Latest / Financial Survival Network / Buy Land in Texas -- Clint Turner #5885
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- 0:00I'm not a big like invest in real estate with no money kind of guy.
- 0:05Just unless you got a lot of time or a lot of heart with
- 0:08some people, do is great. I want, like, I want somebody
- 0:11to have ten or twenty thousand dollars to start so that they can you know,
- 0:15a target three to five different areas, because when you're just starting you
- 0:18don't know right. You gotta choose a few areas and hope and a prayer
- 0:23type deal. Set up two marketing systems For me, I would go with
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- 0:50Survival Network now more than ever, and welcome. You aren't watching listening to
- 1:00the Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Carry Lutz. Where at the
- 1:03last week in August, amazing party is almost over for the summer, But
- 1:11if you're looking to get back into things, got a really impressive guest here,
- 1:15Clint Turner, and Clint you started out in twenty seventeen investing in land
- 1:23and it's just mushroom from there. Hey, what were you doing before you
- 1:26got into investing land? By the way, you find a Clint's site,
- 1:30learned dot land and if you got a question for Clint or myself, kl
- 1:34at Kerry Lutz dot com. So, Clint, before you got into land
- 1:38investing, what were you doing? I was trying to graduate college. That
- 1:42was what I was good. Oh you're n yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 1:46I'm one of those that sounded a little earlier. So I was coming out
- 1:49of college and I had started a sales job and tech sales, and very
- 1:53quickly realized that was not going to be a long term path for me.
- 1:57So I had a bunch of sidehouse I was putting at ms and bars,
- 2:01trying to flip houses with a buddy, and I stumbled into land and it
- 2:07made me the most money and it was simple for my simple brain, and
- 2:09so I've just stuck with it. So so all right, So land investing,
- 2:16you're primarily confined to Texas, and if I understand your reasons correctly,
- 2:23because you can basically sidestep the zoning process or the rezoning process if you're dealing
- 2:30with ten acres or more? Do I have that right? Yes, a
- 2:34couple of caveats. Texas likes to throw in extra territorial jurisdictions or etjs,
- 2:39where some areas they'll try and cast. But for the most part, in
- 2:43Texas, if you can buy twenty or more acres and you're outside of a
- 2:46city limit, so you just turn the city limit filter on and whatever software
- 2:52you're outside of city limits, you can buy pass platting. You're it's called
- 2:57an exemption from platting, and it allows you to take that property. And
- 3:00as long as the you know, daughter tracks, if you think of them
- 3:04that way, father daughter are over ten acres, then you bypass the process
- 3:09so you can go in. And it makes underwriting and looking at deals a
- 3:13lot easier because there is a lot less yeahs, oh my god, Blake.
- 3:16So you can basically have that thing flipped and ready for construction in a
- 3:23matter of weeks or days even, right. Yeah, And the construction we
- 3:27do is sometimes none, but if we do, it's just it's very simple
- 3:31horizontal. We'll do driveways. The electric company extends the electric, the water
- 3:36company extends the water, so Infazona and yeah, very very very basic infrastructure.
- 3:43And I'll tell you this, you can sell dirt with no infrastruction too.
- 3:46I've just found in these markets, if you can make you know,
- 3:49your property sell quicker. So yeah, all right, so I like it.
- 3:54It sounds good. And how much can you make on a property like
- 3:59that? Well? Yeah, so, I mean our last few deals understanding
- 4:06of sake in seven or eight years to get to this point, our properties
- 4:10are we're buying them between five hundred thousand and one and a half million and
- 4:15then basically flipping them for dumble that right, that's kind of the simple way
- 4:18to think about it. But I started out by fifteen hundred dollars parcels,
- 4:26eight hundred dollars parcels, two hundred dollars or two thousandsar parcels and selling them
- 4:30for double that. Right, So there's been a there's been a step being
- 4:33stone there. But you know, how hard is it to find deals?
- 4:38Now? All right? That's hard? You're looking right, Uh, they're
- 4:43they're out there. One of the challenging things in our arena is that,
- 4:47like if you're looking for an apartment building, a rental property, a cell
- 4:51storage facility, there's almost always debt that motivates the owner to make a decision
- 4:57right whether the cash show the proper for you or they've just got so much
- 5:00equity in it whatever. In land world, not many large ranches have debt
- 5:06against them. They're almost all owned in cash generationally passed down, and so
- 5:12a motivation factor is more of situational than like economic. Right, So there
- 5:19was land in Texas has generally gone about forty percent over the last three years
- 5:25just in a dollar per acre spaces. Everybody wants to sell right now.
- 5:29So it makes fighting deals a little bit challenging. But again in my business,
- 5:34two good deals a year is gonna you know, that's gonna make a
- 5:38very very good year for us. So it's just about staying consistent and then
- 5:43okay, and now you coach people and you help them do this. If
- 5:46I want to start buying, lay on, how much money do I need
- 5:49to get into this game? Yeah, you probably need about ten to twenty
- 5:53thousand, is what I say to start. I don't use my well for
- 5:58the most part, I people not to use their on money to start right
- 6:01to able to find and put deals together and just work with capital partners like
- 6:05my fund. For example, we partner with people fifty fifty on deals,
- 6:10right, and so tend to twenty grand is good to start. So you
- 6:13can start making contacts, set up basic systems, and you know, start
- 6:16putting deals together and then really you know, skies of lemage from there,
- 6:19as much as you want to invest. I invest a lot of my personal
- 6:23cash into land notes just because they yield twenty thirty or forty percent a year.
- 6:28And I don't know another asset class that does that pretty consistently, but
- 6:30the same consistency as you pay your mortgage, we make those kind of returns.
- 6:34And so I do put a good portion of my own cash into our
- 6:38deals too, But I don't teach that out in the game, right,
- 6:41I say, use other people's some money. So what best areas in Texas
- 6:45to look at? The I mean, I know the whole state is one
- 6:47big It's like Florida, It's one big group. Yeah, undergoing tremendous growth.
- 6:53You go thirty million people, second most populous state in the country now
- 6:57and climbing, well, California, the first is declining. Texas Laurida are
- 7:03on the move. Maybe one day Texas will be the most populous state.
- 7:06You never know, So areas of Texas that you like the best. My
- 7:13simple thing is, if I'm looking for a good land deal, it's within
- 7:15two hours of the international airport in the state of Texas. Pretty easy to
- 7:20josh circle there andrew metro areas within. That's not not all not all you
- 7:27know, encompassing, but a lot of those deals sell a lot quicker than
- 7:32versus way out West Texas or wouldn't be tex You wouldn't be an out Abilene
- 7:39or LaRita. Right, No, Well, but I do know people who
- 7:43do. Because people who can't afford land two hours away from the city,
- 7:46they go three, four or five hours, right, different buyer pool,
- 7:50a lot of owner financing, a lot less of the infrastructure type talk that
- 7:55we're having here. But I mean, I got a buddy who all he
- 7:58does is slept dry dry land in West Texas and make selling figures. You're
- 8:03doing it. So there's demand all around the state, but you're going to
- 8:05find the highest leverage for your time and that kind of two hour window,
- 8:09I think. So then that's basically three metropolitan areas. Then with international airports
- 8:16Houston, Dallas, in Austin, right in San Antonio, in San Antonio,
- 8:22right, so that before right, I forgot about San Antonio. Yeah,
- 8:26so of those four, which do you like the best? I have
- 8:30found after doing this for a long time, that you can make more deals
- 8:33happen if you really can understand the local market. Right. So, I'm
- 8:37lucky to live in I lived in Austin for eight years. Now I live
- 8:41back in Dallas. I grew up in Dallas. So being able to step
- 8:45focus. There's a lot of people who flip land or who also help or
- 8:48whatever, and they never see they never meet the owner, they never step
- 8:50on the property. When you can go shake an old man's hand he's out
- 8:54of property for eighty years, it jumps you to the front of the line,
- 8:58right. So I enjoy getting out in the field going to look at,
- 9:01you know, large ranges that we get to buy. I think it's
- 9:03actually one of my favorite parts of the job. Job. I don't know,
- 9:07you know of though, of the life we chose, but yeah,
- 9:11that's kind of what we're looking for. Sorry, I don't remember question.
- 9:16Okay, that's good. Just which area you like the best? But I
- 9:20got it that area like the best is the area that you're closest to because
- 9:22you probably have the most knowledge. But that isn't necessarily a bar to going
- 9:28to additional areas. Yeah, right, So do you buy them outright for
- 9:35cash? Do you get a land contract clows that's closing in ninety days and
- 9:41then flip it before you even take ownership of it as it were? All
- 9:45three of those plus conventional financing will do as well. But you know,
- 9:50I say, we're going to always start. We're gonna try and start with
- 9:52seller financing. We'll do a discount of cash prize. You know, we'll
- 9:56kind of put those two offers out and if can't close and the deal still
- 10:01makes sense to come up, and we're gonna look more towards hard money.
- 10:05I mean, there's a few companies out there, ares included that like our
- 10:09whole like half my deals I do with my clients and with my students I
- 10:13do with my network follow me right, just becauess the margins are so high
- 10:18and so you know with that where it's it's tough to say, right,
- 10:24but well we like them all all right. So someone getting into this,
- 10:28what are the three most important things they need to do before they get serious
- 10:31about it? Yeah? So, I mean, first I'd say I'm not
- 10:35a big like invest in real estate with no money kind of guy. Just
- 10:41unless you got a lot of time or a lot of heart, which some
- 10:45people do is great. I want, like, I want somebody to have
- 10:48ten or twenty thousand dollars to start so that they can, you know,
- 10:50a target three to five different areas, because when you're just starting you don't
- 10:54know, right, you gotta choose a few areas and hope and a prayer
- 10:58type deal. Set up two marketing systems. For me, I would go
- 11:03with mail and text messaging. But I'm not a lawyer, so you figure
- 11:07out that setback yourself. I'm a retro thirdeen but yeah, yeah, that's
- 11:13that's like everybody that gets in less I feel like. But and then the
- 11:16third I would say is you need to be making like fifty off or some
- 11:20months minimum. Right, you can just do those three steps. I've never
- 11:24seen that not work to where you at least get a deal and get the
- 11:28game going right. Okay, all right, well it seems fascinating, So
- 11:33just tell us how we connect with you on the web, how we get
- 11:35together with you. Yeah. Sure, if you want to talk to us
- 11:39someone on our team about investing in land, you can just go to learn
- 11:43dot Land there is no dot com. Okay, I can't can't get after
- 11:48us to the domain they you know, they just spot by us or whatever.
- 11:52But so it's learned dot land dot com. It's pretty much just a
- 11:56questionnaire on that page. So if you want to chat with someone on our
- 11:58team, you can do that. You follow me on Instagram on YouTube.
- 12:01I respond all the comments and I answer them as my DM so feel free
- 12:05to connect the right All right, Well, if you have a question for
- 12:07Clint myself, shoot me at email k l at krylts dot com. The
- 12:13link to clint site is in the show notes to this interview on Financial Survival
- 12:18Network dot com. Make sure you go there sign up for your free newsletter.
- 12:22Clint, we'll talk to you again. I want to get more in
- 12:24depth into how you evaluate deals, how you figure out you're going to make
- 12:28money at them. But forgetting the taste of it today, I think was
- 12:31pretty good. Appreciate you coming on and we'll talk to you soon. Thanks,
- 12:35Terry, appreciate it. Thanks for listening to carry Lets's Financial Survival Network
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