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8-26-26 KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne Hour 2 · KSEV Mornings with Craig and Wayne

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Speaker 1: I mean, anything at all.
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Speaker 2: No, it's crazy.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Thunderdome, people.
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Speaker 4: News, opinions, politics, and the stories that matter to Texans.
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Speaker 5: I shaved for this?
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Speaker 4: Here are your hosts, Craig Collins and Wayne Dolcefino.
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Speaker 1: Remember, everyone, just don't be yourselves.
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Speaker 4: On KSEV AM 700, The Voice of Texas.
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Speaker 6: Yes!
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Speaker 7: That's awesome!
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Speaker 6: Ah!
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Speaker 5: And now, Craig Collins and Wayne Dolcefino.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Dana.
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Speaker 8: This is KSEV Mornings. My name is Craig Collins. Wayne
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Speaker 8: is on special assignment today. Thrilled to be with you.
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Speaker 8: I'm going to do something you're really not supposed to
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Speaker 8: do on radio. I'm going to carry a conversation from
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Speaker 8: the last half hour over into this half hour.
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Speaker 2: Just because I'm interested in it.
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Speaker 8: We were talking about earlier in the show Iran, quite
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Speaker 8: a bit about Iran, actually, and the United States' decision-making
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Speaker 8: when it comes to Iran.
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Speaker 2: Had a couple callers call in, one of them very
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Speaker 2: much against anything the U.S.
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Speaker 8: Has done recently, and one of them seeming to understand,
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Speaker 8: and I don't think that he weighed in as much
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Speaker 8: about Iran specifically, but that sometimes you have to do
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Speaker 8: stuff in the world in which we live, even if
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Speaker 8: you don't want to do it.
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Speaker 2: So to contextualize this.
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Speaker 8: Discussion, I actually want to give everyone listening a little history,
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Speaker 8: like not a big one.
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Speaker 2: We're not going to go deep.
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Speaker 8: Let's just do a little bit of this, because people
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Speaker 8: do ask questions of when the conflict actually started. meaning
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Speaker 8: when did Iran start to be noncompliant with any of
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Speaker 8: the things we were demanding of them? And was it
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Speaker 8: the fault of the president of the United States in 2018,
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Speaker 8: which would have been Donald Trump, for removing ourselves from
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Speaker 8: the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action?
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Speaker 2: Was it the fault of Israel and.
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Speaker 8: The United States for the attack that occurred in June
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Speaker 8: of this year, of last year, excuse me, where we
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Speaker 8: bombed their enrichment facilities for uranium? Or would it be
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Speaker 8: more recently this year, when we actually started a military conflict,
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Speaker 8: which legally still would not be called a war. Right now,
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Speaker 8: because Congress has not declared war, we're not at war.
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Speaker 8: And so one other thing I will say about that quickly,
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Speaker 8: before I give you any of the history of this,
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Speaker 8: is that if we were at war, there would be
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Speaker 8: boots on the ground. To believe that we would go
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Speaker 8: to war and not put boots on the ground is silly,
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Speaker 8: because the moment where we actually declare actual war, like
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Speaker 8: the conflict going on between Russia and Ukraine, That's when
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Speaker 8: we use the full might of our military to fight
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Speaker 8: a fight. We don't sit on the sidelines anymore. No
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Speaker 8: part of our military sits on the sidelines in that moment.
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Speaker 8: We would be in all-out war. And so then boots
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Speaker 8: would absolutely be on the ground, which, again, has not
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Speaker 8: happened because it's not going to happen. And I don't
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Speaker 8: think we'll ever get to the point where Congress actually
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Speaker 8: declares war on Iran. Instead, we will continue to do
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Speaker 8: what the president will call military actions to protect our country.
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Speaker 2: So here's what's most valuable to this. I know this
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Speaker 2: is a deep dive. But I can't help it.
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Speaker 8: I want people to understand this, just to understand why
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Speaker 8: I think the decision we made was good, irrelevant to
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Speaker 8: who's in office. I don't think it mattered. It's fine
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Speaker 8: that it's Trump, obviously. I voted for the man, so
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Speaker 8: that's fine. But I think this is something that we
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Speaker 8: long had to do. Iran has, for years, a long,
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Speaker 8: long time, struggled to actually do the things that any organization,
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Speaker 8: any government, any a group of people that would, say,
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Speaker 8: inspect their facilities.
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Speaker 2: They've struggled to actually do the stuff we tell them
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Speaker 2: to do.
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Speaker 8: But as far as any sort of recent version of
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Speaker 8: a demonstration of that, in 2024, Iran was warned by
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Speaker 8: the IAEA about a lack of transparency for the nuclear activities.
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Speaker 8: That was in 2024, not 2025, for people that don't
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Speaker 8: know this. The IAEA publicly said that you're not cooperating
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Speaker 8: with us the way that you're supposed to. And they
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Speaker 8: were still allowing investigations to an extent by the IAEA Iran,
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Speaker 8: which is an organization that does that, well after 2018
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Speaker 8: when President Trump removed us from the Joint Comprehensive Plan
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Speaker 8: of Action.
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Speaker 2: So then what happened next?
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Speaker 8: On June 12th, the IAEA Board of Governors found Iran
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Speaker 8: actually noncompliant with safeguards and obligations that they were required
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Speaker 8: to follow for the first time in 20 years.
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Speaker 2: That was June 12th of 2025. On June 13th, Israel
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Speaker 2: began attacking Iran.
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Speaker 8: Because they would care more than us about noncompliance and
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Speaker 8: nuclear weapons and preventing that from being a thing. And
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Speaker 8: by the 21st of last year, June of last year,
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Speaker 8: excuse me, the United States bombed the enrichment facilities, which
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Speaker 8: put them back, we assume, pretty far in their ability
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Speaker 8: to eventually get a nuclear weapon. And then fast forward
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Speaker 8: to this year and their attempts to still create one
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Speaker 8: that we found through, I believe, a valuable military intelligence
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Speaker 8: and attempted access to what was buried deep underground. and
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Speaker 8: just an overall demonstration that their desire is to create
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Speaker 8: a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 2: So now we're in a fight with them.
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Speaker 8: And as far as saying that military leaders or political
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Speaker 8: leaders in Iran prevented the Iranian government from wanting a
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Speaker 8: nuclear weapon, the stupidity of that is incredible to me,
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Speaker 8: to hear someone say that out loud, because actually the
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Speaker 8: parliament in Iran had voted completely in disregard of to
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Speaker 8: the people at the top, the Ayatollah or anyone else
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Speaker 8: in charge, to continue enriching uranium to create a nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 8: This is something they voted for multiple times well before
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Speaker 8: we get to the point we're in now. So they
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Speaker 8: didn't even care the parliament in Iran. Not that I
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Speaker 8: need to explain all of this to everyone out there,
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Speaker 8: but I doubt a lot of people know this. What
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Speaker 8: their own leader was saying, they did not care. They
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Speaker 8: kept enriching uranium. They kept barreling toward the inevitability of
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Speaker 8: wanting and desiring uranium.
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Speaker 2: Nuclear weapon.
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Speaker 8: And they'll continue to do that until we stop them,
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Speaker 8: until we fight them. Did Israel provide some of our
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Speaker 8: military intelligence?
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Speaker 2: I bet they did. Did we decide that it was accurate?
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Speaker 2: I bet we did that, too. And so then we
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Speaker 2: make our decision.
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Speaker 8: And our decision is to fight a country that no
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Speaker 8: matter what they say out loud. And here's the point
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Speaker 8: I was making earlier in the show. Even the negotiations
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Speaker 8: to try to get back to a place where we
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Speaker 8: could inevitably end this conflict are going horribly wrong. because
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Speaker 8: Iran refuses to agree to the stuff that we want
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Speaker 8: them to agree to. We want the inspections to come back.
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Speaker 8: We want the IAEA involved.
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Speaker 2: We want all of that again. But we want more
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Speaker 2: than that.
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Speaker 8: We want to make sure that there's not any way
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Speaker 8: for them to skirt those requirements, a la the IAEA
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Speaker 8: in 2024, saying that they were breaking rules, saying that
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Speaker 8: they were doing things wrong in 2025, full on saying
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Speaker 8: that they were noncompliant with the requirements that were placed
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Speaker 8: on them by any country, not just us. to desire
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Speaker 8: that they don't have a nuclear weapon because of how
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Speaker 8: much they'd intend to use it on the world. I mean,
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Speaker 8: even the way that they're handling the Strait of Hormuz
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Speaker 8: screams to me and should scream to anyone listening to
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Speaker 8: the show that if they had the capability to harm
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Speaker 8: the world more, they'd be doing it right now in
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Speaker 8: any way they can, every way that they can. So
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Speaker 8: it's amazing to me that people say that or seem
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Speaker 8: to believe that Trump gets into the White House and
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Speaker 8: just suddenly decides he's bombing Iran immediately for the heck
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Speaker 8: of it. Like, yeah, you know, I'll just go ahead
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Speaker 8: and do it. There's nothing bad happening here. No one
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Speaker 8: is disobeying any rules. I'm just going to make a
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Speaker 8: decision on my own, which he can do as the
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Speaker 8: commander in chief of the military, to go ahead and
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Speaker 8: start a conflict because anyone that believes that is just
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Speaker 8: refusing to do the research, which is silly to me.
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Speaker 8: Just at least do the research. Do the homework, I guess,
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Speaker 8: is the request. I've done a little bit of it
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Speaker 8: for you. If you want to do more yourself, you can.
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Speaker 8: But that's the reason. That's the context for my belief
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Speaker 8: that what's going on right now in the Middle East
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Speaker 8: is a decision that the United States inevitably had to
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Speaker 8: make because there was no scenario in the future, regardless
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Speaker 8: of who's in power, regardless of what written agreement we have,
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Speaker 8: where Iran remains compliant to any of the things we're
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Speaker 8: asking them to do.
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Speaker 2: We have to blow stuff up.
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Speaker 8: We have to remove enriched uranium almost entirely from their country,
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Speaker 8: probably entirely from their country. Can't really allow them to
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Speaker 8: have a nuclear power anymore, even civilian power.
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Speaker 2: Capabilities of it because they try to find.
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Speaker 8: Ways to do worse things and to get things closer
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Speaker 8: to a nuclear weapon if we give them that little
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Speaker 8: tiny avenue. But I don't know that that's necessarily actually
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Speaker 8: being discussed. We'd probably allow them to just have nuclear
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Speaker 8: power and very simply enriched uranium if, in fact, they
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Speaker 8: actually demonstrate to us all the other things that they
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Speaker 8: have to do to be compliant with our demands. And
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Speaker 8: I do think it's good that no fake paper agreement
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Speaker 8: has been signed to end the conflict that we actually
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Speaker 8: want the real agreement this time, so we stop the
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Speaker 8: stuff that we don't want them to do. I hope
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Speaker 8: all this made sense. I couldn't help it. Wanted to
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Speaker 8: do the deep dive. Go ahead and look any of
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Speaker 8: the things up that I just said to make sure
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Speaker 8: they're true, because they are absolutely factual.
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Speaker 8: shows do this now, that wants you to listen but
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Speaker 8: jump on as often as people do here.
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Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing. It's good to hear from
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Speaker 2: the audience.
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Speaker 8: It's actually kind of fun to interact with you and
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Speaker 8: hear the things you agree with and disagree with. I
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Speaker 8: want to go back to a piece of audio I
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Speaker 8: played earlier and play it again and get a deeper
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Speaker 8: discussion on it because I think it got derailed the
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Speaker 8: first time. And I do think it's really important to
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Speaker 8: any discussion we have politically here in our state, in
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Speaker 8: our city, or in the country. Because there's a lot
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Speaker 8: of people that believe, and I've often said this too,
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Speaker 8: this is actually a belief I also have, that if
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Speaker 8: things are going poorly, if decision making isn't going the
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Speaker 8: way you want, if say, and let's use Houston as
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Speaker 8: an example, there's too much crime, which there is, there's
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Speaker 8: way too many decisions to make things more expensive, like
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Speaker 8: additional costs on you and I via homeowner, you know,
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Speaker 8: different property taxes and whatnot. Like there's so many different
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Speaker 8: avenues to say things are going poorly. So then the
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Speaker 8: obvious objective or the obvious logical next step is to
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Speaker 8: go ahead and switch sides.
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Speaker 2: Let's let's get the other team in. Let's see if
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Speaker 2: they do better.
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Speaker 8: And there are times when I inherently agree with that
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Speaker 8: idea because it can't be worse is usually the reaction
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Speaker 8: that I have is you can't possibly do more harm
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Speaker 8: to you and I on a daily basis than what
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Speaker 8: the Democrats do here in Harris County or throughout a
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Speaker 8: lot of the country. You can't possibly do more harm.
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Speaker 8: But case in point, is when you say things like
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Speaker 8: gas prices are too high, let's go ahead and put
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Speaker 8: Democrats back in power because they're going to lower them.
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Speaker 8: I scratch my head or I shake my head at
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Speaker 8: that idea because the next question of how deserves to
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Speaker 8: be like, how is that going to be different? How
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Speaker 8: are any of the policies of the Democratic side going
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Speaker 8: to improve any of the economic outlook for you and me,
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Speaker 8: you know, in the next few years, few months or ever?
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Speaker 8: When does that ever really happen? And so this was
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Speaker 8: a great interview, a great conversation. It was on Chris
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Speaker 8: Cuomo's podcast with one of the leaders of Turning Point
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Speaker 8: USA about how terrible 2028 would be if President AOC
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Speaker 8: were reality, which I can't I can't actually fathom. I
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Speaker 8: don't think actually people would vote her and the stupid
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Speaker 8: thing she says into that office.
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Speaker 2: But here I want to play this again and then
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Speaker 2: let's discuss.
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Speaker 13: It before the math does not math. When you have
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Speaker 13: open borders, which the Democrats are probably.
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Speaker 2: Open borders, no open borders. And in fact, I bet
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Speaker 2: you feel confident about that.
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Speaker 13: If the Democrats say it's 2028 and AOC wins the presidency,
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Speaker 13: you do you think or Ossoff or whoever, Mark Kelly,
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Speaker 13: do you think that the border is going to remain shut?
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Speaker 13: Or do you think there's going to be a massive
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Speaker 13: wave of immigrants that go, oh, Democrat in power, we're
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Speaker 13: flooding the border again?
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Speaker 8: I do not believe that any serious Democrat running for.
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Speaker 2: I already got to stop right there because Cuomo is
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Speaker 2: now being a moron.
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Speaker 8: But I absolutely believe that if certain things happen, Democrats
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Speaker 8: would define the catalyst of those things. They would decide
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Speaker 8: that the cause that created the effect was opening the
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Speaker 8: border wide open. And one of the biggest ones, one
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Speaker 8: of the biggest things that will make Democrats believe They
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Speaker 8: need to return to the policy of the Biden administration
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Speaker 8: that was deeply unpopular with the American people. Is Texas
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Speaker 8: losing a Senate seat? If somehow, some way, the demographic
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Speaker 8: of this state has changed enough to where people vote
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Speaker 8: the insanity that is Tallarico into the Senate, I think
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Speaker 8: that emboldens Democrats, at least behind closed doors, to find
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Speaker 8: a better way to sell the thing that they inevitably
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Speaker 8: want to do. Because, of course, all they want to
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Speaker 8: do is win elections. That's their entire focus. And attempting
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Speaker 8: to do that this way seems to be working if, again,
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Speaker 8: the horrible thing happens that I don't believe will actually
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Speaker 8: happen and Tallarico wins. Now, Tallarico is anti-American. Every fiber
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Speaker 8: of his being seems to be that. And one of
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Speaker 8: the other things that's going viral recently is an unearthed
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Speaker 8: conversation with him and how much he hates voter I.D.,
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Speaker 8: something he's, of course, going to claim isn't true now.
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Speaker 8: But again, I'm just putting the pieces together for you
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Speaker 8: of a wide open border and a senator in Texas
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Speaker 8: who hates voter ID.
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Speaker 14: In that voter suppression bill, it's still an immoral, anti-American,
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Speaker 14: anti-democratic bill, one that I hate with every fiber of
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Speaker 14: my being. But I knew that my job as a
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Speaker 14: member of the minority is to do harm mitigation work.
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Speaker 14: And so by coming back, we were able to remove
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Speaker 14: some of the worst parts of the bill, the ban
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Speaker 14: on souls to the polls, the provisions that would make
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Speaker 14: it easier to overturn the election, taking some of these
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Speaker 14: federal penalties, these felony penalties, and bringing them down to misdemeanors,
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Speaker 14: requiring that these poll watchers, who I don't think should
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Speaker 14: be in the polling place at all, but if they're
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Speaker 14: going to be there, we were able to ensure that
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Speaker 14: they at least have mandated election code training. so that
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Speaker 14: they don't have an excuse of saying they didn't know
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Speaker 14: the election code.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is a guy that hates everything about upending
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Speaker 8: the system. He wants to change the way that Texas
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Speaker 8: and a lot of the other places in our country vote.
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Speaker 2: He wants that.
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Speaker 8: He wants any version of, if they can't cheat one way,
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Speaker 8: they'll cheat another way. And this is the absolute truth
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Speaker 8: to me. This is a core belief I have over
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Speaker 8: the last few years. President Trump's relentless discussion about rigged
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Speaker 8: elections has really, really made a lot of Democrats mad
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Speaker 8: because they desire to rig elections, not just because they
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Speaker 8: want to claim that it's not happening. And whether you
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Speaker 8: look at the small versions of this that happened in
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Speaker 8: New Jersey or anywhere else, and that's what they'll tell you, 6,000
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Speaker 8: people is small, but.
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Speaker 2: You do see reality.
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Speaker 8: You do see people that are gaming the system. And
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Speaker 8: in a lot of states, there's things that are legal
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Speaker 8: that really should not be legal. Ballot harvesting, for example,
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Speaker 8: is something that's legal. In a lot of places throughout
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Speaker 8: this country. And if you don't know what that is,
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Speaker 8: that's essentially one person showing up at, say, a retirement
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Speaker 8: home with a bunch of ballot slips, getting people to
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Speaker 8: fill them out and then mailing them all themselves. And
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Speaker 8: you can see the problem with that, especially if you're like,
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Speaker 8: I'll fill out most of it for you. Just write
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Speaker 8: your name at the top and all the places where
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Speaker 8: they could do that and all the different communities where
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Speaker 8: they could target that. And that's not just, say, on
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Speaker 8: a presidential election. That's that's literally anything. Those are elections
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Speaker 8: where a couple hundred votes determine the outcome every single
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Speaker 8: election season. So I just think it's really, really interesting
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Speaker 8: to pair those pieces together and to wonder what Democratic
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Speaker 8: power returning in our country, beside the DSA.
18:14
Speaker 2: I do want to.
18:15
Speaker 8: Do a DSA crazy person of the day, and I
18:19
Speaker 8: have an intro for that. We'll probably do that after
18:21
Speaker 8: the next break, where they just say the most insane
18:25
Speaker 8: stuff the stuff that seems to be most likely to
18:28
Speaker 8: break every fabric of what our society is.
18:32
Speaker 2: If you take away so.
18:34
Speaker 8: Many different aspects of how we govern this country, remove
18:38
Speaker 8: the Senate entirely, remove the House, all that stuff, you
18:40
Speaker 8: don't get a better system. You get no system. And
18:43
Speaker 8: no system, as we've been saying during the show, would
18:45
Speaker 8: be very bad. I want to fix the thing that
18:48
Speaker 8: we built. I don't want to destroy it completely. But nonetheless,
18:51
Speaker 8: as I say that, I think what's obviously also important
18:55
Speaker 8: in a discussion about any of these topics, is to
18:58
Speaker 8: look at what the other side would do, the establishment
19:01
Speaker 8: part of the other side would do, if they get
19:03
Speaker 8: power back. And I think my favorite example for that,
19:06
Speaker 8: by the way, if I'm just using a thing that
19:09
Speaker 8: we all got to witness and experience together, it is
19:12
Speaker 8: the way that gas prices spiked when Biden was in office.
19:15
Speaker 2: It is that recent history.
19:17
Speaker 8: And I'm sure there's a bunch of other examples I
19:19
Speaker 8: could also use if I go a little bit further
19:21
Speaker 8: back But I don't need to. That's as far back
19:24
Speaker 8: as I seem to need to go, because a lot
19:26
Speaker 8: of people believed, not as many people as I think
19:30
Speaker 8: claimed to have voted for, but a lot of the
19:32
Speaker 8: people who actually did vote for Biden seem to believe
19:34
Speaker 8: that he would do a better job with our economy
19:37
Speaker 8: because it was right at the tail end of the
19:40
Speaker 8: most harm that COVID did to our economy, not necessarily
19:43
Speaker 8: the end of the pandemic itself, but certainly the harm.
19:46
Speaker 2: The economy was incredible.
19:47
Speaker 8: And then the pandemic happened, and then the economy got
19:50
Speaker 8: worse and worse and worse. And then we put Biden
19:52
Speaker 8: in office. And what did happen? All of those same,
19:56
Speaker 8: the shades of what's going on now were happening before.
20:00
Speaker 8: A really good buddy of mine tells me all the
20:01
Speaker 8: time that history doesn't exactly repeat itself. It just rhymes
20:05
Speaker 8: a lot, which is obviously a very famous phrase. And
20:08
Speaker 8: I believe that to be true myself. I believe profoundly
20:12
Speaker 8: that that is the thing we see a lot of
20:15
Speaker 8: in the world. And so when I say that to you,
20:17
Speaker 8: when I talk about that, you know, within the context
20:20
Speaker 8: of this discussion, what I really mean is if we
20:24
Speaker 8: make the same mistake that we made in 2020, and
20:27
Speaker 8: I don't think as many people made that mistake again,
20:29
Speaker 8: I think that that was stolen. But if we make
20:32
Speaker 8: a similar version of a mistake, real or not, we
20:35
Speaker 8: will have the same result, a terrible result. And if
20:38
Speaker 8: you keep doing the same thing over and over again
20:40
Speaker 8: and expecting a different result, that is the definition of insanity,
20:44
Speaker 8: as you and I both know. But anyway, yes, in
20:46
Speaker 8: just a little bit, we'll play the craziest DSA candidate
20:50
Speaker 8: of the day. Because I just love the fact that
20:53
Speaker 8: there are so many people out there just saying the
20:54
Speaker 8: most ridiculous and insane stuff, and that most of the
20:58
Speaker 8: Democratic Party, and I don't mean this as far as
21:01
Speaker 8: the voters go, I actually mean this as far as
21:03
Speaker 8: the people in power go, They want to just pretend
21:05
Speaker 8: it's not happening. I see that a lot. There's a
21:08
Speaker 8: version of Abdul-Aziz. Do you believe this? And then he says, yes,
21:12
Speaker 8: I believe that that should be happening. And it's something crazy.
21:15
Speaker 8: And then they ask some other Democrat about it. He's like, well,
21:18
Speaker 8: we'll figure that out later. I will get to that
21:20
Speaker 8: when that point matters most. The Green New Deal is
21:23
Speaker 8: probably one of them.
21:24
Speaker 6: You know what?
21:24
Speaker 2: I'll play this real quick because we still have a
21:26
Speaker 2: couple of minutes. I'll play El-Said.
21:28
Speaker 8: This is not the DSA crazy of the day.
21:31
Speaker 2: That's going to be something else. But I do like this, too.
21:33
Speaker 3: Actually, the internal combustion engine cars, so much more expensive.
21:37
Speaker 11: You want to get rid of the internal combustion engines?
21:42
Speaker 8: No, I don't.
21:42
Speaker 15: Who told you that?
21:43
Speaker 8: That's what the Green New Deal says.
21:44
Speaker 12: My dad came to America to design internal combustion engines.
21:46
Speaker 1: No, that's not what the Green.
21:47
Speaker 11: New Deal says.
21:48
Speaker 16: The Green New Deal says phase out fossil fuels.
21:49
Speaker 8: It doesn't.
21:49
Speaker 2: It says that we can build renewable energy opportunities.
21:51
Speaker 11: Look, I'm not going to defend the Green New Deal.
21:53
Speaker 3: What I'm telling you, though.
21:53
Speaker 11: Is that we could make a whole lot more amazing
21:55
Speaker 11: jobs if we actually invested in renewable energy.
21:56
Speaker 4: You're on the record as backing the.
21:57
Speaker 17: Green New Deal, Abdul.
22:01
Speaker 12: Are you opposed to the idea that we could reduce
22:03
Speaker 12: energy costs and create jobs in Michigan?
22:05
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
22:06
Speaker 15: But I don't want windmills in Lake Michigan.
22:09
Speaker 1: So you are absolutely.
22:10
Speaker 8: I love everything about that, because I love when Abdul
22:14
Speaker 8: Al-Said is saying, I'm not for the Green New Deal.
22:16
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
22:17
Speaker 8: And then Jesse Waters of Fox News responds by saying,
22:21
Speaker 8: you're on the record in support of it. It's part
22:23
Speaker 8: of your campaign promise is that you want to get
22:25
Speaker 8: back to things like the Green New Deal. How do
22:27
Speaker 8: you just pretend that's not true? How do you say
22:30
Speaker 8: out loud, oh, I'm totally for the regular type of
22:33
Speaker 8: vehicle that Americans have shown we desperately want and not
22:36
Speaker 8: the electric vehicles we don't want?
22:38
Speaker 2: How do you say that?
22:39
Speaker 8: And then a couple seconds later go, yeah, but by
22:41
Speaker 8: the way, I also would really love this Green New
22:43
Speaker 8: Deal to take off this time around.
22:46
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25:02
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25:21
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25:46
Speaker 8: This is KSEV Morning. My name is Craig Collins. Wayne
25:50
Speaker 8: Del Cefino is on special assignment today. Lots and lots
25:53
Speaker 8: of stuff to talk about, as I always say on
25:55
Speaker 8: the show. I want to do something that we'll probably
25:58
Speaker 8: do every day on this show. We're going to call
26:01
Speaker 8: it the DSA Crazy of the Day. And it might
26:05
Speaker 8: be something that they said recently. There's so many good
26:07
Speaker 8: ones that it might, in fact, also sometimes be something
26:10
Speaker 8: that they said a while ago. And I think I
26:13
Speaker 8: have to because this is the first day that we're
26:16
Speaker 8: going to do this thing, and hopefully we do it
26:18
Speaker 8: a lot. I think I have to go back to
26:19
Speaker 8: one of the most tried-and-true, most ridiculous things that the
26:23
Speaker 8: DSA ever said, because they do say an insane amount
26:26
Speaker 8: of crazy stuff.
26:27
Speaker 2: And I know you know that. I know I know that.
26:30
Speaker 8: I wish that more people on the side that doesn't
26:34
Speaker 8: seem to be aware of this actually would admit that
26:36
Speaker 8: they're saying insane things, because there's just so much out
26:40
Speaker 8: there that's absolutely broken and ridiculous. And so let's do
26:44
Speaker 8: the intro for it. Let's make sure this isn't playing
26:48
Speaker 8: anywhere that it's supposed to not be playing. And then
26:50
Speaker 8: we'll do, and as I said, and you can even
26:53
Speaker 8: actually go ahead and nominate stuff for me. That might
26:55
Speaker 8: be a fun way to let the audience participate in this.
26:58
Speaker 8: Craig at KSEVradio.com. I'll give out my email again, Craig
27:03
Speaker 8: at KSEVradio.com. If you want to send me a crazy
27:07
Speaker 8: thing that someone from the DSA said, it doesn't have
27:09
Speaker 8: to just be a politician or a political candidate. I'm
27:12
Speaker 8: also willing to listen to the leadership during this discussion.
27:15
Speaker 8: But anything, if you want to send me some sort
27:17
Speaker 8: of crazy thing, we will try to do at least
27:20
Speaker 8: one of these every day. And I guess the point
27:22
Speaker 8: to stop stalling and actually get it done.
27:25
Speaker 2: But the point of this.
27:26
Speaker 8: Is to demonstrate to you how crazy they actually are.
27:30
Speaker 8: But here, this is the intro for the second.
27:32
Speaker 4: It's time for the DSA Take of the Day. Every day,
27:35
Speaker 4: the Democratic Socialists of America give us something to think about.
27:39
Speaker 14: That's a bunch of malarkey.
27:40
Speaker 4: And by think about, we mean something that makes you
27:43
Speaker 4: stare blankly into the distance and wonder, how did we
27:46
Speaker 4: get here?
27:47
Speaker 18: I think that this is.
27:50
Speaker 6: Such a, you know, I think that this is a... Today, Junior!
27:57
Speaker 4: It's the DSA Take of the Day on KSEV AM 700,
28:01
Speaker 4: The Voice of Texas.
28:03
Speaker 16: Ladies and gentlemen, I give you your morons.
28:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this one's actually pretty fun.
28:10
Speaker 8: It's actually quite short, but I think that it's perfectly
28:14
Speaker 8: good for exactly what the DSA idiots of the day say.
28:17
Speaker 2: All the time.
28:17
Speaker 8: So I'm going to play it multiple times because, again,
28:19
Speaker 8: it's only about two seconds long.
28:21
Speaker 2: Here we go.
28:21
Speaker 6: I mean, our goal is liberation. Our goal is communism.
28:24
Speaker 2: What's that?
28:24
Speaker 6: Our goal is liberation. Our goal is communism.
28:27
Speaker 8: Yeah, he literally says our goal is liberation. Our goal
28:30
Speaker 8: is communism. That is one of the leaders of the DSA,
28:32
Speaker 8: David Jenkins, who says it. I did this in an
28:34
Speaker 8: interview a little while back. And they are unapologetic about
28:39
Speaker 8: this belief. Actually, I do have another DSA clip from
28:42
Speaker 8: just a couple of days ago. And it's it's I
28:45
Speaker 8: think the blaze and some people put this up. It's
28:48
Speaker 8: essentially just a super clip of a bunch of the
28:51
Speaker 8: crazy things they said during a one off phone call.
28:54
Speaker 8: DSA activists, streamers, politicians, all kinds of people pop up
28:58
Speaker 8: on this. And one of the biggest claims is that
29:01
Speaker 8: they're going to be violent in their overthrow of, they say,
29:04
Speaker 8: the Democratic Party. But they really mean the totality of government. They,
29:07
Speaker 8: of course, hate Republicans even more. I want to play
29:11
Speaker 8: all this, too.
29:11
Speaker 1: Here we go.
29:12
Speaker 19: We have seen that the Democratic Party establishment that we
29:14
Speaker 19: have has to be ripped out. We can actually start
29:18
Speaker 19: to grab hold of the ship of state. and steer
29:21
Speaker 19: it in our direction, but it's going to be a
29:24
Speaker 19: violent process.
29:25
Speaker 6: Our country needs to change, and this Democratic Party needs
29:29
Speaker 6: to change. I was more than glad to go on
29:31
Speaker 6: Hassan's stream. We need, as Democrats, we need to go
29:36
Speaker 6: into these spaces.
29:38
Speaker 12: Israel has a plan of creating a greater Israel in
29:40
Speaker 12: the Middle East.
29:41
Speaker 19: And Eretz Israel.
29:42
Speaker 20: Would require Israel to expand, quintuple its size by eating
29:47
Speaker 20: up half of Lebanon.
29:49
Speaker 2: Parts of Iraq, parts of Egypt, most of Jordan, parts
29:53
Speaker 2: of Iran.
29:54
Speaker 21: It's not an accident that the same people that will
29:57
Speaker 21: take the AIPAC money take all the other money, too.
29:59
Speaker 21: You know, where they're messaging each other like, oh, there's
30:02
Speaker 21: a war over here. Won't that be profitable for us?
30:04
Speaker 21: What if we started some instability over there?
30:07
Speaker 6: AIPAC doesn't care about democracy. AIPAC cares about what AIPAC
30:10
Speaker 6: cares about, which is the corporate interests, the billionaire class,
30:13
Speaker 6: and perpetuating this U.S. colony in the Middle East that
30:17
Speaker 6: is only able to exist with our taxpayer support.
30:20
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:20
Speaker 2: So that's insane. And I'll tell you exactly why some
30:23
Speaker 2: of the things there.
30:24
Speaker 8: And there's probably stuff that they're saying that you sort
30:26
Speaker 8: of kind of agree with, which is the craziest part
30:29
Speaker 8: about it. Like, I do think the Democratic Party was
30:31
Speaker 8: already flawed and broken and needs to be different and better.
30:34
Speaker 8: But the way you get there is not making it worse.
30:37
Speaker 8: Democratic socialists want to make it far worse than it
30:40
Speaker 8: actually is. But my two takes from that, the thing
30:43
Speaker 8: that they're playing there, the first one or the rhetoric
30:47
Speaker 8: that they're just all spitting out again and again and again.
30:50
Speaker 8: The first one of my two beliefs on that is
30:52
Speaker 8: that part of it is designed to sound attractive to
30:55
Speaker 8: a conservative, especially someone who's not happy with what's currently
30:59
Speaker 8: going on, because when you hear the complaint, several of
31:02
Speaker 8: the complaints themselves can land, just not the solution, which
31:06
Speaker 8: is something I've been pointing out the entire show today.
31:09
Speaker 8: And then the other one, they're actually complaining about AIPAC,
31:12
Speaker 8: American Israel Public Affairs Committee, and the things that they do.
31:17
Speaker 8: And I think Wayne was talking about this with me
31:18
Speaker 8: earlier this week. They really lean in to vilifying anything
31:23
Speaker 8: and everything that is Israel, the place, and the politicians
31:27
Speaker 8: in charge.
31:27
Speaker 2: And you're allowed to criticize anybody. I know that, and
31:32
Speaker 2: you know that.
31:32
Speaker 8: There's no reason to even say it, but yet I do,
31:34
Speaker 8: because sometimes I think people think that if you're in
31:38
Speaker 8: support of what's happening in Iran, that somehow that means
31:41
Speaker 8: that you're in support of every decision that Israel's government makes.
31:45
Speaker 8: And if you weren't, you're somehow, you know, anti-Semitic.
31:48
Speaker 2: That's not true.
31:49
Speaker 8: Objecting to politicians themselves or political leaders anywhere in the
31:53
Speaker 8: world is devoid of of race.
31:57
Speaker 2: At least it should be. And hopefully it is. It's
31:59
Speaker 2: when you go beyond that.
32:00
Speaker 8: It's when you go further than just these individuals in
32:03
Speaker 8: charge and you say everybody that lives a certain place
32:06
Speaker 8: is evil.
32:06
Speaker 2: Well, then, darn it. We have a very different problem.
32:09
Speaker 8: But this is what I think is really intriguing to me,
32:12
Speaker 8: is that the far right right now agrees with the
32:16
Speaker 8: far left. as far as one of the bad guys,
32:19
Speaker 8: who the bad guy is and what we do about it.
32:21
Speaker 8: And a lot of people on both sides, and I've
32:24
Speaker 8: said this many times, also very much believe that the
32:27
Speaker 8: government itself is failing you.
32:29
Speaker 1: And they are.
32:30
Speaker 2: I'm not for big government.
32:32
Speaker 8: I'm not for enhancing the ways in which terrible things
32:34
Speaker 8: are happening on a daily basis. And I say that
32:39
Speaker 8: absolutely authentically meaning it because of the way in which
32:42
Speaker 8: we're governed by the people in charge.
32:44
Speaker 2: It's not the design of the system.
32:46
Speaker 8: I want the system to come back to the way
32:48
Speaker 8: it was supposed to be, the checks and balances working,
32:50
Speaker 8: the powers that be deciding that they can be civil
32:54
Speaker 8: in their disagreements with each other.
32:55
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day, I've said this before,
32:58
Speaker 2: I'll say it again.
32:59
Speaker 8: At the end of the day, politicians used to like
33:02
Speaker 8: go out and have a beer together on both sides.
33:05
Speaker 8: And that's very gone now. They, in fact, call each
33:07
Speaker 8: other the enemy and the devil and horrible people. And
33:10
Speaker 8: I do believe the policies on the left are akin to,
33:13
Speaker 8: you know, Marxism and Nazis and all the things that
33:16
Speaker 8: people casually throw around about conservatives. But I do believe
33:21
Speaker 8: that we could get back to a place, and this
33:22
Speaker 8: is the most naive thing I'll say on the show,
33:24
Speaker 8: and a lot of people tell me I'm wrong, but
33:26
Speaker 8: I don't care. I do believe we can get back
33:28
Speaker 8: to a place where that exists again, where both sides
33:31
Speaker 8: are more rational. The thing that we have to do,
33:35
Speaker 8: and I think this is something that Chris Salcedo actually,
33:37
Speaker 8: in his own way, supported a lot while he was
33:40
Speaker 8: for 14 years doing this radio show, we have to
33:43
Speaker 8: demand it. of the people that we put into positions
33:45
Speaker 8: of power on either side. We have to demand that
33:48
Speaker 8: they act the way that the founding fathers assumed they'd act.
33:51
Speaker 8: And that would be in our interest. They put America first.
33:56
Speaker 8: They put their constituents first. And they stop going to
33:58
Speaker 8: Washington and behaving as people who can do whatever they
34:01
Speaker 8: want to benefit them.
34:03
Speaker 2: So we have to fire a lot of people.
34:05
Speaker 10: We do.
34:06
Speaker 2: But we do have the power to do that.
34:07
Speaker 8: We have to put people in positions of power who
34:10
Speaker 8: actually have the track record and the mindset to do
34:14
Speaker 8: what's best for us, which is something that we don't
34:17
Speaker 8: see enough of. But that doesn't mean you obliterate the
34:20
Speaker 8: entirety of a system. I just don't think that that's
34:23
Speaker 8: the right approach. And I don't have any reason to
34:26
Speaker 8: believe it is. And most of the people I think
34:28
Speaker 8: listening to this show feel the same way, because if
34:32
Speaker 8: you get to that point, then you do actually have
34:34
Speaker 8: to have the version of a revolution that the DSA
34:36
Speaker 8: members are talking about. And the big takeaway from that audio,
34:39
Speaker 8: and I can play it again because it's just at
34:40
Speaker 8: the beginning, is how they say, and these are Democratic
34:44
Speaker 8: Socialists of America who want Democrats to move even further
34:47
Speaker 8: to the left here in the country, the people who vote,
34:50
Speaker 8: the people who are in charge, the whole thing. They
34:53
Speaker 8: essentially want communism, as I played the other clip for you.
34:56
Speaker 8: But they're saying that they might do this in a
34:58
Speaker 8: violent way, which I only laugh about because I can't
35:01
Speaker 8: picture the Democratic Socialists that I know actually successfully being violent.
35:06
Speaker 8: I just can't see that as a thing.
35:07
Speaker 19: But here we have seen that the Democratic Party establishment
35:10
Speaker 19: that we have has to be ripped out. We can
35:12
Speaker 19: actually start to grab hold of the ship of state
35:16
Speaker 19: and steer it in our direction. But it's going to
35:18
Speaker 19: be a violent process.
35:21
Speaker 2: It's going to be incredibly violent. No big deal. Totally
35:23
Speaker 2: fine here.
35:24
Speaker 8: The way that they move us further to the left, which,
35:26
Speaker 8: by the way, historically accurate. That is how that happens,
35:29
Speaker 8: how communism eventually takes over in a place. And then
35:32
Speaker 8: horrible things happen when the power is even further reduced.
35:36
Speaker 8: to a small subset of individuals who are inherently corrupt.
35:40
Speaker 8: I see that Bart's called in. I'll get Bart on
35:42
Speaker 8: the air. Bart, what do you want to talk about?
35:46
Speaker 16: Yeah, when you're talking about the founding fathers, right from
35:48
Speaker 16: the start, George Washington warned about the political parties that
35:53
Speaker 16: only want.
35:53
Speaker 1: To be in power.
35:55
Speaker 16: And right now we're seeing that GSA is basically, they
35:58
Speaker 16: don't make no pretense of doing what's best for our government.
36:02
Speaker 16: They're just seeking to grab power.
36:04
Speaker 17: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Now you're referencing his.
36:06
Speaker 8: 1796 farewell address where the president of the United States,
36:10
Speaker 8: the first one, George Washington, said that he was afraid
36:12
Speaker 8: of the people and the dangers of political power that
36:15
Speaker 8: he was already sensing within the first few years of
36:19
Speaker 8: this country behaving the way that it's supposed to behave.
36:21
Speaker 8: And I think that's a profoundly good speech and a
36:24
Speaker 8: thing to reference, Bart, because we've lost our way there.
36:28
Speaker 8: We don't have anyone in Washington fighting for the belief
36:32
Speaker 8: system that this country was founded on the way that
36:34
Speaker 8: people like the founding fathers did, we need to send
36:37
Speaker 8: more of those guys on both sides of the political
36:39
Speaker 8: aisle to D.C.
36:41
Speaker 2: To fight that fight.
36:43
Speaker 16: I was listening to Constantine Chryson, the guy that does
36:46
Speaker 16: the trigonometry, and he was talking about how the thing
36:49
Speaker 16: with socialism is it's a great ideology, but it's not realistic,
36:54
Speaker 16: and they have no practical plan. They just use the
36:56
Speaker 16: DSA to gain power, and.
36:58
Speaker 1: That's all this is about.
36:59
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
37:00
Speaker 8: There's a very small amount of people, a very few,
37:03
Speaker 8: that are smart enough to know that if they trick
37:06
Speaker 8: all the idiots to say something— that they then get power,
37:09
Speaker 8: and once they hand all the power to these few people,
37:12
Speaker 8: they do terrible, horrible things with it. Anything else you
37:15
Speaker 8: want to talk about, Bart?
37:17
Speaker 16: I really like your DSA crazy of the day. I
37:19
Speaker 16: don't know if you're going to be able to find
37:20
Speaker 16: enough statements to do that every day.
37:22
Speaker 1: I can.
37:23
Speaker 2: It's easy, man.
37:23
Speaker 8: It'll be very easy. But thank you very much, man.
37:25
Speaker 8: Thank you for calling in, as always. Talk to Bart later.
37:29
Speaker 8: We've got to take another break. A lot coming up
37:31
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37:33
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37:37
Speaker 8: He had told me he might, but he is traveling.
37:39
Speaker 8: So Wayne Dolcefito will probably be back either toward the
37:42
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37:45
Speaker 8: when he's here, is just more fun. So we definitely
37:47
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37:48
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37:49
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Speaker 8: My name is Craig Collins, Wayne Del Cefino on Special
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Speaker 8: Assignment today. I want to play a piece of audio
39:56
Speaker 8: about a court decision. Meta and 29 states have reached
40:01
Speaker 8: a settlement agreement mid-trial on a court case in Oakland
40:05
Speaker 8: that was looking into whether Facebook, Instagram, essentially social media,
40:09
Speaker 8: but one of the biggest players in it, was created
40:12
Speaker 8: intentionally to addict children to these platforms, which protecting children
40:18
Speaker 8: from the scary people who want to dick them to
40:20
Speaker 8: certain things, even social media. This is all inherently good.
40:23
Speaker 8: So I do want to play this. And I'm a
40:26
Speaker 8: little bit disappointed, to be candid with you. I'm not
40:29
Speaker 8: disappointed that there's going to be a bunch of money
40:31
Speaker 8: sent a certain direction. I'm disappointed that the entirety of
40:34
Speaker 8: this trial isn't going to play out because I wanted more,
40:37
Speaker 8: more information, more discovery, more conversation about it, and an
40:41
Speaker 8: inevitable decision that hopefully would have harmed the social media
40:45
Speaker 8: companies even larger. I say this as I'm on Facebook today,
40:50
Speaker 8: mostly because Wayne said that his following there is pretty
40:53
Speaker 8: big and we were going to do it. But by
40:54
Speaker 8: and large, I probably won't, if I'm broadcasting the show alone,
40:58
Speaker 8: be on that platform. And part of the reason is
41:00
Speaker 8: this desire to criticize them and then to not feel
41:03
Speaker 8: like a hypocrite in the process.
41:04
Speaker 2: But here we go.
41:05
Speaker 8: This is a Fox News alert about a decision where millions, actually,
41:10
Speaker 8: excuse me, billions of dollars, I think, will end up
41:13
Speaker 8: being sent because of Meta's likelihood desire to addict children
41:19
Speaker 8: to their social media platform.
41:20
Speaker 20: Just moments ago, an update on Meta's landmark trial. States
41:24
Speaker 20: that filed the lawsuit and Meta agreeing to settle claims
41:28
Speaker 20: that the company's social media platforms harmed children. This is
41:32
Speaker 20: breaking news and it could mean a lot of different things.
41:34
Speaker 20: Jonathan Turley, thankfully, is joining us now. Jonathan, what did
41:38
Speaker 20: you think when you first.
41:38
Speaker 15: Heard the news?
41:40
Speaker 22: Well, this is seismic. It's going to be something of
41:43
Speaker 22: a dinner gong for both states and plaintiff attorneys. And
41:47
Speaker 22: I think that Meta knows that. But in many ways
41:51
Speaker 22: for the company, this is still chump change. I mean,
41:53
Speaker 22: this is a company that makes a huge amount of money.
41:57
Speaker 22: And when you reach a settlement like this, we've seen,
42:01
Speaker 22: for example, in the tobacco settlement, that these companies actually
42:04
Speaker 22: don't end up losing money because of the benefits in
42:08
Speaker 22: the market in resolving litigation. Their stock tends to go
42:11
Speaker 22: up and they're able to cover these losses. So this
42:16
Speaker 22: is a calculated move by Meta, which has been saying
42:20
Speaker 22: it's been trying to reform these these apps to try
42:25
Speaker 22: to create these new barriers for children. And I think
42:30
Speaker 22: that they view this as a better way to go.
42:32
Speaker 20: Can I jump in real quick, Jonathan, because there was
42:34
Speaker 20: one other thing. So it's 16.6 billion dollars.
42:37
Speaker 17: Yes.
42:37
Speaker 20: But it also requires meta. to create these additional tools
42:42
Speaker 20: for parents and guardians to help protect their children online.
42:46
Speaker 20: I don't have exact details. We had the Attorney General
42:48
Speaker 20: of Kentucky, I believe.
42:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, here, I'm going to jump in.
42:51
Speaker 8: I do think that inevitably that's the actual solution. I
42:54
Speaker 8: don't necessarily think the government in and of itself can
42:57
Speaker 8: really do enough here, even with lawsuits and other things
43:01
Speaker 8: that come forward.
43:01
Speaker 2: It's still going to be parents.
43:03
Speaker 8: At the end of the day, whatever Facebook creates, whatever
43:06
Speaker 8: meta and Instagram and any of those properties, TikTok, whoever
43:10
Speaker 8: they are, Whatever they do to try to, say, protect children,
43:14
Speaker 8: it'll never be as strong or as good as you,
43:16
Speaker 8: the parent, who stands there and says, no more phone
43:19
Speaker 8: and takes it away. I know more of this and
43:21
Speaker 8: takes it away. And honestly, part of the reason to
43:24
Speaker 8: have this discussion, even at the end of the show,
43:27
Speaker 8: to me, is to demonstrate how much worse and not
43:31
Speaker 8: better things will get if we don't put the right
43:34
Speaker 8: locks on this system. There's so many people I know
43:36
Speaker 8: now who worry about their kids and their kids' obsession
43:39
Speaker 8: with with social media likes. Like they have a son
43:43
Speaker 8: or a daughter who might even have some friends and
43:45
Speaker 8: be what all of us would consider like a normal kid,
43:48
Speaker 8: having a normal kid life that's obsessed with being closer
43:52
Speaker 8: to an influencer when it comes to their social media attention.
43:55
Speaker 8: And if they don't have it, they're depressed and sad
43:57
Speaker 8: and think they're a loser. And this is a person
44:00
Speaker 8: that no one would describe as anything other than a
44:03
Speaker 8: normal kid with a normal set of friends who's overly
44:06
Speaker 8: focused on if they got 50 or 60 likes or
44:08
Speaker 8: whatever it would be, for a kid on social media,
44:11
Speaker 8: which is horrible because then you lean further into the
44:14
Speaker 8: rabbit hole of where kids might get additional interaction on
44:17
Speaker 8: the internet from strangers and how little you or I
44:21
Speaker 8: or anyone, uh, would want that to happen. I see
44:24
Speaker 8: that George has called in and Tombaugh, uh, he wants
44:26
Speaker 8: to say something about this. Uh, George, what do you
44:28
Speaker 8: want to say?
44:29
Speaker 1: No, actually, um, you know, if somebody who's a couple
44:33
Speaker 1: of cans short of a six pack verified, um, I
44:36
Speaker 1: can tell you the following that, um, it's not just
44:40
Speaker 1: a problem with children. It's a problem with adults as well.
44:45
Speaker 1: And the impact it's having on our society is, it's incalculable.
44:51
Speaker 1: I mean, I refer to it as sudden jihad syndrome,
44:54
Speaker 1: where people are joining these groups that they have no
44:58
Speaker 1: possible connection with, but because they feel through online social
45:03
Speaker 1: media and things like that, that they're suddenly part of,
45:06
Speaker 1: insert whatever the cause is here, that they're doing very
45:12
Speaker 1: radical things. You'll find that most of these horrific events
45:16
Speaker 1: that have occurred in the previous decade are all tied
45:20
Speaker 1: to somehow this person got online and then was energized, recruited,
45:29
Speaker 1: or brainwashed I mean, I'm very careful about my social
45:35
Speaker 1: media and what I say or do. And I've got
45:39
Speaker 1: a MetaQuest, for example. It's one of my go-to.
45:45
Speaker 16: Things.
45:47
Speaker 1: But I can't play roughly 75% of the games because
45:52
Speaker 1: the children that go on to some of these games Because,
45:56
Speaker 1: you know, you would think there was stuff that was
45:57
Speaker 1: playing that children wouldn't be playing on.
45:59
Speaker 7: Sure.
46:00
Speaker 1: They're so hostile, it's outrageous.
46:03
Speaker 8: So if anybody doesn't know, George, the MetaQuest is the
46:07
Speaker 8: VR headset that Meta made.
46:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, the VR headset, yes. So I just wanted to
46:11
Speaker 2: tell people that.
46:13
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you. I've got actually the MetaQuest VR headset
46:18
Speaker 1: 2 and the number 3.
46:19
Speaker 2: Okay, wow.
46:21
Speaker 1: So the latest.
46:23
Speaker 8: So I want to say something, though, to what you said,
46:26
Speaker 8: because I absolutely agree with you that it is it
46:28
Speaker 8: is not just kids who are being profoundly harmed by
46:31
Speaker 8: social media.
46:31
Speaker 2: A lot of us are being harmed by social media.
46:33
Speaker 8: But there is a point where, you know, the adults
46:36
Speaker 8: among us just have to be adults and choose what
46:39
Speaker 8: to do with it. My wife doesn't have any social media.
46:41
Speaker 8: And this is a decision she made years ago. And
46:44
Speaker 8: it wasn't because of me.
46:45
Speaker 2: I do radio. I have social media. And sometimes people
46:48
Speaker 2: say crazy stuff to me.
46:50
Speaker 8: Because of what I do for a living, especially when
46:52
Speaker 8: I fill in on a national show, I get some
46:54
Speaker 8: crazies out there. But she really just didn't want to
46:56
Speaker 8: be on it. She didn't want to look at her
46:59
Speaker 8: friend differently if she thought that her friend was celebrating
47:03
Speaker 8: something that made her feel jealous. She realized all these emotions,
47:06
Speaker 8: these desires to even have people interact with her posts
47:10
Speaker 8: and stuff were just bad for her mental health.
47:13
Speaker 2: So I'm really proud of my wife. She was like,
47:14
Speaker 2: I'm done. I'm out.
47:15
Speaker 8: And I would have wanted to be, too. I just
47:18
Speaker 8: for this job really can't be. You really got to
47:20
Speaker 8: be on it. But I agree with you that I
47:22
Speaker 8: think it is harming a lot of us. But there
47:24
Speaker 8: has to be a way to use it without focusing
47:28
Speaker 8: as much on it as it's designed for us to
47:30
Speaker 8: focus on. What I'm essentially saying is because I like alcohol,
47:34
Speaker 8: there's got to be a way to responsibly drink in
47:38
Speaker 8: the sense of responsibly going on social media and not
47:41
Speaker 8: allowing it to take over your life. which would be
47:44
Speaker 8: a lot of fighting the things it's designed to do.
47:46
Speaker 8: But there's still things I like about it. There's still
47:49
Speaker 8: aspects of it, communicating with someone that I haven't seen
47:52
Speaker 8: in years that I probably wouldn't pick up the phone
47:55
Speaker 8: and call, even though.
47:56
Speaker 2: Maybe I should do that.
47:57
Speaker 8: Like there's still benefits. They're just outweighed significantly now by
48:02
Speaker 8: the problems.
48:05
Speaker 1: That's true. And again, it's a matter of educating people on,
48:11
Speaker 1: not necessarily on proper uses, But, you know, drink responsibly.
48:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:16
Speaker 1: You know, you don't drink and drive.
48:18
Speaker 17: Right.
48:19
Speaker 1: You know, and, but some of, I'll tell you, some
48:22
Speaker 1: of the content on the VR thing, for example, think
48:27
Speaker 1: about this guy in Pennsylvania that took a shot at
48:30
Speaker 1: the president. I'm willing to bet that if they go
48:33
Speaker 1: back to his home computer, right, that he has got
48:36
Speaker 1: nothing but these viral, like, population of one games where,
48:42
Speaker 1: you know, they're going around, you know, unlimited killing people
48:46
Speaker 1: and people don't realize there is no reset button on
48:49
Speaker 1: your actual life. When you take a life, you've taken
48:52
Speaker 1: a life. There's no reset button. So it's crazy. Hey,
48:55
Speaker 1: thanks for letting me air my opinion. Sure.
48:58
Speaker 8: No, thank you so much for the call. Please call again.
48:59
Speaker 8: George and Tombaugh, thank you for calling in. And I
49:02
Speaker 8: agree with you. And actually, you know what's funny about
49:04
Speaker 8: what he said? I don't know if funny is the
49:06
Speaker 8: right word, but I use that word a lot. I
49:08
Speaker 8: think I was like, I was a sophomore, maybe, in
49:13
Speaker 8: high school, and we were assigned some topic in an
49:15
Speaker 8: English class, and I wrote a paper about violence and
49:19
Speaker 8: how you're discriminated. to it via video games. And I
49:22
Speaker 8: love video games. I'm a huge video game guy. I
49:25
Speaker 8: love the old school stuff. I'm not a huge fan
49:28
Speaker 8: of the new things because they're too hard. I like
49:30
Speaker 8: the Sega Genesis that I grew up on. But I
49:33
Speaker 8: was realizing even then, and I think it was like
49:35
Speaker 8: the James Bond video games or something, how dark it
49:38
Speaker 8: could get. And like there was this one Goldeneye, this
49:41
Speaker 8: N64 video game that I'm probably very much losing some
49:45
Speaker 8: of this audience and talking about because I grew up
49:48
Speaker 8: playing it. And it's definitely probably not a thing.
49:50
Speaker 2: Who knows? Maybe a lot of you played it.
49:52
Speaker 8: But I had a buddy who would like purposefully shoot
49:54
Speaker 8: people in the head and like run up and shoot
49:57
Speaker 8: them in the head more. And like he thought it
49:59
Speaker 8: was funny. And most of us would laugh with him
50:01
Speaker 8: at the weird stuff he was doing. But part of
50:03
Speaker 8: me was also like, there's there's might be a problem there.
50:06
Speaker 8: There might be an issue with that version of wanting
50:08
Speaker 8: to see that sort of thing as often as he did,
50:11
Speaker 8: not just to be good at the game, but to
50:13
Speaker 8: do it for some other reason. And so, yeah, I
50:16
Speaker 8: agree with George that there are people out there, especially
50:18
Speaker 8: who can turn to the technology that exists now, the
50:21
Speaker 8: VR headsets that exist now and get in to certain
50:24
Speaker 8: places where they're playing certain video games and then wind
50:27
Speaker 8: up meeting other deranged people in those places and getting
50:32
Speaker 8: radicalized that way. I believe all that is true. And so, yes,
50:36
Speaker 8: I think that freedom needs to exist. You have to
50:38
Speaker 8: be able to make your own decisions. I don't want
50:41
Speaker 8: the government to make them for me. I want society
50:44
Speaker 8: as a whole and adults as a whole to be
50:45
Speaker 8: warned more. Maybe the warning label stuff. We just need
50:48
Speaker 8: more of that, more of a discussion and honest reaction
50:51
Speaker 8: to the challenges that come with any of this kind
50:54
Speaker 8: of technology that exists in our society, but also protecting kids.
50:59
Speaker 8: I like the most valuable part of that discussion to me.
51:02
Speaker 8: And if we equate it to alcohol the way that
51:04
Speaker 8: both George and I were, there's a legal drinking age
51:07
Speaker 8: and there's a legal drinking age for a reason. And
51:09
Speaker 8: do we have to do we have to get to
51:11
Speaker 8: a point where there is like there have been other places,
51:14
Speaker 8: legal ages for what you can and can't have as
51:17
Speaker 8: far as the Internet goes?
51:18
Speaker 2: I don't know.
51:19
Speaker 8: I don't even know how you'd actually successfully, you know,
51:22
Speaker 8: do that. I don't think you're going to throw a
51:24
Speaker 8: kid in the hoose gal for having a Facebook page.
51:27
Speaker 8: But nonetheless, I think it comes down to parents. The
51:29
Speaker 8: biggest part of this discussion is to tell the parents,
51:32
Speaker 8: protect your kids because they're in a lot of danger
51:35
Speaker 8: online every single day in ways that they don't want
51:38
Speaker 8: you to know about and they want to pretend aren't
51:40
Speaker 8: happening because the Facebook platforms of the world have addicted
51:43
Speaker 8: them to social media itself. All right, that's it. That's
51:46
Speaker 8: the whole show. We'll see you again tomorrow. Heck of
51:48
Speaker 8: a way to end it. Thank you to everybody who
51:49
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51:53
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