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Michael Irvin on Cowboys, Jerry Jones, winning Super Bowls, Miami hype | Richard Sherman x Radio Row · The Richard Sherman Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. We have the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We're one of the greatest wide receivers to
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  Speaker 1: ever grace the National Football League. The playmaker Michael Irvin,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Come on, man, stop playing show me you look good.
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  Speaker 2: I see you look you know your shoe jacket combo
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  Speaker 2: right there, you're throwing down.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to get it together and you.
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  Speaker 2: Get it together, Shermy, is so great to be here
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  Speaker 2: with you man at another Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 3: Sir? How do I how do I get to look
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  Speaker 3: like this when i'm your wage? Man?
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  Speaker 2: Come on, man, you know hey, First of all, y'all
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  Speaker 2: know black don't crack, so you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Let me just drop that out for real like that. Man.
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  Speaker 2: But sir, if you look good man, and you know
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  Speaker 2: what you're doing is how we all need to try
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  Speaker 2: to stay in the game and stay healthy. You know,
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  Speaker 2: stay around these young dudes, stay around the game. That's
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  Speaker 2: what you do, man, Just what you're doing because it
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  Speaker 2: keeps you active, It gives you a purpose.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: You guys like me and you you know, and and
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  Speaker 2: and that that's one of the reasons I even start
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  Speaker 2: that podcast and called it the White House, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because guys that have it. I like people to come
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  Speaker 2: in and say, hey, we only like talking to guys
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  Speaker 2: that are situations. Come in our situation room, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and and talk and share. And that's what I love
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  Speaker 2: about podcasts because we get to do the long term,
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  Speaker 2: long form. You and I never worked together on TV.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they got this more time. You're not rap.
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  Speaker 2: They're telling you the rap right now. We are, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But this way we can talk with people and not
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  Speaker 2: just talk to people. And I think that's the greatest
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  Speaker 2: form of education.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, speaking of you talking about being around the young
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  Speaker 1: guys and influencing young men, and you've been around Miami
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  Speaker 1: a lot this season and it's been a you know, televised,
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  Speaker 1: but just talk about that because it just looks like
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  Speaker 1: you having such a positive impact on those young men
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  Speaker 1: in that program, and you look so happy and so
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  Speaker 1: passionate about the success that ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there is nothing right that last few years
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  Speaker 2: that has been bringing up more joy to me.
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  Speaker 3: You know, man, we talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, man, we would never be able to do
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  Speaker 2: that again, to play again, and we won't. I won't
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  Speaker 2: ever be able to run a route, score a touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: But that's as close as you could get to be
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  Speaker 2: right there. And the great part about it that most
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  Speaker 2: people don't know, you know, since we go back every
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  Speaker 2: year to Legend Camps and Fantasy Camp.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of those kids.
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  Speaker 2: You've seen those kids when they were six seven, eighth
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  Speaker 2: grade because we've coached them at Miami, and now they're
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  Speaker 2: growing up and going to Miami and it's just so
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  Speaker 2: incredible to be out there.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: I get guys coming up to me and saying, unc
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  Speaker 2: man little when the come out of the tunnel, will
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  Speaker 2: shoe you.
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  Speaker 3: I get hype, I'm ready, you know. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That means the world to me. It means the word.
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  Speaker 2: And people out here they go crazy after the game. Dude,
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  Speaker 2: I do the belt to add every Look at Michael.
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  Speaker 2: He's on cocaine right now, he's hard.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, stop stop sucking around, y'all. Stop it. Y'all
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  Speaker 3: know that. Listen, listen. That's why y'all that.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all know cocaine. Come on, man, that they ain't gonna
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  Speaker 2: lad no five hours. That's why they breaking so much
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  Speaker 2: over here in three ten minutes. And then you gotta
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  Speaker 2: go back ten minutes that's why you got That's why
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  Speaker 2: you get out of the game, right you You you
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  Speaker 2: chasing something you ain't so so so right, and I
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  Speaker 2: understand they're just trying to steal my glory.
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  Speaker 3: With that story.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to steal that sh They trying to dilute it.
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  Speaker 1: I ain't trying. I ain't trying to hear. I'll be
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  Speaker 1: out there wild it out. I'll be raising up and
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  Speaker 1: ya and anyway, y'all see my ass?
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  Speaker 3: Do they look like ass?
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  Speaker 1: Some dude sitting around doing nothing or you know you
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  Speaker 1: ain't got the apps, Y'll just stop playing.
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  Speaker 3: Around, y'all see it. This is gatimate. You can't make this.
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  Speaker 3: You can't that you can do it right here. I
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  Speaker 3: ain't going nowhere now when you know, we're.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna have to talk about Jerry and your and your
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  Speaker 1: cowboys at some point or another, because it's been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of change over there. And you know, is it
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  Speaker 1: a good movie? Is it a bad move? We gonna
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  Speaker 1: see because there's a lot of draft picks. He found
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  Speaker 1: a way to get a lot of draft capital out
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  Speaker 1: of those deals. But obviously, when when the Micah Parsons
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  Speaker 1: trade happened early I questioned it right off the bat,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, now, not many times you trade
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  Speaker 1: all pros for draft picks that could potentially be all pros.
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  Speaker 1: And when he made that trade, he got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of draft capital. You know, they had to they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have to pay him the forty five million that he
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  Speaker 1: was getting from Green Bay. All those things matter, But
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  Speaker 1: it just seemed like that domino kind of dropped like
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  Speaker 1: a rock in the pond of the Dallas Cowboys and
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  Speaker 1: created ripples about how Jerry Jones conducts business and how
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  Speaker 1: he has handled some of these contracts.
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  Speaker 3: You saw Danz Bryant talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what they experienced that that you might
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  Speaker 1: have had when you were doing your deal, but it
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  Speaker 1: just seems like this Dallas Cowboys team is further away
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  Speaker 1: from a Super Bowl than they were when he was there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I had I was at dinner with coach
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  Speaker 2: Shattenheimer two days ago, and you know, beautiful wife, beautiful kids,
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  Speaker 2: and we all sat over and catch my boys spot
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  Speaker 2: in Dallas, and we talked about a lot of things.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I love the direction Dallas is headed.
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  Speaker 2: I mean last year what we found out is you
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  Speaker 2: got the makings of a great offense. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: got some players in the makings of a great offense.
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  Speaker 2: When you remember that game that they decided to bench
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  Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens for the first series, everybody
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  Speaker 2: was saying, what did he do?
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  Speaker 3: What did they do? They were trying to scramble to
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  Speaker 3: find out what they did. I wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I didn't know. But what they did didn't
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  Speaker 2: matter to me. All that mattered to me is they
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  Speaker 2: did that shit together. Now one of them longer they
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  Speaker 2: kept both to us, said, Oh, were good. That mean
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  Speaker 2: whatever they were doing, they were doing together.
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  Speaker 3: This is good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they boys, we ain't gonna have no right,
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  Speaker 2: no right, we ain't gonna have no If they are
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  Speaker 2: that getting in trouble together, they if you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying, that.
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  Speaker 3: Mean they gonna ball together. You know.
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  Speaker 2: But see the rest of the world don't see it
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  Speaker 2: that way. Oh what are they doing? Those guys are
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  Speaker 2: folks y'all missing the damn point. They're missing the points.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Long was all I cared
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  Speaker 2: about was they were doing it together. That means they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna ball together. So you know what I mean? Receiver
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  Speaker 2: room right, weird? If you ain't got that kind of
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  Speaker 2: you got it. And if y'all that getting in trouble together,
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  Speaker 2: you look at these all, right, dall, we shouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: got in trouble. Let's go ball out and make them
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  Speaker 2: forget this today. And that's what they do together. So
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  Speaker 2: I loved that relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: When I was with CD and we went to a
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  Speaker 2: New York Knicks game, a New York Game game in
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  Speaker 2: New York Knicks, that's what we were talking about, because
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  Speaker 2: it reminds me a lot of me and Alvin he
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  Speaker 2: Enjoorge Pickings and they do different things. Pickings going up
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  Speaker 2: there to get the ball. He's going up the field
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  Speaker 2: like Heart did. But everything twenting in heart can do.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm going to take care of baby. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: carve it right.
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  Speaker 1: And when y'all start edging on up here, Heart gonna
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  Speaker 1: go by y'all. Our pickings gona go by y'all. So
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  Speaker 1: it works perfectly, man. We just gotta be more consistent
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  Speaker 1: with that offense. And like you say, with all that capital,
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  Speaker 1: build a defense, and Quentin Williams was to get Now
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  Speaker 1: that's what it ain't nobody talking about, dude.
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  Speaker 2: Pressure Listen, let me take some I'll give it. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, Jerry was hurt the relationship that Jerry and
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  Speaker 2: Michael had, And I heard Michael talk about it for
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  Speaker 2: the first time yesterday at the Pro Bowl. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Jerry was hurt, and and and and I had him
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  Speaker 2: on and I had him on the locker room with
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  Speaker 2: me on my YouTube channel, and and and I was
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  Speaker 2: talking to talking to him about it, and he said
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  Speaker 2: to me, Michael, why don't you go get Michael and
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  Speaker 2: bring him in here. And I should have picked up
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  Speaker 2: the hurt on him, because if he's saying that, I
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  Speaker 2: should have took that for real, I believe Michael lost. Also, see,
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  Speaker 2: the only person I believe one and that deal was
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  Speaker 2: the agent, right because the agent sent Michael to Dallas
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  Speaker 2: Green Bay and said, you got forty seven, Oh you
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  Speaker 2: really got forty two over five, not forty seven over four.
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  Speaker 2: That's all that new money that starts this year next year.
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  Speaker 2: All of that that's agent talk. Dog, you still gotta
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  Speaker 2: play this year. So when you average all that money,
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  Speaker 2: it's five years over forty two million. They had forty
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  Speaker 2: and forty one on the table in Dallas. You gotta
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  Speaker 2: pay state tax over there. And now you already. You
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  Speaker 2: see what I'm saying. You're not gonna live in Green Bay,
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna live in Dallas. Why do that? But you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean, why And That's what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: But that what Dallas slipped on is understanding to tie
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  Speaker 2: together Michael Parson and Trayvon Diggs. Once you get rid
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  Speaker 2: of one of them. If you get rid of Michael
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  Speaker 2: parsoner Trayvon Diggs, youre hurting them right because Michael has
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  Speaker 2: to be back there right now so Trayvon can jump
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  Speaker 2: that first route. If that dude got a second and
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  Speaker 2: third round, treybon get dead because you jump the wrong thing.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where he got caught up this year. And
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  Speaker 2: I tried to tell Jary, if you're gonna get if
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna do that with Michael, then maybe you should
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  Speaker 2: have held out for doing what you did with Trayvon.
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  Speaker 3: That that's where they went wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll say this because I think Quinn Williams is
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  Speaker 1: one of the best defenders in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: I think Kenny Clark is underrated. I think they did
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  Speaker 1: a great job.
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  Speaker 2: And you saw you saw you saw them two coming
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  Speaker 2: together like like I was talking about, like like like
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  Speaker 2: George and CD. So you saw them, you saw them
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  Speaker 2: big boy competing to get back there. You think I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna beat you back.
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  Speaker 1: Then once you get that dog you got if you
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  Speaker 1: get them two big dudes in the middle saying.
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  Speaker 2: What let's go, let's go. We're gonna meet you at
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback and they could pete be. You know you
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  Speaker 2: all had to leave you the boom.
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  Speaker 1: It's start with them big mother with ben in and
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  Speaker 1: all go put that pressure back. We caught him, the
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  Speaker 1: big three. We ain't nobody. You go get them boys, man.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I like it to.
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  Speaker 3: I love I love the staff.
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  Speaker 1: I like Shoddy, my guy, Junior Adams is the receivers
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  Speaker 1: coach there.
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  Speaker 3: The thing that I do.
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  Speaker 1: Too, I didn't like with with what they did is
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  Speaker 1: what they did with our like you let out here.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, man, come on, dog, come on now, dog,
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  Speaker 3: come on? What are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Dude, I've been talking about this too, and and honestly
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  Speaker 2: and even this right here, this last cycle with somebody
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  Speaker 2: got to start. When you're the best at something, you're
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  Speaker 2: the best at something. This dude, when it was the
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  Speaker 2: Dallas they best in taking the ball away in Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: Now they were the best at taking the ball away.
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  Speaker 2: That's his specialty, and nobody wants to point out and
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  Speaker 2: talk and give him the credit for holding on and
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  Speaker 2: his specialty. He deserves an opportunity to be a coordinator
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  Speaker 2: and get them and move up for what he has done.
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  Speaker 2: Al Harris, that's the biggest thing to hurt me, more
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  Speaker 2: than anything.
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  Speaker 1: More than anything, More than anything, Al Harrison deserves to
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  Speaker 1: be a DC.
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  Speaker 3: He deserves to know.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a gimmick, it's not anything tricky. It's easy
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  Speaker 1: to see. Wherever he goes, they take the football win
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  Speaker 1: the most important do I tell people? Defense don't win championship.
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  Speaker 1: Turnover defense win championship. Coach points you need and the
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  Speaker 1: turnover defense gives you the ball back to get those points.
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  Speaker 2: That's the kicker and he's a master at it. Whiteker,
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  Speaker 2: You're right on, man. I appreciate you bringing up a too, man,
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  Speaker 2: because we gotta keep talking about that and bring that
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  Speaker 2: to the forefront. Like these quarters these coaches get are
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  Speaker 2: their quarterback whispers. This is a takeaway whisper.
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  Speaker 3: To take away whisper.
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  Speaker 1: May give him his credit for being the takeaway whisper
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  Speaker 1: and give him a cornerback whisper right, right, whatever you
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  Speaker 1: want to call it, what you're.
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  Speaker 3: Doing with hard Rock Bet. They got this game at
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  Speaker 3: four and a half. You see it four and a
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  Speaker 3: half for hard Rock Bets, man.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what, what I love about this so
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  Speaker 2: much to the partnership that I have with hard Rock Bets.
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  Speaker 2: You know, they're the best. They're the best in the business.
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  Speaker 2: And it's home for me. You know, I had my
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  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame party at hard Rock. You know it's
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  Speaker 2: in Florida. Well, I've always did business with them. I
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  Speaker 2: never been able to partnership with them here in this
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  Speaker 2: fashion because I've always worked for the NFL. This is
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  Speaker 2: the first time I've ever had a chance to partner
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  Speaker 2: with with with with with with a company like this.
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  Speaker 2: So so I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: There's no better place than hard Rock hard Rock Stadium,
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  Speaker 2: stay at the hard Rocket for a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Of the So it's just it's official sportsbook in Florida.
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  Speaker 1: So you can't go wrong with some hard rock only Florida.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best. It is the meadow, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: love it. I love it, bro.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate having your own playmaker and I love you,
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  Speaker 1: you know you my brother.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate it. You know, we work together over at Fox.
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  Speaker 2: It's my dude man right here.