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Bonus Episode: The Count Who Killed Jim Morrison? · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey, discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life,
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Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. Yeah me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, the after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to get from one full episode
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Speaker 1: of Disgraceland to the other. The backyard, to dig into
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Speaker 1: the dirt, our mission to uncover the truth, to confront
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Speaker 1: the myth, to reclaim the story. On this bonus episode
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Speaker 1: was a mysterious count responsible for the deaths of Jim
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Speaker 1: Morrison and Janis Joplin. Who's Gerdo? And the Mary Tyler
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Speaker 1: Moore Show, What New Song recommendations and more old song
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Speaker 1: Italian Disco Don't Blame Me? Plus your voicemails, text emails,
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Speaker 1: calm dms, and as always a whole lot of Rosie.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast for the musically obsessed, the outsiders,
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Speaker 1: the independent thinkers who know that the best history is
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Speaker 1: the history that gets buried. Disgraceland is where I tell
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Speaker 1: the stories they didn't want told, the kind you'll end
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Speaker 1: up telling someone else. All right, this goes. Let's get
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Speaker 1: into it, all right, disc goes. Listen, my hair is
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Speaker 1: on fire. This morning, as I'm putting together this after
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Speaker 1: party bonus episode for you, I woke up thinking about
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Speaker 1: Taylor Hawkins and the fact that we still don't have
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Speaker 1: an official cause of death for the iconic drummer, as
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Speaker 1: discussed in our recent episode on the Foo Fighters. And
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Speaker 1: so I made myself an espresso, I popped on my
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Speaker 1: noise canceling headphones, crawled back into bed with my laptop though,
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Speaker 1: and I googled famous rock stars with unknown causes of death,
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Speaker 1: and surprise, there are literally none, zilch, not a zero.
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Speaker 1: But I don't want to beat a dead horse. I
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Speaker 1: want to beat an entirely different horse, actually horse as
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Speaker 1: an h as an heroin. So somehow that Google search
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Speaker 1: that led me into this Jim Morrison wormhole. Now I know,
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Speaker 1: well trodden territory over here for us at disgrace in
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Speaker 1: a new horse on a beaten path, so to speak.
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Speaker 1: But really what I found is fascinating. I think I
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Speaker 1: knew I think I knew this. I think I knew
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Speaker 1: that there was never an autopsy for Jim Morrison. And
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, I knew that it was close casket,
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Speaker 1: and that the burial happened super quick after Jim died,
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Speaker 1: and that his family had little to do with the
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Speaker 1: final arrangements. And none of these facts are all that
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Speaker 1: revelatory or shocking on their own, and they're all used
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Speaker 1: as fodder for the conspiracy theorists who claimed that Jim
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Speaker 1: Morrison faked his own death, that the heroin overdose never happened,
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Speaker 1: and that Jim you pretended to off himself so that
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Speaker 1: he could or pretended to die, I should say, so
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Speaker 1: that he could live in peace. He's outside of the
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Speaker 1: glare of fame and retire and live the quiet life
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Speaker 1: of a poet in the French countryside or whatever, and
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Speaker 1: no longer have to live the loud, drunk, drug addicted
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Speaker 1: rock star life that he was living. But here's the thing,
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Speaker 1: I didn't really realize until now, Or maybe I did
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Speaker 1: and I just forgot, or I just let this fact
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Speaker 1: exist in plain sight and I ignored it, or maybe
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Speaker 1: I just bought the line of bullshit that had been
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Speaker 1: fed to me, to all of us anyways, until now,
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Speaker 1: that Jim Morrison died from a heroin overdose. Because here's
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Speaker 1: the thing. Jim Morrison didn't use heroin, or at least
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Speaker 1: many of his friends were counted over the years about
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Speaker 1: how Jim hated the drug and that he actively spoke
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Speaker 1: out against using heroin in the company of his friends,
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Speaker 1: and that he hated the fact that his girlfriend Pamela
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Speaker 1: Corson aka Pamela Morrison she wasn't really his wife common
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Speaker 1: law wife somehow, sometimes I went by Pamela Corson, sometimes
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Speaker 1: by Pamela Morrison. I'll probably probably refer to her as
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Speaker 1: both in the course of this episode. Anyhow, he hated
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Speaker 1: that his girlfriend pam actively used heroin and that this
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Speaker 1: was a subject her heroin use was a subject, a
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Speaker 1: common subject of disagreement between the two between the couple.
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Speaker 1: This is pretty interesting. So Jim Morrison supposedly dies of
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Speaker 1: a heroin overdose, but he didn't use heroin. Obviously, this
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Speaker 1: doesn't prove anything. Doesn't prove that Jim Morrison, I guess,
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Speaker 1: didn't die from heroin, they didn't take heroin, that they
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Speaker 1: didn't die into Paris bathtub. Jim Morrison could of course
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Speaker 1: just tried heroin and died. Of course, his official cause
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Speaker 1: of death heart failure. The sort of understood to be
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Speaker 1: cause of death for Jim Morrison heroin overdose, but for
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Speaker 1: a guy who didn't use heroin anyhow, following this line
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Speaker 1: of thinking, following this little bit of research I was
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Speaker 1: doing this morning, if he were to do this, it
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Speaker 1: would inevitably bring you to a fascinating character from the
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Speaker 1: late nineteen sixties and early seventies jet set, a friend
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Speaker 1: not of Morrison's, but of his girlfriend Pam's, and also
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Speaker 1: a friend of Graham Parsons and a friend of Janis Joplin,
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Speaker 1: Keith Richards and Marianne Faithful and Miss Mercy from the GTOs,
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Speaker 1: and a whole lot of other famous rock stars who
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Speaker 1: regularly used heroin. This guy was their buddy, their pal,
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Speaker 1: their friend, and some of these folks died from heroin.
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Speaker 1: That friend was a French aristocrat, an actual count, a
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Speaker 1: handsome jet setting playboy in his early twenties named damn It, Matt,
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Speaker 1: I lost your text messages. Okay, this guy's name. I
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Speaker 1: texted Matt this morning at like seven thirty in the morning.
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Speaker 1: Because Matt, Matt's French, or at least understands French better
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Speaker 1: than I do. To get a correct pronunciation, I want
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Speaker 1: to butcher it here and then Matt, you can you
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Speaker 1: can correct me. I'm only going to say his name
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Speaker 1: once or twice here, Count Jean des bruteul bruteul Okay,
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Speaker 1: the Count, all right, listen, I've read about the Count before.
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Speaker 1: I nearly forgot about the Count though. Okay, the Count
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Speaker 1: came up in research for our Jim Morrison season of
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Speaker 1: The twenty seven Club that we that we produced a
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Speaker 1: couple of years back, and I made a mental note
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Speaker 1: to do more research on the Count eventually, which I
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Speaker 1: never did until now by accident. Now, the Count, the
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Speaker 1: Count here is shadowy. The Count is glamorous. The Count
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Speaker 1: is like Jim and Janie and Jim's girlfriend Pam dead.
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Speaker 1: The Count was also Jim's girlfriend's boyfriend. And the Count
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Speaker 1: was the supplier of high grade heroin to the stars
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Speaker 1: in the sixties and the seventies. And the Count may
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Speaker 1: have not only inadvertently killed Jim Morrison, but also Janis
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Speaker 1: Joplin as well. So check this out. The Count was
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Speaker 1: a good looking, rich aristocrat in his early twenties. His
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Speaker 1: family had a literal fortune. His father's businesses were located
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Speaker 1: in Africa, so the young Count had diplomatic connections in Morocco.
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Speaker 1: Morocco in the nineteen sixties was a hotbed of drug trafficking,
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Speaker 1: specifically the trafficking of hashish and heroin, to drugs that
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Speaker 1: many many rock stars were hyper fixated on in the
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Speaker 1: late nineteen sixties and early nineteen seventies. Now not only
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Speaker 1: was the Count tied into diplomats and drug traffickers in Morocco,
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Speaker 1: he was also, as part of the jet set, tied
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Speaker 1: into many individuals from the Paris Again he was French
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Speaker 1: and London. Again, he was a count high societies. Now
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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven, the Count enrolled at UCLA, all
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Speaker 1: right in California, in Los Angeles, Okay, But UCLA did
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Speaker 1: not have access to good drugs at the time, so
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Speaker 1: the Count fixed that he started moving pounds of hashish
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Speaker 1: through the Moroccan consulate into Los Angeles to his campus apartment. Now,
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Speaker 1: the hash and apparently the Count's good looks and money
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Speaker 1: attracted young women. One of them was a girl named
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Speaker 1: Pamela Corson. A woman named Pamela Corson, and the two
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Speaker 1: began seeing each other. And even though pam was seeing
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Speaker 1: the new singer for the Doors, one of the hottest
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Speaker 1: bands at the time, his name being, of course, Jim Morrison.
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Speaker 1: Now Jim hated the Count, and Jim he hated the
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Speaker 1: Count's heroin. But Pam she dug the Count, and you know,
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Speaker 1: to be honest, she liked this heroin too. Jim got
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Speaker 1: drunk and yelled, Pam got high and took off with
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Speaker 1: the Count Amrrakesh to Europe to hang out with Brian
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Speaker 1: Jones and Jimmy Hendricks. Pam and the Count would eventually
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Speaker 1: end up back in Los Angeles, and Pam would end
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Speaker 1: up back with Jim. But the Count kept slinging his
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Speaker 1: heroin the whole time, and in the fall of nineteen seventy,
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Speaker 1: the Count had a particularly strong batch of heroin. He
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Speaker 1: hooked up his friend Janis Joplin. He also hooked up
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Speaker 1: a musician named Mercy Fontino. I'm probably pronouncing that incorrectly.
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Speaker 1: She goes by Miss Mercy. She was from the GTOs, Yes,
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Speaker 1: Frank Zappa's GTOs. Okay. Miss Mercy felt herself slipping into
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Speaker 1: a drug coma when she used the Count's heroin, and
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Speaker 1: somehow she pulled herself out of it and survived this
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Speaker 1: bad batch. Now, this survival of the Count's bad batch
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Speaker 1: of Heroin happened on the exact same day that Janis
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Speaker 1: Joplin did. Not so the Count's bad batch. Okay, On
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Speaker 1: that day, October fourth, nineteen seventy, the Count hooked up
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Speaker 1: Janis Chropplin with Heroin, just like he did Miss Mercy
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Speaker 1: from the GTOs. Miss Mercy survived. Janis Joplin died on
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Speaker 1: October fourth, nineteen seventy. Miss Mercy lived and she gave
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Speaker 1: the rest of her batch of Heroin to her friend
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Speaker 1: Graham Parsons. Somehow Graham survived too, until he didn't in
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Speaker 1: overdosed and died later in nineteen seventy three. But back
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Speaker 1: to that weekend in nineteen seventy, the weekend that Janis
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Speaker 1: Joplin died. Over that weekend, nine other people who weren't
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Speaker 1: rock stars also died in the Los Angeles area from
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Speaker 1: heroin overdoses. Jimmy Hendricks had already died that year. Now
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Speaker 1: Janis Joplin was gone, and Jim Morrison was aware of
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Speaker 1: all of it. Okay. He was nursing his beer at
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Speaker 1: Bernie's Beanery in Hollywood, and he told his friends that
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Speaker 1: they were drinking with Number three. Jim Morrison didn't know it,
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Speaker 1: but his joke was dead on. Jim had one more
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Speaker 1: album to deliver to the record label. The album was
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Speaker 1: Once that album was done, Jim split to Paris to
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Speaker 1: meet Pam, who was already there hanging out with you
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Speaker 1: guessed it, the Count. Pam was in bad shape. She
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Speaker 1: and the Count were consumed with heroin. They were sunk
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Speaker 1: deep into the Paris underground with a whole assortment of
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Speaker 1: low life, high class junkies and deadbeats. Paris was drowning
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Speaker 1: in that French connection, intensely pure heroin, the same heroin
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Speaker 1: William Freakin would put at the center of his incredible
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Speaker 1: film The French Connection. This was the heroin that the
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Speaker 1: Count was dealing, and now the Count was counting Rolling
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Speaker 1: Stones as his customers, namely Grand Parsons's buddy Keith Richards.
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Speaker 1: Those two were also in France at the time at Nelcott,
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Speaker 1: while Keith was hiding out from British tax collectors and
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Speaker 1: making the Stones heroin induced masterpiece exile on Main Street.
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Speaker 1: Through his connections with the Rolling Stones, the Count started
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Speaker 1: seeing Mary Anne Faithful and the two wound up in
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Speaker 1: Paris in July nineteen seventy one where the Count went
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Speaker 1: to work slinging that friend connection heroin again in France
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Speaker 1: at the time in nineteen seventy one, You've got the Count,
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Speaker 1: Marianne Faithful, Pamela Corson, Jim Morrison, Keith Richards, Grand Parsons,
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Speaker 1: and the French connection. Now, on the night of July third,
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Speaker 1: mary Anne Faithful says that she was with the Count
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Speaker 1: in bed and they got a call in the middle
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Speaker 1: of the night from Pamela Corson again, Jim Morrison's girlfriend,
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Speaker 1: who at that moment was freaked out. Pamela absolutely needed
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Speaker 1: to see the Count, Okay. Now, Maryann Faithful, she was
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Speaker 1: stoked at this. She was psyched because she wanted to
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Speaker 1: meet the singer of the Doors. But the Count said
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Speaker 1: that that wasn't gonna happen and he split to go
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Speaker 1: rescue pam and he left mary Anne behind because Jim
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Speaker 1: Morrison was dead from heroin. The Count's heroin, according to
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Speaker 1: Marianne Faithful, anyways, from heroin that was most definitely yes,
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Speaker 1: the Count's. But here's the thing. Jim Morrison didn't use
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Speaker 1: heroin right, right, but he did use cocaine and the
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Speaker 1: French connection. Heroin was also called cotton candy because of
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Speaker 1: its light color a lot of heroin depending on how
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Speaker 1: it's cut, how its process is brown. The French connection
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Speaker 1: stuff was like a pinkish white. Jim Morrison, according to
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Speaker 1: those in the know, mistook his girlfriend's heroin for cocaine
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Speaker 1: and snorted too much of the incredibly pure drug and died.
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Speaker 1: Jim Morrison's girlfriend, who was also the girlfriend of the
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Speaker 1: most infamous heroin dealer in the music industry, who himself
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Speaker 1: the Count, died less than a year later of an overdose.
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Speaker 1: Maybe some suspect the Count did himself in over his guilt,
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Speaker 1: other suspect murder. We don't know. I'm looking to find
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Speaker 1: out sooner or later, though I'm telling you right now. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: back to our story. Pamela Morrison. She overdosed and died
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Speaker 1: a couple of years later, a couple of years after
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Speaker 1: the Count. And nearly everyone connected to this dude, everyone,
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Speaker 1: nearly everyone connected to the fucking Count guy, Pamela Morrison,
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Speaker 1: Janis Joplin, Some say Jimmy HENDRICKX, Jim Morrison, Graham Parsons
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Speaker 1: dead dead dead dead dead Mary unfaithful. She survived, and
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Speaker 1: she flat out accused her ex the Count of killing
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Speaker 1: Jim Morrison. The details around Jim Morrison's cause of death
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Speaker 1: are hazy, just like they are for Taylor Hawkins's death.
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Speaker 1: Completely different context, of course, but still you can see
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Speaker 1: some sort of rock and roll historical parallel here. We
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Speaker 1: don't know, we don't know how Taylor died, and I
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Speaker 1: don't think we know how Jim died. Really. Officially he
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Speaker 1: died of heart failure, unofficially of a heroin overdose. But again,
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Speaker 1: there was no autopsy. Did I say that earlier? I
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Speaker 1: probably should have. There is no autopsy, and there was
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Speaker 1: no history of Jim using heroin. There was, in fact,
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Speaker 1: a history of Jim hating heroin. The story this story,
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Speaker 1: not just the story of Jim Morrison's death, but the
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Speaker 1: story of the Count. It is fascinating and it is
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Speaker 1: coming in a full episode of the Disgrace m podcast soon,
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Speaker 1: probably in a Doors episode. I did one sat satirical
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Speaker 1: episode on Jim Morrison. I'm gonna do a Doors episode,
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Speaker 1: and this is gonna be my angle, and this is
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Speaker 1: gonna be most of the story, to be perfectly honest,
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Speaker 1: because this is just the surface and most of what
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Speaker 1: I just told you, I researched this morning. By researched,
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Speaker 1: I mean I read one People Magazine article. Incredibly, this
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Speaker 1: is all everything I just gave you is from a
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Speaker 1: People magazine article. Pretty much, not everything, but a good
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Speaker 1: portion of it. There's but there's a ton more out there,
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Speaker 1: and there's a lot more research I'm gonna do, and
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna put together an incredible story for you guys
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Speaker 1: in a full episode of Disgrace Slam that'll be coming
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Speaker 1: in a couple months. I guess it'll be a Doors episode,
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Speaker 1: all right. But before that, we're gonna dive a little
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Speaker 1: bit deeper into the count and more specifically into the
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Speaker 1: shady details behind Jim Morrison's death and the claims that
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Speaker 1: he wasn't a heroin user. In today's exclusive episode of
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Speaker 1: as we've been discussing our new episode on the Foo
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Speaker 1: Fighters now coming up right after this ONUS episode here
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Speaker 1: right after this in the rewind slot on Sunday, our
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Speaker 1: episode on b York and the dranged psychopath who wanted
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Speaker 1: set off an international scramble by the FBI in New
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Speaker 1: Scotland yard to save Byorke's life. You don't want to
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Speaker 1: miss this episode. And then next week on Tuesday, Tuesday
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Speaker 1: May fifth, we're releasing a new episode on Ian Watkins
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Speaker 1: for Lost Profits. And when you're listening to that episode,
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Speaker 1: be thinking about what story from music history has upset
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Speaker 1: you the most, because this might be it. This might
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Speaker 1: be the most upsetting story from any rock star we've covered.
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Speaker 1: This Ian Walkins story is so damn upsetting, not only
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Speaker 1: because of the horrendous crimes that this lost prophit singer
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Speaker 1: committed by also because some of these crimes could have
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Speaker 1: been prevented. So how upset were you when you learned
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Speaker 1: about the Ian Watkins crimes? But you know it can
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Speaker 1: be anything. What's the most angered you've ever been, most
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Speaker 1: angry you've ever been from news that you heard from
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Speaker 1: music history? Six one seven nine oh six six six
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to y'all. I want to hear
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Speaker 1: your thoughts on Taylor Hawkins and the Foo Fighters and
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Speaker 1: everything else that we got going on to Disgraceland. Unlikely
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Speaker 1: cover songs, more music, memoirs, whatever, new songs, old songs.
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Speaker 1: We're digging into all of it and more with your voicemails, texts, emails,
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Speaker 1: dms and more coming up right after this. All right,
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Speaker 1: me and Debbie Harry, we have escaped Ted Bundy'svolkswagen and
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Speaker 1: we are in the phone booth. It's the one across
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Speaker 1: the hall. Hanging on the telephone six one seven nine
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Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. Beth in the six
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Speaker 1: four six tell us about one of the Taylor Swift
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Speaker 1: creeps that you got living in your hometown.
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Speaker 2: Hey, this is Beth from the six six to two,
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Speaker 2: originally from the six four to six calling about a
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Speaker 2: few things. One the scandalous DJ from your Taylor Swift
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Speaker 2: episode lives in Mississippi and works in the supermarket after
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Speaker 2: having a failed attempt being a morning DJ show of
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Speaker 2: conservative talk morning show. He's got a baby now and
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Speaker 2: is just living a very quiet life.
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Speaker 3: Also on the.
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Speaker 2: New York nightlife scene back in the nineties. Bear Jones
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Speaker 2: used to be this club promoter and you would call
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Speaker 2: his everybody got a card and you would call the number,
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Speaker 2: which was a voicemail or an answering machine, and they
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Speaker 2: would let you know where the party was that night.
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Speaker 2: And he went on Bear Jones, I think he died
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight, but he went on, I think,
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Speaker 2: to be a gossip columnist for the Daily News, and
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Speaker 2: was on the circuit, the media circuit, in the night
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Speaker 2: life circuit through at least two thousand and six and
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Speaker 2: more stuff on in Access. I just can't get enough
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Speaker 2: of it. And thanks for all the good work you
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Speaker 2: guys do, and stay punk, love it bye all.
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Speaker 1: Right, Beth, thank you very much, love love the Taylor
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Speaker 1: Swift recon there, thank you. And in excess. As for
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Speaker 1: in Excess, we got a two parter a on in Access,
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Speaker 1: two parts in the archive, parts one and two. Bear
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Speaker 1: Jones that phone that phone thing you just shared. I
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Speaker 1: didn't know about this at all, and I was hanging
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Speaker 1: out in New York in the nineties, assuming nineties is
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Speaker 1: when you're talking about it. I don't know if you
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Speaker 1: said that or not, but this reminds me of this
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Speaker 1: whole Black Keys thing they got going on now. The
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Speaker 1: record hangs, and I'm not sure how people are getting
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Speaker 1: invited to that, but this sounds like a good way
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Speaker 1: to do it. Anyways, I would like to get invited
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Speaker 1: to one of these, So let me know if anyone
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Speaker 1: has some Black Keys hook ups, let me know. All right,
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Speaker 1: let's check out D in Dallas.
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Speaker 4: Hey, Jake, it's d from Dallas again, and I just
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Speaker 4: heard you a little blurb at the closing of your
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Speaker 4: most recent podcasts that I listened to on Disgraced Land,
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Speaker 4: and you questioned whether or not Billy Gordon had actually
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Speaker 4: actually seen a shapegister. I one hundred percent agree, and
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Speaker 4: I have a theory on exactly who it is. I
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Speaker 4: believe that he actually saw a shapegister, and it's somebody
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Speaker 4: that we all know. My gift is that it's Maynard.
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Speaker 4: Last name not required. You know how I'm talking about.
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Speaker 4: And right now you're thinking to yourself, you know what,
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Speaker 4: if there are aliens, and Maynard probably is one of them,
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Speaker 4: along with Trent, probably also an alien to neither one
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Speaker 4: of them. Age I don't understand, except that like they're
20:16
Speaker 4: not from this world. None of Tool's music makes sense.
20:19
Speaker 4: You could show someone on paper and like, hey, this
20:21
Speaker 4: is it would say no, that that does not work.
20:26
Speaker 1: But you know why, let's alien d uh shape shifting
20:32
Speaker 1: into Maynard from Tool, Right, that's what you're saying. And uh,
20:39
Speaker 1: Trent Reznor as well, I don't know. I don't know
20:45
Speaker 1: about that. I need more of this Maynard from Tool,
20:48
Speaker 1: Trent Reznor Alien theory? Do you hit us back? All right,
20:51
Speaker 1: let's check out. Let's see JC in the six five
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Speaker 1: to one.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Jake j C in the six five I have
21:00
Speaker 5: won Minneapolis Saint Paul Lucky Longtime Disco was lucky enough
21:04
Speaker 5: to find you guys. In January twenty nineteen, I tell
21:07
Speaker 5: everybody I know about your shows.
21:09
Speaker 2: You asked about a stranger peculiar.
21:12
Speaker 5: Unlikely cover song. I'm gonna nominate Whosker Dude doing Love
21:16
Speaker 5: is all around the theme of the Mary Tyler Moore Show.
21:19
Speaker 5: They even did it on the Today Show. Oh there's
21:21
Speaker 5: a film, you can go find it. Hey. Lastly, I'm
21:25
Speaker 5: been a big fan of lot of your shows. You
21:28
Speaker 5: turned me on. We've done some discussion about Manson and
21:31
Speaker 5: chaos and all that. I think you should package up
21:34
Speaker 5: all your Manson episodes that we you do with Beetles, Stones, etc.
21:37
Speaker 5: I think that'd work out great man, Hey, thanks for everything.
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Speaker 1: Who's Kerdoo and Mary Tyler Moore? I didn't know this.
21:45
Speaker 1: I did not know. This is Mary Tyler Moore set
21:48
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis. That would make sense. That would make sense.
21:52
Speaker 1: I like your idea about packaging all of our Manson
21:54
Speaker 1: episodes together. For those who don't know, we had this
21:57
Speaker 1: long history with the Helter Skelter story here Gray Santa.
22:00
Speaker 1: All the new listeners started way back and I don't
22:03
Speaker 1: know season two or three or something like that, maybe four,
22:06
Speaker 1: when we did the Beach Boys episodes, which is the
22:08
Speaker 1: traditional Helter Skelter story that you may have probably heard.
22:14
Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest true crime books of all time,
22:16
Speaker 1: and the connection to the Beach Boys Dennis Wilson gave
22:19
Speaker 1: us our in later. A couple of years after that,
22:22
Speaker 1: I realized that Helter Skelter had it all wrong, and
22:26
Speaker 1: therefore I had it all wrong. We released a couple
22:28
Speaker 1: other episodes that are updates. We did a Charles Manson
22:32
Speaker 1: episode based on the music that he made and his
22:36
Speaker 1: life and how it related to the killings, and we
22:38
Speaker 1: did a two parter on Mama cass Elliott because she
22:42
Speaker 1: was intimately involved with the players who get swept up
22:47
Speaker 1: in and around the Helter Skelter story and what I
22:49
Speaker 1: believe is the truth that disrupts the Helter Skelter story.
22:53
Speaker 1: So anyways, there's about what four or five and then
22:56
Speaker 1: if you count the Sharon Tate hollywood Land episodes we've done,
22:58
Speaker 1: there's probably about seven Manson related episodes that we've done.
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Speaker 1: And I like JC in the sixty five ones suggestion
23:04
Speaker 1: about packaging them all together. Maybe we'll do that, I
23:07
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe make a nice little, uh animated book
23:12
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know. All right, let's go to
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Speaker 1: the five to three.
23:16
Speaker 3: I don't know what you just said, but all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, I feel nostalgia for micro machines.
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Speaker 2: Just kidding, I got all the legal stuff.
23:23
Speaker 3: This is actually in reference to my very first listen
23:28
Speaker 3: of hollywood Land long time just Graceland listener. This is
23:31
Speaker 3: my first hollywood Land listen with Sigourney Weaver and then
23:35
Speaker 3: the after show and I just my heart fluttered when
23:41
Speaker 3: Bob from Twin Peaks was mentioned, because he is just
23:46
Speaker 3: the absolute my hands are shaking right now.
23:48
Speaker 2: He is so scary.
23:51
Speaker 3: And that scene where he's crawling over the back of
23:53
Speaker 3: the couch these there's nothing scarier. There's no blood, gore,
23:58
Speaker 3: tense scene in movies that are like suspend anything. Nothing
24:03
Speaker 3: is this terrifying?
24:03
Speaker 2: Is that moment when.
24:04
Speaker 3: He's creeping over that fucking joke?
24:07
Speaker 4: Anyway.
24:08
Speaker 3: I just was really happy to hear somebody else was
24:11
Speaker 3: traumatized by Bob as well.
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Speaker 5: So rock rolla.
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Speaker 1: That's what you say, right see that people be like
24:18
Speaker 1: the five oh three. Check out Hollywood Land. Get in there,
24:22
Speaker 1: get in there, and get after it. You will not
24:24
Speaker 1: be disappointed. Okay, there's a whole other world of content
24:28
Speaker 1: happening in the Hollywood Land feed right now. That is
24:31
Speaker 1: Disgraceland adjacent. It's Hollywood and true crime. It's not music
24:35
Speaker 1: and true crime. You're not going to be disappointed. Be
24:37
Speaker 1: like the five oh three, six one seven nine oh
24:39
Speaker 1: six six six three. You guys want to leave me
24:41
Speaker 1: a voicemail. I want to hear about the most disturbed
24:44
Speaker 1: news you've ever heard from music history, the most upset
24:47
Speaker 1: that any news, or any research or any story from
24:50
Speaker 1: the world of music has made you. Six one seven
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Speaker 1: nine h sixty sixty sixty three. I don't want to
24:54
Speaker 1: get into that next week with you, but in the meantime,
24:56
Speaker 1: let's do some text. Let's talk about this week's episode
24:58
Speaker 1: on the Foo Fighters, This one from the seven seven eight,
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Speaker 1: who writes in, hey, just listen to the Foods Hawkins
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Speaker 1: Grol episode. I never connected the dots together about insurance battles,
25:09
Speaker 1: but regarding the lack of an official cause of death,
25:12
Speaker 1: this explains everything. And yeah, looking now at a whole
25:16
Speaker 1: different wave of Gen X drummers who have quit or
25:18
Speaker 1: taken hiatus to deal with health. Wow, mind blown. I
25:22
Speaker 1: think this is my favorite episode so far, and the
25:24
Speaker 1: first time I felt compelled to text thanks for all
25:27
Speaker 1: you do. Thank you seven seven eight. I appreciate the
25:29
Speaker 1: kind words, appreciate the nice message. But with the nice
25:33
Speaker 1: you got to take the not so nice as well.
25:35
Speaker 1: So let's go to the nine to one seven nine
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Speaker 1: one seven writes in, and here we are listen here
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Speaker 1: it goes nine one seven. You don't want to hear
25:42
Speaker 1: about Dave Grohl's problems. I don't want to hear a
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Speaker 1: hypocrite who lied to everyone by putting on a persona
25:47
Speaker 1: that is not truthful. The audacity to only apologize because
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Speaker 1: he got caught shows that he doesn't give a shit
25:53
Speaker 1: about being faithful to his family. He only cares that
25:56
Speaker 1: his carefully crafted image has been ousted as fake to
25:59
Speaker 1: its core. What a great example to the already fucked
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Speaker 1: up manisphere. You are sucking his dick. This entire episode,
26:07
Speaker 1: like what he did is just personal family issues. No,
26:11
Speaker 1: it's uncovering decades of lies. He is now not only
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Speaker 1: a piece of shit rock star that sleeps around with
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Speaker 1: young women while having a family which consists of only women,
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Speaker 1: but he now depicts a guy with questionable morals willing
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Speaker 1: to lie for his own benefit if he can easily
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Speaker 1: lie about having an affair to only show remorse once
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Speaker 1: word got out, What else about his image is he
26:31
Speaker 1: feeding us as a quote genuine connection with a genuine
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Speaker 1: nice guy unquote is bullshit? Just made up to sell
26:38
Speaker 1: more records, stay relevant, make the maximum profit. It goes
26:42
Speaker 1: against everything Kurt Cobaine and Ravana stood for a legacy
26:45
Speaker 1: his modern day persona depends on to stay standing on
26:49
Speaker 1: the shoulders of giants. Love the show by the way,
26:55
Speaker 1: I love the way the nine to one seven ends
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Speaker 1: it there, and I love the passion. Listen, I get it,
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Speaker 1: I really truly do. I'm not sucking his dick, though.
27:03
Speaker 1: Come on, man, that's that's a little harsh. I addressed
27:06
Speaker 1: all the issues with Dave Grohl. I might not have
27:09
Speaker 1: the same take you have. Here's the thing is thatth
27:13
Speaker 1: and I talked about this in more detail in the
27:15
Speaker 1: exclusive section of this after party coming up. You gotta
27:18
Speaker 1: be an all access member for that. But for those
27:20
Speaker 1: who aren't, I'm gonna I'll address it here too, a
27:22
Speaker 1: little bit not and not so much detail. Honestly, when
27:25
Speaker 1: the news of Dave Grohl's infidelity broke, I was pissed,
27:29
Speaker 1: and my wife and I were talking about it, and
27:32
Speaker 1: I was really I was really upset, much much more
27:35
Speaker 1: upset than you would think by listening to the way
27:40
Speaker 1: I spoke about it in the episode, and my wife
27:44
Speaker 1: and I were talking about this and the reason this
27:47
Speaker 1: one was so upsetting, and maybe this is this is
27:51
Speaker 1: why the Texter is so upset, is because Dave grole.
27:56
Speaker 1: At least for me, I don't want I don't want
27:58
Speaker 1: to I don't want to presume this is why the
27:59
Speaker 1: time was upset. I take that back, but at least
28:02
Speaker 1: for me and for my wife and for a lot
28:04
Speaker 1: of people I know, Dave Grohl's like one of us.
28:08
Speaker 1: He's roughly our age, comes from the same scene that
28:10
Speaker 1: we come from, the hardcore scene, nineties gen X, and
28:15
Speaker 1: he's he really when he started to come out, step
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Speaker 1: out into the spotlight and he was doing all these
28:21
Speaker 1: interviews and the Food Fighters first launch, he was just
28:25
Speaker 1: ultra real, ultra charismatic in a lot of ways. I
28:29
Speaker 1: don't mean to glorify, you know, a rock star here,
28:33
Speaker 1: but he was. He was like the best version of us.
28:35
Speaker 1: He was funnier than us, he was more talented than us,
28:37
Speaker 1: he was more charismatic, you know what I'm saying, And
28:40
Speaker 1: he just he spoke like we did, and he seemed
28:43
Speaker 1: to like the same things and care about the same
28:45
Speaker 1: things that we did. And he sort of carried a
28:46
Speaker 1: version of that of that personality, that persona with him
28:52
Speaker 1: the entire run of the Foo Fighters. And yeah, I
28:54
Speaker 1: know there's people who are up there it's all an act.
28:56
Speaker 1: He's full of shit. He's never been a nice I
28:58
Speaker 1: don't buy that. I know people who know him, know
29:00
Speaker 1: people who who know him well, I know people who
29:04
Speaker 1: have have met him just you know, one offs etcetera.
29:07
Speaker 1: And they all say the same thing, that he really
29:09
Speaker 1: is a great guy. I've never met him, but anyways,
29:12
Speaker 1: it just stung. It just hit. It just it hit
29:14
Speaker 1: more than now to the caller's criticism, the texters criticism,
29:17
Speaker 1: which is it's valid, I didn't express a lot of
29:22
Speaker 1: the anger that I felt in the full episode. You
29:25
Speaker 1: might have heard it back in some of the disgrace
29:27
Speaker 1: and after party episodes when it when this news broke,
29:31
Speaker 1: but in the full episode this week, I did not.
29:33
Speaker 1: I did not express my anger toward Dave in that moment.
29:38
Speaker 1: And here's why we talk about rock stars every single
29:43
Speaker 1: week that are that that have infidelity in their life,
29:47
Speaker 1: that are shitty in relationships to their wives, and and
29:51
Speaker 1: oftentimes we don't even mention it. And yeah, that's on me.
29:56
Speaker 1: It's my job, I guess to bring this stuff up.
29:59
Speaker 1: But it's so common in the music industry, cheating on
30:03
Speaker 1: your wife, cheating on your girl. What, It's so fucking common.
30:05
Speaker 1: It's just boring. It's like, yeah, no shit. So I
30:09
Speaker 1: didn't want to be entirely hypocritical about it. And even
30:14
Speaker 1: though it upset me, I didn't want to just dive
30:17
Speaker 1: into it. Now if Dave girl operated in a really
30:20
Speaker 1: different way. Maybe I would have treated this differently, but
30:24
Speaker 1: he does seem Look, he's with his wife, they're trying
30:27
Speaker 1: to work it out, you know what I mean. And
30:29
Speaker 1: I didn't get into this to be all fucking tabloidy
30:31
Speaker 1: and sensationally and all that shit like that's not what
30:33
Speaker 1: I do. Like it comes up, it comes up, we'll
30:36
Speaker 1: deal with it. And this is a really interesting not interesting.
30:38
Speaker 1: This is a really not interesting, I should say, uh
30:42
Speaker 1: example of this, and it's it is I thought of,
30:45
Speaker 1: you know, what would his daughter? What do his daughters
30:47
Speaker 1: think about this? Some dude on a microphone like op
30:49
Speaker 1: hining on Dave Grohl's infidelity with their mom. And it's
30:53
Speaker 1: finally whatever, it's all out there. You can go elsewhere
30:56
Speaker 1: to get it. I do get your criticism, but that's
30:58
Speaker 1: just my point of you on how I treated this situation.
31:03
Speaker 1: Take it as you will. All right, Let's go to
31:05
Speaker 1: the nine to two on the same subject. Listen, the
31:10
Speaker 1: opinions from the listeners here are not necessarily my own,
31:15
Speaker 1: and I'm not suggesting that they are, and they're solely
31:18
Speaker 1: the opinions of the texters and the callers. Okay, let's
31:25
Speaker 1: see here. Nine O two says, hey, love the show
31:27
Speaker 1: bias up front. I'm a big Foos fan, But regarding
31:31
Speaker 1: the Rolling Stone article, the text was talking about the
31:34
Speaker 1: Rolling Stone article that I mentioned in the episode. Unlike
31:36
Speaker 1: a lot of fans, I didn't really find it that scandalous.
31:39
Speaker 1: It had some interesting insight, and I've always thought it
31:41
Speaker 1: very possible that no one was lying. I think Taylor
31:45
Speaker 1: did vent to his friends and probably even talk to Dave,
31:49
Speaker 1: but he and Dave were best friends. If they needed
31:51
Speaker 1: to talk, they probably didn't have an official meeting with
31:53
Speaker 1: management to formally express concerns. They probably just talked, and
31:57
Speaker 1: who knows what they did or didn't agree to. So
32:00
Speaker 1: the timeline I think is important. Taylor collapsed on the
32:02
Speaker 1: plane in December twenty twenty one, and it seems like
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Speaker 1: Chad and Matt that's Chad Smith from the Chili Peppers
32:07
Speaker 1: and Matt Cameron from Pearl Jam's Soundgarden. We're saying that he,
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Speaker 1: Taylor and Dave Grohl talked after that. This is all
32:14
Speaker 1: in the article, okay, and I'm just going to say
32:17
Speaker 1: it here. Dave Grohl's management denies this, Okay, they deny
32:22
Speaker 1: what Chad and Matt had said, all right, the caller
32:25
Speaker 1: is saying. This caller goes on to say, at that
32:27
Speaker 1: point in twenty twenty two, after Taylor Hawkins collapsed on
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Speaker 1: a plane in December twenty twenty one, tour dates were
32:33
Speaker 1: already announced and tickets were sold. And Taylor was a
32:35
Speaker 1: consuming professional, and I don't think he would have been
32:37
Speaker 1: down with canceling already scheduled shows. If they Taylor and
32:40
Speaker 1: Dave agreed to something, it most likely would have gone
32:43
Speaker 1: into effect after those existing commitments. I also think it's
32:45
Speaker 1: possible Taylor was not aware if he had something seriously
32:49
Speaker 1: medically wrong with him, because I do not believe that
32:51
Speaker 1: if he said to Dave, we have so down or
32:54
Speaker 1: I could die, the Dave would have taken that lightly.
32:56
Speaker 1: Taylor could have downplayed it accidentally or on purpose, even
32:59
Speaker 1: if he did know. I agree with you here. I'm
33:02
Speaker 1: not saying that Dave grol knew Taylor Hawkins was in
33:05
Speaker 1: some sort of medical decline, health decline, what have you?
33:09
Speaker 1: And Dave was like, you must play these shows, damn you.
33:12
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what was going on. Coler was
33:14
Speaker 1: on to say, I'll also say the Foo Fighters had
33:16
Speaker 1: in recent years started factoring their age into their schedule.
33:19
Speaker 1: They played a lot, but only went out for two
33:21
Speaker 1: to three weeks at a time before taking a two
33:23
Speaker 1: to four week break, and they had to stop playing
33:25
Speaker 1: consecutive nights, which you can see if you look into
33:27
Speaker 1: their past tour dates. Anyway, I really like your thoughts
33:30
Speaker 1: about entering uncharted territory with rock bands, and the insurance
33:33
Speaker 1: angle is a good one interesting episode. The band has
33:35
Speaker 1: just started dipping their toes back into talking about difficult
33:38
Speaker 1: subjects lately, so maybe at some point we'll learn more.
33:41
Speaker 1: That's from the nine oh two. Appreciate you nine oh two.
33:44
Speaker 1: I agree a lot. I agree with a lot of
33:46
Speaker 1: what you're saying here, and I just want to state
33:49
Speaker 1: that again, Taylor's depiction, as voiced in that Rolling Stone
33:56
Speaker 1: article of the events with Dave Grohl around his workload
34:02
Speaker 1: with the food Fighters, as depicted in the Rolling Stone
34:05
Speaker 1: article by Chad Smith and Mack Cameron, are adamantly denied
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Speaker 1: by food fighters and food Fighters management. So there we
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Speaker 1: go two seven zero rights And hey, Jake, this is
34:16
Speaker 1: Kate from the two seven zero here in western Kentucky,
34:20
Speaker 1: having worked in healthcare and varying positions from pharmacy to billing,
34:24
Speaker 1: to urgent care to dispatch. I honestly think that the
34:27
Speaker 1: combination of over exertion, perhaps not being fully transparent with
34:31
Speaker 1: his doctor about any non prescription drug usage, self medication
34:35
Speaker 1: with prescription medications, and probably an underlying undiagnosed genetic factor,
34:40
Speaker 1: that that is the official cause of death for Taylor Hawkins.
34:43
Speaker 1: It's likely listed as natural causes, maybe death by misadventure
34:47
Speaker 1: with underlying causes, but it's been covered up to keep
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Speaker 1: the insurance company from refusing to pay. The insurance company
34:53
Speaker 1: is the biggest villain in the whole story. That's who
34:56
Speaker 1: will refuse to pay out on death if they can
34:58
Speaker 1: find a loophole. So nothing nefarious, just an attempt to
35:02
Speaker 1: make sure insurance actually pays. Anyway, that's my nearly four
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Speaker 1: am thought, working Overnights and Ambulance Dispatch, Rock a rolla
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Speaker 1: Baby two seven zero. Appreciate you. You know what's up?
35:13
Speaker 1: Six four six real quick? Hey, hope you're doing well.
35:16
Speaker 1: I was wondering if you're interested in maybe doing a
35:18
Speaker 1: Donnie Hathaway show six four six. We are where we were,
35:22
Speaker 1: I should say, because we did. There's a Donnie Hathaway
35:24
Speaker 1: episode in the archive for you guys. Thanks for your calls,
35:27
Speaker 1: Thanks for your text six one seven nine oh six
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Speaker 1: six six three eight. You guys want to come at
35:31
Speaker 1: me with this week's question of the week on the
35:34
Speaker 1: event from music history that just pissed you off the most,
35:37
Speaker 1: that's what we want to know. Six one seven nine
35:39
Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight. Get at us. You
35:41
Speaker 1: might hear yourself on next week's after party. I'll be
35:43
Speaker 1: back right after this with your emails, DMS and some
35:46
Speaker 1: music in perhaps the television recommendation. All right, we are back.
36:03
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us in another after party. Man, you
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Speaker 1: know we just this cool thing just happened. I'm in
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Speaker 1: the middle of recording and Chad from Canada called. People
36:14
Speaker 1: don't usually call when I'm recording. I have a bank
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Speaker 1: of voicemails and texts that accumulate that I just go
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Speaker 1: in and I grab and I play. The phone just
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Speaker 1: started ringing. It's not actually a phone. I mean, it
36:27
Speaker 1: is a phone, but it's online. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: to answer it, and I figured it out and I
36:31
Speaker 1: just started talking to this guy, Chad, and all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, I was recording a phone call. Our conversation.
36:35
Speaker 1: It was all cool, it's all great, and then my
36:37
Speaker 1: fucking pro tools just died. Chad, I was planning on
36:44
Speaker 1: playing the whole thing. Dude, call us back. Maybe we'll
36:49
Speaker 1: figure out a way to do this live. That'd be fun,
36:51
Speaker 1: wouldn't it take the calls live. I could get into that.
36:55
Speaker 1: I could get into that. I suppose I'd have to
36:57
Speaker 1: tell you at what time I'm recording. I record on Wednesdays,
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Speaker 1: Eastern Standard Time, usually in the usually in the late mornings,
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Speaker 1: recording a little later today. Anyways, six one seven nine
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Speaker 1: oh six six six three eight, you want to leave
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Speaker 1: me a voicemallion, I want to send me a text.
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Speaker 1: We're back and I want to real quick. I want
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Speaker 1: to talk. I want to play a little new song,
37:18
Speaker 1: old song. Okay. The new song of the week that
37:20
Speaker 1: I'm recommending is might See You There from Weird Nightmare.
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Speaker 1: This is the Mets Dude, me Etz, That Mets Alex
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Speaker 1: Atkins again, me Etz, not the eighty six me Ets
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Speaker 1: who broke my heart in campine Win these days. Anyways,
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Speaker 1: I dig this tune by Weird Nightmare from the Mets
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Speaker 1: Dude again. It's called might See You There comes highly
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Speaker 1: recommended from our friend Brett from MEF and Good Music.
37:45
Speaker 1: Brett has great taste. I listen to everything that he
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Speaker 1: sends me anyway. Might see you there by. Weird Nightmare,
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Speaker 1: modern rock pop alt, kind of Lemons, lemonhead Z, kind
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Speaker 1: of Blake baby Z, kind of eighties nineties Boston college
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Speaker 1: rocky is what I'm saying, and I highly recommend it.
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Speaker 1: Old song recommendation for this week. I Need You Tonight
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Speaker 1: by Punkin Machine. Okay, not in excess, Yes, punkin Machine,
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Speaker 1: p U n ki n punkin Machine. I'm back on
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Speaker 1: my eighties Italian disco bullshit. Here, guys find disco guitars
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Speaker 1: that sound better than the disco guitars in this track
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Speaker 1: that weren't recorded by Nile Rodgers. Okay, this shit rules
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Speaker 1: and it will improve your springtime vibes immeasurably. I Need
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Speaker 1: You Tonight by Punkin Machine. My eight year old asked,
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Speaker 1: how does he get his voice to sound like that? Dad?
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Speaker 1: And I wanted to say cocaine, but I didn't. But
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Speaker 1: now you know a little bit more about how awesome
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Speaker 1: this song sounds. All right, Disgray Sam pod at gmail
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Speaker 1: dot com on the email machine. This one comes from
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Speaker 1: Tyler Whitmore suggestion for rewind episodes. I like the pod
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Speaker 1: and started listening back when you did the My Favorite
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Speaker 1: Murder crossover. Glad that you landed with exactly right media.
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Speaker 1: I hadn't listened in a minute, as I think I
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Speaker 1: wasn't subscribed between some earlier seasons. And my suggestion is
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Speaker 1: that if you are releasing an episode or mixing in
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Speaker 1: rewind episodes per week, it might be useful to label
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Speaker 1: them as rewinds it maybe provide any updates to the
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Speaker 1: story if any exists. This is the format that My
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Speaker 1: Favorite Murder uses, and I think it's pretty nice. I
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Speaker 1: was slightly confused because I was listening to that Selena
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Speaker 1: episode and thought it was a new episode as it
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Speaker 1: was a recent release. But I read the description and
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Speaker 1: it says released November twenty twenty. Also in that episode
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Speaker 1: they mentioned that there was a parole hearing set for
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, so it would have been cool after
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Speaker 1: the episode if you gave an update. Now. I understand
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Speaker 1: if you don't want to copy what My Favorite Murder
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Speaker 1: is doing, or if you have your own system, but
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Speaker 1: I think other listeners would enjoy this. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: listening all right. That comes from Uh who did I
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Speaker 1: say that come from? Came from Taylor Whitmore. Taylor, I
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Speaker 1: love your suggestion. I love it so much. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: do it all right from now on, starting this Sunday,
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Speaker 1: there will be a parenthetical in the title of each
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Speaker 1: of the Rewind episodes that says rewind and it should
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Speaker 1: be clear to everybody that this is a previously released
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Speaker 1: piece of content. That doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to it. People, Okay,
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Speaker 1: our shit is evergreen, all right, So make sure just
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Speaker 1: because we're putting Rewind in there, you're not being like,
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Speaker 1: I don't need to listen to this and came up.
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Speaker 1: But no, no, I don't care if you heard that
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Speaker 1: Byork episode back when it was released. It's coming again
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Speaker 1: and you should listen to it this weekend. You're not
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Speaker 1: going to be disappointed. And Taylor, to your point on
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Speaker 1: the updates, I never thought of that, but uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: we'll figure out a way to do that. We'll figure
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Speaker 1: out a way. I'll figure out a way. I'll probably
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Speaker 1: talk to Karen and Georgia see how they do it,
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Speaker 1: and see how they get themselves ready for any of
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Speaker 1: the updating, and we'll incorporate that into our rewind releases
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Speaker 1: as well. Thank you for the suggestion. Julio Escovar right saying, Hey,
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Speaker 1: Jake or whoever checks the email. My name is Julio
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Speaker 1: Sesar Escovar. I'm a journalist with over twenty years of experience,
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Speaker 1: and I was the director of a rock radio station
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Speaker 1: in Colombia when Taylor Hawkins died. Plus I was at
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Speaker 1: the festival Estero Picnic waiting for them to perform when
41:11
Speaker 1: we all saw the announcement on the Food's Instagram account.
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Speaker 1: It all was very chaotic, with little or any information
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Speaker 1: at all, and we did a special broadcast from Estero
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Speaker 1: Picnic with some of the attendees who were at the festival.
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Speaker 1: People in Colombia love the Foo Fighters, so it is
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Speaker 1: a moment in history that we will always remember. I
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Speaker 1: just wanted to let you know that I agree with
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Speaker 1: everything you said in the FOOS episode on Taylor's death.
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Speaker 1: All the best, Julio c ESCOVARPS. I'm a big, big
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Speaker 1: fan of Disgraceland. Julio, thank you very much. I appreciate
41:40
Speaker 1: the perspective from Columbia from somebody who was there when
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Speaker 1: this happened, and I know that the listeners appreciate it
41:46
Speaker 1: as well. Disgracelampod at gmail dot com. Guys, you want
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Speaker 1: Covers a most excellent push Mode narrative Jake, as far
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Speaker 1: as Unexpected Covers, Tori Amos taking on Slayer's Raining Blood
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Speaker 1: was definitely a hard hit in the left field. All
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Speaker 1: the best, James Buckley. Damn man, I've never heard that.
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Speaker 1: I've never heard Tori Amos doing Slayer. That's just incredible, incredible.
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Speaker 1: I was listening to Cornflake earlier other day. I think
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Speaker 1: as one of you guys recommended it. I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: or reminded me of it. I've known that song forever.
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Speaker 1: It's a great song. Love Tori Amos. All right, guys,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get out of here. I'm gonna go head
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Speaker 1: out into the exclusive part of the after party. Okay,
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Speaker 1: little bit more, but not much, and I'll be talking
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Speaker 1: to Zeth in there. Zeth, as you may or may
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Speaker 1: not know, is my partner in true crimes. He likes
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Speaker 1: to call himself. He's also not a real doctor, though
42:55
Speaker 1: he's sometimes referred to as doctor Lundy. Zeth Helm's the
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Speaker 1: These are Hollywood and true crime stories, just like our
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Speaker 1: music and true crime stories. We're talking Drew Barrymore this
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Speaker 1: in addition to the scripted episode on Drew Barrymore. In
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Speaker 1: the Rap Party, we're talking and we hate this term
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Speaker 1: Nepo babies, but we're doing some recommendations of From my standpoint,
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Speaker 1: away was great music by and this is all kicked
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Speaker 1: off by the Drew Barrymore stuff, great music from musicians,
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Speaker 1: from the parents of famous people basically, and I had
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Speaker 1: a couple of good ones in there. And then Zeth
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Speaker 1: gave us some film recommendations again from quote unquote Nepple babies,
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Speaker 1: and we talk about why we hate that term. In
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Speaker 1: the Hollywood Land Rap Party, screening Room from Hollywoodland is
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Speaker 1: happening end of this week and the movie that we're
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Speaker 1: talking about is A Gun Crazy from nineteen ninety two
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Speaker 1: by Tamra Davis, who was once married to a beastie
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Speaker 1: boy Mike Die I believe, starring Drew Barrymore. That's what
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Speaker 1: Zeth right now in the all access portion of the
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Speaker 1: Disgraced Land after Party, I'll the back in the flash.
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Speaker 1: All right, we are back. Thank you for joining me
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Speaker 1: in another after party episode. So many artists mentioned in
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Speaker 1: this episode from our archive. Jim Morrison got a classic
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Speaker 1: Jim Morrison episode. Check that out if you haven't heard it.
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you. If you have not heard it, you
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Speaker 1: will be surprised, very shocked by the time you get
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Speaker 1: to the end of that episode. I guarantee it. We
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Speaker 1: don't have a Janis Joplin episode, though I need to
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Speaker 1: fix that. Definitely have a Jimmy Hendrix and Graham Parsons
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Speaker 1: episodes Taylor Swift in Excess. It's all there. It's all there.
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Speaker 1: You'll find it. Let me know if you need help
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Speaker 1: navigating the archive. Matt'll have some episode notes for some
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Speaker 1: of these classic episodes in the show notes of this
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Speaker 1: after party for you as well. All right, let's recap
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Speaker 1: number one. This week our Foo Fighters episode is available
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Speaker 1: for you to listen to right now. Number two. We
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Speaker 1: are rewinding with a classic episode from the Disgraceland archive
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Speaker 1: this week with our episode on B York. Number three.
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Speaker 1: Next week Ian walkins from Lost Profits and is Unspeakable
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Speaker 1: True Crimes. Number four. Zeth is giving you those Hollywood
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Speaker 1: and true crime vibes in the Hollywood Land feed. Make
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Speaker 1: This film should be played loud. Our new video podcasts
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Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. Your voice keeps
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Speaker 1: Number seven, don't forget, just goes. This isn't just content.
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Speaker 1: It's a community, a community of the obsessed. No one
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Speaker 1: cares about music, books, records, and the crime and crime
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Speaker 1: that ties them all together like you do. And well
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Speaker 1: that's a disgrace, all right. On July fourth, nineteen ninety four,
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Speaker 1: Dave Girl marked his independence with a bang and released
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Speaker 1: the first Food Fighters album. Here is what America was
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Speaker 1: listening to on that day, according to the Billboard Charts.
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Speaker 1: Number one Waterfalls TLC last week one peak position one
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Speaker 1: weeks on chart six, number two one more Chance, stay
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Speaker 1: with the Notorious Big last week just peak position day
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Speaker 1: two weeks on chart, last week four, to your friend,
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Speaker 1: number three, don't take it personal chart just one of
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Speaker 1: them days, Monica last week six two peak position two,
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Speaker 1: Dry Voice two men last week six peak position number two,
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Speaker 4: Five, to.
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Speaker 1: Quit talking and start mixing. Hello, I was trying to
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Speaker 1: reach the disgrace.
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Speaker 4: Then maybe I have the wrong number.
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Speaker 1: No, no, you got him. This is Jake. Who's this
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Speaker 1: Jake Brennan.
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Speaker 3: Wow, it's Chap home from up in By.
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Speaker 5: Vancouver, BC.
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Speaker 1: Oh right now, what's up chat? How are you man,