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Chuck & Buck 11-12 Hour 4: the family's back! Al Kinisky and one last thing. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: So as we roll into the nine o'clock hour here
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  Speaker 1: on a home day, al Koniski will join us later
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  Speaker 1: in the hour. We got one last thing coming your way.
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  Speaker 1: A little more on the college football playoff rankings as well.
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  Speaker 1: But tonight all the fun comes to a close. The
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  Speaker 1: family gets back in town at the Jacobson household.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's the one and only pantiless Monday.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's over. Yep. Yeah, there was got to
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  Speaker 1: do it once. Yeah, I did it for a few days.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it was there was a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Just wandering around okay, nakedness okay, but then again, I
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  Speaker 3: mean it's yeah, I tried not to do that a
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  Speaker 3: ton I mean, nobody wants to see that time to.
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  Speaker 1: Take the couch cushion fort down and put them back
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  Speaker 1: in the couch where they belong.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I did return anything back to the
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  Speaker 3: way that it was necessarily. Now, I will say this, uh,
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  Speaker 3: first and foremost, I genuinely missed my family, like it's
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  Speaker 3: it's crazy, how it's crazy, how almost lonely it feels
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  Speaker 3: when you're used to such commotion, like NonStop dad, dad, mom, mom,
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  Speaker 3: You know, the kids, and Kate doesn't do that whole lot.
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  Speaker 3: She's not usually saying dad, dad, but it's just there's
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  Speaker 3: always somebody Look what I can do. Fuck, look what
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  Speaker 3: I can do. Yeah, there is times so she's like,
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  Speaker 3: I want to build this. I want to build this.
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  Speaker 3: I want to build this. Okay, just go build it,
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  Speaker 3: you do you? But I mean I was, it almost was.
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  Speaker 3: So I took full advantage of, like I said, I
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  Speaker 3: when we left, they flew out Friday morning. When I
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  Speaker 3: left here, I went and got two big pizzas from
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  Speaker 3: Frankiees and I just basically grazed on them for like
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  Speaker 3: three days.
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  Speaker 2: Not largest, yeah, no extra largest.
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  Speaker 3: Yes and so, and it grazed on the night that
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  Speaker 3: they before they all left, I had cooked at dinner
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  Speaker 3: with some steak and chicken basically for steak and chicken
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  Speaker 3: burritos or tacos, whatever you want to call it, and.
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  Speaker 1: You can mix both if you want. I did.
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  Speaker 3: I did so after the pizzas were gone. The last
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  Speaker 3: couple of days, I've basically just eaten this, you know,
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  Speaker 3: made in my own little taco concoctions, and one day
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  Speaker 3: I had it with chips and just basically talked like
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  Speaker 3: chicken and steak nachos that I made for myself. It
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  Speaker 3: was awesome, It was awesome. I dirtied one dish the
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  Speaker 3: entire time.
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  Speaker 2: How many dishes got dirty?
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  Speaker 1: One? Right now?
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  Speaker 3: I did put it in the dishwasher with the other
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  Speaker 3: stuff that I put in the day that before they left.
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  Speaker 3: And I just started that last night. So I did
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  Speaker 3: the dishes, just.
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  Speaker 1: Turned it on. One time. I used one dish, put
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  Speaker 1: it in there, turned it on. It is remarkable, like
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  Speaker 1: dishes when I grew up and we had a family
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  Speaker 1: of eight. I mean, it was just every night scene.
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  Speaker 1: And it is remarkable when you are a man. I
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  Speaker 1: can only speak because I've only been a man and
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  Speaker 1: you're by yourself. How how little dishes bother you in
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  Speaker 1: your existence? Because you don't use many? Right? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Much?
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  Speaker 1: Why why did they accumulate so much when you add
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  Speaker 1: another person? I mean, I'll even go so far as
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  Speaker 1: to let you know.
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  Speaker 3: So I used a paper plate when I got home
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  Speaker 3: with the pizzas. We have some paper plates, right, I
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  Speaker 3: just used the same one for the entire weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you didn't even dirt.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even I didn't dirty multiple paper plates.
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  Speaker 3: Wow with Knapkin on the same paper towel too, just
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  Speaker 3: laid it on this on the thing and just put
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  Speaker 3: it right on the box of pepperoni. I said, I'll
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  Speaker 3: see you in a little while, and sure enough, a
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  Speaker 3: couple hours go by.
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  Speaker 1: I think I could. I think I could indulge in
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  Speaker 1: another piece of pizza and go grab the same place.
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  Speaker 2: That's the look on now. He looks so proud. I
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  Speaker 2: was like this, I was very proud.
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  Speaker 4: He's like, oh my gosh, I wouldn't believe how successful
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  Speaker 4: my weekend.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so, taking a shower, right, we can get out
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  Speaker 3: of the shower. Everybody has a shower match that they
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  Speaker 3: get out that, you know, so you're not slipping around
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  Speaker 3: on the little in floor tile floor or whatever. Well
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  Speaker 3: they're little, they're like normal size, but that's little from me.
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  Speaker 3: It's you know, I don't know, maybe two foot by
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  Speaker 3: a foot and a half little rectangle. And I think
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  Speaker 3: about it pretty much every day when I get out
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  Speaker 3: of the shower, like I wish this was bigger. So
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  Speaker 3: when they were gone, I just took a towel. It
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  Speaker 3: was the older towel that I had been using, and
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  Speaker 3: it put it on the floor like a full.
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  Speaker 1: Blown beach towel thing.
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  Speaker 3: So the whole area was just I could walk wherever
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  Speaker 3: I wanted and drip however much I wanted.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I wanted to be done being dried off.
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  Speaker 2: Oh uh huh.
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  Speaker 1: It really is, though, Like what a guy, there's there's
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  Speaker 1: such value in just that freedom to not be corrected
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  Speaker 1: about something.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm not one that's very good at
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  Speaker 3: being corrected.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so I heard a conversation on the way
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  Speaker 1: in Okay and it was it was a female host,
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  Speaker 1: and she's fantastic, and she was talking about like she
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  Speaker 1: was going out. She had friends coming to town to
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  Speaker 1: visit her, and they were celebrating that she just ran
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  Speaker 1: a marathon, and she was talking about how they all
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  Speaker 1: got together and they all stayed the night together and
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  Speaker 1: they did their makeup and were getting ready to go
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  Speaker 1: out on the town and they just laughed and played
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  Speaker 1: music and danced and half naked and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And she was like it really, in her words, it
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  Speaker 1: really is the best thing about being a female and
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  Speaker 1: having female friends. And she was asking on the air,
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  Speaker 1: what's the equivalent of that on the other side, on
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  Speaker 1: the male side, And the two dopes that she's with
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  Speaker 1: didn't have an answer. One of them said the locker room, Well,
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  Speaker 1: not everybody can relate to that, you know, not everybody
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  Speaker 1: played professional football. And the other guy didn't even have
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  Speaker 1: an answer because he's weird. But I'm sitting there like
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  Speaker 1: yelling at the radio, like the equivalent of that is
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  Speaker 1: that guys just get together. It's a vulnerable state, that's
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  Speaker 1: what it is. You're running around half naked, but you
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  Speaker 1: don't care because you're with the people that you like
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  Speaker 1: and you're having a good time and so you relax.
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  Speaker 1: You're not worried about whether or not your significant other
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  Speaker 1: is going to judge you for something. So that's that's
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  Speaker 1: the joy that she's expressing. It's just that females are
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  Speaker 1: a lot more button up than what males are on average.
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  Speaker 1: But for a group of males, our equivalent of that
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  Speaker 1: is just getting together, a game on in the background,
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  Speaker 1: eating what you want, drinking what you want, not worrying
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  Speaker 1: about it. You know, gambling if you're playing poker, being
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  Speaker 1: loose with the language, you know, things of that nature,
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  Speaker 1: without worrying that somebody doesn't like what you're saying, doing
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  Speaker 1: or thinking. And it is it's not even spousal. It
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  Speaker 1: could be just anything. That's the equivalent. It's just being
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  Speaker 1: able to be yourself with your favorite people in an
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  Speaker 1: environment that there's no judgment.
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  Speaker 2: So you can SAPA in a safe space.
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  Speaker 1: And you can be as you can be as vulnerable
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  Speaker 1: as you want to be and be yourself as much
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  Speaker 1: as you want to be. That's the equivalent. So Michelle,
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  Speaker 1: nobody could come up with an answer that's the answer
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  Speaker 1: from a male perspective.
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  Speaker 2: And also it makes sense. Yeah, yeah, totally makes sense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I And I think.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's just interesting because I think it's so funny
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  Speaker 4: that men and women also have such varying or such
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  Speaker 4: big ideas of what the opposite sex does when they're alone.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Like, there's a joke what was it on? Uh oh?
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  Speaker 5: On friends and they were like, oh, yeah, what do
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  Speaker 5: you think when we all get together, we just wear
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  Speaker 5: pajamas and have pillow fights?
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  Speaker 2: Right then he's like and then they're like, no, we're kidding, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: of course we do that.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you can't break Joey's heart into thinking that that's
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  Speaker 4: something that doesn't happen, but it is. You know, there's
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  Speaker 4: always been those stereotypical things that you think happens.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the same thing like I and I know you
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  Speaker 1: can relate to this, like when I mean Unicorn came
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  Speaker 1: to town, and I've lived with several different women in
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  Speaker 1: my life individually.
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  Speaker 2: Not to get I was gonna say, not at the
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  Speaker 2: same time.
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  Speaker 1: Not at the same time, but she was the most
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  Speaker 1: like concerned about it, and so like if I had
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  Speaker 1: the place to myself or left of my own devices,
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  Speaker 1: her brain went to like what you see on the movies,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, all I want is a break
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  Speaker 1: from you. Yeah, I have nothing intended except to be alone,
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  Speaker 1: probably get a nice bottle of scotch, slowly enjoy it
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  Speaker 1: over the weekend, watch sports, and go outside for a
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  Speaker 1: run on occasion. That's pretty much all I want to do. Ever,
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  Speaker 1: why do you think I'm going to go to some
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, strip joint pajama party across town. All
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  Speaker 1: I want is just time alone and to not hear
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  Speaker 1: about anything else but what I my own breath, breathing,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I want to hear. I want to not
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  Speaker 1: have to say what do you want to watch? I'm
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  Speaker 1: just gonna choose what I want to watch. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: the joy. That's the joy that they were experiencing, and
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  Speaker 1: that's the joy that guys experience. It's nothing tawdry, eat
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  Speaker 1: no dark or seeded. It typically is and I know
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  Speaker 1: there are dark types, but it typically is just no,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to do what I want to do
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  Speaker 1: without hearing anything about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like when I go out of town.
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  Speaker 5: I know all Mark wants to do is like, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: i can play golf whenever I want, and I'll hang
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  Speaker 5: out at the club and have some drinks, and then
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  Speaker 5: I'll come home and I'll lay on the couch and
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  Speaker 5: I'll watch TV and I'll have whatever I want to eat,
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  Speaker 5: and I don't have to worry.
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  Speaker 2: About feeding anybody else.
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  Speaker 4: And it's the same when he goes out of town
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  Speaker 4: and Palmer's gone, I'm like, poor wine, watch trash television,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm going to make like vegetables that he won't eat,
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  Speaker 4: or you know, some food that he doesn't like to eat.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I'm going to cook Indian food tonight
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  Speaker 4: because he won't eat that, or I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Make Brussels routes because he eats the smell of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, He's right, it's sme gross. That's there's simplicity
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  Speaker 3: of the whole thing. And yet it's this five days
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it was was. It was crazy because as
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  Speaker 3: of late, you guys know, I've been making some changes,
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  Speaker 3: dietary changes and whatnot, and it's real easy to do.
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  Speaker 3: Once I basically tell my wife, who's very fit, and
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  Speaker 3: she's into that, hey, all right, I'm ready to do this.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she stopped.
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  Speaker 3: Getting the crap food that I enjoyed. She didn't get
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  Speaker 3: the big bag of cheetos at cost Go anymore, because it's.
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  Speaker 1: Very good of her. Yes, as someone that loves you.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, she was waiting for me to finally say, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to commit to this and I'm ready to
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  Speaker 3: do it. And yet so that was my first order
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  Speaker 3: of Like, the first thing I was to do was not
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  Speaker 3: like it's not sneaky. I've told her about it, Like yep,
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  Speaker 3: I bought a couple of pizzas and I just grazed
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  Speaker 3: on them.
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  Speaker 1: It was.
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  Speaker 3: And then it was the idea of usually because you cohabitate,
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  Speaker 3: like there was one day that I just laid on
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  Speaker 3: the couch and watch sports. Right, usually I have a
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  Speaker 3: chair and I sit there. I laid on the couch. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: I put the blanket that you got us for Christmas.
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  Speaker 3: I put that down on the couch to lay on
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  Speaker 3: that as soft and I don't need a blanket over
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  Speaker 3: the top of me because I'm I'm fatinam hot all
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 1: But wow, yeah, I was super hot.
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  Speaker 3: Oh with the pose I was in, and I was
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  Speaker 3: in my underwear the whole day, like that's it. Nothing else.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't put anything else on. But I even brought
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  Speaker 3: like a pillow out from the one of my extra
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  Speaker 3: pillows from the bed out and normally I would pick
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  Speaker 3: that up right, fold up the blanket, put everything away. No,
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  Speaker 3: left it there, left it right there the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: I forgot to put it away so she doesn't go
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  Speaker 3: home and see it. I actually, I don't care if
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  Speaker 3: she's going to. I didn't make the bed after I
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  Speaker 3: got up any of the days. Yeah, I just it
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  Speaker 3: was just the just do whatever I want type of
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  Speaker 3: a thing. And yet at the same time, I'm so
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  Speaker 3: glad they're home.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And you know that it's right to
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  Speaker 1: pick that thing up. We all know that it's right,
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  Speaker 1: and we didn't have to actually feel better about it
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  Speaker 1: if we walked back through the room and saw that
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  Speaker 1: we had put it away earlier, we would actually feel
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  Speaker 1: better about that.
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  Speaker 3: But you didn't have to write right. So that's the key.
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  Speaker 3: I take a vacation, I put the toilet seat down.
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  Speaker 3: I would say ninety nine point nine percent of the
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  Speaker 3: time the last five days, not once on purpose. There
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  Speaker 3: was a couple of times I put it down out
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  Speaker 3: of habit, and I reached back down and put it
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  Speaker 3: back up, just just as you could, just because the
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  Speaker 3: next time I saved myself that one second and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, huh, now, trust you me. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: be happy to go back to putting them back down right,
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  Speaker 3: having my family back in.
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  Speaker 1: The house, having the noise, and yes, chaos can't wait, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can't wait. I believe that. I do. I believe that,
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  Speaker 1: all right. I did want to talk a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about the college football playoff rankings. I would to try
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  Speaker 1: to do a little bit of an exercise because a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people have problems with the polls, that's very clear,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of people have problems with their rankings.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean Rick new Isel, Cam Cleveland Softy brings
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  Speaker 1: it up all the time, the two of you as well.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean we're talking about a collection of you know,
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  Speaker 1: smart people here right that how is that team not
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  Speaker 1: ahead when they beat them? And I just would like
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  Speaker 1: to remind you that the job is far more difficult
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  Speaker 1: than that, and I know you guys know that, but
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  Speaker 1: especially this time of the year, as resumes are changing constantly,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not just as easy as looking at seven.
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  Speaker 1: These two teams are seven and two, and that team
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  Speaker 1: beat the other team, why are they ranked lower? It's
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  Speaker 1: just not that simple. And so I wanted to see
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  Speaker 1: if we could go through an exercise to try to
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  Speaker 1: if I can maybe prove this okay once and for all.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope Coach new ISIL's listening out he is,
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  Speaker 1: I hope Softie's listening, and I hope cam Cleveland's listening
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  Speaker 1: because I don't want to have to repeat it.
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  Speaker 2: You three, okay?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? And by the way, pick up your towel your
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  Speaker 1: wife's home, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And put the toilet seat down.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, all right. So this started with Bucky and I
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  Speaker 1: talking off the air, and he was like, how is
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  Speaker 1: Miami ahead of Louisville when Louisville beat them and they
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  Speaker 1: have the same record. That's where the conversation started. And
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  Speaker 1: so my take, of course was because Miami's overall resume
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  Speaker 1: with wins over Notre Dame in South Florida outside of conference,
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  Speaker 1: and without an embarrassing loss on their ledger. The most
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  Speaker 1: embarrassing loss they have is home to SMU, which is
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good team made the tournament a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: They're just resume is just better. But if we played
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  Speaker 1: this game of all right, they have the same record,
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  Speaker 1: but they lost to them, they have to be ranked ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Look at how faulty that this gets? Fast, Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: we'll start with Louisville has to be ahead of Miami. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if that's the case, Miami beat Notre Dame and they
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  Speaker 1: have the same record, So that means Miami, by this rule,
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  Speaker 1: has to be ahead of Notre Dame. So you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: say Louisville's got to be out of Miami because that
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  Speaker 1: just clear cut same record, they beat them head to head,
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  Speaker 1: they have to be ahead of the Miami. Then that means,
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  Speaker 1: by that logic, Miami has to be ahead of Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 1: which means Louisville has to be ahead of Notre Dame. Right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So now so now Notre Dame has a win over
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  Speaker 1: USC right Okay, And they won by ten. So if USC,
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  Speaker 1: for example, were to beat Oregon next week and they
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  Speaker 1: both have the same records, there's an argum to me
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  Speaker 1: made that Oregon should still be ahead of USSE but USC,
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  Speaker 1: by this logic, says, well, we've got to be ahead
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  Speaker 1: of Oregon. We have the same record, and we just
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  Speaker 1: beat them head to head. So now Notre Dame's definitely
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  Speaker 1: got to be ahead of USC, and USC's definitely got
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  Speaker 1: to be ahead of Oregon. So now Oregon with two
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  Speaker 1: losses on the season and still a resume worth making
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  Speaker 1: the tournament, I would think, especially if they close strong.
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  Speaker 1: By this logic, Oregon is now behind Louisville, Miami, Notre Dame, USC,
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  Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, Virginia who beat Louisville, So
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  Speaker 1: Virginia has to go ahead of all of them by
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  Speaker 1: this logic. And then so look how far that's pushing
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Oregon down. Yeah, if you want to go a little further,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Illinois beat USC. Now, granted they have three losses, but
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: two of those losses were against the first and second
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: ranked teams in America. So there's an argument then that
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: could be made if we're going to play this. Yeah,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: but we beat you head to head game that Illinois
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: now goes ahead of USC in the rankings, and so
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: you dub beat Illinois. So maybe you dubbed jumps Oregon
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: if they lose to USC playing this, Yeah, but they
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: beat them head to head game that so many people
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: want to play and then are so confused about. And
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: then Wisconsin beat you dub and I know that their
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: records nowhere close, but boy, you want to talk about
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: putting a smile back on Luke Fickles's place or fickles face.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Congratulations Now in this head to head math that we
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: want to do, you're now a bubble team. Congratulations Badgers.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I know it's been a rough year, but you're a
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: bubble team, so it just can't work that way. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: do believe that head to head has to come into
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: play on certain tiebreakers, but because it's so convoluted, the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: overall resume is what has to get you there. Even
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: if you do have the same record as somebody else
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and you lost to them head to head, you still
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: have to take everything into consideration. Do you have bad losses,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: do you have quality wins? Did you play anybody in
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: non conference? Did you lose at home to a team
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: that you shouldn't have lost to Did you beat a
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: team that you weren't supposed to beat on the road.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: All of that factors in, even things like did you
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: have key players out? That's a little further down the line,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: but did you have key players out at certain times
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: than that created the loss? And now those players are
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: back and now you look more dangerous. That's where the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: eye test comes into play. So all of that has
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: to be factored in. And that's why it is just
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: about the resume, way more than head to head, just
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: about the overall resume and giving value to all of
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: those individual elements that suggest how good of a football
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: season that you had. And there is no exact science
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: to it. There's gonna be a little bit of just
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: human element. This is what I think. I mean, that's
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: there's no way of getting around that. And so to me,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I hope. I know a lot of people get upset
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: by that. How can they be ranked out on them
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: because there's just so much more that goes into the
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: decision of who's gets ranked ahead of who. Yeah, there's
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: obviously way more.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, if anybody, excuse me, would think it just
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: head to head, well, that would be silly. It's to me,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: it's all of those things you just said, Okay, your resume,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: your strength of schedule.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: How difficult is it.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, what's the difference between beating beating Rutgers and
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: beating Cal Is there a difference? Well, there's a difference.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: And how much weight do you put in the difference
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and how much so? And then that's where my biggest
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: thing is when all of a sudden, even when you
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: start comparing resumes, when it's you compare the resume of
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: like teams that you played, well, then they have to
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: go so deep as to Okay, well you played them
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: and lost to them when they had their starting quarterback,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: and then this team lost beat them when they were
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: on their third string quarterback. Like you have to go
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: into all of that stuff, and I think the committee,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I think does go into that.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Might have to eventually you might have to end up there.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: If you're really splitting hairs, then you're getting to the point,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: are like, well when did you beat them?
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: You know, and that sort of thing comes in, Like
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: this Penn State thing is a really difficult element that
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Penn State was one of the top teams in the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: country and probably are on paper still to this day,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and Oregon probably deserves a lot of credit for crushing
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Penn State spirit so thoroughly with that victory on the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: road that the entire program fell apart. That should be
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: a feather in their cap. But and I think that
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: does come up in the conversation eventually, and it has
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to be included in the conversation when discussing Oregon's resume.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is overall, that Penn
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: State resume is so crappy right now that a win
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: over Penn State doesn't look that great anymore.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: But okay, then, at the same time, then you have
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: to to me, it's the eye test, which I think
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: that they put a lot of stock in that, right.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I think that's where their biggest debate is when they
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: talk about, Okay, well, then then do you deduct points
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: from Indiana for barely squeaking by them with the last second,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: miraculous touchdown tiptoe thing at the very end of it,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: when they're on a five or six game losing streak
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: coming into it, do you say, well, you could barely
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: get by this team that we had completely wrong. It
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: did come up in the conversation this week, and yet
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, to some degree, there's the alur injury is
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: part of it. The fact that that did crush their
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: spirit a little bit. They had a white out game
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: and got beat on their own their own turf. With it,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I think Ucla, You think that Ucla all of a
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: sudden comes in right after new Heizel's kid takes over
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: and injects a different kind of life into it, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know, they win a game
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: at home when Penn State's coming off of the maybe
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: overlooked it as it still hadn't gotten over the Oregon lost.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: There's way that there's so many things that go into it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: That's why it's not an exact science. It's the exact
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: science would just be the best records. Well, obviously you
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: can't go with that because some team that you know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: North Dakota State might go undefeated. Are they the number
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: one team in the country?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Of course not.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: And so to me, it's there's a ton that goes
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: into it. And yet it's it's dependent upon how much
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: stock you put into it, how much how much weight
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: you put into each thing, as you're putting all of
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: these different variables on the scale. And that's one where
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: you can never really get any people that are discussing
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: this thing to completely agree on the entire thing.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: And so that's why I think they do it now. Committee.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: That's why you have a committee, and that's why they
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: do these rankings now and then every single week, so
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: they have a starting point with what they go at
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: and now you have the second half of the season
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: or last third of the season to kind of figure
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: out how the wiggle rooms can happened.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, just just the little exercise that we did,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Virginia is at the top of the heap of all
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: of those programs if we did it based off of
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: identical records. But the head to head thing as the tiebreaker,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you're putting Virginia out of Louisville, Miami, Notre Dame, USC,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: and Oregon. That's if USC beats Oregon. And there's no
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: way Virginia deserves that. They've lost two, they have two
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: bad losses on their resume and they don't really have
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: all that Their most impressive win was the Louisville win.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So it's just I don't know, I just hear it
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: all the time. Same record, I mean I heard from
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: coach Newey was old earlier the same record, how are
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: they lower? Because there's more to it than just the
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: head to head matchup, and it does factor, but everything
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: has to factor, and then we try and do our
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: best to figure out how good a season that a
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: team had was. All right? Coming up next, Al Kiniski'll
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: join us Chuggingbock Sports Radio ninety three point three KJARFM.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: You can issuate so you're out of town too, to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: come in here and say hello. Brought us Queen Anne
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: beer Hall breakfast burritos they were the day the tree
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: fell Yeah, exactly. He like, he's like, hey, is he
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: out today? I'm coming in today. That's not how it happened.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Oh you don't think no, did Justin come into someone else?
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the name.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Justin probably think Justin probably didn't come in because he
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: heard the tree fell down.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: He's like, well, I don't know, I want to see
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Chuck and Ashley. Well, we just enjoyed Al's presence immensely
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: and wish he would come back every week. Yeah, it'd
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: be nice. Breakfast burritos, Al, how are you? Good morning?
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: Fantastic? And uh, you know, Buck, I got to say
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: I've been in the corporate world for thirty years. If
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: I had a nickel for every time I heard the
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: tree fell on my car excuse I won't be into
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: work today, it'd be a rich man.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Oh is that right?
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Well, maybe that's because you're Canadian a lot of trees
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: fall on cars, or that your go to excuse. Next time,
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I'll call you at nine o'clock at eleven o'clock at
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: night and see if you want to come out there
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: and help me with.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: You can hit, you can wield a change. I'm sure
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: You've got to get stealed though. Get a sponsorship in.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: There for you. That'd be a great idea, the one
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I use. Yeah, that's that's a good point, absolutely all right. Well,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: cracking last night, lose in another shootout, another overtime game.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I don't want to labor this point al, but just
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: getting one when you can get two in these sessions
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: is starting to get a little repetitive.
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, listen, you can look at this from
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: the glass half empty, glass half full standpoint. You saw
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: a team last night that put their defensive structure on
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: display and kept the opposing team to one goal against.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: But unfortunately the glass half empty side is you couldn't
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: put pucks in on a team that was playing in
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: their second back to back that was pretty decimated with
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: some sort of sickness, flew whatever, and had many guys
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: with a lineup. Also, the goalie that played in the
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: first of the back to back played in the second
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: back to back and that's rare. So you know, depending
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: on what side you're looking at, Yeah, you got a
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: point out of it, but you really should have gotten two.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: How difficult is it?
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, we we just watched the Sounders basically lose
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: their their playoff game. They lost to with penalty kicks,
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: And I know in soccer it's you should make just
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: about every single one. I'm you're not going to nobody's perfect,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: but it's one of those it's far bigger than the
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: guy that is covering it can cover. And yet in
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: hockey it seems far more difficult. And so what is
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: the percentage that you expect your guys to make when
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: it comes to penalty shootouts?
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean there's there's a very select few number
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: of players in the league that have high percentage numbers,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: and high might be you know, thirty percent or you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: for every every three they're getting one, but really it's
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: much lower than that. It's something that you you practice,
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: you know when you do have opportunities in practice. But
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: every goalie is different in the league. Every goalie is
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: going to play things differently, so you know, the percentage
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: is probably much slower than lower than what you would
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: think it would be. And listen, you know, the the
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: ratio of space between the goaltender and the and the
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: net is very different hockey versus soccer, so you're not
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: surprised when the number is so small. But having said that,
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: it's a skill, it's it's a it's a skills competition. Unfortunately,
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: that's how we've decided we're going to end games in
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: the NHL during the regular season, and there are some
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: guys that are fantastic in it and some guys that struggle,
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: even though they're they're high scorers during five on five
• 26:50
  Speaker 6: player or power play. There's something about that breakaway situation,
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: that one versus one situation that you know, it's hard
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: to get over that hump.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Color Analyst for yours you a cracking right here on
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: the flagship al Kaniski with us. He joins us every
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Wednesday at this time. I know we're out. Got to
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: coord out for a little bit here, and hopefully it's
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: only a little bit. But I got to give credit
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to Matt Murray for a third string goalie. I don't
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: know if that's technically true, but certainly the way that
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: the season started, he was the third guy added to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the roster. Man. He was terrific last night.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah he was. And it was his second start to
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: in two games. So, you know, goalies love flow, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: I think they you know, once you get a couple
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: of games in your belt, you start to feel that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: But you know, I mistakenly sit on the broadcast last
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: night that with Joey to Cord out, you've got both
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Philip Grubauer and Matt Murray vying for that who the
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: true second backup goaltender is. And I have to amend
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: that statement. We don't know how long Joy Tocord's out.
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: So right now, what these two goaltenders are doing is
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: trying to buy for who's going to be the number
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: one goaltender. I'll tell you, the way Matt Murray played,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: he's got my vote right now.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if he's the one, is it still
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: just pretty much split? I mean, it seems like across
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: the board. Now in the NHL, you're you're needing too,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: and so if that's your if you've you've kind of
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: somehow maybe moved him up the depth chart here, you're
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: feeling good about how you're going to be able to
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: be tending goal considering we don't know how long.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Like you said, Joey, the cord's out.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what you do is you've got to
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: look at the schedule ahead. You know, Cracking, I've got
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: Winnipeg tomorrow night. They've got Jose Saturday. So the next
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: two games, you've got a elite, top of the league
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: team and you've got a team that the Crack had
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: lost to six to one last week. Obviously, you know
• 28:42
  Speaker 6: both teams you want to play well against. But you've
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: got to look at your goaltender due a route now
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: right now, and say who's going to play the best
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: against that particular team. It's not necessarily who's playing the best,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: it's who's going to play the best because sometimes you
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: get an X factor with goaltenders that they always play
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: well again certain teams, or maybe it was a team
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: they were traded from, but the coaching staff will look
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: out to those two games, and they'll make those decisions
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: based on those factors.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Is five on three like impossible to overcome? And do
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you like it as a hockey player a hockey analyst
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that such a great advantage can be given in the
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: middle of a game like that, Yeah, I.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: Mean it's It's one of those things where as a player,
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: if you're the person that's on the penalty kill, you
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: want to be really careful about not putting your team
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: down another man in that situation. Having said that, it happens,
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: I've done it. I've been on both sides of it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: And when you're the team that's up two men on
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: the power plays, it's expected that you're going to get
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: some great, a high danger chances in that time that
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: you have driven. While it's five on three, it's not
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: assumed it's going to be a goal because you've still
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: got three players out there plus a goal tender that's
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: playing fantastic. And let's remember that that game last night,
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: that's five one three goal that was scored. Matt Murray
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: had forty nine percent of that save. It went off
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: his glove, but just the velocity of the shot had
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: dropped after he got a piece of it and continued
• 30:10
  Speaker 6: into the back of the net. So he makes that
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: save there, and you know the crack can win the
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: game won nothing. So it's not a given, but it's
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: probably going to be one of the best opportunities you
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: have in a game to get a goal.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, whenever you see that, you know you're going against
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: a five on three. You're just like, oh crap, well there,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: there's at least one. There's at least one goal.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Last thing for you, because we won't be able to
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: chat with you before the Sharks game coming up this weekend.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: You you tell me, you correct me if I'm wrong.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I don't remember Wayne Gretzky looking as young as what
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: these Sharks players look like. They look like they're eleven.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: And Ashley tells me it's just because I'm getting older.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't feel this way about
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: other sports. There's something about these young hockey players. The
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Badard kid in Chicago and like seven of those Sharks players,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: they all look like their six year old Al why
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: do they look so young?
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: Al? I don't know. I don't know if it's if
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: it's face washing regimes at night, if it's skin creams
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: or what. But I agree, most of them wouldn't be
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: able to grow a mustache this month for November, so
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: I question it as well. I think they get younger
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: every year.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Feels like it. Man, that is a young looking team
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: right there. Just every guy that would score, and they
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: scored a lot. Man, he looks even younger than the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: last guy. Yeah, not another team movie, that's what we
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: were watching.
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: No, no, absolutely not all right now, thanks man, We'll
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: talk to you from Chicago next week.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Sounds good. Al Kiniski joining us right here on Chuck
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: and Buck and the team will be in action tomorrow
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: night at home against the Winnipeg Jets at seven o'clock.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: So I'm very competitive hockey every single night from this team.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: But they are not getting two points there the nights
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: they're getting one point. They have a chance to get
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: to they're just not winning consistently and overtime something Lane
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Lambert is going to be working on, all right, one
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: last thing to close out our Wednesday show next on
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: kJ R. Had a perfect day from the field. Love
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: of it? Really, yeah, clerk, make it. Maybe new clothes
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  Speaker 1: just to make a shoot better. That's a nice looking
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  Speaker 1: Eddie Bauer jacket. You got there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, comfy half vest jacket.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I just felt sexier today. I came to work
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  Speaker 1: in my shooting Paperwase shooting just was awesome. Look good,
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  Speaker 1: feel good, feel good, play good or something.
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  Speaker 2: Like that, like logic to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's close it out with one last thing, Bucky,
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  Speaker 1: what you got? I am?
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  Speaker 3: I'm not one hundred percent sure what to make of
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  Speaker 3: the Holy Ani McKay thing. Obviously I read a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more into it. We found out, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: it was yesterday or early this morning that he had
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  Speaker 3: gotten that he had taken the job as a field
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  Speaker 3: coordinator with Cleveland. I did read some stuff from the manager,
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  Speaker 3: Steve Vote, where he was just like, you know, I
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: love what he brings to the table. I get he
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: was itching for more of an on field thing, where
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I think a couple of years ago he got moved
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  Speaker 3: to an on field type of job. He used to
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  Speaker 3: manage in college and and some wooden back called the
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  Speaker 3: north Woods League. I think it's called the It's like
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  Speaker 3: a college wood bat league. And so I think that
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  Speaker 3: he likes the actual coaching aspect of stuff, beyond just
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  Speaker 3: the player development or the mental side, the peak performance
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  Speaker 3: coaching part of it, player development, all of that. I
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  Speaker 3: think he likes being on like kind of in the
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  Speaker 3: mix on the field, in the dugout, doing.
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  Speaker 1: That type of thing.
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  Speaker 3: And and yet that's basically the opportunity he's getting to
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: become the field coordinator there. And yet it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: the I know the Mariners already have a guy and
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: maybe they just didn't want to give him that position.
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  Speaker 3: But the guy that they have, I don't know him
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  Speaker 3: from Adam. He just as a young kid, so they
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: thirty one years old and never played above a ball
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: that the Maritors have in that position. And is that
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: a tool or no, that's I think that's the minor
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: league coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I don't have it in front of him now.
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  Speaker 1: I looked it up last night. I don't know. I
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: don't have any inside information into this. It feels like
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: a backwards move. I know, just from their titles assistant
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  Speaker 1: general manager to some what's the title of coordinat field
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  Speaker 1: coordinator with the Cleveland Guardians. It's a smaller market, it's
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: a lower budget, it's a team that doesn't look like
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: they're set up to win like the may as much
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: as what the Mariners seem to be set up like
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: so it is strange. I don't know what went into it.
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  Speaker 1: If Andy McKay just like you said, an opportunity to
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: be a little more hands on baseball versus just being
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Sigmund Freud for the Seattle Mariners. But I do know
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: he contributed. I do know that they liked him. I
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: do know that he served a really specific role for
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: this team and the evaluation and development of players, both
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: physically and mentally. So I'm not sure what went into it.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it was just time for Andy to try something different. Yeah,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: well that's my whole thought on is.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't understand it because to me, I think
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: he was a valuable piece. It sounds like, you know,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Hollanders said, Yeah, I'm sad to see him go when
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I'm happy for him. So obviously it's something where it's
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: it's a it's a step in the direction that Andy
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: McKay is wanting to go, and yet you're going to
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: be losing something because he brought. He brought some stuff
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes that will never fully know what it
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: was that he was doing or what what what influence
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: he had in certain decisions that they made.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: All right, Ashley what do you got for one last thing?
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: I saw that it is official for sure that Jackson
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Dart will not be playing and Jameis Winston will get
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: the start. After our earlier segment talking about how Russell
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: Wilson Wilson was benched or pushed further down the bench,
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: I did some pretty intense research, okay, between the Phil
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: Collins song I Missed Again and our lyrics have I
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: benched again? And I am now more convinced than ever
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: that Phil did write it about this moment.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I do you have more evidence?
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Well, let's just say not today, but I might have
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: more evidence for you tomorrow.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: There might be a duet. Oh okay, that's how close
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: the song is. I don't barely need to replace anything.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I'm benched again, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, so stay tuned.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, Yes, I actually played a Phil
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Collins song called I've Never heard I Missed Again, I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Missed Again, and it sounded very much like I'm benched again. Yeah,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and so anyway, that's what she's referring to. Yes, and
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: now she's looked further into the song and realizes the lyrics.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: I've written all the words out. I've barely changed any
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: that's crazy.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: All right, well, I look forward to that also, I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: want you to look forward to Stove. The podcast will
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: have its debut this week. Anders and I back for
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: another season of off season marin Er Talk. We're going
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: to record our first episode tomorrow after this show, and
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: so we'll have our first thoughts on the off season.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Seems to be a clamoring people can't wait to start
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: talking about the off season. How to get these Mariners
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: over the hump and into the world series once and
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: for all. We we'll start diving into that project tomorrow,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: Andrews and myself, So I'll let you know where you
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: can find it and how long of the first episode
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: we're going to do, because we might go sixteen hours.
• 37:19
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