Latest / Aussie Bourbon Lovers / Old Forester Statesman and What the Top of the Rickhouse Tastes like
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- 0:00Incredible flavours, even better stories.
- 0:05One more, 10 minutes.
- 0:07Aussie bourbon lovers, sharing bourbon with Australia.
- 0:15Are we sitting to get more closely together or something?
- 0:17Because you nearly punched me when you opened that.
- 0:20The Cooke had a lot of, I don't even know what a scientific word behind that.
- 0:27You've been giving him very little in terms of what's happening here.
- 0:31Speaking of giving for someone very little, we're just going to look at it and
- 0:36imagine that there's something in our glass, are we?
- 0:38What are we having? Is it an odd edge?
- 0:39We are having an old forester statesman.
- 0:42Dave, it's got a- Great.
- 0:44It's smelling good already.
- 0:45This is-I can't even see it, but it's got a normal Old Forrester bottle, but a
- 0:49beautiful Statesman written underneath it.
- 0:52I really can't. Yeah.
- 0:55Don't try to get the focus on it.
- 0:57Let's cheers instead so I can get stuck into it.
- 0:59Old Forrester All right.
- 1:01We've been to Old Forrester in the distiller experience in Louisville.
- 1:05We have. And we've spoken about it before.
- 1:07It was wonderful.
- 1:08What's your favourite thing about...
- 1:09Oh, my goodness, this is smelling good already.
- 1:12Got right to your nose.
- 1:13What are you getting on your nose? Oh, yeah.
- 1:16I'm getting banana lollies, but not that crazy, intense,
- 1:21howl-a-head banana lollies, but like, lovely sticky sweetness.
- 1:26Like This is going to sound weird, but you know that?
- 1:32That chopping board smell before you put out lots of yummy fruit?
- 1:38You just meant chopping board. It smells like a chopping board.
- 1:41I know.
- 1:42When you're putting together a chopping board.
- 1:45And I was like, the chopping board, that woody smell.
- 1:50But then you've got all the dried fruit and the cheese.
- 1:53That's what it makes me think of.
- 1:54I haven't spent much time putting together a chopping board.
- 1:57No, like a platter.
- 1:59Yeah, okay. All right.
- 2:00I get it. But it smells like the wood?
- 2:02Well, it's got that woody smell, but also fruity to me.
- 2:06That's just the memory it gave me.
- 2:08Was instantly like that nice wooden chopping board with the
- 2:11fresh dried fruit and cheese.
- 2:14The more I'm getting air on it, I am getting a lot more wood on it as well.
- 2:21Where did we begin? Old Forrester.
- 2:23Why is it only spelled with one R?
- 2:25Because they changed his name at one point.
- 2:27Out of respect, they dropped one of the R's.
- 2:29Is that right? Do you remember why it was?
- 2:32No. Because he died.
- 2:34Out of respect for him dying, they got rid of one of the R's from his name.
- 2:38Dr. Forrester, is that right? Yes.
- 2:39Yeah, he was a doctor because they stayed open during Prohibition because they
- 2:42had- This is before that as well, yeah. Yeah.
- 2:44But when he died, they dropped an R from the name, and now it's Old Forrester.
- 2:47It was the first ever bottled bourbon, and they talk a lot about that.
- 2:50But Old Forrester is one of my favourite expressions.
- 2:53Can I let you in on a secret about this expression of Old Forrester?
- 2:58The Statesman one?
- 3:00Yes. Tell me.
- 3:01I think it's my least favourite.
- 3:03Least favourite bourbon or least favourite out of the Old Forrester collection?
- 3:06Oh, my least favourite is Old Forrester. Why is that?
- 3:09Because Old Forrester is so good. They're very deserty.
- 3:12This to nose has more of a Like I said, a woody, not as much as a desserty.
- 3:17Stop just smelling it. Could you taste a bit, please?
- 3:19Because this is the reason, and I think you're going to say out loud what my
- 3:25experience of it is, which is what's that experience for you in your mouth?
- 3:30How are you finding that when you drink that?
- 3:32It tastes nice, but it feels weird.
- 3:36Not weird.
- 3:37It definitely leaves like a…
- 3:39It's not smooth.
- 3:41What does it feel like?
- 3:45I don't know.
- 3:46It's that woody feeling, like that expression I say when I
- 3:50feel like I've licked the barrel.
- 3:53I don't think you would lick a barrel.
- 3:55But it tastes nice, but it just leaves It's a different feeling in your mouth.
- 4:02It's a bit thin.
- 4:03To me, it has a little bit of a burn on it that is a bit unusual, actually,
- 4:08for Old Forest, certainly.
- 4:09But bourbons we drink all sorts of bourbons, an expensive
- 4:12and inexpensive ones.
- 4:14To me, the drinking experience is my least favourite thing.
- 4:18I agree with you, the flavour is pretty good.
- 4:20Old Forest is one of my favourites, but that's different.
- 4:24It's not as deserty as how I would describe it, not as deserty
- 4:26as some of the others. Who talks about it?
- 4:28Someone talks about this thing of bourbon was- Someone who knows
- 4:32what they're talking about. I reckon it was Maker's Mark.
- 4:33I reckon it's Maker's Mark.
- 4:34They were the first started talking about it, that Maker's Mark was that they were
- 4:37trying to interrupt the idea that bourbon was supposed to make you feel like a
- 4:42cowboy and feel tough when you You did feel tough drinking this one.
- 4:46Because it had hurt you when it went down.
- 4:47Yeah, but I feel like this has got a little…
- 4:49I'm sure it's not as rough as the old- But that adds to the statesman side of it.
- 4:54Didn't you say it had something to do with it came out the same time
- 4:56as the Kingsman movie?
- 4:57Yeah, I don't know the specifics of whether or not- You just made it still up.
- 5:00No, it's inspired by the Kingsman movie. I love those movies.
- 5:04Can I tell you a little bit about it?
- 5:05Because it's made from the barrels that are at the top part of the rickhouse.
- 5:09So that's the way they make this expression, 95 proof.
- 5:14So that's 47. 5% or whatever that is.
- 5:17And that's how they make it.
- 5:19So it's the highest part, which means, theoretically, it ages the quickest.
- 5:24Quickest.
- 5:24Maybe that's why it's got that little bit of a rough edge on it.
- 5:26Maybe.
- 5:27Maybe it hasn't had enough time to be a bit It has that slightly more
- 5:31mellow-Describe it as the delicious old forested taste with a little
- 5:34bit of a rough edge on it. It's a statesman.
- 5:36It definitely has that caramel-iness and all that stuff.
- 5:39And it's picked up some awards and stuff.
- 5:41It's not that I don't like it, but it's You prefer the gentle or smoother ones
- 5:46rather than ones that make you feel like a cowboy.
- 5:50I'm not really going for the cowboy thing.
- 5:52Yeah, but some people might be.
- 5:54You asked me, is that one you can get in Australia?
- 5:56Yeah.
- 5:58I reckon it's probably the easiest I don't have an Old Forester yet.
- 6:01In Australia, in my view, at least. I could be wrong.
- 6:04Maybe.
- 6:04Maybe we just have a glut of it or something, but I feel like
- 6:06you can see it everywhere.
- 6:07I do love the desertiness of an Old Forester range, but this would be on the
- 6:11end of the non-deserty end of the ones I've had, because I love Old Forester.
- 6:17There definitely, to me, though, is still that sweetness.
- 6:20It's like a, I don't know, almost like cinnamon, vanilla-y,
- 6:25almost donut-y-ness or something to it. But it's just…
- 6:29I don't even It's like a dry fruit.
- 6:31It's like a thin finish.
- 6:33You know how sometimes it's like a syrupy-It doesn't lose
- 6:35that creamy, thick, smooth coat.
- 6:39It's more of it.
- 6:39You definitely get that woody flavour, which is nice, but not…
- 6:44I I prefer the deserty, rich ones.
- 6:46If the Aussie bourbon fans who are tuning in want to experience some Old Forest of
- 6:51Goodness, and some of the other expressions as well,
- 6:54what can they do when they go to Kentucky? What can they do?
- 6:58They can start by going Kentucky, going to a tour at the distillery.
- 7:02You get to see them light things on fire.
- 7:06One of the coolest, the most Disneyland of the- You really got to experience
- 7:11them putting the barrel together and they lit it all up and then Well, there's
- 7:15a real Cooper who works upstairs. Yeah.
- 7:17It was like some of the others, they talk about that stuff and they show you
- 7:21bits of wood or barrels and tell you.
- 7:23But at Old Forest, they show you that stuff, which I really loved.
- 7:27You got to go down and look at the Is it the charcoal that they
- 7:31strain it all through?
- 7:33That's just dumping. They don't strain it through.
- 7:35Dump it, yeah.
- 7:36But then you got to see all of that messiness, I suppose, that's
- 7:40behind the scenes, which is… Yeah.
- 7:44I really thought you- And they sell great T-shirts, too.
- 7:46Yeah, I thought you…
- 7:47I knew you'd get T-shirts, but there's another part of the story you haven't
- 7:50taken us to about Old Forrester.
- 7:51Which one, Dave?
- 7:52I feel like it's low-hanging fruit for you.
- 7:54Right. You could just tell us.
- 7:56It's the Madesca.
- 7:57Oh, yes.
- 8:00I love them.
- 8:01I think we talked about them most of the last ones.
- 8:05I don't mind. You want to talk about them again?
- 8:07Well, you do, don't you?
- 8:08No, I talked about them last time. Okay.
- 8:10Well, so when you do the tour at Old Forrester, it's not uncommon on a tour at
- 8:15a Burberry Distillery that they'll have a-They often do the tastings with
- 8:18lots of different yummy things.
- 8:19Yeah, a particular handmade chocolate that's special to that distillery.
- 8:23Old Forrester have what they call a Madesca, which I don't think
- 8:26I've ever had anywhere else ever.
- 8:28I think it's specific to that region.
- 8:30It's a cross between a smore and a chocolate and a caramel.
- 8:33It's like a- It's chewing, marshmallowy, caramely, coverage chocolate.
- 8:37Yeah, it's delicious.
- 8:39And it goes really well with Old Forester.
- 8:42Just as we've been talking about it, I've been a little bit transported
- 8:45to that tasting room.
- 8:47When you're on one of your work trips and I wasn't there, I made you go
- 8:50back and get more, didn't I?
- 8:51You did, actually. You did.
- 8:52In fact- I came back with a few bags of chocolate in your- You've
- 8:56recently been trying to convince me to do another one of those work trips, and I've
- 9:00had to resist because he was so insistent about me going on this.
- 9:04There was a conference so close. I know.
- 9:06You could have topped up our supply of the ones we can't get.
- 9:11What a remarkable problem we have. Amazing.
- 9:14Terrible. So what do you reckon?
- 9:16Do you reckon Aussie bourbon trials should get out and get themselves a
- 9:20bottle of this just to try?
- 9:21It's terribly expensive, maybe 60 bucks. Yeah.
- 9:23It definitely is a good introduction.
- 9:25But if you like this, you're going to love the other Old Forrester expressions.
- 9:30And you can get the 80 proof Old Forrester, which is in a a stubbornier
- 9:34bottle with a white label, which is really that's now you're into what I think
- 9:37it was like real Old Forester.
- 9:39And then you get through the other.
- 9:40I definitely give this one a go, especially if you want to be a cowboy.
- 9:47Here's to cowboys. And statesmen.
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