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- 0:00Officials are warning the public to beware as scammers are impersonating the Canadian Anti Fraud
- 0:07Center. The Canadian Anti Fraud Center itself, the opp and the RCMP have
- 0:12put out a statement saying fraudsters are claiming to help the Canadian Anti Fraud Center
- 0:17with an ongoing investigation. They're using their letterhead, they're using their logo,
- 0:22they're spoofing police phone numbers. In some cases. This is just egregious the
- 0:28lengths that people go to both commit fraud and to scam people out of their
- 0:34hard earned money. Joining me to discuss right now is our Member of Parliament
- 0:38for Windsor West, Brian Massey, who has been working on this file for
- 0:43quite some time. Brian, how you doing good? Thanks thanks for having
- 0:46me. I appreciate this because it's another attempt that goes really far in terms
- 0:51of its diabolical approach and it just confuses people. And I think people know
- 0:56all fraud was up lately as well. Yeah, it's you know, this
- 0:59is it. It's really cheeky of them to go out of their way to
- 1:02impersonate the Canadian Anti Fraud Center, really really escalating things. It is,
- 1:07but you know, I've been trying to work on this for a long time
- 1:10to get it taken more seriously. In Ottawa, I was able to get
- 1:12the first report ever and study at industry committee. Kevin Cosgrow came up.
- 1:17He's a local guy. Our Windsor police are excellent on this file, by
- 1:19the way, compared to other police departments. It's a matter of resources really,
- 1:25but I'm really trying to get across to people, including government people and
- 1:30others, this is organized crime. And we did get a victory about seven
- 1:34or eight seven or eight years ago when we actually had the RCMP work internationally
- 1:42with some fraud centers going on in India. It was the first time that
- 1:46we were able to get outside of their country and investigation. With the results,
- 1:49and we still need to do more. It should be part of even
- 1:53what I've argued our international treaties of trade and so forth. This is very
- 1:57sophisticated organized crime and people, just so you know, they unders understand if
- 2:02you're a victim of this, don't feel bad. These people are very sophisticated.
- 2:07They use behavior techniques and they have a lot of resources, and you
- 2:12shouldn't feel bad. If you're a victim of fraud, you should report it
- 2:15to the Windsor Police and also the Anti Fraud Center. But at the same
- 2:19time, you should not feel bad about yourself and shame about this because it
- 2:23can cause mental health problems on top of the financial loss. And it's important
- 2:27for people to know these predators are very serious, sophisticated, and they get
- 2:31the best of the best. Well. People are victims here that needs to
- 2:36be remembered if you do fall prey to this. But is that something that
- 2:38you hear often in your office when people call in talking about this? Do
- 2:42people feel embarrassed about it in our own community? They do, and it
- 2:46stops the prevention of reporting this. And again that's important because we need to
- 2:52build the case for this. All the people that have been working on this.
- 2:55It does matter when people call in, and I know you just feel
- 2:58like a statistic and things may not get better right away, but we need
- 3:01to build the case that this is certainly something that needs to be dealt with
- 3:06more seriously than ever before. And this latest barrage has been really bad and
- 3:12I'm still working to try to get even the telcoast to have to be responsible
- 3:15for some of the telephone numbers and access to service that they're getting from fraud.
- 3:21We actually have had some movement from the CRTC to actually put some responsibility.
- 3:27It's called the Shaken program where you know, you get identified if a
- 3:32call coming and you may it SA as likely spam or likely fraud. And
- 3:37still it's not as sophistic as it should be, and it's been more voluntary
- 3:40from the telcoast. I think they need to be responsible for some of the
- 3:45economic consequences of this, are funding some of the processes to fight this,
- 3:50because you know, it's sad because people are paying for your phone, you're
- 3:53paying for your number, you're paying for the data and everything else, and
- 3:55what are you done. You've been attacked by basically organized crime and that's just
- 4:00not right. It's interesting that you talk about, you know, what the
- 4:02responsibility maybe should be for the telcos that we have. It seems like it
- 4:06would be a pretty easy thing to do to just take the suspected numbers.
- 4:11You're probably easy enough to analyze the data that they have and go, oh,
- 4:15look, this one phone just sent out ten thousand text messages or whatever
- 4:18it might be across the country, all within the same time. That looks
- 4:21like fraud. It seems like it would be well within you know, it
- 4:27would be great for all of us to have something like that implemented for sure,
- 4:30And it's just not taken seriously enough right now, and it's just seen
- 4:32as a responsibility for law enforcement and for people to protect themselves. And we
- 4:38need to go to the frontline on this. We can't be responding all the
- 4:42time to fraud because this is what you know they predicate on is a model
- 4:46where still shift. I mean, before this situation, there was a lot
- 4:50of fraud going on with COVID, and the access to people's data and privacy
- 4:56is very important. So I just encourage people, you know, if it
- 4:58sounds too good, it's probably too good. Never just react to something that
- 5:01somebody calls in on you or texts in you, and that you can always
- 5:06ask for number to call back and double check that number with your financial institution
- 5:10or anything else. Don't give out your credit card to anybody that contacts you
- 5:14right away, you know, make sure you don't give out any private information.
- 5:17All those things you can first of all, first line of defense is
- 5:19ask for a number to call back, and then before you call that number
- 5:23back, check to make sure it's the viable number from that institution, and
- 5:27if not, then your agency or whatever you're going to do is going to
- 5:30mail you. And you can ask for stuff to be mailed to you as
- 5:32well too instead, and that's where most communications should be taking place for sensitive
- 5:38information. So those are first lines of defense. And again, don't feel
- 5:42ashamed and bad about if you've been a victim of crime. I know people
- 5:45in our own community that I've lost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and it's
- 5:48sad because it's affected their family and their lives for years to come, and
- 5:54getting that money back is almost next to impossible. That's awful stuff. I
- 5:58hate that people would be predators and on some of our most vulnerable people who
- 6:01can be susceptible to this. It's really gross, and I really appreciate that
- 6:05it's something that you keep your eye on and you keep talking about that committee,
- 6:09Thank you for having me on. I'm breaking this away to the public
- 6:11because it's something that we've got to continue to push and hopefully this latest round
- 6:15will give more impetus for my committee to actually return to this issue, which
- 6:19I'm trying to do in the fall. So we just keep pushing this forward
- 6:23and making sure and if you want to go on for Fraud League Prevention techniques
- 6:27ww dot Brianmassey dot CA actually has a whole thing on fraud prevention right there
- 6:31on the front. We have a special link just for fraud prevention there and
- 6:34there's also the Competition Bureau and into our Fraud Center where you can just check
- 6:39out that stuff to help protect you and your family. Important information for people
- 6:43to know. Thank you for your time, Brian, really appreciate it.
- 6:45Thank you for having me. Thank you. Brian Massey is our Member of
- 6:47Parliament for Windsor West. Police are warning of scammers impersonating the Canadian Anti Fraud Center