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• 0:11
  Speaker 1: It's them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as if the debate in half an hour between
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister and the opposition to be Peter Dutton
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  Speaker 2: wasn't going to be tense enough and make or break,
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  Speaker 2: particularly for Peter Dutton is behind in the polls. Last
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  Speaker 2: minute drama even more pressure on the Opposition leader. Peter
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  Speaker 2: Dutton's father has been rushed to hospital with something serious.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine stepping onto the stage in half an
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  Speaker 2: hour fighting for the chance to be Prime minister knowing
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  Speaker 2: your fathers in such a serious, such a serious condition.
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  Speaker 1: Wow wow.
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  Speaker 2: Well for the rest of us, there's also something else
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  Speaker 2: to consider. This is the first of only two debates
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  Speaker 2: that anythink the alban Easy is so far there to
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  Speaker 2: agree to, and I think that's really pathetic. We are
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  Speaker 2: having to choose between the two guys.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: We'll have to.
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  Speaker 2: They'll be having our future, our economy, our defense, our
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  Speaker 2: jobs in their hands.
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  Speaker 1: For three years.
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  Speaker 2: We really need to have a law in this country,
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  Speaker 2: a law that every election must have at least three
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  Speaker 2: debates between the two main contenders, probably four. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: as Peter Dutton has wanted for this campaign, we can't
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  Speaker 2: have elections decided by which party runs the slickest ads
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  Speaker 2: or tells the biggest lives of social media. We've got
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  Speaker 2: to take the election out of the hands of the
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  Speaker 2: spinners and the advertised advertising gurus and the back room
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  Speaker 2: boys and the spears, and put in the hands of
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  Speaker 2: the leaders who are actually asking for your vote. See
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  Speaker 2: them head to head. What's Albany is you trying to
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  Speaker 2: hide today? We might find out tonight. This could be
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  Speaker 2: the biggest chance left for to turn the election back
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  Speaker 2: to what really matters. That this government has made Australians poorer,
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  Speaker 2: cut our standard of living, left us now with trillion
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  Speaker 2: a trillion dollars worth of debt, just when the world
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: economy looks like in big trouble, and we know the
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  Speaker 2: economy is in strife, stock market's going crazy around the world.
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  Speaker 2: We know because Treasure of Jim Chalmers, yes that there
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  Speaker 2: was basically there'll be lots of interest rate cuts after
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: the election. How convenient without adding that's because our economy
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: looks like being clobbed now. Peter Dutton was onto that today.
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  Speaker 3: Now the Treasure is out there talking about a fifty
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  Speaker 3: point reduction in interest rates, which means obviously that he
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  Speaker 3: sees a recession coming for our economy. He wouldn't be
• 2:35
  Speaker 3: talking about fifty points as a reduction next month if
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  Speaker 3: he didn't believe that there was going to be a
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  Speaker 3: significant souring of the Australian economy.
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  Speaker 2: Is Australia heading into recession?
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  Speaker 3: Well it is under labor obviously. The government just hasn't
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  Speaker 3: prepared our economy.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Peter Dutton wasn't exaggerating there or not much anything.
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  Speaker 2: Albanezi this morning twice refused to deny we did now
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  Speaker 2: face a possible recession.
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  Speaker 4: Have you left the budget in a position where government
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  Speaker 4: will be able to be able to adequately respond in the.
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  Speaker 5: Event that there is a global recession. We have turned
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  Speaker 5: what we inherited, which was deficits each and every year,
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  Speaker 5: into either surpluses or a lower deficit.
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  Speaker 2: That's dangerously misleading. In fact, the truth is, of course
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  Speaker 2: that Albanezi blew a massive wind fall that his government
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  Speaker 2: got from record prices for minerals and gas. They're coming
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  Speaker 2: off and now the money's gone, and Alberanzi's last budget
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  Speaker 2: just last month promises instead a decade of deficits and
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  Speaker 2: a trillion dollar debt next year. He's left us with
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  Speaker 2: nothing in the kiddy to deal with any troubles ahead
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  Speaker 2: that is very serious. So in half an hour perhaps
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  Speaker 2: your best chance left to compare the two men directly
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  Speaker 2: and judge which has a plan for our future. As
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  Speaker 2: Peter Dutton said this morning, we can now finally focus
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  Speaker 2: on the real issue of this campaign.
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  Speaker 3: This election is about who has a better plan to
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  Speaker 3: manage our economy in very difficult and uncertain times. Who
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  Speaker 3: has the ability to keep our country safe in a
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  Speaker 3: very uncertain period in history.
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  Speaker 2: But seriously, we've got just two debates that decide something
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  Speaker 2: this big, this monumental, that is insane. The Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: today actually did promise a billion dollars for more mental
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  Speaker 2: health care. That's after we of course have the number
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  Speaker 2: of psychologists sessions you can get on Medicare. But it
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  Speaker 2: was just getting started talking about this when a real
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  Speaker 2: mental health issue in this country yet again disrupted Labour's campaign,
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  Speaker 2: a protest that's so deluded that she was convinced global
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  Speaker 2: warming was making us mad.
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  Speaker 5: In public service.
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  Speaker 4: And and I haven't been.
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  Speaker 2: Global warming is causing mental health issues. In fact, it's global.
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  Speaker 1: Warming scare mongering that is doing that.
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  Speaker 2: The fear campaigns, mergaphvirus killer, heat waves, whole islands will drown,
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  Speaker 2: and that is what's causing people like that young woman
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  Speaker 2: to freak, to shout and to scream over people. And
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  Speaker 2: she isn't alone, I mean, other global warming protests so
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  Speaker 2: far also disrupted Albaneze's campaign. Shrieking, shrieking, the global warming
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  Speaker 2: is threatening their lives, their children's lives, our future. Frankly,
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  Speaker 2: they sound unhinged.
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  Speaker 5: On the line.
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  Speaker 2: I want to say children practice is the greatest health threat.
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  Speaker 2: Russian Jim Chalmers had another of these climate extremists disruptive
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  Speaker 2: press conference, another woman so irrational that she thinks that
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  Speaker 2: gas for our heating and cooking is actually so frightening
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  Speaker 2: that she too is driven to screams, why is.
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  Speaker 6: Your government supporting woodside climate freaking.
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  Speaker 4: Bar hub projects?
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  Speaker 7: Well, gas companies are breaking us off.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The truth is, sane people would know, sensible people, rational people,
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  Speaker 2: is that there is no cause for this panic. Your
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  Speaker 2: chances of dying from climate related disasters have absolutely plummeted
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  Speaker 2: over that century. More so, all up, there's in fact,
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  Speaker 2: never been a safer time to be alive. The sky
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  Speaker 2: is not falling in yet. Even Albanezi government ministers are
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  Speaker 2: recklessly telling scary stories to the vulnerable people people like
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  Speaker 2: you just saw about how global warming is coming to
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  Speaker 2: get them.
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  Speaker 8: More of us are sweltering through increasingly deadly heat waves,
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  Speaker 8: and some of us are too regularly watching the floodwaters
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  Speaker 8: creep higher as others wait for the rains in more frequent,
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  Speaker 8: enduring droughts.
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  Speaker 2: And these ministers are themselves so crazed with global warming
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  Speaker 2: that they claim will be saved by a miracle green
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  Speaker 2: gas that no one has yet proved can actually work
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  Speaker 2: without everyone going broke.
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  Speaker 8: Now, green hydrogen future is fundamental to that clean energy future.
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  Speaker 2: Green hydrogen that was this government's big green dream. But
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  Speaker 2: since then, one green hydrogen project after another, most backed
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  Speaker 2: by Minister Crisbone himself, have actually collapsed, just as I predicted.
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  Speaker 2: And isn't that an example of a collective madness right there?
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  Speaker 2: And listen, The government wants to help mental health, could
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  Speaker 2: do it on the cheap, but just stop scaring our
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  Speaker 2: young so stupid. I stop wasting this country's wealth and
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  Speaker 2: fake fixes to a climate crisis from what I can
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  Speaker 2: make out, simply doesn't exist, and it's just making power
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  Speaker 2: prices too expensive. Use that money instead on what does exist,
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  Speaker 2: like an economy in trouble. It is time we got
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  Speaker 2: real again. Peter Dunton was much tighter in this press conference.
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  Speaker 2: Today is media events today also much more color and
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  Speaker 2: movement targeting what the colors you should have done from
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  Speaker 2: the start cost of living and Dunton's promised the cut
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  Speaker 2: petrol EXAs for twenty five cents a liter.
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  Speaker 1: While we're trying to reduce the aproprice. It's on learning
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  Speaker 1: bed health. If we're going to do that, yeah, very weird.
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  Speaker 1: We good to cut the tax in.
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  Speaker 2: Half so that better performance today and Peter Dunton will
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  Speaker 2: hope tonight the obvious worry he'll have about his father
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely critical because what has hurt the Coalition is
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  Speaker 2: less their policies than their communications. It's their failure to
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  Speaker 2: argue well for their policies and to call out Labour's lies.
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  Speaker 2: Have been so flat footed. Give you an example. Peter
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  Speaker 2: Dutton yesterday had to dump his plan to make public
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  Speaker 2: servants in Canberra and go back to the office after
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  Speaker 2: Albanzi lied that was actually wanting to stop every worker
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  Speaker 2: in the country from working from home. The Coalition is bleeding.
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  Speaker 2: Many women voters. Oh no, we can't have this yet.
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  Speaker 2: Alban eazy isn't criticizing the New South Wales labor premiere
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  Speaker 2: for wanting to ban his own public servants from working
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  Speaker 2: from home, which the premier was still pushing today.
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  Speaker 9: We believe it's the only way of mentoring the next
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  Speaker 9: generation of people to come through officers and ensure that
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  Speaker 9: they've got good modeled behavior, a sense of shared mission
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  Speaker 9: and an idea of where they're going actively together in
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  Speaker 9: order for us to fulfill the mission of government and
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  Speaker 9: public service. It means that you've got to build a
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  Speaker 9: team culture and that can really only be done in
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  Speaker 9: the workplace.
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  Speaker 1: Labor.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what hypocrites labor stopping public servants working from home.
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  Speaker 2: That's good Peter Dunton saying it, Oh, that's bad. Joining
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  Speaker 2: me is our Tuesday regular commentator Matt Canavan, the National Senator,
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  Speaker 2: a former resource has been scared mad great to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Look what what amazing pressure on Peter Dutton to have
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  Speaker 2: to do this debate when has just heard his father's
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  Speaker 2: being taken to hospital.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that is huge pressure.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Andrew, my thoughts and prayers go to the Dunton
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  Speaker 7: family tonight. They've got a lovely family. Peter and Kierley
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  Speaker 7: and their sons. So look, I just hope they get
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  Speaker 7: through this. I hope Peter's father recovers. And you know,
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  Speaker 7: I'm confident Peter will show tonight to why he deserves
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  Speaker 7: to be the next Prime minister. I don't think he
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  Speaker 7: has to do that tonight. He doesn't prove that he
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  Speaker 7: is the next Prime minister tonight, because he's done that
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  Speaker 7: over the past three years. Over the past three years,
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  Speaker 7: Peter has shown consistently that he would have made a
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  Speaker 7: better prime minister, a better leader of this country than
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  Speaker 7: Anthony Albanezi. Peter showed that when he had the courage
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  Speaker 7: to stand against Anthony Eberaneze's divisive and wasteful voice and
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  Speaker 7: won that debate, brought the Australian people unified the Australian
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  Speaker 7: people with him. Peter showed that when he stood against
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  Speaker 7: the wasteful spending of this government which forced inflation high
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  Speaker 7: and dropped our cost outstand of living sorry to the
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  Speaker 7: lowest levels in the developed world world. Peter's shown that
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  Speaker 7: when he's taken courage to say we should end our
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  Speaker 7: ban on nuclear energy, get more gas into the system.
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  Speaker 7: The energy crisis is crippling small businesses through this country.
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  Speaker 7: I spoke to many more here today in Bunderberg with
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  Speaker 7: our candidate David bat and Peter Dutton is the better
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  Speaker 7: leader because he's got a plan to help free up
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  Speaker 7: housing for young Australians by cutting the migration intake. After
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  Speaker 7: this government's completely botched the reopening of our borders post
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  Speaker 7: COVID and let more than a million people in in
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  Speaker 7: just two years. So the plan under the L and
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  Speaker 7: P is much better. Well, I believe we've proved that
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  Speaker 7: over the past three years and there will be another
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  Speaker 7: opportunity tonight to show these trained people why we need
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  Speaker 7: a change of government, not more of the same.
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  Speaker 2: Well, have to do it better than the opposity to
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  Speaker 2: be making its case in the election campaign so far,
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: obviously because the polls show there's been a drift away
• 12:26
  Speaker 2: from them. Just to update people, Peter Dutton's father apparently
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  Speaker 2: suffered a medical emergency just one hour before the debate,
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: so that's what's happening there. The Prime Minister, I have
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  Speaker 2: to say it was embarrassed today. Matt canavanber reports that
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  Speaker 2: former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrew has helped to coach him
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  Speaker 2: for tonight's debate, which avenues he didn't want to admit
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  Speaker 2: to today, but Peter Dutton was happy to hear.
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  Speaker 8: Have liten is Dan Andrews channeling Peter Dutton to help you.
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  Speaker 5: I look forward to discussing not just with Peter Dutton,
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  Speaker 5: but importantly as well discuss with the people who will
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  Speaker 5: come along and ask questions.
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  Speaker 3: I hope that Daniel Andrews is out publicly with the
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister, if it's good enough for him to tell
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  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister how we should run the debate and
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  Speaker 3: how he should run the economy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, some good news about all this chaos recently overseas
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  Speaker 2: one some of the panic about Donald Trump's tariffs on
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  Speaker 2: all imports of the US.
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  Speaker 1: As ease in America.
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  Speaker 2: No further falls overnight, and stock prices in Australia stocks
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  Speaker 2: today actually bounced back two point three percent. That's more
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  Speaker 2: than half of what they lost yesterday, although it's still
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  Speaker 2: the fraction of the past week's losses. And if Trump
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  Speaker 2: actually does win deals from other countries to cut their tariffs,
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  Speaker 2: provided he cuts Americas, the US President might even turn
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: this havoc into a partial gain, but at least just
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  Speaker 2: for America. He's now suggesting dozens of countries are actually
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  Speaker 2: after such a deal from him.
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  Speaker 10: Now they're offering things to us that we would have
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  Speaker 10: never even thought of asking them for, because they're experiencing
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  Speaker 10: a lot of hurt. And the hurt is that they've
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  Speaker 10: taken advantage of us, and we finally fought back. Tariffs
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  Speaker 10: will make this country very rich.
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  Speaker 1: But then there's China.
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  Speaker 2: It's instead promised revenge tariffs and bans on American imports
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  Speaker 2: and if Trump and Trump is now warning that if
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  Speaker 2: China doesn't back off, it's going to hit it with
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  Speaker 2: another fifty percent tariff up top of the fifty four
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  Speaker 2: percent is already ordered. But there's more trouble for Trump
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  Speaker 2: on another front. Is promised to stop the war in Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: It's so far going nowhere. Russia is still stalling on
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  Speaker 2: a ceasefire plan and is meanwhile bombing civilian targets in Ukraine,
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  Speaker 2: deliberately killing nine children on the weekend in what's clearly
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  Speaker 2: a terror campaign. And surely now Trump realizes it was
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: a mistake for him to go soft on Russia and
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  Speaker 2: weaken Ukraine when it's top general in Europe last week
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  Speaker 2: said the Russian offensive in Ukraine has actually stalled.
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  Speaker 11: In recent weeks, the Russian offensives have sort of petered out.
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  Speaker 11: It's very hard to envision Ukraine collapsing and losing that conflict.
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  Speaker 11: They're in a much better position than they were.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me is Michael Schubridge, a former senior defense official
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  Speaker 2: and now founder and director of Strategic Analysis Australia. Michael,
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  Speaker 2: great to see you again. Look, it does seem Trump's
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  Speaker 2: foreign policy in some chaos. For this reason alone is
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  Speaker 2: serious enough. He's making enemies of his friends and has
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  Speaker 2: so far been letting real enemies run right, Russia or
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  Speaker 2: China in particular.
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  Speaker 6: How do you see it, well, Andrew, I think you're
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  Speaker 6: onto something. I think Donald Trump has two basic problems.
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  Speaker 6: The first one is he thinks Vladimir Putin is his friend.
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  Speaker 6: And the second one is he thinks that the rest
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  Speaker 6: of the world world, ohs, America, are a living and
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  Speaker 6: on Putin. The truth is Putin is bogged down in Ukraine,
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  Speaker 6: but he's an aggressive autocrat who wants to resurrect the
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  Speaker 6: Soviet Empire, and he's delighted if Donald Trump wants to help.
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  Speaker 6: And on the second one, America is the richest, most
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  Speaker 6: powerful nation on the planet and now behaving like a
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  Speaker 6: victim and trying to extract billions of dollars from every
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  Speaker 6: other country on the planet makes no sense outside his megabase.
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  Speaker 6: And frankly, the EU and China are starting to push
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  Speaker 6: back and they have real power to do so.
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  Speaker 2: And I think though he could don Trump his strength
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  Speaker 2: is his unpredictability in one sense. I actually think that's
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  Speaker 2: an overrated virtue, that it's a strength. In one sense.
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  Speaker 2: He could pivot, he could go for Putin, luck he
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  Speaker 2: had gone for Ukraine's president.
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  Speaker 1: Do you see that likely?
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  Speaker 6: I don't. I think he's over years, he's shown too
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  Speaker 6: much regard for Putin, and he sees Ukraine as part
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  Speaker 6: of the whole reason he didn't win the last American
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  Speaker 6: election before the one before this latest one. So these
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  Speaker 6: personal grievances go deep with him. I can't really seem
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  Speaker 6: taking on Putin.
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  Speaker 2: Gee, I don't see any other way out of this,
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  Speaker 2: because Ukraine's not going to give in, and Europe's not
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  Speaker 2: going to let Ukraine give in, and Trump will be Oh,
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  Speaker 2: he look terrible. Meanwhile, Trump also promised to recal sorts
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  Speaker 2: of vengeance on Hamass if he didn't stop the war
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  Speaker 2: in Gaza, sent negotiators there that also has failed. That
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: war is still going on. But Israel has now been
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  Speaker 2: caught out lying about a convoy of ambulances in Gaza
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: shot up, killing fifteen paramedics emergency workers. It had said
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the convoy had acted suspiciously, emergency lights off, approaching Israeli
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: troops in a threatening manner. But now this video taken
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: from the camera that was on the body of one
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  Speaker 2: of the dead paramedics, showing that was clearly not true.
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  Speaker 2: The convoy had really been looking for a missing ambulance.
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  Speaker 1: Lights flashing, it had stopped.
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  Speaker 2: Before being shot, and the dead having their bodies buried
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: before exhumed by you and officials. Israel now says there
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: were six US operatives among them unarmed, but it's often
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  Speaker 2: no proof of that at all.
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  Speaker 1: How bad is this?
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  Speaker 6: This is a big blow to Israel's credibility and the
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  Speaker 6: credibility of the Israeli defense force. You know, there's that
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  Speaker 6: saying it's not the crime that gets you, it's the
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  Speaker 6: cover up. So the only way out of this is
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  Speaker 6: for Israel is a full open investigation and holding anyone
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: that's acted unlawfully to account. But this is a big
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  Speaker 6: reputational blower.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a shocker and it's just so appalling.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, Michael, new Zealand has just announced it will
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  Speaker 2: double it spending on defense. It's another nine billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: and it's cited the threat from China as a result,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, China is making enemies too. Just proves that
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  Speaker 2: we're really in a risky era. Now that said, double
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  Speaker 2: the New Zealand defense budget is still talking.
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  Speaker 1: Really pocket money. But what does this mean for Australia.
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  Speaker 6: Well, we're about to hear our two leaders have their
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  Speaker 6: first debate. Isn't it an indictment on Australia and defense
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  Speaker 6: policy here that the New Zealand government is acting with
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  Speaker 6: clarity and decision and we just aren't seeing that from
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  Speaker 6: either party here. Let's hope where positively surprised tonight, because
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  Speaker 6: doubling New Zealand's defense budget takes political will on a
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  Speaker 6: clear eight understanding of the growing threat and it comes
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  Speaker 6: at cost to where else they'd spend their money. That's
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  Speaker 6: what we need to see from the leaders of both
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  Speaker 6: these major parties tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I want to praise New Zealand too much, of course,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: because apparently doubling their budget still gets them to only
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: two percent of GDP, which is where we are, and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: that's still a long way short of the three to
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: five percent that's probably necessary given the security uncertainties right now,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Michael Schubridge.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Now, coming up after the break is the first Leader's
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: debate of this election. It'll be much watch TV. Let's
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: loan the drama about surrounding Peter Duntin right now and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: they'll be follow tomorrow here at the same time by
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: the debate between Treasurer Jim Chalmers and the oppositions Angus Taylor.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And then on Thursday twelve thirty, the energy debate Labors
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: disastrous Chris Bonus to emerge from hiding to debate the
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: coalition's energy spokesman Ted O'Brien. So every key moment of
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: this election is right here on Sky News. But first
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: the Leader's debate just after this very cunningly placed ad.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Good night,