Latest / Patriots Unfiltered / Patriots Unfiltered 6/10: Minicamp Day 2 Wrap-Up Show, Anfernee Jennings In-Studio, Training Camp Dates

Transcript

Patriots Unfiltered 6/10: Minicamp Day 2 Wrap-Up Show, Anfernee Jennings In-Studio, Training Camp Dates · Patriots Unfiltered

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised.
• 0:08
  Speaker 2: The World's original podcasts.
• 0:15
  Speaker 3: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website.
• 0:19
  Speaker 4: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com.
• 0:22
  Speaker 5: Are all right, we are live again practice wrap up.
• 0:29
  Speaker 5: It's Paul, it's me, It's gonna be Deuce and Evan.
• 0:32
  Speaker 5: We might be joined by a special guest. We'll see.
• 0:36
  Speaker 5: But it is day two of the mini camp and
• 0:38
  Speaker 5: it's gonna be the final day of practice, so we're
• 0:41
  Speaker 5: gonna be here for the next hour or so wrapping
• 0:44
  Speaker 5: up everything that we saw. I didn't I was busy,
• 0:47
  Speaker 5: but Paul was there and Evan and Duce, so they'll
• 0:50
  Speaker 5: have everything to say.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: Now they move practice indoors.
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: Doors, so it was a little bit tougher to sort
• 0:56
  Speaker 3: of decipher everything that's going on. I thought ev was
• 0:58
  Speaker 3: in a better spot than Mike and I were, but
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: I would say, and again, I wasn't there yesterday. You guys,
• 1:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sure had your rocket shots about that. From what
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: I read and determined from yesterday, it was a pretty
• 1:12
  Speaker 3: positive practice for the offense. Drake May in particular, I
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: would say this wasn't quite as good as that. I
• 1:19
  Speaker 3: thought the defense made more plays today than it sounded
• 1:22
  Speaker 3: like they made yesterday. All that said, it was telling
• 1:25
  Speaker 3: Fred as we were getting ready to start, I just
• 1:27
  Speaker 3: find watching Drake May this like more of a comfort
• 1:31
  Speaker 3: level that I didn't really see a lot at this
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: time last year, which makes sense. Last year he was
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: sort of deferring to Jacoby Brissette. This year he's the man.
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: I just I feel like they're in and out of
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: the huddle, quicker crisper. There's not a lot of you know, no,
• 1:48
  Speaker 3: you're supposed to be over here, You're supposed to go
• 1:50
  Speaker 3: over there. Okay, now you go in motion. The players
• 1:54
  Speaker 3: are getting run with an efficient pace. Again, I thought
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: the defense sort of controlled things a little bit today.
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: But to me, the bigger picture item here is the
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: offense looks to be a little bit more cohesive.
• 2:06
  Speaker 4: Than it certainly did at this time last year.
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you could make fun of that and say
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: that's a low bar, you know, be that as it may.
• 2:12
  Speaker 4: I think they're they're getting there, getting up to speed.
• 2:16
  Speaker 5: H So we'll we'll break all that down with Evan
• 2:19
  Speaker 5: and Deuce as well, after practice it was player availability
• 2:23
  Speaker 5: and Stefan Diggs had his first player availability, uh you know,
• 2:28
  Speaker 5: in that type of setting, and so we'll break down
• 2:31
  Speaker 5: everything that he had to say when the guys get
• 2:32
  Speaker 5: back as well.
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they had a good mix of some
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: veterans and Rooked I know, I think Hunter Henry spoke
• 2:39
  Speaker 3: for a little bit. Diggs was scheduled to speak, and
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: then they had some rookies. I think Mike was talking
• 2:44
  Speaker 3: to Trevion Henderson as I left to get over and
• 2:47
  Speaker 3: help you out, Freddy. So some of you know, I'm
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: not sure if Will Campbell's going to talk to you, Okay,
• 2:54
  Speaker 3: So yeah, be curious to see what the guys say,
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: you know, went on with some of that media availability.
• 3:00
  Speaker 5: Oh and guess who's walking into the room. It's Jenny
• 3:05
  Speaker 5: all right, good to see you.
• 3:10
  Speaker 4: Have a seed.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: Have a seed? All right?
• 3:12
  Speaker 5: Well to what do we owe this? You know, you
• 3:15
  Speaker 5: just decided to come in. Nobody asked you.
• 3:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no request, mate.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: You saw the on air outside, said I'm coming in.
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: What's going on in there? It looks fun?
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well thanks for coming.
• 3:25
  Speaker 5: So Paul you probably know, Paul, I'm Fred appreciate you coming.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: By How was practice today?
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 3:33
  Speaker 6: No, gun after you know, the last day this spring,
• 3:37
  Speaker 6: you know, uh, next time we come out, we're gonna
• 3:39
  Speaker 6: be in training camp and you know, get ready for
• 3:42
  Speaker 6: the season.
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So like, how does that feel to you?
• 3:44
  Speaker 5: Because I know tomorrow you're probably still gonna be here,
• 3:46
  Speaker 5: but you're not going to be out in the field.
• 3:49
  Speaker 5: And then you're off right until training camp until you
• 3:52
  Speaker 5: have to report the training camp.
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: Like, how do you know, keep that focus during that
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: time off and get ready for camp?
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: Happened? You know?
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: Coach Rable was saying today and his.
• 4:02
  Speaker 5: Press conference, like, you know, ten days before camp starts,
• 4:05
  Speaker 5: you start to get a little cranky because you start thinking,
• 4:07
  Speaker 5: all right, I gotta I gotta get my mind right,
• 4:10
  Speaker 5: Like you've been through this before this break?
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: How do you deal with it? Yeah?
• 4:14
  Speaker 6: I mean for me at this point going into your
• 4:16
  Speaker 6: six you know, you kind of use O t A's
• 4:19
  Speaker 6: mini camp to you know, just see where you're at,
• 4:21
  Speaker 6: how you feel, you know, if you put on weight
• 4:24
  Speaker 6: or mostly like you know, where do you think you
• 4:26
  Speaker 6: need to be there by the season. You know you're
• 4:29
  Speaker 6: trying to you're trying to fine tune those things over
• 4:31
  Speaker 6: the break, you know, so you can come back training
• 4:33
  Speaker 6: camp full speed.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: And so where are you? How do you feel about you?
• 4:37
  Speaker 6: I feel great, you know, uh, you know, a bit
• 4:41
  Speaker 6: different you know system over the defense that we have,
• 4:44
  Speaker 6: uh then we that we have had since I've been
• 4:47
  Speaker 6: here in the past.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I'm looking forward to it.
• 4:50
  Speaker 6: You know, we had a lot of chemistry this this
• 4:52
  Speaker 6: off season, you know, with the coaches and the playoffs.
• 4:55
  Speaker 6: You know, just looking forward to it.
• 4:57
  Speaker 3: Man, you're talking about the differences defensively and the system.
• 5:00
  Speaker 4: Can you sort of explain something?
• 5:01
  Speaker 3: It is as simple as you guys are a little
• 5:04
  Speaker 3: bit more aggressive in getting upfield.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get in the back.
• 5:07
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just you know, we got new coaching
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: stuff obviously.
• 5:11
  Speaker 6: Uh you know, you know they believe in you know
• 5:14
  Speaker 6: what they believe in, and you know it's different than
• 5:16
  Speaker 6: the past coaching stuff that we have. But you know
• 5:19
  Speaker 6: that the you know, the main thing, the main thing,
• 5:22
  Speaker 6: you know, playing together and playing fast and you know
• 5:24
  Speaker 6: that's that's all that we really want to do.
• 5:27
  Speaker 5: So with the new DC Tourell Williams, he hasn't been
• 5:29
  Speaker 5: here because he had his health scare that he talked about,
• 5:32
  Speaker 5: but has he been in touch with guys, like, you know,
• 5:34
  Speaker 5: is there any communication between him and the players or
• 5:38
  Speaker 5: the position coaches.
• 5:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. You know, he's still eat locked in every day.
• 5:43
  Speaker 6: Uh you know, he kind of reviews the film, give
• 5:46
  Speaker 6: us feedback and you know, just like.
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: He would if he would if he was here.
• 5:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, so, Yeah, I'm eager to get him
• 5:52
  Speaker 5: out here because I hear he is a really good
• 5:54
  Speaker 5: position coach too. Like, I'm sure he's going to be
• 5:57
  Speaker 5: doing more than just d C. He's going to be
• 5:59
  Speaker 5: in the trenches.
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: With you guys. Yeah, no doubt.
• 6:02
  Speaker 6: I mean that's that's how all the coaching staff, you know,
• 6:04
  Speaker 6: they they kind of made it a point of emphasis,
• 6:07
  Speaker 6: you know, coming in here that that they want to
• 6:08
  Speaker 6: be you know, not not just you know, telling us
• 6:11
  Speaker 6: what to do, but they want to you know, walk
• 6:12
  Speaker 6: with us.
• 6:13
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: You know, so I think that's used and you know,
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: that's that's been good to screen.
• 6:17
  Speaker 3: So we talk a lot about when the system changes
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: on the offense and how difficult that get gets a
• 6:22
  Speaker 3: lot of attention. You know, Drake may having to learn
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: another offensive system with Josh mcdenniel's coming in.
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: I'm curious to.
• 6:28
  Speaker 3: What it's like for a defensive player you've been you mentioned,
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: you know, different from the local coaches. I know you've
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: done some two gapping and you know it's a different
• 6:36
  Speaker 3: mentality up front. And you even had that in college
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: with with Nick. So how much of a transition is
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: it for you?
• 6:43
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I feel like I'm
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: a ball player, you know.
• 6:45
  Speaker 6: So you know I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna adjust
• 6:49
  Speaker 6: and I'm gonna, you know, learn the schemes.
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 6:51
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm gonna just pick it up. You know,
• 6:54
  Speaker 6: some days better than others. You know, it's all a
• 6:56
  Speaker 6: learning process. But you know, at the end of the day,
• 6:58
  Speaker 6: you know that's that's what that is. That's it's something new.
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 7:02
  Speaker 1: We all learning it together, and you know, we moving
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: forward every day.
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 7:06
  Speaker 5: Coach Rabel came in just from day one. He says,
• 7:08
  Speaker 5: you know, we're building a culture here.
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: Do you sense that? Do you sense that?
• 7:12
  Speaker 5: You know he's putting his thumbprint on this team and
• 7:14
  Speaker 5: you're starting to build a culture together with your teammates.
• 7:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, one thousand percent. You know, it's it's day, day
• 7:21
  Speaker 6: by day. Uh, you know, And like I said, man,
• 7:24
  Speaker 6: we had a good spring. We've grown a lot as
• 7:27
  Speaker 6: a team. Uh, you know, learning a lot about each
• 7:29
  Speaker 6: other personally.
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 7:31
  Speaker 6: You know, it's just looking forward to it, man, looking
• 7:33
  Speaker 6: for training camp and you know, preseason into the season, man,
• 7:37
  Speaker 6: and you know, see what things are.
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: So Fred and I have works here for a long time,
• 7:41
  Speaker 3: both of us for over twenty years. But we we
• 7:44
  Speaker 3: kind of agree that we've we've sent a different sort
• 7:46
  Speaker 3: of energy in the building since Mike came in. And
• 7:50
  Speaker 3: I'm just wondering if the players feel like that too.
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: I Mean, it's not anything that Gerard Mayo didn't bring,
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: because we sent some you know, newness and excitement last
• 7:58
  Speaker 3: year as well. But we just feel like there's a
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: different energy in the building.
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: And do the players feel that? Uh? I mean, like
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: I said, man, we we we've we've.
• 8:07
  Speaker 6: Had to you know, learn a new scheme, new system, uh,
• 8:10
  Speaker 6: learn new players.
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 8:12
  Speaker 6: And you know, just you know, we've grown over the spreen.
• 8:15
  Speaker 6: Like I said, Uh, you know, we're all excited. Man,
• 8:18
  Speaker 6: we're looking forward to it. We know that the standing
• 8:21
  Speaker 6: around here and you know that's what we're looking forward
• 8:23
  Speaker 6: to get back to.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: Uh. So we're excited about that.
• 8:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, everyone's held about the defense. You've got some
• 8:30
  Speaker 5: some really good players I think on the team and
• 8:34
  Speaker 5: maybe no better than the two corners that you guys have.
• 8:37
  Speaker 5: So as the front seven guy, when you think about, hey,
• 8:40
  Speaker 5: we got Gunzo on one side, we are Carlton on
• 8:43
  Speaker 5: the other side. They're gonna lock down, how does that
• 8:46
  Speaker 5: make you feel?
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 8:46
  Speaker 5: Does that get you excited about the freedom that it's
• 8:49
  Speaker 5: gonna you know, the complimentary football, but it's gonna give
• 8:52
  Speaker 5: the front seven.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Uh.
• 8:54
  Speaker 6: You know, just like you said, playing compromentary football, sometimes
• 8:57
  Speaker 6: the rush have to help out the coverage and sometimes
• 8:59
  Speaker 6: the cover have to help out, you know, the rush man.
• 9:02
  Speaker 6: You know, having guys like that back then, man, and
• 9:05
  Speaker 6: you know seeing them compete at a high level. I
• 9:07
  Speaker 6: mean you look at our dB room like all of
• 9:10
  Speaker 6: those guys you know, competitive and you know can play
• 9:12
  Speaker 6: and could be no more guys anyway, Like, so you know,
• 9:15
  Speaker 6: looking forward to that man, and you know, just having fun, man,
• 9:18
  Speaker 6: playing together, playing fast and having fun.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: That's what we're trying to get back to it.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: I know you're a much different kind of player, and
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: you know your game is about power in the front
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: seven guys, but you ever watch a guy like Gonzo
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: and just say, man, yeah, guys, it's not fair that
• 9:30
  Speaker 3: he's that. I mean that interception you had down the sideline,
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: it was just.
• 9:34
  Speaker 6: Like yeah, I mean like I was looking at that too,
• 9:38
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, man, you know, but you know, that's
• 9:41
  Speaker 6: the type of stuff he's been doing off spring. You know,
• 9:43
  Speaker 6: Cards and you know, funny funny about cardson Me and
• 9:45
  Speaker 6: him played in the All Star Game in high school,
• 9:49
  Speaker 6: coming out of high school together, you know, in a
• 9:52
  Speaker 6: simplified deals in California game and you know, him going
• 9:55
  Speaker 6: on to go go and play for Auburn US being
• 9:58
  Speaker 6: robb Ree, you know what I'm saying. So I kind
• 10:00
  Speaker 6: of had a relationship with him, and then you know
• 10:02
  Speaker 6: him now being here, you know, looking forward to it. Man,
• 10:04
  Speaker 6: you know, I know how what type of competitor is.
• 10:06
  Speaker 6: I know what type of competitive guns are with.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: Oh oh god man, the guys ready to go.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. So I know you've got other things to do.
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: But before you go, breaks coming anything, playing any trips,
• 10:19
  Speaker 5: anything's fun that you're gonna do just to kind of
• 10:21
  Speaker 5: get away from football for a little bit.
• 10:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I'm hanging around with family, spend a
• 10:26
  Speaker 6: lot of time with him, or they just moved a temple, so, uh,
• 10:29
  Speaker 6: you know, just hanging out Tampa. Yeah, and uh, you
• 10:32
  Speaker 6: know training and during that time with the film and
• 10:36
  Speaker 6: you know, getting ready to lock you in here and
• 10:37
  Speaker 6: you know, just go do what we gotta do.
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: Okay, times goes by fast, you'll be back here.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So relative all right, Anfrety, thank you so much
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: for coming by.
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: Appreciate thanks for stopping.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, Anthrethy Jennings on Patriots Unfiltered.
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: That was nice.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I find it interesting just you know, sort
• 10:57
  Speaker 3: of the changes defensively and we we keep talking about
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: our man abstracts. You know, it's like, well it's going
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: to be more of an aggressive, penetrating defense. But it
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: kind of struck me in the middle of talking to
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: him that it's really not any different than what we
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: talk about with Drake May. Right, you know, you're asking
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: Drake May to learn different things. Well, he's you know,
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: Jennings has done things a certain way for five years
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: and really for him, going back to his college career
• 11:22
  Speaker 3: was with Nick Saban a very similar kind of mindset.
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: Now you're asked to do it in a whole different way,
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: and it's going to take some time, I think, to adjustin.
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: You know, we'll see how it all unfolds with these guys.
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of new you guys. You
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: also mentioned all the newness on defense, so there's a
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: lot of moving the.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: Lazar joining us. Now, wow, what Evan has turned.
• 11:47
  Speaker 8: Has turned practice?
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 11:53
  Speaker 7: Evan, what did you see a little bit of a
• 11:55
  Speaker 7: bounce back day from the defense today? That we had
• 11:58
  Speaker 7: Jalen Hawkins in here yesterday and he tipped the cap
• 12:01
  Speaker 7: to the offense on Monday and said they were doing
• 12:04
  Speaker 7: their thing today. But I felt like today a little
• 12:06
  Speaker 7: bit of a bounce back. You guys are talking to
• 12:08
  Speaker 7: Anthony about the Christian Gonzalez his interception and the red zone.
• 12:12
  Speaker 7: They tightened it up a little bit, I thought today
• 12:15
  Speaker 7: compared to yesterday. So that's good. You want that back
• 12:17
  Speaker 7: and forth. You don't want one side of the ball
• 12:19
  Speaker 7: to dominate play, you know, for multiple practice brow. So
• 12:23
  Speaker 7: a little bit of a nice bounce back today for
• 12:27
  Speaker 7: the defense.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 12:27
  Speaker 5: I was out there for a little bit in the
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: beginning of clustrophobic being inside. It's just too many people
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: for you know, especially this time of year. When it's
• 12:35
  Speaker 5: ninety guys, just just too much for just that field house.
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree.
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: And you know, I'm sure that Mike had his reasons
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: for switching.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: You.
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: I don't understand him, no, but I'm sure he has
• 12:47
  Speaker 4: his reasons.
• 12:47
  Speaker 5: And no, I know, but like if it was a
• 12:49
  Speaker 5: downpour and it really impeded you from teaching and learning,
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: I could get. But it was just a miss, you know,
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: unless they were just a no no, unless they were
• 12:58
  Speaker 5: not happy, unless the forecast really did call for downpours,
• 13:01
  Speaker 5: and that's why they just didn't want to have to
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: switch mid stream.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: But on the on the positive side, Friday, there was
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: a food truck available. Yeah, outside of practice, which the
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: media was allowed to partake in.
• 13:12
  Speaker 7: Nice eventually, Yeah, because they enjoyed it.
• 13:15
  Speaker 5: Marketing had a bunch of rookie season ticket members out there.
• 13:18
  Speaker 5: Is that the gaslines were full of people watching practice, and.
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: So one of them could have been might do so,
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: that's true, that's right, rookie season.
• 13:27
  Speaker 7: That was one of the more bizarre practices I've ever
• 13:30
  Speaker 7: been to. Because of that, they had the rookie season
• 13:32
  Speaker 7: ticket holders apparently with the marketing guests and then all
• 13:35
  Speaker 7: the media all trying to stand on the sideline but
• 13:38
  Speaker 7: not beyond the sideline because you want to be too
• 13:40
  Speaker 7: close to the field. And it was a little bit.
• 13:43
  Speaker 7: It was tough. It was there's a lot of people
• 13:45
  Speaker 7: inside that place today and even the organization, I think
• 13:49
  Speaker 7: they had to the team had to go off script
• 13:53
  Speaker 7: a little bit to fit everything in because of the space.
• 13:56
  Speaker 7: So that made it a little bit different.
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: Yep, we should probably talk about Stefan Diggs. Were you
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: at his scrum for a little bit, Yeah, And what
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: was that all about? And you know, tell me what
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: he had to say.
• 14:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, nothing, nothing to headline graby from Stefan Diggs, But
• 14:15
  Speaker 7: I think the overall message was, you know that he
• 14:17
  Speaker 7: feels good and that he feels like he's progressing the
• 14:21
  Speaker 7: way that he would want to be. And he, you know,
• 14:24
  Speaker 7: was asked a little bit about Drake May and Mike
• 14:26
  Speaker 7: Rabel and playing for him, and you know, he said that,
• 14:29
  Speaker 7: you know, Rabel, there's definitely some carryover from being a
• 14:33
  Speaker 7: player that he can feel that. But you know, there's
• 14:36
  Speaker 7: also an authoritarian aspect of being the head coach as
• 14:39
  Speaker 7: well that comes into play too. But I think with
• 14:44
  Speaker 7: Drake May, you know, he was honest, and he just said,
• 14:46
  Speaker 7: you know, he looks great, but I'm not out there
• 14:48
  Speaker 7: with him yet, so I don't really know, you know,
• 14:51
  Speaker 7: quite yet about playing with him, because I haven't been
• 14:54
  Speaker 7: able to play with him yet. But I think overall,
• 14:56
  Speaker 7: the optimistic tone about his health and his knee in
• 15:00
  Speaker 7: the conditioning that he's in and all that good stuff,
• 15:03
  Speaker 7: it seems like it's moving in the right You.
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: Say, nothing really headliney was was he at liberty to
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: even guess at his own timetable or no?
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: I mean, I'm sure he if he wanted to, he could,
• 15:15
  Speaker 7: but I didn't hear him talking about timelines or anything
• 15:19
  Speaker 7: like that right.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Now, I think, And no one asked him.
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: I wasn't there for the entire thing, so I had
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: full disclosure. I don't know if Dus and I were
• 15:28
  Speaker 7: off with the rookies for a little bit of it.
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: It was a pretty big media scrum around Diggs. As
• 15:33
  Speaker 7: you can imagine. He wasn't at a podium, so it
• 15:35
  Speaker 7: was not exactly an easy seat to get in front
• 15:39
  Speaker 7: there and everything. So but yeah, and the a couple
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: of minutes I listened to him was pretty normal.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: It's very charming.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: I found him he just he knows he's one of
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: those guys who can turn it on whenever he wants
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: and be fun and affable.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: And I think he was. I caught a brief bit too.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: I ended up kind of having a one on one
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: with Travon.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Henderson because none of that one phoning it out to
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: the social media team.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: I said, look, my boys all grows up being a journalists.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Oh you know.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a capital Jake journalist thing going on
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: over there. Pr came walking over with him and everyone's
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: it digs and it's like, you know, the poor kid.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: So he's a really nice kid, trad and Henderson really enjoyed.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: I hadn't talked to him yet, you know, just small stuff.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Ask somebout was past blocking and you know what it's
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: been like in the room. But he's been an impressive
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: player through these OTA practices. Every time he touches the ball.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: I felt like today you were closer, you get a
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: little bit better sense of his speed, and man he
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: is he's just like I said, yesterd he floats. That
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: stood out to me as well. And that was the
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: one thing you and I agree with you, Fred about
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: the claustrophobic nature. Of being indoors with all those people.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: But the one thing that you do sort of get
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: a look at standing so close on the side at
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: field level is just how big they are and how
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: fast they are.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: You know't want to get in their way.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: He was one of the guys like he caught a
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: little swing in front of Mike and I a little
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: swing pass, turned it up field and you know, put
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: it in full throttle for a second. Was like, yeah,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: you know, like you can just you get a real
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: sense of just how athletic they are.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, and remember back in the old Foxboro Stadium
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: at the end of games, you know, we would have
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: to be standing up literally on the sideline for the
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: last five minutes of the game. And like Paul said,
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: when you're down there, I feel level that close you
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: realize the collisions that they have, like these are these
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: are car wrecks, big dude, these are these are high
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: speed collisions. And it's it's no wonder that the injuries
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: happened and that these careers the average career is like
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: three years. Yeah, you know, because the size of these guys,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: the speed of these guys combined with the collision, it's
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: it's incredible to see up close.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no question the size of the guys, and
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: that was a little different being inside today. But I
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: don't know if you got I'm sure you guys already
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: wax poetic about what you saw.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: It just felt like, well they did.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: I just I thought the defense, you know, bounced back,
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: and not that I hate saying bounce back, but just
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: defense had a little more success today and there's just
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: a lot of good energy. I think that was my
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: biggest takeaway was just I don't know if I remember
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: it feeling this like guys really into it and you know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: yelling for deflected passes, and you know, you could feel
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: the competitiveness off the field, especially on defense. Another thing
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I noticed with them was just we talked a little
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: bit about the offense looking a little smoother in the
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: operation yesterday and I think a little bit today as well.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: But defensive communication, I think.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: Last year noticing some of the we're still trying to
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: get calls when the snap goes, and it seems like
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: these guys this year very much got their communication down.
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: They're getting everybody's on the same page, you see, you know,
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: you get that feeling where everybody talks, they do the
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: thing and then boom, they're all locked in right before
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: the snap. Thought that was a positive sign for Evan.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: One of the things I said to Fred that I,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: you know, I basically I wasn't there, so I didn't
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: see it yesterday. But based on what I read and
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: then what I saw again today, I just feel like
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: even when the plays aren't successful, there's a crispness, like
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: they're not in the huddle for a long time. There's
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: not a lot of reorganization at the line. You know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: guys go in motion when they're supposed to. And I
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: don't know if you guys have noticed the same thing.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say that, well, look at how
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: much better it is now, because I don't know, we
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: haven't seen the results yet. But operational last year it
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: was false start, false start, someone not lined up in
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: the proper slot, he's on the wrong side, or it
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: didn't go in motion was when he was supposed to.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I don't see a lot of that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, And I think that's been a purpose
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: efficiency to the way the plays get run.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: I think I think that's Rabel and I think it's
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: the it's McDaniels just prepping these guys off the field
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: so that when they get on the field they're ready
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: to go.
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you can see the build up in the way
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: that the practices are scripted. So I'm sure they go
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: in the classroom and they teach these plays on the
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: board and you know, on video, and then they go
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: onto the field and they do it and walk through form,
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: and then they go from walk through to like a
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: jog through where it's against a defense, but it's not
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: an actual live period, and then they go to the
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: live period where they're running all the same plays, right,
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: but they're sort of progressively building them hustle memory of
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: what is this place supposed to look like? So I
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: think you once you get to the live eleven on
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: eleven's like they've already repped that play sequence like two
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: or three times in the day already, so by the
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: time you get to that point, you really should know
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: what you're doing and have everybody lined up. There was
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: one rehuddle today, which was the first time that I
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: even really took note of that. Pretty much all spring
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: that I don't recall that they had one. It looked
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: like that may be a little bit of a slow
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: defensive substitution on their personnel package like are we you know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: what package are we putting on the field type thing?
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: But overall, I I agree, just such a smoother operation.
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: I just think in general too, there's so much further
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: along offensively with the install now compared to the last
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: couple of years. And all this is mental stuff, like
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: none of this is actually, to Paul's point, like the physical.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: Can they go out there and make the plays. But
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: you can see how they're adding on a little bit
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: and adding on a little bit, you know, to there
• 21:00
  Speaker 7: was some more stuff in the red zone that they
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: didn't do yesterday that they added on today, and.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: Some no huddle stuff early in practice even and they said,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: you know, Rabel said before practice that it was actually
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: no huddle and uh silent count.
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: They were doing silent count stuff in June, you.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Know, Was that why they were blasting the music?
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: But even louder like as soon as they get to
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: the line, they were like increasing the.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Old guys that were standing right in front of the speaker.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: Was it was struggling And I will say the very
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: few nitpicky things that I would say, that's what it resulted.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: It looked like there were times where there may have
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: been a false starter to or not a penalty fall start.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: But not getting off on the snap. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: you know a couple of those. I thought the defense
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: got that.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Doug Landry and Keon White a couple of times got
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: the edge on tackles because it looked like the tackles
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: weren't off at the snap. Yeah, you know, and that's
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: part of the communication stuff. But nitpicky, nitpicky things.
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah right, maybe they jumped off side too, you know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: I never.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Know absolutely, And I thought there were a couple of
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: possible fall starts on offense that they just ran the place.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like a guy jumping a full snap count ahead.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: It was you know, the what's the jump? It was
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: what's what's the guy, uh the Kansas City guy to want?
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Is it ty Taiwan Taylor? What's the guy that always
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: wants to Juwan Juwan? Not Taiwan Jawan Taylor. I thought
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: there were a couple of those today on the Patriots
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: that didn't get called.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I noticed yesterday. I don't know if you got
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: speaking of you know, the snap and getting jumps. Moses,
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: is he a guy that he's a snap type of
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: timer and gets off a little bit early right on
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: the edge of you know.
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I haven't necessarily seen that in his tape in
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: the past. I mean it's not I haven't looked for
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: it either, so you know, you know, I don't know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: but uh, there could be some of that, you know
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: with him. He's getting older and might feel a little
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: bit slower out of the stand. So anything that you
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: can do to kind of steal half a foot or
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: whatever at this point of his career might be worth it.
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: But I I one of the things that you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: just from a after practice standpoint, that Moses was has
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: been holding court all spring after practice, and that group
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: has grown considerably as the spring has increasing, and now
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: it's like the whole offensive line is like staying late
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: to like work on stuff. I saw Mike on went
• 23:23
  Speaker 7: who was like going through some stuff with some people too,
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: some guard you know, into your line stuff, and Moses
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: is standing there, but don is the shirt off, like
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: standing like you know, going through things with guys, and
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: he is constantly Moses is constantly giving pointers. I love
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: constantly coaching. Just it's pretty it's pretty cool.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: That that tells me a couple of things.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: One he knows what he's talking about and people are
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: realizing that and they're they're listening. Is like I said,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: his flock is growing. Also, he's confident in himself and
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: his role on the team. Like a lot of guys
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: they come in on it's like, I don't have time.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: It has been that I got to worry about my
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: own job. He's not seeing it was seemingly worried about that,
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Like he knows my time in this league is limited.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't have much left, so might as
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: well give it.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: Back pour into these young kids, I mean, stiff diticks.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I heard him say similar things about the receiving room,
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: like we got a lot of young guys in here,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: and I want to help.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Them come along. So it's a great sign.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: I think they needed that, And especially when they cleaned
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: out a lot of their old leadership, a lot of
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: their old captains are gone. There's a bit of a
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: void right now for leadership, and those guys are stepping
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: up and hopefully it pays dividends.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: So maybe he's an early candidate for captain.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Oh I thought I would say early candidate to be
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: a guest star on Father Fred. He said, flock and
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: who is.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: Moses Okay, I thought you said Diggs, Yeah, I would.
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: I would think Logan Moses would have a chance to
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: be I thought you were talking about the wide receiver
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: room and then we're talking about you have an older
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: guy and digs in the wide receiver room because they're
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: all young.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: That's exactly what Mike just said it but literally just
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: said that, and then Fred tack back to Moses.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I miss you tack back to Moses because
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: I was reading a Stefan Diggs tweet off of what
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Mike was talking about with the wide receivers and just
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: nothing earth shattering, but he just says he he still
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: believes he's the number one receiver in this league and
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: that his goal was to play in Week one. So
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he got into anything further timetable
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: wise than that, but you know his goal is to
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: be ready by week one. You Know what I liked
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: from Diggs was Tommy Kerr and asked him if he
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: still wore a chip on his shoulder from being a
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: fifth round pick, and the cliche answer is like, of course,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: like and he was kind of like, I don't know,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: that was a long time ago.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: It's kind of funny like, you know.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: He's established himself now, it doesn't seem like he's still
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: motivated by being that.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: You asked that.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Same question as Tom Brady, and no, right, well that's
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: what I was expecting, Paul.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: That was of course. Tom Brady's like, I never forgot that,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: and I remember the name of everybody that did it.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: It says it all the time. A certain point, you're
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: the goat and you have to forget about us.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: I think Tom Brady's still mad about it, right, pretty clear.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: He's like Giovanni piece money.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: From grade school, like people like, he just hates grades,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: right right, Well.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: He's like you. You and Tom have a lot in comment.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: And Richie Campanella, you know, I don't forget.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I don't forget, all right. So what else from practice?
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: You talked about the Gunzales interception?
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we did in poetry. Actually asked Anthony Jennings about it.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I was basically like, you know, is it annoying when
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: you watch a guy that's like that athletic just shoots
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: his hand out just like he was like just like
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: someone tossed to you a piece of paper and you're like, oh,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: he was like you know, covering Kyle Williams down I
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: saw some tweets that Evan put out after after the
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: practice too, and I agreed that there were some we've
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: been talking about the defensive plays.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: The quick little slant.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Or in cutting route to Pop Douglas in the red
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: zone was was a highlight, as was the the play
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Hunter Henry, and I know you mentioned.
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Both of those.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: So there was some plays too in a great I
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: mean it was like secondary groups. But I think Dobbs
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: hit John Giles on a really nice right right at
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: the pile on the front pylon and in the corner
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: in the red zone at the end of the game,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: that that kind of closed practice on a real high
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: note for the offense. It was to Mike's point about
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: the amount of enthusiasm that's going into these plays. The
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: defense is really celebrating every pass breakup, and the offense,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: like all eleven of them were really really into that.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: That Actually wasn't Dobbs, it was the other guy was Woodbridgeridge.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: What do I call him? Woolridge not Woodbridge and a
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: different guy, so different line.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: Is that enthusiasm all Vrabel or is it also his coaches?
• 27:35
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: I thought it was a good sign because I found
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: myself wondering without Terrell Williams here, does the defense lack
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: a little bit of their identity of who they're going
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: to be when you have the actual defensive coordinator who
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: the team often kind of rallies around. And I thought
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: it was a good sign that you felt like the defense.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: And I don't know for sure, but it seemed like, hey,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: the offense had a pretty god day against this yesterday,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: let's bring the energy today. So maybe it is Rabel,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: but I just see it as a really positive sign
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: that the defense is.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: If Terrell Williams is like in touch, and he said, yeah,
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: he's looking at the film every day. Yeah, he's you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: giving us feedback. So he's, you know, as we expected. Yeah,
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: he's up on everything.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's got to be dying to.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine like I would be like
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: kind of feel like fomo if I.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't here to watch it, which I don't.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I don't even know I'm important to that, But to
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: not to be the defensive coordator, to not be able
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: to be there with your guys and to put your
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: stamp on this team and it's your first chance.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it'll be great for them when he finally
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: does get back.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of the energy Bill Belichick would had
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: that football life thing. I think it was where he
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: talked about like celebrating your success, like being excited about
• 28:41
  Speaker 7: making good excited, right. But I feel like when the offense,
• 28:47
  Speaker 7: you know, the last couple of years in training camp,
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: the offense has struggled, Yeah, and it's hard to just
• 28:52
  Speaker 7: manufacture excitement and manufacture energy when you're going out there
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: and you're not doing well and you feel like you're
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: swimming upstream and.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Plus have that one good play and then it's ridiculous,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: right right.
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: And so I feel like maybe this this competitiveness that
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: we're seeing in the energy is because it's more of
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: a back and forth. You know, there's a legitimate back
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: and forth between the two, uh, and and that is
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: going to bring out competitiveness and guys don't want to lose,
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: Guys don't want to be on the wrong end of plays,
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: and you know that sort of thing. So I think
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: that's good that that's what we've seen in the past,
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: when you know, the Patriots were at their best where
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: camps like this, where the camp was energetic, and there
• 29:29
  Speaker 7: was back and forth and there was competition.
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: What did you guys think about being indoors on a
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: day like today.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: I like the burger aspect of it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, otherwise it was it was.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: It's hard to.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: See any more clarity as to why. Like I was
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: telling Paul, like I could see if it was a downpour,
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: and it's really impeding us teaching them learning, you know,
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: because this isn't like getting prepared for a game yet,
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: where you.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Know, it's you don't care about the weather.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: I think there's like trying to get things installed and everything,
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: but like it was just frizzling.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: But there's little things nowadays with these players that if
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: you can give them a practice where they don't have
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: to practice in the rain in the middle of June
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: when you're really not trying to do much like don't
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: be a hardo about it, you know, like don't don't
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: be don't be the other way, because I think that
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: as a player that can be like really like we
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: have to go out in the rain and it's June
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: tenth or whatever it is, Like I don't it's not
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: like they're preparing to play a game on Sunday and weather.
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: No, I get I get that, But at the same time,
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: I don't think there was anything in today's weather that
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: kept you from doing what you needed to do, whereas
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: I can say going indoors did because it's limited.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: It's more, you know, you're packed in, so.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: That's kind I don't know how I felt fred walking in.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: We talked about it before we went over with the
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: weather hamper what they're doing.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: I totally hear everything Evan said, totally true. But I
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: felt when I was walking in kind of like, this
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: is the perfec like light rain, that it'll stress a
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Of snaps and you know, just just put enough stress
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: on the team that it would be an extra challenge
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: that I think you might like to see how they do,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: just to just to ratchet up the intensity that the
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: difficulty just a tiny bit.
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: I just have to pick your battles, Yeah, I mean,
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: I have to pick your battles. With today's athletes, I
• 31:20
  Speaker 7: wonder what the players would have wanted.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's probably an argument to be made
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: that the inside the bubble makes it harder, stuffy, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they don't like practicing on the turf if
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: they don't have to.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah right.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: So I mean I could see it. I could see
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: it both ways.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I kind of agree with Evan and that it's not
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: a huge deal to me either way. And I know
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: that some as I'm looking at my shows, probably will
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: make a big deal out of it, like oh, they're soft,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Like it's not because they're soft, it's not. There's no deep,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: you know, hidden meaning behind it, probably other than what
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Evan said, like, yeah, it's June tenth, we really have
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: to like if it's at all gonna win PS. Now,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: as it turned out, I think Fred, you're right. The
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: weather really wasn't an impediment at all. But maybe this
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: forecast was for a little bit heavier rain and they
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: felt like we probably can get more accomplished going inside.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's also kind of nothing.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Some early injuries too, someone slipping and we don't have
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: blown down in Achilles.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, and there were some competitive plays out
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: there in practice. I mean Coltin Davis it seemed like tackled.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: Well, he didn't, he did not. He did not tackle,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: he did not. They went down in a heap.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: There was there was some like like but a distance
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: it looked like, but they just they're playing hard, they're competing,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: guys are going to fall down.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: Sometimes.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I would worry more about the injuries on that turf
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: than than anything on grass. But again, I'm sure that
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Mike had has reasons.
• 32:47
  Speaker 7: I just said, like, it's not even the injuries thing
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: to me, it's just I don't know, it just picked
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: your battles, like this is not the time where we
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: need to be putting guys out there in the pouring ring.
• 32:58
  Speaker 7: Like if we get into training camp and every single
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: time there's a there's a you know, cloud in the sky,
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: they're moving the practice inside, and that's a different story.
• 33:05
  Speaker 7: But I just don't think that you need to push
• 33:07
  Speaker 7: it with this sort of thing.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: Cut some newsful, Fredy, I read that, you read it, Okay.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: So the Patriots have just announced their training camp dates.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: So these are the dates that will be open to
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: the public. These aren't all the training but these are
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: the dates that the public will.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Be invited to watch.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: And the whole thing starts on Wednesday, July twenty third,
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: So get your pen and paper. July twenty third, the
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: twenty fourth, the twenty fifth, and the twenty sixth, that'll
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: be open practice. Then it resumes on the twenty eighth,
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: the twenty ninth, the thirtieth, and the thirty first, those
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: will be open practices, and then it resumes again on
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: August fourth, fifth, and sixth, and then the final open
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: practice will be August.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Tenth, and the one on the sixth, I believe is
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: the joint just with Washington.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, solo. Yeah, So if you're choosing one, you can
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: only go to one. That would be a good one
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: to go to August sixth.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Important to note, practices are at ten o'clock on this
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: so that's a little bit different than years past. I
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: think at that point they might be nine or nine
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: thirty somewhere in that range maybe, so a little bit
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: of a different practice schedule, probably ten to ten o'clock.
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: And obviously, you know, weather could change that in going
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: in the bubble and all that, but you know, ten
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: o'clock that could be good for this show because we
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: might be able to get some guys right off the field,
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: you know, twelve thirty or so sure to come into
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: the show. So that that's that'll be good for us.
• 34:37
  Speaker 7: So remember, first handful of practices are nonpadded, just like
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: what we're watching in the spring right now, So maybe
• 34:43
  Speaker 7: you're looking for like the real padded practices. You got
• 34:46
  Speaker 7: to kind of wait till the second.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Week of training that Monday, maybe that would be.
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: There's some NFLPA math that I practice, but probably Sunday
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: Sunday ramp up period. It's a whole thing.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: So if you miss the dates, be up on Patriots
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: dot com. But training camp dates have been an ounce
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: so that's exciting.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: So Wednesday, July twenty third, right, so that's the opening practice.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, twelve days.
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: Twelve days of open practice will be in Minnesota for
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: a couple so.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and then and then it's then it's just
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: kind of open to the media there at the end
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: they'll be there's like a handful more h after, but
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: not to the fans. Yeah, no, I should be good.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Go to that joint practice if you're looking for something
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: to do. I can't recommend it enough. Joint practice is
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: a usually usually fun time. You get some ratcheted up
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: competition levels, get to see some other Washington, You get
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: a chance to see you know, Jayden Daniels.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Are you at all curious like in the past when
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: they had joint practices it was usually two days.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is only one.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, last year they.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Just did a lot of teams have been going to one.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: They did they we only did one with Philly last year.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Right, it was brutal, it was enough it.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, like with two is
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: it because like you know, because they tempers flair.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I think that's why teams have the decided to go back.
• 36:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that they're it's they're great in terms
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: of in really all angles like fan experience, our experience.
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: Obviously they get good work in, but the league does
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: kind of have to get a hold of the fights
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: that break out at these practices, Like there's skirmishes at
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: pretty much every single one of these things, and whether
• 36:21
  Speaker 7: it's finding people or or docking practices or whatever the
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: case may be. They we're getting to the point now
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: where they might need to step in.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: Last year, the year before where Green Bay almost went
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: into the where the fans were.
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: Yeah Carolina, right, oh, yeah, that was here green Bay
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: two years ago.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: I saw that one day two years ago.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: The second day, it was like seven fights within the
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: first like eight snaps, Like yeah, that skirmish, skirmish and
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: this bad And I think that's part of why they
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: moved in one day.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: But I'll be curious that they're going to stick to
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: one day with Minnesota too, or if they're gonna maybe
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: they double.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I heard that was scheduled for two days, but I'm
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: not sure.
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would hope. So if they're on all the
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: way to Minnesota for the week.
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: More than one, I mean, Washington could say the same thing,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: you know, So.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, you go for the practice and then the game.
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but then the.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Same as Washington, Like they're coming here for one practice
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: and then they're gonna have to walk through. No, there
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: might be, but I'm just saying I don't have to see,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: you know, in terms of a mentality.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: I mean, well for them, I'm just selfish.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, if they if they do two practices, they
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: do two practices. But you know whatever, it's the same
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: same thing, all right, all right? What is going on
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: on the warming It's like an eighteen wheeler, Like the
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: right outside.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: Of the weekend is warming up outside. They have a
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: concert tonight.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: And when you find that ironic, Fred that the weekend
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: is warming up on a Tuesday.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Tuesday, get started early, you know, can.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: I can I say one more thing? I just say
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of things, Mike.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: You know, Paul and I were watching and I think
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: we mentioned before that we felt like Christian Barmore looks
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: like he's in pretty good shape. And I just saw
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: one play kind of stood out to me. For the
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: passing play, Barmore rushes the passer complete passing the flat
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: and Barmore peels off and pursues.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: All the way down.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: You know, I just that to me stood out as
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: a mini camp effort play. I just wrote good shape,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: you know, dash energy like it just seems like he
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: had a lot of energy. And I was reading Mike's
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: transcript from yesterday and he mentioned that, you know, you
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: guys have seen Barmore, you know, chasing down plays or.
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Something along those lines.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: And I was thinking, to myself, I missed that, and
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: then sure enough I watched the practice today and that's
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: exactly what Mike was talking about.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Was the play that just mentioned.
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: Got right in on the backfield on beat. Mike on
• 38:44
  Speaker 7: went who on a pass play too? Got right in there.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: Him and Milton.
• 38:48
  Speaker 7: Williams are like the two amigos inside there. They they
• 38:51
  Speaker 7: are separable and then in a good way, a lot
• 38:53
  Speaker 7: of those guys are coming after a lot of Yeah yeah,
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: I mean just the things that you can do, even
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: as lightning and lightening, like having those guys like you know,
• 39:02
  Speaker 7: draw double teams and stuff like that is just going
• 39:04
  Speaker 7: to make like Keon White and Harald Landry and Chase
• 39:08
  Speaker 7: On and those guys are just gonna have one on
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: ones for four straight corners.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: White have a good one around the edge.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Seemed like they ratcheted up the pressure a little bit
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: more with like the linebackers and you know in the
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: b gaps and the gaps I should say double mug
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: looks and stuff.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: So you know, they seemed like the defense was thank you.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: I guess let's you know, I.
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: Defense I had a little bit enough of yesterday. I
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: think defensively, they were like all right, that's yeah. They
• 39:33
  Speaker 7: were doing three man rushes in the red zone and
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: you guys completed some passes, so we'll dial it.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Look at those.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: So people are watching right now and they see the
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: triple box with all the camp dates right there, so there.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: You go, beautiful, ye look at this good stuff all.
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: At once to to like, you know.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I used to be like they tell you Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: and then he'd wait.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Well, there's some fine print underneath as subject to change.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know gates opening.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Gates open at nine to fifteen, practice approximately ten fifteen.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: So it's you know, now like those are the twelve
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: dates they're going to be, you know, scheduled to practice.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: You know, it's a plant plan. Accordingly, get there early.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: I'll get you, you know, pumped up with speech. They're
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: not still going to do that. I'm going to have you.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: He's the hype man. And I'd run out there with
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: the finger in there him and serge.
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: You do some Jaws trivia right by the way he
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: let me die, I repriment it. I said, no more
• 40:36
  Speaker 5: appearances than ninety eight point five if you're going.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: To perform like that.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: You know, he let me down today knowing that the
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: license right now, Louisiana, I know, I said, Jersey, Yeah, Fred,
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: take my Jaws card. And then it didn't get the
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: second one either, h Well, which one was that one?
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: That was the name of the the doctor.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: And yeah, the doctor that they paid.
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: No, No, that would be a past.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: That one was impossible that, like I said to Mike Spielberg,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: would have gotten out one, but the Harbormaster.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: I knew that one. Frank Silva. Frank Silva. Now I
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: just watched it Saturday, okay, because.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: You need it a sense groove text you text you
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: want on her, AMC. It had just started, I said,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Jaws Alert, AMC. I did do a quick impression of
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: right as that text came in, sitting in front of
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: the TV like this. So so the funny part of
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: that is I I had to go. You know, it's
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: his grad grad party season, so I had to go
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: to a graduation party. I watched probably the first maybe
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: forty five minutes of Jaws, took a shower, got dressed,
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: went to the party. I come back and Death at
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: this time is now home from work and Will is
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: with her and they're watching just three because it just
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: it just just kept going, and Will was watching Jaws
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: with me. It just kept watching, and they were up
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: to the three Diva, which was just so bad. Like
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: the three and that was just so bad, like especially
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: in the climax and like lou Gossip Juniors in like
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: slow motion and it's just so clearly projection.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Of a start coming out and it just stops that
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: it's Quade though, good stuff, good stuff. Did not see three.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: I know, I never saw three.
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: I've never seen two.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Two was so bad.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: I was like, I'm so two.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: It's not anywhere near as good as the original, but
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: as far as like cheesy Hollywood see but it looks
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: like Jaws right, like I still got that smar as
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: cheesy Hollywood sequels go. It wasn't bad, but we was
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: just an abomination. Not this again, Brody, come on, like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: you know, don't he believes them?
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: It was so bad.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Three, Stevie writes in I was wondering how different are
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: the wide receiver drills compared to years past. It doesn't
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: look like it will translate better than years past.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: They're definitely different. They're definitely different.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I think every coach has different drills, but how they
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: translate to the performance on the field.
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: Like like about the drills though, and they even the
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: conditioning at the end. Everything's competitive, like everything's a contest.
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: It's not just like we're just going through drills, like
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: you know, they do some of that stuff, but the
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: wide receivers in particular, like they're racing there, like you know,
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: who can get through the cones the fastest? And like
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: there's always some sort of back and forth.
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Even the last thing they did today you talk about
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: that a little bit.
• 43:24
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was cool. They were pushing a sled, you know,
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: it's like the across different Yeah, it's not even position.
• 43:32
  Speaker 7: It looked like they were competing, right, like who could
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: get the sled to the end of the of the
• 43:36
  Speaker 7: field the fastest, And you know, one guy would push
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: it as far as he could, and then the next
• 43:40
  Speaker 7: guy and then the next guy, and they kind of
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: kept building it up and like there it was gamifying. Yeah,
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: it was a game. Yea.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Also see that that it's not even a drill.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: They just kind of all line up and then it's
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: like a scatter sprint where some guys are sprint into
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: the far corner, other guys are going.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: Right across the sideline. You just see guys running full
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: speed a lot more for whatever.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: That's worth a lot more than and I haven't seen
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: and I think it's probably.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Part of the whole process.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen this much in terms of the after
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: practice conditioning running as we've seen in the past, because
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I think they're running full speed constantly during practice. They
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: get they're getting their conditioning while practicing. The receivers. We've
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: mentioned this several times. They run full throttle all the
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: way to the end zone on every rep, you know,
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: in the pre practice sort of portion when they're running
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: against the air and whatnot. I don't remember seeing that.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: I remember, you know, the receivers taking the ball all
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: the way to the end zone. You know, they might
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: go sixty yards all the way to the end zone.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: But this is clearly one full tilt to the end
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: zone and it's every single guy. So if you have
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: five guys that are running out and only three guys
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: are throwing passes, all five guys are going all.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: The way to the end zone full speed every rep.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's something Rable might be saying.
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: It's like, if I see that you guys are going
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: all out during practice, we're not doing sprints.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Exactly what my hockey coaching college used to do.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: We would do in between drills, you do two quick laps,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: and so between every drill you'd have a sprint and
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: by the end you just need to a couple. So
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: we've had now five because we had three ot as
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: that we watched in two mini camp practices plus rookie
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: mini camp. And I would say that I saw sort
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: of traditional runs after after the practice is over, maybe
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: twice one that I can think of.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm figuring I might have missed one where
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: they went to the hill. Yeah, like it, you know,
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: just usually they just do not even to the hill.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: I think they did it in the end zone, like
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: across the you know, across the field, shorter shorter ones.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one that that Drake laid Yeah, did speak okay,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: speaking of false starts, by the way, that one was
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: he's calling the signals, he's getting a jump Oh no.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: He gets a jump out, still leading right the quarter.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: But talk about making something out of nothing.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: He's the leader, he's halfway there, and he's.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: Like, he's you know, the pace. I know when I'm
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: gonna saying, can you give him? You know, give it
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: to him?
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: It was, it was.
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: It was funny though, because a lot of people made
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't a lot of people made a.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Big deal out of it, and I was just like
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: to ask you a quick questions, how does this make
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: like him?
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: What about?
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: How does how does this Martian stuff make you feel
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: about it?
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: I don't want to talk about okay, I think.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: It's great comparison to Brady, like are you happy for him?
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: Like I love Brad Marshan, I I have nothing nice
• 46:27
  Speaker 7: to say about the Bruins.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: See the difference to me is I really don't like
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Florida and I had nothing against the Bucks. So look
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: like Brady's success in Tampa didn't bug me. This is
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: kind of bugging me. I don't like I don't like
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: the Anthers, and I don't like the way the oil
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: is played.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: The other night, is that last time.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: Publicans said four goals he might win the cons mic,
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: he literally might win.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: The co.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh had a question about Drake May and whether we're
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: seeing any signs so far that he will be doing
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: more instructure running this year since he does not have
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: the physique of a Josh Allen Jalen Hurts. Do you
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: think this team will be running tush push or QB
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: sneak type plays and are there other high percentage, low
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: yardage plays this team could or will run with Drake May.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: It's a tough question to ask, that is, I wouldn't
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: say any of the You don't see sneaks in practice.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: They don't run quarterbacks sneaks, especially, you know when they're
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: not in pads, so you wouldn't even work on like
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: a tush push at mini camp.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: We have no idea. Do you think that I wore?
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: I would think that Josh McDaniels likes mobile quarterbacks. He's
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: never really had a chance to fully embrace one, with
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: the exception of the COVID year with Cam Newton and
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: he ran came a lot so Camelot, So I would
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: I would expect to see some design runs for Drake may,
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: especially in.
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: The low red zone area down by the goal line
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: where if he's going to keep it, he's probably gonna
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: hopefully like walk into the end zone and there won't
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: be much contact there. And if it is, it's out
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: in space with like a corner or something like that,
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: and it's not We're not talking about a head on
• 48:10
  Speaker 7: collision with a linebacker and the hole type of thing
• 48:12
  Speaker 7: like they did with Cam where he is more of
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: a battering ram. But I definitely think you're going to
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: see some of that with sneaks. I don't know. I mean,
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: like Paul said, we haven't done that at practice yet.
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: I wouldn't roll out. You know, a lot of teams
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: use their tight end now like a hunter, Henry, you know,
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: they'll put the quarterback in the gun and then the
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: tight end motions under center and then they snap at
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: the Chiefs do that with Travis Kelcey doing it in
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: seaid them a home, so and yeah, it's a save
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: the injuries so or the risk of injury. So yeah.
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: But the design quarterback rounds I think are going to
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: be in their back pocket. How much they're going to
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: use it.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: Something we talked about a lot last year.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: I think we can all get on the same page
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: for in the red zone where you're gonna limit the
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: amount of hits he's going to take. Like Evan said,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: that was something we were talking about last year, Like
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: that's a spot work, just it's too hard for the defense.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: So I would work more about him physically on scrambles
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: because he never pulls the plug, you know, on a
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: on a zone read like like Evan just explained, on
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: a design like you know, you're running, you know, like
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: you're sort of protecting yourself. It's not an ad lib,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: you know, and if it's in the red zone, hopefully
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: you're ending up in the end zone and you're not getting.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Hit at all.
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: You know, you can sort of justinger what Rabel said about.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Most of the red zone plays that happened, it's one.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: To one till bailout.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: In part of me nodding good, mic, I would say
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: that's most of the plays. Forget about red zone. Like
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: the NFL has just turned into that, and you can
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: blame the guy in Kansas City a little bit if
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: you want, Like that's that's a lot of the league is.
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: You know, they have a primary read and then they
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: have a secondary read off of that, and then it's
• 49:50
  Speaker 7: just makes something happen. You know, the quarterbacks are so
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: athletic and they have that improv skill and all that.
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: You know, you can probably count on one hand the
• 49:59
  Speaker 7: amount of time you see quarterbacks get through an entire progression. Nowadays,
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: a lot of times they just don't have time. Yeah yeah,
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: I mean get a dodge.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: But it's not like these offensive lines are you know,
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: the Wall and Game of Thrones.
• 50:11
  Speaker 7: I can definitely tell that we're gonna have some debates
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: about this quarterback run thing, because like I'm squarely in
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: the camp of he needs to run, Like if you
• 50:20
  Speaker 7: are going to take that out of his game, then
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: he's not going to be And why would you take
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: away that threat?
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Why are we going to debate, Well, I just I
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: know what.
• 50:28
  Speaker 7: People get bothered by it because it's the risk of
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: injury and they don't want to get hurt. And it's like,
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: I get that, But if you're he that is a
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: superpower of his right. If you take that superpower away
• 50:38
  Speaker 7: and you try to make him into just this pocket
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: stationary pocket passer, like you're not, he's not going to
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: maximize his skill set. He's not. You're not going to
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: get the best out of it.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: I would just say that if he gets blindsided in
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: the pocket as a stationary pocket passer and he gets hurt,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: it's not going to make me feel any better than
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: then I will if he gets hurt running his own
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: read Right now, I think that the sign of progress
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: will be the old gains, the first down slides pops
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: up does the little thing. To me, it's it's the scrambles.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: It's not even the zone reads like you know you
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: you're running and I know that he I think he
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: had like a forty yard touchdown run last year. You know,
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: and I understand those plays are possible, but hopefully the
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: offense progresses to a point where you won't need those
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: kinds of plays. And you know, if it's third and
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: eight and you get ten, get down, yep, you know
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: there's no no need to take those extra hits there. Yeah,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: but I would be strongly on Evan's side debating people
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: that Jalen Jaydon Daniels not run. I mean, and this
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: is part of what makes them special. The guys that
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: run effectively in that league are are extra good because
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: of that element that they're bringing. It's not just their
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: passing ability. I find it so demoralizing when that happens.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: We talk about it all the time over the years
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: of third and long. You got everybody covered and he
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: just gets the first down. It does a little celebrat
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: thing he did best last year backbreaker, just get down.
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: Could he get that Patrick Mahomes thing going where Patrick
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: Mahomes just runs just fast enough to run everybody and
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: you get out of bound. Yeah, he always Now he
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: sometimes takes dives out of bound, but often I have
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: no problem with that either.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: You know, he he's like master unless is cheap.
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: He's mastered scrambling without taking hits like Patrick Mahomes truly
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: has mastered that, and so that that that's an element he's.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: The master of frustrating, Like, you're right about that. Mac
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Jones used to annoy me the way he used to
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: fling his body out of bounds as if he got hit,
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: but he didn't get hit, right, But that's the only one.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: It was just mock.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: Okay, Tim our friend from Duncan about the training camp days,
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: he said, should I assume no season ticket holder practice
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: this year?
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: No, I would not assume that. I just don't know
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: when it will be.
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that wasn't in the group of dates that we gave,
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: but if you are a season ticket member, I'm sure
• 52:52
  Speaker 5: they'll be in touch with you shortly about that date.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: So he's also Foxborough residents as well.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: Josh from Virginia writ sin, does Drake may give off
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: little brother energy?
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: Well, he is a little brother, so a little bit
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: to his own family. Yeah, I mean I think that
• 53:13
  Speaker 7: that's what they like about him, is that he's the
• 53:14
  Speaker 7: youngest of a bunch of athletic brothers.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Is that like a puppy, Like he's a puppy with
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: that kind of energy? Boundless energy? Or what does he
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: mean by.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Tom Brady was a young brother too. He had sisters though,
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: so I don't know I don't know.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: What it means. I just don't know what little brother energy.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: You know what he wants us.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: Let me try and coach.
• 53:33
  Speaker 6: I'll get in there.
• 53:34
  Speaker 7: I can do it.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: Like that's I mean, not that I play I play
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Bobby extra scrappy because you've always had a fight for
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: just playing time or like that part of it.
• 53:43
  Speaker 7: But it is not when they draft kind of sweat.
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: I'm not sure exactly when they drafted him. That was
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: an angle, like I was saying it was the only
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: reason they drafted him. But his brothers were highly successful athletes,
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: especially Luke May, who was like a North Carolina basketball
• 53:56
  Speaker 7: legend and he was always getting beat up on by
• 53:59
  Speaker 7: his older brother. And he's going to probably be the
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: best athlete out of all of them. Is the best,
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: I mean, is the best?
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: Doesn't want them play like basketball in japano Luke.
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, But he's I mean Drake May in the NFL.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: So it's a joke.
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: He did hit like one of the biggest shots, right
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: up there with Michael Jordan's game winner.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: You know, uh eight five five past five hundred is
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: the hotline Christians in LA.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: What's up, Christian? What do you have to say today
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: to make everyone.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Master good, Christian good good.
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: Hey. So on the Drake May running project, it was
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: surprising to me, but actually turns out statistically that Drake
• 54:40
  Speaker 8: May was one more efficient than Jayden Daniels in his
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: run too, had a better average her run than Jadeen
• 54:50
  Speaker 8: Daniels than three, had more closive runs than than Jadan Daniels.
• 54:55
  Speaker 8: I don't know when they got the batom I was
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: breathing and on what it was biggest today I found
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: hard to believe, but I gets that those are that.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: I don't find it hard to believe at all. But
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: he was not as effective as a runner is You
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: can make a big part of the offense.
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: Case that he was the best scrambling quarterback in the
• 55:11
  Speaker 7: league last year.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: I believe he was.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just statistically, I would say that the difference is
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels ran by design.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: Drake May didn't.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: That's why the efficiency numbers aren't the same. But in
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: terms of effectiveness, Jayden Daniels was far more effective running.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: He's a huge part of the It's a huge part
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: of the Commander's offense was designed runs by him. But
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: like getting getting two yards on fourth and one is
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: a much better run than getting thirty yards on a scramble.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Why we have a paul and they didn't result in wins,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: so like.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: Does not commit.
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Obviously, you know that that that didn't make sense what
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: I just said. I just want to correct myself before
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: that one gets out of it gets away from me.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: The thirty yards obviously is a great run. But what
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I'm what I'm saying is that was a big part
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: of Washington's offense was Jayden Daniels's legs. It was not
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: a big part of the Patriots offense by It was
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: more by running for his life. So you could say,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: like the efficiency because he averaged more more poor carry.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Sure you could have all those numbers, it wasn't as.
• 56:09
  Speaker 8: Good, But doesn't that get credence to the fact that
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: we should then begin to incorporate drink.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Mate, Christian, We're all with you. That was Evan's big,
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: big point to st We're all with you.
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta establish the threat of him running
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: on a design play that's only gonna be good for
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: the rest of the offense.
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: I mean, last year as Christian Buffalo, after everybody made
• 56:32
  Speaker 7: a whole stink about it in Arizona that they weren't
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: running him by design, and he had one on fourth
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: down where he just waltzed to a first down and
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: he slipped down, and it was that's what we're talking about.
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: We're not asking him. There weren't enough gap and like
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: you know, have to take on the linebacker and the hole,
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: like you know that. That's what Cam Newton used to do.
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: And Cam Newton's a totally different athlete, like we're this
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: is about getting him out in space and against smaller
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: guys and and getting them down on the ground.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I say things that are so stupid they even
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: be shipped my own head.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: That was one of them that we know that line.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: I know, I know you know what I meant, But
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: I could just see that one getting out of control
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: on me.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: Those are really dumb. Three yards, two yards, thirty yard
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: runs not that was that was worse than Deuce is
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: twelve and four. That's good. I'm gonna keep that on
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: the back back yard run like you. I corrected myself. No,
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: that's it's too many, too many. Yeah, that was a
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: stupid comment.
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: All right, So we'll end on that note on a
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: stupid comment. Okay, all right, So that's it for mini
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: camp for all intensive purposes.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: They were intensive purposes and heart used to say.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: Intensive purposes when I was young.
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: I wrote that once in an essay. It felt so stupid,
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: you know, got the big red mark.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: It's intensive purposes. Okay, my lesson.
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: They'll be here tomorrow, but they won't be out practice,
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: and if they are, it's news to us.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: We won't know.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: We won't be out there with them. And then I
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: think rookies are hanging around a little bit.
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, Campbell said he's going to be here for
• 58:04
  Speaker 7: the majority of the time. Yeah, maybe like a week off,
• 58:06
  Speaker 7: you know, just to take some time to reset, but
• 58:09
  Speaker 7: he's going to be Yeah, all.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: Right, but that's it now. These are the true dog
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: days of the end of the void. Yeah, but we'll
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: fill them.
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: We'll still be here on our normal schedule Tuesdays and
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: Thursdays up until training camp, and that's when some fun begins.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: I won't say the real fund does that happens in September.
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: All right, Thanks for watching, Thanks for listening. We'll see
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: you next Tuesday.
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: Hey, this is Deuce. Thanks for tuning into the show.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: If you really want to help us, make sure you
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: like us wherever you get your podcasts, like Apple Podcasts
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: or Spotify. Also make sure you follow us on the
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: New England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: everything else that we do here at the Patriots.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: Thanks a lot,