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Nothing Cool Ever Happens to Me · I Think Less of You Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: I've now traveled via plane for the first time in some time.
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SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, that's I have interesting things.
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't that interesting.
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SPEAKER_00: Thankfully, it wasn't that interesting of a flight.
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SPEAKER_00: So I don't have any complaints.
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SPEAKER_00: I was expecting I hear a lot of post COVID.
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SPEAKER_00: I've certainly heard a lot of horror stories about flying and the flying
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SPEAKER_00: experience,
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SPEAKER_00: especially in airports.
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SPEAKER_00: And it really wasn't bad.
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I have never been lucky enough to have one of those crazy
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fight,
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like fight flights.
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SPEAKER_02: I would be absolutely beside myself, like freaked out if that happened.
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SPEAKER_02: But I'm also like nothing good ever happens to me.
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SPEAKER_02: Nothing interesting ever happens to me, Leigh.
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SPEAKER_00: Historically, I flew pretty much exclusively on Southwest.
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SPEAKER_00: I was big into flying Southwest.
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We used to fly a decent...
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We were never power flyers or anything,
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but flew a decent bit.
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SPEAKER_00: And this is my first flight on...
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SPEAKER_00: Delta, and I really like Delta.
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SPEAKER_00: Delta does a very good job.
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SPEAKER_00: I was actually impressed.
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SPEAKER_02: This is a United podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I'm just kidding.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just kidding.
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SPEAKER_00: So Delta, I'm a tall person.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm so, what am I, 6'1"?
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SPEAKER_00: You're not that tall.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm 6'1".
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SPEAKER_00: What do you mean not that tall?
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SPEAKER_00: Not that tall.
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SPEAKER_00: It's pretty tall.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it's tall.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's taller than me.
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SPEAKER_00: Tell that to all the short folk.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: I always get crap because I'm like, I'm very tall and flying.
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SPEAKER_02: I number one, I am bougie.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'd like to say that I do.
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SPEAKER_02: I look like I fly economy.
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I do fly economy all the time,
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though,
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when I'm with my kids,
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not when I'm not with them.
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It gets expensive buying about a bunch of tickets and above
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above economy.
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SPEAKER_02: My kids got to fly business once back from Europe.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, this is never happening again.
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SPEAKER_02: Enjoy this now.
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SPEAKER_02: This isn't ever going to happen.
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SPEAKER_02: We had these crazy expensive tickets.
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SPEAKER_02: We were supposed to go to Oman and then Tel Aviv for Christmas.
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SPEAKER_02: And October 7th happened.
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So my very expensive tickets,
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I was like,
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well,
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what am I going to do with this?
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SPEAKER_02: And we changed them because...
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SPEAKER_02: then you don't want the tickets to go to nothing.
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SPEAKER_02: So we just had really baller seats flying home from Europe.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, look, kids, like this is never going to happen again.
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SPEAKER_02: So please, please, please enjoy this.
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SPEAKER_02: You're never going to be in business until you're paying.
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SPEAKER_02: But that was kind of fun.
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SPEAKER_00: I flew to England in economy plus once, which was very nice.
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SPEAKER_00: They gave me socks.
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SPEAKER_00: I got, I had more room.
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SPEAKER_00: It wasn't like the personalized pods.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm aware of my, my wife used to get flown by her company and business.
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SPEAKER_00: And she was always talking.
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SPEAKER_00: She really got a pod.
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SPEAKER_00: She was a little, she was hanging out.
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SPEAKER_00: And, um, but, um,
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no.
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SPEAKER_00: So Delta, I am a tall person.
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There was actually a lot of Lego with I am used to you have to
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push your put your
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SPEAKER_00: carry on below your own seat.
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SPEAKER_00: Delta, you put it in the seat in front and my carry on wasn't that big.
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SPEAKER_00: So I had a lot of plane.
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SPEAKER_02: Were you on that?
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SPEAKER_02: You had to put your carry on under your own seat.
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Southwest Southwest was always you had to tuck them underneath
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your own seat.
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SPEAKER_02: No, you do it in the seat in front of you always.
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SPEAKER_00: No, it was definitely underneath my own seat.
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SPEAKER_00: I remember it well.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I haven't flown Southwest in like 20 years.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so see, there you go.
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SPEAKER_00: But...
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SPEAKER_00: But my carry-in wasn't that big,
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SPEAKER_00: and there was actually plenty of room for me to,
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SPEAKER_00: like,
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SPEAKER_00: stretch my legs out into that space under the seat,
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SPEAKER_00: which was very nice.
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They still have the little screen on the seat in front of you,
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which Southwest has.
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SPEAKER_02: Not all planes.
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SPEAKER_02: Not all planes, though.
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Especially,
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like,
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with Delta and United,
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a lot of the liveries were moving the seat back up.
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SPEAKER_02: They were very into it.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, I know, but they're so heavy.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: In newer versions, like...
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I am aware that the move is to assume everyone's bringing their
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own screen on the plane.
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SPEAKER_00: But no, it was my kids were all about the screen.
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My daughter,
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my youngest daughter is super into Harry Potter right now,
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unfortunately.
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SPEAKER_00: So she she watched one of the Harry Potter movies on the little screen.
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SPEAKER_00: My other daughter played games.
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SPEAKER_00: But it was it was a very it was a very nice flight.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was a nice short flight.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was like, what, a little over two hours, so it wasn't bad.
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SPEAKER_02: I have a flight like that tomorrow morning.
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SPEAKER_02: The morning after,
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SPEAKER_02: well,
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I'm going to a concert tonight with a bunch of friends and a
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bunch of my husband's
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SPEAKER_02: friends.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's going to be a very late night to have a concert in Fort Collins.
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SPEAKER_02: And then...
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get home at like midnight and i have to be at dia at five so
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what uh what what
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terrible terrible singing troupe are you going to listen to um
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singing troupe are
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you 85 uh actually we're gonna go see rabbit earl keen i don't
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know who that is so
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SPEAKER_02: Um, it's country-ish.
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SPEAKER_02: He was, uh, Lyle Lovett's roommate at University of Texas.
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SPEAKER_02: He's just an older, like, you know, Texas country.
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SPEAKER_00: He has a career because he was Lyle Lovett's roommate?
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SPEAKER_02: No, it's just this, like, the Texas music scene.
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SPEAKER_00: Cool.
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SPEAKER_00: That's so cool.
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SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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SPEAKER_00: Roommate?
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SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_02: I will always think of...
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SPEAKER_02: A friend's Christmas card one year.
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SPEAKER_02: She did a whole setup for one of his songs.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like Merry Christmas from the family.
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And it's like you had to run to the gas station to get a bunch
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of last minute
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SPEAKER_02: things for a family.
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SPEAKER_02: This is all what the song's about.
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SPEAKER_02: That's me.
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SPEAKER_00: That's me every holiday.
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She set up all the things like on a shelf that was,
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you know,
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making a call back to the song.
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SPEAKER_00: That is 100 percent.
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SPEAKER_00: I am at every holiday.
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SPEAKER_00: I am the vacation or anything.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm the guy who gets dispatched.
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SPEAKER_00: I like being the guy who gets dispatched off to go buy stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: This was my role.
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SPEAKER_00: That's my function.
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SPEAKER_00: I kind of,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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just power down until I'm required to go to the grocery store
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on Christmas Day to
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SPEAKER_00: buy something.
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SPEAKER_02: But I do.
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SPEAKER_02: I end up doing that just because I'm spastic.
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SPEAKER_02: And my husband says that I'm like an Eastern European grandma.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm one of those people who's like, no, there's not enough food.
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SPEAKER_02: We have to be able to feed an army.
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SPEAKER_02: We don't have this one obscure ingredient.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll go out and go get it.
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It is always better to have too much than to have too little
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with any event with many people.
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always have so much food i i bagged out of going last night my
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husband went down to
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one of his really good friends parents house in littleton i
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didn't want to go i had
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a really bad headache so i was like no thanks um women and
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their headaches i know i
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actually really don't get headaches all the time but i was like
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i don't want to
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SPEAKER_02: drive an hour and a half fair
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SPEAKER_02: sit around backyard when I don't feel good.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, but I sent a salad for him to take with it.
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SPEAKER_02: It was like an orzo salad and I made it up for like 40 people.
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And apparently it was a big hit because it came back when no
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leftovers and I was a
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SPEAKER_02: little bit embarrassed.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I didn't make enough.
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SPEAKER_00: You,
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SPEAKER_00: you may just write about,
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SPEAKER_00: probably people overeat,
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SPEAKER_00: overate a bit more than they would otherwise have.
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SPEAKER_00: Cause they, they, they didn't want to leave some behind.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: No,
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SPEAKER_02: I am one of those people who like always has so many things and I'm like,
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SPEAKER_02: oh,
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I need this one random thing that no one will end up seeing or
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using or ever
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SPEAKER_02: considering.
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SPEAKER_02: But I had to run out to the store to get it last minute.
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SPEAKER_02: Do you do that when you're traveling?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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I generally have – my theory on packing for travel is there – I
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try to bring
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SPEAKER_00: everything I'm going to need.
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SPEAKER_00: But there – basically,
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I make sure that I have everything that I wouldn't be able to
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replace on the fly.
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So,
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like,
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extra contacts,
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my glasses in case something happens to my contacts –
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SPEAKER_00: Any kind of prescription thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I said,
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SPEAKER_00: I try to pack everything,
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but I don't worry too much about it because my philosophy is if
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I have to run to
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SPEAKER_00: the store to get something,
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SPEAKER_00: that's fine.
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SPEAKER_00: I have forgotten to pack socks before.
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When you forget to pack socks,
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it sucks,
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but I can go buy a pack of socks.
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SPEAKER_00: These are sold everywhere.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to...
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SPEAKER_00: Afghanistan,
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which incidentally I saw on Twitter roundaboutly that I don't
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know if it was real
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SPEAKER_00: or a joke.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it was real.
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The Afghani government is posting things inviting Western
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tourists to come.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think they do actually want Western tourists.
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SPEAKER_00: Which is really interesting, too.
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SPEAKER_02: I would consider go.
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SPEAKER_00: You shouldn't go.
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SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't recommend you to go.
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SPEAKER_00: I'd consider it.
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SPEAKER_00: If I were younger and I didn't have a family,
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SPEAKER_00: I actually would probably be like,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: if I could get a cheap flight.
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I mean,
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I would even consider it,
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but well,
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not me because I would offend.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm very loud.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not someone who doesn't blend in well.
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SPEAKER_00: You've traveled a decent bit in that part of the world.
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Have you ever been to a place where you were required to wear a
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burqa or wear a
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SPEAKER_00: headscarf when you were in public?
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Not in public,
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public,
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but in,
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I mean,
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I'm Greek Orthodox and Orthodox churches do.
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, you know what I mean.
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SPEAKER_00: No,
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SPEAKER_02: I know,
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SPEAKER_02: but,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: the only time I've ever had to,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: cover my head was when we were in Georgia,
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SPEAKER_02: of all places,
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SPEAKER_02: so.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: No, I was...
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It's just that I was like an outdoor monastery and it's a
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different situation.
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SPEAKER_02: I was I was kind of slapped for not having my head covered.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, nice.
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SPEAKER_02: So that was a wake up call.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was like, whoa, that just happened.
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SPEAKER_00: No,
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that's I know that a lot of the Middle Eastern countries are
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they the rules that
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they impose on the women who live there aren't the same as what
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they impose on
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SPEAKER_00: people who visit.
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SPEAKER_00: They want people to come visit.
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SPEAKER_02: And I haven't really been to the Middle East outside.
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SPEAKER_02: I've been to Israel.
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SPEAKER_00: You said you were in Oman or you were going to Oman or something.
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SPEAKER_02: Oman.
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SPEAKER_02: Jordan.
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SPEAKER_02: Wait, can you hear me?
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SPEAKER_00: Now I can.
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SPEAKER_00: Oman, like Jordan.
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SPEAKER_00: Jordan.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, well, that's still the Middle East.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but Jordan doesn't make you cover.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Jordan's different.
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SPEAKER_00: Is he the king now?
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SPEAKER_00: I think the king of Jordan was on Star Trek.
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SPEAKER_00: I think he was on Star Trek.
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SPEAKER_00: He was on Star Trek Enterprise.
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SPEAKER_02: And his wife that I used to really love and admire.
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SPEAKER_00: She's Palestinian, I believe, yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Some things changed.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Things have changed.
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Yeah,
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no,
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that and I didn't actually end up getting to go to Jordan
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because that all happened.
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SPEAKER_02: We were supposed to go.
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SPEAKER_02: We were supposed to fly into Amman the week before Christmas.
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SPEAKER_02: And then I had it timed.
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SPEAKER_02: I think you were going to Israel.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, a friend of mine was going to pick me up at the border cross.
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I was taking my family like they were going to pick us up at
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the border crossing
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and we were going to spend Christmas Eve in Bethlehem and then
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fly out of Tel Aviv
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SPEAKER_02: and meet our family in Athens.
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SPEAKER_02: And we ended up having to scrap the whole thing.
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SPEAKER_02: We were like, well, we'll just keep Athens.
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SPEAKER_02: But because of October 7th,
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so many people were using Athens as a base to fly in and out of
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Tel Aviv that we
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SPEAKER_02: just,
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the flights were so expensive for the rest of our family to get
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to Greece.
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SPEAKER_02: We had to scrap the entire thing.
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SPEAKER_02: We went to the Dolomites instead.
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SPEAKER_02: We went to Bulsano.
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SPEAKER_02: What are the Dolomites?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: We were so far north in Italy.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like the South Tyrolean mountains.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, the Tyrolean Alps.
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SPEAKER_02: So we were in a part of Italy that speaks German.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, nice.
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SPEAKER_02: Which was really fun.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: We were there with my German family, so it all worked.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no.
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SPEAKER_00: Like I said,
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SPEAKER_00: if I were a younger man and didn't have a family,
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SPEAKER_00: I might actually go to Afghanistan if I could find a cheap flight.
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I think that would be – it's supposed to be a beautiful part of
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the world in a very
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SPEAKER_00: kind of weird and desolate way.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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sir it's a very similar like um it looks a lot like colorado if
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you look at a lot
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of the mountain ranges like it's high plains and large peaks
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it's no colorado oh
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god no i walked right into that one you did um also similar to
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colorado it's run by
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SPEAKER_00: an oppressive regime
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SPEAKER_02: You know what?
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SPEAKER_02: Actually,
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SPEAKER_02: so in my past life,
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SPEAKER_02: I used to work in the Senate and I did for service,
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SPEAKER_02: but then I also did military affairs and I got to tour.
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There is a high altitude aviation school in Gypsum up in the
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mountains,
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like near Vail.
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SPEAKER_02: And I got to ride in an Apache and we landed on top of a mountain.
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And it was like the cool,
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it was one of the coolest like CODELs I ever got to do.
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SPEAKER_00: That sounds like fun.
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Yeah,
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but they do it here because our topography is a lot like
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Afghanistan's.
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SPEAKER_00: No, no.
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SPEAKER_02: Apparently our leadership, according to you, but.
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SPEAKER_00: Tracks.
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the uh no but yeah so anyway i saw that and i thought you know
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and i was like well
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that's that's fascinating if they're act and the afghanistan is
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actively trying to
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get people to um like i don't know if this is a real ad or what
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but uh it has it
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was basically like that now now now that we've gotten you out
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come back in i would
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SPEAKER_00: love to
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love love to go to iran i don't know that i would go to
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afghanistan i'd go to
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persia but not not as it is but i mean i've been on the border
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that's as close as
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i'm getting anytime soon but if things changed that would be
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number one on my list
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i would that whole part of the world i find fairly interesting
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i i think but as an
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SPEAKER_00: american i don't know
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SPEAKER_00: I'd be worried about being kidnapped as a chip, as a bargaining chip.
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SPEAKER_02: Well, see, I just beat that by being really annoying.
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SPEAKER_02: No one's going to want to kidnap me.
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SPEAKER_02: You'd have to deal with me.
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SPEAKER_00: Like The Ransom of Red Chief.
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SPEAKER_00: Have you read that?
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: You haven't read The Ransom of Red Chief?
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SPEAKER_00: Are you surprised?
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SPEAKER_00: The Ransom of Red Chief is a delightful story by O.
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SPEAKER_00: Henry,
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SPEAKER_00: who I assume you've at least heard of,
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SPEAKER_00: correct?
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: O. Henry?
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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It is about some guys kidnap the son of a local well-to-do man
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and take him off to
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SPEAKER_00: a cave nearby and hold him for ransom.
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And they send a note to the father and they say,
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like,
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you know,
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give us however much money.
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SPEAKER_00: And the father responds with, keep him.
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SPEAKER_00: Um,
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SPEAKER_00: so the,
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SPEAKER_00: and the kid insists on being called red chief,
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SPEAKER_00: uh,
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SPEAKER_00: and,
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SPEAKER_00: uh,
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SPEAKER_00: it just is a living,
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SPEAKER_00: just a living nightmare to the,
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SPEAKER_00: to these guys who've kidnapped him.
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Uh,
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and they're like,
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they,
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they,
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they don't want,
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they don't want to be around the kid.
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SPEAKER_00: Eddie.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, it gets worse and worse.
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Like the,
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the,
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the kid is forcing them to endlessly play cowboys and Indians
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with him.
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um until in the end as i recall the father they end up having
16:55
to pay the father to
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take the kid back no that would be me they would be like no
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please just anything
17:05
anything take her back we can't anymore with this like i i
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would be an awful kidnap
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SPEAKER_02: target
17:12
SPEAKER_00: So no, like Istanbul, I would really like to go to Istanbul again.
17:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
17:16
SPEAKER_00: They actually do.
17:17
SPEAKER_00: There are a lot of people who go to Istanbul for tourism still.
17:20
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's still, but I'm sure it isn't that dangerous for a Westerner.
17:25
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not.
17:25
SPEAKER_02: And medical tourism is a really big thing there.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: I actually really want to go.
17:31
SPEAKER_02: I really want to go.
17:32
SPEAKER_02: You can get like a full workup for like 500 bucks.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: A full workup of what?
17:36
SPEAKER_02: They'll do like...
17:38
SPEAKER_02: No, like anything you want.
17:39
SPEAKER_02: And then you can get all your dental work for like 25 bucks.
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SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: What do they use?
17:46
SPEAKER_00: The lira?
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SPEAKER_02: No, I think they're on their euro, aren't they?
17:51
SPEAKER_00: Oh, they would be on the euro.
17:53
SPEAKER_00: That's right there.
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SPEAKER_02: No, not everyone.
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SPEAKER_02: Not everyone in the EU is because like Poland isn't.
17:58
SPEAKER_02: But I feel like they are.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm checking now to see.
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SPEAKER_00: But anyway, I assume things are cheaper there.
18:07
SPEAKER_00: I heard you could smoke pretty much anywhere there.
18:11
SPEAKER_00: Oh, my God.
18:12
SPEAKER_02: You can smoke everywhere.
18:13
SPEAKER_00: That's not true.
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SPEAKER_00: I was actually curiously looking it up.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: Apparently, in most of Europe now, smoking indoors is illegal.
18:19
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
18:20
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
18:20
SPEAKER_02: Indoors.
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SPEAKER_02: But that's okay.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, everywhere.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm surprised because the Europeans used to be all about the cigarettes.
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SPEAKER_00: They still are.
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SPEAKER_00: They still are.
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So I don't know why they're putting up with being told they're
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not allowed to smoke indoors.
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I'm assuming they just aren't really putting up with it and
18:37
they're just doing what they want.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm okay with the indoors thing.
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I don't really want to be eating a very expensive steak and
18:45
breathing in your cigarette smoke.
18:48
I'm fine with the French solution where they have the screened
18:52
in front area.
18:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I heard they banned outside.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: I know they're trying.
18:59
SPEAKER_00: They're trying to ban it on the outdoor cafes.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know how you're going to put up with.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: No, they can't.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, at some point, at some point, they're going to rise up.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, this is what the French.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: I think Americans aren't aware of the level to which Europeans smoke.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: They're wild.
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I think the English smoke somewhat less,
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but but the somewhat less than the French.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: The Greeks are the ones that are, like, nonstop chain.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Which won't surprise you, but... Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's kind of ingrained in a lot of their cultural things.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: So, but... Yeah, so, anyway...
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Getting back to where I started a while ago,
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I flew,
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I flew to San Antonio,
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Texas.
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SPEAKER_00: It was a wonderful town.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: It was very,
19:47
SPEAKER_00: as you may have heard in the news,
19:48
SPEAKER_00: very,
19:49
SPEAKER_00: very rainy,
19:50
SPEAKER_00: uh,
19:51
SPEAKER_00: rained almost the entire time we were there.
19:53
SPEAKER_00: Um,
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SPEAKER_00: There was one night.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: The one day was nice.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: We won the river walk.
19:58
SPEAKER_00: The river walk was it was fine.
19:59
SPEAKER_00: It was touristy.
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SPEAKER_00: I got hounded.
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SPEAKER_00: I got hounded by a guy in the river walk.
20:04
SPEAKER_00: It was insane.
20:06
They have I'd only encountered this before in New York City in
20:10
Little Italy.
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um they have people who stay we're it was near lunchtime we're
20:16
walking up the river
20:16
walk and there are people who are standing out out in front of
20:19
the restaurants
20:20
along the river walk trying to drum up business being like hey
20:23
come in here oh yeah
20:24
no they totally family come on in here they totally do that
20:28
they stand out with the
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menus and they're like come on in here we have a special but
20:32
it's a very european
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SPEAKER_02: thing i hate
20:35
SPEAKER_00: So, but we were done with the Riverwalk.
20:38
We were going to go off to up the stairs to the street to go
20:43
head back to our car.
20:45
SPEAKER_00: And this one guy,
20:46
SPEAKER_00: this one guy says,
20:47
SPEAKER_00: hey,
20:47
SPEAKER_00: like,
20:48
SPEAKER_00: we're walking by,
20:48
SPEAKER_00: he starts listing off the various,
20:51
SPEAKER_00: the various things they're offering.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, no, no, no, thank you.
20:55
And so as I'm walking away,
20:57
he's just going,
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what,
20:58
you're not going to stay and listen to me?
20:59
SPEAKER_00: That's pretty rude.
21:00
SPEAKER_00: That seems rude to me.
21:01
SPEAKER_00: Why are you being rude to me?
21:02
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, what?
21:04
SPEAKER_00: That's weird.
21:05
SPEAKER_00: What kind of a sale is this?
21:07
SPEAKER_00: Do you think I'm going to come back now?
21:10
SPEAKER_00: I didn't ask you to address me.
21:12
SPEAKER_00: I didn't ask to talk to you.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: It annoyed me.
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There's a restaurant I absolutely love in Krakow that always
21:19
has people out front
21:22
SPEAKER_02: doing that,
21:22
SPEAKER_02: and it's a restaurant next door.
21:25
But the strip club also always has people out,
21:28
and they'll run up to dudes...
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SPEAKER_00: They used to have those in New York,
21:33
SPEAKER_00: in New York City,
21:34
SPEAKER_00: back when Times Square was,
21:35
SPEAKER_00: before Disney Disneyfied Times Square,
21:37
SPEAKER_00: and it was all strip clubs.
21:41
SPEAKER_00: Famously, there'd be, there were people who collected these things.
21:46
There would be people who would be standing in front of all the
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strip clubs with
21:50
SPEAKER_00: flyers showing what shows are going on that night.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: They'd just be like, hey, hey, take a flyer, buddy, take a flyer.
21:57
SPEAKER_00: That used to be a big thing in New York.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: Back when New York had more character and was less of a dull place.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: Are you going to throw up?
22:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying not to.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: What is going on with you?
22:13
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
22:14
SPEAKER_00: Good Lord.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: You all right?
22:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: Something got me.
22:20
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
22:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
22:22
SPEAKER_00: My story was that repulsive to you.
22:24
SPEAKER_02: My word.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: No, something just like, I don't know.
22:27
SPEAKER_02: Do you ever get like waves?
22:29
SPEAKER_02: This is such a chick thing.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: I just randomly like my stomach is not good.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, I just made the weirdest face.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm always making really weird faces.
22:41
SPEAKER_00: So you have a very expressive face.
22:43
SPEAKER_02: I really do.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: But overall, San Antonio, nice.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: The Alamo, disappointing.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: Everyone comes away from the Alamo saying it.
22:54
The basement,
22:56
it isn't this big,
22:57
but I'd been before,
22:58
so I was aware it was small.
23:00
SPEAKER_00: But, you know, it's cool.
23:06
There's a donut chain down there called Shipley's Donuts,
23:09
which we went to.
23:10
I bought them for my family multiple days because I was up
23:16
before everyone else.
23:17
SPEAKER_00: Everyone else chose to stay on.
23:19
SPEAKER_02: Did you get the, like, kolachas?
23:21
SPEAKER_00: No, we didn't get any kolaches.
23:22
SPEAKER_00: I've heard their kolaches aren't very good at Chipley's.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: That's what I've heard.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm a Coloradan.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: I have no opinion on these things.
23:29
SPEAKER_02: I just know that any time I go to Texas,
23:33
one of my friends picks me up at the airport with a huge thing
23:37
of them in the back.
23:37
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, dude, I'm going to have a bite of one.
23:39
SPEAKER_02: But thank you for that.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: They're very interesting.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: It's weird because I think it's like a Czech thing.
23:45
Texas is so weird because it's this weird fusion of German and
23:49
Mexican culture.
23:51
SPEAKER_02: Have you seen the Chexican guy?
23:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, you're not on Instagram.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not on Instagram.
23:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to have to send you this thing.
23:58
SPEAKER_02: This guy is amazing.
23:59
SPEAKER_02: His account is like Chexican something, and he is the best music.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: Send me,
24:06
SPEAKER_00: just direct message it to me on Instagram,
24:08
and it can go with all the other things you direct message me
24:10
on Instagram that I
24:11
SPEAKER_00: never look at or read because I never open Instagram.
24:14
SPEAKER_02: No, I know.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: This is why I text them to you now.
24:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's great.
24:18
SPEAKER_02: You've noticed that, right?
24:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't like Instagram.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand Instagram.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand these kids and their TikToks.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Instagram is great.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: Instagram actually is paying me a lot more.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure it is.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure it is.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad for you.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't even use it very much.
24:36
Just because...
24:37
Look,
24:37
this falls into the category...
24:39
There's a lot of music where...
24:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't personally like it,
24:44
SPEAKER_00: but I can see the musical merit,
24:47
SPEAKER_00: too,
24:47
SPEAKER_00: and I can see why other people like it.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: It just isn't for me.
24:51
SPEAKER_00: Instagram falls into that category for me.
24:53
SPEAKER_00: If that is what you were into,
24:54
SPEAKER_00: if what you were into is watching other people's vacation slideshows.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: You just don't really hate pictures.
25:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm just not that into pictures.
25:01
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm a reading guy, not a visual guy.
25:05
SPEAKER_00: Although I say that I like movies, so, you know, and I don't...
25:09
If that were true,
25:09
I wouldn't watch movies and be like,
25:11
why don't you read a book?
25:12
SPEAKER_00: I'm not that kind of person, so I don't know.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: Isn't reading something visual?
25:17
SPEAKER_00: Sort of, but it works very differently.
25:20
SPEAKER_00: That doesn't work as well as a gotch as you think it does.
25:23
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: I know you're feeling pleased with yourself right now.
25:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm not, actually.
25:27
SPEAKER_00: That was a misfire.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying not to barf.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: Well, there's that.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
25:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: My stomach is weird.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes, do you ever get that?
25:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay,
25:37
SPEAKER_02: you're going to think I'm insane,
25:38
SPEAKER_02: but it's a day that ends in Y.
25:41
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes when I'm drinking tea,
25:43
SPEAKER_02: it makes me,
25:44
SPEAKER_02: like,
25:46
SPEAKER_02: makes my stomach flip.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: I rarely drink tea, but I've never had that issue.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: I like tea right now.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: I like tea.
25:55
SPEAKER_00: Hot beverages are for winter.
25:57
SPEAKER_00: It's not winter.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Normally, when I'm drinking a hot beverage, I drink coffee.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: I drink about two cups of coffee a day when it's cold out.
26:04
SPEAKER_02: I think it's 64 degrees in the basement at my townhouse.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have the air conditioning on.
26:10
SPEAKER_00: It's the high of the 90s today here.
26:13
SPEAKER_00: I don't like the heat.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: I'm not happy about this.
26:15
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't like the heat either.
26:16
SPEAKER_02: But in this townhouse, since it's like three stories, the AC.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: All the cold air drops down to the bottom.
26:23
SPEAKER_02: It's all just stuck in the basement.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: So for it to be livable upstairs.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: Oop.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: Always me punching the microphone.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: I would never leave the basement in that case.
26:35
SPEAKER_02: OK, so I just ordered this.
26:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm thinking back to travel.
26:41
SPEAKER_02: I buy really ridiculous stuff.
26:43
SPEAKER_02: I just saw an ad.
26:44
SPEAKER_02: No, never.
26:45
SPEAKER_02: Me, nothing.
26:46
SPEAKER_02: I just saw an ad on Instagram for a travel fan.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: That packs really small and it pops up.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Because I need air movement.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: I can't survive without air movement.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: And we're going to Scotland in a few weeks.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: And even though Scotland is colder, I'm going to be hot in the hotel.
27:10
they don't have air conditioning no no not windows i assume
27:15
their windows don't
27:16
open all the way like in england um they have their stupid
27:19
little dope you can't
27:20
fall out the window yeah those things we are staying at a hotel
27:26
that is more adult
27:28
so i don't think it's going to have that but oh that's right
27:32
you're going to see
27:33
SPEAKER_02: you're going to see oasis right i am yeah we are um
27:38
SPEAKER_00: Put a pin in it.
27:40
SPEAKER_00: Put a pin in it real quick.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: Unpin it.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: Where were we?
27:43
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember where we were now.
27:47
SPEAKER_02: I don't either, but it's okay.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: But you know what?
27:48
SPEAKER_02: It's okay.
27:50
SPEAKER_02: We were talking about how I'm going to Scotland.
27:53
SPEAKER_00: Yes, you're going to see Oasis.
27:54
SPEAKER_00: You're going to see Oasis.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
27:57
SPEAKER_00: And they'll play that one song that people like of theirs.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: They'll play Wonderwall.
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SPEAKER_02: There's another one.
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SPEAKER_02: There's also Champagne Supernova.
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SPEAKER_00: I've never even heard of that.
28:08
SPEAKER_02: And Don't Look Back in Anger, which is my favorite.
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SPEAKER_02: Or The Bushes, which is also a good one.
28:15
SPEAKER_00: Bleep that.
28:16
SPEAKER_00: Bleep that.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: Come on.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: Claim it up, Courtney.
28:22
SPEAKER_00: They have apparently managed to stay together through this tour so far,
28:28
SPEAKER_00: which is,
28:28
SPEAKER_00: oh,
28:28
SPEAKER_00: they haven't.
28:29
SPEAKER_02: I mean, well, yeah, like through this tour so far.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: No, it hasn't blown up.
28:35
SPEAKER_02: They haven't killed each other yet.
28:37
SPEAKER_02: I am on the lookout for them, too.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, make it to show 15.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: That's all you have to do.
28:43
Just get through 15 shows,
28:45
and then they could break up on the stage in front of us.
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SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
28:49
SPEAKER_00: That would probably enhance the experience.
28:53
SPEAKER_02: That would.
28:54
SPEAKER_00: As long as they hit Wonderwall.
28:57
SPEAKER_02: I actually, Wonderwall is my least favorite song.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: Oh, man.
29:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: The one song of theirs I know the name of.
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SPEAKER_02: No, like, it's good.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: It's just, you know.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: Actually, I don't like Champagne Zebra Nova.
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SPEAKER_02: I do like Wonderwall.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: But, like, everyone, I don't know.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: Don't Look Back and Anger is my favorite.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: You're like, okay, I don't care.
29:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you like it.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: I don't like their music, but other people can.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: This is the furthest I will have traveled for a concert.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: I will say that.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a Swifty.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: I have a lot of friends that traveled for Taylor Swift.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm not.
29:41
SPEAKER_00: Pretty much all of the groups that I like are dead.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: Years ago, I actually went and saw Melanie.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: I was very excited because she's still alive.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: Melanie, you heard the song Brand New Key.
29:58
SPEAKER_00: You've heard Brand New Key.
30:00
SPEAKER_00: I got a brand new pair of roller skates.
30:02
SPEAKER_00: You got a brand new key.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: But you also don't have to sing anymore.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: Shut up.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: No, I cannot sing as high as.
30:14
SPEAKER_02: I know you can sing.
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SPEAKER_02: I know you've said you have a good voice.
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SPEAKER_00: I am a tenor, too.
30:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm not singing that song like Melanie sang it.
30:24
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, she actually died a couple years ago.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: It was very sad.
30:28
SPEAKER_00: But this was a couple years before that.
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SPEAKER_00: She was touring with her son.
30:32
SPEAKER_00: And I went and saw it.
30:34
SPEAKER_00: I actually told my wife she wasn't interested in going.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: I said, I'm going to go see this.
30:40
SPEAKER_00: So I just went by myself overnight.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: It was like...
30:43
five hours from my house so i went to the state of the hotel
30:46
went and saw a really
30:47
good show i really i really do it and i was glad i got to see
30:49
her because she was
30:50
she was at woodstock she was an old hippie chick and i i got to
30:54
i got to see her
30:55
before she passed it was so that was might have been the
30:58
furthest i ever traveled
30:59
for a show otherwise i i saw growing up a bunch of shows in the
31:03
nearby uh like paul
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SPEAKER_00: simon and um
31:09
Brian Wilson like I said most people I like are dead I like
31:12
that generation of
31:14
music I think my first concert I'm trying to think my first
31:21
concert oh this is
31:23
SPEAKER_02: really bad my first concert was Dave Matthews live at Red Rocks
31:28
SPEAKER_02: Like the Dave Matthews live at Red Rocks recording was my first concert.
31:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what the, I take it this is a particularly notable concert.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: It was a CD.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: Like it was an album that was released.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
31:41
SPEAKER_02: Dave live at Red Rocks was like.
31:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure I've heard a Dave Matthews song.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: I probably have, but I don't remember it.
31:49
SPEAKER_02: Teenage me.
31:50
SPEAKER_02: Teenage me just took a shot in the heart.
31:54
SPEAKER_00: We've had this conversation.
31:55
SPEAKER_00: I wasn't listening to popular music.
31:56
I now know more popular music that was popular when I was that
32:00
age than I did when
32:01
SPEAKER_00: I was that age.
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SPEAKER_02: I grew up in Littleton, Colorado.
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SPEAKER_02: Dave Matthews is like our...
32:11
SPEAKER_00: When I was in college,
32:12
SPEAKER_00: Rockapella came and sang at my college,
32:14
SPEAKER_00: and that was pretty great.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: I went and saw that.
32:17
SPEAKER_02: 311 came to my college and Huba staying.
32:20
SPEAKER_00: This is nowhere near as cool.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: You know who Rockapella is, right?
32:27
SPEAKER_00: You don't know who Rockapella is?
32:29
SPEAKER_00: No.
32:30
The group from where in the world is Carmen Sandiego,
32:34
the one who sang the intro music.
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SPEAKER_00: They're an acapella group that sang.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: You don't know.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: Oh, my God.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: That's so sad.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: Sir,
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SPEAKER_02: you don't know any songs that always...
32:48
SPEAKER_00: You didn't watch Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego?
32:51
SPEAKER_02: Of course I did, but I've watched a million things since then.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I love Rockefeller.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: You're too much today.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: They were great.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: I'm too much every day.
33:05
SPEAKER_00: Too much is my default state.
33:07
SPEAKER_02: No, that's me.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
33:09
SPEAKER_02: You can't take my thing.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what we're talking about at this point.
33:15
SPEAKER_00: San Antonio, very nice.
33:16
SPEAKER_00: It was great.
33:17
SPEAKER_02: Did you guys go to Hopscotch?
33:19
SPEAKER_02: I don't think this is your style, but did you go to Hopscotch?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know what Hopscotch is.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like an art.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like an interactive art display thing.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: My wife took the girls.
33:32
SPEAKER_02: It's really, really cool.
33:33
SPEAKER_02: I like it a lot.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: It's better than we have Meow Wolf in Colorado, but that's a little...
33:39
SPEAKER_02: It's a little crazy.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: They have like an actual satanic temple in Meow Wolf.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: So hopscotch was a little bit more palatable.
33:47
SPEAKER_00: What the?
33:47
SPEAKER_00: What?
33:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how I'm going to explain this.
33:54
SPEAKER_02: So there's this thing called Meow Wolf in Denver.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: They took over this giant space.
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SPEAKER_02: It's this big like interactive art thing.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: So you walk through and it's like you're in this different world.
34:06
and there's really cool rooms you can go to and some and a
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satanic temple okay well
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that's just one side no no no no no no no no you don't you
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don't get to you don't
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get that well you know that's like in the weird temple room it
34:20
was a great
34:20
SPEAKER_00: experience other than that satanic temple but otherwise great
34:26
There's also a room that looks very much like the organ from
34:31
which we are all birthed.
34:34
SPEAKER_02: And you walk through it, and it's a little weird.
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SPEAKER_00: And a satanic temple.
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I know it seems like I'm getting hung up on this satanic temple
34:44
that exists here.
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SPEAKER_02: I was trying to whiz right past it.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: Why is there a satanic temple there?
34:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: It's art.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
34:54
SPEAKER_00: No, that isn't art.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: That's a temple to Baphomet.
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SPEAKER_00: No, that's not art.
35:02
SPEAKER_00: Good God.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so that's in Denver.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: Land of Lucifer.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, yeah, but hopscotch in San Antonio is a little bit more chill.
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SPEAKER_02: You walk in,
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SPEAKER_02: there's like a big ball pit and you like jump into the ball pit and like,
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SPEAKER_02: it's a very made for selfies or like walking through,
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know,
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SPEAKER_02: kids like them.
35:26
SPEAKER_02: There's always like light installations.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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I assume they have a just a smaller,
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discreet satanic altar instead of an entire temple.
35:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't think they had anything.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: They did, though.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: There was this one exhibit that I actually really liked,
35:41
SPEAKER_02: but it's not super child friendly,
35:42
where they had telephones up on the wall and you would go into
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a booth almost like
35:48
SPEAKER_02: you were confessing and you would like say something and then.
35:53
SPEAKER_02: You could then like a day later,
35:55
it would be recycled and you go and you pick up these
35:58
telephones and you like hear
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SPEAKER_02: someone's like not confession,
36:03
SPEAKER_02: but story or something.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: That one was not child friendly, but the rest of it was OK.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: This place sounds horrible.
36:10
SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't want to go anywhere near it.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't think you're a modern or interactive art person.
36:16
SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'm not.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: No, my wife took the girls to the Natural History Museum.
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SPEAKER_00: And they had fun looking at the natural history stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: My daughter and I are art people.
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We go to...
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We always find,
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like,
36:34
art installations,
36:36
and we are into weird,
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like,
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art stuff.
36:38
When I go looking for art,
36:40
I'm going for looking for,
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like,
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you know,
36:42
Van Gogh.
36:43
You're going to,
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like,
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the natural portrait gallery,
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not...
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Art,
36:48
not weird pornography.
36:50
SPEAKER_00: Not...
36:53
SPEAKER_00: A crucifix suspended in urine sort of thing,
36:57
SPEAKER_00: which I'm sure apparently you'd be 100% cool with going to that.
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SPEAKER_00: That's up your alley.
37:03
I would be offended by it,
37:05
but then I'd be like,
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okay,
37:06
well,
37:06
this is someone's interpretation.
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SPEAKER_00: It made me think.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not into that.
37:12
SPEAKER_00: That isn't art.
37:14
SPEAKER_00: That's trash.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: All that sounds horrible.
37:18
SPEAKER_00: Art is difficult to make.
37:20
SPEAKER_00: It's like in a time.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: I remember years ago,
37:23
SPEAKER_00: I went to a modern art museum,
37:25
SPEAKER_00: and there was called...
37:27
SPEAKER_00: This has just stuck with me.
37:29
SPEAKER_00: It was called... What's it?
37:33
SPEAKER_00: Scratches on a Blackboard.
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SPEAKER_00: And it was literally just a blackboard with some...
37:39
Somebody put some chalk on it And it was hanging in this museum
37:42
Probably cost like
37:43
$500,000 For the museum to get a hold of This is the stupidest
37:47
thing I've ever seen
37:48
I hate modern art My wife made me go The banana that was duct
37:53
taped to the wall My
37:54
wife made me go to the Guggenheim with her once In New York You
38:00
don't even have
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SPEAKER_00: anything good to say about the Guggenheim It was at the Guggenheim That I
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SPEAKER_00: discovered the artist Kandinsky
38:09
And then I spent the entirety of the rest of it loudly
38:13
complaining about what a
38:15
terrible artist Kandinsky is and loudly talking about how all
38:19
of his art looked
38:20
SPEAKER_00: like it was made by a drunken five-year-old.
38:23
Because all of Kandinsky's art looks like it was made by a
38:27
five-year-old who is
38:29
SPEAKER_00: three sheets to the wind.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: Kandinsky sucks.
38:33
SPEAKER_02: Don't ever go to Bilbao.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what that is, but I'm not going to go there.
38:38
SPEAKER_02: Bilbao is a city in the Basque region in Spain.
38:43
SPEAKER_02: You like Basque cheesecakes.
38:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I do.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: I like the Basque region.
38:47
SPEAKER_02: They have an amazing Guggenheim in Bilbao.
38:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, modern art is terrible.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: And all of Bilbao is very proud of the Guggenheim that they have.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: Anything post-impressionism.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: And some impressionism gets a little bit out there.
39:04
SPEAKER_00: But anything post-impressionism is pretty much trash.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh, sir.
39:09
SPEAKER_00: Jackson Pollock was literally a CIA op.
39:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm not even joking.
39:14
Jackson Pollock,
39:15
his entire career was sponsored as a CIA op to money launder.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh, my God.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: I'm not making this up.
39:24
SPEAKER_00: Jackson, you can look this up.
39:26
Jackson Pollock was 100% got his entire career existed because
39:31
the CIA made it happen.
39:34
SPEAKER_00: Modern art sucks.
39:38
SPEAKER_00: I'm not being controversial.
39:39
This is a universally acknowledged truth outside of weirdo
39:42
Colorado circles where
39:44
SPEAKER_00: they go hang out in satanic temples.
39:46
SPEAKER_02: I'm dying laughing for you now.
39:51
SPEAKER_02: I don't even know what to say or how to respond.
39:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm just laughing.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: You want to talk about more culture.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: I really don't.
40:00
SPEAKER_02: You're just going to skewer me for anything.
40:04
corny why do you travel i don't know to go to weird stuff and
40:08
lee just makes too
40:09
weird too weird i like weird i will be that i'm sorry i'm
40:15
cursing a lot today
40:16
what's wrong with you because you so desperately want to vomit
40:19
hey look i failed
40:24
bulimia i always have to vomit but i can't make myself vomit
40:28
and it would be a lot
40:29
SPEAKER_02: easier in this situation
40:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what it is about talking to you that just brings it up.
40:37
My wife will listen to this and then likely complain because
40:41
I'll have reminded her
40:42
about me and my endlessly complaining about Kandinsky all
40:47
through the Guggenheim.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: I think there was a stained glass art piece I liked there.
40:55
SPEAKER_02: OK, this is a really big trend right now.
40:57
SPEAKER_02: Have you seen?
40:58
SPEAKER_02: Of course you haven't.
40:59
SPEAKER_02: I forgot who I was talking to for a minute there.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: Have you seen that they're doing stained glass workshops all over?
41:05
SPEAKER_02: It's like a really big trend.
41:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like stained glass.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:09
SPEAKER_00: Proper stained glass.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: Proper stained.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: It shows an actual picture.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: Like there are workshops now.
41:17
This is like the new paint by numbers is the new like you
41:20
solder around and you
41:22
SPEAKER_02: make your stained glass.
41:23
SPEAKER_02: And it's a really cute thing.
41:25
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: There is near me a place.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: There's a maker's workshop.
41:29
SPEAKER_02: There's near me a place.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
41:31
SPEAKER_00: They are offering glasses in blacksmithy.
41:35
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's really cool.
41:37
SPEAKER_00: My wife keeps asking if I want to go learn to be a blacksmith.
41:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, kind of, but also, you know, what am I going to use?
41:42
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to build a bellows in my house.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: What the hell are you not?
41:47
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
41:47
I'm like,
41:49
because I'm not going to become,
41:50
like,
41:50
you know,
41:52
actual start doing blacksmithery.
41:54
SPEAKER_02: Why not?
41:54
SPEAKER_02: That would be so cool.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: I guess.
41:57
SPEAKER_00: It's a hobby.
41:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
41:58
SPEAKER_02: It's something to do.
41:59
I know you're not ambitious,
42:01
so picking up another hobby is like a bridge.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm not at all.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: But probably.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: I just try to do it.
42:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
42:09
SPEAKER_02: When you go to Christmas markets...
42:12
SPEAKER_02: as one does in Europe,
42:14
a lot of them now have like a blacksmith tent and guys will be
42:19
dressed up.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: Like,
42:20
SPEAKER_02: especially when you're in medieval cities,
42:23
SPEAKER_02: guys will be dressed up and like doing their little...
42:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm acting it out.
42:27
SPEAKER_02: I have no idea what they do, but they're like, you know, pounding...
42:32
SPEAKER_02: The battle.
42:34
SPEAKER_02: I sound like such an idiot.
42:35
SPEAKER_02: Again, day that ends in Y. They're just out there.
42:40
SPEAKER_02: But it's really cool.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: You can go and watch them make things.
42:42
SPEAKER_02: And I had them make a cross for my son at one in Budapest.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
42:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's really cool.
42:49
SPEAKER_02: It could be a side thing.
42:51
SPEAKER_02: You could go around to like Renaissance fairs and just be pounding out.
42:56
SPEAKER_00: That's what I want to do.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: I want to go hang out with SCA types at Renaissance fairs.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: That sounds wonderful.
43:04
SPEAKER_02: Are you going to hate me for saying that?
43:05
SPEAKER_02: I could totally see you as being a Renaissance fair person.
43:09
SPEAKER_02: No.
43:11
SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'm not.
43:14
I've been to when I was very,
43:16
my mother was into,
43:17
was into Renaissance Fairs kind of things.
43:19
I've been to one or two when I was quite young,
43:21
but just,
43:22
you know,
43:22
the whole LARP.
43:24
I,
43:25
I recall making the point at the time that everyone,
43:27
everyone was a Lord and a lady.
43:28
SPEAKER_00: No one was the like, you know, downtrodden, filthy peasant.
43:31
SPEAKER_00: It was, you know, under the heel of the local noble.
43:41
SPEAKER_02: Leave it to you.
43:42
And I like me so dry and political and depressing as I'm
43:46
assuming a child.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: I've always been like,
43:49
I remember I was actually I was remembering earlier today
43:52
because I saw a thing.
43:54
SPEAKER_00: Referencing the movie Midnight Cowboy.
43:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you've ever seen Midnight Cowboy with Jon Voight.
43:59
SPEAKER_00: And so my mother, I was probably an early teen.
44:03
I was way too young to watch this movie because,
44:06
you know,
44:06
given what it's about.
44:07
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's an early one.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: So my mother had me watch this movie,
44:15
SPEAKER_00: which is if you haven't seen Midnight Cowboy,
44:17
it's what John Voight is a young Midwestern man who moves to
44:21
Manhattan and has
44:23
trouble finding work and ends up getting work as a male
44:25
prostitute with with with
44:28
SPEAKER_00: what's his face?
44:29
SPEAKER_00: Dustin Hoffman is his pimp.
44:32
And it's basically about how his life gets worse and worse,
44:35
and the fall descends into this.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: So when I watched this movie, I was 12 or 13 probably, and I finished it.
44:47
SPEAKER_00: My mother,
44:48
SPEAKER_00: who apparently had watched it when it was new,
44:50
and she considered it to be this very moving movie and very
44:54
deep about the
44:54
SPEAKER_00: struggles of people.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: She asked what I thought, and I said, I didn't like it.
45:04
SPEAKER_00: Surely there's a Burger King or something you get a job at.
45:07
SPEAKER_00: There must have been something else he could have done.
45:09
It seems like he made a choice to do this,
45:13
and he was probably a bad person to begin with.
45:19
SPEAKER_00: My mother,
45:20
SPEAKER_00: I overheard my mother talk to someone later,
45:22
SPEAKER_00: and she was like,
45:23
SPEAKER_00: that had never occurred to me.
45:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
45:29
SPEAKER_00: That's how I think.
45:31
SPEAKER_02: I did not have the same reaction to working girl and or pretty woman.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: Well, Pretty Woman makes more sense because she's a coke fiend.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: They cut out most of the coke fiend subplot.
45:44
But the thing with Pretty Woman is that originally the reason
45:48
that she was into
45:49
SPEAKER_00: hooking was because she had a major cocaine addiction.
45:53
SPEAKER_00: Oh, among us.
45:55
SPEAKER_02: Just kidding.
45:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm far too rotund to be addicted to coke.
46:00
Yeah.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, no, that's my feeling with all these things.
46:05
SPEAKER_00: There weren't other options to you.
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SPEAKER_00: Don't come whining to me.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: You made this choice.
46:10
This is the choice that you have decided on because you were
46:13
too good to go be a
46:15
SPEAKER_00: bagger at the grocery store or sell lumber at Home Depot.
46:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I know people who have
46:23
gone into stripping and other really it's a choice you make
46:28
professions and yeah
46:30
like oddly all the people i know that have gone into that line
46:34
of work just
46:36
generally are all from like fairly well off middle class
46:41
households like they
46:42
didn't need to be it wasn't a food on the table decision you
46:47
have to start off as
46:48
somewhat morally ambiguous to begin with to to begin that
46:52
particular descent i
46:53
SPEAKER_00: think
46:54
SPEAKER_00: Not to say there is no one,
46:57
but often it has more to do with trafficking and perhaps not
47:03
having initially had a
47:04
SPEAKER_00: choice,
47:05
SPEAKER_00: which is unfortunate.
47:06
SPEAKER_02: I like that we started this off by talking about your love for Delta,
47:09
SPEAKER_02: and now we're talking about trafficking.
47:12
SPEAKER_00: We are indeed.
47:14
SPEAKER_00: You never know where you're going to go.
47:15
SPEAKER_02: The natural progression of our conversations is just absolutely wild.
47:19
SPEAKER_00: This, though, this is wonderful because this is what a conversation does.
47:23
SPEAKER_00: A conversation roves.
47:24
SPEAKER_00: It probes into different areas.
47:27
SPEAKER_00: And that's a good thing.
47:28
SPEAKER_00: It's a natural conversation between us.
47:30
SPEAKER_00: That's what people like.
47:33
SPEAKER_00: All our eight people listen to us.
47:36
SPEAKER_02: Excuse me, we have like 25.
47:39
SPEAKER_00: 25 whole people.
47:40
SPEAKER_00: They like hearing our conversation naturally go where I'm at.
47:43
SPEAKER_02: I think two of them are us.
47:45
SPEAKER_00: It's probably true.
47:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't think you listen to them.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: One of them is my wife.
47:49
SPEAKER_00: I do.
47:52
One of them is my husband,
47:53
but he doesn't listen,
47:54
as I've said numerous times.
47:55
SPEAKER_02: But I love that your wife listens.
47:58
SPEAKER_00: She does.
47:59
SPEAKER_00: She listens to critiques.
48:00
I dream of the day that she sends me the notes directly that
48:03
that will be like,
48:05
SPEAKER_02: I'll know I've made it.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: I'll give her your number.
48:08
SPEAKER_00: She'll be happy to send you notes.
48:10
SPEAKER_02: I'll know I've made it when I get the notes directly from her.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: So you are flying to Phoenix, correct?
48:17
SPEAKER_02: I am.
48:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm flying to Phoenix early tomorrow.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: And then on Thursday,
48:21
I'm going to need all of the prayers in the world because I'm
48:24
doing forced water
48:25
SPEAKER_02: sports.
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SPEAKER_02: I know my kids found this thing.
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There's some lake near my parents' house and they have this
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like giant inflatable
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SPEAKER_02: obstacle course.
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SPEAKER_00: I've seen those around.
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yeah it actually looks really fun yeah also i'm ridiculously
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out of shape i have
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been working out so so much more lately and i do work out a lot
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so i'm like maybe i
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won't die but i am concerned that i will drown you know well
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you'll probably float
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SPEAKER_02: yes i will probably float
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SPEAKER_02: You have to wear life jackets and things.
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But I just see myself crawling up some giant inflatable thing
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and sucking wind and
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SPEAKER_02: being totally out of air and complaining about the whole thing.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's going to be 120 degrees.
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And even in the lake,
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I'm sure the lake is probably a million degrees because it's
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Phoenix.
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SPEAKER_02: And I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I just...
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I don't think my family understands that my version of outdoor
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time is like sitting
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SPEAKER_02: on a brunch,
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SPEAKER_02: having a mimosa.
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SPEAKER_00: I like hiking.
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SPEAKER_00: Like hiking in woods is nice.
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SPEAKER_02: I like to be outside like.
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SPEAKER_02: In comfort.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: In what?
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SPEAKER_00: That's fair.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I mean, I love hiking, too.
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SPEAKER_00: I hike every single day.
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SPEAKER_00: I've told you before.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't like water.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't like being in water.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't like being around water, especially.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love water.
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't learn to swim until I was relatively old.
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SPEAKER_00: I was always scared of swimming.
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SPEAKER_00: If I get into water where my feet can't touch the ground,
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SPEAKER_00: I have basically a full-on panic attack.
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SPEAKER_00: I do not like being in water.
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SPEAKER_02: What are you going to do when you go to Montenegro?
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SPEAKER_00: Not get in the water.
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SPEAKER_00: I like being on boats.
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SPEAKER_00: I like being on boats a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: Can you be like in a deep pool?
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SPEAKER_00: Not if my feet can't touch the ground.
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seriously like if it's contained like clear no i i do not like
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i i just immediately
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have a really viscer i i'm consciously aware that i will be
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fine but i just have a
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visceral reaction i just didn't do not like being in water or
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where i my feet can't
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touch the ground even if you have a life jacket on doesn't
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matter does not matter
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SPEAKER_02: oh my gosh
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SPEAKER_02: I have things with dark water,
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but some of that is because this is going to be the most
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redneck sounding thing
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SPEAKER_02: you've ever heard.
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SPEAKER_02: My grandma had a catfish farm when I was growing up.
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SPEAKER_00: That was pretty redneck.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it was so redneck.
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We used to sit in the back of the truck and feed the catfish,
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pure in a catfish trail.
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And we would like feed them and you'd throw the hook in to like
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hook them on their feet.
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like get up yeah anyways i i can be redneck when i want to be
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um but i am afraid of
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certain lakes just because the one she had like a big lake that
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didn't have catfish
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in it but it was near all the ponds and it had perch and those
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damn things would
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come up and bite you they would like bite your butt and they'd
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nibble your toes no
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SPEAKER_00: thanks no thank you
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SPEAKER_02: Plus,
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SPEAKER_02: like,
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SPEAKER_02: if you've ever fallen in a catfish pond,
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SPEAKER_02: I can tell you it is the most horrifying thing you'll ever face.
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SPEAKER_00: Do they come and get rah-rah-rah on you?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, they're just, like, all around.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, and the barbs.
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SPEAKER_02: And no, I just.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's unpleasant.
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SPEAKER_00: I wouldn't want that.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it was horrible.
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SPEAKER_00: No, thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: It was horrible.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I'm good.
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My brother fell in once when it was like really thin ice and he
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thought it was
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SPEAKER_02: thicker and he fell into the pond.
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SPEAKER_02: It was fine.
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We got him out,
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but he was like,
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you would have thought they were eating him alive.
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SPEAKER_02: He was just like, it's touching me.
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SPEAKER_00: I would have been like that.
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SPEAKER_00: Without the catfish, I would have been really unhappy.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, it wasn't.
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SPEAKER_02: No, you could have stood there.
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SPEAKER_02: So you would have been fine with that.
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SPEAKER_02: But like, oh, catfish are just...
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: They're okay to eat.
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SPEAKER_00: They're not great.
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SPEAKER_00: They're fine.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, no.
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SPEAKER_02: I won't eat catfish because of this whole experience.
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SPEAKER_02: But I have gone noodling.
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SPEAKER_00: What do you mean by noodling?
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SPEAKER_02: This is so, so beyond redneck.
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It's where you stick your hand in a hole in the lake to get the
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catfish to swallow
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SPEAKER_02: part of your hand.
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SPEAKER_02: Like it swallows up to your wrist and then you pull it out.
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SPEAKER_00: To eat it?
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, we would just throw it back in because I hate catfish, but.
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SPEAKER_00: Why?
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SPEAKER_00: That's horrible.
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SPEAKER_02: It's something to do.
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SPEAKER_00: It's an aquatic version of cow tipping, basically.
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just barbless fishing.
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SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
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SPEAKER_00: Especially if you're just throwing them back.
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It's just something you do when you're out in the backcountry
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to pass the time.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I would...
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catch them and eat them except i can't eat catfish because they
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just you don't like
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it no they've traumatized me too thoroughly fair enough the
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smell and the taste of
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cat i just can't like yeah i love all types of fish i cannot
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and will not ever eat
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again that's fair even if it's fried like i just can't do it um
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that really threw
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you there i don't know stories like that that's i've also been
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frogging have you
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SPEAKER_02: ever been frogging
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SPEAKER_00: I frog people constantly.
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SPEAKER_02: I forgot I was talking to you.
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SPEAKER_02: I almost said it.
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SPEAKER_02: I caught myself there.
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SPEAKER_00: What is frogging?
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It's where you go to a pond at night and you can hear the
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bullfrogs and you take a
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SPEAKER_02: really,
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SPEAKER_02: really,
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really high powered flashlight and you throw it like kind of in
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their face and it
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SPEAKER_02: stuns them and you can grab them real quick.
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SPEAKER_00: So you shine it right in their face, not throw the flashlight at them.
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SPEAKER_00: You just throw it.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: I was picturing you honking a flashlight at a frog.
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SPEAKER_02: No, like you throw the light on.
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SPEAKER_00: I imagine it would be stunned in that case.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you got hit by a flashlight.
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SPEAKER_02: No, but like the light, the light stuns them.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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And then you've got to really quickly grab them while they're
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still stunned.
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SPEAKER_00: And then do what?
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SPEAKER_00: Just put them back?
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SPEAKER_02: Or eat them.
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SPEAKER_00: You can eat their legs, it's true.
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SPEAKER_00: Not bad.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't hate it.
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SPEAKER_00: You didn't have cable, did you?
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SPEAKER_00: At the farm.
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SPEAKER_02: Cable all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: Why were you doing all these things instead of watching cable television?
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SPEAKER_02: Because I lived in the Midwest for a while.
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SPEAKER_00: You could just watch cable.
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SPEAKER_00: Every time I'd ask my mother about,
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you'd see something about the weird things people used to do to
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pass the time.
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SPEAKER_00: I'd ask her why they did that.
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SPEAKER_00: Her response was always because they didn't have cable television yet.
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did have cable we just made our own fun too i've also known how
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tipping and that
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sucks when i was young there was a thing where it was talking
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about how many kids
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people used to have and i was i was probably like seven or
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eight and i asked my
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mother how come people used to have more kids than they do now
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and she said because
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they didn't have cable i mean i didn't i i filed that one away
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and resurfaced it
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SPEAKER_00: years later because at the time i didn't understand that response
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SPEAKER_00: She wasn't wrong.
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SPEAKER_02: Honestly, it's shocking.
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SPEAKER_02: In that case, I don't have more children.
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SPEAKER_02: I get bored a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: That was TMI.
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SPEAKER_02: Gonna have to cut that one out.
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SPEAKER_00: Nah, you can leave it.
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SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
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You luckily did not join this software's like call thing
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earlier because I was
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SPEAKER_02: hitting on my husband.
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SPEAKER_00: You can't call on your husband.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I do.
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SPEAKER_02: And I do it like in the most obnoxious, like over the top, like vile way.
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SPEAKER_02: And he'll just look at me and be like, none of that is appealing.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I am glad I wasn't here for that.
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SPEAKER_02: No,
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SPEAKER_02: but it's just nothing gives me more pleasure than annoying my husband,
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SPEAKER_02: but like cute,
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SPEAKER_02: annoying.
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SPEAKER_00: That's good.
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SPEAKER_00: That's cute.
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SPEAKER_00: That's your thing.
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SPEAKER_02: It's our thing.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: One of your things.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Being obnoxious and watching people's reactions.
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SPEAKER_00: You're very good at being obnoxious.
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SPEAKER_00: I've noticed that about you.
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SPEAKER_02: Exclusively, Mylene.
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SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
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SPEAKER_02: Thanks for noticing.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we've probably got enough.
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SPEAKER_00: We've got to save some for next time.
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SPEAKER_02: I think I've totally lost it.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you definitely have.
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My wife and children are going away camping this weekend,
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so I have this weekend with myself.
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SPEAKER_00: I might travel this weekend.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, they're gone.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: I haven't decided.
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SPEAKER_02: You should come to Colorado.
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SPEAKER_00: Just last minute, buy a ticket, fly out to Colorado.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I do stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_00: That's a cheap proposition right there.
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SPEAKER_02: I do stuff like that all the time.
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I feel like you used to be able to get discounts on last minute
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tickets and you
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SPEAKER_00: really can't anymore.
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SPEAKER_00: Can you?
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SPEAKER_00: You still can.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I'm booking.
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SPEAKER_02: I need to book my tickets for Ireland soon.
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SPEAKER_02: But actually, airline prices, hot tip right now, are pretty.
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SPEAKER_02: Dropping across the board.
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SPEAKER_00: They weren't bad going down to San Antonio.
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SPEAKER_00: They're like $315 round trip per person, which honestly isn't that bad.
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SPEAKER_02: Sounds really bad.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: It didn't seem that bad to me.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm flying.
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SPEAKER_02: I think I spent $280 for first class down to Phoenix.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, wow.
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SPEAKER_00: That's like a half an hour flight.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it's like two hours.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like an hour 40.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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I mean,
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I think you're actually in the air an hour,
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but still,
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you weren't on a long flight.
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SPEAKER_00: It was the lowest flight I could find.
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SPEAKER_00: I was expecting it to be like $600 a ticket.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, some of that is just like airport and route.
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SPEAKER_02: But anyways, the ticket prices are down across.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, oil prices are down, so that makes sense.
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SPEAKER_02: Um,
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also there's just a lot of unrest and people have not been
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booking as many
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SPEAKER_02: vacations and airlines are getting hit.
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SPEAKER_02: Although everyone is in Europe and I want to talk about that next time.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's look up some of the, um,
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ways that americans are the best and the worst in europe right
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i have some good
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stories everyone everyone can look forward to that we're gonna
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we're gonna stick to
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that that will be americans as tourists will be our next our
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next uh and then we
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can perhaps do europeans as tourists i have so many amazing
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stories for that we're
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SPEAKER_02: definitely doing that too all right well i think this was pretty good
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SPEAKER_00: I think we're okay.
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SPEAKER_00: I think we did a good job.
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Maybe.