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INTERVIEW: Tezlyn Figaro Talks Kamalas Missteps, Celebrity Roles In Campaigns, Push The Line Movement + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club morning, everybody is d j n V just hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast club along the
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  Speaker 3: roaster feeling And for Jess, we got a special guest
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  Speaker 3: in the building.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, gentlemen. She's back, Miss Teslin figure Oh, welcome back.
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  Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, Hello, are you feeling good morning? Good morning?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning? Lord?
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  Speaker 2: How are you feeling this?
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  Speaker 4: Feeling good? I am, I'm really feeling good. It's good
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  Speaker 4: to be back back with family. Chopped up. Which y'all
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  Speaker 4: drop some dimes, named some names.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, here to get well.
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  Speaker 4: We're dropping dimes on test, dropping downs on everybody from
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  Speaker 4: top to bottom.
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  Speaker 2: Let's start right off with the president presidential election. Why
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  Speaker 2: did V P. Harris lose?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Man, I should have rolled my white board that many yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that many yeah. And the reason why it's important, I
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  Speaker 4: literally have my stuff in order because a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people MV said, you know, she lost because of this reason.
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  Speaker 4: She lost because of that. And it's really in the Midwest.
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  Speaker 4: The tornado requires water, humidity, when you know multiple things,
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  Speaker 4: it's not one reason. And when I hear people saying,
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  Speaker 4: you know, oh, if he just did better, with the
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  Speaker 4: messaging or if they did better with the media. I've
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  Speaker 4: really kind of put together a list of flowchart on
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  Speaker 4: how basically a colossal fuck up from top to bottom.
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  Speaker 4: So you're doing, yeah, we're doing optops, we're doing to
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  Speaker 4: pull out tops. So if we just really take it
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  Speaker 4: from the top, as we all said, Joe Biden should
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  Speaker 4: have never ran. We have to first, you know, start there.
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  Speaker 4: Should have never ran. He said it was a one time,
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  Speaker 4: it was gonna be a one term president. We talked
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  Speaker 4: about it multiple times. He actually volunteered that life to say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I'm only going to run one term. I'm coming in
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  Speaker 4: just to stop Trump immediately. Then they should have started
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  Speaker 4: building a base immediately right out the gate. Trump was
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  Speaker 4: still campaigning this entire time. We talked about it. We
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  Speaker 4: talked about how it was constant rallies, constant organizing. You
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  Speaker 4: and I talked about it on the Van Jones Show.
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  Speaker 4: We're saying, you guys really have to continue the organizing
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  Speaker 4: year round. And that's why I blame a lot of
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  Speaker 4: the people at the top who have the ear of
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  Speaker 4: the you know, of the candidates and Campaignton's because they've
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  Speaker 4: been told this multiple multiple times so it should have
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  Speaker 4: found a white man right then and there. Who was
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  Speaker 4: going to be next in line to build a white man,
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  Speaker 4: a white man, absolutely young white man, right then and there.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not Governor Newso, by the way, a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people keep saying that govern Newson will get swamped.
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  Speaker 2: So did think Kamala was gonna win? No, right at
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  Speaker 2: the game? No, no, no, question's a black woman.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, so that that's number three. So let's first
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  Speaker 4: get that. So they should have establish a bitch and
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  Speaker 4: didn't do that. Governor knew somebody just want to put
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  Speaker 4: that out there. A lot of people like him, great debater,
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  Speaker 4: he would have got swamped. You have to remember he
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  Speaker 4: literally passed to be O K through twelve to have
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  Speaker 4: shared bathroom to a gender. So imagine what conservatives would
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  Speaker 4: have did with that all over the nation, the homelessness
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  Speaker 4: and all of that. So then, yes, number three, America
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  Speaker 4: was not going to vote for a woman of color period.
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  Speaker 4: And know, in the history of black women and white
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  Speaker 4: women allyship a leeged allyship, I have never known a
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  Speaker 4: white woman to give a job to a woman of
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  Speaker 4: color before they got it. That includes even McDonald's on fries,
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  Speaker 4: just not gonna have you ever if a white woman
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  Speaker 4: ever said you know what, I think you're more qualified,
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  Speaker 4: go ahead and take it. They didn't give it to
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  Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton. They were not going to give it to her.
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  Speaker 4: I know there was hope. I know you talked about,
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  Speaker 4: you know, believing in us, but it was never about
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  Speaker 4: us believing in us. It was about us knowing them.
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  Speaker 4: It's not about being qualified. This was when it came
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  Speaker 4: down to saying, they didn't give it to Hillary Clinton,
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  Speaker 4: why would they give it to Harris? So that was
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  Speaker 4: to me an era right out the gate. But we
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  Speaker 4: had no choice because Biden.
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  Speaker 5: I think Kamalot as a black woman is the only
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  Speaker 5: read well first of all two things the last two elections,
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  Speaker 5: the Democratic Party need to be thinking black women, right,
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  Speaker 5: because if it wasn't for Jim Clyde Burn telling Joe Biden, hey,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not endorsing you unless you promise that you're gonna
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  Speaker 5: put a black woman on the Supreme Court, I'm not
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  Speaker 5: endorsing you. So that's what made him endorse Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 5: He went South Carolina and changed the complexion of his campaign.
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  Speaker 5: If it wasn't for Kamala Harris in twenty twenty I
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  Speaker 5: think a lot of us wouldn't have went out there
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  Speaker 5: and voted for President Biden.
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  Speaker 1: I didn' vote for Psident Biden. I voted Vice presid
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  Speaker 1: Kamala Harss.
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  Speaker 5: I also think in twenty twenty four, when you look
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  Speaker 5: at the fact that Joe Biden's presidency was dead, like
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  Speaker 5: completely dead in the water, and Kamala Harris came to
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  Speaker 5: the top of the ticket, raised all of this money,
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  Speaker 5: ended up having the second most votes of any Democratic
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  Speaker 5: nominee ever with seventy four million votes.
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  Speaker 1: I think that only happens because she's a black one.
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  Speaker 4: Well, two things can be true at the same time.
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  Speaker 4: There can be some positives that came with that, but
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  Speaker 4: there also can be some negatives. Where we look at
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  Speaker 4: the data, we don't have to guess. We looked at
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  Speaker 4: where white women aligned, We looked at where the Latino
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  Speaker 4: community aligned. We looked at the bottom line data.
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  Speaker 1: This show Latino men was that was a surprise?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, why was it a surprise? No, No, Latinos have
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  Speaker 4: always fifty fifty. They've always When you look at one,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I organized for the Bernie Sanders campaign in Michigan.
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  Speaker 4: I was the only black woman on the ground in
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  Speaker 4: twenty fifteen to helped lift that state. Latino community has
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  Speaker 4: always been divided. When you look at Florida and you
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  Speaker 4: look at the Cuban community, they've always went conservative. When
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  Speaker 4: you look at the Bernie Sanders the left side the California,
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  Speaker 4: they always go left. They have always strategied, and I
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  Speaker 4: ain't mad about it. They've always strategically been able to
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  Speaker 4: have leverage because they go fifty to fifty. You remember
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  Speaker 4: when Joe Biden told black leaders when he won, right
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  Speaker 4: after you said yeah, right in you said, I owe
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  Speaker 4: you black people. Remember when they had the meeting and
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  Speaker 4: they leaked the tapes in front of the Al Sharpton
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  Speaker 4: and all them and say, y'all need to go follow
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  Speaker 4: the Latino community because they're the ones that have the leverage.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not mad at it, but we need to
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  Speaker 4: talk about it for what it is. There might be
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  Speaker 4: a black and brown coalition in New York. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I've talked about that all the time, but when you're
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  Speaker 4: talking about the set that changed too, they're moving over.
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  Speaker 4: When you talk about the South, when you talk about
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  Speaker 4: the Midwest, and particularly when we talk about the West,
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  Speaker 4: there is no black brown coalition and it's okay for
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  Speaker 4: people to vote their interests. Also, got news for you,
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  Speaker 4: black men are conservative. Doing my Joe Biden whisper black
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  Speaker 4: people are conservative. I don't know why people want to keep,
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  Speaker 4: you know, making that not an issue. So when you're
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  Speaker 4: talking about black men and you're talking about other black
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  Speaker 4: black people with a majority of the country in the South,
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  Speaker 4: majority of moderate I know progressives want to sell a
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  Speaker 4: different story. But black people, for the most part of
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  Speaker 4: Martyr and a lot of them lean conservative. Were gonna
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  Speaker 4: get into that when we get into the messaging. But
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  Speaker 4: let's just kind of go back a little bit. I
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  Speaker 4: agreed that there was some positives to it, but when
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  Speaker 4: it came down to it, when we looked at race,
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  Speaker 4: white women, to me, just like they did in the midterm,
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  Speaker 4: just like they did when they were with Obama. Then
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  Speaker 4: they went with Trump, and then they went back to
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  Speaker 4: Democrats in the mid terms, and then they flipped back.
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  Speaker 4: When you're talking about white supremacy and talking about positioning
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  Speaker 4: like what they did with the women suffrage movement, I
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  Speaker 4: just didn't see them doing it for a black woman
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  Speaker 4: over them. They didn't do it with Hillary Clinton, the
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  Speaker 4: only person that ever beat Donald Trump is Joe Biden,
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  Speaker 4: and I agree with, but.
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  Speaker 5: White women voting for Clinton fifty five percent voting for Biden.
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  Speaker 5: So the white women been showing out white women, White
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  Speaker 5: women have showed three elections well.
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  Speaker 4: But but they were also comfortable with Joe Biden. Let's
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  Speaker 4: remember Joe Biden is one of them.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go back to what fifty five percent of white
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  Speaker 5: women voted for Trump over Biden.
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  Speaker 4: Right to align with white supremacy to a lot, because
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  Speaker 4: this is about white supremacy. This is about would they
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  Speaker 4: rather have their household ahead of you as as a
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  Speaker 4: black man, their husbands. That's exactly something's wrong and people
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  Speaker 4: need to stop these pundents. Get them another They went
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  Speaker 4: against their own interest. No, their interest is their household.
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  Speaker 4: Your interest is your interest. My interest is my interest.
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  Speaker 4: When I keep hearing people say that they went against
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  Speaker 4: their own interests, no, they've actually aligned with their interest,
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  Speaker 4: which is white man, white woman, black man, black woman.
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  Speaker 4: That's the order, that's how it is. Black people on
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  Speaker 4: the side, check bottom line. We need to just accept that.
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  Speaker 4: I know we want to say black girl, imagine over,
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  Speaker 4: we want to say oh, because black this and that
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  Speaker 4: black women can't save this country. We need to stop
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  Speaker 4: selling that dream. Let's get in position and understand what
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  Speaker 4: we can do, which is why I was talking about
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  Speaker 4: the local and state level, and stop trying to sell
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  Speaker 4: this timeshare scam because to me, it was a timeshair scam.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you that there was really no other
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  Speaker 4: choice because Joe Biden was trash. We get that he
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  Speaker 4: was trash. So once they said, okay, let's rally around Harris.
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  Speaker 4: Now she's a Democratic nominee. Okay, so cool, we're with that.
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  Speaker 4: Black women raised thirty million dollars after Gate. Black men
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  Speaker 4: raised thirty million ours Gate. So now we're having to
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  Speaker 4: deal with who dropped this bag? Who dropped this billion
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  Speaker 4: dollar bag? And that's the issue when we get into
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  Speaker 4: how they spent the money. I didn't think she had
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  Speaker 4: a chance in hell. But once you decided to move forward, okay,
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  Speaker 4: so what do we do with the money? Black voters?
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  Speaker 4: They lost Black voters across the board. That across the
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  Speaker 4: board makes a difference when you're talking about Michigan, makes
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  Speaker 4: a difference in North Carolin. So that's where we're getting
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  Speaker 4: to your concern where you talk about messaging, where the
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  Speaker 4: messaging was all wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the money.
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  Speaker 3: Is it normal for candidates to give so much money
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  Speaker 3: to quote unquote entertainment when you're seeing that they paid
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  Speaker 3: this person to speak and this person to have that back.
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  Speaker 3: Is that normal when it comes to politics?
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  Speaker 1: Who did they pay to speak?
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  Speaker 4: Though?
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  Speaker 2: Well, allegedly, we'll say any people speak, you.
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  Speaker 4: Get to pay the speed. But the money that it
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  Speaker 4: took to get the set up, the advanced team, the entertainment.
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  Speaker 4: So let's go back a little bit. One hundred days
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  Speaker 4: was impossible even for a white man. In my opinion,
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  Speaker 4: I just want to go back to one hundred days.
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  Speaker 4: Running a campaign was damn near impossible for anybody in
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  Speaker 4: particularly a woman of color. So now we're in this
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  Speaker 4: one hundred day thing. In order to get people to
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  Speaker 4: come out, we do use entertainers, and I push back
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  Speaker 4: on people say don't use entertainers. It's important killer Mike
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  Speaker 4: talks about it all the time. We need entertainers to mobilize.
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  Speaker 4: When you're trying to get that standfield the twenty thirty
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  Speaker 4: thousand people, you have three days to do it. We
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  Speaker 4: actually need our entertainers. The problem, though, env is the
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  Speaker 4: entertainers not necessarily being aligned with organizers on how to
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  Speaker 4: use their voice throughout the year. I would love to
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  Speaker 4: see pliers like work when an organizer throughout the year,
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  Speaker 4: not just election season, so that we can continue to
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  Speaker 4: have this conversation. So I don't want to shit on entertainments.
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  Speaker 4: We need them. But when you have one hundred days
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  Speaker 4: and you're spending more on entertainment setups and not on
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  Speaker 4: the ground, and you have organizations like until Freedom to
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  Speaker 4: make the matter they got and again we can look
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  Speaker 4: at the numbers. The numbers are available online, guy, So
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  Speaker 4: this ain't making it up. When you're giving organizations like
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  Speaker 4: that one hundred and fifty thousand dollars and telling them
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  Speaker 4: we'll make it do what to do, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 4: No war is won by just the air force. I'm
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  Speaker 4: an Air Force veteran. You need the air force. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: you need the big entertainers, you need the media, you
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  Speaker 4: need the podcast that's the air. But you also need
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  Speaker 4: the ground, you need marines, and you need the army.
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  Speaker 4: And they bottom line, took black voters for granted, like
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  Speaker 4: we've been talking about for years. They figure, well, you
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  Speaker 4: know she's black, so that'll be fine. They literally shit
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  Speaker 4: it on organizations one hundred year organizations got seventy five
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  Speaker 4: thousand dollars, one hundred thousand dollars. One hundred black men.
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  Speaker 4: I believe they got like seventy five thousand, hundred thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 4: So what is that saying on how you're trying to organiz,
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  Speaker 4: you know, with black men. So that's an issue when
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  Speaker 4: we talk about this billion dollar back, and not just
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  Speaker 4: because of now envy, but also the infrastructure that we're
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  Speaker 4: trying to build. So midterms in March, and I'm independent,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm just giving you know what it looks like
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  Speaker 4: to build this house. You need this money flowing year round.
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  Speaker 4: They're trying to build now. So your opponent is over
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  Speaker 4: building a house with adding on, swimming pools, adding on garages,
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  Speaker 4: adding on all this and then they come give the
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  Speaker 4: money two three weeks before the election is over. Before
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  Speaker 4: the election, Black organizations did not get money until three
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  Speaker 4: weeks before. Literally they told the churches, yeah, nothing they
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  Speaker 4: can do with it, and then saying we're here, go
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  Speaker 4: two hundred thousand dollars. Make a doe to do. And
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  Speaker 4: what I found this time is the gatekeepers got gate
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  Speaker 4: kept because the streets was never getting the money. So
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  Speaker 4: when they were calling me dropping dives, hot tests, and
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  Speaker 4: we only got these only at that last time, we
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  Speaker 4: got a lot of money. I said, I'm here to
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  Speaker 4: tell the streets and never got any of it. But
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  Speaker 4: now as the gatekeepers got gate kept for the first time,
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  Speaker 4: Derrick Johnson literally calling out the campaign in an article saying,
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  Speaker 4: you guys are not spending money with black media. You're
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  Speaker 4: not money on the ground. We are literally starving. Most
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  Speaker 4: of these organizations had to use this money on their own,
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  Speaker 4: and that makes a difference when you're talking about getting
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  Speaker 4: out the vote.
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  Speaker 2: Trump didn't use his money as much for entertainers.
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  Speaker 4: No, he didn't at all. Well, he doesn't get a
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  Speaker 4: lot of earned media get a lot of earn men. Also,
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  Speaker 4: Trump has been organizing and he's never stopped for ten years,
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  Speaker 4: non stop. When you have a rally every month, when
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  Speaker 4: you're engaging people every month, when he's using social media,
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  Speaker 4: when he's using truth, he's okay, Twitter, you don't want
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  Speaker 4: to work with me, cool, I I'll just go start
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  Speaker 4: my own. He has a non stop organizing machine that
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  Speaker 4: democrats just don't do. They don't develop those relationships. They
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  Speaker 4: come in, Okay, we got six months, let's make it
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  Speaker 4: do what to do. So this is the result, and
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  Speaker 4: so people can say, well, that's just ten percent, that's
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  Speaker 4: just one percent, But when you add up those numbers
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  Speaker 4: across the board, it makes a difference. And I also
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  Speaker 4: want to say this, Black Conservitives, I want us to
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  Speaker 4: have more leverage. I also want us to have more
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  Speaker 4: positioning within the Republican Party if you're going to move
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  Speaker 4: over to the Publican side, whereas our leadership, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, when it comes to that, she run again? Can
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  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris run again?
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  Speaker 1: Let's get through our points.
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  Speaker 6: Way before you go to the next thing. I have
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  Speaker 6: a question because it's about what you're talking about. So
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  Speaker 6: you saw Candis Owens going back and forth Miss Tina
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  Speaker 6: knows about Beyonce and Beyonce being involved in the rally
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  Speaker 6: in Houston to the point that Cannis was making it's
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  Speaker 6: kind of what you're saying. Do you think that how
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  Speaker 6: do you utilize a major celebrity like a Beyonce because
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  Speaker 6: she's not going to be on the ground, and what
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  Speaker 6: should Kamala Harris's campaign have done better utilizing a big
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  Speaker 6: celebrity of that nature, because she's getting dragged for it
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  Speaker 6: because they're saying it looks unauthentic, and Cand's owns is
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  Speaker 6: saying it looks unauthentic and this is why you didn't win.
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  Speaker 6: But Beyonce is not going to be outside like you
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  Speaker 6: get what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Like they filled the stadium in Houston to Beyonce.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to feel the stadium. And I'm an
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  Speaker 4: organizer first before I'm a pundits. So when we use
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  Speaker 4: people like that to tell Hooy never knocked on our doors,
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  Speaker 4: I kind of discredit what they're saying. She has to
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  Speaker 4: find talking points to talk about her opponent, period, point blank.
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  Speaker 4: When it comes to Canis owns, I use Killing Mike
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  Speaker 4: as an example. You know our brother Killer Mike. He's
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  Speaker 4: an organizer first. He's always been an organizer before he
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  Speaker 4: was a rapper before, Daniels says, he's an organizer. So
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  Speaker 4: when you go to Atlanta, Georgia, and you don't call
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  Speaker 4: Killer Mike to take you to the same spots that
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  Speaker 4: they took, the same Chick fil A that they took
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  Speaker 4: Trump to, the same the West side of Atlanta had
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  Speaker 4: zero signs on the ground. When you don't utilize a
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  Speaker 4: Killer Mike. They got barbershops all throughout Atlanta, and he's
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  Speaker 4: literally made himself available.
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  Speaker 5: You could have been sitting in a bank HC Food
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: right by the way. And to Ted's point, Killer Mike
• 13:29
  Speaker 5: did make himself available.
• 13:31
  Speaker 4: He made himself a fact. This is a fact. And
• 13:33
  Speaker 4: you shit on that and you think that's not important.
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: When an organizer who literally has him and Tip has
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: literally put mayors in office, that's telling me how you
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: feel about your black outreach. Oh, they'll just do it
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: because she's black. Well, I got news for you. The
• 13:47
  Speaker 4: black vote went the opposite direction. It went the opposite
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: direction because people are getting tired of being taken advantage of.
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: They're being tired of not having this conversation year around Charlemagne.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: And so when you guys did I'm just gonna go
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: ahead and say it. When you did the thing in Michigan, Yeah,
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: Zeke new Ara of Detroit sitting right there in the things.
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: I asked them, Hey, campaign have reached out toll you
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: me laughing, said no, he said none. To me. You
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: can't organize in Detroit and not think you need to
• 14:14
  Speaker 4: talk to a Zeke or a new Ara of Detroit.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: That man not only is organized in Detroit, all over
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: the country. So when you think that people are just
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: going to do it just because thirty three percent of
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: Detroit is living below the poverty line. So what is
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: that telling you? You had Rashida to leave, who organized
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: the Arab American community that literally voted for Trump. Literally,
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: Dearborn voted for Trump. And then you had the black
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: vote that was depressed, meaning just not even interested, saying
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: fuck it, you know the government, it's hurting my pocket.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Voted for Trump.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: Dear Born. Well, you know they had the one hundred thousand.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: They had one hundred thousand people go to the point,
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: this ain't being talked to about enough. One hundred thousand
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: people went to the polls to say we are uncommitted.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: Remember she just sleep literally did a video and said,
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: Joe Biden, we ain't fucking with you until there's a ceasefire.
• 15:00
  Speaker 4: We ain't fucking with you. That was doing the primary.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Your number one opponent was a Democrat elected official in
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Michigan that was literally basically telling voters sort to sit
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: out and had them go to the polls to vote
• 15:15
  Speaker 4: I am uncommitted. So that same Dearborn, which she represents,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: she represents Detroit as well, Dearborn voted for Trump. You
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: look at that, you look at the two three percent
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: of of the black votes. They couldn't get out of Detroit.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: So now you're talking about how you can win Michigan.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Those are the things, you know, the people are not
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: looking at. And Michigan had a lot of leverage, but
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: he won all swing states, you know, so it wasn't
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: just Michigan. But that's a real problem. You got black
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: people starving in Detroit. You got Dearborn asking for ceasefire.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: You got the labor union and this is how we
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: won Michigan with Bernie Sanders. You got the labor union.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: They won't strike all last year and the year before that,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: so those people were pissed. You have the college students
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: who were also pushing you know, anti war and removed
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: college debt was an issue. So those four or five
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: constituents in Michigan made the difference on why you lost.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: So it was a number of things, you know, it's
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: not just one thing over the other. It's a number
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: of things.
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: The podcast was important. It is important to have podcasts.
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: It is important to be able to reach thirty million
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: people at one time. But if you're doing that and
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: you're telling organizations like Until Freedom are organization similar that
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: here go one hundred thousand, and you need to go
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: to seven states and make it work. When you have
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: the Church of God in Christ. Think they got one thousand,
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: two hundred thousand and said, hey, go go make a
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: do what to do? It was impossible?
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: You know what I'd like to see. I agree, you know,
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: I think you got to hit them both right. You
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: got to have a ground game, man, you got to
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: have a mean digital game. I would like to see
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: some of the grassroots activists on the ground. I would
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: like to see them start adapting the social media as well,
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: because I feel like those organizations need it.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, the partnership. It's not just you know
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: one thing. I think a report today said one in
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: every three people get their news with social media. I
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: think it's actually higher than that. So we're not partnering
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: in social media and having that ground game to be
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: you know, to double it up. It's dead in the water.
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: But you still have to have people knocking on those doors.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: And bottom line, they should have just bought boats at
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: this point when you got one hundred days, some of
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: these nonprofits that are out here, somebody in Detroit, you
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: could have funded them. You could have the same way
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Trump had Kwame Kapatrick, you know, the same way they
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: had Harry O. People, Oh what Harry Old doing? That
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: make a difference. So people was looking for partons in
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: clemencies and all that Democrats have pardoned far more than
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Republicans have. I asked Governor Westmore, why are you not
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: talking about I think it was what close to two
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand people that he partoned for marijuana. Why are
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: y'all not talking about that? Why is that not something
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: y'all talking about? So when Trump brings a trick trick
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: from Detroit and people don't shave room, Who's trick trick?
• 17:36
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: No, where is Detroit?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: No?
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: Damn well, who trick trick is? So when people see that,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: they're like, well, shit, I don't know what to believe
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: that one two percent of falling off makes a difference.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Trump capitalized on the lost man, something I've been talking
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: about for fifteen years straight, the hood, which were the
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: lost man, men who felt like they were not being heard,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: people who felt like they were not being understood. Again,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: I'm talking to civic about black people. I'm not talking
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: about this working ass because that translates to white working class.
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about black people who felt like they were
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: not being heard, were not being understood, and Trump capitalized
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: on that. People asked, oh, why did he use Ambrose? Well,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: guess what she's from where?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: That's a swing state, So you don't have to like
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: his shave room. But that was very strategic. It made
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: sense to have ice worar Vesso, you know in Detroit,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: even though in the shave room, who is he? I
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: don't know? He is Detroit. That one or two percent
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: made a difference. Why didn't you reach out to Kawomei
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: Capatrick because he a fela? Is that why you don't
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: think it was important to at least, if nothing else,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: minimize your enemy. There's two things you do in a campaign.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Minimize your enemy, maximize your friends. You didn't even reach
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: out to that man for a conversation. Whether you like
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: what he did in Detroit or not, the man still
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: was elected, His mama was elected. He comes from a
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: very long lineage you know of folks in Detroit, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I think that's even it's worth having the conversation. So
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Trump was able to appear as if he was one
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: of them, which he was not. By the way, he's
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: a white man who obviously, if black man could have
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: never gotten away with what he got with the Fellas,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: but he was able to appear as if he was.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: He was able to appear that connection. Why didn't they
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: talk about what Governor Newsom did in California removing the
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: gang enhancement, removing the gang INHS you got homies who
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: are literally getting on the yard for the very first time.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: If you do the crime due to time, no problem
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: with that. But in California, most people are affiliated with
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: the gang just by based on where you live. So
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Governor Newso has passed great legislation that has allowed people
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: to come home, that has allowed people to actually get
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: on the yard for the very first time. I got
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: ten thousand homies right now in LA that were organized
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: for the next governor just based off that one thing.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: They didn't talk about those things envy because they sit
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: in this elitist positioning, you know, of let's just not
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: talk about that, you know, let's just fell let's go
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: hide and go low. And Trump was able to capitalize
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: on that. That made a difference when you're talking about a
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: ten percent Yeah, I think.
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: I think it's hard for them to capitalize on something
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: like the new some thing because it is something that's
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: regulated to California. Like the first step back was a
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: federal a federal law that people act that. He did
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: a phenomenal job of showing, look, I bought this person home,
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: and I bought that person home, and like there was
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: other people on social media that would talk about, ma'am,
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: my people just came home because of the first step back.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: I actually think the first step back people don't really
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: credit that enough. They want to talk about stimulus checks
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: and PPP loans. But when you can actually see one
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: of your homies come home from prison, that's a big deal.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we saw what happened in real time. But
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to push you back Libit on how
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: you capitalize against that, How you can capitalize when you
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: look at what Governor Moore was able to do the
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: federal when they took the federal for the marijuana.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, simple possesson marijuana.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: You show the connection. So yes, that was federal, right,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: but Governor Moore was able to actually utilize that. Without
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: that federal partnership, it wouldn't have happened. So it does
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: trickle down. But the Democrats never connect the dots to
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: show you this is how it actually works. Federal was
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: able to help the state. State was able to have
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: the local and so on and so forth. So there's
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: ways to do it. They just don't do it, Charlemagne,
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: because they feel as if, you know, let's focus on
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: these imaginary voters. Let's spend all this money on white women.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Let's spend all this money on Yeah. So Trump was
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: able to capitalize on that. Just another Remember this is
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: about margins in the swing state. So when you got
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: one or two percent that's saying I'm sitting on the couch,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: or one or two percent of saying I'm going in
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: a different direction, it makes a difference.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, especially when you look at the election.
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think what Trump had seventy six point
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: one million votes, Harris had seventy four and it's just
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: all those margins. She lost by the margins in a
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: lot of those swings seats.
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: So what you think about Trump's cabinet, and I it's
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: his choices for his cabinet right now, because I mean,
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: these are the people that are gonna have to be Yeah.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I don't think nothing. I think Republicans, ran Democrats, ran
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: is gonna be a dictator. Guess what they want a dictator.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: We've been saying this forever. We've been talking about this
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: day of bipartisanship, and let's just get it through Congress,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: we said, Charlotmane. You know I said a many times,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: like with the the George Floyd to Act reducing college debt,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: do an executive order. Everybody said, you can't do executive order.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: You gotta go through Congress. Republicans are gonna change it back.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: If you get in, they're gonna change it back. Guess
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: what Republicans don't give them about changing the back? They
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: changed backro versus. What about changing back a whole bunch
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: of shit Obombacare and everything else. Democrats refue use to
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: work as a dictator. They want a dictator. Everybody's saying,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: oh man, he's gonna be a dictator, right, that's why
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: they want. Oh, yes, he's gonna take migrants out. Yes,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: that's what they wanted. People need to stop saying that
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: online is driving me crazy. Oh latinos, oh man, oh man,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: y'all about to see. They want the immigrants, people who
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: are legal, who will coming up to the country legal.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: They are literally telling you, Yes, we do. We don't
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: support illegal immigration. So people they're thinking they're saying something
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: on social media, y'all gonna see No, they want a dictator.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: The Democrats ran on democracy, they ran on dictators. Shall
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: gonna be a dictator day one? That's exactly what they want,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: a dictator. Somebody's gonna push the line, somebody't gonna give
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: DMN back what Congress is talking about. Somebody just say
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: I don't I don't care what the rules are. I'm
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: gonna do what I want to do. They want a
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: gangster period.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say dictator, but they want somebody that don't
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: give a fuck, and it's going.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: To He said he was gonna be a dictator on
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: day He said.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: That on day one.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: But I think what people mean when they say they
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: just want somebody that's gonna say, you know what, as
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: long as things are getting done for the people, I
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: don't care how it gets done. Like John Stewart did
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: a great break monologue last night, and he was just
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: like Democrats always follow the norms and Republicans don't follow
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: the norms.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: They gonna find those loopholes to break.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: Which is kind of like dictatorship. Though he said he
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: gonna do what he want to do.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: That's what politically, you ain't gonna play us.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: So I mean, that's saying I'm gonna do this, and
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: if you don't do it, it's gonna be hell to pay.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: If you don't do it, you know, I'm gonna make
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: sure you don't win. If you don't do it, I'm
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: gonna call you out. We talked about this with Joe Manchin.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: They let they set up. Now, Joe Manchine, see this
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: to a Republican. We've been talking about this. This has
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: been going on for the last fifteen years. This loss
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: was not just what happened in the last one hundred days.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: This has been at least from my experience two thousand
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: and seven. I can name year over year over year
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: on what what happened, on how we got And then
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: another thing I wanna bring up on this messaging abortion.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Democrats ran on reproductive rights and democracy failed right out
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: the gate. You had states like Arizona in the bottle
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: that had abortion on the ballot. So democrats mindset is,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: let's put abortion on the ballot and that's gonna bring
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: you know, so people know, get out to vote. Gotv
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: that's how you get out to vote. Oh, they're going
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: to go to the polls now that abortion is on
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: the ballot. Well, Wich, you did meet ballhead. You actually
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: allowed Republican women who were pro choice to actually vote
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: for abortion and still vote for Trump. There's no rule
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: that says if you support pro choice that you won't
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: vote for Trump. So Republican women in Nevada and Arizona
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: literally have the opportunity to bring abortion back and still
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: vote for Trump. So Democrats shot themselves even in the
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: foot if you were expecting women to go vote for
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: reproductive rights because you gave them an out, and then
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: that was a mistake out the gate. Look at Michigan, Michigan.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: You can get an abortion in Michigan, So that gonna
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: land anywhere. I know people want this idea, especially black voters.
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: Coul We like to take care of everybody and old
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: what about them in Texas? But the average person is
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: voting their personal interest, that's it. And if I could
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: get an abortion in Michigan, wou't matter to me if
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: you get it in Arizona or Nevada or whatever it was.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: So when you're running on reproductive rights, which I think
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: was a mistake, and just the Marracy people didn't give
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: a damn about democracy we're talking about when I was
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: sitting in twenty eighteen, those first question you asked me
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: out the gate, what do people think about say the
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: don't give it down his whiteo's Whitehe don't give it
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: about no insurrection. They'll do it again. This is what's
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: been happening in this country four hundred years. So the
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: messaging was wrong at the gate. We talked about that,
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: not running, on the economy, not running. But I still
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: think though even if she should have ran on all
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: of those things, they still was gonna vote for. They
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: still would have rather voted for Joe Biden have dead
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: weekend at Bernie's.
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: You know, they.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Didn't even win Scranton. They didn't even win Scranton. Joe
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: at least won sprinting. Harris lost Scringt.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I think I think Joe would got like sixty five million.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Book said, Okay, So, if if what you're saying is true,
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: what was all because I felt how you how you
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: feel now, It's how I felt in the beginning, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: then when I saw the excitement and the money moving and.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: All of that got a chance.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what was all of that then?
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: I didn't think it was but.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Doing anything. We're not giving you no more money.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Joe have no choice, that's right, yea. So let's be
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: clear they did not have a choice because George. Yeah,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: they said they didn't have no choice. So two things
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: to be true. At the same time, they had to
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: put Harris in no doubt about that. I'm not disagreeing
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: with that, but I still don't think they would have
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: voted for her. They just wouldn't. They're just not going
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: to give something that they didn't get. First. Did she
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: do the best that she could? Yes? Did she do
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: everything they told her to do? Yes? Did she have
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: one hundred days to do it?
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: This is not about shitting on her. This is about
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: setting up a woman to fail in one hundred days
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: to do the damn near impossible. I think Joe Biden
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: should have took that l. He's the one that said,
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: you know, he was gonna run. He's the one that
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: set up there the entire time. They didn't build the bitch,
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: let him take the l. Why now are you putting
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: it on that Yeah? I thought it was like the friendly.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Cana. Would you advise her to run again because.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: It's again we gotta stop with I don't know what
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: this subsession we got with federal I'm gonna keep push that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Let them have it. Let's talk about especially Republicans now
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: saying give it to the state if you really want
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: to make real change in your community. I know it's
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: not as sexy. I know it's not as exciting, but
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: it really is at the state level. It really is
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: at the local level. If you believe in you want
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: to fund the public schools, you can do at a
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: local level. You say, you know what I want, charter schools.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I want to be able to educate our own You
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: can do that at the local level. Why are we
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: so infatuated with this White House. I don't get it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Why not be an Atlanta council with sixteen other people
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: in Orlando with six other people to be able to say,
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna write a check to the Black Business Investment Fund,
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: you know, to be able to say, hey, here's some
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: money to go start a business. You can pass reparations
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: at the local level. So I don't understand this obsession
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: that we have with this federal thing. And I'm gonna
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: be honest with you, Lauren. Black women, a lot of
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: times we get caught up and it's wanting to be validated,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: so damn bad. So when the excitement was there, when
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: everybody's like, oh man, we can do this, we can
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: do this. Black girl masage, we do this, we can
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: do this.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Do this.
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Validation of needing to be affirmed, need to say you
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: are qualified enough, you are good enough. A lot of
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: that played into it. A lot of that played into it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: But let's not forget three thousand black women did a
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: petition and said, Joe Biden, keep your ass in. They
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: ignored that and went with the money. To Charllet Mane's point,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: they didn't have a choice.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, especially about the state thing.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: You know, there's something else Trump said that man landed,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: and I was I'm still trying to figure out how
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: did he land this because it's so hard to get
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: people to focus on this the abortion thing, right, He
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: told them I wanted to be in the hands of
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: the state. So whenever you would have conversations with people about,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: you know, abortions on the ballot, they'd be like, no,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Trump just wants it to be in the hands of
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: the state. I've never seen a politician convinced people on
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: a national level it's going to be local and that's fine,
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: and they buy into it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Well, Trump can get anybody to buy anything he say.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's a total man. Press have never been
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: equipped to run against Trump. Let's just name it. You know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: they've never been equipped to run against them. He's too petty,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: he goes too low, he don't give a damn what
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: y'all talking about the entertainer first, and so they've never
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: been equipped to go against this man. Never. But to
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: your point, charlemage is for those that understand the states' rights.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: And when you go back to Reagan, the reason why
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: black people are again said, is because what it does
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: is to disenfranchisse, disenfranchisse, It disenfranchise us even more so
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: if you're saying, Okay, in Oklahoma, you can't get access
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: to health care, but you can get access to healthcare
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: in California. Very liberal. These are folks that can't just
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: pick up, you know, and go to California to get
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: what they need, don't have the money, So it affects
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: poor people in a very bad way. The states' rights,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: but conservatives, they like states give it to the states.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Their mindset if you don't like it, move somewhere else.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: But none of us had not enough of us have
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: the resources to just move, you know, to somewhere else,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: to just move where things you know may be favorable
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: to you. So as black voters were always trying to
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: carry the lease of these and everybody else and think
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: about everybody else. But the reality is, Charlemagne, people are
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: only looking at what's in front of their doorstep. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: if I can do X y Z in Michigan, if
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: I can have a successful business with zero regulations in
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: Atlanta when cod it happened, when Governor Camp, you know
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of we don't like Governor Camp, but Atlanta,
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Atlanta was still thriving. Black business was still thriving. Georgia
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: was still thriving. So when people look outside their door,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: when remember when the Santas reduced the gas, when they
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: was talking about you can't do nothing about the gas
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: when gas was so high, he said, oh no, I
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: can do something about it. This is why I talking
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: about state. So when people remember that, even though there's
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: more liberal, more Democrat voters in Florida, people remember what
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: affected their pocket and that Republican governor made a difference
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Kemp and Georgia made a difference was passing out Kemp cards.
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: He did the same thing Trump did when he signed
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: his name. He gave them Kemp cards. People remember that.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: So you can have a state with a republic Democrat
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: governor like North Carolina, but they still went with Trump
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: because they're looking at how does it trickle down. You
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: can have a state that flipped and went blue, but
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: have a governor Kemp who's a Republican. People like their governors.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: People don't have to like Texas. You don't have to
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: like Texas in New York, but your money gonna go
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: far in Texas as any felon in Texas they working
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: in oil fields. Eighteen dollars is now twenty five dollars
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: an hour, thirty dollars an hour. That makes a difference.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: So even if they don't like Republicans, even they don't
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: like Trump, when you're looking at how that affects your
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: money daily, it makes a difference. And that's where they
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: lost as far as really trying to understand, you know,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: the economic conversation, especially with black people.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: What else we got on the list because I know
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you've got some money.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: I got a lot on the list. I kind of
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: want to just deal with Michigan quickly because I do
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: have some concern with that. I mentioned Rashida Talied, and
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I'm not mad about you know how she was able
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: to organize her voters, but I do have some concern
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: for Detroit. I do feel as if Detroit does not
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: have the voice that they should have. That Rashida Sali
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: was able and she should I think she she went
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: hard in the paint for she's a Palestinian woman. I
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: expect her to. I have no issue with that, but
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: I do feel like Detroit kind of got crashed out
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: a little bit that there's not representation. Detroit is one
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: of the blackest cities in the country, and so when
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: you had a few enough to say, you know what,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: but I just don't want to be a part of
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: the process anymore. And that entire conversation was on GAZA,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: and I know there's a talking point of progressive is
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: going to come in and tell you that the polls
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: say that black people are concerned about GAZA, and yes
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: we are, we do. We are very compassionate. But if
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: you ask the average black person, Black American on what
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: they're most concerned about, they're talking about again their own
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: front door. They're more concerned about what's happening here over
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: what's happening in geopolitics right, so to be able to
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: be to be a single issue vote. I don't have
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: no problem with Rashida to lead, none at all. But
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: when you have three black women who ran against Rashida's
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: leave in twenty twenty two, all three of them combined
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: still didn't have even half of rashida to leave passed.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: So she has the votes, she has the power. But
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: I feel Detroit is not getting there, just doing at
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: least being a part of the conversation, and I hope
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: that changes what she got on that list. I think
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: that's it list you. I've got some nails with that
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: to go over.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: You know. I wanted to ask you about Hakeem Jeffreys.
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: Hakim Jeffrey said this week that he sees he says
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: Democrats are set up for a major comeback.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: You think that's possible.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: What's the comeback? Let me let me know you come back.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: What's the comeback?
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: I've never seen that that mixtape, but they still do
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: it anyway, and then they don't could.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think first of all,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: and I forgot. I want to name a couple of
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: names because a lot of people ain't name the names.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I do encourage people to go look at that list.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: And the two names that kept popping up over and over.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Quentin no dispect. I've never met him, you know, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: he was in charge of the bag. And also Cedric Richmond.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Now you remember when Cedria Richmond came on the Breakast
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: Club and said hold him accountable. Remember that.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: In a couple of years I've been I don't even
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: listen to after when Cedric made that statement on Breakfast
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Club and said, hold him accountable. If anything doesn't go
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: to way it's supposed to go in to buy an administration.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: And then he just disappeared. He left his position. We
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: didn't even know he left his position. I don't I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: ain't pay static no attention.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Well he literally told Grassroot Organization, y'all just want the
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: money to just say that. Yeah, we're saying that where's it,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: And I'm saying it's completely I didn't ask for no check,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: don't want no check, not interested no check. I was
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: telling you what the people said, you.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Ain't get none of the million.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: I don't, but they told Black.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: People like the money, don't like like you need money
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: for things like why is that such a like a
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: falsehood or something.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: Like, Well, no, they know they they got it and
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: just didn't come to black folks.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: It didn't go.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Sharp didgets We got five hundred thousand. Yeah, Roland
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: got his ship too. Roland, what's having Roller? Can let
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: me hold something?
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: But that money went out and they're still in the negative.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: And study's strange. They do it every year. They've been
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: doing this like this. They do it every year. And
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: it's again, it's not just on the entertainers, these white
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: liberal consultants who run this party. Because they do and
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: then they tell the black folks in charge, the gatekeepers
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: of the gatekeepers to tell them, okay, give them one
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: hundred thousand, give them one hundred and fifty given to it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: They kept lying saying all the money coming to money coming.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: They literally didn't give it to them three weeks until
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: three weeks out. So now now you wonder why you
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: lost the black vote.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: They literally giving them this money for so like for instance,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: rollingd Ont and a reverend.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Now what do they use that money for?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: It?
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: The only reason I said that because you just said
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: that rolling with advertising advertising.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know what that, I don't know what.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Well revenue they gave we really name the names they
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: gave the National Action Network. They gave a donation to him,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: donations of a quarter million dollars. Yes, and so, uh,
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: that organization is an organization, you know, the worst year round,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I guess, you know, allegedly for and I'm not saying that,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: you know, to be funny, but you know, for outreach. So,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: but again, it can't just be on just reven ol.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: You know, it's not just on you know, No, no,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: I'm no, I'm saying I'm going to be clear. You
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: can't just continue to keep spending money just on revenue.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: You know, these organizations, Why are you not again, why
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: are you not connecting with these grassroo organizations who are
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: literally struggling literally struggling to give them the money so
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: that they can organize year round, you know, in order
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: to keep people engaged in bottom line by votes. That's
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: what they did with the Latino community. They put in
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: the mid terms, they put thirty different community centers in Florida.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: Wasn't just about vote and they was coming in trying
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: to figure out what they could give health care, trying
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: to figure out what resources they could get, trying to
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: figure it. You literally took care of the community. That's
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: where that money is supposed to go. And it's not
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: just for advertising. Advertised is important, but it's more than that.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: You literally are supposed to buy votes, guys. That's how
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: it works by votes. That sound crazy, Yeah, well to
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: buying votes. When I say that, I mean if you
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: got a nonprofit in you in the hood, and I
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: give you three hundred thousand, and I'm telling you, use
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: that three hundred thousand throughout the year to do job training,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: use that three hundred thousand throughout the year to do
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: resume buibling, to use that three hundred thousand to put
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: people in a better position. Now people can feel it
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: and say okay, and then that organization has a responsibility
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: say this came from the Harris campaign, this came from XYZ.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: This is how we got what we got. And then
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: now people can say, okay, I feel it. Like with
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: the first step back, they feel it, they can see it,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: they can touch it. And Republicans that have just did
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: a better job with that. It's not that Democrats don't
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: have the receipts. They just don't talk about the receipts.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: Their messaging has always been poor and raggedy as hell,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: which is why I left in twenty ten. So it's
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: not that they don't have the receipts, they just don't
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: talk about. They don't feel they have to. They feel
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: they know it all, and turns out they didn't know
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: shit at all. They knew it all and knew absolutely nothing.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: They didn't listen to any advice that people gave them.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: They say they knew what was best. They said, we
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: got this, and turns it out you didn't have it.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest to us. I don't know how
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: much well I take that back.
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: I do know there was a lot of people out
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: there that was giving genuine good advice. But what I
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: realized is the people who was out there giving genuine
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: good advice was the people who were really doing it
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: out of the goodness of their heart. A lot of
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: other people I heard talking, they was really upset they
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: wasn't getting no money right, and so a lot of
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: the stuff that they were saying was literally just based
• 37:23
  Speaker 5: off when y'all gonna give me some money.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: When y'all give me some.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: Money, everybody that I heard actually giving good advice was
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: not getting paid by the campaign, right, And those are
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: the ones who aren'tetting listened to.
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: Why Why can't though, why are you not giving me
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: some money? Be a call sign to real Like if
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: you got enough people saying we need, we need, we need,
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: it's like, okay, we need to figure out why do
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: I saying we need? Like that's common sense to me
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: as a politician.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Well you should be paying for it. The goodness of
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: the hard shit is over with. I mean, like, I've
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: done get this so hard for a long time and
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: it's basically gonna make you a full time over driver
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day. People got to get paid.
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: But yes, people have their own interests on why they
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: were trying to get X, y Z, and they pissed
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: because they didn't get the money. A lot of these
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: people that you're that you're talking about, they got paid
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: last time. They wasn't saying shit about the streets. But
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: now that they got get kept, now was oh man,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: what's going on? You know, I've never had so many
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: calls and people say, oh man, we didn't get this
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: and get that I'm saying streets bending it, you know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about those grassroot organizations. They never were getting
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: the money. So yes, people have their own special interests
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: on why they're trying to get it. But it's a
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: billion dollars. Pass it out. If we're gonna run this scam,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: this time's your scam, then let them then, yeah, give
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: it out. There's nothing wrong with that as well. So
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: whether they was it was a goodness of the hard
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: or good advice because they had an interest, they weren't
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: listening to anybody. Charlotte Mane. The they really do believe
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: that they have all of the answers, like literally all
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: of the It was.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: So wrong about everything, Like when they had that whole oh,
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: black men aren't going to show up and vote for
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: the vice president, and you know President Obama was out
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: there waving his finger at us. It's like, no, y'all
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: should be focusing on these white women, right right, Like
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: those are the ones that haven't shown up the last
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: couple of elections.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: The Latino men.
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: I didn't hear them putting the real emphasis on that either,
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: but the Latino people didn't show up for them. So
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: it's just like I I just saw them make mistake
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: after mistake and another thing I would say is you had
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: a presidential campaign that had trouble connected with the working class,
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: right because they had a bunch of consultants who got
• 39:09
  Speaker 5: backgrounds with these giant companies. Do you think that they
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: should just bring people on these campaigns that are literally
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: from the.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Grassroots, And to me, those were the best ideas coming from.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's exactly what the best idea is. Coming
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: to another point. I'm glad you're about that. Uh, Charlotte Mane.
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Also a lot of friends groups, you know, people that
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: were giving them hell online that they ignore that they say, oh,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: that's just you know, Oh, that's just them talking. Oh
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: that's just them talking. That's right, again, minimizing your enemy.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: So there were groups online that are literally talking to
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: fifty thousand, one hundred thousand people every week. You don't
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: have to think that's important. But when you got groups
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: online saying reparations are not sit on the couch, don't
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: do this, don't do that, and you're ignoring that group
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: as a real constituency, and you're saying, oh, don't worry
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: about it. They just on line. Well over time, because
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: again a lot of these people and they rock with
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: me talking about this year around. See why you're just
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: talking about this last one hundred days. They're talking to
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: one hundred, one hundred and fifty thousand people every week,
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: every week, every week, every week, and nobody pick up
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: the phone to say, hey, can I have a meeting
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: with you? Can I at least see what you're talking about?
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: Can we at least have some kind of common ground?
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: When Democrats in California threw black folks under the bus,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: you know, wanted reparations, nobody thought it was worth even
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: having a conversation with the folks online that are giving
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: you hell. When you look at people, I'm just gonna say,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: the Hamy Teradona shit giving them hell online every day.
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: Nobody think you to call and say, hey, y'all did
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: a whole rally on reparations in DC. Let's have a conversation.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: What can we do to at least hear what you say?
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: So when you do that, that just continues to motivate
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: them to keep saying over and over and over they
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: ain't fucking with us. And that makes a difference. When
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: you talk about one and two percent in these mind.
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  Speaker 5: I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I think it's about
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: when you do it. To your point earlier, everybody who's
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: thinking about running in twenty twenty eight, they should start
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: campaigning now.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Don't wait until the year of the election to start
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: reaching out.
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: To these different people, cause it looks fake, It looks
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: it looks like it's not authentic, looks like you don't
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: really care.
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  Speaker 1: Start making those connections now.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: But let me ask you a question.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Do you think it should be that like Charloamage said,
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: or do you think we should take a page out
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: of Canada's book and out of Francis book where it's
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: like there's a cap, there's a specific time limit, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean, because people get fatigued and after
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: a while people like f all this issue. I mean,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: do you feel like we should go warranto that because
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: now it's almost like big bak take a little.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Bait, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean as far as campaign campaign concerned, oh should
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: be shorter campaign.
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  Speaker 3: Short campaign Canada to have a specific time limit, whether
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: it's three months or a certain amount of money that has.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: To Yeah, it has changed. It used to be six months,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: one year, two years. Congress has to run every two years.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: The minute they're getting off is their campaign and then
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: trying to raise money. So no, we are in a
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  Speaker 4: year around. Donald Trump has changed this and will forever
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: be changed. This is a year around effort, year around resources,
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: year around. That's why I do my training, push the line,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: nonpartisan training, year around. Getting people in position. That's a project.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five is all about. People can think it's
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: fake or not fake, but that's all about putting people
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: in position. Putting people at the commissioner left and putting
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: people at the state level, putting people at the state
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: if they're not investing year around. If you're if you're
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: gonna bring plies into the game, then plies partner with
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: somebody like myself or somebody like unt Free, somebody else
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: to help bring this noise you're around. Because what happens
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: is the day after the election you go, you go
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: back to talking about what you're talking about before, and
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: now you got to start the machine all over again.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I've ain't said nothing from the car since the election
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: about stuff.
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: Well, he did say he had woke up. Remember he
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: said he missed the election night, but he woke up,
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: and so he did say that.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: I ain't seen him talking about Starbucks and women feet.
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: I ain't seen them talking about.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: It, right, and that's the man I love. I ran
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: for office in twenty eleven in Orlando. First person I
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: reached out to was Plies. I talked to his manager.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: He said, you know, applies don't due politics. He not
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: in politics. So to see him doing this now, and
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: reached out to him again. Since then, by the way,
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: reached out to his manager to say, why don't you
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: help me get these people trained. You have a voice,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: get these people train. In two thousand even and said, many,
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: come on, let's do something with thee hundred years, the
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: one hundred years record that he got. Let's do something bad.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Massivecarceration in Florida. So when I watch him doing that
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: every day non stop, his heartbreaking to me. Because we
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: do need our entertainers, but we need them to I
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: don't expect them to do the work year around. Entertainers
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: like getting applauses. And see this work is about getting bulls.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: This work is not about applausing. They only want to
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: be no disrespect. But entertainers like responding to the applause.
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: So the minute you start booing them, the minute you
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: start saying I don't like you. What we saw with
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: ice Que when he took a chance and went out
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: there and talked about, you know the state of Black America,
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: and people started booing him and out Wing's seeing Ice
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: Ques since ethon, so you know that, and people they
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: can't take it. And then they say, oh, I don't
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: blame you for leaving, but I do, though I love
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: it left. I blame you though, because homie, you donet
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: set up here and got it. I done reached out
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: to Q two, you got everybody excited. I don't expect
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: you to do the work year around, but partner with
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: people that can because we need we need people like
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: that Gloyala. Come talk to your home girl like glorially
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: need people in her ear too to know she got
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: a he I love a story. Why why are we
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: not connecting her with people that actually know her story?
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Sexy red or we don't need sexy Red, Yes we do.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: She'll hold di moved. Maybe y'all don't know how to
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: talk to it, but she can go partner with some
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: of the homies that not even on the list at all,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: not even on a voter list. When you bring ten
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: thousand people into the fold, fifteen thousand people on the
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: fold is not even on anybody's list that nobody's real.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: That's how you win these elections. That's why Trump was
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: able to make that difference on people who were not
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: engaged at all. But in order to do that, you
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: have to do it year round. You cannot do it
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: no ninety days before the campaign. It's never gonna work.
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: Because I agree with you, I think I think what
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: we're saying is because I think that's what people think.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: People think that entertainers are the leaders that are generals.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: They're not.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: They're the soldiers, right, and you want them to be
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: the soldiers right to go organize the people, to bring
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: them back to the actual general the people to actually
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: do them.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, absolutely, And y'all can have the mic. We
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: ain't trying to take the mic from like we get
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: it to get the mic, but pass it on to
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: people that are really, really really trying to do it.
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: I will do the heavy lifting, the organizer will do
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: the heavy lifting. Our platforms are never going to be
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: as big, you know, as a cube or a glow
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: reala or a sexy grade. And I don't want to
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: encourage discourage them to get out because that's also what's
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: happening because now they even't put their cloud on the line,
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: and then now you got in a table like I'm
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: not getting that shit again.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Fucked, especially when.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Exactly because you don't put them in position to make
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: it seem like, oh, all we got to do is
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: have Beyonce get up and talk and it's all that
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: and now you got her look like you said of
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: the candid's on people calling her out people and that's
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: not on her. It's not on Beyonce. It's not on
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: these But you do need people to get people to
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: the stands, but it's on it's the year around organizers
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: that they just refuse to do. So I want eye
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: entertainers to stay in the game. I just want you
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: to partner with organizers that really actually give a damn
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: about this work because we really do, you know, year
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: around and we don't have enough killer Mike's in my opinion.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Tell them how to connect with you, and you'll push
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the line.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Movement, yes, push the line politics until something happens. And
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: thank you guys for supporting that. When we did, I
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: guess was two years ago when I came to the
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: Breakfast Club, we had over three hundred people. You know,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: they came to Atlanta on their own dime, to learn
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: how to be candidates, to learn how to be operatives,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: to learn how to be organized. It's a non partisan
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: training that I created. These people flew from all over LA, Dallas, Houston,
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: New York. In the room, you know, three hundred people.
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: That's why when people tell me, don't nobody want to
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: do this, they're not interested. That's not true. Jay was
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: there in the fact that she came to the training,
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: came all the way from DC. These people were outside
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: at six am in the morning in the rain to
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: learn how to do this. They want the training. They
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: want to know how can I change on the local level.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: But we just don't have enough support to get around.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: So I'm asking people to text. Push the line all caps,
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: push the line to sixty six, eight sixty six, And
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to get partners, guys. I'm trying to people
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: over fifty cities have said can you bring the training here?
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: But I'm teaching people in the training how to organize,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: how to organize if you want to be a candidate,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: if you want to be an operative, if you want
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: to be an organizer, whatever it is you want to do.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: I believe my training is one of the best. And
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: the reason why is because it truly is a military mindset.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: It truly is cutting through all the bullshit. I've been
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: to all the trainings. I've been in Congressional Black Caucus training,
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: a White House training, Yelle Women's school, law school, I've
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: been to them all, and all of them sell a
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: bunch of bullshit, respectfully. You know, they come in and
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: tell you, you know, you're gonna have a stab, You're
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: gonna have this and that. My train is really designed
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: to tell you know, Lauren, it's really just gonna be
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: you with twenty dollars. How can we you know, move
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: from that? So people are hungry, they want information. I'm
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: trying to get people to partner to help me do
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: more of it because I can't just do it, you know, myself,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: out my own pocket. I can't. I don't want to
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: charge people. People don't have the money to pay for it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: So we're just trying to, you know, keep building up
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: that momentum and hopefully be able to do any people
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: that to join. And you also looking for ye I
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: may write me a check out.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: You mean, I make a donation right now? What you need?
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Charle let's give one hundred and fifty thousand.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: We can go.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: That's a lot. We can help get you that now.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Dollars holiday, And I do want to say that. Also, Wisconsin,
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know if y'all notice, largest black mail incarceration
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: in the country, the highest black femicide rate. Yes, more
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: black women are murdered in Wisconsin then anywhere. They didn't
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: give any money to Milwaukee at all, So now you're
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: expecting that's what you were expecting. And also Wisconsin is
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: one of the most the least diverse state in the country.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: So now you're gonna run a former state attorney in
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Wisconsin where black men are locked up more than you know.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: This is true. Whether you like it, we got to
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: deal with what it really is. They weren't trying to
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: hear any any of that. They shit it on Wisconsin.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: They shited it on Milwaukee. They used to do hip
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Hop Week there every year. They don't have the budget
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: to do that anymore. They were trying to bring sake,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: how tess and how can we come down get out
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: the vote. They couldn't get twenty five hundred dollars together
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: to say, let's get the vote out. They went to
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: the white voters in Wisconsin. So these are the kind
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: of things, guys, that we just have to put on
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: the table. I know people saying teds, move on, just
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: deal with it. No, we have to call this shit out, guys,
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: because if we continue to mismanage this money, then we're
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: not you know, actually getting the help you know that
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: we need. And it's critically important.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: If I text pushed the line to this number, that's
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: still work, all right. Text pushed the line to six
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: six six, No, six six eight sixty six. Text push
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: the line to six six eight sixty six to join
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: the Texas email list for push the line right.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Thank you, We appreciate you for joining us. Thank you.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: Let me go through my list.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: It's all goodness. Tsant figure out. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Good morning.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club