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- 0:02You're listening to the
- 0:03Play Therapy Parenting Podcast with Dr. Brenna Hicks.
- 0:09Hi, I'm Doctor Brenna Hicks, The Kid Counselor.
- 0:11This is the Play Therapy Parenting Podcast where I give
- 0:14you insight awareness and enlightenment about your parenting
- 0:17and your relationship with your kids.
- 0:19In today's episode, I am answering a question from Noel
- 0:23and she has been working on consequences
- 0:28and trying to make sure that the consequences are related to the behaviors.
- 0:34And she mentioned that getting out the door in the morning as part
- 0:38of the morning routine before the bus shows up is a daily challenge.
- 0:42Sound familiar to any of you all.
- 0:45I hear that story a lot.
- 0:47So the morning routine getting to the bus on time,
- 0:50getting to school on time can definitely be extremely tricky.
- 0:54So Noel,
- 0:54thank you so much for the email and I'll be able
- 0:57to read parts of your email and then share some thoughts.
- 1:01So by the way,
- 1:02if you all are interested in having me answer a question on a future episode,
- 1:06you can email me brenna@thekidcounselor.com or
- 1:09you can leave a message on the call in line
- 1:12which is 812. Nope, sorry. 813-812-5525.
- 1:18And then you can leave a message for me and I can answer it that way as well.
- 1:21So, Noel, thank you so much for the email
- 1:24and I'd like to read some of this for you.
- 1:26And then we'll dive into some
- 1:27thoughts about a child-centered play therapy approach
- 1:30on making sure that the morning routine is a little bit easier.
- 1:33So here are parts of her email.
- 1:36We've grown very tired of 20 or more reminders, begging and pleading to get dressed,
- 1:41brush teeth, eat breakfast, get shoes on, et cetera.
- 1:43Most days it turns into if you don't finish getting dressed right now,
- 1:48no candy at dessert tonight,
- 1:50which is an unrelated consequence that they do care about,
- 1:53but it doesn't help them stay on task the next day.
- 1:56The natural consequence of missing the bus is not acceptable
- 2:00because it would only be a consequence for the parents.
- 2:03My daughter often gets mad locking her door because
- 2:05she doesn't like all the reminders to get dressed.
- 2:08But when I pry it open, she's usually in there playing or laying in bed, half dressed
- 2:13and I struggle to find a connected consequence.
- 2:16We often wind up raising our voices or starting the day on the wrong foot
- 2:19with repetitive consequences or panicked yelling to get
- 2:23shoes on that don't improve the situation.
- 2:25I know there must be a better way. My kids are five and seven.
- 2:28The seven year olds,
- 2:29seven year old has inattentive ADHD making time management even more difficult.
- 2:34I'd love to use patience but the bus is not patient.
- 2:37Do we need to wake up an hour earlier
- 2:40or is there? No, no, you do not?
- 2:42Or is there a better way to re remind firmly without nagging in fights?
- 2:46And also maybe a related consequence that I haven't thought of already.
- 2:50And then she briefly brings up, she's heard of some people using Amazon Alexa
- 2:54for reminders,
- 2:55but she's nervous to add tech to the household without consequences.
- 2:59And I am a firm opponent of
- 3:03adding technology to your household.
- 3:06I wrote a book about it. I don't mention it often. But if you all are interested in
- 3:10the effect that screens are having on your children and their brains,
- 3:13please check out Device Detox.
- 3:15It's available on Amazon
- 3:17in book printed form and in ebook Kindle form.
- 3:21So no, I do not advise
- 3:24tech reminders, Amazon Alexa,
- 3:26anything like that, Noel. So I'm just not even going to read that part because
- 3:30I'm gonna give you some other strategies that I believe are much more helpful.
- 3:35The path to calm, confident and in control. Parenting starts now.
- 3:44Ok. So one of the things that we talk about in the parenting coaching
- 3:50is you set yourself up for success by strategically providing choices
- 3:56when you know
- 3:58that there are going to be
- 4:00expected, problematic behaviors.
- 4:03In other words, it's already been established for you that every single morning,
- 4:07it's the same issue over and over again.
- 4:09So when you know that there are anticipated behavior struggles,
- 4:14you can structure choices
- 4:16to address that proactively,
- 4:19to set you and your kids up for success.
- 4:22So the very first thing that you would want to do
- 4:25is provide choices the night before.
- 4:28Here's why this works
- 4:31actually quite a few reasons. So I'll try to unpack them one at a time.
- 4:34So the first is when you provide choices with kids,
- 4:37they have buy in and ownership
- 4:40and we want buy in and ownership to avoid the nagging.
- 4:44If your kids are bought in
- 4:46to
- 4:47whatever they chose,
- 4:49it will eliminate all of the reminding and hounding and nagging that you hate.
- 4:53Anyway,
- 4:54the goal of choice giving is for
- 4:56kids to have ownership and responsibility themselves,
- 4:59which therefore means you don't have to nag and remind and hound.
- 5:03That's the beauty of choice giving.
- 5:05So you're going to provide choices the night before so
- 5:08that there are buy in and ownership with your kids.
- 5:11Secondly, the night before is not the stressful time.
- 5:16The night before is not when you typically are
- 5:18already in a heightened emotional state as a family.
- 5:22So you're going to structure the environment
- 5:25at a calm, neutral time
- 5:27so that everyone is able to be more compliant.
- 5:31So when you provide choices the night before,
- 5:33not only does it set and structure you to have a more pleasant morning,
- 5:38but it's not
- 5:39going to likely be a fight
- 5:42because
- 5:43the nights are from what at least your email doesn't say pretty peaceful.
- 5:48All right. So
- 5:49you know that getting dressed, brushing teeth, eating breakfast is a struggle.
- 5:55So you're gonna provide choices with what you
- 5:57can provide choices with getting shoes on.
- 5:59Not really an option, brushing teeth, not really an option.
- 6:03However, getting dressed is an option.
- 6:06So
- 6:07do you choose to wear this shirt or this shirt tomorrow? Which do you choose,
- 6:12do you choose to wear these shoes or these shoes tomorrow? Which do you choose?
- 6:17The more choices can be made ahead of time?
- 6:20The child has already bought in the child has already committed to do that.
- 6:25So there will be less fight and less power struggle
- 6:28in the morning.
- 6:30Also,
- 6:31the more choices you provide consistently
- 6:35for empowerment,
- 6:37the more the child does not feel the need to
- 6:40fight for so much control and everything you're describing.
- 6:43Noel is a power struggle.
- 6:46It's rooted in a fight for control.
- 6:49You want them to do something,
- 6:51they don't wanna do something and kids only have control over a handful of things
- 6:56and one of which is obedience.
- 6:59So they are refusing to do what you're asking
- 7:02because they want some power over the situation.
- 7:06But by giving them choices, you are giving them power consistently.
- 7:11So another option, you said eating breakfast
- 7:15tomorrow, you can choose to eat cereal for breakfast or you can choose to eat
- 7:22pancakes for breakfast, which do you choose
- 7:26once the child has already agreed that tomorrow morning, I want this food
- 7:31when you prepare that food and say, ok, you chose to have pancakes,
- 7:35your pancakes are ready.
- 7:36There will likely be less of a fight
- 7:38because they've already committed to eat pancakes.
- 7:42So I'm hopeful that you can see how this connects.
- 7:44So the night before the more choices you can provide for the next day,
- 7:49the better it will be because there will already be
- 7:52lack of power and control needs being worked in.
- 7:56Ok.
- 7:57The next thought,
- 7:59I'm gonna share a personal story here.
- 8:01I was not a child that
- 8:03had a difficult time with like doing what I was
- 8:06told to do as far as like obedience and stuff.
- 8:09But I liked to take my time
- 8:12and I did a lot of things very slowly
- 8:15and that meant that I often was not ready when my mom was ready to leave
- 8:20and she is an early person and I was
- 8:22not particularly concerned with being early at all.
- 8:25As a matter of fact, I was perfectly fine, being late
- 8:28and so much to my husband's dismay, he's like
- 8:31on time is late and early is on time. And I was like, said Brenna never.
- 8:36But anyway.
- 8:37So I grew up in a household where my mom always wanted
- 8:39to be early and I just didn't really give two hoots.
- 8:43So she would say let's go and I would still be getting ready.
- 8:47And what she started doing was she would
- 8:50put the garage door up and she would back the car out and she
- 8:53would back out of the driveway and she would start driving down my road.
- 8:56I grew up on Kent Avenue.
- 8:57She would start driving down Kent Avenue and I would
- 9:01fly out the front door holding whatever I still needed to take care of.
- 9:06And I would catch up to the car and I would jump
- 9:09in the back seat after she was already on the street leaving.
- 9:13And that became a pretty consistent pattern because she just
- 9:17kept saying I am not going to wait for you.
- 9:19When now, granted, she didn't know choice giving language.
- 9:22So she didn't use the child-centered approach.
- 9:25But essentially what she said was if you choose not to be ready,
- 9:28when I say it's time to go,
- 9:30you choose for me to leave and you choose to have to run after me to catch up to the car.
- 9:36And that's what I did for quite a long time.
- 9:38Well, here's where I'm going with this story.
- 9:40I was part of a singing group that traveled
- 9:43nationally when I was young
- 9:46and we had practice
- 9:49two hours away from where we lived
- 9:52and
- 9:53we were there all day. It was an all day practice every time we went
- 9:57and people came from all over the state to practice. So it was a state group
- 10:02and we had people literally from all over
- 10:04the state of Florida meeting for this practice.
- 10:06So it was a very long practice
- 10:08and it was two hours away from home.
- 10:10So the moral of the story is, it was another one of those,
- 10:12my mom backs out of the driveway,
- 10:14backs into the street and starts driving down the road and I'm running down,
- 10:18carrying my brush and my makeup and whatever.
- 10:22And we get all the way to Lake Wales, which is the city where we were practicing.
- 10:27And that was two hours from our home
- 10:30and it dawns on me that I did not bring shoes.
- 10:34I forgot to grab them in my frantic rush to
- 10:37run out the door and chase her down the street
- 10:41and we pull into the parking lot at practice and I go, oh my gosh, I didn't bring shoes
- 10:46and my mom's like,
- 10:48well, that's what happens when you're not ready on time.
- 10:52And I literally was like, can't go home and get them. She's not gonna go buy me any.
- 10:57I guess I'm walking into practice barefoot
- 11:00and I spent the entire day barefoot at practice.
- 11:03And it was the last time
- 11:06that I forgot things and that I was chasing my mom down the road.
- 11:12Why? Natural consequence of choices
- 11:17I hated the fact that I didn't have shoes and that I forgot them.
- 11:20And I had to walk around barefoot all day.
- 11:23And I was like,
- 11:24this is not worth it.
- 11:26I will just be ready on time and I won't bring all my stuff with me anymore.
- 11:30So Noel, I'm sharing that story to illustrate a point
- 11:35when you mention you want to have related consequences
- 11:38and you want there to be connection between the behavior
- 11:43once you've given choices
- 11:45and once you've made it very clear what the expectation is
- 11:49after they've chosen not to comply three times,
- 11:53you move to ultimate choice giving
- 11:56and here's what that looks like.
- 11:58I'm going to say your child's name is Sarah.
- 12:01I don't even know if it's a boy or girl, but I'm gonna go with Sarah.
- 12:04So you're going to say Sarah,
- 12:07we've been having a lot of difficulties getting you
- 12:10on the bus on time in the mornings.
- 12:12So moving forward, there are new expectations.
- 12:17You can phrase that however you want.
- 12:19We're about to institute a new and significant
- 12:21policy within the confines of this household.
- 12:23Whatever you want to say, to get your child's attention
- 12:26and to communicate
- 12:28the rules that I'm about to share with
- 12:30you are going to change your life and you need to be paying attention.
- 12:34So whatever needs to be expressed,
- 12:36to help them understand the weight of what you're about to say.
- 12:40Then you move into the ultimate choice.
- 12:44If you choose to be ready
- 12:46by 8:05 so that you can make the bus on time.
- 12:51You choose to have everything you need for your day at school.
- 12:57If you choose not to be ready by 8:05,
- 13:00You choose to get on the bus in whatever state you find yourself
- 13:07and moms especially. But parents, grandparents, caregivers of all kinds.
- 13:13It is really hard to let your child deal with the natural consequence
- 13:17of their decisions when they choose not to be ready by 8:05.
- 13:21But let me tell you,
- 13:23Sarah will only get on that bus with no shoes one time.
- 13:27She will only get on that bus in her pajamas
- 13:30one time.
- 13:32She will only get on that school bus with her
- 13:34hair in a tangled knotted mess because she didn't brush it
- 13:38one time.
- 13:40She will only not eat breakfast before she goes to school
- 13:45when she gets on the bus one time
- 13:48because the natural consequence of decisions
- 13:51are significant
- 13:53and they are huge lesson teachers.
- 13:56So notice that the if then choice, if you choose to be ready by 8:05,
- 14:01you choose to get on the bus with everything that you need.
- 14:04If you choose to not be ready at 8:05,
- 14:07you choose to get on the bus in whatever state you're in.
- 14:12And yes, you enforce that consequence even when she chooses to get on the bus
- 14:17in her pajamas
- 14:19and the whole time she's crying and freaking
- 14:22out and so embarrassed and so miserable.
- 14:25And how can you do this to me? And you're the worst mom ever?
- 14:28And I hate you and I will not get on that bus
- 14:30and every other thing that's going to come out of her mouth,
- 14:33you're going to say
- 14:35you're really disappointed that you chose not to be ready at 8:05.
- 14:38But tomorrow you can choose to be ready at 8:05.
- 14:43Self control,
- 14:45self regulation,
- 14:47self motivation,
- 14:50intrinsic
- 14:51locus of control.
- 14:54You don't nag you don't hound.
- 14:56You don't remind, you don't beg, you don't plead, you don't yell,
- 15:00you don't do anything.
- 15:01You calmly set an if then choice
- 15:04and you calmly acknowledge what choice was made.
- 15:09Sarah.
- 15:09I see that you chose to be ready at 8:05 and you
- 15:12choose to have everything you need to go to school and you're ready
- 15:17or
- 15:18I see you've chosen to go to school in your pajamas today. Let's go.
- 15:22No, no, no, no, no. Oh, you're really frustrated. You chose not to be ready at 8:05.
- 15:27But tomorrow you can choose to be ready
- 15:30and you put her on the bus in her pajamas. It will only happen one time
- 15:34and guess what you would have chosen for her to be ready.
- 15:39You would have chosen for her to choose to have everything she needed done,
- 15:44but she chose to not be ready.
- 15:47Therefore, all you're doing is enforcing her choice.
- 15:51You don't have any emotional charge over this.
- 15:54You are completely calm,
- 15:56completely rational, completely neutral
- 16:00and you just acknowledge the choice that was made. You reflect her feeling.
- 16:03You acknowledge her choice and you remind her that tomorrow
- 16:06is a new opportunity to make a different choice.
- 16:09And I promise you she will start being ready by 8:05
- 16:14because she will choose to be ready by 8:05 because she chooses to not have to deal with
- 16:20going to school and getting on the bus in
- 16:21whatever state she found herself when she wasn't ready.
- 16:26So Noel, I hope that you find that helpful. I hope that that's encouraging to you.
- 16:29I hope that's encouraging to all of you
- 16:32be mindful that when you give choices,
- 16:36you do not have to be the disciplinarian, you do not have to be the enforcer.
- 16:41All you do is acknowledge what choice was made.
- 16:45And sometimes your kids are going to choose really, really stinky outcomes
- 16:51and you're gonna feel for them. But guess what
- 16:53they will learn and they will learn to self control, they will learn to self regulate
- 16:58and it will not continue and guess what
- 17:00your mornings are going to be peacefully happy
- 17:03because she's going to do what she needs to do
- 17:06because she knows what the stakes are.
- 17:09So
- 17:10final wrap up.
- 17:12If you choose to be ready by 8:05,
- 17:16you choose to have everything you need to go to school.
- 17:19That's the if, then positive,
- 17:21if, then negative, if you choose not to be ready by 8:05,
- 17:24you choose to go to school in whatever state you are in at 8:05.
- 17:29Which do you choose? Notice that I said the word choose five times.
- 17:33Make sure that you do that. It's not a choice.
- 17:35If you just say if you're not ready by 8:05, you're going to school.
- 17:39However you are, that's a threat.
- 17:43If you need a refresher on choice giving,
- 17:44go back and listen to the choice giving pillar.
- 17:47So we use the word choose,
- 17:49but then all we do is acknowledge what choice was made. I see you chose to be ready
- 17:53or I see you chose not to be ready
- 17:56and then the associated consequence
- 17:58comes with it.
- 18:00Noel. Thanks a lot. I'm really help. I'm really happy that you sent that email.
- 18:04I'm hopeful that that was helpful to all of you.
- 18:06If you want to send me an email, please feel free.
- 18:08I'd love to hear from you or you can call.
- 18:10Thanks again for your time.
- 18:12Thanks for taking me with you on your walks
- 18:14and your runs and your folding of clothes and your
- 18:17grocery runs or whatever else
- 18:19for
- 18:19doing. Thanks for all the time that you share with me each week.
- 18:22We'll talk again soon. Bye.
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