him. When he got into Yale,
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Speaker 1: she moved across country with him. They were so close
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Speaker 1: because he took care of her and they were so close,
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Speaker 1: the only child. She was so proud of him getting
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Speaker 1: into Yale. It's a huge accomplishment. He was so impressive,
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Speaker 1: so young, and they were together until the very end.
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Speaker 1: You know. The Yale president went on and on about
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Speaker 1: what the university was going to do, how sorry they were.
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Speaker 1: But the thought alexis tres check that parents pay sixty
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Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars a year tuition or the students themselves
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Speaker 1: do for this for a high crime area and the
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Speaker 1: shadows of the Yale University spires. Take a listen hour
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Speaker 1: cut four. Our friend Tony Terzy Fox. Kevin Jong's Facebook
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Speaker 1: page biography was poignant. Life is a gift. I am
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Speaker 1: so thankful for so the Yale community is grieving right now.
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Speaker 1: This is a loss of an extraordinary young man. At
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Speaker 1: approximately eight thirty pm on Saturday, officers responded after receiving
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Speaker 1: numerous nine one one calls of gunshots which occurred here
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Speaker 1: in the area of Lawrence and Nickel Streets in New Haven.
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Speaker 1: Kevin's Young pronounced dead on scene. His identity was confirmed
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Speaker 1: to be a resident of West Haven, twenty six years old,
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Speaker 1: and he was a graduate student attending the Yale School
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Speaker 1: of Environment. Police won't say much about the case, including
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Speaker 1: why you young, who had just proposed to his fiancee
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Speaker 1: a week before he was killed, was in the East
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Speaker 1: Rock neighborhood. We have developed information suggesting that this incident
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Speaker 1: may not have been an actual random act, that he
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Speaker 1: in fact was targeted. Okay, now we're getting somewhere. What
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Speaker 1: our guests are saying has turned out to be true.
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Speaker 1: Police now investigating whether this was random or actually an assassination.
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Speaker 1: So back to you, del Carson, former fed with the FBI,
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Speaker 1: now lawyer, when you believe based on the shooting itself,
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Speaker 1: the way it went down, the way Kevin was rear ended,
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Speaker 1: forced off the road. When he gets out, holding up
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Speaker 1: his backpack to get his driver's license registration out, he's
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Speaker 1: gunned down. The person then walks up to him as
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Speaker 1: he's on the ground and continues to shoot him in
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Speaker 1: the face. It looks like an assassination with a lot
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Speaker 1: of road rage. You see people fire and keep driving
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Speaker 1: not this. So when you think it's a targeted attack,
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Speaker 1: where do you start with. The first places that he
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Speaker 1: put the backpack between himself and the shooter, which is
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Speaker 1: a defensive act. And we also know that the individual
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Speaker 1: who discharged the weapon had been in the area shooting
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Speaker 1: because the expended cartridges have been found in various areas.
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Speaker 1: That indicates to me he was doing surveillance in that area.
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Speaker 1: And we also know that the victim's girlfriend, A's fiance
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Speaker 1: was five hundred feet from the crime scene. So clearly
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Speaker 1: this individual was watching the house, saw the victim come
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Speaker 1: out of the house, get in the car, and that's
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Speaker 1: when he rear ended him. Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: So alexis terress, Chuck. He didn't mention to me that
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Speaker 1: there have been other shootings in the area. I believe
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Speaker 1: three other shootings in the area where nobody was shot,
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Speaker 1: but the part was firing into and around homes. This
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Speaker 1: was a regidicial area where Kevin was murdered. And the
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Speaker 1: ballistic show that those bullets from the other three shootings
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Speaker 1: matched the bullets used to murder Kevin. Is that correct? Yes,
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Speaker 1: that is correct. There had been three different shootings in
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Speaker 1: November December, in January in New Haven, but again not
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Speaker 1: people something like. And the thing was, there was something
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Speaker 1: that was seen in all of them. There was a
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Speaker 1: dark suv that was seen kind of outside the home
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Speaker 1: where these shootings occurred, and then there was a dark
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Speaker 1: suv that was seen when he was killed. So they've
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Speaker 1: sort of started thinking, well, maybe these could be connected
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Speaker 1: because there was nothing. There was nothing that would have
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Speaker 1: led anybody believe that any of these shootings were connected.
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Speaker 1: They seemed so random because people weren't shot at and
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Speaker 1: nobody was injured. But when they found they found a
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Speaker 1: bag and it had lots of ammunition that matched all
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Speaker 1: of these bullets. However, they did not initially find the
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Speaker 1: weapon that was used to shoot Jane did not initially
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Speaker 1: find the weapon used to shoot but they found a
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Speaker 1: bag full of MMO that matched the bullet that claimed
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Speaker 1: the law of Kevin, laws of m O. Okay, that's
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Speaker 1: not good, you know, I'm just I'm thinking this through
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Speaker 1: what they know at the time of the arrest. Two
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Speaker 1: special guests joining US IRV Brand former US Marshal Service
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Speaker 1: International Investigations ERV. When police determine that is shooting is
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Speaker 1: not random, that it is targeted, that it is an assassination.
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Speaker 1: I started off asking the question, what's the first thing
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Speaker 1: police do as soon as they realize this is a
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Speaker 1: targeted murder? What's the next step? It would be to
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Speaker 1: identify any problems, starting with the family, then moving out
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Speaker 1: from there, going to associates people that they may have
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Speaker 1: had fights within the past. But you're going to start
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Speaker 1: first with the family and if he was engaged, that
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Speaker 1: could be domestic disputes or anything involving a fight from
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Speaker 1: that area. Then you would move outwards from there. Well,
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Speaker 1: you're right, or Brandt as usual, guys, you can find
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Speaker 1: Brandt b r A n DT dot com. You start
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Speaker 1: with the family and a love interest. He has just
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Speaker 1: gotten engaged and I believe posted it on Facebook. You
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Speaker 1: start there with the mother, the father, the fiance, and
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Speaker 1: then you begin to move out who do they know?
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Speaker 1: Who did he work with? Who was he in school with?
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Speaker 1: He had been in Rotsey, who was he in Rotzy with?
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Speaker 1: It's the military branch in college. You go out, out,
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Speaker 1: out and out justice or brand has just said, isn't
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Speaker 1: it true? Alexas terres chuck that it had been just
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Speaker 1: the previous week he had posted about his engagement. Yes
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Speaker 1: he had. He posted that he was engaged and that
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Speaker 1: he had found the love of his life, and he
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Speaker 1: showed that they finally made the decision to get married
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Speaker 1: and he was very happy about this. It was on
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Speaker 1: his facebalkage that could be seen by friends as well
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Speaker 1: as friends of his Beyonce, because he tagged her in
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Speaker 1: the picture, which you would do. You're so excited. Here's
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Speaker 1: my Beyonce of the woman I'm going to marry the
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Speaker 1: very next step. We hear this from police taken us
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Speaker 1: in our cut thirteen w f SB three. The crime
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Speaker 1: has shocked the Yale community and the East Rock neighborhood
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Speaker 1: where the shooting happened. This is twenty nine year old
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Speaker 1: ching Chuan Pond, an MIT graduate, who is wanted for
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Speaker 1: questioning in the killing of a Yale grad student, Kevin Jong.
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Speaker 1: New Haven police say Saturday night, the twenty six year
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Speaker 1: old student was shot multiple times near the corner of
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Speaker 1: Lawrence and Nash following a car crash. Police a Pond,
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Speaker 1: who still lives in the Boston area, has a warrant
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Speaker 1: out for his arrest for allegedly stealing a car in Massachusetts.
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Speaker 1: Why he came to Connecticut is still being investigated, but
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Speaker 1: New Haven Police say Pond was found by north Haven
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Speaker 1: Police after the homicide Saturday night. They are not saying
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Speaker 1: why they were called, but did say police were not
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Speaker 1: aware of Pond's possible connection to the shooting. We're piecing
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Speaker 1: all of those things together. We're exploring every aspect of
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Speaker 1: his travel to and from and since, keeping it very
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Speaker 1: very close to the vast as to why they want
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Speaker 1: to speak to this guy. But listen, in an incredible coincidence,
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Speaker 1: what happened the night Kevin was gunned down Our cut
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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one. Sources have told Fox sixty one over
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Speaker 1: the past few days that north Haven Police when they
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Speaker 1: encountered Pond within an hour after that murder last Saturday night,
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Speaker 1: because he was stuck on some train tracks at the
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Speaker 1: Simms Metal business. The sources have told me that north
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Speaker 1: Haven police could have had him in custody. They said
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Speaker 1: it was clear that the man was under the influence
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Speaker 1: of alcohol, and that north Haven police didn't run the
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Speaker 1: plates on the car. Well Chief Kevin Glenn told me
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Speaker 1: today he's the north Haven chief, that's not true. There
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Speaker 1: was no reason to run a breathalyzer a field sobriety test,
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Speaker 1: and we did check his license, we did run the
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Speaker 1: plates on the car and it wasn't until several hours
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Speaker 1: later that the car came back stolen to r Brand
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Speaker 1: joining us from a US marshall with international investigations. Earth.
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Speaker 1: How many times have serious felons purps gotten hung up,
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Speaker 1: caught because of a minor detail, a minor screw up. Here,
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Speaker 1: you've got the guy they want for questioning one hour
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Speaker 1: after the shooting, stuck on train tracks near the shooting. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's how most fugitives are apprehended. Is a routine traffic
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Speaker 1: stop for unrelated incident, whether speeding with the car, broke down,
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Speaker 1: own or something like that, for a reason for the
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Speaker 1: officer to run their information, and then they come back
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Speaker 1: as a wanted person. I don't know what happened in
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Speaker 1: this case, or we see things ev or let me
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Speaker 1: go to Dale Carson for instance. You're trying to find
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Speaker 1: out the identity of Many times cops will look at
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Speaker 1: video surveillance or traffic light cams to see who was
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Speaker 1: parked there, who got a parking ticket. There's a million
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Speaker 1: ways if you think to try to find the park well,
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Speaker 1: there are two points one and we should all be
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Speaker 1: aware of this. This guy's a killer when he gets stopped,
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Speaker 1: and police officers never know who they're going to encounter
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Speaker 1: in a police shop. That's why it's so incredibly dangerous.
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Speaker 1: And the Oklahoma bomber was stopped for a speeding ticket.
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Speaker 1: Timothy McVeigh, He sure was. He was stopped, and I
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Speaker 1: believe there was something wrong with his back. Tat his
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Speaker 1: back break light. And he's the Okay City bomber, Timothy
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Speaker 1: McVeigh pulled over for a traffic violation. So guys here,
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Speaker 1: you say, somebody stuck on train tracks, And I gotta
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Speaker 1: wonder how the hey do you get stuck on train tracks?
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Speaker 1: If anybody has an idea jump in. This is the
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Speaker 1: next thing we learned. Take a listen to our cut
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Speaker 1: fourteen ABC this morning. An urgent manhunt for a person
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Speaker 1: of interest in the fatal shooting of Yale graduate student
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Speaker 1: Kevin jung Us. Marshal's now joining the search for this man,
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Speaker 1: twenty nine year old King Swan Pond, offering a five
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Speaker 1: thousand dollar reward for information leading to his location and arrest.
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Speaker 1: Police say Pond was last seen yesterday driving family members
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Speaker 1: near Atlanta. According to family Pond was carrying a black
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Speaker 1: backpack and acting strange. Mister Pond should be considered armed
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Speaker 1: and dangerous. Stream questions should be used if you come
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Speaker 1: in contact with this individual. Jeng was shot multiple times
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Speaker 1: and found lying outside of his car Saturday night in
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Speaker 1: New Haven, Connecticut. Investigators say Pawn was in the area
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Speaker 1: at the time of the shooting. Jung, a twenty six
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Speaker 1: year old Army veteran, was recently engaged to be married.
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Speaker 1: His fiance graduated from MT just last year. Pawon is
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Speaker 1: currently enrolled at MT as a grad student. Authorities have
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Speaker 1: not yet confirmed if Pon knows the victim or his fiance.
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Speaker 1: We are exploring every angle related to this investigation and
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Speaker 1: related to every person involved, the victim, his fiance, his
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Speaker 1: extended family, and to include the suspect. Who are the
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Speaker 1: person of interest? How we've identified here before you? Why
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Speaker 1: do we keep hearing about the fiance, the fiance that
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Speaker 1: was just posted deeply in love with the murder victim
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Speaker 1: on Kevin's Facebook. Take a listen to our cut twenty
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Speaker 1: five our friends at ABC seven Chicago. Yang was a
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Speaker 1: Yale graduate student and recently got engaged. We learned Yang's
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Speaker 1: fiance and ponn knew each other they both went to MIT.
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Speaker 1: She told police they met while attending Christian groups on
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Speaker 1: campus and talked at various events. They were just friends,
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Speaker 1: She told police she did get a feeling that he
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Speaker 1: was interested in her during that time. The two were
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Speaker 1: friends on Facebook. A week before Yang was killed, the
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Speaker 1: couple announced their engagement and posted pictures on social media.
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Speaker 1: Ponn Last contacted Yang's fiance through Facebook last May, when
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Speaker 1: she graduated from MIT. Pond contacted her to congratulate her
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Speaker 1: and asked her if she would be able to have
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Speaker 1: a zoom call, which never occurred. Alexis tres Chuck, The
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Speaker 1: way it looks right now is so far fetched, but
23:54
Speaker 1: we've seen it before. Alexis is it possible that the
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Speaker 1: alleged purp pan age twenty nine seeks out Kevin Shang
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Speaker 1: and martyrs him over a woman he was interested in
24:12
Speaker 1: many many months before. They had never had a date.
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Speaker 1: She wouldn't even do a zoom call with him, So
24:20
Speaker 1: now he's imbued with violence. He had been years. They
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Speaker 1: had met years earlier. He was a graduate student at MIT,
24:30
Speaker 1: she was an undergrad student. He apparently he would see
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Speaker 1: her at dances they were very involved with churches and
24:37
Speaker 1: there with the Christian community at school and group events.
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Speaker 1: So years he had been it seems like obsessing over her.
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Speaker 1: She says, We talked, we saw each other events, nothing
24:49
Speaker 1: was going on, but he followed her so closely followed
24:53
Speaker 1: when she was moved to New Haven, kept trying to
24:56
Speaker 1: get her to talk with him, would message her on Facebook,
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Speaker 1: they would email. He was using his mit email and
25:05
Speaker 1: still trying to get her to talk with him and
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Speaker 1: to see him either. Then the coronavirus happened, and so
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Speaker 1: he tried to get her to do a zoom just
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Speaker 1: to have some sort of contact with her face to face.
25:16
Speaker 1: And she never let that happen because she wasn't interested
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Speaker 1: in him, She wasn't dating him. They were just friends.
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Speaker 1: They were involved in the community, but she had fallen
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Speaker 1: in love with someone else and was dating him. There
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Speaker 1: was nothing. There was no romantic relationship whatsoever on her part,
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Speaker 1: nothing at all. But the way the motive is seemingly
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Speaker 1: developing is that, based on this, let me say, completely
25:43
Speaker 1: unrequited love, he opens fire on her fiance, shooting him dead.
25:51
Speaker 1: She has given him no reason whatsoever to believe they
25:56
Speaker 1: had a chance It's a very reminiscent of another case.
25:59
Speaker 1: Alexis she you and I covered together a very very
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Speaker 1: attractive female graduate student at University Illinois, Chicago. I don't
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Speaker 1: know if you remember this, Naziski Dix. She has all
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Speaker 1: these beautiful photos of her and her business attire. She
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Speaker 1: actually stalks a guy all the way from Chicago to
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Speaker 1: his DC home, lures him, waits outside the apartment, and
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Speaker 1: she hits him debt. They had dated for a few
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Speaker 1: weeks and he broke it off, and she goes from
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Speaker 1: Chicago to DC to stop him in the parking lot
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Speaker 1: and gun him down. You know too, I think we
26:47
Speaker 1: need a shrink, doctor, Jerry Crossen. Not that I think
26:51
Speaker 1: that it is justifiable, But more often we hear of
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Speaker 1: husbands and wives with children and families or long relationships.
27:02
Speaker 1: They go sideways. Somebody gets the wild hair, he goes crazy,
27:07
Speaker 1: and she's the other one. That is not insanity under
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Speaker 1: the law, nor is it provocation. But over a three
27:16
Speaker 1: week affair, a three week dating period, or in this case,
27:21
Speaker 1: no dating period at all. Yeah, but salker behavior is
27:26
Speaker 1: a different disorder than which you are identifying. In normal relationships,
27:31
Speaker 1: they get that infatuation it becomes like an obsession, and
27:35
Speaker 1: you could fit his behavior into this, even to the
27:38
Speaker 1: point of, you know, stalking him to her house when
27:41
Speaker 1: he's leaving, setting it up the gunfire prior to the shooting,
27:47
Speaker 1: where you know, there were like three or four incidents
27:50
Speaker 1: where it seemed like he was just test firing the weapon,
27:54
Speaker 1: getting prepared to shoot this rivalry of his. What we're
27:59
Speaker 1: missing here is the social media trigger of this, because
28:04
Speaker 1: the shooter in this particular case has probably told many
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Speaker 1: people that he's gonna marry this gal. So when social
28:11
Speaker 1: media hits and it's broadcast everywhere, he turns out to
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Speaker 1: be a liar that everybody he knows. And I have
28:18
Speaker 1: seen this in a number of cases here in Jacksonville, Florida,
28:22
Speaker 1: where people post stuff on the internet. It offends people,
28:26
Speaker 1: and those people go to the home of the publisher
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Speaker 1: and shoots them. So social media has a tremendous impact.
28:34
Speaker 1: All my stars, she just brought to mind another case,
28:37
Speaker 1: Dale Carson. We just covered the case of a gorgeous
28:41
Speaker 1: little teen girl influencer, what was her name, Jackie, just precious,
28:46
Speaker 1: and some guy falls in love with her, tries to
28:51
Speaker 1: buy photos of her from her friends. Actually travels to
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Speaker 1: her home in Florida. Shoots opened the door going in
29:00
Speaker 1: for her and her father. Her father had gone online
29:03
Speaker 1: and said, listen, my daughter is a teen, she's a minor.
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Speaker 1: Stop trying to sleep with her. Go away. And this
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Speaker 1: guy was so incensed he travels all the way to Florida.
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Speaker 1: Shoots opened the door and comes in, guns the blazing.
29:21
Speaker 1: But little did he know her dad was a former
29:24
Speaker 1: cup I think was in New Jersey and gunned him
29:28
Speaker 1: down instead. So what you're saying about the power of
29:32
Speaker 1: social media, she was a TikTok star, That's what she was.
29:37
Speaker 1: Ava MAJORI yes, yes, yes, I mean, you're absolutely right.
29:42
Speaker 1: Deale Carson and doctor Jerry crosson, Well, the man hunt
29:45
Speaker 1: is on. Take a listen to Erica at twenty one.
29:48
Speaker 1: Jim William CBS two All the Run tonight. The man
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Speaker 1: now wanted for murdering a Yale student from Chicago. Police
29:56
Speaker 1: in Connecticut issued in arrest warrant for Kenwanpan. The My
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Speaker 1: Team graduate is considered armed and dangerous. Pen has wanted
30:03
Speaker 1: for the February sixth murder of Yale student Kevin Jang.
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Speaker 1: Investigators say Jang's killing maya stemmed from road rage. Those
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Speaker 1: who knew Jang here in the Chicago area are anxious
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Speaker 1: for and arrest. It will give some of us who
30:18
Speaker 1: are upset with what happened to Kevin a little bit
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Speaker 1: of closure. Pan is believed to be somewhere in the Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: Georgia area. US marshals are offering up to a ten
30:28
Speaker 1: thousand dollar reward to help catch him. That was not
30:33
Speaker 1: the motive at all. It was not road rage. Listen
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Speaker 1: to our cut twenty two our friend Erica Arius at
30:39
Speaker 1: Fox sixty one. US marshals have now secured an international
30:43
Speaker 1: ward for the man wanted for the death of a
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Speaker 1: Yale grad student. Kevin Jang was killed two months ago,
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Speaker 1: back on February six, and now that we know, US
30:52
Speaker 1: marshals have secured an Interpol red notice for this man here,
30:56
Speaker 1: twenty nine year old Change Swan Pond. Now he was
31:00
Speaker 1: just a person of interest in the case, but he
31:02
Speaker 1: is now a suspect and we're told he will be
31:05
Speaker 1: charged with murder once he's tracked down. It's unclear if
31:08
Speaker 1: investigators are sure he is out of the country or
31:11
Speaker 1: where he may be heading. He is from China. Potter
31:14
Speaker 1: was last seen less than a week after John's death
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Speaker 1: in Georgia. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace straight out to
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Speaker 1: IRV Brand, former US Marshall's Service International Investigations, author of
31:42
Speaker 1: Flying Solo Top of the World on Amazon or Brand.
31:46
Speaker 1: What exactly is an international warrant and how is it
31:49
Speaker 1: different from any other arrestairant. Well, the arrestairrant, once it's
31:53
Speaker 1: adopted by the US Marshal Service, would go to their representative,
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Speaker 1: that Interpulse and they would immediately do what's called the
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Speaker 1: dissemination of the warrant. It looks like a red notice,
32:06
Speaker 1: it has the Interpole logo, and they would send it
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Speaker 1: out to whatever countries they suspect the suspect may be
32:17
Speaker 1: fleeing to. Then while this is going on, they would
32:22
Speaker 1: work through the Assistant United States Attorney to obtain a
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Speaker 1: red notice to be published to all member countries at Interpol,
32:34
Speaker 1: especially in this case, he has such tight connections in China. Correct. Correct,
32:41
Speaker 1: It would be a high priority case, and you know
32:46
Speaker 1: they would send out the disseminations immediately, even before the
32:50
Speaker 1: red notice was published, so countries would have a warranting
32:57
Speaker 1: that this was coming that a red notice would would
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Speaker 1: follow once it was signed off by the legal section
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Speaker 1: of the Interpulse. Her view is reportedly spotted in Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: and I can't help but believe he was trying to
33:12
Speaker 1: leave the hot spot the northeastern states in the US
33:15
Speaker 1: and get to the Atlanta Airport now for its international flights.
33:19
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that would be a good assumption. Also,
33:23
Speaker 1: when you got to remember, in a fugitive's mind, they
33:29
Speaker 1: figure they're the center of attention of the entire world.
33:32
Speaker 1: They're paranoid. To go to an international airport like Hartsfield
33:38
Speaker 1: International that has such a law enforcement presence would take
33:44
Speaker 1: someone with a mendous amount of nerve, you know, to
33:50
Speaker 1: walk in there and walk past all those police officers
33:53
Speaker 1: to go through this security checkpoint. It may have been
33:57
Speaker 1: his intention. He may have pulled in to the parking
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Speaker 1: lot and hearts Field and changed his mind, you know,
34:05
Speaker 1: just figuring I'm going to get caught if I walk
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Speaker 1: into this area. Exactly How hard is it or brand
34:13
Speaker 1: to get the states, the US states to cooperate with
34:17
Speaker 1: each other when you know your murder suspect is on
34:20
Speaker 1: the run and crossing state lines. Well, that's where the
34:26
Speaker 1: US Marshal Service comes in, and that's where they thrive.
34:28
Speaker 1: That's what they're best at. They have seven regional Fugitive
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Speaker 1: task Forces that cover the United States. Then they also
34:36
Speaker 1: have multiple offices and every judicial district, every one of
34:41
Speaker 1: the ninety four judicial districts in the United States, and
34:46
Speaker 1: their fugitive investigative network is extensive, I mean the largest
34:51
Speaker 1: in the world, and you know, made up of task
34:54
Speaker 1: force officers, state, local, federal, tribal police, I mean everywhere.
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Speaker 1: So you know, once the Marshal Service gets their hands
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Speaker 1: on it, the resources at their disposal as unparalleled. It's unmatched.
35:13
Speaker 1: And I've always said about fugitives, you don't want to
35:19
Speaker 1: get the undivided attention of the United States Marshals. Now
35:23
Speaker 1: you don't know, you don't. I first learned a lot
35:26
Speaker 1: about the US Marshals when my investigator and the Fulton
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Speaker 1: County DA's office, Robert McMichael, left our office, and I
35:37
Speaker 1: loved him so much. He had an NFL ring. He's
35:42
Speaker 1: this huge guy, and we went everywhere together in my
35:46
Speaker 1: first year or so at the office investigating cases. He
35:50
Speaker 1: went on to become the US Marshal for the Northern
35:53
Speaker 1: District of Georgia, and when I learned what he did
35:59
Speaker 1: for the US Marshal Service. It's amazing the power in
36:03
Speaker 1: the reach of the US Marshals. Well, this guy, this
36:07
Speaker 1: guy on the run. Pan was now idiot, but listen
36:13
Speaker 1: to our cut twenty nine NBC. After a looting capture
36:17
Speaker 1: for three months, Shing Shuan Pawn was described by prosecutors
36:21
Speaker 1: as a danger to society and a serious flight risk.
36:24
Speaker 1: New Haven Superior Court Judge Brian Fisher agreed and sent
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Speaker 1: a very strong message setting bond at twenty million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Pawn is accused of murdering Yale student and US Army
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Speaker 1: veteran Kevin Jang on the evening of February sixth, Please
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Speaker 1: say they found Jang faced down in a New Haven
36:42
Speaker 1: street with multiple gunshot wounds to the head. Paon was
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Speaker 1: identified as a person of interest and pursuit stretched from
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Speaker 1: Connecticut to Alabama. Prosecutors say when Pon was arrested Friday,
36:52
Speaker 1: he was in possession of nineteen thousand dollars in cash,
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Speaker 1: seven cell phones, seven simcards, and his father's passport. While
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Speaker 1: the state asked for bond to be set at fifty
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Speaker 1: million dollars, the judge said it at twenty million. Alexis
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Speaker 1: Terscha joining me crime online dot Com investigative reporter. It
37:10
Speaker 1: sounds like Scott Peterson all over again. Remember how Peterson
37:15
Speaker 1: had all that cash, fake his brother's driver's license, all
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Speaker 1: sorts of camping gear, a ton of viagra. I guess
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Speaker 1: he's going to need that on the run. But here
37:27
Speaker 1: you've got Pam with nineteen grand, seven cell phone, seven simcars,
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Speaker 1: and his father's passport. Totally on the run and with
37:36
Speaker 1: a passport. It means he was going to try and
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Speaker 1: leave the country. No wonder his mail's at twenty million.
37:42
Speaker 1: That's exactly what it. And remember Scott also had bleached
37:45
Speaker 1: his hair blonde, as if he thought that that little
37:48
Speaker 1: surfer haird could stop people from recognizing him after his
37:51
Speaker 1: face was flush all over the world for murdering his wife.
37:54
Speaker 1: But that was the thing was on. He was hiding out.
37:57
Speaker 1: It is in months since he shot Jang and he
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Speaker 1: was it appeared with his father's passport that he was
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Speaker 1: going to flee the country. Now they want a bond reduction.
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Speaker 1: Pan has already been arraigned, but he will come back
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Speaker 1: into court and the days to come he will give
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Speaker 1: a formal entry of a not guilty plea and we
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Speaker 1: are headed to trial the arrest warrant reveals a lot
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Speaker 1: about the evidence they've got so far against paying Pan.
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Speaker 1: What do we know so far, alexis? What is the evidence?
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Speaker 1: So much evidence? Let's start with the scene. They have
38:37
Speaker 1: the bullet, however, they don't have the guns. But what
38:40
Speaker 1: they do have are multiple witnesses, so many people, and
38:45
Speaker 1: there is security footage that shows the initial car accidents,
38:49
Speaker 1: the snow accident, I would call it a crash. He
38:52
Speaker 1: goes and gets sur rental car and we have those
38:55
Speaker 1: documents in surveillance video that was laid another car reported
38:59
Speaker 1: lost or stolen. He's using a different car than his
39:03
Speaker 1: own or anything connected to him. It was no accident.
39:07
Speaker 1: The video shows us and not alexis Toures chuck. He
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Speaker 1: intentionally rammed Kevin from behind? Yes, it does. And then
39:15
Speaker 1: it shows Kevin getting out of the car. I'm sorry,
39:17
Speaker 1: that's not true. You cannot see Kevin get out of
39:19
Speaker 1: the car because they move a little bit and it
39:21
Speaker 1: moves out of the scene front the camera lens, so
39:26
Speaker 1: but you can see the initial crash. So then they
39:29
Speaker 1: have all of the DNA evidence there. Do you know
39:31
Speaker 1: what it's found in the car that Pon drove away? Blood.
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Speaker 1: There is blood in the middle console because he's shooting somebody,
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Speaker 1: you know, three times fired eight eight times. He has
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Speaker 1: blood on him and they find his blood, Kevin's blood
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Speaker 1: inside the car. Also in the car they find a mask.
39:49
Speaker 1: Remember again COVID nineteen he had one point had had
39:52
Speaker 1: a mask on. The mask has ponds DNA on it.
39:55
Speaker 1: To doctor Michel d pre former forensic pathologists, medical exam
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Speaker 1: amer doctor Dupree, shot multiple times bleeding out on the
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Speaker 1: street five hundred feet while his fiance from his fiance
40:11
Speaker 1: waiting inside. How long did he live? Remember he took
40:16
Speaker 1: the first shot and then according to police, pan comes
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Speaker 1: up and shoots him in the face. What did he
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Speaker 1: endure before death? Nancy, It's likely that he was terrified.
40:28
Speaker 1: The first shot brought him down. He knows what happened.
40:32
Speaker 1: Then he sees the shooter standing over him. He is
40:35
Speaker 1: He's terrified, he's fearful, he's scared. It likely took him
40:39
Speaker 1: probably a minute or two until he lost consciousness and
40:43
Speaker 1: then eventually bled out. Just think of what Kevin's mother
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Speaker 1: and fiance are going through. This was her only child.
40:52
Speaker 1: To think of him dying in the street, slowly losing
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Speaker 1: consciousness before he shot in the face over one, I
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Speaker 1: for one, cannot wait for the trial to commence. Nancy
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Speaker 1: Gray's Crime Story, signing off goodbye,