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- 0:04Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Sam Irvin, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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- 0:38Speaker 2: It's showtime, folks.
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- 0:44Speaker 3: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Five more cooling in the containment chamber. Do your stint, James.
- 1:17Speaker 1: We have a movie meltdown.
- 1:21Speaker 2: You can't just blurt it out any time. It ruins
- 1:23Speaker 2: the effect.
- 1:24Speaker 4: What's up? Welcome to Movie Meltdown.
- 1:29Speaker 3: I'm Brian.
- 1:30Speaker 4: I'm Paul.
- 1:30Speaker 3: And I'm Gina.
- 1:38Speaker 2: And we're coming to you live, for real live, in
- 1:41Speaker 2: the real world. Look, we're infecting each other right now.
- 1:44Speaker 3: We're socially distanced.
- 1:45Speaker 2: I'm mostly five and a half feet away from you.
- 1:50Speaker 2: It's totally cool.
- 1:51Speaker 3: I've got short arms, I'm short.
- 1:53Speaker 2: I couldn't hit you easily. I might dodge and parry.
- 1:58Speaker 2: You could do that easily. From this distance. It's all good.
- 2:01Speaker 2: We're all good. So, we're readjusting to the world again.
- 2:07Speaker 2: Live via digital recording from Blue Jayway. So, we crossed
- 2:13Speaker 2: over in the interwebs. You guys were lucky enough to
- 2:17Speaker 2: be one of the people I checked to see if
- 2:19Speaker 2: you were still alive and or sane during our little
- 2:24Speaker 2: Zoom crossover period.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Sane.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Yeah, that's... That's arguable.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Alive, yes.
- 2:30Speaker 2: It's a bit of an experiment, this.
- 2:31Speaker 5: So we'll see how it goes in the next hour,
- 2:34Speaker 5: and you can decide for yourselves afterward if we are sane.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, it's weird.
- 2:39Speaker 2: I feel like we play that game every episode.
- 2:41Speaker 3: Well, yeah.
- 2:41Speaker 5: But it's especially more, you know, potent now.
- 2:44Speaker 3: I found it incredibly awkward because we have been kind
- 2:47Speaker 3: of holed up, and I've enjoyed it. Like, I'm a
- 2:51Speaker 3: natural social distancer.
- 2:53Speaker 2: No, really.
- 2:54Speaker 3: But.
- 2:56Speaker 3: It's weird to have to go out and do things
- 2:58Speaker 3: and interact with people because you find you either don't know, like,
- 3:02Speaker 3: you're an awkward teenager again and don't know what to do.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Or you're so desperate for human interaction that you're like,
- 3:09Speaker 3: look at me. Hi. Hi.
- 3:11Speaker 2: I got a haircut last, was that last week? I
- 3:15Speaker 2: don't know. I've lost all track of time.
- 3:16Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:17Speaker 2: I got a haircut.
- 3:19Speaker 3: On some day.
- 3:19Speaker 2: This guy. Some sort of dome.
- 3:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 3:22Speaker 1: My barber.
- 3:22Speaker 2: He got us a haircut. Yeah, I know.
- 3:23Speaker 1: It was weird.
- 3:24Speaker 5: But my barber, who I've known for years as a
- 3:28Speaker 5: friend before he was my barber, I didn't know how
- 3:32Speaker 5: to have a conversation with him in person. It was
- 3:35Speaker 5: just awkward and strange.
- 3:36Speaker 2: And I'm assuming you were wearing accessories, which, I mean,
- 3:40Speaker 2: that's what we need to do. I'm not going to
- 3:42Speaker 2: be one of the people that it's... I see so
- 3:46Speaker 2: many people and they're always old people. And I'm like,
- 3:48Speaker 2: you guys are the most at risk. What the hell
- 3:50Speaker 2: are you doing?
- 3:50Speaker 3: We're doing this for you.
- 3:53Speaker 2: And like, I don't even know how much it does
- 3:55Speaker 2: any good, but I don't give a shit. Like, just
- 3:58Speaker 2: do it. Like, it's just statistically you're better off if
- 4:01Speaker 2: you do it. So shut up and do it. You're
- 4:03Speaker 2: doing it for other people. Don't be an asshole. You're
- 4:05Speaker 2: doing it for other people.
- 4:05Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Don't be an asshole.
- 4:06Speaker 2: It's the polite thing to do.
- 4:07Speaker 3: I mean, you guys are dudes. You know, you always
- 4:10Speaker 3: put the seat back down because it's the polite thing
- 4:13Speaker 3: to do.
- 4:15Speaker 2: I'm glad you said the seat back. That's an important distinction.
- 4:19Speaker 3: No, the whole seat. Seat back and top. The whole seat.
- 4:21Speaker 3: The whole seat goes down.
- 4:22Speaker 2: That's exactly what I mean.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Because you're polite men and you're like.
- 4:26Speaker 2: See, now that becomes an issue usually within the couple world.
- 4:31Speaker 2: I fall into an entirely different category and have always
- 4:34Speaker 2: because I currently and have almost my entire life grown
- 4:38Speaker 2: up in an animal household. So there is no other option.
- 4:41Speaker 2: You leave the toilet seat up.
- 4:42Speaker 3: It's just a water bowl.
- 4:43Speaker 2: There's a dog drinking out of it or a cat
- 4:45Speaker 2: runs in there to jump on it and lands in it.
- 4:47Speaker 2: And then you have to clean up the cat grossness.
- 4:50Speaker 2: So yeah, you just keep it down because something horrible
- 4:53Speaker 2: is going to happen. So yeah, that's my reasoning.
- 4:55Speaker 3: However, the reasoning, it doesn't matter what the fear is.
- 4:59Speaker 3: It's the polite thing to do.
- 5:00Speaker 2: Also, yeah, we've created a community of some sort. This
- 5:03Speaker 2: is a social contract. Put the seat down. Put a
- 5:06Speaker 2: stupid mask on because we're supposed to do that. Just
- 5:08Speaker 2: shut up and do it.
- 5:09Speaker 3: I mean, you know what? So I've wondered for years
- 5:12Speaker 3: how long it would catch up before we had to
- 5:14Speaker 3: do that anyway during cold season. Because, I mean, like Japan,
- 5:18Speaker 3: everywhere has done that for years. Like, you think you
- 5:20Speaker 3: have a cold? Wear a mask.
- 5:22Speaker 2: It's not a big deal.
- 5:23Speaker 3: And it seems like it probably helps cut down on
- 5:27Speaker 3: some things.
- 5:28Speaker 2: In guinea pigs. And I always use this example because
- 5:30Speaker 2: I only want to picture guinea pigs wearing tiny little masks.
- 5:34Speaker 2: isn't that hilarious come on but within the example that
- 5:38Speaker 2: they did on the news the other day they had
- 5:40Speaker 2: infected guinea pigs and then non-infected and then the truth
- 5:44Speaker 2: is they didn't put tiny masks on them they just
- 5:46Speaker 2: put like a big sheet of that same material between
- 5:49Speaker 2: the cages and these didn't get sick so i'm like
- 5:52Speaker 2: okay so you've kind of proven a point scientifically blah
- 5:55Speaker 2: blah whatever it's.
- 5:56Speaker 3: Nice who cares you cover your face when you sneeze
- 5:58Speaker 3: so it's.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Not even airborne yet yet We should make this distinction.
- 6:04Speaker 2: We're all screwed.
- 6:05Speaker 5: If you're living somewhere where the closest person is five
- 6:08Speaker 5: miles from you, you probably don't need to wear a mask.
- 6:10Speaker 2: But if you're going somewhere where you're going to be
- 6:13Speaker 2: around other people, just be polite.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Just be polite. And besides, it's a new accessory.
- 6:18Speaker 2: Also, if you're listening to this in the future, this
- 6:22Speaker 2: is back when we didn't have to wear masks. Previously,
- 6:25Speaker 2: right before this. And when there were a lot of
- 6:28Speaker 2: humans on the planet, so it was an issue. I
- 6:30Speaker 2: know in your time, things are different. You six people
- 6:33Speaker 2: that are sitting in the future in a bunker somewhere
- 6:36Speaker 2: with nothing else to do but listen to old-timey podcasting. So, yeah.
- 6:43Speaker 2: You're listening to history right now.
- 6:44Speaker 3: Or if you've turned into the e-lawyer, the Morlock.
- 6:47Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:48Speaker 3: As we know, I constantly reference Time Machine.
- 6:50Speaker 2: I like where this conversation is headed. This should be
- 6:53Speaker 2: its own movie. Eloys are just going to be assholes
- 6:56Speaker 2: and they're not going to pay attention. The Morlocks are
- 6:58Speaker 2: going to need something to do because they're working all day.
- 7:00Speaker 2: So they'll have their earbuds in while they're working down
- 7:03Speaker 2: in the mines or whatever the hell it is they
- 7:05Speaker 2: have to do. Eating humans.
- 7:06Speaker 3: Eating humans.
- 7:07Speaker 2: And they're going to be listening. Eating Eloy. Providing for
- 7:12Speaker 2: the Eloy all day long. So if you've got to
- 7:14Speaker 2: pay the price.
- 7:15Speaker 3: To offer up an Eloy. I can't believe you're Team Morlock.
- 7:18Speaker 2: Hell yeah, because I've been a damn Morlock my whole life.
- 7:22Speaker 2: You're those fancy rich people that live up on the surface.
- 7:25Speaker 2: I'm down below ground where I was born.
- 7:29Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny to me. I'm sure if
- 7:32Speaker 3: anyone has listened or paid attention or cared anytime we've
- 7:35Speaker 3: done anything, I feel like I always make reference to
- 7:37Speaker 3: Time Machine. And I have since I like eighth grade.
- 7:41Speaker 3: I've been obsessed with Time Machine.
- 7:42Speaker 2: That's a great book. Paul, you're a brave man. He is. Well,
- 7:46Speaker 2: you know. You have not yet strangled her. That we're
- 7:49Speaker 2: aware of.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Also, this table is so clean because of Paul Muller.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Oh, very cool.
- 7:53Speaker 3: He's a good man.
- 7:55Speaker 2: Thank you for pointing that out. I appreciate that. I know.
- 7:58Speaker 3: It's a miracle. I don't know what you did to this.
- 8:02Speaker 2: I took a chisel. I appreciate your validation.
- 8:05Speaker 3: It's pretty awesome.
- 8:08Speaker 2: So, aside from the world and its weird state that
- 8:11Speaker 2: we're in, how's it going since last week? internet spoke
- 8:16Speaker 2: hmm well i don't know that you separate yourself from
- 8:22Speaker 2: all the other issues going.
- 8:23Speaker 3: On yeah i mean it's just which is hard to
- 8:25Speaker 3: do yeah i don't know if i can do that
- 8:27Speaker 3: yeah i mean well we have kind of just trucked
- 8:29Speaker 3: along outside of that in our same capacity.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Of yeah i mean we've been fairly fortunate Yeah.
- 8:39Speaker 5: That we haven't, you know, no one's lost a job or.
- 8:42Speaker 3: Which is pretty cool. Yeah. And we also have time
- 8:45Speaker 3: to watch weird things.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Ridiculous. Well, speak for yourself. Oh, my God.
- 8:52Speaker 3: So I have to admit, I did this to you
- 8:54Speaker 3: last night and I realized it. It's kind of a
- 8:56Speaker 3: funny thing.
- 8:57Speaker 1: Oh, boy. Oh, God.
- 8:58Speaker 2: Here we go.
- 8:58Speaker 3: We were scrolling through Netflix because Paul was like, well, God,
- 9:01Speaker 3: there's a ton of new stuff out. You know, we
- 9:03Speaker 3: could watch whatever. I mean.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Nothing that's been released recently since they shut down new movies.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Or things that have been released. Old things that they
- 9:10Speaker 2: keep putting on streaming services.
- 9:11Speaker 3: Yeah, or things that have been released new that are
- 9:14Speaker 3: just out there.
- 9:15Speaker 2: I've watched a few things in the last month or two.
- 9:18Speaker 3: I was literally like, no, no, no, not interested, no, move.
- 9:24Speaker 3: We just click through things.
- 9:27Speaker 2: I click through things, you say no. You're just talking
- 9:30Speaker 2: to a wall at this point, but fine.
- 9:32Speaker 3: Which is really uncool. But we did end up on.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Cowboys and Aliens.
- 9:39Speaker 3: The much maligned Cowboys and Aliens.
- 9:42Speaker 2: Now, see, she says that.
- 9:43Speaker 5: She says much maligned, but I don't know that that's
- 9:45Speaker 5: actually true. I think she maligned it.
- 9:47Speaker 2: At the time it was, it did not go over well.
- 9:51Speaker 2: I know that much.
- 9:52Speaker 3: I loved the comic book.
- 9:53Speaker 2: And I really enjoyed the movie. I like Cowboys and Aliens.
- 9:58Speaker 2: This is just cramming things together. I'm making a Reese
- 10:02Speaker 2: cup with my favorite subgenres.
- 10:04Speaker 3: I have not watched it because I heard such terrible
- 10:06Speaker 3: things about it that I assumed it was like Wild
- 10:10Speaker 3: Wild West, which I love because it is legitimately terrible,
- 10:17Speaker 3: and I love terrible movies.
- 10:18Speaker 5: I would also like to point out that the reason
- 10:21Speaker 5: that we both liked it is because it is very
- 10:25Speaker 5: much like Time Machine.
- 10:29Speaker 2: I know. Lord, you cannot escape it.
- 10:32Speaker 3: And the aliens are the Morlocks. Look how he brought
- 10:37Speaker 3: that full circle. I know.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Thank you. All right. Well, it's been a good time.
- 10:40Speaker 2: So we're wrapping it up. See you later. Bye.
- 10:42Speaker 3: No, but I was surprised because I really like, this is,
- 10:45Speaker 3: this is one of those things where I should not
- 10:48Speaker 3: have listened to everything that I heard about it and
- 10:50Speaker 3: everybody's complaints and just been like, I'm going to go
- 10:52Speaker 3: see it because I remember the comic book and I
- 10:54Speaker 3: thought it was great. And then I watched it and
- 10:57Speaker 3: I was like, this is really good. And we were
- 11:00Speaker 3: saying like the acting, whatever is adequate, but the editing
- 11:04Speaker 3: made that, all work. And it was actually better than
- 11:08Speaker 3: I thought. And I hate to talk about like dumb
- 11:10Speaker 3: old movies that nobody cares about, but you know, maybe
- 11:14Speaker 3: somebody should give it a chance.
- 11:15Speaker 2: This one ties to current things because I would almost
- 11:18Speaker 2: be more willing to give it a shot at this point.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Because as of recently, like I've always held this person in,
- 11:26Speaker 2: in decent esteem, but lately I'm just like, Oh no,
- 11:29Speaker 2: I think we're going to look back and like, one
- 11:32Speaker 2: of the handful of people that sort of created what
- 11:36Speaker 2: pop culture has become recently is Jon Favreau. Yeah.
- 11:39Speaker 3: Like you can look at, and that's the thing. Like
- 11:41Speaker 3: you look back and you're like, Jon Favreau? Really? And
- 11:45Speaker 3: so it's like, it's amazing to look back that far
- 11:49Speaker 3: and be like, there's a whole lot that he had
- 11:52Speaker 3: going on.
- 11:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Like even then and didn't.
- 11:54Speaker 2: I mean, there's definitely some misses and things I haven't
- 11:57Speaker 2: even watched, but I'm recently, because I've, rewatched the mandalorian
- 12:02Speaker 2: and then i'm watching that series that they did that's
- 12:04Speaker 2: the whole behind the scenes thing that's on disney plus
- 12:07Speaker 2: and like they're talking to him he's in every episode
- 12:09Speaker 2: he's like you know the overarching thing here is like
- 12:12Speaker 2: because it's all his doing so i'm listening to him
- 12:16Speaker 2: like talk about references to these old movies that you
- 12:20Speaker 2: know his old movie so he's like oh this is
- 12:22Speaker 2: how we did it i don't he might have worked
- 12:24Speaker 2: in a cowboys and aliens but like he definitely worked
- 12:26Speaker 2: well no i don't know if he worked in a
- 12:27Speaker 2: reference but like all of the recent technical stuff they're
- 12:31Speaker 2: doing he's been learning on the job forever so he's
- 12:34Speaker 2: just going well when we did jungle book we did
- 12:37Speaker 2: it this way and this is how we shot it
- 12:39Speaker 2: so like he's using it which i was not overly
- 12:42Speaker 2: excited by going to watch the new jungle book so
- 12:45Speaker 2: i didn't but now i'm kind of like well again
- 12:48Speaker 2: like i respect him enough what he's doing i kind
- 12:51Speaker 2: of feel like now i want to go back and
- 12:52Speaker 2: give it.
- 12:53Speaker 5: A shot that's an interesting take i i feel kind
- 12:56Speaker 5: of the same way maybe i should revisit Any of
- 12:59Speaker 5: the stuff that he's done.
- 13:00Speaker 2: I mean, that I've missed. You know, some of the
- 13:03Speaker 2: stuff you don't even realize. Oh, that's John Favreau. I mean,
- 13:06Speaker 2: I knew Zathura. But other than that, like, some of
- 13:09Speaker 2: the other ones in the middle, I was like, oh, yeah,
- 13:11Speaker 2: he did do that, too, didn't he? So, yeah, I guess.
- 13:14Speaker 2: But as time's gone on and, like, we watch how, like, this...
- 13:19Speaker 2: This arc of Marvel movies that changed the world and
- 13:23Speaker 2: entertainment as a whole could not have existed without Jon Favreau.
- 13:28Speaker 2: Would not have come together like it did without Jon. Now, granted,
- 13:30Speaker 2: he's not the only one, but it started with him.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Nothing would have come together without him. And now looking
- 13:36Speaker 2: at The Mandalorian, which like not only has become super popular,
- 13:41Speaker 2: but watching the way they're shooting this in this behind
- 13:43Speaker 2: the scenes thing is like, groundbreaking stuff. Like, they're doing
- 13:47Speaker 2: things that Lucas would have been doing 30, 40 years ago.
- 13:50Speaker 2: You know, he's pushing the envelope that same way that
- 13:53Speaker 2: George Lucas did. So now I'm looking at, like, the
- 13:56Speaker 2: way that we look back in the late 70s, early
- 13:59Speaker 2: 80s about George Lucas and all these other filmmakers. I'm like,
- 14:02Speaker 2: you know, when we get ahead a little bit, Jon
- 14:05Speaker 2: Favreau is going to be that for now. And I
- 14:08Speaker 2: don't think people realize that. Most of them don't realize that.
- 14:10Speaker 3: You know, and I didn't even realize until you said that.
- 14:12Speaker 3: It made me think that there's like visual uh similarities
- 14:18Speaker 3: between cowboys and aliens and the mandalorian actually in the
- 14:22Speaker 3: way it's filmed like that's pretty.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Interesting except they probably went outside for cowboys and aliens
- 14:28Speaker 2: well yeah that's the amazing part like watching that behind
- 14:31Speaker 2: the scenes like they're shooting all of that inside like
- 14:35Speaker 2: and so much of the mandalorian is like these huge
- 14:39Speaker 2: like Desert scapes and all of that is in a dome, essentially,
- 14:45Speaker 2: covered in LED screens. And it works. And it looks amazing.
- 14:49Speaker 2: And it doesn't look like bad green screen used to.
- 14:52Speaker 2: It's become a whole new technology that he's just surfing
- 14:57Speaker 2: that wave at this point.
- 14:57Speaker 3: I cannot imagine how it would feel to act in that.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Watching that's amazing. Watching when you're sitting in front of
- 15:04Speaker 2: the big screen and the giant creature that they're riding
- 15:07Speaker 2: on is actually just like a hump that stops at
- 15:09Speaker 2: the bottom of your thighs and is just rocked back
- 15:11Speaker 2: and forth by some grips or whatever. It's just like
- 15:13Speaker 2: it's weird that you can still deliver a good performance.
- 15:17Speaker 5: That's how you know you're dealing with a real actor
- 15:19Speaker 5: and not somebody that just shows up.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Also, that's very like the old ILM. Just these weird
- 15:27Speaker 3: puppet puppets. things and now there's better.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Yeah making it work yeah yeah.
- 15:35Speaker 3: Interesting yeah so that was.
- 15:36Speaker 2: A kind of cool cowboys and aliens.
- 15:38Speaker 3: That we did not expect to talk about because we
- 15:41Speaker 3: just watched it last night for like because everything else
- 15:44Speaker 3: i passed and said no no no no this is i.
- 15:48Speaker 2: We had this come up recently in this current weird
- 15:52Speaker 2: state that we're in do you occasionally find yourself when
- 15:56Speaker 2: you in the All right.
- 16:00Speaker 6: Yes.
- 16:01Speaker 2: Yeah, we did. And how has that worked out for you?
- 16:03Speaker 2: I tell you. Can I tell this story? Yeah, absolutely.
- 16:08Speaker 2: So we, on Hulu, because.
- 16:12Speaker 5: You know, I'm just browsing for whatever, because I reinstated
- 16:16Speaker 5: my Hulu subscription.
- 16:18Speaker 2: Not that you need to know that. Why do we
- 16:19Speaker 2: do that?
- 16:19Speaker 3: But I can't remember why.
- 16:20Speaker 2: Probably because you had nowhere to go. No, there was
- 16:23Speaker 2: something like... There was something in particular. Yes, I'll take
- 16:26Speaker 2: all the subscriptions. All streaming.
- 16:27Speaker 3: Show me all the things all the time.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Okay.
- 16:30Speaker 3: In a very like clockwork orange scenario with my eyes
- 16:33Speaker 3: like fried open.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Turn on more. Turn them on.
- 16:39Speaker 5: I can't remember why, but that's irrelevant. But anyway, so
- 16:42Speaker 5: it was that scenario and we came across The Great
- 16:46Speaker 5: on Hulu, which is about Catherine the Great.
- 16:49Speaker 2: It's a series. All right. And I can't remember the
- 16:52Speaker 2: other actor's name that.
- 16:55Speaker 3: Dakota no the other guy oh no uh nicholas.
- 17:01Speaker 6: Holt yes okay thank you um but beast you know
- 17:05Speaker 6: so i took a chance and i was like oh
- 17:07Speaker 6: well you know it looked interesting but i wasn't i
- 17:11Speaker 6: was like oh this is a comedy right i hope so.
- 17:16Speaker 3: We'll see it is not the office.
- 17:18Speaker 2: We watched one episode i was like Okay. Kept going.
- 17:21Speaker 2: And like two or three episodes in.
- 17:24Speaker 5: I was like, oh my God, this is freaking brilliant.
- 17:28Speaker 2: And I had to keep going.
- 17:29Speaker 5: And I'm not sure still if it's a comedy or
- 17:32Speaker 5: a tragedy.
- 17:33Speaker 3: It's pretty dark, but it's funny.
- 17:35Speaker 2: But it's really good. She's amazing in it. And it
- 17:37Speaker 2: was really well done.
- 17:39Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 17:39Speaker 5: So The Great, about Catherine the Great. And of course,
- 17:43Speaker 5: you have to be open to very vulgar.
- 17:47Speaker 3: My aunt wouldn't watch it. Yes.
- 17:49Speaker 2: We would not say vulgar things on this show. Obviously.
- 17:53Speaker 2: Certain people would not find it appropriate.
- 17:56Speaker 3: It's not graphic, but it's very raunchy.
- 17:58Speaker 2: No, it's not, but it's raunchy.
- 17:59Speaker 3: For lack of a, like a 1970s term. That's so raunchy.
- 18:03Speaker 2: The situations are.
- 18:05Speaker 3: Grandma said that was raunchy.
- 18:07Speaker 2: You know, raunchy.
- 18:11Speaker 5: But that, you know notwithstanding it's actually very well written
- 18:16Speaker 5: very well acted yeah it's got a great cast yeah
- 18:20Speaker 5: i mean really really well done and i was just
- 18:22Speaker 5: totally blown away and it was a complete accident just.
- 18:25Speaker 3: And on the other hand we started watching uh on
- 18:28Speaker 3: a recommendation which i think that we just caught it
- 18:31Speaker 3: the wrong time in the pandemic but the gift is
- 18:34Speaker 3: that what that's called the turkish i've oh.
- 18:37Speaker 5: Maybe not Right, because there's a new movie that also
- 18:40Speaker 5: has that title. The Turkish series called The Gift started it.
- 18:45Speaker 5: It's about a painter, a woman, who she has a...
- 18:52Speaker 5: She's always painting this same symbol, and it's a theme
- 18:57Speaker 5: in all of her paintings. Anyway, fast forward, she discovers
- 19:02Speaker 5: that in the excavations at.
- 19:07Speaker 2: Gobekli Tepe. Gobekli Tepe. It's not a real word. I
- 19:11Speaker 2: knew I was going to trip over that name.
- 19:13Speaker 5: In Turkey, the archaeological site, which is like the oldest
- 19:16Speaker 5: archaeological site known today, which is like 11,000 years old.
- 19:21Speaker 5: It's got to be older.
- 19:24Speaker 2: No offense, it's older.
- 19:26Speaker 5: That they find this symbol there and there's some sort
- 19:30Speaker 5: of weird psychic link between this woman and Whatever.
- 19:35Speaker 3: Which I thought we would love because that's essentially full-court.
- 19:39Speaker 3: But for some reason, we just have not been able
- 19:41Speaker 3: to get into.
- 19:42Speaker 5: I stopped after the fifth episode and i.
- 19:46Speaker 3: Gave up to me and i think that that they're
- 19:48Speaker 3: acting is great but they also have like not just
- 19:52Speaker 3: uh subtitles it's overdubbed so you kind of get distracted
- 19:57Speaker 3: by that i always get distracted by like things that
- 19:59Speaker 3: are yeah and i'm watching their lips and i'm like
- 20:02Speaker 3: and then.
- 20:02Speaker 2: I went the other way i want everything dubbed well
- 20:05Speaker 2: even in my language let's redub it again like if you.
- 20:08Speaker 3: Could walk around with a led of like.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Yeah this is the actual subtext of what i'm saying
- 20:14Speaker 2: This is more or less what I mean. I hate
- 20:15Speaker 2: this show.
- 20:16Speaker 4: No.
- 20:17Speaker 5: I think where it failed for me, and not everybody's
- 20:21Speaker 5: going to have this experience, but it felt like it
- 20:23Speaker 5: was using all the same tools that a soap opera
- 20:27Speaker 5: would use.
- 20:28Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't say that to me. Sorry, go ahead.
- 20:31Speaker 5: They kept upping the drama for no good reason in
- 20:35Speaker 5: some instances. It was just one thing after the other, like, oh.
- 20:39Speaker 2: What happened? And then that happened? How's that even possible?
- 20:42Speaker 2: Sometimes that, I mean, that is like its own art form, really.
- 20:46Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 20:46Speaker 2: And that's what I've come to realize. There's not, like,
- 20:49Speaker 2: it usually gets thrown out as a negative, something like melodrama.
- 20:53Speaker 2: But I'm like, if you know how to work melodrama, like,
- 20:55Speaker 2: it is its own art form. Yeah, but see, here's
- 20:57Speaker 2: the thing. It can be amazing.
- 20:59Speaker 3: When you say that, I think of X-Files. And there
- 21:02Speaker 3: was something else you were going to watch.
- 21:03Speaker 2: No, that's actually right.
- 21:04Speaker 3: Oh, no, X-Files, you fooled me once.
- 21:07Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 21:08Speaker 3: I bought into that and went all in.
- 21:10Speaker 2: Trust no one.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Yeah, not even X-Files or Chris Carter.
- 21:14Speaker 2: That's the rule. If he's taught us anything.
- 21:17Speaker 3: I don't know, but there's been a variety of things
- 21:18Speaker 3: like that. I mean, Lost was kind of the same.
- 21:22Speaker 3: But so many things like that, yet the subject of
- 21:25Speaker 3: this appealed to me because I was like, well, Gobekli Tepe, yes. Volkor, yes.
- 21:30Speaker 3: So it's got a little more room. Which reminds me,
- 21:33Speaker 3: my cousin worked on this show in Israel called... Oh
- 21:38Speaker 3: my God, what was it? Danny Hollywood?
- 21:40Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
- 21:41Speaker 3: And it was like a 60s musical, but set in
- 21:46Speaker 3: like modern Tel Aviv, I guess. I mean, but I think,
- 21:50Speaker 3: you know.
- 21:51Speaker 2: Well, no. I mean, it was... So, Tel Aviv.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like a 60s story.
- 22:00Speaker 5: It was the 70s, but it was two decades back
- 22:04Speaker 5: by American standards.
- 22:05Speaker 2: So... They were like greasers and... No, no, no, no.
- 22:08Speaker 3: It was like mods. They were like mods. It was
- 22:11Speaker 3: 60s British. And then it was made in like, what,
- 22:14Speaker 3: the aughts? The early aughts?
- 22:15Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 22:16Speaker 3: So anyway, I just think it's so fascinating because there's
- 22:18Speaker 3: this whole world of like awesome television that we don't
- 22:22Speaker 3: even get to see. That's true. Danny Hollywood, that was
- 22:26Speaker 3: the name of it.
- 22:26Speaker 2: It was awesome.
- 22:27Speaker 3: From what I saw, I was like, my God, I
- 22:29Speaker 3: love this show. So I can only imagine what we're
- 22:31Speaker 3: missing from Turkey or India or.
- 22:34Speaker 2: As long as I don't have to read anything, I'm fine.
- 22:36Speaker 2: Overdubbing for everything.
- 22:38Speaker 3: But the sets were amazing because we went to the
- 22:40Speaker 3: sets and it was decked out in these perfect 60s.
- 22:43Speaker 2: Well, you went to the sets.
- 22:45Speaker 3: Were you not with me then? No.
- 22:50Speaker 5: There was another movie that we watched that we both
- 22:55Speaker 5: took a chance on and we both totally fell in
- 22:59Speaker 5: love with it. It was nothing like The show we just.
- 23:04Speaker 1: The Gift?
- 23:04Speaker 2: The Gift. It was nothing like The Gift. It was
- 23:07Speaker 2: called Midsommar.
- 23:08Speaker 3: No, we talked about this, didn't we? We did.
- 23:10Speaker 2: Did we talk about it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We
- 23:13Speaker 2: talked about it. Well, never mind then. I retract that.
- 23:18Speaker 2: You're still scarred by it is what we've... Well, it
- 23:20Speaker 2: was fantastic.
- 23:21Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it was pretty indicative of how
- 23:23Speaker 3: much it touched you that.
- 23:24Speaker 2: You're still like, oh my God. Yeah, a testament to
- 23:26Speaker 2: how great the movie was. I still am thinking about it.
- 23:29Speaker 3: You know what I still think about?
- 23:30Speaker 5: And I think about... The Candidate album, Duada.
- 23:39Speaker 3: Yes, we found this. There's a band.
- 23:42Speaker 5: An obscure UK band from 2002 released an album that
- 23:47Speaker 5: was essentially an alternate soundtrack to the original Wicker Man.
- 23:54Speaker 3: Yes, our jam.
- 23:57Speaker 2: I mean, you have to appreciate that level of dedication.
- 23:59Speaker 2: Christopher Lee Wicker Man.
- 24:01Speaker 3: The band are ours because we're.
- 24:03Speaker 2: All in for that. No, not your insanity. Any band
- 24:06Speaker 2: that takes it upon. Because, again, we had guests on
- 24:10Speaker 2: years ago that did their own. They were from this town.
- 24:13Speaker 2: And they put together their own alternate and or just
- 24:17Speaker 2: a reimagining of a soundtrack for RoboCop. And then they actually,
- 24:23Speaker 2: I don't know how many times they ended up doing it,
- 24:25Speaker 2: but eventually they did a live version where they rented
- 24:28Speaker 2: out the theater, played RoboCop, and there's not really any
- 24:31Speaker 2: way to take the original soundtrack out. So basically they
- 24:36Speaker 2: just have to drop the volume down. So you're just
- 24:38Speaker 2: kind of listening to them play and watching the visuals
- 24:41Speaker 2: of RoboCop. I think that is phenomenal.
- 24:43Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 24:44Speaker 2: Anybody who's that dedicated, more power to you. That's impressive.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 24:49Speaker 2: It's a great album.
- 24:49Speaker 1: Absolutely.
- 24:50Speaker 3: It's my favorite of their albums. I've listened to the
- 24:52Speaker 3: other ones and have them, but that one is fantastic.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Yeah, so anyway.
- 24:59Speaker 3: What about you? What's your?
- 25:00Speaker 2: I figured that'll ease us in, and then we probably
- 25:05Speaker 2: should get to our task at hand that we assigned ourselves.
- 25:08Speaker 3: I don't even know if I really did much research
- 25:11Speaker 3: on this.
- 25:11Speaker 2: I think that's why, and normally I would just show
- 25:14Speaker 2: up and turn on the mics and not bother with
- 25:17Speaker 2: having some sort of internet connection but i specifically for
- 25:21Speaker 2: you not sitting here brought the computer because i knew
- 25:24Speaker 2: as soon as we started this project grandma's gonna be like.
- 25:27Speaker 3: What's the one guy with he's the kid with.
- 25:31Speaker 2: The hair and i'm like he's the guy he's got
- 25:33Speaker 2: two arms and two legs.
- 25:35Speaker 5: I just immediately what are we talking about started loading
- 25:38Speaker 5: up the computer i was like i'm gonna need this
- 25:40Speaker 5: saying i didn't.
- 25:42Speaker 3: Necessarily prepare for this Because we're shocked. I told you,
- 25:46Speaker 3: I read it to you. We were supposed to be
- 25:47Speaker 3: talking about recasting. That's how we got on the whole
- 25:50Speaker 3: Rick and Morty conversation. Oh, that.
- 25:52Speaker 2: That, yes.
- 25:53Speaker 3: Grandpa!
- 25:55Speaker 5: You guys were talking in like, you know, weird.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Weird code, yeah. I guess we should start. I think
- 26:04Speaker 2: our initial win in our previous conversation via the Zoom
- 26:07Speaker 2: world was somehow, and this is any conversation we ever have,
- 26:12Speaker 2: we have to start with somehow we got on. That's
- 26:14Speaker 2: our intro for everything. Battle of the Planets.
- 26:18Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
- 26:19Speaker 2: And then you were somehow taken down a road of like,
- 26:23Speaker 2: what if we made a movie? Which then I also
- 26:26Speaker 2: found out they kind of did, but that doesn't count.
- 26:28Speaker 3: Well, so wait a minute. It's funny you would bring
- 26:30Speaker 3: that up because last night, one of the things that
- 26:32Speaker 3: I was like, no, about was something that was like, oh,
- 26:37Speaker 3: because it was through the dudes who do the thing.
- 26:43Speaker 2: Tell us more, Grandma.
- 26:44Speaker 3: Yeah. In Nashville.
- 26:47Speaker 2: What?
- 26:48Speaker 3: The guys that talk about movies in Nashville. Oh.
- 26:52Speaker 2: It's Mystery Science Theater 3000. Yes! It's sad that I'm
- 26:55Speaker 2: decoding your insanity. Riff track. You speak China.
- 27:01Speaker 3: I like that you brought the computer because I go
- 27:03Speaker 3: with the guy with the thing.
- 27:04Speaker 2: So anyway. As soon as we start naming people, you're
- 27:07Speaker 2: going to be like, what was he in? And I'm
- 27:09Speaker 2: going to have to look it up.
- 27:11Speaker 3: So the riff track, there was a riff tracks and
- 27:13Speaker 3: it was like a live action and like claymation animatronic
- 27:18Speaker 3: thing combined with something that looked like Battle of the Planets.
- 27:22Speaker 3: And I said to Paul, oh my God, I knew
- 27:24Speaker 3: that as Battle of the Planets.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Battle of the Planets never did that.
- 27:29Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, they didn't. But the animation, it
- 27:32Speaker 3: was the same. There was like Mark, Luke, Princess, Keop.
- 27:36Speaker 2: There was no Tiny.
- 27:36Speaker 3: Tiny, there was a Tiny. I saw Tiny.
- 27:38Speaker 2: I just saw Jason.
- 27:40Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm talking about? Mark, Jason, yeah.
- 27:44Speaker 2: I think you threw in a Bible instead of a
- 27:48Speaker 2: Star Wars. Matthew, there was a Matthew.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Mark, Luke, John.
- 27:52Speaker 2: And a Jebediah. And a Booker. They were baptizing people.
- 27:57Speaker 2: What kind of cartoon is this?
- 28:00Speaker 3: I did grow up Catholic. And we had the Catholic Bible,
- 28:04Speaker 3: which we never read. And there's all kinds of crazy-ass books.
- 28:08Speaker 3: When you hear Baptists quote things, there's all kinds of like,
- 28:12Speaker 3: the book of.
- 28:13Speaker 2: Jim and I.
- 28:14Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like... And you're like, what is that?
- 28:18Speaker 3: I don't even know what those are. Anyway, so are
- 28:21Speaker 3: you doing casting for this?
- 28:23Speaker 2: What would you do? That's pretty much what you ask,
- 28:26Speaker 2: and then I had to specifically make a note of
- 28:29Speaker 2: because I knew by the time we came back and
- 28:30Speaker 2: sat down again, you would not at all remember. So
- 28:33Speaker 2: I did, as we were talking last time, I made notes.
- 28:37Speaker 2: There are two separate things we assigned ourselves. So we're
- 28:40Speaker 2: going to start with this one.
- 28:41Speaker 3: I'm glad that you know I am a walking non sequitur.
- 28:46Speaker 2: Nonsensical? Wait a minute. What was our task? We're going to...
- 28:52Speaker 2: examined the idea. And then that's the thing. The more
- 28:54Speaker 2: I got into it, I was like, well, with both
- 28:57Speaker 2: of these things we threw out there, I was like,
- 28:59Speaker 2: there's also different ways we could do it. So if
- 29:02Speaker 2: we're going to make a live action Battle of the
- 29:04Speaker 2: Planets movie, who's going to be in it?
- 29:07Speaker 3: Okay, so if you're going to do like a big
- 29:08Speaker 3: Hollywood budget thing, you've got Tom Cruise.
- 29:14Speaker 2: Okay, see, this is how I knew I was going to,
- 29:17Speaker 2: that's the other reason I had to get the internet
- 29:19Speaker 2: involved because I'm like, To do it right, these are
- 29:23Speaker 2: a bunch of kids. You're going to have to cast
- 29:25Speaker 2: a bunch of kids. I bet a bunch of old
- 29:27Speaker 2: people sitting there aren't going to know any young actors.
- 29:29Speaker 2: So you're probably going to say old people like Tom
- 29:31Speaker 2: Cruise is playing this 25-year-old dude that's leading our team
- 29:35Speaker 2: of teenagers.
- 29:36Speaker 3: But that's because he always tries to pass himself.
- 29:38Speaker 2: He ain't 25. I know. But wait.
- 29:41Speaker 3: Wait for the rest.
- 29:42Speaker 2: Tom Cruise.
- 29:44Speaker 3: Ben Affleck.
- 29:47Speaker 2: You're just putting together Armageddon 2 at this point.
- 29:51Speaker 3: Well, Scarlett Johansson as Princess.
- 29:54Speaker 2: I mean, I like her in anything.
- 29:56Speaker 3: I'm just doing the generic, like, Jack Black is tiny.
- 30:01Speaker 3: Jack Black is tiny.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Oh, God. That's actually pretty accurate.
- 30:05Speaker 3: I've seen Jack Black or Seth Rogen.
- 30:07Speaker 2: Okay.
- 30:08Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing the old person.
- 30:09Speaker 2: Seth Rogen would be a great tiny.
- 30:12Speaker 3: The old guy casting, right? This is my like.
- 30:16Speaker 2: That's what I figured, which is why I tried to
- 30:18Speaker 2: look for nothing but people who are actually appropriate. I'll
- 30:21Speaker 2: be on your casting couch later. I don't think we're
- 30:26Speaker 2: approving you, though. I mean, you can go ahead and
- 30:28Speaker 2: do what you need to do. Okay, okay.
- 30:30Speaker 3: So here's the problem. This is where the disconnect comes in.
- 30:32Speaker 3: And I've mentioned, like, I don't get things.
- 30:37Speaker 2: I can't... What the hell are you saying?
- 30:39Speaker 3: Like, I don't know. I liked What's-His-Face as Han Solo.
- 30:43Speaker 3: I think he did a pretty good job.
- 30:45Speaker 2: I actually think What's-His-Face, that nobody can remember his name.
- 30:48Speaker 3: What is his name?
- 30:49Speaker 2: Harrison Ford? It's too complicated. That's his problem. He should
- 30:52Speaker 2: have named himself, like... Jimmy Smith. Oh, the new solo.
- 30:56Speaker 3: It's like Hans Molman, but it's not. That's a Simpsons character. God,
- 31:01Speaker 3: what is his name?
- 31:01Speaker 2: You have a computer right at your... This is why
- 31:04Speaker 2: I brought the computer.
- 31:06Speaker 3: It's not.
- 31:06Speaker 2: It's Aaron.
- 31:07Speaker 3: I don't know. No, it's not Ansel Egort, is it?
- 31:12Speaker 2: No.
- 31:13Speaker 3: If that's even how you pronounce that.
- 31:15Speaker 2: Alden Aaron Rick.
- 31:17Speaker 3: That guy! He's awesome!
- 31:19Speaker 2: He's pretty good.
- 31:20Speaker 3: He's a good guy. What else has he been in?
- 31:23Speaker 3: I know I've seen him in other things.
- 31:24Speaker 2: He's actually really good in that Coen Brothers movie, Hail Caesar. Yes.
- 31:30Speaker 3: Okay, so I get him in that confused with Paul Dano,
- 31:34Speaker 3: who I love and I think is a great, and
- 31:37Speaker 3: he's not even a young actor anymore. But Ansel Agard,
- 31:40Speaker 3: I thought, did a fantastic job. Right, they're not. They're
- 31:43Speaker 3: like my nieces and nephews would know, and I'm like,
- 31:46Speaker 3: what's that? What's up, BTS? And that's probably a totally
- 31:51Speaker 3: old reference anyway. That's the oldest K-pop band ever. So
- 31:58Speaker 3: I would cast somebody like that, right? Or this goes
- 32:01Speaker 3: to the Tom Hiddleston conversation where I'm like, I don't.
- 32:04Speaker 2: Get Tom Hiddleston. You brought this up and I told
- 32:06Speaker 2: you to save it for the show. So go ahead
- 32:08Speaker 2: and explain it to people.
- 32:10Speaker 3: I don't know. I just don't understand the current pretty boy.
- 32:14Speaker 2: current as in 10 years ago when they cast Tom
- 32:17Speaker 2: Hiddleston to be in that role of Loki and.
- 32:18Speaker 3: I don't understand Tom Hiddleston in that role it's like
- 32:21Speaker 3: the exact same thing they did with Legolas right like
- 32:25Speaker 3: he's a blonde guy or he has darker hair and
- 32:27Speaker 3: they cast him as a platinum blonde elf and I don't.
- 32:32Speaker 2: Get it Diego Luna should be Jason.
- 32:38Speaker 3: But he's old too I mean these are old people
- 32:40Speaker 3: we're talking about I love Diego Luna but we're talking
- 32:42Speaker 3: about old people He's not that old. He's pretty old. Like,
- 32:46Speaker 3: that's not who you would cast as like a modern.
- 32:49Speaker 2: I would cast him.
- 32:50Speaker 3: I know, but we're old.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's just because of that casting couch thing
- 32:53Speaker 2: you were talking about.
- 32:54Speaker 1: I know.
- 32:55Speaker 2: That's true. Diego Luna. If I could get in there.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Get over here. On a casting couch, boy.
- 32:59Speaker 3: I like him.
- 33:00Speaker 2: He's a good actor. You're a hired boy. So, I
- 33:03Speaker 2: went through.
- 33:03Speaker 5: Well, I don't know any actors that are in their.
- 33:06Speaker 2: And that's the thing.
- 33:07Speaker 3: 20s?
- 33:07Speaker 2: But that's why I wanted to at least have... That
- 33:10Speaker 2: was the only, like, sort of looking into it that
- 33:13Speaker 2: I did, because I figure... Any random old people we're
- 33:16Speaker 2: going to throw out there anyway because that's what we do.
- 33:20Speaker 5: But I would like to point out that all of
- 33:22Speaker 5: the cast of Friends were at least 10 years older
- 33:25Speaker 5: than what they were portraying.
- 33:26Speaker 2: That's always been the case. And that's even looking at this,
- 33:28Speaker 2: I found all these people that are like on younger
- 33:31Speaker 2: shows and stuff now. And I'm like, oh, yeah, them.
- 33:34Speaker 2: That would be, oh, shit, they're 27? Like, why are
- 33:36Speaker 2: they in high school on TV? Right, right. So that's
- 33:38Speaker 2: always been the case. Everybody on 90210 was 30. You know,
- 33:40Speaker 2: what are you going to do? So, it's like that.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Melrose Place was the closest thing to, you know. But
- 33:48Speaker 2: at least they were supposed to be mid-20s.
- 33:50Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 33:51Speaker 2: Even though they were probably mid-30s playing it.
- 33:53Speaker 3: But I do, I mean, I think it's funny to
- 33:55Speaker 3: play the old, old school casting game. Because you know that, like, that's.
- 33:59Speaker 3: That's what somebody sees as the moneymaker. That's a sure hit.
- 34:03Speaker 3: And that's why so many things go so wrong because
- 34:05Speaker 3: people are like, that's Tom Cruise.
- 34:06Speaker 2: But we put all the names in it that people like.
- 34:09Speaker 3: It's got the right names.
- 34:10Speaker 2: Well, they're the wrong roles for those names, but all right.
- 34:13Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
- 34:14Speaker 3: People will pay to see Tom Cruise play Van Affleck
- 34:20Speaker 3: in Tropic Thunder.
- 34:22Speaker 2: That's what they thought.
- 34:24Speaker 3: Which is funny because Tom Cruise was in Tropic Thunder.
- 34:26Speaker 2: I didn't see him. What are you talking about? Nobody
- 34:28Speaker 2: that looked like Tom Cruise was in that movie.
- 34:31Speaker 3: What are you looking up? You looking up your casting
- 34:34Speaker 3: couch of.
- 34:37Speaker 2: People to put on my couch.
- 34:38Speaker 3: Well, so you got Diego Rivera and.
- 34:41Speaker 2: Diego Luna.
- 34:42Speaker 3: Diego Luna. And the other guy from Game of Thrones.
- 34:48Speaker 2: So, Heather Locklear... In Melrose Place. Cutting edge casting of
- 34:54Speaker 2: Heather Locklear. I really thought that's where you're going. I
- 34:58Speaker 2: was like, wow, you went deep. Well, no, I just, I.
- 35:01Speaker 5: Had to like fact check myself because when Melrose Place
- 35:05Speaker 5: came out, she was 30.
- 35:07Speaker 2: Well, no, it was like literally on Beverly Hills 90210, Andrea,
- 35:13Speaker 2: I think the first season was 29. The first season
- 35:17Speaker 2: when she was playing a high schooler, she was 29
- 35:20Speaker 2: years old. Now, granted... Points to her. She obviously looked
- 35:23Speaker 2: pretty damn good.
- 35:23Speaker 3: She did look young.
- 35:24Speaker 2: And still holds up as president of the Academy.
- 35:26Speaker 3: Oh, is that?
- 35:27Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. I know she was, I think. She,
- 35:30Speaker 2: I think, was president of the Academy of Arts and
- 35:33Speaker 2: Sciences and all of those things. Good for her being
- 35:36Speaker 2: active in her community. Again, looks good and running Hollywood.
- 35:40Speaker 2: Probably not casting these people we're going to discuss.
- 35:43Speaker 3: So wait a minute.
- 35:44Speaker 2: Not nice.
- 35:44Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, also, we're not quite as
- 35:48Speaker 3: old as we sound. But we have a knowledge of like,
- 35:53Speaker 3: I mean, I know about things in movies that I
- 35:56Speaker 3: had no reference to as like a functioning human. I
- 36:01Speaker 3: was like, you know, not born or like a slug.
- 36:06Speaker 2: But that makes you a little different because not, I
- 36:10Speaker 2: won't say not everybody, most people don't fall into that.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Most regular people, which is the term with these bunny
- 36:16Speaker 2: ears that I used All of the time on this
- 36:19Speaker 2: show because I run into people in the regular world
- 36:22Speaker 2: all the time and I don't discuss this stuff at
- 36:25Speaker 2: all because they don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
- 36:27Speaker 2: They don't even want to discuss the things I'm talking about. So, like,
- 36:30Speaker 2: I've started to, like, keep notes almost of the things
- 36:34Speaker 2: that they're into enough to at least have a conversation.
- 36:39Speaker 2: So that's why I don't force my geekiness on anyone
- 36:42Speaker 2: at this point. Like, I try to gauge... Everybody, and
- 36:45Speaker 2: then be like, oh, well, I can have this middle-level,
- 36:48Speaker 2: mid-range discussion. It's all relative, though.
- 36:52Speaker 5: I mean, I'm the same age as Mel Brooks, and
- 36:55Speaker 5: I can have a conversation about all of it.
- 36:58Speaker 2: You look pretty good. That's why we're recording this through
- 37:01Speaker 2: this screen door here. Go home! Go home! You're going
- 37:05Speaker 2: to kill Dick Van Dyke and proper writer. Good to
- 37:08Speaker 2: see you. Go away. Go write another zombie book.
- 37:13Speaker 3: So, you know, if I could pick. Okay, so let's
- 37:17Speaker 3: talk about recasting things. And this makes me sound way
- 37:20Speaker 3: older than I am. But there's something to this. Hang on.
- 37:22Speaker 2: Are we talking about Battle of the Planets? Are we
- 37:24Speaker 2: back to Battle of the Planets?
- 37:26Speaker 3: No, no, no. We're going way back.
- 37:28Speaker 2: Okay.
- 37:29Speaker 3: And this kind of is more of an explanation of
- 37:32Speaker 3: weird old things that I love that were happening way
- 37:35Speaker 3: before I was born. Green Acres. Like, Green Acres, you
- 37:39Speaker 3: could remake that today in so many different ways.
- 37:42Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 37:43Speaker 2: Does anybody need to? I mean, don't get me wrong.
- 37:45Speaker 2: I like Green Acres more than most people, but.
- 37:47Speaker 3: Do you? Do you? Does your house have a four people?
- 37:50Speaker 2: I watch it quite often. It's constantly playing on MeTV,
- 37:55Speaker 2: which is about the only thing on my television most
- 37:57Speaker 2: of the time.
- 37:58Speaker 3: But it's weird. I mean, you could remake that in
- 38:00Speaker 3: an interesting kind of way.
- 38:02Speaker 2: I think now you'd have to take it because this
- 38:05Speaker 2: is the promo they ran the other day. because Green
- 38:08Speaker 2: Acres was on within the same time frame and or
- 38:11Speaker 2: world as Twilight Zone, they put together a promo where
- 38:15Speaker 2: it's like they're in the Twilight Zone, and you've got
- 38:18Speaker 2: our main character saying, it's like something weird happens in
- 38:21Speaker 2: the town, and he's like, this is like living in
- 38:23Speaker 2: the Twilight Zone. So they have an actual live footage
- 38:27Speaker 2: of him saying this, and then they run their promo
- 38:30Speaker 2: where it's like, here's a pig walking into the room,
- 38:32Speaker 2: and here's crazy, like everything going on, like if you
- 38:35Speaker 2: just tweak it a little bit, is totally insane but
- 38:39Speaker 2: like they kept it just watered down at the level
- 38:41Speaker 2: where normal middle american people would.
- 38:43Speaker 5: Watch this show all you got to do is remove
- 38:45Speaker 5: the laugh track and it's immediately twilight yeah.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Like so that's why i was like if you put
- 38:49Speaker 2: it more in that if you did more of a
- 38:51Speaker 2: pick and fences or a twin peaks kind of spin
- 38:53Speaker 2: well yeah i mean twin peaks like it's exactly what
- 38:56Speaker 2: it would become right yeah if you just tweak it
- 38:58Speaker 2: a little bit you're like oh no this is a
- 39:00Speaker 2: weird little town but i think.
- 39:01Speaker 3: You could redo it it would still be funny and
- 39:03Speaker 3: interesting I mean, they were.
- 39:04Speaker 2: Doing worse things.
- 39:05Speaker 3: I mean, there's a way.
- 39:06Speaker 2: They certainly have done worse things. But, yeah, there's a
- 39:09Speaker 2: way to do that. So, are you casting Green Acres now?
- 39:13Speaker 3: So, if you had to cast Green Acres.
- 39:14Speaker 2: Goodbye, City Life.
- 39:15Speaker 3: A modern Green Acres. I mean, your world opens up
- 39:18Speaker 3: because you have so many different old TV people to cast.
- 39:21Speaker 2: Oh, no. I was doing it like, are we casting now? And, again, like,
- 39:25Speaker 2: I don't. This is gonna be true on all of
- 39:28Speaker 2: these I don't always like these decisions that I've come
- 39:32Speaker 2: up with but I feel like sometimes no that's about
- 39:35Speaker 2: right so at this point wouldn't you just cast Kim Kardashian.
- 39:39Speaker 3: As a wife yeah but like.
- 39:41Speaker 2: In our modern society this is the big city life
- 39:44Speaker 2: girl that's gonna get thrown into the I don't know
- 39:46Speaker 2: how much you'd have to pay her to do it Well,
- 39:49Speaker 2: then who would.
- 39:49Speaker 3: You cast as Kanye?
- 39:52Speaker 2: Kanye decides he wants to work on a farm, which really,
- 39:56Speaker 2: if you told me that was real, I would buy it.
- 39:58Speaker 3: He has a house in Montana.
- 39:59Speaker 2: Everything else Kanye has done.
- 40:01Speaker 3: Kanye and Kim could now do Green Acres.
- 40:04Speaker 2: All right.
- 40:04Speaker 3: Which is kind of fascinating.
- 40:06Speaker 2: That's a great idea. I would watch it. Start sending
- 40:08Speaker 2: the checks over now. We'll start making it.
- 40:11Speaker 3: I mean, that is a fascinating thing. But that's the problem. Basically,
- 40:14Speaker 3: they could do that as a reality show.
- 40:17Speaker 2: Oh, God. Now you've ruined it.
- 40:18Speaker 3: But you know what I mean?
- 40:19Speaker 2: Everything is a reality show now. You've taken all the
- 40:21Speaker 2: creativity out of it.
- 40:22Speaker 3: No, but somebody could... They could say, well, we want
- 40:24Speaker 3: to do Kim and Kanye, and we want to do, like,
- 40:26Speaker 3: you know.
- 40:26Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be funny if they were on a farm?
- 40:28Speaker 3: Well, they are. They're in Montana. They have, like, a
- 40:30Speaker 3: ranch in Montana. They are already in that paradigm.
- 40:36Speaker 2: I don't want to see anything with them, truthfully. I
- 40:38Speaker 2: don't want to see... But, like, again, like, it seemed
- 40:40Speaker 2: like the most ridiculous... Like, the most Gabor I could
- 40:44Speaker 2: think of of our modern society was.
- 40:48Speaker 2: She's a little more Zsa Zsa, truthfully, if.
- 40:50Speaker 1: You ask me.
- 40:51Speaker 3: Wait, which one was? Ava.
- 40:55Speaker 2: I like Ava myself.
- 40:58Speaker 3: We're not 80. I swear we're not like 80 or 100.
- 41:01Speaker 2: That Ava Gabor is hot, let me tell you.
- 41:04Speaker 3: I'd cast her as princess. Okay, speaking of which, going
- 41:09Speaker 3: back to that, what did you have?
- 41:11Speaker 2: So my thinking is the old person that I am
- 41:14Speaker 2: is like, oh, the young kids, I'm just going to
- 41:17Speaker 2: cast it all because it's mostly minus the one girl.
- 41:20Speaker 2: It's a bunch of dudes. So I'm like, I'm just
- 41:22Speaker 2: going to cast everybody from one direction and we're going
- 41:24Speaker 2: to call it a movie.
- 41:25Speaker 3: But that's still like 10 years ago.
- 41:28Speaker 2: Well, but they're old enough now. They started really young.
- 41:31Speaker 2: So if we're, especially the, oh, I mean, I'm sure
- 41:33Speaker 2: Mark's going to be a little older than Keop. So
- 41:36Speaker 2: like if we're casting mid twenties, they've lined up now.
- 41:39Speaker 3: So you've got Harry Styles.
- 41:41Speaker 2: But then I was like, I was like, so that
- 41:43Speaker 2: was the, like the joke. And then I like was
- 41:45Speaker 2: Googling people and I was like, it brought up like,
- 41:48Speaker 2: the older version of Harry Styles when he had long
- 41:50Speaker 2: hair and I was like, oh shit, it's Mark.
- 41:52Speaker 3: It's Mark, I know.
- 41:52Speaker 2: I can see it. He's a skinny dude with long
- 41:55Speaker 2: dark hair. Shit, it's Mark. Like, so, I guess I'm
- 41:58Speaker 2: going with Harry Styles as Mark? I don't know. But yeah,
- 42:01Speaker 2: he's the right age actually now. So, which is 26.
- 42:05Speaker 2: So that's about, there's a few that cross past that,
- 42:09Speaker 2: but I was trying to keep it right around that
- 42:11Speaker 2: mid-20s era.
- 42:12Speaker 3: Because I don't know anybody in that area, do you
- 42:14Speaker 3: think SpaceX would build the Phoenix or do you think
- 42:17Speaker 3: NASA would?
- 42:19Speaker 2: What's this NASA you speak of? Definitely SpaceX. I heard
- 42:22Speaker 2: they went under.
- 42:24Speaker 3: SpaceX would build it?
- 42:25Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Yeah. At this point. I don't know. Financed
- 42:30Speaker 2: by One Direction Albums. Yeah, definitely have a band, like
- 42:33Speaker 2: a boy band. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'd be behind that.
- 42:36Speaker 3: And I would pick Lizzo for Princess.
- 42:37Speaker 2: Oh, God.
- 42:39Speaker 3: I love Lizzo.
- 42:40Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? I'm fine with her personally. She actually
- 42:44Speaker 2: seems very fun. Man, they played those songs to death.
- 42:46Speaker 3: Oh, but they're pretty good. Yeah.
- 42:49Speaker 2: I just got burnt out like immediately. I'm like, see,
- 42:51Speaker 2: I never got burnt out.
- 42:52Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. Yeah, I thought that album was fantastic.
- 42:55Speaker 2: I mean, good for her. Really.
- 42:57Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 42:59Speaker 2: I don't even know what she's making off of this,
- 43:01Speaker 2: but it's a lot. I hope so. Yeah, and she's
- 43:03Speaker 2: done a- Because again, she came from nothing and very
- 43:06Speaker 2: quickly became the biggest star in the world.
- 43:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and everything, you hear and you're like,
- 43:10Speaker 3: is that a Lizzo song? For like commercials. I mean,
- 43:11Speaker 3: that's genius.
- 43:13Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, so- Yeah, I cast Lizzo.
- 43:16Speaker 3: If you're doing like a young thing- I mean, she's cool.
- 43:19Speaker 2: Are we trying to stick with the, because that's the
- 43:22Speaker 2: other thing. I was like, are we trying to stick
- 43:23Speaker 2: with the, because I brought up pictures and I'm like, well,
- 43:26Speaker 2: Mark and Jason kind of look exactly the same because
- 43:28Speaker 2: it's anime. They're all skinny people. But the other weird
- 43:31Speaker 2: thing about anime is most of the time they make
- 43:33Speaker 2: them as Americanized as possible, which makes no sense. Yeah.
- 43:37Speaker 2: So like if we were casting it Well, I don't
- 43:40Speaker 2: have anything because I don't know tons of like actors
- 43:44Speaker 2: that are popular in Asia. So I'm like, would we
- 43:47Speaker 2: cast it like where it probably should have originally been cast?
- 43:51Speaker 2: Because that's truthfully what should happen. Like it should have
- 43:53Speaker 2: been people of the country that they were making this in.
- 43:57Speaker 2: And then for some reason, I don't know. Most anime
- 43:59Speaker 2: is like that.
- 44:00Speaker 3: Because we got like the weird cut up.
- 44:02Speaker 2: Well, even more so. Yeah. But they were still like
- 44:04Speaker 2: American looking to begin with. They're all wearing like. baseball
- 44:08Speaker 2: jersey shirts, and, like, they're dressed like they live here, too, like,
- 44:11Speaker 2: in the 70s.
- 44:12Speaker 3: Yeah, but, I mean, we were, the time we saw that,
- 44:15Speaker 3: we had no idea where it came from.
- 44:16Speaker 2: Well, again, it's Battle of the Planets, so it in
- 44:18Speaker 2: itself is different. If we were talking the Gatchaman movie,
- 44:21Speaker 2: which they did make a live action one, I found out. Yeah,
- 44:23Speaker 2: they did. That's what I was talking about earlier.
- 44:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 44:25Speaker 2: There's, like, a 2013 Gatchaman movie, which, but they cast
- 44:29Speaker 2: all Asian actors, as they probably should have.
- 44:32Speaker 1: Right.
- 44:32Speaker 2: So, like.
- 44:33Speaker 3: I mean, we don't know, we don't know that as
- 44:35Speaker 3: anything beyond... Battle of the Planets. Battle of the Planets,
- 44:38Speaker 3: which is a weird, smattering, bastardized version of.
- 44:42Speaker 2: Whatever it really was.
- 44:42Speaker 5: G-Force was the bastardized version.
- 44:45Speaker 3: No! G-Force and Battle of the Planets are the same thing.
- 44:47Speaker 2: For some reason, we called it the same thing. I know,
- 44:49Speaker 2: but it was.
- 44:50Speaker 3: We called it different. Because they were G-Force.
- 44:52Speaker 2: It was promoted on television as G-Force.
- 44:55Speaker 3: Was it?
- 44:57Speaker 2: On Channel 41, every day, when you got home from school.
- 45:00Speaker 3: And then there was probably some drunk weatherman after that, like, hey,
- 45:04Speaker 3: come here with that.
- 45:06Speaker 2: I love lamp.
- 45:10Speaker 3: Drunk, sexually harassing weatherman came on after that.
- 45:13Speaker 2: That could have been two years ago at this point, truthfully. So, okay,
- 45:17Speaker 2: to throw out other... Because I wasn't really suggesting the entire...
- 45:21Speaker 2: Although that would be the most promotional stunt way to
- 45:24Speaker 2: do it, I guess. So I was just trying to
- 45:26Speaker 2: find other people, sort of, that you could throw in there. Obviously,
- 45:32Speaker 2: the go-to of anyone... who's not an old man to
- 45:34Speaker 2: get cast in movies these days, is Timothee Chalamet.
- 45:38Speaker 3: He's so generic. I am sorry he's so generic.
- 45:42Speaker 2: So are Mark and Jason. So much so they're interchangeable.
- 45:46Speaker 2: But even as characters, that's the other weird thing. It
- 45:48Speaker 2: had been so long since I watched Battle of the Planets.
- 45:52Speaker 2: After we talked about it, I went back and found
- 45:54Speaker 2: some clips and I was like, Mark is fucking.
- 46:00Speaker 2: He's shaggy, for God's sakes. Like, he sounds like an
- 46:03Speaker 2: old man. Like, it doesn't even make sense to the
- 46:05Speaker 2: voice actors that he casts.
- 46:06Speaker 3: I thought it was like Casey Kasem. It is. Okay.
- 46:08Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
- 46:08Speaker 3: Yeah, it's totally weird.
- 46:09Speaker 2: He cast an old man to look like this 20-something
- 46:12Speaker 2: teenager wearing his, like, cool, like, jersey shirt. You know,
- 46:17Speaker 2: the hard cast is really key ops.
- 46:21Speaker 3: I think that's, yeah.
- 46:23Speaker 2: Yeah. I at least came up with something. What's funny
- 46:25Speaker 2: is I'm looking through all these, like I found several different,
- 46:28Speaker 2: like the hot young actors or the hundred most influential
- 46:32Speaker 2: actors that are going to take over Hollywood. But then
- 46:35Speaker 2: looking down the list and I started scrolling down this
- 46:38Speaker 2: huge list and I'm like, there is no, and I
- 46:41Speaker 2: think this says a lot about the industry and the
- 46:43Speaker 2: world around us. Nobody for tiny. Nobody. Key up, I
- 46:48Speaker 2: could at least find, people that like fit that were
- 46:51Speaker 2: younger or like weren't big imposing guys that could maybe
- 46:54Speaker 2: pull off a performance that would work as kiyop tiny
- 46:58Speaker 2: physically you can't cast anybody that's a popular.
- 47:01Speaker 3: Actor and i think we've talked about this with kiyop
- 47:03Speaker 3: like with kiyop you're portraying more of like the upside.
- 47:08Speaker 2: That's what we decided on that last episode was it's
- 47:11Speaker 2: gonna get a spin of He's on the spectrum. And
- 47:14Speaker 2: he has an incredible way to use it.
- 47:15Speaker 3: And he'll probably be able to use that to.
- 47:17Speaker 2: And utilize it.
- 47:17Speaker 3: Yeah. Because, like, why wouldn't he?
- 47:20Speaker 2: So that would make sense, actually.
- 47:22Speaker 3: Right.
- 47:22Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right.
- 47:23Speaker 3: With Tiny, that's kind of a hard one.
- 47:24Speaker 2: But Tiny, I was going through and I was like,
- 47:26Speaker 2: there really isn't anybody. And I was trying to come
- 47:31Speaker 2: up with... You can go... There's a handful of heavyset actors,
- 47:36Speaker 2: but even those are ancient because the go-to is like, oh,
- 47:39Speaker 2: Jonah Hill's a big guy. Well, first of all, old. Well,
- 47:41Speaker 2: Jonah Hill is old and he's slimmed down. And lost
- 47:43Speaker 2: all that weight.
- 47:44Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 47:44Speaker 2: And when he got away... But they were also comedic actors. Like,
- 47:47Speaker 2: Seth Rogen was a big dude at some point. I
- 47:49Speaker 2: don't know. He goes back and forth too. But like, again,
- 47:52Speaker 2: they're always comedic actors. Like, the only thing I can
- 47:55Speaker 2: think of, and again, if we're like... Because some of
- 47:58Speaker 2: this also becomes time travel casting. Like, somebody like... Younger
- 48:02Speaker 2: John Goodman, who was a big dude, but could also play, like,
- 48:07Speaker 2: a tough guy, like, who could be, like, there to be, like,
- 48:10Speaker 2: the muscle of the group if need be.
- 48:11Speaker 3: That's what we're getting into with, like, the old casting
- 48:14Speaker 3: of it, because it's not just, like, it's referencing us
- 48:16Speaker 3: being old, but it's also anybody who watched that is
- 48:21Speaker 3: from our era.
- 48:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 48:22Speaker 3: You know, it's not like there's kids now that are
- 48:25Speaker 3: probably watching.
- 48:26Speaker 2: There's probably kids watching Gatchaman. But not in this country
- 48:30Speaker 2: or a handful of nerdy kids in this country.
- 48:31Speaker 5: But the thought in any production company would be how
- 48:34Speaker 5: do you attract young viewers to a remake of an
- 48:39Speaker 5: old show? And you would do that with young current actors.
- 48:43Speaker 2: Hot young actors. So do you still cast a big person?
- 48:48Speaker 2: Or do they totally jump over that, even though his
- 48:50Speaker 2: name is Tiny, jokingly? Yeah.
- 48:52Speaker 5: Well, maybe the name's Tim. Maybe the name's no longer ironic.
- 48:56Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe the name's no longer ironic. And he's actually
- 48:59Speaker 2: very small. He's a small person.
- 49:01Speaker 3: Well, then you could do Kevin Hart. But that's still
- 49:05Speaker 3: like an older group, right? So if I had to
- 49:07Speaker 3: pick somebody that is in the old person casting of that,
- 49:12Speaker 3: I would pick, oh, God, the guy from 30 Rock
- 49:16Speaker 3: in Seriant Life.
- 49:19Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
- 49:19Speaker 2: That's so cool. Alec Baldwin no no no he's in
- 49:22Speaker 2: both those things a lot.
- 49:24Speaker 3: I just want to live every week like it's Shark
- 49:26Speaker 3: Week 30 Rock well anyway it doesn't matter but you
- 49:31Speaker 3: have to pick somebody that's funny and kind of like
- 49:34Speaker 3: comfortable with the awkward and even you know who you
- 49:36Speaker 3: could pick for key ops would be You could pick
- 49:39Speaker 3: Pete Davidson.
- 49:41Speaker 1: Oh, God.
- 49:43Speaker 2: Except we're just at the point now where we have
- 49:46Speaker 2: to decide as a society.
- 49:48Speaker 3: If he is a legit actor.
- 49:49Speaker 2: Are we okay with him? Because he's got a movie
- 49:51Speaker 2: out now. And it's as much of drama as Pete
- 49:55Speaker 2: Davidson can make. He's still just being himself, more or less.
- 49:58Speaker 2: But it gets into pretty serious subject matter. So now
- 50:02Speaker 2: we have to decide. Are we going to take Pete
- 50:03Speaker 2: Davidson seriously?
- 50:05Speaker 3: I'm totally willing to give it a try. Tracy Morgan.
- 50:08Speaker 2: Oh, God. Okay, that's tiny. Which is another one of
- 50:11Speaker 2: those I was trying to decide, like, do we then
- 50:14Speaker 2: work in different ethnicities if we're going to, like, not
- 50:17Speaker 2: be a whole bunch of white kids? Or if we're
- 50:20Speaker 2: not going to go, like, Asian, like, do we then
- 50:23Speaker 2: do some of different races? Do we do a whole
- 50:27Speaker 2: team of cool black people? Like, I don't know. Like,
- 50:30Speaker 2: which direction do we go with this?
- 50:32Speaker 3: Well, I mean.
- 50:33Speaker 2: Well, I think that's probably irrelevant.
- 50:35Speaker 3: Mark and Jason are just too white.
- 50:37Speaker 2: They're just... They're generic white.
- 50:38Speaker 3: They're so generic.
- 50:39Speaker 2: Which is why I came up with so many options
- 50:41Speaker 2: for them.
- 50:42Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 50:42Speaker 2: I have almost nothing for the rest of the team.
- 50:44Speaker 3: You could plug any random white dude.
- 50:47Speaker 2: I don't know that I agree with that.
- 50:48Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because they're both like the handsome white
- 50:52Speaker 3: dude that kind of look the same and they spar.
- 50:56Speaker 2: You also... Then you had to... Because that became my thing.
- 50:58Speaker 2: Because everybody I was pulling up of generic actor guys...
- 51:03Speaker 2: all fell to Mark because he's the go-to and because
- 51:06Speaker 2: most of them are like leading men kind of guys.
- 51:08Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you've got the secondary, generic, best friend.
- 51:10Speaker 2: So you get this leading man guy. No, Jason to
- 51:14Speaker 2: me is the bad boy. He's the one who wants,
- 51:16Speaker 2: he's always, as I remember, always just bitching about stuff.
- 51:19Speaker 2: He's got the car. That's his only thing. So then
- 51:22Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, my go-to at this point is
- 51:24Speaker 2: going to be Cole Sprouse. Which, funny, again, that's another
- 51:30Speaker 2: one of those, I'm like, I had no idea he
- 51:31Speaker 2: was as old as he is. But playing a high
- 51:34Speaker 2: school kid right now on TV.
- 51:35Speaker 3: How old is he?
- 51:36Speaker 2: He's 27. I don't know who he is.
- 51:38Speaker 3: What happened? He said he got his Twitter hacked or something.
- 51:41Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. Are you looking for those special
- 51:43Speaker 2: photos of him?
- 51:44Speaker 3: No.
- 51:45Speaker 2: Who is this person? Because I'm looking for Lily Reinhardt.
- 51:47Speaker 2: But anyway, that's a different story. Who is this person?
- 51:51Speaker 2: That's the other reason I figured we'd need devices. So
- 51:54Speaker 2: whenever we named a name of a person that's 30
- 51:57Speaker 2: years younger, we'd be like, I have to look him
- 51:59Speaker 2: up and see what he looks like. Anyway, Cole Sprouse
- 52:03Speaker 2: is the, is falling into the, he's on Riverdale now.
- 52:07Speaker 2: He's become, which again, I thought was weird casting. First
- 52:10Speaker 2: of all, that they even made the Jughead type character,
- 52:13Speaker 2: like the bad boy, but like he kind of, he's
- 52:15Speaker 2: in like a, he's in, He's in a gang. He
- 52:18Speaker 2: wears a leather jacket all the time. He's become like
- 52:20Speaker 2: the bad boy version where Archie's the good guy that
- 52:24Speaker 2: plays on the football team even though god awful things happen.
- 52:27Speaker 2: I love that show so much. I hate to tell you.
- 52:29Speaker 4: I know.
- 52:29Speaker 3: You've loved that for years and I have yet to
- 52:31Speaker 3: visit it.
- 52:32Speaker 2: It's so insane. Again, playing up the melodrama. Oh, my God.
- 52:37Speaker 2: So that was one I threw in there. The other
- 52:38Speaker 2: weird one I came up with, again, edging out at
- 52:42Speaker 2: this point, and I didn't even think of him. He
- 52:44Speaker 2: showed up on one of the lists, and I was like, oh, actually,
- 52:47Speaker 2: Joe Keery, which I wouldn't have known him by name,
- 52:51Speaker 2: he's Steve from Stranger Things. Totally has the look. He
- 52:55Speaker 2: looks exactly like he's skinny with the long hair already.
- 52:58Speaker 3: Wait a minute, which one's Steve?
- 53:00Speaker 2: The babysitter. Yeah. Works at the ice cream shop. Yeah,
- 53:05Speaker 2: you know.
- 53:05Speaker 3: That dates the sister?
- 53:08Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
- 53:09Speaker 3: And it actually dates the sister?
- 53:11Speaker 2: Well, started dating the sister. And dates the sister. Then
- 53:13Speaker 2: eventually wasn't. Not the older brother of the younger brother. Oh,
- 53:16Speaker 2: they're no longer together? What season are you on? Like,
- 53:19Speaker 2: by the first season, they weren't together.
- 53:21Speaker 3: No, no, no, wait. Who's the guy that actually dates
- 53:24Speaker 3: the sister?
- 53:26Speaker 2: When?
- 53:26Speaker 3: Who?
- 53:27Speaker 2: In season one, in real life, it's both. In real life,
- 53:30Speaker 2: it's the other one, right?
- 53:31Speaker 3: The skinny kids. They're both super skinny.
- 53:34Speaker 2: Google up images for yourself. I gotta Google. Well, wait.
- 53:38Speaker 2: In real life, it's the older brother of the kid. Yes.
- 53:42Speaker 2: The Winona's son. That's who it is in real life.
- 53:45Speaker 3: Right.
- 53:46Speaker 2: Steve is the other one. Steve is the tall one.
- 53:48Speaker 2: Steve is the guy. Does he not look like Jason?
- 53:51Speaker 2: Look at him.
- 53:52Speaker 3: I can't.
- 53:53Speaker 2: I'm with you. Wait a minute. He's skinny with long hair.
- 53:56Speaker 2: Generic white dude. He looks like Jason.
- 53:57Speaker 3: Okay, then the chubby kid.
- 53:59Speaker 2: And was the bad boy of that show, too. Like,
- 54:02Speaker 2: he's the one that was, like, the other guy was
- 54:04Speaker 2: the nerdy one that she would never go out with.
- 54:06Speaker 2: Steve was the cool bad boy going to high school.
- 54:09Speaker 2: So I'm just like, again, he's edging out. I had
- 54:11Speaker 2: no idea he was 28 years old, either.
- 54:13Speaker 3: Natalie Dyer. So Natalie Dyer dates.
- 54:15Speaker 2: She's dating the other guy. Steve.
- 54:18Speaker 3: Joe Keery. They date one another in real life.
- 54:20Speaker 4: No.
- 54:21Speaker 3: She dates Charlie Heaton.
- 54:22Speaker 2: See? That's what I told you.
- 54:24Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 54:24Speaker 2: Joe Keery.
- 54:25Speaker 3: He's cute.
- 54:26Speaker 2: But is he not Jason? He's a tall, skinny dude
- 54:28Speaker 2: with long hair. Steve Harrington. See?
- 54:32Speaker 3: And then Charlie Heaton could be... Or Charlie Heaton could be.
- 54:35Speaker 2: He's Kiev. And could probably do a good job, actually,
- 54:39Speaker 2: now that I think about it. Oh, yeah.
- 54:41Speaker 3: He's too skinny.
- 54:41Speaker 2: He's sort of dealing with some social awkwardness. Charlie Heaton's
- 54:45Speaker 2: got some... Issues.
- 54:49Speaker 3: That's the look of a guy.
- 54:50Speaker 2: I mean, even on that show, he's got social awkwardness
- 54:53Speaker 2: going on. Charlie Heaton? So.
- 54:54Speaker 3: No, Joe Keery's cute and socially awkward, but Charlie Heaton
- 54:58Speaker 3: looks like he may have a drug problem.
- 55:00Speaker 2: Yeah, just a tad. Maybe that's what led Keery off
- 55:03Speaker 2: down his weird road. Maybe it's not like Spectrum, it's
- 55:07Speaker 2: just leftovers from his horrible drug addiction.
- 55:09Speaker 3: No, I mean, I've known some. That is not a.
- 55:13Speaker 2: Okay, while you're looking... Yes, Joe.
- 55:15Speaker 3: She should go for Joe. Let's go back to that.
- 55:17Speaker 3: She should go for Joe.
- 55:19Speaker 2: While you're looking people up, though.
- 55:20Speaker 6: Do it, Joe.
- 55:21Speaker 2: Type it in.
- 55:22Speaker 3: Joe, what are you doing? Okay.
- 55:23Speaker 2: Okay. Thomas Brody Sanjster.
- 55:26Speaker 3: Oh, I know him.
- 55:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:28Speaker 3: He's been in things forever.
- 55:29Speaker 2: Keyob.
- 55:31Speaker 3: I think that's too young for him.
- 55:33Speaker 2: No, he's actually too old, technically, but he can still
- 55:35Speaker 2: play young.
- 55:36Speaker 3: That was a kid in Love Actually and then in.
- 55:39Speaker 2: He's in The Maze Runner.
- 55:41Speaker 3: The Maze Runner.
- 55:41Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:41Speaker 3: Yeah, he's good in that.
- 55:43Speaker 2: He's really old, by the way. He's good. Do the
- 55:45Speaker 2: math on Love Actually. He's 30.
- 55:47Speaker 3: 36?
- 55:47Speaker 2: Get this image out of your head. Yeah, that's what
- 55:50Speaker 2: I'm saying. But now put him as Keyob.
- 55:53Speaker 3: Why do people do mustaches?
- 55:54Speaker 2: Well, he's... I think that's totally the right casting. Because
- 55:58Speaker 2: he's weird and awkward.
- 56:00Speaker 3: And I do think that... Exactly.
- 56:02Speaker 2: I don't know that we go with that delivery anymore.
- 56:04Speaker 2: I don't think you go with that. And I don't
- 56:05Speaker 2: think you go with having.
- 56:06Speaker 3: A great key-op. You go with a person who is
- 56:09Speaker 3: so focused on... But I still.
- 56:11Speaker 2: Feel like he plays that. That's the thing. The generic
- 56:14Speaker 2: guys we're casting for Mark and Jason can't do that.
- 56:17Speaker 2: You've got to have somebody specific like him that can
- 56:19Speaker 2: pull off a key-op thing.
- 56:22Speaker 3: So I love the first Maze Runner movie.
- 56:25Speaker 2: It's one of those recently I went, you know, I
- 56:27Speaker 2: need to watch those. The first one is phenomenal. And
- 56:29Speaker 2: then I can never find them all at the same
- 56:31Speaker 2: place at the same time. So I'm like, well, I'm
- 56:33Speaker 2: not going to watch like two. He looks like a gentleman.
- 56:36Speaker 2: I like him. That's what I'm saying. I think he's
- 56:38Speaker 2: a good choice. And I think could probably deliver the
- 56:41Speaker 2: kind of performance you would need from that too.
- 56:43Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's kind of brooding, but in a different
- 56:46Speaker 3: way that's not like, I'm brooding. Like he's got an intensity.
- 56:50Speaker 2: But an accessibility. The only other one, and I don't
- 56:52Speaker 2: even know work-wise, I was just looking through the list
- 56:55Speaker 2: and I was like, all right, this one might work.
- 56:57Speaker 2: Dylan Schmidt, who I don't really know.
- 56:59Speaker 3: I don't know that one.
- 57:00Speaker 2: He's from Once Upon a Time. He was Balefire, or
- 57:03Speaker 2: he's on the new Snowpiercer TV show. But he's younger.
- 57:06Speaker 2: That's the thing. We've also got to cast him. definitely
- 57:08Speaker 2: younger or able to play massively younger than mark and
- 57:12Speaker 2: jason um the other i was just trying to of
- 57:15Speaker 2: the other ones i got to trying to think of
- 57:19Speaker 2: anybody else to the other one that uh was like
- 57:22Speaker 2: the more i thought about it because then i was
- 57:24Speaker 2: doing like oh they aged out of it already perfect
- 57:27Speaker 2: casting especially for jason would have at one point in
- 57:31Speaker 2: time been a young adam driver Is he not exactly right?
- 57:36Speaker 3: Yeah, he's perfect. But it's so funny. He falls in
- 57:38Speaker 3: that thing where he's not super young and he's not like.
- 57:43Speaker 2: But he's definitely aged out of that. Yeah, he's aged
- 57:45Speaker 2: out of that. Because he's mid-30s. He's no Tom Cruise,
- 57:47Speaker 2: but he's definitely... You.
- 57:49Speaker 3: Know, he's always looked older to me.
- 57:52Speaker 2: Like, I can't... That's the years in the military. Yeah.
- 57:54Speaker 5: What was that series that he did where he was.
- 57:58Speaker 2: The guy documenting the.
- 58:03Speaker 2: Torture in Afghanistan. It was on, what was it, on HBO?
- 58:11Speaker 3: Can I tell you what I just got the two
- 58:13Speaker 3: things confused with? What? That and then Sacha Baron Cohen
- 58:18Speaker 3: staying free.
- 58:19Speaker 2: Those are very different people, by the way.
- 58:22Speaker 3: I love Sacha Baron Cohen. I think he's an incredible actor.
- 58:25Speaker 2: The Report? Yes, The Report. The Report. That's what it was.
- 58:29Speaker 2: Where he plays Daniel Jones.
- 58:31Speaker 3: That was good.
- 58:32Speaker 2: It was good. And reminded you of Battle of the Planets.
- 58:38Speaker 3: Yes, let's all go back to that. And reminded me
- 58:40Speaker 3: of Battle of the Planets. And Sacha Baron Cohen could
- 58:43Speaker 3: have also played that part.
- 58:44Speaker 2: My other weird trying to shove somebody in somewhere here,
- 58:50Speaker 2: mostly because I'd already gotten a point of like, oh yeah, him.
- 58:54Speaker 2: We need to find something to do with Chandler Riggs.
- 59:00Speaker 2: That poor kid, I don't want him to go through
- 59:02Speaker 2: his whole life just being cool. Like, he was a...
- 59:06Speaker 2: We all hated him in the beginning. We'll all agree.
- 59:09Speaker 2: He was an annoying little child. That wasn't his fault
- 59:11Speaker 2: as an actor. Like, just the performance, the character was
- 59:13Speaker 2: annoying and doing stupid things, getting people killed. But as
- 59:17Speaker 2: the series went on, I was like, I kind of
- 59:18Speaker 2: like this kid, I gotta say. So, like, I haven't
- 59:21Speaker 2: really seen him do much else since then. So, I
- 59:23Speaker 2: kind of... I want Carl to have something else to
- 59:27Speaker 2: do with his time.
- 59:28Speaker 3: I feel like he's the dime store Paul Dano.
- 59:30Speaker 2: It's you and your Paul Dano.
- 59:32Speaker 3: Paul Dano's awesome.
- 59:33Speaker 2: He's no call. I don't know.
- 59:36Speaker 3: Paul Dano's been in so many great movies.
- 59:39Speaker 2: Alrighty. There will be blood. Why is Chandler Riggs.
- 59:44Speaker 5: Yes, he is sort of a younger Paul Dano.
- 59:48Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, that would be the.
- 59:50Speaker 2: But I guess alternate key-op? Oh, my God. Wait a minute.
- 59:53Speaker 2: He doesn't fit the other two guys.
- 59:55Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you're taking that whole idea, then
- 59:58Speaker 3: you could take the girl from True Grit, who's I
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: don't get.
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: No, that's my first on the call sheet of a princess.
- 1:00:07Speaker 3: Really?
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: Hayley Steinfeld. I think she is an awesome actress. And again,
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: kind of looks the part. Skinny girl, dark hair. Everybody
- 1:00:14Speaker 2: in the team has dark hair.
- 1:00:17Speaker 3: No, princess had kind of reddish.
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: Everybody on the team has the same color hair. Actually,
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: Keops is a little more brown. They all look the same.
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: Is Princess the one on the right?
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: They all wear the same damn shirts.
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: No, but I have like a thing.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: And they're striped pants. So wait a minute.
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: So when I worked with Ben, Paul's friend. Oh, Lord.
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: Ben gave me a Battle of the Planets like baseball
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: gum card.
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: Long time listeners know Ben. Oh, yeah. We're sorry.
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: Ben.
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: So Ben gave me a Princess card because I had
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: a white Vespa that I would ride to work. And
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: Princess had like blondish reddish hair in her pink uniform.
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: So it was wrong.
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: Man, I love that episode.
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: Where she gets eaten by the flower.
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: Maybe it's just the week that she died. When I
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: was a kid, when I watched that, we had a
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: magnolia bush in my grandmother's front yard, and the flowers
- 1:01:09Speaker 3: looked exactly like that.
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: It's going to eat you.
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: And I was like, I want to be part of
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: Battle of the Planets.
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: Last time we brought that up, I think the episode
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: I was referencing and the crazy Magnolia eat people episode.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: It was a double episode. I think it's the same episode.
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: It's a double episode.
- 1:01:24Speaker 2: I think it's the same one. Because I tried to find, again,
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: you can't really, I guess you have to have fancy
- 1:01:29Speaker 2: streaming services to watch them as a whole. But I
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: found references to it. And I'm like, I think this
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: is all the same episode.
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: That was a great one. And then my other favorite
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: was the horses, the race horses with the button on
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: the back. Because I'm from Kentucky. And I'd love a
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: robot horse.
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: Are you now? Yeah.
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: I've had horses. I'd rather have a robot horse because
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: it's heartbreaking.
- 1:01:48Speaker 2: My go-to, that was kind of the first person I
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: thought of. And then I brought up the picture of
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: Princess and I was like, oh, and sheep. coincidentally kind of.
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: Looks like her kind of looks like her um.
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: Of the other just like recent sort of in the
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: right age range actress uh florence pune yeah she's the
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: it girl of last year anyway yeah so at this
- 1:02:08Speaker 2: point she would get cast and i think would do
- 1:02:10Speaker 2: a great job at anything so did.
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: You watch hayley steinfeld's uh steinfeld steinfeld's thing about new
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: series emily dickinson i saw the promos for it i
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: don't have that streaming service it's pretty good It looked.
- 1:02:25Speaker 2: Interesting because it had this weird modern take on a
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: very old story.
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: Yeah, and Paul's love of the Great is kind of
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: in that same vein, except for hers is more modern,
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: that Emily Dickinson piece is more modern. And I do
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: really like some of that, and I think that... Emily
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: Dickinson is one of those like poets that I've kind
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: of loathed and loved because I think that she's very
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: succinct and like expressive. And yet I had to memorize
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: a shit ton of it in like girl school. And
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: I was like, I cannot do this. But seeing it
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: in that light, I'm like, that's kind of cool. I
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: wish I thought of it that way, you know? Yeah.
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: I mean, it at least gives you a new perspective
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: for these things.
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: Yeah. And it like could maybe give somebody else a
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: love for that that never existed.
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: That you don't have or didn't have.
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: I do.
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: It gives you a different appreciation.
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: Yeah, it gives me a different way to appreciate it
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: and hope that somebody gets it in a way.
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: And maybe a way in for a girl coming up now.
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: That would have been like, no, thank you. But maybe.
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: Here's this woman that literally lived kind of nobody knew
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: and wrote this fairly awesome poetry.
- 1:03:32Speaker 4: Cool.
- 1:03:34Speaker 3: Anyway, we're talking about Dickinson. We said Princess should be
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: because Paul got up and walked away. Where were you?
- 1:03:41Speaker 2: Hailee Steinfeld, Florence Pune. Those are the only two we've
- 1:03:44Speaker 2: come up with for princess so far.
- 1:03:45Speaker 3: What you got?
- 1:03:46Speaker 2: It's not Scarlett Johansson. Anything we haven't already covered that's
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: not old lady pics. Actually, honestly.
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: It's not old lady pics. It's just like old dude pics.
- 1:03:56Speaker 3: I'm thinking like how would Hollywood cast this?
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: I mean, probably with that one.
- 1:04:00Speaker 3: Because the Avengers could have been totally different.
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: She's also like an amazing actress. So I have no
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: problem with her being in anything. But again, is that appropriate?
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: But modern Hollywood would also try and wedge in like
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: Was it appropriate.
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: For her to be the lead in the Ghost in
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: the Shell movie? No, it was not at all appropriate. No,
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: she should not have been in there. But Hollywood crammed
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: her in there. They crammed her in.
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: I mean, I like her.
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: They crammed her in. Again, I think even in that,
- 1:04:24Speaker 2: she didn't do a terrible job. It's just the idea
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: was not the best, perhaps. But they found a way
- 1:04:30Speaker 2: to write it in, which I guess you get points
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: for that. But it's still a lame Hollywood move to
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: make at that point.
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: I think I enjoy going from the lame Hollywood idea
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: because it's pretty funny and comical that we still look
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: at the same people and say, like, that's who I cast.
- 1:04:51Speaker 5: I think the important part for Battle of the Planets
- 1:04:53Speaker 5: would be that.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: All of the actors would be unknown.
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: That's the easy way out, Paul Moeller.
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: Nope.
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: That's the easy way out.
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: If you can do that. But again, are we doing
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: a big budget movie? Because to get the backing for
- 1:05:04Speaker 2: a big budget movie, you've got to have recognizable names.
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: Most of the time.
- 1:05:08Speaker 5: I'm thinking of the bigger picture and that for it
- 1:05:15Speaker 5: to be a successful movie, Not necessarily a blockbuster.
- 1:05:19Speaker 2: Well, yeah. Are we talking good movie or are we
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: talking successful movie?
- 1:05:23Speaker 3: I'm usually working from the idea of a blockbuster because
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: I think that that's the funny thing to start from.
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
- 1:05:29Speaker 5: If you want it to be a good movie, they
- 1:05:31Speaker 5: all need to be unknowns.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: Relatively unknowns.
- 1:05:33Speaker 3: But it's an unknown story.
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: And true to the series.
- 1:05:36Speaker 4: Doesn't matter.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: Because I didn't know any of those cartoons when I
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: started watching it. I didn't know them.
- 1:05:39Speaker 5: I didn't recognize them from Bugs Bunny or nothing. Because
- 1:05:43Speaker 5: if you take a known actor and you put them
- 1:05:45Speaker 5: into these roles... It's going to come with all the
- 1:05:47Speaker 5: baggage of their known roles.
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: But it doesn't matter.
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: They do that. It's like everything.
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Like Daniel Craig. That is a mistake.
- 1:05:56Speaker 2: It is a mistake.
- 1:05:57Speaker 5: Now, Daniel Craig is in Cowboys and Aliens.
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: He wasn't Bond yet.
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Harrison Ford is not Han Solo.
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: I think he was. Was he? I think he may
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: have only had one under his belt, but I think
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: he was Bond already because I knew who he was
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: when I saw that movie.
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: But I knew him through... Just.
- 1:06:16Speaker 2: Because you're friends with James Bond.
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: James Bond and I go way back. No, I think
- 1:06:23Speaker 3: it was from.
- 1:06:23Speaker 5: Even still, Walton Goggins and Harrison Ford.
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: I do like Walton Goggins. It's one of those I
- 1:06:28Speaker 2: didn't realize I'd seen him in so many things.
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: Until now that I know him from all these other things,
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: I look back and I'm like, oh God, he was
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: in this and he was in this.
- 1:06:36Speaker 5: Yeah, but I just think for it to be a success,
- 1:06:40Speaker 5: you would want people that not everybody's familiar with.
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: Well.
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: To us old people that don't know anybody. To us
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: old folks, I wouldn't know who they are. But couldn't
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: you do that with all these young actors? It would
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: be like a bunch of unknowns to you. You could.
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: But somebody sitting behind a desk might green light it.
- 1:07:02Speaker 5: I certainly wouldn't know their names, though.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: I couldn't say it now.
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: And that's the other thing. Okay, so here's what I
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: don't understand. And this is me, because I've gotten old.
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: I see like new actors and I'm like, they are
- 1:07:17Speaker 3: not attractive. You know, for women it's different. But for
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: men looking at women, it's different.
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: Is it?
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it's totally different. They're young and fresh
- 1:07:30Speaker 3: and bouncy. But for like a woman looking at a man,
- 1:07:34Speaker 3: I'm like, who are these guys? I don't think. that's why.
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: But is it just because you are where you are?
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: Because there are 14 year old girls freaking out over
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: all these dudes.
- 1:07:45Speaker 3: I know.
- 1:07:46Speaker 2: Is it a perspective thing with age or is it
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: that people, I mean, I also feel like people have
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: continued to change because when I look back at like
- 1:07:55Speaker 2: actresses in the 40s, I feel like they look very
- 1:07:58Speaker 2: different than actresses now.
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: No, and it's not that because I think it's a
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: complete change of things where it's like as a younger person, Gal,
- 1:08:08Speaker 3: I didn't like guys that were pretty or clean. I
- 1:08:11Speaker 3: liked the dirty bad boy.
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: This does say a lot about you.
- 1:08:15Speaker 3: I liked the sort of dangerous type.
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: The Jasons. Is it the Mark?
- 1:08:22Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: Jason's definitely the bad boy. Mark sounds like an old man.
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: He's obviously the upstanding leader of the group. Annie wore white.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: Very important.
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: So this goes to my whole Tom Hiddleston problem.
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: It's the white cowboy hat.
- 1:08:37Speaker 3: I keep going back to my Tom Hiddleston issue. He's
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: the bad boy, and yet he's like the most glamorous,
- 1:08:45Speaker 3: fixed up, eyebrow, correct eyebrow kind of thing.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: But that's a special kind of villain. There certainly, and
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: have kind of always been a version of that villain.
- 1:08:57Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's nobody really that's like, the good guy
- 1:09:00Speaker 3: or the bad guy that looks like you know indiana
- 1:09:03Speaker 3: jones are we talking about in real.
- 1:09:06Speaker 2: Life because these are all fictional stories you know oh
- 1:09:09Speaker 2: i know or have you become delusional.
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: No no i'm talking about like the fictional stories and
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: who's cast like the idea and the aesthetic.
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: That's changed Okay, so what are we saying? Nobody that
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: looks like Harrison Ford gets cast these days?
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: No! I'm saying you've got this, like, you could have made, like,
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: Loki super creepy and weird, and he's just kind of.
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: But with that character, you don't want him to be,
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: because he's never really the bad guy. That's almost my
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: issue with that first movie.
- 1:09:34Speaker 3: He is the bad guy!
- 1:09:35Speaker 2: He's not the bad guy, because he turns around and
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: becomes the hero in several other movies over the years.
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: He doesn't!
- 1:09:43Speaker 3: He flip-flops.
- 1:09:44Speaker 2: He flip-flops constantly, which is why you can't make him
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: altogether bad.
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: Alright.
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: And all together like undesirable because the nature of his
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: character yeah we have to swing back around and be
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: like well he's kind of okay in this movie and
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: they're like oh that bastard he stabbed us in the
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: back again like we need that element to him.
- 1:10:00Speaker 5: It is the nature of the character it's designed to
- 1:10:02Speaker 5: do that it has to.
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: Do that Can't it just be bad?
- 1:10:05Speaker 3: Can't it just be bad and dangerous?
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: You can have it. That's that. That's the difference between
- 1:10:09Speaker 2: Thanos and Loki. Thanos is all horrible. He kills half
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: of humanity and all other living creatures.
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: Obviously.
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: And even that we come around on. Even that we
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: start to see. The dichotomy is what makes Loki interesting.
- 1:10:22Speaker 3: Obviously we all have differing versions of chaotic neutral. Roll
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: a 20.
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: So, as an update, by the time Cowboys and Aliens
- 1:10:36Speaker 2: came out, two James Bonds under his belt.
- 1:10:38Speaker 3: Oh, my God. Really?
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: I told you. I knew that's where I knew him from.
- 1:10:41Speaker 2: Because that's like one of the first things I remember
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: seeing him in that he wasn't James Bond. He was
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: absolutely known. Yeah. Casino Royale came out 2006. Quantum of Solace, 2008.
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: 2011 for Cowboys and Aliens.
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: Wow.
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: Nine years ago.
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: Wow.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: A long time ago.
- 1:10:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. Time Machine Part 2. Every day we're
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: going through the time machine around here. So, yeah. There
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: you go. I don't know that I.
- 1:11:14Speaker 5: If it came out today, if Battle of the Planets
- 1:11:18Speaker 5: came out today, I probably would not watch it.
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: See, that's the other thing I was going to ask.
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: Is it something that we only liked because we were
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: at that point in our childhood? And if they made
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: Essentially the same thing now. Would you want nothing to
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: do with it?
- 1:11:32Speaker 5: If they made a modern 2020 version of the Great
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: Space Coaster, I might watch that. recast and you know we're.
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: On board for the great space coaster yeah.
- 1:11:46Speaker 5: I mean i just don't know that i could get
- 1:11:48Speaker 5: behind the battle of planets as a but you like.
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: Science fiction it's essentially i mean they're flying a spaceship
- 1:11:55Speaker 2: they've got superpowers kind.
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: Of they make a robot and a super bad guy
- 1:11:58Speaker 3: they make a robot yeah they.
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: Don't have superpowers though it's i mean they're superhero ish
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: They've got their own, like, weapon and cool outfits.
- 1:12:07Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah. Jason's got, like, throwing stars.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: Yeah, they're kind of ninja-like. That's cool.
- 1:12:12Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: So, we like all these elements. So, what is it
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: that doesn't come together in this new version?
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: I wonder what you feed them to keep the sparrows
- 1:12:21Speaker 3: away from your bird feeder. To go back to the
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: bird feeder story.
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: Grandma, get off the mic. So, yeah.
- 1:12:29Speaker 5: You know, like, what would make it a success?
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: Like, if you look at... movies like Pacific Rim, right? Okay.
- 1:12:39Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that was successful. I still don't
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: think that's well done. I loved that movie.
- 1:12:44Speaker 3: I loved that.
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: But certainly not the second one. You don't like characters.
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: Certainly not the second one. It wasn't about the characters.
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: And I agree with you. There aren't any characters.
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: I agree with you.
- 1:12:51Speaker 5: There were no characters.
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: There aren't. But the whole point.
- 1:12:54Speaker 5: Was that it was just like, these archetypes that get
- 1:12:58Speaker 5: into machines.
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: It was basically just for fighting. Yeah. Robots and monsters.
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: Battle giant monsters. That I can get on board with. Cool, right?
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: Those scenes were awesome. That's essentially Godzilla.
- 1:13:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:13:09Speaker 2: So, I mean, that's really what Battle of the Plants are.
- 1:13:12Speaker 5: If you want it to be successful, as I am promoting.
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: You would have character development and unknown actors.
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: No, no, no.
- 1:13:22Speaker 2: Again, it depends on how you're using the term successfully.
- 1:13:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I want the big giant robot.
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: Successful as in making money or if you want it
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: to be good. Let me rephrase. If you wanted it
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: to be a good movie. Okay. One that I would enjoy.
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: It would never get made.
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: Art House Battle of the Planets. Right.
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. I can admit that. Like something you've never
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: heard of that you scroll up on, not even Netflix,
- 1:13:45Speaker 2: because they wouldn't care. It'd be on the public library system.
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: And it'd be like this cool Art House sci-fi story.
- 1:13:52Speaker 2: And you're like, what is this?
- 1:13:54Speaker 3: What if it was a Tarantino film?
- 1:13:56Speaker 2: Can't it be, by the way?
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: Well, okay, so we've stopped on this, but what else
- 1:14:00Speaker 3: do you have? Because we'll all agree to disagree.
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: I mean, I don't have a ton of other... That's, like,
- 1:14:05Speaker 2: it was all just, like, Mark... You can throw out
- 1:14:08Speaker 2: the Ansel Eldort and the.
- 1:14:12Speaker 2: Charlie Depew, I don't know. He's on Mad Men, which
- 1:14:15Speaker 2: I didn't really watch. But he looks... But he's still
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: old now. Eh, 24. That's old to you.
- 1:14:20Speaker 4: Really?
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: That's old to me.
- 1:14:22Speaker 3: That's not old to me. No, it's old to me.
- 1:14:25Speaker 2: But, yeah, most of the others, I don't know. They're just...
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: The only other one I can't, because again, I couldn't
- 1:14:31Speaker 2: find really anybody for Tiny. The best option, and again,
- 1:14:35Speaker 2: this only involves time travel. If you could have cast
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: an early season Parks and Rec era Chris Pratt, that
- 1:14:45Speaker 2: would be perfect.
- 1:14:46Speaker 3: I can't with a Chris Pratt.
- 1:14:48Speaker 2: Now I can't. Now I have issues with him as
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: a weird person that he's become, but... Early era, he
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: was a big dude. He wasn't... Was he a weird person?
- 1:14:56Speaker 3: Again, he wasn't... Yeah.
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: We won't even go there. More power to him, he
- 1:15:00Speaker 2: can have fun in his life. I don't care. I
- 1:15:02Speaker 2: don't know what that is. But he looked more the part.
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: Before he got to be a superhero and got to
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: be like a super buff and... Yeah, he was a
- 1:15:10Speaker 2: mouse rat. Mouse rat. Got to be leading man, he
- 1:15:13Speaker 2: was a weird dude that probably could have played Tiny
- 1:15:15Speaker 2: pretty good. So that's the best option I came up
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: with for Tiny.
- 1:15:17Speaker 3: You know, so if we're going with weird people that
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: you would pick on your realm... of things, Paul.
- 1:15:23Speaker 2: Art house. On your art house, you know what I
- 1:15:25Speaker 2: would pick? I love it. I love it.
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: For tiny, I would pick like one of the world's
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: strongest man dudes because I have an obsession with that.
- 1:15:32Speaker 2: Okay.
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: But also unknown and also giant and strong.
- 1:15:36Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 1:15:36Speaker 3: And that's the point. Like he's like just muscle.
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: I think that's a great idea. That's a great idea.
- 1:15:40Speaker 2: And it would show up on the comment network and that's.
- 1:15:44Speaker 5: It would be the only, it would be right next
- 1:15:46Speaker 5: to Mars Needs Women and.
- 1:15:49Speaker 3: Not the guy from Game of Thrones. Maybe that British dude.
- 1:15:53Speaker 3: Who's like super annoying.
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: Yes. The one Brit.
- 1:15:57Speaker 3: Yeah. The one Brit.
- 1:15:58Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:15:59Speaker 5: So yeah, I think, I don't know. I, I, my
- 1:16:05Speaker 5: position for anything that we talk about is going to be,
- 1:16:09Speaker 5: what am I going to want to watch? Not what's
- 1:16:13Speaker 5: going to be accepted by the industry. Cause I don't
- 1:16:16Speaker 5: know that I care about the industry at all, but,
- 1:16:19Speaker 5: I want to see... I want to be entertained, damn it.
- 1:16:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too.
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: But what if they pick a bunch of unknowns who
- 1:16:29Speaker 2: aren't good actors? Just making them unknowns isn't the right choice.
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: You have to find the right... That is always a risk.
- 1:16:36Speaker 2: I know. That is always a risk, but it's a
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: risk I'm willing to take. But it definitely takes off
- 1:16:41Speaker 2: the table all the extra baggage. So I agree with that.
- 1:16:46Speaker 2: It's a balancing act, sure. I agree. I agree with that.
- 1:16:49Speaker 5: But, you know, you got to go for it. You
- 1:16:52Speaker 5: got to go for it. You got to take the
- 1:16:54Speaker 5: risk if you want the big payoff. I mean, look
- 1:16:57Speaker 5: at Star Wars, for example.
- 1:16:58Speaker 2: We're writing this screenplay now. Start the casting. But there
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: was a risk. They had unknown actors.
- 1:17:05Speaker 3: Don't hit the table.
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: Sorry.
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: You're making too much racket.
- 1:17:08Speaker 2: Too much racket.
- 1:17:08Speaker 3: Too much racket.
- 1:17:09Speaker 2: Unknown actors had to take the risk. But they also, like,
- 1:17:11Speaker 2: that casting call was anybody in the city at that point. Like,
- 1:17:15Speaker 2: you can go back and see, like, every up-and-coming actor
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: in the world. That just proves my point. That just
- 1:17:20Speaker 2: proves my point.
- 1:17:20Speaker 3: Like the old Starry Night Live sketch.
- 1:17:23Speaker 2: But they literally, like, you're sitting there with.
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: Who was the other? Oh, Kurt Russell. You know, like
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: Kurt Russell reading off the Han Solo lines. Oh my gosh.
- 1:17:31Speaker 5: Can you imagine if Kurt Russell had been Han Solo?
- 1:17:36Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, I can. What was that movie that.
- 1:17:38Speaker 5: He did where he was basically, him and his wife
- 1:17:42Speaker 5: were being harassed by a truck driver?
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: Do you remember that movie? Breakdown?
- 1:17:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:17:46Speaker 2: That's what it is. I don't even think I watched that.
- 1:17:49Speaker 2: It's sad that I still have the title in my head.
- 1:17:51Speaker 5: I mean- You know, and it's sort of like a
- 1:17:56Speaker 5: demented version of The Hitcher, you know, which is weird.
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: Yeah, I love The Hitcher. I thought The Hitcher was great.
- 1:18:02Speaker 2: The original Hitcher is pretty awesome. Wasn't that Rutger Hauer?
- 1:18:05Speaker 2: Rutger Hauer is an amazing actor.
- 1:18:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: And C. Thomas Howe is pretty cool. Yeah, C. Thomas Howe, right.
- 1:18:13Speaker 5: I forgot he was in that. I was probably maybe,
- 1:18:16Speaker 5: I don't know, 14 whenever I saw that movie.
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: Not supposed to be watching it. And watching it and
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: thinking it was awesome.
- 1:18:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:18:22Speaker 2: Just like I was. My cousin was making.
- 1:18:25Speaker 5: What was he making? He was making screwdrivers and we were.
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: This explains a lot. Watching The Hitcher. Oh my God.
- 1:18:35Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
- 1:18:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:18:38Speaker 2: Great film.
- 1:18:38Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: But see... No, no. See.
- 1:18:42Speaker 5: see Thomas how what he was in he was already
- 1:18:45Speaker 5: coming off the Outsiders. Was he in Taps?
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: He's definitely in E.T. He's one of the friends in E.T.
- 1:18:52Speaker 6: That's right.
- 1:18:53Speaker 2: He already had his end. Yeah. And Ricker Hauer was
- 1:18:58Speaker 2: obviously well-known.
- 1:18:58Speaker 3: I just had a genius idea because I stepped away.
- 1:19:01Speaker 3: So if you imagine it's a career swap, so if
- 1:19:05Speaker 3: Kurt Russell had gotten that part- Imagine Kurt Russell in
- 1:19:08Speaker 3: every Harrison Ford part ever after.
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: Oh.
- 1:19:11Speaker 3: And imagine Harrison Ford in every Kurt Russell part.
- 1:19:13Speaker 2: They're not far. Like, that's the thing. Like, they're not
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: far off as actors. Stop doing that. I'm so sorry.
- 1:19:21Speaker 2: But they're not far off in acting, really. Like, they
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: have a different approach, a different style, but it's not
- 1:19:27Speaker 2: massively wrong. But you also have to Just.
- 1:19:30Speaker 3: Flip Harrison Ford into Kurt Russell.
- 1:19:32Speaker 2: Harrison Ford in Big Trouble in Little China.
- 1:19:35Speaker 3: Exactly! And then Kurt Russell in Witness.
- 1:19:39Speaker 2: Oh my god. That's just weird. It's an easier move
- 1:19:43Speaker 2: to shove Kurt Russell into Harrison Ford parts. I don't know.
- 1:19:47Speaker 2: That Witness role is kind of strange.
- 1:19:49Speaker 3: That would be weird.
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: That would be real weird.
- 1:19:54Speaker 3: And Harrison Ford in Big Trouble in Little China. Well,
- 1:19:57Speaker 3: that might not be so weird. But definitely Escape from
- 1:20:00Speaker 3: New York and Escape from L.A.
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: Would be a weird one. And Overboard.
- 1:20:04Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: But I mean, he did his weird... What's the one
- 1:20:10Speaker 2: with him and.
- 1:20:12Speaker 3: Working Girl? Kurt Russell and Working Girl? Imagine that.
- 1:20:15Speaker 2: Okay, maybe. I could watch all of these, actually. This
- 1:20:20Speaker 2: is not a terrible game.
- 1:20:21Speaker 3: This is a great idea.
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: That's a great idea. Face swap. Or Face Off. That's
- 1:20:27Speaker 2: what it is. The Face Off version of movies. All right.
- 1:20:31Speaker 2: We found a whole new running theme to come back with.
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: There we go. Oh, my God.
- 1:20:34Speaker 3: And you can face swap people. It would be so
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: fun to take that and put scenes of, oh, that's
- 1:20:40Speaker 3: a good one.
- 1:20:41Speaker 2: I want his face off.
- 1:20:43Speaker 3: I'm off.
- 1:20:45Speaker 4: Off.
- 1:20:45Speaker 2: Faced. Now I'm just thinking of a young Harrison Ford
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: getting his start in all those wacky Disney movies. Yeah.
- 1:20:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: Interesting.
- 1:20:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:20:56Speaker 2: Was he in Escape from Witch Mountain?
- 1:20:58Speaker 3: Yeah. Wasn't he?
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: I don't think so.
- 1:20:59Speaker 3: No.
- 1:20:59Speaker 2: Oh, I thought he was. That was the one. That
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: was the kids. The little kids. Was he the thing
- 1:21:02Speaker 2: with the cat? That was the rock. Was he the
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: thing with the cat?
- 1:21:04Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
- 1:21:04Speaker 3: That was the rock?
- 1:21:06Speaker 2: Everything is the rock. Everything was the rock. See, that's
- 1:21:08Speaker 2: the go-to. Why didn't we make him Mark? I was
- 1:21:11Speaker 2: thinking that. I was like, if we're going really big
- 1:21:13Speaker 2: budget- Mark is leading the team as The Rock. Scarlett Johansson.
- 1:21:17Speaker 3: Scarlett Johansson.
- 1:21:18Speaker 2: Seth Rogen wisecracking through the rest of it. Yeah, we
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: got all this piece together.
- 1:21:23Speaker 3: Robert Downey Jr. is key up.
- 1:21:28Speaker 2: I'd pay to see that. Let's be real. So, what
- 1:21:32Speaker 2: is our takeaway on this casting call?
- 1:21:35Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like, I guess the thing is,
- 1:21:38Speaker 3: it doesn't matter because... No one will care. And our
- 1:21:46Speaker 3: concept of what that's supposed to be is so incredibly varied.
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: And the reason.
- 1:21:50Speaker 3: Like you have the realistic view. Paul has the idealistic view.
- 1:21:54Speaker 3: And I've got.
- 1:21:54Speaker 2: And you've got a dumb mainstream view.
- 1:21:56Speaker 3: The dumb mainstream view.
- 1:21:57Speaker 2: Which is fine to me. And none of them would
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: work out probably. And none of them would work.
- 1:22:02Speaker 3: We'd have like a bomb or something that people would
- 1:22:05Speaker 3: love in 20 years.
- 1:22:06Speaker 5: But it doesn't matter view is also the idealistic view.
- 1:22:11Speaker 2: It does not matter. No, no, no.
- 1:22:13Speaker 3: You have the idealistic view of, I thought that's what
- 1:22:15Speaker 3: I said.
- 1:22:16Speaker 2: You did.
- 1:22:17Speaker 3: Okay. I was like, I didn't say it doesn't matter.
- 1:22:20Speaker 3: I said idealistic.
- 1:22:21Speaker 2: Your thoughts don't matter. No, no, no.
- 1:22:22Speaker 5: Before that, you said it doesn't really matter who you cast.
- 1:22:26Speaker 5: And I agree.
- 1:22:27Speaker 2: It does not matter.
- 1:22:28Speaker 5: In the end, it does matter in that you have
- 1:22:32Speaker 5: to sell the story, obviously.
- 1:22:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:22:35Speaker 2: But you know but there.
- 1:22:36Speaker 3: Were some compelling creepy weird stories in those things were
- 1:22:41Speaker 3: there yeah.
- 1:22:43Speaker 2: As i remember them but again my brain is pretty
- 1:22:46Speaker 2: foggy that far back so everything i remember is just.
- 1:22:50Speaker 3: There were very many forgettable ones but there were moments
- 1:22:53Speaker 3: of like that's creepy.
- 1:22:55Speaker 5: I mean i remember the i remember snippets the phoenix
- 1:22:59Speaker 5: and the fucking computer thing.
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: No, like there's whole story lines that I remember that
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: I found exceptionally like.
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: Well, now we're going to have to revisit it. I'm
- 1:23:07Speaker 2: going to have to watch it again. I thought we did.
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: When you write the screenplay, you're going to watch some
- 1:23:12Speaker 2: old episodes and then you got to piece this together.
- 1:23:14Speaker 2: I think that's, I mean, not just the takeaway from this,
- 1:23:17Speaker 2: but I say it all the time about every movie.
- 1:23:20Speaker 2: It's all a crapshoot. Like, no matter if you have
- 1:23:23Speaker 2: a huge budget and the biggest, most talented actors in
- 1:23:26Speaker 2: the world, it could still fall on its face. Or
- 1:23:29Speaker 2: maybe you're just scrapping and put together some weird indie movie,
- 1:23:33Speaker 2: but you did the right things along the way and
- 1:23:35Speaker 2: you got just the right things fell into place that
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: it got made and got out there. You never know.
- 1:23:41Speaker 3: Right. And I think some of those things don't matter
- 1:23:43Speaker 3: if you're telling... Because you're just telling the same story
- 1:23:47Speaker 3: over and over again. Like it's the Joseph Campbell.
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: Let me throw this out there. And to your point,
- 1:23:56Speaker 2: it doesn't matter.
- 1:23:57Speaker 5: Well, what is important is that the people that are
- 1:24:02Speaker 5: involved have to care.
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: About the story. That's always the case. Yes. And not
- 1:24:07Speaker 2: always is what's going on in filmmaking. That should always
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: be the way anything is made.
- 1:24:12Speaker 3: I don't think that is the case.
- 1:24:13Speaker 2: That is not the case for a lot of movies.
- 1:24:15Speaker 2: I agree.
- 1:24:16Speaker 5: But if it's going to be a good and be successful,
- 1:24:24Speaker 5: they have to care.
- 1:24:25Speaker 3: Wait a minute. So here's like a weird old reference
- 1:24:28Speaker 3: that always gets talked about. About movies of people who cared. No,
- 1:24:32Speaker 3: not about me.
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: Tell me it's Time Machine.
- 1:24:34Speaker 4: No. Okay.
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: No.
- 1:24:37Speaker 3: And huge budgets. Or Time After Time. Was that, what, Sahara?
- 1:24:42Speaker 2: All right. So that was like a huge- Matthew McConaughey?
- 1:24:45Speaker 3: No, no, no, no.
- 1:24:46Speaker 2: Which is the one from- Ishtar.
- 1:24:47Speaker 3: Ishtar, thank you.
- 1:24:49Speaker 2: That is not the same movie. Not 70s, but- 80s, whatever.
- 1:24:53Speaker 4: 80s, 80s.
- 1:24:53Speaker 3: But it was people, it was decent actors, people who cared.
- 1:24:56Speaker 3: And there's things that should work on paper and work.
- 1:24:59Speaker 3: Because all the things are there.
- 1:25:01Speaker 2: I think you can go through that every year. I know,
- 1:25:03Speaker 2: I know. You can go through the January issue of
- 1:25:07Speaker 2: the upcoming movies for the year and be like, this
- 1:25:10Speaker 2: is going to be great. And then watch it and
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: be like, the hell happened? That was terrible.
- 1:25:14Speaker 3: But there's always people that are very involved in care
- 1:25:16Speaker 3: and whatever. And things just turn out like shit. But
- 1:25:19Speaker 3: there's things that people don't care about.
- 1:25:21Speaker 2: That's the crapshoot part of it. That was awesome.
- 1:25:23Speaker 5: In my mind, there's always this invisible threshold that you always...
- 1:25:28Speaker 5: pass right because because you got like these actors that
- 1:25:33Speaker 5: you have to wrangle and you have the writers that
- 1:25:36Speaker 5: you have to wrangle and mold or maybe the reverse
- 1:25:40Speaker 5: is happening and you've got the crew and you've got
- 1:25:43Speaker 5: uh the director who ultimately when it gets down to
- 1:25:47Speaker 5: editing they have to decide if if there's enough there
- 1:25:51Speaker 5: really to make it work and if there isn't There
- 1:25:55Speaker 5: you go.
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: I would say that we're all in agreement that editing makes.
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: Well, it's at the end of the process. It can
- 1:26:01Speaker 2: make or break the process.
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: Right.
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: Because that's the thing. You've got people that you hear
- 1:26:05Speaker 2: stories later like, the director really didn't even do a
- 1:26:07Speaker 2: great job of doing what they needed to do but
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: they had a great editor that fished through everything and
- 1:26:13Speaker 2: went oh i can salvage this movie right and vice
- 1:26:16Speaker 2: versa you've got people that shot this wonderful project and
- 1:26:19Speaker 2: then handed it to an editor that didn't know what
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: the hell they were doing and you.
- 1:26:21Speaker 5: Watch and i would say the reverse going on the
- 1:26:24Speaker 5: reverse is also true if you had like a um
- 1:26:27Speaker 5: a great director and a terrible editor but that's.
- 1:26:30Speaker 3: Rare i think you have a lot of great there's
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: more great editors.
- 1:26:34Speaker 2: Well I don't know. I don't know.
- 1:26:37Speaker 5: But, you know, it's... It would be... It's tricky either way.
- 1:26:43Speaker 5: It's tricky either way.
- 1:26:44Speaker 2: It's always tricky.
- 1:26:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. It's all a crapshoot. Yeah. Even
- 1:26:49Speaker 2: if you've got everything in your corner, it doesn't mean
- 1:26:51Speaker 2: it's going to work out right.
- 1:26:52Speaker 3: Right. So I went to a... Like a... I don't
- 1:26:56Speaker 3: know what it was. Because I was young and an idiot.
- 1:26:59Speaker 2: Is this a cult you were abducted by? No.
- 1:27:01Speaker 3: So when I lived in LA, I got to go
- 1:27:03Speaker 3: to like... viewings of things and you go into a
- 1:27:06Speaker 3: room that's probably this size and has a screen that's
- 1:27:09Speaker 3: that big and you have to talk about it and
- 1:27:11Speaker 3: like fill out things.
- 1:27:12Speaker 2: The focus group.
- 1:27:13Speaker 3: The focus group.
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:27:15Speaker 3: And I went with a writer for like the LA
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: Times and it was for Little Voice which was a
- 1:27:22Speaker 3: great movie and I never know to this day because
- 1:27:24Speaker 3: I was so naive like where I was in that
- 1:27:26Speaker 3: process because I'm pretty sure what I saw was what
- 1:27:30Speaker 3: came out but like that You know, it was interesting
- 1:27:36Speaker 3: because my friend was like, okay, so we go to
- 1:27:37Speaker 3: these things and we watch them and you get to
- 1:27:40Speaker 3: do like a focus thing. And it was like, well,
- 1:27:42Speaker 3: I think that's the same movie that I ended up
- 1:27:43Speaker 3: seeing when it actually came out.
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: So you didn't affect it at all. It was a
- 1:27:47Speaker 2: great movie. You really should have pushed a little more
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: to get your change in there. To get.
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: I don't even know who was the star at the time.
- 1:27:56Speaker 4: Really?
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: I want to put Harrison Ford in this movie.
- 1:27:58Speaker 5: The important takeaway was that you were in your 20s
- 1:28:01Speaker 5: with disposable income.
- 1:28:03Speaker 3: No.
- 1:28:03Speaker 2: No, I wasn't.
- 1:28:04Speaker 3: I had no disposable income at all my rent.
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: It was probably free, too.
- 1:28:08Speaker 3: It was free.
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: Yeah. That's not what I mean.
- 1:28:11Speaker 3: No.
- 1:28:11Speaker 5: You were the right demographic to view it.
- 1:28:14Speaker 3: Well, but my friend was 10 years older than me.
- 1:28:18Speaker 3: But it was like, or 15. But I was like, oh, wow,
- 1:28:21Speaker 3: this is awesome. So we did that a couple more times,
- 1:28:23Speaker 3: and I was like, What is this thing that we're doing?
- 1:28:26Speaker 3: I was dumb. I had a great time.
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: That's our takeaway.
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: And that was the first time I ever went to
- 1:28:32Speaker 3: see a movie.
- 1:28:32Speaker 5: I have a hard time believing you were dumb.
- 1:28:34Speaker 3: I was pretty dumb. But that was the first time
- 1:28:37Speaker 3: I ever found the joy of going to a movie online.
- 1:28:40Speaker 3: own because I didn't know anyone there. And the two
- 1:28:42Speaker 3: people that I knew who I wanted to go see
- 1:28:46Speaker 3: a movie and they were like, meh. And I was like, well,
- 1:28:48Speaker 3: I'll just go by myself. And I was like, going
- 1:28:50Speaker 3: to a movie by yourself is awesome.
- 1:28:53Speaker 2: This is the only way I've seen movies.
- 1:28:54Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: All right, so there you go. Are we stopping? We've
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: put all this together.
- 1:29:01Speaker 3: Oh.
- 1:29:03Speaker 2: So we've learned so much in this process and come
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: to no conclusion. Thanks for going along on this journey.
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: I want to know what other people would cast as that.
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: There you go. Write in. Let us know who your
- 1:29:16Speaker 2: casting choices are for this and probably upcoming. We assigned
- 1:29:22Speaker 2: ourselves a couple of these casting games. So, yeah, we
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: will come back and do at least one more. But
- 1:29:30Speaker 2: let's hear what your thoughts are for, for now, the
- 1:29:33Speaker 2: Battle of the Planets movie that has not been made.
- 1:29:35Speaker 5: And also, if you have a great face-off, actor face
- 1:29:39Speaker 5: swap scenario that you'd like to run by.
- 1:29:42Speaker 2: Of who you want to see. Or you'd like us
- 1:29:43Speaker 2: to elaborate on. I definitely want to hear about that.
- 1:29:45Speaker 2: I want to hear about that. We can come back
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: and do entire episodes just recapping the swaps.
- 1:29:50Speaker 3: It's not a face swap. It's a career swap. Career swap.
- 1:29:53Speaker 3: You have to take the whole thing.
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: Career swap.
- 1:29:55Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:29:55Speaker 4: All right.
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: Career off.
- 1:29:56Speaker 5: But we're calling it face off.
- 1:29:57Speaker 3: Career off.
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: Career off. All right. So we'll be back with that
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: and so much more.
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: Thank you.
- 1:30:07Speaker 2: Otherwise, that about does it. We will return next time.
- 1:30:09Speaker 2: Same geek feed. Thanks for listening.
- 1:30:41Speaker 4: The whole galaxy is watching. This is the Universal Jam.
- 1:30:53Speaker 4: It's the battle of the planets. You'll see again. A
- 1:31:33Speaker 4: planetary device I know you're going to throw down Get
- 1:31:39Speaker 4: ready with your syncopated moves To the computerized sound Of
- 1:31:49Speaker 4: the same other space mobs Every year since time began
- 1:32:01Speaker 4: Listen to this man.
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: Sound, sound.
- 1:33:39Speaker 3: Don't be silly, Keop. There's no water on Mars.
- 1:33:42Speaker 2: Now I have to think what the, uh... Again, my
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: brain's going as the old man that I am. See?
- 1:33:47Speaker 2: I mean, you're roughly the same age as me and
- 1:33:50Speaker 2: Mel Brooks.
- 1:33:50Speaker 3: Oh!
- 1:33:50Speaker 2: So, mm-hmm. It doesn't take much.
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