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The Kenny Report | 12 August · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi stuck between melons and a hard place. Critics
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  Speaker 3: from all sides of politics cool on him just to
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  Speaker 3: apologize to Japan and Australia and move on, but he
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  Speaker 3: and his so called female friendly cabinet remain in denial.
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  Speaker 3: Climate and Energy Minister Chris Bowen boasts about subsidized batteries
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  Speaker 3: and falling wholesale power prices while most of his renewable
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  Speaker 3: projects are scrapped and actual power bills continue to rise.
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  Speaker 3: Pauline Hanson will join me live to talk immigration, melons
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  Speaker 3: and my new doco about the fight for the Right,
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  Speaker 3: Tom Switzer on Trump and the Middle East, s the
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  Speaker 3: Kraku in London, and the Wednesday wrangle with James and Justin.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get cracking. Incredibly, after days of controversy, weeks after
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  Speaker 3: his puerile exchange where he mocked a special gift of
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  Speaker 3: melons from the first female Prime Minister of Japan, Anthony
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  Speaker 3: Albanesi is still refusing to apologize.
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  Speaker 4: Millions of Australians have now seen with their own eyes
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  Speaker 4: the Prime Minister's appalling behavior on the Bush Deep Podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Now he embarrasses all of us by refusing to apologize
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  Speaker 4: to the Prime Minister of Japan. Why woul't the Prime
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  Speaker 4: Minister stop treating us like fools? Man up and say
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  Speaker 4: sorry to the Prime Minister of Japan.
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  Speaker 5: God, my office and my team have spent four years
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  Speaker 5: carefully rebuilding our relationships you. We take our relationships seriously,
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  Speaker 5: including our regular engagement with Japan.
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  Speaker 3: This episode has exposed Albanese's poor judgment and lack of
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  Speaker 3: diplomatic common sense. We can only wonder what this visiting
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  Speaker 3: delegation must have made of all this in Parliament today.
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  Speaker 6: I'm pleased to advise the House that on the floor
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  Speaker 6: of Parliament today is a historic delegation from the National
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  Speaker 6: Parliament of tim Or Leste, led by the first female
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  Speaker 6: President of the National Assembly and the first time a
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  Speaker 6: President of the Assembly has ever sat on the floor
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  Speaker 6: of our Parliament, Her Excellency Mss Maria Fernande Leah and
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  Speaker 6: an all female parliamentary delegation. Welcome to question time, Welcome
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  Speaker 6: to Australia.
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  Speaker 3: We can only hope the delegation from East tm Or
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  Speaker 3: didn't bring any fruit. The Prime Minister has also had
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  Speaker 3: his hypocrisy laid bare over respect for women, and this
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  Speaker 3: has seen his senior female cabinet ministers demonstrate their own
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  Speaker 3: double standards when it comes to casual sexism. Labour's self
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  Speaker 3: proclaimed superiority on women's issues and its claim to hold
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  Speaker 3: great respect for the role of women in political debate.
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  Speaker 7: Anyone's hypocrisy, tanure plebosx hipocrisy, Catherine King's hypocrisy is now
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  Speaker 7: on display. Their double standards are therefore all Australians to see.
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  Speaker 7: It's their prime minister who's been crude and dirty and
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  Speaker 7: this is an incident tom now formally raised by the
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  Speaker 7: Japanese government. As I said, I want to hear directly
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  Speaker 7: from our foreign minister. Did you raise this personally with
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  Speaker 7: mister ALBERNIZI have you raised it with the Japanese government?
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  Speaker 7: But more than that, did you tell your Prime minister
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  Speaker 7: to apologize for his crude and dirty comments that just
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  Speaker 7: haven't embarrassed him, they have now embarrassed Australia.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Our Labor ministers, including the Minister for Women Katie Gallagher,
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  Speaker 3: have defended the Prime minister.
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  Speaker 8: The comments and the remarks in the Prime minister have
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  Speaker 8: been missing topreted. The Prime Minister is very clear that
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  Speaker 8: he did not mean for those comments to be interpreting
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  Speaker 8: the way they have by some media outlets and by
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  Speaker 8: our political opponents.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's just misinterpreted his comments. And Penny Wong, who
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  Speaker 3: has long taken the moral high ground over women's issues
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  Speaker 3: and is directly involved in smoothing over any diplomatic damage
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  Speaker 3: as Foreign Minister, well, she too is trying to argue
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  Speaker 3: that any outrage here is confected.
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  Speaker 9: I would encourage you to not participate in the confection
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  Speaker 9: of a diplomatic issue which we are seeing from those
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  Speaker 9: less responsible on your side of the Parliament.
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  Speaker 3: Look, I said yesterday this episode was more akin to
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  Speaker 3: Celes Patterson than a real prime minister.
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  Speaker 2: So see if you can pick the difference. I do
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  Speaker 2: a chess problem.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, a massage might help, Darling.
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  Speaker 11: Do you think you could steal one out later?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: I think I could hurry.
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  Speaker 2: The Japanese Prime minister brought a melon. She she smuggled it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Oh, I got a couple of melons.
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  Speaker 2: She brought too. She brought too, as you do.
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  Speaker 11: She just came in looking like Pamela r Anders.
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  Speaker 1: She brought too.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and they're beautiful. So Les Albanzi. It's crass.
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  Speaker 3: It was disrespectful to Senai Takaichi and to all of Japan,
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  Speaker 3: and it has diminished Australian Yet Albanesi is in denial
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  Speaker 3: and copying it from all angles, including the.
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  Speaker 2: Teal left and the populist right. Was the PM.
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  Speaker 8: I'd pick up the phone to the Japanese Prime Minister
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  Speaker 8: and apologize to her on this one.
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  Speaker 12: It's discussing what he's done and he cannot apologize, and
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  Speaker 12: that is not leadership.
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  Speaker 11: If you get it wrong, you call it out.
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  Speaker 12: And you say I got it wrong, and he's continued
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  Speaker 12: with the lie, which it's made it worse. I feel
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  Speaker 12: for that Prime Minister of Japan, Taka Hitshi. I think
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  Speaker 12: it's wrong that the way she's been treated.
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  Speaker 3: How about that Albanesi has blown this so badly. He's
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  Speaker 3: got Pauline Hansen and Manique Ryan on a unity ticket.
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  Speaker 3: Time for an update on what the Albanese Labor government
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  Speaker 3: added its Climate and Energy Minister Chris Bowen are doing
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  Speaker 3: to our energy grid. Remember, energy is the lifeblood of
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  Speaker 3: everything that's made us prosperous and comfortable, whether it's schools, hospitals, farms, homes, cities, towns, factories, offices, sport, jobs, health,
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  Speaker 3: universities or entertainment. Everything about our enviable civilization and our
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  Speaker 3: nation comes back to energy. And Australia's great economic advantage
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  Speaker 3: of the past century or so has been cheap and
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  Speaker 3: reliable electricity.
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  Speaker 2: That is no longer the case.
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  Speaker 3: Our governments have prioritized reducing a missions over providing affordable
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  Speaker 3: and reliable power, and they've done so because they like
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  Speaker 3: to pretend that they're saving the planet from a climate catastrophe.
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  Speaker 3: So how is Bowen going Chris Bowen going against his
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  Speaker 3: own promises and grand pronouncements.
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  Speaker 2: First, let's get cost.
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  Speaker 13: Out of the way energy bills which will be two
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  Speaker 13: hundred and seventy five dollars for the average house lower
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  Speaker 13: in twenty twenty five than today, reducing power prices by
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  Speaker 13: two hundred and seventy five dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, as we know, he could have could not have
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  Speaker 3: gotten this promise any more wrong. He couldn't have broken
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  Speaker 3: it any more badly. Not only have power prices failed
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  Speaker 3: to be cut by two hundred and seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 3: a year, they went up two hundred and seventy five
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  Speaker 3: dollars a year, and then they went up another two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five dollars a year, and they've gone
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  Speaker 3: up yet further two hundred and seventy five dollars on
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  Speaker 3: top of that, putting Bowen and Labor about one thousand
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  Speaker 3: dollars a year inner rears of their electricity price promise.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's look at more of Bowen's plan.
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  Speaker 13: Australia can lead the world, an offshoal wind, Victoria can
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  Speaker 13: lead Australia, an offshore wind and Gippsland can lead Victoria
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  Speaker 13: and offshore wind.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bowen has announced offshore wind projects in Victoria, South
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  Speaker 3: Australia and New South Wales. But now, after more than
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  Speaker 3: four years in office, Labor has not seen a single
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  Speaker 3: offshore wind project built in any of his six declared areas,
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  Speaker 3: despite Labour's plans often riding roughshod over local objections. So
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  Speaker 3: it's been good news in the end for those local communities.
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  Speaker 3: But all the face has been over nothing because these
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  Speaker 3: projects just don't stack up. Who would have guessed, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: as most of us said all along, this stuff just
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  Speaker 3: just not add up. They throw our money at it,
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  Speaker 3: but it still doesn't work.
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  Speaker 2: So how about green hydrogen.
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  Speaker 13: We'll be leading the global green hydrogen revolution. Only Labor
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  Speaker 13: has the plan to ensure that Australia is part of
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  Speaker 13: and is leading that hydrogen revolution.
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  Speaker 2: The revolution.
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  Speaker 3: Labor, federally and in state governments, has promised billions of
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  Speaker 3: dollars of taxpayers money in grants and subsidies to kick
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  Speaker 3: off so called green hydrogen projects, and one by one
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  Speaker 3: they've fallen over in Queensland, at Gladstone in the Hunter Valley,
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  Speaker 3: in New South Wales in the West, and near Wyala
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  Speaker 3: in South Australia. Project after project, billions after billions, all
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  Speaker 3: going up like a hydrogen airship. And as if all
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  Speaker 3: of this isn't wild enough, how about the idea of
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  Speaker 3: exporting solar power Southeast Asia. The sun Cable Project was
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  Speaker 3: going to roll out vast areas of solar panels in
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  Speaker 3: the Northern Territory and feed it to Singapore via undersea cables.
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  Speaker 13: Some cable has enormous potential for Australia as you renewable
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  Speaker 13: ninja export powerhouse.
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  Speaker 3: But surprise, surprise, this bizarre plan also fell over. It
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  Speaker 3: was backed by billionaires Twiggy Forest and Mike cannon Brooks,
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  Speaker 3: but it went into administration.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of years ago, and it's now being floated
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  Speaker 2: again by Cannon Brooks.
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  Speaker 3: Let's hope not a single dollar of taxpayers money is
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  Speaker 3: ever involved.
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  Speaker 1: So there.
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  Speaker 2: It is not a great record.
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  Speaker 3: Is it, especially if you add in snowy Hydro two
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  Speaker 3: point zero, a project started under Malcolm Turnbull but embraced
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  Speaker 3: by labor, currently running about eight years overdue and twenty
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  Speaker 3: billion dollars over budget. And Chris Bowen, the minister who
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  Speaker 3: backs all these grand schemes, all these pathetic white elephants.
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  Speaker 3: He is the same minister who says the tried and
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  Speaker 3: tested technology of nuclear power is too hard and too
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  Speaker 3: expensive for Australia. So about thirty other developed economies around
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  Speaker 3: the world have got that one wrong, apparently, and instead
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  Speaker 3: Australia will lead the way with imaginary offshore wind, imaginary
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  Speaker 3: green hydrogen and imaginary snowy two point zero schemes, as
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  Speaker 3: well as an imaginary solar electricity cable to Singapore, as
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  Speaker 3: if we don't need more electricity right here in Australia.
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  Speaker 3: This is ongoing national energy self harm and the vandals
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  Speaker 3: in chief are Anthony Albanezi and Chris Bowen. Let's go
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  Speaker 3: to Camberra now and catch up with the One Nation
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  Speaker 3: leader Pauline Hansen.
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  Speaker 2: Pauline, thanks for joining us. How about this, Mellngates.
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  Speaker 3: It's got you in agreement with Manique Ryan of all people,
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  Speaker 3: why won't the Prime Minister just roll over and apologize?
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  Speaker 2: He says, we've got it all wrong.
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  Speaker 12: Well, you tell me, because we can't work it out.
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  Speaker 12: And you know, if you want to be leader of
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  Speaker 12: this nation, then admit when you get it wrong. And
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  Speaker 12: especially the most disgraceful thing.
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  Speaker 11: I think what he said.
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  Speaker 12: About Colie Minogue wasn't really nice, considering, you know, his wife,
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  Speaker 12: he's just newly married, and to make that comment about
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  Speaker 12: Coylie Minogue.
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  Speaker 11: But I think the big issue here.
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  Speaker 12: Chris is the way he's regarded to the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 12: of Japan, who is an ally of us, you know,
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  Speaker 12: a trading partner to the tune of about thirty four
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  Speaker 12: billion dollars a year. And yet the way he has
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  Speaker 12: discussed about the melons and his reaction to that comment
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  Speaker 12: the podcast that he should never have done in the
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  Speaker 12: first place.
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  Speaker 11: He was poorly advised.
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  Speaker 12: So it's a shame that it's come to this and
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  Speaker 12: he cannot understand just give a simple apology to the
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  Speaker 12: Prime Minister of Japan, Tuckahitchi, and just say I've got
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  Speaker 12: it wrong. I do apologize on behalf of the austrange people.
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  Speaker 12: But he's put us all in this boat. You know,
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  Speaker 12: who knows what the Japanese people think about Australia And
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  Speaker 12: we're all in the sinking raff with him.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, even if you take away the double entendre about
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  Speaker 3: the melons, he was asked about some of the worst
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  Speaker 3: gifts he's ever mentioned, and he profers up this recent
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  Speaker 3: gift from Japan. It's just so rude to a country
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  Speaker 3: that's supposed to be a key partner.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah, and he couldn't even declare them so either he
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  Speaker 12: didn't think they were worth the value that they are.
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  Speaker 12: And I know because I have seen the value of
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  Speaker 12: these melons and the precious gift, you know, to the
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  Speaker 12: Japanese people, it is a precious gift, and yet he
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  Speaker 12: hasn't declared it. And then he tells us he only
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  Speaker 12: got two. Well then he got four at melons. So
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  Speaker 12: you know, it's just the whole, the whole thing around
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  Speaker 12: all this. He's belittling this beautiful woman. And what I've
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  Speaker 12: heard is she's a lovely she's a lovely lady and
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  Speaker 12: her posision in the world as prime minister of a
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  Speaker 12: very prominent country, and.
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  Speaker 11: He should be apologizing.
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  Speaker 12: Wake up yourself, Alban easy, apologize to the Japanese prime minister.
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  Speaker 11: You've got it wrong, mate, You've got it very wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.
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  Speaker 3: It just occurs to me, having interviewed you last week
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  Speaker 3: for this documentary, The Fight for the Right, One of
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  Speaker 3: the key criticisms against you and your current resurgence through
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  Speaker 3: one Nation is that you don't have the experience or.
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  Speaker 2: The gravitas to be prime minister. Albanis.
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  Speaker 3: He's not really filling the job with a lot of
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  Speaker 3: decorum at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Is he.
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  Speaker 12: Well, I don't think he hears. You know, at least
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  Speaker 12: people get the truth out of me. And I think
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  Speaker 12: that people trust me more than what they do our
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  Speaker 12: current prime minister. Everyone knows where they stand with me,
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  Speaker 12: and I am quite willing to say if I don't
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  Speaker 12: get right, I'll admit that I got it wrong. You know,
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  Speaker 12: this is what a leader is about. You have to
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  Speaker 12: be there for what's right by the country. He's done
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  Speaker 12: the wrong thing by the country here, Chris. He's put
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  Speaker 12: us in a in the dog basket to say, with
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  Speaker 12: his reluctance to apologize and say, well, I've got it wrong.
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  Speaker 12: I've embarrassed the Primeister of Japan. I should never have
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  Speaker 12: said those things and I do owe you a deepest apology.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to the latest News twenty four Pulse opinion
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  Speaker 3: poll because it's fascinating viewing at the moment. Pock's on
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  Speaker 3: both the houses really for the major parties, with Labour
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  Speaker 3: now still below thirty percent at twenty eight percent and
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  Speaker 3: the Coalition at twenty two percent One Nation at twenty
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  Speaker 3: four percent. These are amazing times when you see those
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  Speaker 3: numbers in that direction. But this is one nation coming
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  Speaker 3: down a bit and the Coalition closing the gap. Do
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  Speaker 3: you feel that the surge to one Nation might have
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  Speaker 3: reached its peak?
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  Speaker 12: Look, Chris, I'm very buoyed by the support that we
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  Speaker 12: are getting. There's a lot of people out there, and
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  Speaker 12: there's margin of error in that as well, and a
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  Speaker 12: lot of people are still won't disclose who they're going
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  Speaker 12: to vote for. And I think the true polling day
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  Speaker 12: is on election day and that's the day for it.
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  Speaker 12: You know, people are starting to understand, wake up to
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  Speaker 12: what one nation stands for looking our policies. So who
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  Speaker 12: knows has it peaked or hasn't peaked. I'm not listening
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  Speaker 12: to all the rumors by some of these media outlets
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  Speaker 12: out there and what they're saying. Let's just get on
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  Speaker 12: and do the job and deal with the issues.
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  Speaker 11: People are sick and tight of seeing these polls every week.
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  Speaker 11: They really are.
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  Speaker 12: They said, Chris, stop talking about yourselves and let's see
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  Speaker 12: what you want to do for us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk about some of the issues behind. There's
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  Speaker 3: certainly immigration has been a key issue for you and
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  Speaker 3: a key reason for people going to one nation. The
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  Speaker 3: coalition starting the makeup ground in those polls because I've
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  Speaker 3: started to get I would suggest one of the reasons
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  Speaker 3: is because they've adopted a stronger immigration policy. Here's their
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  Speaker 3: shadow shadow Housing Minister Andrew Bragg on immigration numbers today.
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  Speaker 14: The shortfall between number of houses built and the number
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  Speaker 14: of people coming in is three fifty to four hundred thousand,
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  Speaker 14: about that, and so you need to have a norm
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  Speaker 14: somewhere around one hundred and eighty thousand to bridge.
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  Speaker 1: That gap over the fort estimates period.
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  Speaker 3: Like that's just the range, So startingly put a number
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  Speaker 3: there on what they would reduce migration to in this country.
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  Speaker 3: You've put numbers on this as well. Do you think
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  Speaker 3: that the Coalition are matching you on immigration?
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  Speaker 12: No, they're not going to match us, and they won't
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  Speaker 12: match us on the deportation of the illegals that are
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  Speaker 12: in the country or visa hold us all the students
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  Speaker 12: because they'll be beholding to the universities and those graduates
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  Speaker 12: and their families coming in the country. So they've been
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  Speaker 12: given an opportunity of being in government. Over the years
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  Speaker 12: they had high immigration coming into the country as well.
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  Speaker 12: The only ones that people can trust to deal with
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  Speaker 12: immigration is One Nation, Chris. We've taken the Coalition and
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  Speaker 12: the Labor Party kicking and screaming on many issues.
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  Speaker 11: But the coalition, who's.
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  Speaker 12: The first one that came out against the voice to
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  Speaker 12: Parliament One Nation, not the Nationals, not the Liberal Party.
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  Speaker 12: Then it was also about climate change, about net zero,
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  Speaker 12: it was one Nation. They've had to dump that because
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  Speaker 12: they've got it wrong with the public. They won't get
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  Speaker 12: out of Paris Agreement, so you're still bound to all
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  Speaker 12: this climate change bs that we're having to deal with
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  Speaker 12: and high energy costs. So these are important issues to
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  Speaker 12: the Australian people, the Liberal Party have no idea understanding
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  Speaker 12: of how they're going to turn this around.
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  Speaker 11: Even big business, small businesses.
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  Speaker 12: They haven't addressed their concerns either. That needs to be
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  Speaker 12: also will be high on my agenda to try and
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  Speaker 12: do what I can to give them the hope that
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  Speaker 12: they can stay in their business. It's going to be
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  Speaker 12: profitable for them, and a lot of these businesses have
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  Speaker 12: gone under under the current government. Over fourteen hundred industries
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  Speaker 12: manufacturing fifty that fifty thousand small businesses gone insolvent.
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  Speaker 3: I want to mention the documentary The Fight for the
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  Speaker 3: Right is here on News twenty four Tuesday week Tuesday
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  Speaker 3: the twenty fifth of August at seven pm. I spent
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  Speaker 3: a bit of time with you on the doco last
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  Speaker 3: week in Melbourne. We're still putting the final edit together,
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  Speaker 3: but our interview there.
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  Speaker 2: In Melbourne was for about an hour. There's a pretty
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  Speaker 2: in depth interview.
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  Speaker 3: There's only you misselfa cameraman and producer in the room.
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  Speaker 3: I won't dib in which one of them. One of
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  Speaker 3: them said, got the oppression you might walk out during
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  Speaker 3: that interview. Did you ever feel like running off in
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: the middle of the interview.
• 19:26
  Speaker 11: No, I didn't know.
• 19:27
  Speaker 12: I was just cranky with you at one stage, to
• 19:29
  Speaker 12: be honest. Yeah, because Chris, and I'll tell the people now,
• 19:34
  Speaker 12: I don't know if you're going to put it in
• 19:35
  Speaker 12: the interview, but you attempted to get me on a
• 19:37
  Speaker 12: gotcha moment, and you know, to ask me who was
• 19:40
  Speaker 12: the Prime minster of Indonesian? Who's the prime minister of Japan?
• 19:45
  Speaker 12: And I knew it was Takahitsche, but I couldn't think
• 19:47
  Speaker 12: of her name. And the whole fact is, you know,
• 19:49
  Speaker 12: I'm fed up with the gotcha moments. And you said, well,
• 19:52
  Speaker 12: you might be primis of the country. Well, guess what, Chris,
• 19:55
  Speaker 12: I'm not the prime minister now and I'm dealing with
• 19:57
  Speaker 12: the issues in Australia. If I'm ever ever in that position,
• 20:01
  Speaker 12: then I will deal with who are the leaders of
• 20:04
  Speaker 12: these nations? Maybe they have a turnover of their prime
• 20:06
  Speaker 12: ministers as often as we do in astrategy.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe, well that's interesting.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: There was plenty in that interview, and there'll be plenty
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: in the documentary, and there certainly wasn't much there that
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: could be called gotcha. But given you mentioned those questions,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: have you now have you brushed up. Have you found
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: out who the president of Indonesia is?
• 20:25
  Speaker 11: No, I haven't, Chris.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I told you.
• 20:27
  Speaker 12: Why do I need to, Chris, I'm dealing with the
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: issues that are important to the austrain people. I don't
• 20:33
  Speaker 12: need to know who the Prime Minister of Indonesia is,
• 20:36
  Speaker 12: or Cambodia or all these other countries.
• 20:39
  Speaker 11: I don't need to know that.
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: I'll know it if it is important to me. I'm
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: more interested in what's happening in rural and regional Australia
• 20:47
  Speaker 12: and to the farming sector, agricultural sector, and what's happening
• 20:51
  Speaker 12: for the cost living for the austrained people. And high
• 20:53
  Speaker 12: on my list is the moment is mass migration. I'll
• 20:56
  Speaker 12: deal with the issues that are important to you Austrands,
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: not who is a prime mister of Indonesia. And I'm
• 21:01
  Speaker 12: sure they're all running to the today. You know, they're
• 21:05
  Speaker 12: all wanting to have a look at it. Who's who's
• 21:07
  Speaker 12: the prime minister?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Life?
• 21:08
  Speaker 11: They did with me? I you cenophobic? So anyway, well.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: We've gone over time again. Thanks for joining me.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I can't can't wait to get the doco out there
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: to everyone pulling hats in there live from camera and
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: the Fight for the Right Tuesday, the twenty fifth of
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: August here on News twenty four I better get on
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: with the next issue and we're going to go back
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: to energy. I gave you that update at the top
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: of the program about labor and.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen's energies disasta.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: But listen to the client and Energy Minister Chris Bowen
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: pretending all of this is okay today because he's spending
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: billions of dollars of your money subsidizing home batteries for
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: well off Australians.
• 21:49
  Speaker 15: Australia is now the home battery capital of the world,
• 21:53
  Speaker 15: mister speaker.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: To put this in perspective order.
• 21:56
  Speaker 15: The Member for Bar Australians have put in fourteen point
• 21:59
  Speaker 15: one gigleur with home battery capacity over just over twelve months.
• 22:04
  Speaker 15: The United States has a total of nine gig one
• 22:08
  Speaker 15: hours of home battery capacity. A Strangers are putting more
• 22:11
  Speaker 15: home batteries in the last twelve months than the United
• 22:13
  Speaker 15: States has put in in history.
• 22:15
  Speaker 12: Is mega.
• 22:15
  Speaker 15: That is, the Alberdezi government and Australians working together to
• 22:20
  Speaker 15: reduce their bills and a missions reducing bills for themselves
• 22:24
  Speaker 15: and reducing bills for everyone else, and batteries have played
• 22:27
  Speaker 15: a huge role in seeing the forty seven percent reduction
• 22:31
  Speaker 15: in wholesale prices in Australia over the last twelve months.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Wholesale prices going down.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: We pay retail prices and they're going through the roof
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: because with renewables we have to pay for extra transmission
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: and storage and back up.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Of course, what an insult there from Chris Bohn.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: Let me bring in Zoe Hilton, the spokesperson for Affordable
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Energy Australia.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the program again, Zoey.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Look, this is just such spin from Bowen, boosting about
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: the number of home batteries while their government subst those
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: home batteries that you have to have a lot of
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: money you're solved to put in anyway, and boosting about
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: wholesale prices. Wholesale prices don't help any of.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Us, exactly.
• 23:09
  Speaker 16: I am sick to death of governments taking money through
• 23:13
  Speaker 16: our taxes and then giving it back to us through
• 23:16
  Speaker 16: energy subsidies and calling that affordability. That is not energy affordability,
• 23:19
  Speaker 16: That is slight of hand, and I just think it
• 23:22
  Speaker 16: is unacceptable and governments need to start pretending that subsidizing
• 23:26
  Speaker 16: the heck out of a particular energy source is going
• 23:29
  Speaker 16: to make our bills go down.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: It won't.
• 23:31
  Speaker 16: It will just hurt taxpayers more. And the thing is,
• 23:33
  Speaker 16: batteries they don't actually give you any more energy in
• 23:36
  Speaker 16: the grid. And so yes, you can put in a
• 23:38
  Speaker 16: whole bunch of batteries to shift when it's all a
• 23:40
  Speaker 16: power around, but at the end of the day, we
• 23:43
  Speaker 16: need more twenty four seven reliable power, and batteries just
• 23:46
  Speaker 16: are not going to give us that. They're going to
• 23:48
  Speaker 16: run out in a couple of hours.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: But all of us, our taxes are funding the subsidies
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: as well as the subsidies of the large scale renewable
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: energy projects and all the rest of it. It is right,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and the subsidies to major industries to keep them going
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: because they're crippled by high energy costs.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: It is frightening.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: I went through at the top of the program some
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: of the key issues that Labor have put out there.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: One, for instance, is offshore winds. So many times they've
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: told us that offshore wind is an answer.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: They've announced special areas for that, special zones, they've announced
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: controversial projects.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: None of them have got off the ground exactly.
• 24:20
  Speaker 16: An offshal wind is super super super expensive. It is
• 24:23
  Speaker 16: one of the most expensive ways to make electricity known
• 24:26
  Speaker 16: to mankind, and that is why these projects are not
• 24:28
  Speaker 16: getting off the ground. And when we look at the
• 24:30
  Speaker 16: UK and Denmark countries that do have offshoal wind, they're
• 24:34
  Speaker 16: having to strike these contract for different steals. The subsidy
• 24:37
  Speaker 16: deals for one hundred and seventy one hundred and eighty
• 24:39
  Speaker 16: dollars per megword hour. In Australia, we're going to be
• 24:42
  Speaker 16: looking at over two hundred dollars per mega word hour
• 24:44
  Speaker 16: or thereabouts for offshore wind because we don't have any
• 24:46
  Speaker 16: of these projects. They're incredibly difficult to build. And so
• 24:50
  Speaker 16: when you look at Victorian wholesale prices. Speaking about wholesale prices,
• 24:53
  Speaker 16: they last year were about seventy eight dollars per megword hour.
• 24:56
  Speaker 16: So when you compare seventy eight dollars per megword hour
• 24:58
  Speaker 16: to two hundred dollars megawat hour, that is the difference
• 25:02
  Speaker 16: that is going to have to be paid. You can't
• 25:04
  Speaker 16: lower prices by putting in an energy source that is
• 25:07
  Speaker 16: far far higher, more than double the current prices being paid.
• 25:11
  Speaker 11: It makes no sense.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Well, the other one is green hydrogen.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Right, this is supposed to save industry and help us
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: to have an alternative fuel to fossil fuels in mobile transport.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Billions of dollars in subsidies and grants, not a single project.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Getting up exactly.
• 25:26
  Speaker 16: The only projects that ever work with green hydrogen are
• 25:29
  Speaker 16: heavily subsidized. And even Ourica they received a subsidy deal
• 25:33
  Speaker 16: and that was where they were putting hydrogen into their
• 25:36
  Speaker 16: industrial processes that they weren't even having to transport it.
• 25:38
  Speaker 16: And even that made absolutely no sense economically. They cannot
• 25:42
  Speaker 16: make it stuck up without incredible government subsidies. It just
• 25:44
  Speaker 16: makes no sense.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Well, this is the thing that gets MEDE.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: We understand they want to reduce emissions, and we all
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: understand we need energy, but they waste all this money
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: on experimental effectively green hydrogen projects. Waste all these money
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: on very very difficult and expensive offshore wind projects. Even
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: you know solar energy exported to Southeast Asia and the
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Snowy Hydro two Portoero that's gone like twenty times over budget.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Yet they reject nuclear energy saying it's too complicated and
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: too expensive. I mean, how wrong are they on that?
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Given that most developed countries are actually increasing their investment
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: in nuclear exactly.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: It makes no sense.
• 26:23
  Speaker 16: We should not be keeping options off the table that
• 26:26
  Speaker 16: dozens of other countries using. We should have every option
• 26:28
  Speaker 16: on the table. That is what Australians deserve, that is
• 26:31
  Speaker 16: what we need to make sure that we can have
• 26:32
  Speaker 16: the most affordable grid possible. And so we just have
• 26:35
  Speaker 16: to lift the bands and put affordability and reliability first.
• 26:39
  Speaker 16: Don't put ideological government targets first. Affordability must be fast.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're still running a petition where Australians are
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: calling on their leaders to prioritize affordable and reliable energy.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I think we've got a QR code we'll put there
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: on screen if people want to actually sign up to
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: that petition.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: How many people have got signed.
• 26:57
  Speaker 16: Up so far over ten thousand, but we want many more,
• 27:00
  Speaker 16: So please sign up, show Australia's leaders that you want
• 27:04
  Speaker 16: affordable and reliable energy. The more people we have, the
• 27:07
  Speaker 16: more pressure we can put on our government, on Australia's
• 27:10
  Speaker 16: leaders everywhere to put affordability fast.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Zoe, I appreciate it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Zoe Hilton there from Affordable Energy Australia just don't know
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: what kind of energy it is.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Make sure it's reliable and affordable. We've got to take
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: a break.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: On the other side's Tom Switzer will join us. We'll
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: check in on Trump and what's happening in the Middle East.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: Let's return to the war in the Middle East and
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: the Iround backed hooties have struck a cargo ship in
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: the Red Sea, killing six people.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Here's the latest from Fox News.
• 27:42
  Speaker 17: It was shortly after the Yemen based and their Round
• 27:45
  Speaker 17: backed hooties released this video purporting to show rockets being
• 27:49
  Speaker 17: launched toward the port city of Moka, the word emerge
• 27:52
  Speaker 17: of a vessel being struck in the Red Sea, with
• 27:55
  Speaker 17: Yemeny authorities now confirming at least four crew members, three
• 27:59
  Speaker 17: Parkises and one Indonesian were killed, along with two members
• 28:04
  Speaker 17: of the government allied National Resistance forces. The attack emphasizes
• 28:08
  Speaker 17: the growing dual threat to global commerce if Houti terrorists
• 28:12
  Speaker 17: are able to freeze traffic in the Babe Man Dab
• 28:15
  Speaker 17: Street in the same way that Iran has effectively frozen
• 28:19
  Speaker 17: traffic in the Strait of Hormuz.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Let's welcome Tom Switzer again, columnists with the Australian Tom,
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: this is the other side of the Arabian Peninsula, of course,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: but the Hoodi's.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Again backed by Iran.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Iran as in that piece, perhaps demonstrating that it can
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: have a big effect on another key waterway.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 28:39
  Speaker 18: Interestingly, these Shea rebels from Yemen, the Houthi rebels, have
• 28:43
  Speaker 18: been relatively quiet throughout the course of the last five
• 28:46
  Speaker 18: to six weeks of the war, but they're showing here
• 28:48
  Speaker 18: that they're prepared to play hardbore to if not threaten,
• 28:52
  Speaker 18: then shut down. We'll try to shut down the Red Sea,
• 28:55
  Speaker 18: which controls something like twelve percent of global oil and gas.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: At the instigation of Iran. Do we assume more than likely?
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I mean they are in Kahutz.
• 29:05
  Speaker 18: I mean the Iran Sheer militia is not just confined
• 29:07
  Speaker 18: to Hesbla, another sheer militia that have been fighting Suniji
• 29:11
  Speaker 18: hardas over the last decade or so. It's also the
• 29:14
  Speaker 18: Houthi rebels that have been essentially in a civil war
• 29:17
  Speaker 18: with the Saudi backed internationally recognized government of Yemen.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and in the Persian Gulf there are reports of
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: a US forces firing on.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: A Panama flag ship.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: This is the Americans enforcing their blockade on Iranian ports.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Is that an escalation or are we to dismiss this
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: as the region seems to be in a bit of
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: a holding pattern.
• 29:41
  Speaker 18: Well, I think it shows that the United States again
• 29:44
  Speaker 18: is going to great lengths to inflict considerable damage on
• 29:47
  Speaker 18: Iranian exports out of the region, and they are doing
• 29:52
  Speaker 18: to the Iranian ships what the Iranians and their hoothy
• 29:56
  Speaker 18: rebels are trying to do to the Americans. Now, the
• 29:58
  Speaker 18: air campaign clearlyiled to make Iran conform to American expectations.
• 30:04
  Speaker 18: So Trump's calculation now is try to choke the regime
• 30:08
  Speaker 18: economically while he imposes the naval blockade.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Now, let's get to the security concerns with Donald Trump.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Quite incredible.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: When he was in Anchor recently, we knew he switched
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: planes to leave, We knew there were security concerns.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Now there are these reports that he was actually in
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: a third.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Plane, a secreted off Air Force one, in a food
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: company food container. It goes to show that the threats
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: against him must be very, very serious.
• 30:37
  Speaker 18: Well, in some respects this is not surprising because the
• 30:40
  Speaker 18: Iranians are hell bent on revenge against Trump for not
• 30:43
  Speaker 18: just ordering the assassination of the Iatola on February twenty eight,
• 30:47
  Speaker 18: which of course sparked this war. But they're also been
• 30:50
  Speaker 18: carrying long standing grievances since Trump in his first term,
• 30:54
  Speaker 18: ordered the assassination of the COODS General Solomoni in early
• 30:59
  Speaker 18: twenty twenty, so they've got an incentive to go after
• 31:02
  Speaker 18: him for tat if you like. But what is extraordinary
• 31:05
  Speaker 18: is the unconventional way he's been smuggled out of the
• 31:08
  Speaker 18: country of Turkey.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Here's Donald Trump talking about it. I go by secret
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: service and the military.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: They wanted me to go on a different flight, a
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: different plane, equal.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Safety, but they wanted me to do it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: So I do it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 19: I do what they say that plan.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I guess there was a thread out there. I didn't
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: really ask so much about it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: I get a lot of.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Threats, quite phlegmatic there from Donald Trump, which is not
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: his usual posture. Let me drag you back to domestic politics.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I want to get your thoughts on this. I've interviewed you,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: of course in this documentary in the Fight for the Right,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: and looking at the polls today and hearing Pauline Hanson
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: just now and what the opposition the Coalition have been
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: talking about immigration.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Immigration is key to the rise of one nation, and
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: it looks.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Like the Coalition is trying to catch up on that
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: policy area.
• 31:58
  Speaker 18: And the same thing is happening all across continental Europe.
• 32:01
  Speaker 18: You go to France where they're having a presidential election
• 32:04
  Speaker 18: in May of next year. The Pauleen Hansen of France
• 32:08
  Speaker 18: Marine Le penn from National Rally, has a very good
• 32:11
  Speaker 18: chance of winning the presidential election on this issue alone
• 32:14
  Speaker 18: immigration And if you go all across the continent, there
• 32:17
  Speaker 18: is a widespread backlash against illegal immigration but also the
• 32:21
  Speaker 18: high levels of legal mass immigration, precisely what's happening here.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, Tom, catch you next week.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Thanks Chris, Tom Switzer there you can read your stuff
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: in The Australian. But coming up the coalition on immigration,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I'll catch up with the Shadow Housing Minister Andrew Bragg.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: He'll join me.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Let's go back down to canber and catch up with
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: the Shadow Housing Minister Andrew Bragg.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Andrew. Big day for you.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: You spoke at the National Press Club, big focus on immigration.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Your leader Angus Taylor has been very reluctant to put
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: numbers on how much a coalition government would reduce immigration numbers,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: but you've done that today effectively about what forty five
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: thousand fewer people a year than the labor government is
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: shooting for.
• 33:10
  Speaker 14: Well, chase at the moment, they've got at overseas migration
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: figure of around three hundred thousand. And if you want
• 33:17
  Speaker 14: to close the housing gap, and the housing gap really
• 33:20
  Speaker 14: refers to the gap between the number of houses built
• 33:23
  Speaker 14: and the number of people have come into the country,
• 33:25
  Speaker 14: which is about three hundred and fifty four hundred thousand
• 33:27
  Speaker 14: over the last four years, then you need to be
• 33:30
  Speaker 14: come in.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Around one hundred and eighty thousand in order to close
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that gap.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: One hundred and eighty thousand a year or over a year.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a significant reduction you're talking about. And look,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I should add that labor has set targets in the
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: past and always exceeded them. But you still wouldn't be
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: cutting migration by as much as one nation they're suggesting
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: they'll get down to about one forty five thousand a year.
• 34:00
  Speaker 14: Well, I mean, if your objective is to try and
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: close the housing gap, then you need to look at
• 34:05
  Speaker 14: the number of people who are coming into the country,
• 34:07
  Speaker 14: a number of houses being built, and over the four estimates.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: If you had an in the range of one hundred and.
• 34:14
  Speaker 14: Eighty thousand, then you would in fact be able to
• 34:17
  Speaker 14: close that gap that Labour has created.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Through mismanaging migration.
• 34:21
  Speaker 14: So look, I mean, this is not the only way
• 34:23
  Speaker 14: to solve the housing crisis, but it's an important part,
• 34:25
  Speaker 14: and so I thought it was important to try and
• 34:27
  Speaker 14: move the debate along today by putting a range on
• 34:30
  Speaker 14: the table and then we can work out the additional
• 34:33
  Speaker 14: components that are required as well.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now you're no found of one nation and one
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Nation have led the charge in recent times over immigration.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Do you feel that the coalition is following the lead
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: from One Nation here, either because it's what the country
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: needs or because of what you need to do to
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: get back into public favor.
• 34:55
  Speaker 14: The housing crisis is a crisis of Labour's making. They've
• 34:59
  Speaker 14: collapsed applied thirty thousand a year. They have had an
• 35:03
  Speaker 14: unmanaged migration program and that has made life harder for Australians,
• 35:07
  Speaker 14: including New Australians.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: That we want to have as part of our community.
• 35:11
  Speaker 14: Now, the Canadians had to reduce migration to help with
• 35:15
  Speaker 14: their housing crisis and that's been effective. So I mean,
• 35:18
  Speaker 14: this is not an unusual policy suite to have. I
• 35:21
  Speaker 14: just think it reflects poorly on the political class that
• 35:24
  Speaker 14: this has been allowed to run for the last number
• 35:27
  Speaker 14: of decades. There was always going to be a link
• 35:30
  Speaker 14: at some level between migration and housing, and what's happened
• 35:33
  Speaker 14: is it's become particularly pronounced because labor has collapsed housing
• 35:36
  Speaker 14: supply so egregiously.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're squeezing from both ends supply and demand.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: You also spoke more broadly about the problems the Coalition
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: has faced and your party, the Liberal Party in particular
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: over recent years.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Let's have a listen to some of what you said.
• 35:53
  Speaker 14: The Liberal Party, though, has contributed to our malaise by
• 35:56
  Speaker 14: not being prepared to develop enough alternative policy and to
• 36:00
  Speaker 14: wear political risk. As someone who was a backbencher in
• 36:03
  Speaker 14: the Morrison government, I wish I'd done more.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: To stop the madness.
• 36:08
  Speaker 14: I believe the new liberalism that Australian needs isn't socialism
• 36:12
  Speaker 14: and it isn't conservatism seeking to turn back the clock.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I don't think you'd buy too many arguments in saying
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: that the Coalition has been a bit policy shy in
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: the past, but you wouldn't want to turn you back
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: on conservatism.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Would you.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: A lot of liberal voters consider themselves to be conservatives, and.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: That's what we need right now.
• 36:33
  Speaker 14: I mean, I've never been more convinced of the virtue
• 36:35
  Speaker 14: of liberalism and a conservative approach to government, limited government.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Than I have been right now.
• 36:41
  Speaker 14: If you wanted to solve our economic wise, then you
• 36:45
  Speaker 14: would be applying the most liberal approach to business regulation,
• 36:49
  Speaker 14: taxation to get the place growing again, because we're a stagnant,
• 36:53
  Speaker 14: sclerotic economy desperately needing liberalism.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: The problem we have is we haven't been liberal enough.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what we need is small government and it hasn't
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: been argued strongly enough. Thanks for joining us, Andrew, I
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: appreciate it. Andrew Bragg there, Senator Andrew Bragg, who is
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the shadow Housing Minister. I want to stick with migration though,
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: and go to the UK, where the migrant crisis isn't
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: getting any better under the new prime minister there. Of course,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: what was a problem with small boats crossing the English
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Channel seems to have been turbo charged.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Now just take a look at this.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: This is a.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Supposed small boat with more than two hundred people crammed
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: onto it in this mega dinghy.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: They're calling it.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Attempting to break through the UK's borders reform. UK leader
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Nigel Farage has put a price.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: On this vessel.
• 37:41
  Speaker 10: Estimates are that boat laid alone, we'll cast the taxpayer
• 37:45
  Speaker 10: twenty five pounds over the lifetime of those people. But
• 37:49
  Speaker 10: look bigger than I've said it before, I'll say it again.
• 37:52
  Speaker 10: This is a national security emergency and if Andy Burnham
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: can't see that, he's not fit to be Prime minister.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: Joining me live from the UK is writer and broadcaster.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: It's the krak who, it's the Thanks for joining us again.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: This issue is poalpable for Brits. They're seeing it on
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: their television screens every night. Presumably.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's even more than that.
• 38:14
  Speaker 20: It's it's it's gone from the realm of the hypothetical
• 38:18
  Speaker 20: to basically very much reality. I mean Andy Burnham, in
• 38:22
  Speaker 20: the most tone deaf way possible, said that middle class
• 38:26
  Speaker 20: areas need to start doing their fair share and taking
• 38:30
  Speaker 20: in more migrants and asylum seekers. And it's kind of
• 38:34
  Speaker 20: ironic that he's saying this because we already know that
• 38:36
  Speaker 20: our sylum system is extremely broken, and it's it's allowing
• 38:39
  Speaker 20: people like this, all of whom basically are economic migrants.
• 38:43
  Speaker 20: Let's not be let's not be naive about that to
• 38:46
  Speaker 20: take advantage of the system that's also being buoyed and
• 38:49
  Speaker 20: propped up by a charity industrial complex and a horde
• 38:52
  Speaker 20: of human rights lawyers that couldn't get work any other
• 38:55
  Speaker 20: way than trying to find ways to let these kinds
• 38:57
  Speaker 20: of people infiltrate Britain. But what he's touched on is
• 39:01
  Speaker 20: the fact that our immigrant, our silent system was already
• 39:03
  Speaker 20: so broken that you know, the overwhelming majority of refugees
• 39:08
  Speaker 20: are sent to just ten cities across the UK, which
• 39:10
  Speaker 20: if you think about it, it's really concentrated in places
• 39:14
  Speaker 20: like Glasgow, London, really densely populated areas that don't even
• 39:18
  Speaker 20: have the social service bandwidth to take on all of
• 39:21
  Speaker 20: these people. And now instead of saying, actually, we're going
• 39:23
  Speaker 20: to tackle this, he's not only arguing that what we
• 39:26
  Speaker 20: see before our very eyes is not happening, and that
• 39:28
  Speaker 20: the migrant crisis is actually being handled.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Can you believe it?
• 39:31
  Speaker 20: But he's also saying that middle class areas need to
• 39:34
  Speaker 20: take in more of these people, presumably to see their
• 39:37
  Speaker 20: sense of security and house prices all through the floor.
• 39:40
  Speaker 20: So I mean this has shifted from just being something
• 39:44
  Speaker 20: that you see on the news to people seeing these
• 39:46
  Speaker 20: strange men, overwhelmingly men from parts of the world where,
• 39:50
  Speaker 20: let's face it, women's rights and gay rights are just.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Virtually non existent.
• 39:54
  Speaker 20: Women are treated like hairless, perfumed cattle, and gay people
• 39:58
  Speaker 20: would be rightly thrown off buildings if they could get
• 40:00
  Speaker 20: away with it. Not rightly, but in their opinions. And
• 40:03
  Speaker 20: you're just thinking, these are the kinds of people that
• 40:05
  Speaker 20: you want to put in our neighborhoods, in like sort
• 40:08
  Speaker 20: of the areas where most of these politicians are making
• 40:11
  Speaker 20: these decisions and are living themselves and have yet to
• 40:13
  Speaker 20: open their own doors to these people.
• 40:15
  Speaker 11: So it's kind of a.
• 40:17
  Speaker 20: Horror story that you really couldn't write unless you have
• 40:19
  Speaker 20: paid a lot, because the level of ineptitude here is incredible.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I think we've got the Prime Minister speaking on that
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: very topic.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Have a look.
• 40:27
  Speaker 21: We cannot have a situation where it's only the poorest
• 40:30
  Speaker 21: communities in the country that receive all of the dispersal
• 40:35
  Speaker 21: of refugees and asylum see because I do believe all
• 40:38
  Speaker 21: parts of the country need to work to play there,
• 40:42
  Speaker 21: to play their part. It's a challenging issue. We're working
• 40:45
  Speaker 21: out it. We understand people's concerns.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's familiar to us here in Australia as well
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: esther because back here when we had these issues, it
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: was often the virtue signalers from the leafy suburbs who
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: are providing the rights of illegal immigrants, but they never
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: went to live in their suburbs.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: It was the poorer suburbs that had to deal with them.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: But I can see in your context he's he's promising
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: to spread the pain even further. It's a it's going
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: to continue to be a massive issue in British politics
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: and we'll keep in touch with it through you. But
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: just before I let you go, I wanted to get
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: to an update on the droughts. So we're all very
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: familiar with droughts in Australia, but it's creating havoc across
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: the UK and Europe at the moment.
• 41:27
  Speaker 20: Yeah, well, Andy Burnham is now going to chair a
• 41:29
  Speaker 20: Cobra meeting because it's incredible some it seems to happen
• 41:32
  Speaker 20: every year and yet it always takes our politicians by surprise,
• 41:36
  Speaker 20: which again is a kind of aneptitude that you really
• 41:38
  Speaker 20: couldn't write about in a horror film. And now we're
• 41:41
  Speaker 20: having to buy more energy from mainland Europe at a
• 41:45
  Speaker 20: higher price because get this, our solar farms are not
• 41:50
  Speaker 20: don't don't work very.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Well in the heat.
• 41:52
  Speaker 20: Completely the purpose of a solar farm. I mean, honestly,
• 41:57
  Speaker 20: you can't write this stuff.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Honestly, you cannot write.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: I saw a lot of solar panels in Germany and
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: the Czech Republic over the winter and they're all covered
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: in snow. I didn't think that was a very very
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: wise investment in electricity. Thanks for joining us, Yes, so
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I appreciate it. That's correctly alive.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: From the UK.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: We've got to get to a break on the other
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: side the Wednesday wrangle with Justin and James talk about
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: taxpayers talking out hundreds of millions of dollars on rent
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: for empty public service officers. Let's get into the Wednesday
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: wrangle with James Bolt here on the desk with me
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: and Justin Smith, broadcaster and commentator joining us from Melbourne. Look,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: let's get through this quickly, melongate. I don't want a
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: long expose on this from each of you, though. Is
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: OLBO got a problem here or have we all made
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: it up?
• 42:50
  Speaker 19: Justin we do have a problem with politicians trying to
• 42:57
  Speaker 19: be funny. I say this to all the politicians for
• 43:01
  Speaker 19: the future. We don't need your entertainment. It's not what
• 43:04
  Speaker 19: you're there for. And every time they try, they fail,
• 43:08
  Speaker 19: and yet, bless their hearts, they keep coming back and
• 43:11
  Speaker 19: trying again. I don't think it's going to cause any
• 43:15
  Speaker 19: hassles between Australia and Japan. I think that's been a
• 43:18
  Speaker 19: little bit overcooked, but it is embarrassing. I'd rather see
• 43:21
  Speaker 19: the prime ministers do something else to be Yeah.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: I just think it's embarrassing James to see these so
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: called feminists on Labour's front bench to pretend that there
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: was no double entendre here.
• 43:29
  Speaker 22: I know, and you just you feel for them, and
• 43:31
  Speaker 22: sometimes don't you You go like they would love to
• 43:34
  Speaker 22: be ripping into anyone else who was in Prime Minister Albanesi.
• 43:37
  Speaker 22: They know they'd get the phone call the second it happened.
• 43:39
  Speaker 22: You mentioned if Prime Minister Albanesi, if he's got a
• 43:41
  Speaker 22: problem here. I am a little skeptical because remember when
• 43:45
  Speaker 22: the Cali Minogue story was the big takeaway from bush
• 43:47
  Speaker 22: dap podcast. His approval ratings in the Next News twenty
• 43:50
  Speaker 22: four polsts went up. So I do think like, there are,
• 43:54
  Speaker 22: you know, to be honest, an unfortunate amount of Australians
• 43:57
  Speaker 22: who just look at thiscourage him.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not encouraged him.
• 44:00
  Speaker 22: I think it's stupid. I think it was diamond. He
• 44:02
  Speaker 22: should apologize and it was all terrible and I can't
• 44:04
  Speaker 22: believe you did it. But there are some people out
• 44:06
  Speaker 22: there that look at it and go like, hey, he's one.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Of us, and that's you know.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I must admit it did occur to me.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Let's have a look at this world leader, this European
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: prime minister, the Prime Minister of Italy. It did occur
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: to me that it would be a bit of a
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: problem if we get those pictures up. I'm trying to
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: show you the Prime Minister of Italy. There she is,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister of Italy. Georgia Maloney. I thought now
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: spelled m.
• 44:30
  Speaker 21: E l O N. I.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: I thought this could be a problem if Anthony ALBERIZI
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: ever has to deal with her. And the brilliant Johannes
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Leak in The Australian this morning has picked up on
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: this thought brilliantly. He's got Tony Burke saying, look at
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Italy's tackled immigration. Maybe we should ask Maloney how she
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: did it, and Albo's just.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Wha Maloney, I like the sound of that. Pretty He's
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: right for the you'll get in trouble, he's right for
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: the picking on this stuff.
• 44:58
  Speaker 19: Als sure, you're going to get in strife. Mate, if
• 45:03
  Speaker 19: you talk like this and show cartoons like that, you're
• 45:06
  Speaker 19: going to get in trouble. You're going to be the conversation.
• 45:08
  Speaker 19: Don't do the hands time.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: It's all about the hand movement. It's all about the
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: lack of an apology.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Let us move on. I love this story.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: We all know that public servants are leading the charge
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: when it comes to working from home. They've struck union
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: deals with the federal government give them the right to
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: work from home. But James, it doesn't stop us paying
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: squillions for the officers that.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: They don't turn up at.
• 45:32
  Speaker 22: Yeah, I'm worried we're going to learn the wrong lesson
• 45:33
  Speaker 22: from a story like that. How much money we're paying
• 45:36
  Speaker 22: for officers that are sitting downs because they're all working
• 45:37
  Speaker 22: from home. Because naturally the inclination is going, oh well,
• 45:40
  Speaker 22: why are we paying for all these officers? Then the
• 45:42
  Speaker 22: idea has to be stop working from home. Yeah, thing,
• 45:46
  Speaker 22: we want to be paying for these officers, but you
• 45:48
  Speaker 22: have to turn up and go there.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, This is my view.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: We all want flexibility, justin, but for people to do
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: their job properly and to the best of their ability,
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: and to be frankly, for their own well being and socialization,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: we need them to turn up at work.
• 46:04
  Speaker 19: Now, there's a lot of good work that gets done
• 46:06
  Speaker 19: at home by people of work at home. Some of
• 46:08
  Speaker 19: them have in the private sector, some of them are
• 46:12
  Speaker 19: working on the public dime. The problem here is we
• 46:15
  Speaker 19: shouldn't be panealizing the workers. If there's a problem with
• 46:18
  Speaker 19: too much office space, then surely people in charge of
• 46:23
  Speaker 19: renting these teachers should be They should be moving. They
• 46:29
  Speaker 19: should be they should be Yeah, he gave me the
• 46:31
  Speaker 19: idea they should be moving with Next time with the workers.
• 46:35
  Speaker 19: As the workers work from home, have less office space.
• 46:38
  Speaker 19: Next next to you, that's the solution. Next justin, you left.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: These are going to be telling us that the government
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: should be building studies for public servants so that they
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: have their offices at home and the tax pace funder
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: because if you're spending.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: If you spend.
• 46:56
  Speaker 22: Idea, if you spend the money on these great office spaces,
• 46:59
  Speaker 22: and then you go will have less good office spaces
• 47:01
  Speaker 22: to make sure that we're not saving money. That's going
• 47:04
  Speaker 22: to encourage more working from home because no one wants
• 47:06
  Speaker 22: to go to the worse offices, which is going to
• 47:08
  Speaker 22: lead to even worse officers. Some of the every public
• 47:10
  Speaker 22: servant's working home.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Dear, talking about home, we've got a housing crisis in
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: this country now. The Commonwealth Bank announced a mega profit today,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: but they've revealed that their number of mortgages being written
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: has plunged by fifteen percent and they're starting to look
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: out for problems with mortgage stress in the future. Here's
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: the chief executive of the Commonworth Bank back common.
• 47:35
  Speaker 23: It's just an important feature of banking that you also
• 47:38
  Speaker 23: have to prepare for the worse, even though it's incredibly unlikely,
• 47:43
  Speaker 23: and there's different ways that we do that. We do
• 47:45
  Speaker 23: that through what's known as stress testing, both as an
• 47:48
  Speaker 23: individual institution, we do that at an industry level, and
• 47:51
  Speaker 23: also when we report, as we did today, we talk
• 47:54
  Speaker 23: about our loan loss provisions.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: That full interview with Ross Greenwood on the Business weekend,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: but justin if the number of mortgages being written is
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: down by fifteen percent.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: How is labor helping young home buyers into the housing market.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense.
• 48:15
  Speaker 19: It's an extraordinary it's an extraordinary whack. And the problem
• 48:18
  Speaker 19: is that feeds in again to the next time around,
• 48:22
  Speaker 19: doesn't it. Because when confidence drops, it drops again. It
• 48:26
  Speaker 19: keeps dropping. And I don't know if we can see
• 48:29
  Speaker 19: a way out of this, and certainly the plan isn't working.
• 48:32
  Speaker 19: But I don't see. I don't see how we get
• 48:35
  Speaker 19: out of this. I like the fact that the bank
• 48:37
  Speaker 19: can still make a buck. Gee, they never fail.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Do they a dollar for them?
• 48:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Thank god, the bank's make a buck.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: It will be a pretty bad situation if the banks
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: weren't making money, given most of us.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Have got our super tied up in them and the
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: rest of it, and they're a pillar of the whole system.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: I'll come to you in a moment, James. I just
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: want to show you. I want to jump to.
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: Gen Z struggling with the cost of living, housing crisis
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: being part of it.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: There's just have a look at what some of them
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: had to.
• 49:02
  Speaker 24: Say the housing crisis, and like just the income of
• 49:09
  Speaker 24: young people versus how much you have to pay for
• 49:12
  Speaker 24: rent is very different now than it was for older generations.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: I feel like we have a harder with that economy
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 49:19
  Speaker 19: Everything's like so expensive and it's harder for like our
• 49:23
  Speaker 19: age people to get jobs and stuff as well.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: So like so we have arder a lot of pessimism there, James.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: People just a little younger than you.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just a little younger.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: This is the main thing in society.
• 49:34
  Speaker 22: Like when you have young people that are going into
• 49:36
  Speaker 22: adulthood and they feel genuinely pessimistic about where the world
• 49:39
  Speaker 22: is going, and they don't feel that they're going to
• 49:40
  Speaker 22: start getting ahead. Suddenly ideas we thought were done with
• 49:44
  Speaker 22: start to get a little enticing to people. So, you know,
• 49:47
  Speaker 22: just socialism, socialism, communism on the other side on far right,
• 49:52
  Speaker 22: Like these ideas start getting quite popular if every solution
• 49:55
  Speaker 22: you've been given is.
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Cheafly right, But don't worry because the labor and pays
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: are very happy.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: Here's uh Cara cookers and I'm the member for Bonnam.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I hadn't been for garten a Doo. I've
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: been married a long time ago. Where did you come from?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: When did you go?
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Where did you come from? Cottena doo? Justin James, thanks
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: for your thoughts.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: We all think there's a few problems around, but that's
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: the way they're spending your tax dollars.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I'll see you tomorrow night. Here's Peter Kredlin.