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Ohio State Men's Basketball: Buckeyes Going Big Up Front In 2026-27 · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, June twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 1: the menu and make a reservation. Today I'm here inside
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  Speaker 1: the Jerome Shottenstein Center. We just got a chance to
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  Speaker 1: watch a little bit of Ohio State basketball practice, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm joined by Marcus Hartman. You may remember Marcus Hartman
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  Speaker 1: from such publications as the Dayton Daily News, but now
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  Speaker 1: you may know that Marcus Hartman is now a part
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  Speaker 1: of the team at Buckeyeinsiders dot com. Marcus, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: it's about time we've been friends. You and Tony and
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  Speaker 1: I have been friends for a million years and we
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  Speaker 1: keep thinking I'd be really fun to work together. And
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  Speaker 1: now huzzah we get to work together.
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  Speaker 2: No crazy, huh. It's weird how how everything comes full circle.
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  Speaker 1: So one of the things that Marcus is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: doing for us is he's going to be focusing a
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  Speaker 1: lot on Ohios State men's and women's basketball and some
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  Speaker 1: other sports as well.
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  Speaker 3: We don't worry, we'll talk football with them as well.
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  Speaker 1: But we've had a lot of folks every time we
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  Speaker 1: posted basketball video, there's lots of comments for Wow, thanks
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  Speaker 1: for the basketball coverage. You want to see more basketball coverage.
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  Speaker 1: And this is really an intriguing Ohio State basketball team
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  Speaker 1: this year. They've got some really interesting new additions and
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  Speaker 1: so we thought, okay, we can do that. If people
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  Speaker 1: are interested in high stept basketball, we can talk a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of Ohio State basketball. We just got a chance
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  Speaker 1: to watch practice. And this is a week when Ohios
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  Speaker 1: State has a bunch of former players in there. You
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  Speaker 1: know Thad Model was in there as well, but you
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  Speaker 1: know Greg Oden and Scooney Penn and David Leidy and
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  Speaker 1: all these guys in addition to like Will Newford and
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  Speaker 1: Terren Styles were on staff. But a ton of familiar
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  Speaker 1: faces in there. This is kind of an interesting way
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  Speaker 1: for Jake Deebler to sort of connect the present Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State team, which there's a lot of roster to shrown
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  Speaker 1: over every year, and sort of almost speed run getting
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  Speaker 1: guys up to speed with what an Ohio State basketball
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  Speaker 1: tradition is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ohio State basketball is such a an odd situation,
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  Speaker 2: I think, because you know, there's the idea that it's
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  Speaker 2: a sleeping giant, but it's been gone back to sleep
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  Speaker 2: for a while, and then you want to play up
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  Speaker 2: the tradition, but what is the tradition? And so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I like that as a branding thing to kind of
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  Speaker 2: to bring in these guys from different eras that can
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  Speaker 2: can kind of give you some more bona fides and
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  Speaker 2: things like that, or remember remind people of better days ahead,
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  Speaker 2: but hopefully in the better days from the past. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, at the end of the day, it's a
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  Speaker 2: matter of how many games they win this year. So
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  Speaker 2: that's what we're trying to kind of you know that
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  Speaker 2: we're sort of trying to define what the.
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  Speaker 3: Ceiling might be.
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  Speaker 2: And here the last these viewing windows that we've had,
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  Speaker 2: you know, have kind of I mean, there's been a lot.
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  Speaker 1: To like and one of the things I think that
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  Speaker 1: they like a lot about this year's team is they've
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  Speaker 1: got some size that they have not had in recent years.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know that they have one guy who's
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  Speaker 1: that's a thirty five a minute night, thirty five minutes
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  Speaker 1: a night sort of center. But they just have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of size, a lot of different guys, four different
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  Speaker 1: guys I want to talk about on this show. One
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  Speaker 1: let's start with Evonna Govin. And I think they're O
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  Speaker 1: high state basketball fans in the hole sort of have
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  Speaker 1: a sense for Okay, Vonna Govin really didn't play two
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  Speaker 1: years ago, played a little bit of a role last year.
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  Speaker 1: He looks noticeably bigger this year. And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: this is a thirty five minutes a game guy, but
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  Speaker 1: it feels like he could be at least part of
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  Speaker 1: the basis of a pretty good frontcourt for them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see how they piece that together.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said when we were in there, you
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  Speaker 2: know part of it. There's a bigger discussion about what
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  Speaker 2: is Jake Diebler's basketball philosophy.
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  Speaker 3: Is it correct?
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  Speaker 2: Is it in line with today's philosophy which may be changing,
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  Speaker 2: maybe right or wrong in terms of how many big
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  Speaker 2: guys you want to play what you want to get
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  Speaker 2: out of them. But yes, so if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: play one big guy, that four men rotation would be
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  Speaker 2: pretty good. And maybe if a couple of these guys
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  Speaker 2: can make an outside shot, that would help it all.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a certain extent you know sometimes, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: do they just need the five to be an enforcer?
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  Speaker 2: Do they need him to be anything able to do
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  Speaker 2: anything except for block shots and dunk and get rebounds.
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  Speaker 2: I think he can do that again for how many minutes,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, we'll see, but if they can, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if the other guys are four bona fide scores, you know,
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  Speaker 2: then that really it's there's a lot of different ways
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  Speaker 2: you can see this lineup coming together, which is good
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  Speaker 2: except for sometimes it never comes together. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: you can you know, we can't look at anything Ohio
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  Speaker 2: State basketball related and consider it all the way positive
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  Speaker 2: these days, just because you know, things have tended to
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  Speaker 2: not break the right way in the last few years.
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  Speaker 2: But it's very intriguing from that standpoint.
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  Speaker 3: It would be nice.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like when you're looking at the portal,
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  Speaker 2: you know they were in on several of these like dynamic,
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  Speaker 2: you know, top twenty type prospects, and they didn't, you know,
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  Speaker 2: get all those guys. But they end which would have
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  Speaker 2: been you know, a real reset, shock to the system
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  Speaker 2: type of thing, but they ended up you know, it
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  Speaker 2: looks like they're you know, they already had a couple
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  Speaker 2: of potential all big ten guys on the roster and
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  Speaker 2: then you know, I think this what they ended up doing,
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  Speaker 2: bringing in depth kind of at ever position, guys who
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  Speaker 2: have played you kind of have an idea what you're getting.
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  Speaker 3: I think that could work out for the best.
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  Speaker 1: One of those all big ten guys is a Maury Baynham,
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  Speaker 1: and I think one of the goals for this year
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  Speaker 1: is you never have to have a Mari Bynam be
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  Speaker 1: the biggest guy on the court. You'd like to have
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  Speaker 1: him play the four. He was a little bit miscast
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  Speaker 1: at times, I think purely out of necessity last year.
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  Speaker 1: If you can keep him at that four spot and
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  Speaker 1: have someone else who's bigger, who can play close to
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  Speaker 1: the rim be your main rebounder, that frees him up
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  Speaker 1: to do a lot of the stuff he can do.
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  Speaker 1: One of the guys they brought in in the transfer
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  Speaker 1: portal who I think you know, you talked about some
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  Speaker 1: of the different things you can do in the different roles.
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  Speaker 1: Two guys that we need to talk about. The other
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  Speaker 1: two guys I want to talk about here Josh Agenua,
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  Speaker 1: who they brought in in the portal last year and
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  Speaker 1: who didn't play at all, and then Andrea Yolovich and
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  Speaker 1: they brought him in this year from Kentucky. He to
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  Speaker 1: me is kind of intriguing because he's someone who I
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  Speaker 1: think he can go out and I think he's comfortable
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  Speaker 1: going out and shooting the three. But also he's every
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  Speaker 1: bit of seven feet tall and feels like he's athletic
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  Speaker 1: enough that he might be able to present some mismatches
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  Speaker 1: for opposing teams.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, looking at his some of the highlights that we
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  Speaker 2: saw from last year, he does seem to be like
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  Speaker 2: more of a perimeter player who's tall, and sometimes that
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  Speaker 2: is a good thing and sometimes it's a bad thing,
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  Speaker 2: and again sometimes it's about fit. But I think he's
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  Speaker 2: got he's got a good athleticism. You know, he's got
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  Speaker 2: a higher ceiling. You know, we haven't really seen what
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  Speaker 2: he could get to yet, So how he fits in there,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. And he's another guy who could blossom.
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  Speaker 2: You never know, you put on some more weight another
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  Speaker 2: year in the weight room and things like that. He
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  Speaker 2: could be someone who is really hard for opposing teams
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  Speaker 2: to deal with. And you saw last year again you
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  Speaker 2: kind of talk about like what is the counter what
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  Speaker 2: is the prevailing philosophy of college basketball?
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  Speaker 3: Now? What is Jake Deebler's philosophy? How do those go? Well?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty much every time they played a good team in
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  Speaker 2: the Big Ten last year, you were like, Wow, they
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  Speaker 2: are a lot bigger than Ohio State. And it's not
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  Speaker 2: like they were just a bunch of big ten brutes
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  Speaker 2: from the olden days. I mean, these were like big
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  Speaker 2: skilled guys. So obviously, I mean, even if you're not
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  Speaker 2: going to be playing that many, you know, a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of tall a bunch of six ten guys at three,
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  Speaker 2: four and five, at least, if you've got more options
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  Speaker 2: there and you can bridge the gap there, I think
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  Speaker 2: that would help. Because it's also I mean I would
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  Speaker 2: probably rather have I would rather have Buyn them than
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  Speaker 2: a moderately you know, developed guy who's like six ten,
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  Speaker 2: because I mean buying them's ceiling is extremely high. So
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  Speaker 2: you're like, how are you, how are you creating? I
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  Speaker 2: think the whole thing is how do you create opportunities
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  Speaker 2: for buying them and mobile to have the most scoring
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  Speaker 2: opportunities because those are two guys that and if they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be good this year, those guys both need
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  Speaker 2: to be all Big ten first team players, and I
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  Speaker 2: think they both definitely have that in them. And then
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  Speaker 2: how do you facilitate that. How do you make sure
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  Speaker 2: you're holding your own on the boards and you're holding
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  Speaker 2: your own defensively. I think that's what you You know,
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  Speaker 2: you're sort of building around those guys, and they have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of intriguing pieces. From that standpoint, it'd be
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  Speaker 2: nice if you just had five boss some players you
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  Speaker 2: could throw out there. Not really realistic, certainly, not something
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  Speaker 2: we've seen at Ohio State in a long time.
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  Speaker 3: But you can see the vision there and how that
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  Speaker 3: could work.
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  Speaker 1: And one other guy who's a part of this vision,
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  Speaker 1: which I mean, is something else you haven't seen at
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State in a long time, Josh a genuine with
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  Speaker 1: the last we were in here last week, he was
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  Speaker 1: just sort of standing on the sidelines and watching. We thought,
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  Speaker 1: oh boy, how you know, what's the timetable? On him
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  Speaker 1: to be out there, and the answer was the timetable
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  Speaker 1: is now. He's out there now. He was just sort
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  Speaker 1: of taken one day off, taking a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a rest. Hey, he had a very very serious leg
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  Speaker 1: injury at Baylor a couple of years ago. Brought him
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  Speaker 1: in last year, didn't play at all, just a year
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  Speaker 1: of recruperation. He's still not one hundred percent working his
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  Speaker 1: way back right now, but it sounds like the plan
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  Speaker 1: right now is for him to be ready right at
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  Speaker 1: the start of the season and ready to contribute at
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  Speaker 1: the start of the season. He's not going to be
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  Speaker 1: a thirty minutes a night guy by any means. But
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  Speaker 1: he also you look at him and it was like
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  Speaker 1: when has Ohio State last had a guy built like that?
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  Speaker 1: Because he's six', ten but he is a really really
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  Speaker 1: solidly built six ten where you're not going to get
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  Speaker 1: pushed around in you, know down near the.
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  Speaker 2: Rim if he's down, there, yeah, yeah we're talking in,
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  Speaker 2: there you, know like A Caleb wess And Jared sollinger
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  Speaker 2: body style type of a.
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  Speaker 3: Thing, yeah they haven't had a whole lot of. THAT
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  Speaker 3: i can't remember how.
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  Speaker 2: Tall Evan, ravenel who's another guy who was here was
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  Speaker 2: but you, know all those Good Ohio state teams were
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  Speaker 2: still except for the One Evan turner team always still
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  Speaker 2: had a big, guy a traditional big GUY i, mean
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  Speaker 2: may have ranged from being pretty.
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  Speaker 3: Good to really really.
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  Speaker 2: Good so you're not looking at having a really really good,
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  Speaker 2: team but a really really good guy like. That but
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  Speaker 2: it will be interesting to. See, yeah it's another, piece
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  Speaker 2: LIKE i, said that they didn't. Have you, know they've
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  Speaker 2: got more length and athleticism and they've got more. Physicality
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  Speaker 2: it looks, like, now how will that blend with trying
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  Speaker 2: to play this kind of you, know, positionless high.
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  Speaker 3: Skill style in, basketball which they want to.
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  Speaker 2: Play it's, again sometimes that stuff you never quite settle
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  Speaker 2: on a winning formula and it doesn't. Work sometimes that
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  Speaker 2: could be something that works out extremely. WELL i mean college.
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  Speaker 2: BASKETBALL i think there's a lot more variance now across
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  Speaker 2: the landscape than there used to. Be but then there's
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  Speaker 2: no substitute for talent and, skill especially if you're not
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  Speaker 2: rolling on too much, youth especially now because you, know
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  Speaker 2: again we haven't even talked About Anthony thompson being a
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  Speaker 2: guy who you, know ten years ago you would be
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  Speaker 2: banking on him coming in and being An All big
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  Speaker 2: ten level. Player, now even if he is An All
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  Speaker 2: big ten level talent as a, freshman the landscape is
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  Speaker 2: a lot more difficult because you're playing a lot more
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  Speaker 2: a lot more, size a lot more. Maturity even if
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  Speaker 2: he has more raw talent than a lot of these,
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  Speaker 2: guys it's going to be more like the olden days
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  Speaker 2: where you come in and even when you're you, know
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  Speaker 2: back in the eighties and, nineties you come in and
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  Speaker 2: even the most talented freshman when you had to deal
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  Speaker 2: with these like legitimate guys who are twenty two and
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  Speaker 2: however much raw ability they, have they've got four years
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  Speaker 2: in the weight, room they've got four years of learning
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  Speaker 2: the tricks of the trade and, everything and you've got
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  Speaker 2: to deal with. That so it's a bit of different
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  Speaker 2: than these guys walking in as freshmen and, well oh,
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  Speaker 2: yeah the other guys you're competing, against they're pretty much
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  Speaker 2: your age or maybe a year, older so that it's
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  Speaker 2: a different type of a playing.
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  Speaker 1: Field and the last guy THAT i wanted to mention
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the big guys that they've brought in this, Year.
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  Speaker 1: Vuklazerov he is a true. Freshman my expectation is this
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  Speaker 1: is going to be a little bit of a learning
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  Speaker 1: and growing year for, him probably someone who needs to
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  Speaker 1: spend a year with the strength and conditioning staff to
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  Speaker 1: get ready to bang down. Low but another seven footer
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  Speaker 1: where this is someone that anything you get out of
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  Speaker 1: him as a true freshman is a. Bonus you know
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  Speaker 1: you have true Freshman Anthony. THOMPSON i THINK. Lj, smith
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  Speaker 1: they want to get something out of. Them for Fuk,
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  Speaker 1: plazaarovitch this feels like a if you get four good
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  Speaker 1: minutes out of him a night at some point this,
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  Speaker 1: season that's probably a big thumbs up and we'll see
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  Speaker 1: you next.
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  Speaker 2: Year, WELL i, MEAN i would think if everybody's, HEALTHY
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  Speaker 2: i don't know if he'll play at all and big
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  Speaker 2: ten games that are. Competitive but that's but you're, right
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  Speaker 2: that's a good thing and it's good to. Have you,
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  Speaker 2: know we've gotten to this where it's been so wild
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  Speaker 2: there's no continuity from year to. Year but you can
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  Speaker 2: still look At i've been saying for a long time
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  Speaker 2: because the formula of recruit as MANY nba quality players
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  Speaker 2: as you can and hope for the best has not
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  Speaker 2: been working for O Higo state for about twelve, years
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  Speaker 2: so maybe they should try to Be wisconsin before they
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  Speaker 2: try to be old Fashioned Ohio state or whoever. Else
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  Speaker 2: and while you look at their roster and they've got
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  Speaker 2: four or five developmental big, guys they've got a couple
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  Speaker 2: of legit four star, prospects.
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  Speaker 3: And then they'll have a couple of good.
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  Speaker 2: Transfers AND i think now it's good to see that
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  Speaker 2: they've got some guys who are big and have some
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  Speaker 2: some ceiling that you don't have to rely. On, obviously
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  Speaker 2: you've got to keep them from year to. Year BUT
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  Speaker 2: i think in the long, Term Ohio state is not
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  Speaker 2: a program that's just going to continually reload with. TALENT
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  Speaker 2: i think your need to have five or six program
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  Speaker 2: guys every.
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  Speaker 3: Year and and.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe if the raw talent is their size is something
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  Speaker 2: you can't. TEACH i think they've you, know they've really
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  Speaker 2: limited and having like skilled, talent which you can be
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  Speaker 2: skilled without being, TALENTED i guess is skilled players skilled size.
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  Speaker 3: Is WHAT i meant to.
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  Speaker 2: Say you, know there needs to be some guys that
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  Speaker 2: you're working on and working, up and there's you're not
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  Speaker 2: just filling every hole every year with freshmen and, transfers
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  Speaker 2: which is what some programs are going to try to.
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  Speaker 2: DO i don't think that's a winning formula For Ohio
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  Speaker 2: state unless there's any people out there who want to
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  Speaker 2: donate much more have so the Nil, fund which if there,
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  Speaker 2: are feel free go, Ahead BUT i wouldn't bank on,
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  Speaker 2: that AND i think that that's the best that's the
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  Speaker 2: long term play, there AND i think it's a good.
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  Speaker 2: Idea whether you get anything out of him or, not
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  Speaker 2: that's for the.
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  Speaker 1: Best, well it feels like in year three of The
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  Speaker 1: Jake deebler, era they're sort of figuring out how to
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  Speaker 1: work within the confines and the constraints that they have
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  Speaker 1: where you're not ever going to be a top of
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  Speaker 1: The big ten in terms of payroll and the ability
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  Speaker 1: to pay, Players so you have to sort of figure, Out,
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  Speaker 1: okay where do you put your resources and where do
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  Speaker 1: you try and, Go, okay we're going to try and
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  Speaker 1: find some value. Here and maybe it's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a process and it's not an immediate plug and.
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  Speaker 1: Play it might Be, okay it's going to take a. Year,
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  Speaker 1: okay it's a guy who's coming in and he might
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: not be healthy for his first. Year but then if
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: you can get him a second. Year that's a real.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Opportunity it feels like just as a, program they're sort
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: of the general trend line With Ohigo state basketball through
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years has been, upwards and it
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: feels like they're doing a decent job of figuring, Out,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: okay what are the constraints we're working within and how
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: do you fix how do you how do you make
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: the best team out of?
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: That, WELL i think just like in football and, baseball
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: basketball is a little different with the slotting of all
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: the salaries and. Stuff but just like in football and,
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: baseball you have to overpay for free. Agents so you
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: can look at it two. WAYS i, mean you're gonna
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: you don't necessarily have to get a discount from the
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: guys you trans you bring in the guys you. Develop
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: but if you can get your own guys and keep
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: them at market, value you know what you're. GETTING i,
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: mean there's there's you never know with basically any. Transfer
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: the transfers that look great on paper all over the
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: place don't work. Out Ohio state transfers have worked out
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: less probably than a lot of other. Programs SO i, think,
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: again that's what you've got to, do AND i also
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: think you can be like to some of these smaller market.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: Teams you, know you can push the budget a little
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: bit when you know it's going to be worth it
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: because you know you're going to be good and then
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: winning that gets, winning and that's going to bring in
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: more nil. Money it's going to bring in more guys
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: who are, like, well maybe you, Know i'd rather be
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: part of this then absolutely max out WHAT i can
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: get someplace else, Too so it all kind of builds on.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Itself so, AGAIN i think the developmental thing is something
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: that's been lacking for a long. Time partly it's not
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: Necessarily Ohio state's. Fall it's just college basketball has gotten.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: Funky even back in The mada, ERA i, mean guys
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: were starting to. Leave it just wasn't as super charged
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: as it is now in terms of keeping guys. Around
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: and So i'm optimistic THAT i think they're trending toward
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: the type of program that they need to be in
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: terms of being a developmental program that can supplement with
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: the elite talents when you get, them you.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: KNOW i, mean Maybe Michigan state is even more.
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: Of A it's not that they just go out there
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: and sign multiple McDonald's All americans every. Year they've got
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: guys that are developing that they've got talented, guys and
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: they don't really flip the roster every year, either BECAUSE
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: i flipping the roster even, if like If may had
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: stayed At, MICHIGAN i, MEAN i don't think it was
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: any sure thing he wasn't going to have SOME i
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: mean you take it with the. Championship, yeah it's no
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: sure thing that you weren't going to have a year
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: where it just all fell apart and didn't work. Out
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: AND i think the same thing with. Football you, Know
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Ohio state's trying to avoid having to bring in too
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: many transfers at least every.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Year you're going to have some years where you need
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: more than.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Others but because you just never know where that mix
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: is just too volatile and it falls, apart Like Florida
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: state or something like.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: That, yeah the more people you're bringing, in the more
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: stuff you're, changing the higher variance of a season you've.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Got and that can be good and that can be.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Bad so this Year Ohio state definitely a new look
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: for The Ohio State buckeyes men's basketball, team but an
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: intriguing mix, big big front, court some couple five star,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: freshmen some really intriguing pieces. There so we will see
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: how that all comes, together and we'll be doing that
• 16:38
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• 16:41
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• 16:43
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• 16:51
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