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- 0:02Hey there, you're listening to the Generation's Church podcast. We pray that the
- 0:06word of God today will challenge, change and channel you into your God given
- 0:09destiny. Now let's get started the topic of my servant. It's called actual,
- 0:16it's called a living funeral. I call it living and living well.
- 0:20So to do that. To do that, I would like to request help
- 0:23from all of you in a role here, and I'm going to restructure the
- 0:27whole stage a little bit. As I told you, discerment will be a
- 0:30little bit different from the normal. I will need more more help. I
- 0:33will like you to put this picture somewhere Pacifictor why do you do a living
- 0:40funeral? What is a living funeral? What's interesting is that when I turn
- 0:43fifty, I want to do my living funeral, and there's no church that
- 0:46will allow me to bring my coffin in except every nation, Puccho. So
- 0:51pass the teams say, yeah, why not? You just do your living
- 0:53funeral here. So I did the living funeral, which I'm going to go
- 0:56through later, but I'm not going to replicate. I can't aplicate the living
- 1:00funeral here, but I would give you the context of what I did.
- 1:03So that was two zero one seven, and on the same stage was also
- 1:07the place where I have to say goodbye to my good friend past the team.
- 1:11It's very surreal because at my living funeral he gave the eulogy. At
- 1:17his real funeral, I gave the eulogy. So if you think about it,
- 1:22both of us attended each other's funeral, and in the sense it's meaningful.
- 1:30That's what Joel say. Just now, will the grief? How do
- 1:34you manage grief? Will the grief ever go away? I don't know you
- 1:38can go through I think different one of us. Even I am going through
- 1:42counseling right now. We can imagine for Joel and the mom how is it
- 1:47like? How is it grief? Like? Yo? We know there are
- 1:49five stages. We know Okay, we've gone through it. I'm a pastor.
- 1:52We have done counseling, and sometimes the hardest people to counsel ah the
- 1:57pastest because they know Lord right, so they know what's going through. And
- 2:00so I told myself, I'm not going to overanalyze neither am I going to
- 2:07underestimate how grief it's like. So I'm still going through it. I can't
- 2:12say it's getting better. I hope it is, you cannot see the effect
- 2:15of it. I look very normal on stature, But I like what the
- 2:20late German geologian and pastor ditrich Upon Halfer say in one of his statements,
- 2:24in one of Love. He's saying this. He says that nothing can make
- 2:30up for the absence of someone whom we love, and it will be wrong.
- 2:35It would be wrong to try to find a substitute. We must simply
- 2:39hold out and see it through. That sounds very hard at first, but
- 2:45at the same time it is a great consolation for the gap as long as
- 2:52it remains unfiel. I repeat, the gap, as long as it remains
- 2:58unfiled, reserve the bond between us. It is nonsense to say that God
- 3:05feels the get You say that it's nonsense to say that God will feel the
- 3:09gap. God doesn't feel it, but on the contrary, keeps it empty.
- 3:17So helps us to keep us alive our former communion with each other,
- 3:24even at the course of pain. And I thought it was very beautiful written
- 3:30by Riship Vonoffer, that the grief that we go through, whether it's a
- 3:34passing away with somebody or whatever grief, sometimes the gap will be there for
- 3:38a long time because you love the person and that gap cannot be feeled.
- 3:44The pain will be more bearable, but the gap will always be dead.
- 3:50The thing about living funeral is this, there is not enough time to die.
- 3:54What I'm going to do is I'm just gonna read you different snippets from
- 3:59my book called Unspoken Words, UH to illustrate the whole thing. What do
- 4:04I mean by not enough time to die? I think that there are two
- 4:09ways people die, suddenly or gradually. Either way, either way it is
- 4:17of the times of the essence. In a case of sudden death, both
- 4:23the disease and the next of kin will be reactive towards its sudden like what
- 4:28positive actually went true. There is not enough time to think. Decisions will
- 4:31have to be made. In a case of a gradual death, by already
- 4:36is a main perspective. The remaining days that you have will become very important.
- 4:42Well, decisions will also have to be made, but you'll be more
- 4:46like learning to say no to the good things so that you will say yes
- 4:50to the best thing. Thinking about that is not a preoccupation of death.
- 4:56It's not. It does not need to be morbid. In fact, the
- 5:00more you learn to talk about death. The more you are in touch with
- 5:02your mortality. That brings a certain balanced perspective of life. From my experiences
- 5:11in life in persform, restreet death is a race against time, simply because
- 5:16we tend to postpone important things right to the end if time is kind enough
- 5:23to us in the case of a gradual death. Most people use their remaining
- 5:28time to appreciate love, ones seek forgiveness, distribute their assets to draw up
- 5:33their will, visit special places, do memorable things. But time is usually
- 5:40shorter than their bucket is. And the set truth is when you want to
- 5:44use your pressures time to do the important things, those around you will not
- 5:50be able to reciprocate in time. So but what if we space out?
- 5:55What if we live life with the end in mind even though we cannot predict
- 5:59when we die. What if we live each day appreciating the precious moments and
- 6:02doing the important things. I love the romantic comedy about Time. I love
- 6:09this romantic comedy. I'm not sure if you've seen that or not, but
- 6:12I make my pre metal counseling watch this movie. It is about the special
- 6:15ability of a young man by the name of Tim. His name is called
- 6:19Tiam, who is able to travel back into time anytime he wants. He
- 6:25can travel back in time, and the profound lesson at the end of this
- 6:29movie is this team learns to live each day twice. First time he lived
- 6:34normally with all the apps and downs, but the second time he lived again,
- 6:42but this time he noticed all the beauty in between without changing anything.
- 6:47We cannot time travel, but we can take time to appreciate them now and
- 6:55the most important time of our life now. See most of us, we
- 7:01don't have enough time to die. Which album in is book Tuesday with Maury
- 7:06inspire me to do the living funeral, and he says this that when you
- 7:12learn how to die, when you learn how to die, you learn how
- 7:17to live. So why a living funeral? Why do a living funeral?
- 7:26Let me tell you why I've been thinking. I've been thinking, actually hard,
- 7:30how to celebrate my fiftieth day, How to make it meaningful, how
- 7:34to make it memorable. So I told myself, Okay, there will be
- 7:39fifty things that I'm going to do for my fiftieth birth day. I want
- 7:44readrow all fifty. I just came through some Number one a fishing trip with
- 7:47my father. Number two I will complete my doctorate. Dese is number three.
- 7:51My mother will attend my convocation because I realized that when I got my
- 7:56first degree, my second degree, you know, I didn't want a convocation,
- 7:59just felt was very unnecessary. I forgot that it matters a lot to
- 8:03my mother. So I say, on my fiftieth day, I will graduate
- 8:07and my mom will attend that. And she did that. And one of
- 8:09the things I want to do is I'm going to do a musical watch of
- 8:13musical together with my wife. You know, Kelly, and one of my
- 8:16goddaughters have always loved to go clubbing, and she don't dare to go.
- 8:20So I went with her clubbing, father and daughter just doing clubbing together.
- 8:24And then one of the things I wanted to do is to conduct the funeral,
- 8:28the real funeral my cousin Dorothy. And then I want to coordinate a
- 8:31young Pastor's academy. And then I want to do a theological study on the
- 8:37subject of the anger of God, God getting angry and me getting angry at
- 8:41God. And I told myself I'm going to preach a sermon series in every
- 8:45nation church Malaysia entitled the Journey of Transition. One more thing I want to
- 8:48do is I want to design and conduct systematic theology for the next generation.
- 8:54So I put myself into the test. I put all the teenage there,
- 8:56and I teach theology. If they sleep, feel, if they get excited.
- 9:01You know. I passed, you know. So I did that,
- 9:05and then I wanted to produce a corporate video for my company. The review
- 9:07story I put out here, I want to double it with positimity and risa.
- 9:13One more thing, I'm gonna play football and score. I must spake
- 9:18sure I score when I turn fifty. You oh, I don't like Duran.
- 9:22And for the three things I want to do with this, I'm gonna
- 9:24eat a whole Duran I myself, you know. And then I'm gonna have
- 9:28a jubilee dinner with my closest friend. Number forty eight, I want to
- 9:33catch Spider and watch them fine. Forty nine, I'm gonna rewrite my book
- 9:39Unspoken Words. And the fiftieth thing the fifty things I want to do is
- 9:43this, I want to do my living funeral. So why my living funeral?
- 9:50Why not you think about it? Since most of you will not be
- 9:56at my real funeral. My living funeral, I invite as many people as
- 10:03I can. Let me tell you why I did my living funeral. Number
- 10:05one, I get to see those who can make it to my funeral.
- 10:11Number two, I get to thank and appreciate the people while I'm still alive.
- 10:16Number three, I get to hear songs and eulogy and I can actually
- 10:20correct them right or wrong. I can design my own funeral program and debreathe
- 10:26with my wife. Later. I get to see my own coffin, and
- 10:33yes, I wanted a white coffin. Another reason, it is cheaper.
- 10:37You don't need to buy any risks for my funeral. Number eight. You
- 10:41do not need to visit me in the event that I'm in a hospital.
- 10:45Please do not visit me if I'm lying in a hospital. Number nine.
- 10:48My parents and siblings get to see my funeral and hear my appreciation for them.
- 10:54Number ten. You do not need to look solemn. You can still
- 10:58cry, but it will be tears of graditu Number eleven. Now they've done
- 11:01my living funeral, you have a lifetime to appreciate me and take me out
- 11:05for a nice meal. Number twelve. Invariably it will cause you to think
- 11:11of your own funeral. And Number fifteen. Now that I've learned to die,
- 11:20I can say that the best of me is yet to come. Aw
- 11:24Tosa. In this book Whatever Happens to Worship, he says this. He
- 11:28says that the average person in the world today, without faith, without God,
- 11:33without hope, is engaged in a desperate personal search throughout his lifetime.
- 11:39He does not really know where he has been. The average person, he
- 11:45does not really know what he's doing here, and now he does not know
- 11:50where he is going. The said commentary is that he's doing all on borrowed
- 11:56time, borrowed money, borrowed strength, and he already knows that in the
- 12:03end he will surely die. It boils down to the bewildered confession of many
- 12:09that we have lost God. Somewhere along the way, Men made more like
- 12:16God than any creature, has become less like God than any other creature.
- 12:24Men created to reflect the glory of God, he has retreated suddenly in his
- 12:30cave, reflecting only in his own sinfulness. Certainly, it is a tragedy
- 12:37above all tragedies that men meet with a soul to worship and praise and sing
- 12:43God's glory now sucks silently in his own cave. Love has gone from his
- 12:50heart, light has gone from his mind. Having lost God, he blindly
- 12:54stumbles on through this dark world, only to find grief at the end.
- 13:01And my prayer is that I would not lose God along the way. I
- 13:05would like to always say the best of me is yet to come. And
- 13:13that's why I did mine living funeral. It took me two years to plan
- 13:18for it, and I have got malaives coming. I've got all sorts of
- 13:22people coming. I have a lot of Chinese superstitis who come because they scolded
- 13:30their children and says Sola, this person didn't diet. Going to a living
- 13:35funeral, you know, and most of my young Adul says, that's precisely
- 13:39why we need to hear you, Pacifictor. And after the event, it
- 13:43was amazing how family turned around. And my living funeral we collect an offering
- 13:48for cancer survivor and family is being restored and detain me and say, Pasi
- 13:54Victor, your living funeral actually helped me to manage my parents' funeral. Whenever
- 14:00we talk to my parents about funeral, they will school us. It's a
- 14:03taboo subject for Chinese. But we get to blame you because when you do
- 14:09it, my parents are angry, and actually that's exactly what we need them
- 14:15to be angry at first, but in their anger they begin to talk about
- 14:20their life. They are will their lives and dislikee and inaviatably, we were
- 14:28ready to say goodbye to my parents. So that was why I did my
- 14:33living funeral. And also in my living funeral, it's four funeral in one.
- 14:39It is also to honor my wife. Both my parents also get to
- 14:41see how their funeral will be alive. So tomorrow both my parents are still
- 14:48alive, and if they pass away tomorrow, we will know what to do.
- 14:52And they have seen the gratitude that we have done for them. So
- 14:56eventually it was not about me. We'renna pointed back to the God. So
- 15:01really, now if I really die, if I really die today, you
- 15:07know, how will my real funeral be? Will first of all my in
- 15:13every funeral, I notice the wife. Ah, you will see that in
- 15:20most funerals there's a lot of activities going on. My poor wife, if
- 15:26she survived me, will have a lot of thanking and hosting to do.
- 15:31She will have a lot of decisions to make, she will have a lot
- 15:35of directing to do, and she's probably gonna hear countless testimony of what a
- 15:39blessing I have been to those in attendence. She will have no time to
- 15:43grieve. She will keep saying thank you for coming, thank you for coming,
- 15:46that you're coming, thank God. She would have had a lot of
- 15:50people, and that's not wrong. That's what I've seen in every funeral,
- 15:54and that's precisely what I don't want my wife to actually go through. In
- 16:00short, my funeral allowed them to be a family, a space to be
- 16:04family without a constrain of time. There's no pressure to perform, no obligation
- 16:11to take care of guests and make heaty financial contribution. They can be themselves,
- 16:17enjoy familiness. It takes a funeral to be a family again, and
- 16:22we will cherish that for a long time. And so in the event that
- 16:30I am sick, please do not visit me in the hospital, all right,
- 16:34because if you do visit me in the hospital, it's very stressful for
- 16:38my family members. They have to entertain you. You think about it,
- 16:42if this is a hospital bit, if I am blind on the hospital bit,
- 16:49and if past the andes here the doctor citizen about twenty minutes of sharing
- 17:00that right, definitely past and DNJ will pray for me, right, I
- 17:04still pray for being here in Jesus name Amen. Just after before I fall
- 17:10asleep, Joelo will come. Oh you know that would. Oh and I'm
- 17:17very sure Joelo out of bread deal will be praying for me. Right.
- 17:18Oh. Can you imagine how many more people will be doing this? And
- 17:26you are robbing myself time with my wife. Not that you're not important,
- 17:33You're very important. I know you love me. You can just text,
- 17:37send me a video something you know like that because as a pastor, I
- 17:41found that some of the most beautiful moments before people pass it pass away is
- 17:47the last moment at this side. Please call my son from us. I'm
- 17:55so sorry, pasta. I want to say sorry to my son a video,
- 17:59tip it and be wait for the sun to act, will come back
- 18:02and if you are there. Actually, the truth is, I know you
- 18:06love the person, but you're distracting the family time. And then that's when
- 18:11I say, don't need to visit me in hospital unless I call you to
- 18:15actually come. So if you think about it, when you learn to do
- 18:22your living fun way, begin to think about your own funeral. You think
- 18:26with the end in mind, you will leave a better person. But I'm
- 18:30not saying you must do your living funeral. Now. The interesting thing is
- 18:34this conversation I have had many times with Faster the team. We laugh about
- 18:40it, we joke about it, but the truth is, you know,
- 18:42you know by concept, you know really. But the funny thing is when
- 18:45asking Tim in your termtime, I say, I ask simple, a very
- 18:48simple person. Just keep it simple. I'm very simple man. You know,
- 18:52no ne la, whatever you wanna do, they do. So.
- 18:56During my friend's funeral, I was there, of use, I was crying.
- 18:59You know. I'll tell myself Tim when I get to heaven, I
- 19:02need to discuss with you again. Why didn't you give me more instruction what
- 19:06you actually want to do. You're simple to be simple at all. But
- 19:11of course the beautiful thing about what's the team's you know, is this in
- 19:15one death, when one life was taken away, many more roles, many
- 19:19more leaders came up to me and say, passiving, I will be a
- 19:25better leader. Passiving, I will be the better husband. Passively. I
- 19:29will now come for prayer meeting Pacific. Now I will be a cell leader.
- 19:33You know, I'm not sure it's it out of guilt or what but
- 19:36I look at a coffeine and the team and say, well, mine is
- 19:38going to be private. Yours is very public. But in one death you
- 19:42actually achieved so much. No wonder it would of God says, you know,
- 19:45when the colonel which falls and die many more or bad fruits and my
- 19:52dear friend team leave his legacy. But for me it would be like that.
- 19:57For me it will be private because I love my wife, I love
- 20:03the people around me, and I wanted my cultural all to be around.
- 20:08So if you're not there, it's really helpful. Let them learn to be
- 20:14family. But one year later, ah, it's a different story. One
- 20:18year later, two years later, one month later, I'm very sure one
- 20:22of my godson or goddaughter will want to do something public, and then it's
- 20:26okay. Then you can actually go ahead and do it. And if I
- 20:30mean a lot to you, you will be there. If not, it's
- 20:33okay not to be there. The Book of Some Study, chapter nine,
- 20:38verse four to seven has this to say. It says say that show me,
- 20:45oh God, my life's d and a number of my days. In
- 20:49others it's very bribical to tell God, God, show me, show me
- 20:53God, how long do while I live. Sometimes God will tell you,
- 20:59sometimes you would. I don't know, but something says, show me you
- 21:02know the number of my days, and let me know how fleeting my life
- 21:07is. You have made my days a mere hand breadth, and the span
- 21:11of my years. There's nothing before you. Each man's life is. But
- 21:18yeah, a breath. That's all we are. Men is a mere phantom.
- 21:23He goes to and fro. He buzzes about, but play in vain.
- 21:29He heaps up wealth, not knowing who will get it. But now,
- 21:33Lord, what do I look for? My hope is in you?
- 21:38You all read thirty say that my hope, oh God, is in you.
- 21:47I need to close this time by sharing with you a soul check question
- 21:52that I do for most of my members. If I would ask you,
- 22:00how would you read the quality of your life? One to ten? How
- 22:07would you read it? How to say in a Pacific tar, very subjective?
- 22:11Okay, it doesn't matter. How would you read the quality of your
- 22:15life? You'll be interesting if you read one. It will also be very
- 22:18interesting if you read ten. Who would you read the quality of your life?
- 22:22Number two? Who is one person you really need to appreciate? Oh?
- 22:29Many many people? Yes, But who is one person now that you
- 22:32really want to appreciate? Next question, is there someone you need to make
- 22:38peace with? You? In your life? There will always be room for
- 22:42bitterness. I think there will be some room for and forgiveness for a start,
- 22:48because it's always a process. But the longer you read, the bitter
- 22:53it gets. Is there somebody you really need to make peace with? Next
- 23:02question? Have you settled all your financial and private affairs? The set truth
- 23:08about many funerals will be this. After the father, mother, or the
- 23:12loved one pass away, you leave behind a huge amount of debt and answerved
- 23:21methods for the loved ones to actually manage. Next question, what is the
- 23:29best way to appreciate your family? The next question what is the most precious
- 23:40possession you are living behind? Was the final question? Have you accepted the
- 23:49Lord Jesus Christ and as your personal Lord and savior? This is some questions
- 23:59Sorison I like to leave with you now. Some of you are a lot
- 24:03more younger. You're not thinking about death, which is totally okay, But
- 24:07remember what I say. There are two ways to die. Die suddenly die
- 24:14gradually. If you are young, you think yours will be a gradual death.
- 24:18Thing again. If you are old, you may think you will die.
- 24:22Suddenly, think again. The statistics of death is very amazing. One
- 24:29out of one will die. It's amazing, one out of one will die.
- 24:34I've done a powerful study of this subject. One out of one will
- 24:38die. How would you want to live this mortal life? And that is
- 24:45why I did my living funeral? All right, So on the close,
- 24:52because we know we have a Q and A and I give you enough time
- 24:53for that to actually happen. But again on behalf of uh pastitive team,
- 25:00but the triassa and every nation church, we want to thank you to be
- 25:04the church that He preaches, last sermon the main thing, keep the mainting,
- 25:11the maintaing honor God, make disciples a powerful servant that He preaches.
- 25:18And today's my honor to stand at the same stage to share my story with
- 25:25all of you. I'm sure there'll be money more days that we can share
- 25:29more, but like to keep this serman simple by sharing about my living Throughnerald.
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