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Bad Sides in Paradise with Wells Adams · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: I'm ready. This is the Ben and Ashley I almost
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  Speaker 1: famous podcasts with on our radio. Oh Ashley, still gallivanting
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  Speaker 1: around somewhere far far away, you know, having love, share
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  Speaker 1: and love, seeing love making love making love. It looks
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  Speaker 1: like they're having a great time. Um and so one
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  Speaker 1: of the people that I love the most is now
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  Speaker 1: co hosting this podcast with me this week. Wells Adams, Hey, buddy,
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  Speaker 1: Wells Adams. If you have never heard of him is
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  Speaker 1: an incredibly attractive man, uh, funny, charismatic, empathetic, good listener, uh,
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  Speaker 1: positive to be around, and one of my favorite people
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  Speaker 1: in the world. And I'm not the only one who
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  Speaker 1: believes that a lot of people love Wells Adams and
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  Speaker 1: we're lucky enough to have them this week. But well,
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  Speaker 1: as I'm gonna ask one thing of you, I want
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  Speaker 1: to give you the freedom to speak openly and honestly
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast about all the weirdos and Bachelor in Paradise.
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  Speaker 1: Be mean, okay, but can you do that? Yeah? But
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if UM you wanting me to speak
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  Speaker 1: freely Trump's what ABC wants me to say on your show.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's be nice, then I'll just be
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  Speaker 1: Let's be honest, let's be caring, let's be considerate. But
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  Speaker 1: also let's get into it before we get in the
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Paradis. I want to talk about one thing before
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  Speaker 1: UM we started recording. Wells and I were just talking
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  Speaker 1: about the idea of reading. UM and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: my friends today, well, they read a lot of books
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  Speaker 1: and they tell me I read this book, in this
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  Speaker 1: book and this book, and I love to read. It's
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorite things. I just quite honestly, and
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's an excuse, but it's true. I don't
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of the time to reading about a
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  Speaker 1: chapter a night before bed. And then I find out
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  Speaker 1: that my friends, one of them is my best friend, Corey,
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  Speaker 1: who I love dearly, one of the wisest men I know.
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  Speaker 1: His wife listen to podcast He doesn't read. He listens
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  Speaker 1: to audible books. Do we consider that reading. No, but
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  Speaker 1: you're still absorbing the information. So so I do not read.
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  Speaker 1: Can't read severely dyslexic, by the way, So you don't
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  Speaker 1: really know that about me, which is funny because I
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  Speaker 1: got into a line of business where had to read
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  Speaker 1: a lot of copy. And how I got it reading
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  Speaker 1: copy was I would kind of see what it was about,
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  Speaker 1: and then I would just say it how I would
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  Speaker 1: say it. And then people like that more because it
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  Speaker 1: seems more authentic than um if you're just like reading
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  Speaker 1: line by line, you know um. So So when I
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  Speaker 1: was a kid, I was like heavily medicated. I shouldn't laugh,
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  Speaker 1: but it's true. I was. I was super a d
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  Speaker 1: d super a d H d um and they gave
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  Speaker 1: me all the riddling in the world, and I had
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  Speaker 1: to listen to everything on tape because that's how like
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  Speaker 1: I could absorb information. So literally, I go through a
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  Speaker 1: book a week on audible. This isn't even an audible ad,
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  Speaker 1: is it? You guys? Are we doing that one? But anyways,
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  Speaker 1: use our promo code wells just like but yeah, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I and also I live in l A and you're
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  Speaker 1: in traffic all to live long day, and so I'm
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  Speaker 1: just sitting there listening. I'll listen to your podcast and
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  Speaker 1: listen to my podcast, and then I listened to books
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  Speaker 1: on tape, so currently listening to The Shining, which but
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  Speaker 1: I never had lists or read The Shining so good.
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  Speaker 1: Stephen King's amazing. So it's it's actually like audible books
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  Speaker 1: are a huge like benefit to your life. Listeners, we
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  Speaker 1: want to ask you email us have been Ashley, I
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  Speaker 1: heard me dot com or hashtag almost famous podcast. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, listeners, you've been awesome. I've asked like I
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  Speaker 1: think two direct questions in the last three weeks of
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  Speaker 1: this podcast, and I bet we average maybe a hundred
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  Speaker 1: responses on Twitter that I get to read and they're
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  Speaker 1: really fun. They don't always agree with me, but I
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  Speaker 1: want to know if you think listen to audible books
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  Speaker 1: can be considered reading or should we rephrase it and
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  Speaker 1: say I've listened to that book. It's semantics. It really
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. But I get a little bit envious of
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  Speaker 1: my friends when they say they've read so much and
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  Speaker 1: they just feel a lot smarter than I am, and
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  Speaker 1: really they're just listening. Well you can do that, do man,
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  Speaker 1: listen to a book on tape and then have your
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  Speaker 1: chapter or night before you go to bed, and you're
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  Speaker 1: fine to close this conversation. And it wasn't I have
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  Speaker 1: to admit one more thing to you. Um, there's this
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  Speaker 1: app that you can get and you can like access
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  Speaker 1: your local library and so you can read audiobooks in
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  Speaker 1: your local library. And it was so hard for me
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  Speaker 1: to figure out that I gave up because I don't
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  Speaker 1: get technology. I'm terrible, like really bad at it. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I don't do it. Anyways. Hey, uh, well,
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  Speaker 1: you got a front row seat to Paradise this year.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't seen much of you. I want to start
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  Speaker 1: this conversation by saying, why is that I don't like that?
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  Speaker 1: It's not fun? Well, I agree, it's not fun because
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  Speaker 1: I'm there for a long time, and I'm putting a
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  Speaker 1: lot of hours, So I'm like, why should be on
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  Speaker 1: this stuff? Um? But in all fairness of show isn't
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  Speaker 1: about me. Um, there's no drama surrounding me. If the
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  Speaker 1: if the show is about love and drama, then why
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  Speaker 1: would I be on it because I very rarely are
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  Speaker 1: involved in either of those things, you know. Um. And
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  Speaker 1: I also think that I am the guy that gives
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  Speaker 1: a lot of pull advice, Like my my role on
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  Speaker 1: the show is to give people advice and what they
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  Speaker 1: should do. And they showed a little bit of like
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  Speaker 1: in the first two episodes, and then it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: fallen off to the wayside night. And I think that's
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  Speaker 1: because I think that the perception is that people are
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  Speaker 1: making these decisions for themselves, and if they keep on
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  Speaker 1: showing me telling people what they should do, then it
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  Speaker 1: just seems like I'm almost like creating storyline, which I'm
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  Speaker 1: just really just being like, I think you should on
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  Speaker 1: a date because dates are fun. They're always fun over there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like giving that those pieces of advice, and
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  Speaker 1: I think if it just keeps on happening there, the
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  Speaker 1: audience might be like, well, everyone just listening to what
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  Speaker 1: Wells has to say, and they're not making any decisions
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  Speaker 1: for themselves. That's how I'm rationalizing in my brain for
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  Speaker 1: my ego. Well, I don't think your ego should be
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  Speaker 1: hit because and we'll stop grilling you with questions. We're
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  Speaker 1: co hosts together here in a second, but I have
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  Speaker 1: so many questions for you. Um, They've actually be back
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  Speaker 1: now for what three seasons, Yeah, as the bartender. So
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  Speaker 1: there's obviously a lot of benefit to having you there.
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  Speaker 1: That's you are probably the first that I can remember,
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  Speaker 1: like cast member to transfer for over to a more
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  Speaker 1: hosting or like on television producer role, and you've done
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  Speaker 1: it successfully, they ask you to be there, they find
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  Speaker 1: a benefit in it. Somehow, they just don't. I think
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying is they use you when they need you,
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  Speaker 1: and right now they don't need you. Yeah. I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I live in credit role, which I'm totally
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  Speaker 1: fine with, right. Like that's so for people I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Credit role is like at the end of the show,
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  Speaker 1: when they're like doing all the credits of all the
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  Speaker 1: producers and stuff, it's like a silly thing that I've
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  Speaker 1: said or done. One of them was like Derek and
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  Speaker 1: I showing people how to kiss, which I didn't. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that was funny and I forgot that we had
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  Speaker 1: done that, but you know, and then you know in
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  Speaker 1: the episode last night, it's, um, it's what we're playing
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  Speaker 1: this like silly game and Demi doesn't know who Nelson
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  Speaker 1: Mandela is, which is funny but also very sad. So
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  Speaker 1: like if I live in like the funny uh comedic
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  Speaker 1: world of credit role, totally fine with that. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: do wish that Like in the last episode, there was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of like Derek goes through a lot and
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  Speaker 1: like full transparency. Derek and I are very very close.
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  Speaker 1: He was my roommate on the bat sirette Um. This
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  Speaker 1: is you know he I was on. I was the
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  Speaker 1: bartender when he got engaged to Taylor. This is our
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  Speaker 1: third show together. We've been good friends for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: And there are a lot of conversations that Derek and
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  Speaker 1: I had, and I think for some for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the conversations I have with people, I don't really
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  Speaker 1: know them that well, so I'm just giving them my
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  Speaker 1: advice as someone who's been there for a while. What
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  Speaker 1: bummed me out about this most recent episode, and there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't the conversation that I had with him as truly
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  Speaker 1: like one of my good friends, and how I thought
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  Speaker 1: he should be going about this and and how well
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was doing despite all the crap that
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  Speaker 1: he was going through. Um so that bummed me out.
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  Speaker 1: But can we just get a round of applause for
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  Speaker 1: how good Derek looks? By the way talk Yeah, he's uh,
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  Speaker 1: we have so much talking about with Derek. Derek is
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  Speaker 1: now just blowing up Twitter. Two last questions for you, Well,
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  Speaker 1: one is, uh, you know we became friends. I forget
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  Speaker 1: when probably Vegas a few years ago, immediately like truly
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  Speaker 1: did fall in love with you. I love you as
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  Speaker 1: a human. And it's odd that sometimes when life for
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  Speaker 1: me is being shook, like when I'm in a in
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  Speaker 1: a place, that there's two moments for us that I
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  Speaker 1: remember that I was in l A for one, and
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  Speaker 1: we're in Vegas from it's I do reach it like
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  Speaker 1: one of the first people in the mind. I have
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  Speaker 1: great friendships, close friendships, but you are one of the
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  Speaker 1: first people that I think of when I go, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I know somebody's gonna listen, discuss and and be honest
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  Speaker 1: with me. Through it all and probably and love me,
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  Speaker 1: maybe more at the end of it than even the
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the conversation. I want to know on Paradise,
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  Speaker 1: you walk a thin line. I've seen it in my
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  Speaker 1: friendship with you that you're really good at giving advice,
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  Speaker 1: But you walk a thin line between being just the
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  Speaker 1: guy that knows it all and the friend that can relate.
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  Speaker 1: Where does your source of wisdom come from it? When
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  Speaker 1: you walk into these conversations and you see people doing
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  Speaker 1: the weirdest things, fighting on the beach, um, love triangles.
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  Speaker 1: You do it in a way that I watch and
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  Speaker 1: I admire because it's free of judgment, it's based in love,
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  Speaker 1: and it works. And I want to know where that
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  Speaker 1: where that insight comes from. I don't know, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I agree with you on that, but
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  Speaker 1: thank you. UM No, here's the thing. You're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to agree with me to answer this question. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't want you to be humble. That is a very
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  Speaker 1: widely accepted thought by most people. UM. And if anybody
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  Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't know you. And so for the sake of
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  Speaker 1: this question, believe what I just said. So I'll answer
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  Speaker 1: this to you. UM, I have the helicopter view of
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  Speaker 1: the show. And I say that being I get every
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  Speaker 1: side of the story. Everyone has their own narrative in
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  Speaker 1: their head and how they see things and how they
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  Speaker 1: think things are being perceived. Um but everyone comes to
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  Speaker 1: me and just that's also part of like my role
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  Speaker 1: is to be like I don't when I show up
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  Speaker 1: to work and on Paradise, I have no idea what's
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  Speaker 1: going on. Like I wasn't there the night before, or
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't there in the morning, so I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. So I'll be like, okay, so hold
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  Speaker 1: on what's happening, and then everyone will kind of download
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  Speaker 1: me on the information that when you get all that,
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  Speaker 1: you get everyone's perspective. And then someone comes with a
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  Speaker 1: like serious question about whatever issue it is, I can
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  Speaker 1: answer it honestly because I know how everyone feels and
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  Speaker 1: I know what. I can like sense the room right
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  Speaker 1: like I can read the room, and I know like,
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  Speaker 1: hey man, everyone's upset, you know, like you need to
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  Speaker 1: go fix this, or like, um so and so really
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  Speaker 1: has feelings for you. And I know that because seven
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  Speaker 1: people told me about that, you know. Um So, I
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  Speaker 1: think that I'm knowledgeable, not because I'm I'm having this
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  Speaker 1: innate ability to like figure out things. I'm knowledgeable because
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  Speaker 1: I just have more information than everybody else does. Does
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  Speaker 1: that make sense? Uh? It does. I'd also say to
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  Speaker 1: kind of close that thought would be that there is
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  Speaker 1: something that I admire in you that if I was
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  Speaker 1: the bartender, I don't think I would have every single
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  Speaker 1: person from that's on the cast becoming to me with
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  Speaker 1: sensitive information. And I think that is something that you've
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  Speaker 1: done well at creating a safe place for them to
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  Speaker 1: tell you these things. And as a result, you're better
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  Speaker 1: at your job and better at what you do in
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  Speaker 1: your role because people feel safe to speak with you.
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  Speaker 1: And for three years you have been able to do
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  Speaker 1: that at an intimate level, at a close level, to
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  Speaker 1: where people still trust you, believe in you, and come
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  Speaker 1: to you for I mean, I would still as a person,
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  Speaker 1: as a human come to you outside of the show
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  Speaker 1: for advice and guidance. And I think that it is
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  Speaker 1: something too that we shouldn't overlook and I'm consistently impressed
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  Speaker 1: with that on the show. For you. Um Well, to
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  Speaker 1: switch gears a little bit, you have been around for
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  Speaker 1: three years. We have a mutual friend in along Gail,
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  Speaker 1: who we love and respect dearly. Uh. We've gotten a
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  Speaker 1: lot of emails and some tweets here over the last
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  Speaker 1: few weeks as drama continues to unfold in this show,
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel like we have a lot of
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  Speaker 1: things to celebrate yet I think we will at the end,
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  Speaker 1: I hope. Um, what have you seen the impact of
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  Speaker 1: along Gail being gone from your seat? Long? Gail was
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  Speaker 1: the executive producer, really one of the He was the
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  Speaker 1: first to kind of help start Bachelor in Paradise. This
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  Speaker 1: is his first season no longer being with the show.
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Paradise was his baby. The show moved on and
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  Speaker 1: so did he. But there has to be some impact.
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  Speaker 1: I would agree with that, um, And you can kind
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  Speaker 1: of feel it when we were filming as well. Um,
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  Speaker 1: just because he was such a powerful and a big presence.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of people, uh from the cast really look
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  Speaker 1: up to him and respect him. Like my my thing
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  Speaker 1: with the lawn always was I always besides the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he looks like Nostre Damas, he also kind of
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  Speaker 1: like acts like Nostre Damas, you know, like he's got
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  Speaker 1: those eyes that you're just like, oh my God, Like
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  Speaker 1: you can see into my soul. Um and he was
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  Speaker 1: just like very very wise guy. But the thing that
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  Speaker 1: I think everyone was concerned about is that and if
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  Speaker 1: you follow along on any of his platforms, you can
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  Speaker 1: realize that he's a very funny person. Um. He's you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's like a stand up he's he's a comedic guy.
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  Speaker 1: And I think people what people were concerned about was
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  Speaker 1: that that was gonna be something that was lost from
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  Speaker 1: the show. Um. And I don't know if I think
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  Speaker 1: it has or it hasn't, because we're still kind of
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of it. But Alon liked a lot
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  Speaker 1: of like the kind of funky bits, and like I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to think of some of them, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: them revolved around me, Like my my part in Paradise
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  Speaker 1: was the brain child of me and a Lawn's friendship. Um,
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  Speaker 1: So like a lot of like scallop fingers and puppets
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  Speaker 1: and like all that kind of stuff that we did
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  Speaker 1: in the past. I was kind of, like I guess
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  Speaker 1: people will say, like hokey bits. Um, we knew that
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  Speaker 1: those would go away because he wasn't kind of steering
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  Speaker 1: the ship anymore. Um. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: like the show is serious, but still is funny. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like the opening credits are still funny. They're still funny
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  Speaker 1: things that are happening. So I mean, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think after seeing a lawn exit? You know,
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  Speaker 1: Alans For anybody out there listening, Alan has always been
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  Speaker 1: this figure that vat Nation has been kind of, uh
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  Speaker 1: just amazed by and confused by, because he is this
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  Speaker 1: massive figure that stands like what five eight like, He
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  Speaker 1: just like takes up a room with his presence and
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  Speaker 1: you don't quite understand why. And I've never been able
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  Speaker 1: to put my finger on what makes him a lan,
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  Speaker 1: what makes him able to all, you know, be within
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  Speaker 1: the draw Mamma sometimes even helped create the drama. Yet
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  Speaker 1: trusted in Loves consistently year of a year. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: an amazing quality. I mean, it was so amazing that
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  Speaker 1: Heat was the one that officiated Ashley and Jared's wedding,
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  Speaker 1: Like and my bet, Alan was semi responsible for a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the tears that we saw Ashley have in
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  Speaker 1: her time on the Bachelor, But yet she still trusts
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  Speaker 1: loves and admires him, and I think there's a good
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  Speaker 1: reason for that. I feel the same way about him,
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  Speaker 1: But I don't know if we see I think what
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing this season, and I don't know if this
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  Speaker 1: is a lan or what. It's been really hard for
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  Speaker 1: me personally and these are my friends to really root
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  Speaker 1: for any of these people consistently, because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: there's been so many ups and downs and so much
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  Speaker 1: drama and wild changes that the storytelling has lacked a
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: bit and it's just kind of resorted back to the
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: drama every week. I feel like I'm holding onto the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: draw Mamma and I and and instead of the celebrating
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: the love stories that in the past have continued to
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: attract me to Paradise. Yeah, I think we're maybe at
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: a turning point um in the season for now going forward,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be like a lot of love shown. I
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: mean I think that, like we're now through the muck
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: and the mire of the Hannah and Dylan and Blake things,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: So like that's something that everyone's gonna be able to celebrate.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, Clay and Nicole finally are able to see
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: where their love story goes because Christian and Jordan's are
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: effectively gone. Um, you know, I I there Dean said
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: no to a date so he's allowed to like continue
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: things with Kalen. So I think that we're act we're
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: at that pivotal point where like things can actually start
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: to coalesce and and we can follow those love stories. Um,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: but I kind of agree with you. You know, like
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: there there's been a lot of like character assassination for
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the most part on the show this year, and not
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of, um, character praising. I think is that
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: is what I'm concerned about a little bit, because like,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: you know, Blake looks bad, Blake's not a bad guy.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Blake looks bad, but he's not really that bad of
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: a guy. You know, Like I'm waiting for his storyline
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: to like look good again, you know, like I would
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: need a story arc from him. Um. And I don't know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong. I'm hoping that changes. I'm
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: excited for it to change. But that's how I feels
• 18:26
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• 18:29
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• 20:35
  Speaker 1: break down this week's episode of Bachelor in Paradise. We
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: had a cliffinger last week. We saw a fight going
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: down between Jordan's and Christian while Clay sat on a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: bed calmly, and it was all over. I don't think
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: it was actually over, Nicole, I would argue, I think
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of the tweeds and stuff, and we're referencing
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that this was over Nicole. I think this was kind
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: of catalyzing back at men till all when Christian got
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: up and had his moment in front of everybody when
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: he was gone on night one. I think Jordan just
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: doesn't like that. I don't think Jordan really enjoys anybody
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: else having their moment when they don't deserve it. And
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: so the fight happens. It's a legitimate fight. And and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the thing that interests me wells as you're there, like
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: what is the kind of the environment feeling like as
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: these two men are throwing each other around a beach? Okay,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: so to like talk about Clay real quick. Do you
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: remember in the Wedding Singer when um Adam Sandler's kind
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: of like just losing it and there's that one moment
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: where the other wedding singer like pulls outside the curtain
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and goes they're losing their minds and I'm reaping all
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the benefits. I feel like that's what is Clay's is
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: sitting there being like, oh my god, looking good. Now
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you know you're not wrong, You're actually right. You probably
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: what I mean, Because Clay's a smart dude. He's probably
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: sitting there going everything I hope for in this moment
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: is happening right now. Yeah, of course. Um. Also, I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: feel like if Clay touched either of those guys, they
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: might explode. He is a monster of a man, so like,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know if those are if his fists are
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: registered weapons, but I think that there they definitely could
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: like hold up in court, that that would be an issue.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: So he was just like nope, staying back. Um, okay,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So I talked about this on my other podcast, and
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: I can kind of do the same thing here. Um. Unfortunately,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think Jordan's is reading the room very well.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I think that he did a better job of it
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: last season, and so effectively, Jordan's doing what he did
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: last season against Chicken. Remember, Chicken was kind of like
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: chipping away at his relationship with with Jenna, kind of
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: always kind of being annoying. So he brought Jenna this
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: giant teddy bear or dog or whatever, and Jordan's in
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: that crazy floral one piece, walks out and grabs a
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: dog and throws it into the ocean. And because he
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: read the room and he knew that kind of like
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Chicken was in on the joke, he like Chicken never
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: really cared. Um, Chicken was just always kind of kind
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: of messing with Jordan and never was taking it seriously.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Now Jordan does the exact same thing right now. His
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: big moment last year was se him throwing this giant
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: dog into the ocean. So he's like, all right, if
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: it worked before, it'll work again. I'm gonna go throw
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: this giant pinata into the ocean. His problem is that
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: he didn't read the room very well, because Christian doesn't
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: is not in on the joke. He's like, dude, don't
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: mess my piniata, Like that's messed up right, And unfortunately
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: things go really really wrong. And the truth is that
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: that was a like in real time, that was a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: very scary moment. That was the like the Joe and
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Leo fight was not as um as not as scary
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: as that one. Because the way that Jordan brings Christian down,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: he could have really hurt Christian, like million dollar baby
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: style off of that um that little day bed. There's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: a step there that I don't even know if you
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: see when you're watching on TV. He could hit his head.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: He could have done something and it could have been
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: really really bad. Also confirm or disconfirmed, did Jordan's like
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: wrestle in high school, because that was a pretty a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: pretty crazy move he pulled on Christian. A lot of
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: anger was behind that move, Like, yeah, I only am
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: able to pull off that move with any other man
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: if like I have in a drone on adrenaline rush
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of anger that has been built up for a bit. Yeah.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: And then and then if you thought that, like there
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: was a lot of pent up aggression and anger with
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Jordan's then all of a sudden, Christian is on PCP
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and he's like able to like turn over a VW bug.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Seventeen million producers and security guards jump on him and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: he's like a grease pig out there. He gets away
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and and we were like, oh my god. And there
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: was a moment. If you watch that episode, you see
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: me run out and I run about fifteen feet and
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: then I say to myself, what the hell am I doing?
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: What am I gonna be able to do? I'm gonna
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: go back to the bar, And then I got there.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: But you give it a good tempt. I appreciate the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, those are scary moments. It's like you said,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: I think even watching the episode, I felt like Christian
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: did hit his head on my step. I don't know
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: if he did or not, but this is something built
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: up to where all of a sudden, the whole energy
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: of Paradise has to change. Do you feel like these
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: moments connect the cast or do they contin like do
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: they isolate the cast even more? You know, I don't know.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, like Christian was so new to the scene
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that I don't think anyone cared either way about him
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: coming or going. I think for Jordan's he's known as
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: kind of the guy that kind of does this stuff.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: So everyone was just like, I mean, you know, it's
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: car it's par for the course, I suppose. Um. I
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: remember last year with the Joe Leo fight, it definitely
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: brought everybody together, like there was a bad guy and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: a good guy and everyone knew which side to be on. Um,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: this one was just kind of it was just it
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: was just odd in in general and like really kind
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: of scary. So I don't know, I didn't love that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Jordan did that, and I just wish that if he
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: had done it, he had done it in a floral
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: one piece again. You know, I really, I really do
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: though this. I mean, there is humor to me. As
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: scary as the moment was, there was humor to me
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and watching all the guys sit on the day bed
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and watch us go down, including Clay. Like you said,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, Clay could have ended this thing at any
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: moment if he wanted to, and they sat there, and
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I do think at some level Clay was saying, well,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I'm a football player. I've seen aggression, I've seen violence
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: like this isn't scary for me. I've been around it
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: most of my career, and what ever is happening here
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: is ultimately going to end up really good for me.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: And I want to tie this then into the Hannah,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Gy and Blake scenario with Dylan. While I'm watching this
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: episode and while I'm watching the cocktail party, Dylan feels
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like he's opposite of Clay and to where he's watching
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: from a distance and seeing this go down with Hannah
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: and Blake and going this isn't good for me. Something
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: here is happening that is ultimately not going to end
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: up in my favor, especially why Blake is, you know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: having all these Mariachi band singers come out and play
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: for him at any point? For you, did you doubt
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: that Dylan and Hannah were ultimately going to be standing
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: together at the end of that night. Yes, I doubted
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: it for a while. I I would say that the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: guy that I gave the most advice to was Dylan
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: because I could really relate to the guy that was
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: like going after the girl that's like probably way out
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: of his leg and I was just like, all right,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: these are things you gotta do to make this workout
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: for you. That the problem was that there was what
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: would that advice? Ben? I want to what what what
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: are some things that you would do to get to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: back somewhere, to land somebody way out of your league? Um,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta go look at like early
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: tweets between Sarah and I supposed to figure out exactly
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: what I did. A lot of my stuff for him
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: was like this is gonna be hard for you. And
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I think that that the thing that you're gonna be
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: able to that you're gonna have to do if you
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: want to come out on top, is you're gonna have
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to be steady Eddie this entire time, and you're going
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: to go through the ringer and it's gonna be bad
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: because guess what, she's like the queen of Paradise right now,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Like if there if you could embody what Paradise looks
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: like it's Hannah Gye and like just beautiful, supermodel blonde
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: walking on the beach. Like you gotta know that if
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you're going after the thing that's almost unattainable, everyone else
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: is gonna be going after it. Two, So you gotta
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: be chill, um. And that's like in that episode where
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: he's like watching them make out and I was like, dude,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: turn around, look at me. Don't watch this anymore because
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: it's just gonna get in your head. And we had
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of those conversations like just be chill, Just
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: be chill. The issue is is that Dylan didn't really
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: have a relationship with Hannah before the show, and we
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: find out on the show that Blake, you know, had
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: gone out to Birmingham and they had kind of like
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: started this thing. And so unfortunately Dylan, even though like
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: she was she was into him, he was starting further
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: back in the blocks. You know. Yeah, yeah, Blake was
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: was was already got like a like a hundred yard
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: start on it, and so that was tough and we
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: all knew that was going to be an issue for
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and that's why I was like, just keep with it,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: you know, like don't blow up and and maybe things
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: will work out for you, And so far they have.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: The part that stresses me out well is and I
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: want to hear your advice on this because I watched
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: this for Allan and then we're rooting for Dylan. You
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: told me that Dylan is uh one of the best
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: men you've ever met, and so as a result, I'll
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: trust that and I'll cheer for him. And like you said,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Blake isn't about I'm not rooting against Blake here. I
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: know Blake, and I think he made some really terrible
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: decisions and I don't think he thought it through, but
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's a bad guy. Um. But and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: tell me if I'm completely off. I watch it right
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: now and I see Dylan chasing, and I see Dylan pursuing,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and I see him being uh steady in his thought.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: But I'm almost stressed for him because I know in
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: my relationship now how comfortable and confident I am in it,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Like there isn't an anxiety of oh my gosh, once
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: she's gonna leave me, or am I you know I'm
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: gonna wake up today and she's no longer gonna like me,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: or she's no longer gonna think I'm decent as a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: human like I don't have those fears, And it's the
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: best part of my relationship, and it's the best part
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of I think any committed relationship. When does that happen
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: when you are pursuing somebody at such a high level
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: where they are a little bit unattainable bowl when does
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: that switch? Does it ever switch? Does it? Is it
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: gonna switch for Dylan where he's gonna be confident and
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: comfortable in this relationship with Hannah. I mean the piece
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: of advice that I gave him a lot that I
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: don't think he ever followed, but it you know, that's fine,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: was you gotta play it cool a little bit more
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: than you're doing. Like there was a part of me
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that was like, you're you're on her hip a lot.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: He would say things like look how hot she is,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Look look how beautiful all the time, which is a
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: wonderful thing to hear. But but that's also the truth
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: is that like women also like a little bit of
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: a chase and like a little bit of mystery and stuff,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And so I just want to reiterate that to him.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is that if Dylan
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: was if it doesn't work out for Dylan and Hannah,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been a Dylan problem. It would have
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: been a Hannah problem, because he did and to this
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: point has done everything right. You know, He's he's been like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I'm only here for you. If it's not, I'm gonna
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: go home. It's fine. Like, um, he has that phenomenal
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: line of like, this isn't about this isn't about like
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: getting you this summer. It's about like getting you after
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the summer and forever. So I butchered what he said.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: He did much more eloquently, and it was like you're
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: saying all the right things. Um, So I got nothing
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: but respect and mad love for Dylan. Like that's the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: problem with this season is there's not a lot of heroes.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of kind of okay people and and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: villains for the most part, And like it was a
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: breath of fresh air to have a guy like Dylan
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: in there doing the thing that I think that all
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: women hope that all men do for them. You know, yeah, yeah,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: And I think this is and we'll get into it
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but I do think there's a turning
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: point in this episode where I do start to feel
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: like there's some heroes out there. But before we get
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: to that, I want to talk for a second about
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: how this cocktail party ended. And I think those are
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the two main themes that we should discuss. Is the
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Blake Dylan Hannah drama along with the fight um. But
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: here's how the cocktail party ended. Demi picks Derek, Katie
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: picks Chris, Nicole picks Clay, Kaitlin picks Dean. Obviously, Tasha
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: picks J p J, which is one of the most
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: surprising relationships in the Paradise so far, one that I
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: do enjoy. Uh. Sidney picks Mike, Hannah picks Dylan, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and a turn of events I think I don't know
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: if it was made up for TV or not, but
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: it felt like it was a probably as a friend,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: a good moment for Blake because it humbled him to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: know that he needs to kind of readjust his approach
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: and thought process and that the time spent with anybody
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: before the show might not be in his favor now,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: and so it it is a little bit of the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I think there's a lot of build up,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: and we unfortunately even did on almost famous podcast where
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: we really built up the Hannah and Blake relationship. We
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: built them both up to be that unattainable figure in Paradise.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: They both went in to it, I think, expecting to
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: kind of be the king and Queen of Paradise. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I think we see in this moment almost where Blake
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: gives up that thought that he is going to be
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the king of Paradise, and I actually believe it's going
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: to be in his favor. Yeah, I think I think
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the thing that Blake's needs the most is like a
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: little bit of humble pie. Um. And I kind of
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: equate Blake to Dean from a couple of years ago.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And the problem is that I don't think that Blake
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: has done anything wrong really. I mean, he's a single guy.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: He could have done things a little bit better. If
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you're going on a reality TV show with a bunch
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of women, maybe don't hook up of all of them
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: before you know you go on there. But like you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: like you said, he didn't kill anybody, he didn't rob anybody,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: like he didn't really do anything really really bad. Um,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that, like your actions don't follow
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: you around, right, And I thought that Dean couple of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: years ago. His whole thing was like, well, I'm being
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: so honest. I'm telling everyone. I'm telling everyone the truth
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: about me, so I can't be the bad guy. Well
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you can tell everyone the truth and still be kind
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: of an ass, right, And I think that Dean needed
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: to watch that back to be like, WHOA, I need
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: a course correct a little bit, like I need to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: work on some things. And I think that as as
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: bad as it's looking for Blake, I think this is
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: ultimately gonna be a good thing because he's gonna learn
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a whole lot about himself and how to carry himself
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: like going forward, you know. Yeah, And with Hannah and Dylan,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I think that you see it. It was a couple
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: episodes beforehand where Hannah comes to me and we talk
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and I say the thing to her of like there
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: seems to be this thing that you can't shake with Blake,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: but you need to make a decision at this point,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: And that was a conversation we had, like she was like,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: I just don't know what to do in terms of
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony me and I think that she she
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: had to make some tough decisions and figure out like
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: what it was really going to make her happy and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: then she did it. But I agree with you, like
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I think that everyone just wants some clarity, right, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Blake got it after that road ceremony. It's gotta be
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: a tough it's gotta be a tough position for Hannah.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: And I also wonder how Blake. I mean, I think
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: we've all seen that Blake is struggling with this. He
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: was definitely, I mean, even from the other cast members.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: He doesn't have a lot of support on his side
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: as we watch his show back, and I think it's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: gonna be a really hard lesson to learn, But I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: do I am excited to see how Blake moves on
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: because we're gonna be able to see it. Christina chose
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Blake uh in a fashion that you know, I don't
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: know if she had anybody else to choose. I don't
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: think she was feeling anything with anybody else. He's gonna
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: be around for a few more weeks. It will be
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: intriguing to see how his story plays out, if he
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: is able to kind of take a step back, and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: if the asked around him as able to support him
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: at all, because so far, yeah, they started out not
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: on his team and as we speak today, then on
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: on his team and he's watching this back and I
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: don't think he expected to not be on anybody else's team. Hey,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: the guys that got sent home this week, Cam, I
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: don't think it's that surprising. I just don't. I mean,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the guy cared, he fought it, he kind of put
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: his eggs in one basket that didn't work Will's. Will's
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: is surprising that he went home. I mean, I think
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: since Wills has been on the show, people have admired him,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: especially women, have you know, said how how wonderful he
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: is and how beautiful he is as a human. But
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: yet he's gone. And this has been a consistent theme
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: in his time on the show is he comes in
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: a lot of excitement around him and then he goes
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: home earlier than we expect. What did you see in Wills?
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: And what do you see watching it back? That kind
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: of messed this journey up. Wills is a guy that
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: annoys me on Reality a TV a lot, and I
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: love in reality a lot. Um he he is like
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: a larger in life person when cameras aren't around, and
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happens, but and he's so funny
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and so garious and just an awesome dude when there
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: are no cameras and sound guys, and then all of
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: a sudden, when that happens, he still has that bravado,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: but it dissonderates so quickly when things don't go his
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: way and at the end of the day, like, no
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: one wants to be around the sad sack. Now, the fact,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is is that Wills wasn't
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the most sad sack guy this week. It was cam
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Like he just would mope around. But you have to
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: exude the person that you want to be, and you
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: have to exude the person that you think that people
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: want to be around. And when you start moping around,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: no one wants to be around you. And it's just
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: becomes a thing of like, let's just put him out
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: his misernking him the hell out of here. And I
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: think that that's I think that's honestly what happened. And
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I felt bad for him because it was last year
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: where he was supposed to get where where Bibby was like,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you my rose to like keep keep
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: going or whatever, and I think what she did was
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like I think she pieced out. I can't remember exactly,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: but I remember he was bummed that he was thinking
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: that she was gonna give him the rose and it
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: didn't happen. And the same kind of thing happened again
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: this year. Where on is it on Yanka that is
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: like peace I'm out, which is a brutal move, but
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I mean I love it for TV. It's like gets
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: new new blood in there. But it's a three person swing,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: whereas before it was just gonna be one person going home,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, three people are going home. Um.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: So anyways, that's my thing about Wills. I love him
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: to death, but you gotta you gotta if you if
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: you're feeling down in yourself, you gotta still kind of
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: like put on the brave face and uh and still
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: charm everybody, you know. Yeah, no, that makes sense. And
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I wondered because there's a mystery there. We don't see
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of Wills. We don't get to know a
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: lot about Wills. We seem to enjoy Wills, uh, and
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Wills is gone. Every time
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: we watch the show. The other guy that's gone is Kevin.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: We don't know about a lot about Kevin. He makes
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: some comments unwarranted about Blake and he's out of there. Yeah,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: they're moving into the next day after the cocktail party.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Feelings are hurt, emotions are high, and we're moving on.
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  Speaker 1: with some breaking news, a massive announcement. I have zero
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: idea what you're about to talk about. I want to
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: get your thoughts on it, Okay, I kind of to
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: get everybody's thoughts on it as well. Still there. So
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: we're doing this event called uh Sho Cow Country at
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the brewery. It's that the Miller Brewery in Irwindale and
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Jane Kramer's hosting it. There's great country music. I want
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: to ask Jed to perform. I think, like, you know,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: I listened back again to his interview that we did
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: in the in depth and like, I think it's time, Like,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: let's give this guy a shot. So I want to
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: see what you guys think. Wait, can we have a
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: contingent a contingency here? Yeah, he has to sing the
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: dog food jingle he needs if he doesn't encore with
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the dog food jingle, no money, no money. I mean,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have you guys call him, But I
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: wanted to like talk about it first because I think
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: it's time. I think it's like he made a mistake,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: but like, this guy's a cool guy who we all
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: liked on TV, and it's like I thought it would
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: be fun, so I did mention it to him briefly.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: He you know, he's nervous and has reservations too, but
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's on board. And this is what's so nice,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Like he's willing to totally donate his time for us
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and you know, come out and have fun and like
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: meet people. So I want to do it. I want
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: to see what you guys think, and then I want
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: you guys to call Jed and talk about it. I
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: think you're handing Jed a silver platter. And if he
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't say yes to this, he's crazy. That's what I think.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I think. I think it doesn't really matter what's right
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: or wrong. Ed needs to say yes. It's more about
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: the fans. Like I think, like I hope everyone listening
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: is like, you know what, okay, Like let's go meet him,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: let's go talk to him, let's listen to him play.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And I know it's that you're like polarizing thing with
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: the backs of people in the music, but it's like
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: the dude is a kind of a cool singer let's
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: do it. I'm fine with it. But also this isn't
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: my show, so I mean, what do we Okay, so
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: let's break this down, Amy, Okay, Ultimately, what do we like?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: The alternative this would be me saying no, it's not
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: a good idea, and Jed should suffer for the rest
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: of his life and never have a gig again, and
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: nobody should ever support him or listen to his music,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: and instead he needs to go off and do whatever
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: it is he's not passionate about and doesn't love. No,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: of course I'm not going to say that like that. Um, yeah,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that doesn't sound good. No, so let's say, let's call
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: up Jed, let's talk to him about it. And then
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I think, Wells and I both agree that Jed, you
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: need to say yes to this. You need to do it.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: And if nobody shows up to listen to you sing,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: at least you're singing and that's what you like. Well,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and here's the beauty of it. This other country band,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: High Valleys performing this other country band, how are he's performing?
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Its hosted by Janna Like people are coming already because
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: it's like it's a really great time and it's like
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: we're I Heart Radio. We're supposed to be all about
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: the bachelor, but we're about the good and the bad
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: and the forgiveness and the love and the whole thing.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: So I think, like, this guy's a really cool guy.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Let's give him the chance. Perfect Remember when we didn't
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: like Dean and we love Dean? Do we love Dean? Jeez?
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Do we ever tweet? Yeah? Holy cow? Every lows Dean. Hey,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: all right, Amy, but will you text me because I'm
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: a little nervous because I want to know how it
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: goes because I'm in San Francisco, so I'm like not
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: there with you. So will you text me after and
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: tell me how it goes? Yeah, definitely, we'll call him
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: up An. I love you guys. By all right, let's
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: bring Jed on. Wow, what is up with your guys audio? Jed?
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Are you in a windstorm? Right now? This is Jed
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: Welcome to His Face podcast. Is that better? There? It
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: is so much better? Hey, Jed? You have wells. Adams
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: and I here today for the almost famous podcast. We're
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: calling to fully talk some sense into you. I don't
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: know if you'll need it or not. We just got
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: off the phone with producer Amy. My heart has invited
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: you to sing at their event on Saturday, September seven,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: from three to ten pm. It is called the so
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Cal Country at the Brewery. They want you to perform
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: and we want to hear if you're gonna do it
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: or not. You know what, Um, I think I'm into it.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: That sounds some Yeah, Yeah, let's do it. Any hesitation,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: not at all? You know that that sounds exciting. You know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I haven't played a lot of shows since everything's gone down. Um,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: just kind of been taking some time, and uh, I'm
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: ready to get back out there and do some stuff.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: So yeah, let's do it. The event will be this
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: So if you want to come and listen to Jed
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: play uh Jed, there's one stipulation that that wells is
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: laid out there. You need to play the dog food jingle.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I think that's just necessary. But also if aybody out
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: there is listening and saying I want to go to
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: this event, this is the event. You got live music,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: great beer, you can come together at the so Cow
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Country at the Brewery, presented by Miller Lyte. Live performances
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: will include Jed, High Valley, Hardy Redwood, Black, DJ Badash.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: It's hosted Yeah I like that Na's hosted by Janet Kramer. Jed,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: you haven't played a lot of gigs since your time
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: on the Bachelor. At Is it because you feel like
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: the fans are in support of you right now, or
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: just too much has been going on. It's really been
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: more of just too much going on. I need to
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: like clear my head now. Um, I think obviously there
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: there's so much, like there's so many things just like
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: floating around, and everyone was very angry, and you know,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I was upset too, and I just needed to take
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: some time to myself. But like I said, I'm ready
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: to get back out there, and I think this sounds
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: like a great way to kick off, you know, some
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: new beginnings. How are you feeling these days? By the way, man,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: I'm a lot better. You know, I'm in sporter right now.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: I'm on a vacation with my whole family, so I'm
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: sing I'm throwing more grounded. So that's good. I thought
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be a lot harder of aself. Like
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I thought, we're gonna have to convince it this is
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: not fun anymore. It's just like, yeah, I'm into it, Sure, Okay,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: why not? Yeah, it sounds like a good idea. I mean,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: I was convinced, Jed, we're gonna call you up and
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: be like, are you crazy, don't be an idiot. My
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Heart is offering you a gift. Go do it and
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: people will come out to support you. But instead he
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: was like, yes, it seems like a good idea. So hey,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: if anybody wants to show up, uh, make sure you
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: go listen to a great show. Uh, some really great
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: acts hosted by Janet Kramer so Kyl at the Brewery,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: presented by My Heart and Miller Lite. Hey, Jed, good luck.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Let us know how it goes. And that's all I
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: have to say. I'm glad you're doing well. I'm glad
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: you're happy. Enjoy your vacation. Yeah, enjoy your vacation, and
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: uh go play some music. You know what. I really
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: am excited, and I didn't really mean to sound, you know,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: like I wasn't. It's just a you know, it's kind
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: of a cool surprise to get and I wasn't expecting
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: to hear that today. So I am thankful and look
• 51:21
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  Speaker 1: is great. So we wake up after the cocktail party,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: we see seen a little this mantled sad. I guess
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: we could say emotional. He was not chosen by the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: woman of his dreams, that he was chosen by Christina,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: somebody he has had a relationship in the past. Is
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: there any romantic connection at this point? Which meeen Christina
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: and Blake I think yes, just because you always will
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: have a romantic connection with an x um, just because
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: like you know, well they went to Stage Coach together,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: so you know what that means. UM. But I do
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: think that like the ships sailed for their relationship, and
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I think at this point they both are kind of
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I don't really know, but they're both kind of like, well,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: we'll we'll float each other, you know, will we'll be
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: given out friendship roses together for a while. I don't
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: know what is your vibe on it. I can't tell
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: either of them are that supportive of each other. I
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: guess that's my big question is if they were down
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: in Paradise and they're both like fighting for the other,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: then it makes sense. I don't get if there if
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: there's like romantic chemistry, if they're just both in the
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: same team, if they had this conversation beforehand before they
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: got on the show, and they're like, hey, we're gonna
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: go down there support each other. It just feels weird
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: to me. And maybe I've missed this and I've forgotten it.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: It feels weird to me that it felt like Christina
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: came down to Paradise to kind of called Blake out
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: and kind of say, Blake, you did this to me,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: This isn't fair. Similar to the Kalin situation. I mean
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: really their stories are very similar when it comes to
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Blake's up with one of them the night before and
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: vice versa. Yet now this change of heart has happened,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: and I don't think we've seen why. Well, she kind
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: of mentions that she wants to watch Blake suffer and
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: see Blake be sad about Dylan and Hannah being a thing,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: which is kind of super evil. Yeah, it's like, I
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: don't know, I watched You'll Cry every Day. I don't
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: like and I've always been a fan of Christina, but
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: that comment is like pretty dark. Yeah, Christina is I
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: was talking about this with a friend the other day,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and I think it holds true. I think that Christina
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: has been the victim of f boyery for quite some
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: time on national television, and she was Aladin and she
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: didn't like the way that she was perceived as being
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: like weak and um and emotionally clingy on that season.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: So I feel like there's a part of her deep
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: down that's like, you know what, I've been confronted with
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: another f boy and I'm going to do the thing
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: that I wish I had done before, which is, you know,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know hurt him because I know what it's
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: like to be hurt by guys like that. So at
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: this point, does Blake have any people on his team
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: in Paradise? And and the fall up to this, why,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: as you think about that would be if I'm Blake
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and I'm standing at a rose ceremony and Christina offers
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: me a rose and I know that she has ulterior
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: motives or since it, why in the world do you
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: say yes? Because I think he's open that he can somehow, um,
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, reconstruct his image. So he's around to
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: try to figure out how this has all gone wrong,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: to get a second chance, and to try to try
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: to fix what has already been broken. I think, So,
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah? I mean I would think so.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I mean that would be the only reason because if
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: because at this point we haven't seen any type of
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: apology or true friendship between Christina and Blake. And so
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: if I'm Blake and I'm heart broken that Hannah hasn't
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: offered me the roads, I'm standing up there and then
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Christina offered him the roads, and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I go, wait, you do you know what my best
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: interest in mind? I think I'm running, like I'm out
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: of there. This has not been in my favor. I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: know this isn't gonna get any better, Like there is
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: no fixing to what always been done. I need to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: leave now. Yeah, I agree, I think you should have gone.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Probably a couple episodes beforehand, he made a lot of
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: bad decisions. I think one of them paramount was accepting
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to go on a date with Christina. Like, you knew
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: that was going to not go well, you knew that
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: there was not gonna be a thing. What's the point
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: of it. You should have been like, hey, listen, I
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: so I still love you, and I hope I hope
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: nothing that the best for you. You You should go find
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: someone here for you. We don't need to hash this
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: out anymore. But he did that, and that put him
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: behind the ball once again, because then she just went
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: talents out and just destroyed him there. And then I
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: think she felt maybe a little bit bad about it,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: so she was like, you know what, he deserves to
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: find love or whatever, So I'm gonna give him a friendships.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: I don't remember it. If I remember it, She does
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: say Blake is not a bad guy. He's made some
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: bad decisions, and so her her thought process is, Hey,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: this dude like he's been beat up. Does he deserve
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: it a little bit? Yeah, it probably does, but let's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: at least keep him around to see if he can
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: show the Blake that we all know outside of his
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: you know, Galli vanting around. Yeah. It's a weird thing, man,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: And it's it's also like Christina just comes across as
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: just kind of mean in this episode. I have to
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, Like I was sitting there being like, wow,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't know this is how this went, Like her
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: conversation with Caitlin. Yeah, you know, I think Caitlin. I
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: think Caitlyn was coming from a fair place being like,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: what are your intentions here? Because I don't think you
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: want to date him? So you just want the rose.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: If that's true, that's messed up because I think that
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I actually have something with him and you're kind of
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: impeding that. And then she just like does like the
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: scary Russian thing where all of a sudden she was
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: just like breathing over her with a knife in her teeth,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: and it was terrifying and Caitlin felt it like like
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: felt the heat. It's we got a question last week, well,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: was you might be able the instagram? Because we've got
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: to figure this out. If Blake would have said no
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: to Christina's rose at that moment, do they both go home?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: I think so? Yes. We dressing that play out. It
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: was asking the podcast we had no we have no clue. Yeah,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: can be confident? Okay, I I think yes, both go home.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: So if there's one person now sitting with who is
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: one person in Paradise that you do not want to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: get on their bad side? Would you say to be
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Christina Christina more than Jordan's, more than Kaylin, more than Clay.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what Chris Christian um Demmi
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: like Christina is the one person you're saying, Yeah, that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: one would definitely terrify me. She scares me a little bit.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I mean like Demi would scare me a little bit too,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I think. But yeah, no, Christina like she's also been
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: around and she's like when she was like no, honey,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: like whatever she said, I was like, oh God, they're
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: gonna fight. Yeah, you know, it's wild. It's hard for me.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: Like Chris, I had the like biggest crush on Christina
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: when she was on I forget whose season it was
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: and Nix, I was like, she's Nicks as the super
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: sweet girl. And now I'm like, if I was in
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: paradise with her, like I would, I would be so intimidated,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: not because of like a crush, maybe just like I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: don't want I'm gonna do something wrong, say something wrong,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be bad. Yeah, she's She's definitely like
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: turned into something that I don't really recognize, to be
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: honest with you, Like when she was going through all
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: that stuff with um with Dean, I felt so bad
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: for I mean I had that like that that one
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: scene where I asked her, like, uh, why are you
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: fighting for someone that's not fighting for you? And like
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: she breaks down and like it was this whole thing
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: and we hugged and like I felt so bad for
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: And now it's like she is a very very it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: seems like a very very angry woman. I don't know,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: and you might have said it best, you know, as
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: we we've gotten to see her journey kind of play out.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: She has been a victim of some pain on this show.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: And you do put up walls to protect yourself and
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: this pain might be deeper than what we've ever really
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: seen from the show, meaning that you know, when it
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: comes to Dean, she didn't like how it played out,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: and when it came to Blake, however it went down
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: outside of the show, it then affected her coming onto
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: the show. There are some massive pains and as a result,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: she's protecting herself. And this is a we've here's the truth.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: None of us are ouselves when we're defensive. Yeah, none
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: of us. And she's definitely defensive right now because the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: reason I'm saying that, and again I'm not down there,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I can't see it. I think she's defensive because we
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: still have yet to see her really pursue a guy. Yeah,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: you know I I I think it comes down to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: she always perceived herself as this really strong woman who overcome,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: who overcame a lot of stuff obviously, like from her
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: upbringing and everything. UM, and I think that she hated
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: the way that she looked last time, and she was like,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: I get to be I want to be that really
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: strong woman on TV this time, and I want to
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: show people like who I am and what I made
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: of Um. The problem is that sometimes it just comes
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: across as really abrasive and and and then she doesn't,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: in my mind, seem strong. She seems kind of mean. Yeah,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: it's a fine line you gotta walk. Who's someone that
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: you'd be scared to get on their bad To me?
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Demi would destroy me. She would crucify me. She's way
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: too witty, way too quick, way too smart, and she
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: would say things that like that, Yeah, she I would
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: not know she even at one point was we were
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: at a the live taping of the Mentel All so
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: No after the final rows for Colton season, and Demi
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: was in her dressing with me and I went up
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, Dammi, I'm Ben. She's like, yeah,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: you've bad mouth me on your podcast. I was like
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: right away, and I was like, oh did I? I mean,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm just you know, trying to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: break down the episodes and what I'm seeing on the show.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: She's like, you called me a pest, and I was like, well,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: in a sense, I still stick to that because you're lovable.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: You're like a lovable pest. Like you're like the pest
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: that like we can't get rid of, but yet we
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if we really want to like you're like
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: scabies or scabs or something like that, like we we
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: just can't get rid of you. And she was like
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: not happy, like not happy. And at that moment I shrunk,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: like I could feel myself shrink. And I feel like
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: by the end of the night, I was on my
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: hands and kneeds me like, dim me, please forgive me.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I don't mean anything. I said, You're the best,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: You're the greatest, like I love you and and now
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: I watched you to me and I and I do
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I love and we'll talk about them a little bit.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: But anyways, Yeah, I'm still scared of Demmium, probably for
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: rightly so. So Christina and Demi are definitely to the
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: intimidated us. Um somebody that doesn't intimidate me. But I'm
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I'm shocked by its Caitlin who shows up the Paradise
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: this week. She's some Coulton season the back, so we
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: don't see a lot of her on Colton season. She
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: if she had Night One girl. No, she stuck around
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: for a little bit, but um, she obviously didn't make
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: it as far as most women from Colton season that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: are there right now. I I am was excited to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: see her, UM because I thought that she looked exactly
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: like the girl from Fool's Gold UM, or also the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: girl from Entourage that the Vinnie UM. So if you
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: guys just want to google that, they look exactly the same. UM.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: But I was happy to see her there because I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: think she's beautiful and we needed some new blood that day.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: She was great, She was a great addition. She was
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit shocking. We didn't know a lot about her.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: She is beautiful, uh, and she picks Blake to go
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: on the day with her. It's kind of the obvious choice.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of the other guys were single
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: and looking to mingle, and he was sitting there. She's interested.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: The The part though, through this whole thing, that I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: was a little bit shocked by was how hurt Blake
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: still was at the day before. And I couldn't tell
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: if this you know, connection for Blake, this this request
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: to go on a date kind of built his confidence
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: and he walked into date confident, or if he was
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: more like, I just need to move on somehow, some way,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: and she seems to be the best option. But here's
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: the thing, and I was really happy this going to
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: happen Before the day even starts, Blake says, yeah, I've
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: met her before at stage coach, which is just in
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: this season, like the worst phrase to use ever, as like,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: I met her at stage coach. And he finishes up
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: and says, but nothing happened. I believe that. I think
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: he's been pretty obvious about what's happened. I think at
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: this point he's learned his lesson and would not lie
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: or tell, not tell the complete truth. There's also only
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: so many hours in stagecoach, you know, at some point
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: it's a it's a logistics issue in terms of a day.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: That's a good point, Yeah, I mean, because what is
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: this two days? Three days? Like that would be a
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: wild tournament fans um. He goes on this day, it's
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: going well. He's still sucked up in Hannah's uh web,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: and at some point he breaks through and he says
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: he's ready to forgive himself, that he's carried a burden
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: through this whole experience that has put a weight on him,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: and he's ready to forgive himself and try to move on,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: and he's excited to do it with Caitlin. Is there
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: is this a shift in the Blake story, Like, is
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: this moment a shift wells in your opinion on how
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Blake views himself, what he's learned, and how others in
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: the house will view him. I think that that's how
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: what he thinks. You know, he realizes that him and
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: Hannah aren't going to be a thing. He's still there,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: so he has to keep his are open um and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: this is the first opportunity for that to happen. The
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: problem is that it doesn't. You get the vibe that
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: he's like not super into it, And that makes me
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: feel kind of bad for Caitlin, because, you know, devoid
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: of all the kind of crap that Blake has had
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: to go through, you still want Caitlin have good experience there.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: You know. Did you get the vibe that like he
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: wasn't that into her? Remeybe his head was still in
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: the Hannah cloud definitely did. But I do think that
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: moment changed it for me. Like I think he went
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: into it very sucked in the Hannah and he's sitting
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: there with Caitlyn going that's over with this, has done.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: This is a great girl who I'm getting along with.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: I can move on my my confusion to all of this,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: and I think our listeners can help break it down.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: So listeners is my second question of the podcast. Please
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: email us at ben actually at our Heart media dot
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: com with your thoughts or hashtag is almost from his
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: podcast on Twitter. If Blake is so sucked up into
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: the Hannah situation, if he cares about her that much,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: which I really believe he did, what in the world
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: was he doing at the very beginning of this process,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: because as Dylan was pursuing Hannah and handle alone Blake,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: yes he was distracted with Caitlin, and yes there was
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: a Christina thing, but he also showed interest in Tassia.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Night one moved on why wasn't that a Hannah pursuit
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: right away from because I think this whole thing looks different,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: even the story with Caitlin and Christina, if he's with
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: Hannah saying hey, it all led me to you. Yeah.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: It was as big as mistake of the entire um
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: season for sure, and it would have looked completely different.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: I think if he had taken her on that first
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: date in Cenitasia. The issue is is that he also
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: had met and flirted with Tasha at stage coach from
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: what everyone was saying. So I think in his mind,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: and this I do not want to speak for him,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: but this is how I perceived it. It was, Um,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: I'm intrigued by Tassia. I know him into Hannah. Hannah
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: is not going anywhere. So if I can get some
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: clarity between how I feel about Tasha, then I know
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: how to move forward with Hannah, I think, And I
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: think that's how he justified it in his head. He
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: should have taken hand on that first date. It would
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: have changed everything. It would have I mean, it's it's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: less than number one in relationships. If you're into somebody,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: you should probably pursue them and not test the waters
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: in the outside looking in hoping that person still sticks around. Yeah,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: I think there's a part of me that thinks that
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: at that moment, Blake didn't think his s stunk, you know,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: like he thought he was going to be the king
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: of Paradise and then he there's no way that he
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: could have perceived how like how hard this was gonna
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: unravel on him. Oh yeah, I don't know, No, it
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: could be true. Yeah, So like at this point, Blake's
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, this has made the beauty of these situations,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and and I'm a before on the angiogram wells, which
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: means I really enjoy authentic, real moments. I throw. I've
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: when even in pain, when things are real, And as
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: much as I don't like to see it, there is
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: a really beautiful thing that's happening to Blake in front
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: of our eyes that we should all celebrate that he
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: is being humbled. I think he would admit to that,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: that he is being humbled in front of our eyes
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: on television and we're seeing it happen. So he if
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: he walks in, we've all been there. I don't want
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: to say this is a blake, This is only Blake.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: I've had this happen to me in my time as
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. You get a big head, you think you're cool,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: you're walking on water, everybody is giving you attention, and
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it all comes to a
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: screeching hall. Something happens that affects that confidence, and you
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: realize that you're never as cool as you thought you were,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: and you're humbled, and you're ne're a better person because
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: of it, because your perspective changes, and there's like there
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: is a lens that's been covering your eyes that has
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: now been removed and everything looks different, feels different, And
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: I wonder if that moment was on that day with Caleen.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, we'll see well to see the one thing
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: that can tinuees to be be constant though. You know,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: we've talked about Hannah g and Blake's pursue, but Dylan's
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: pursuit of her, and we talked about a little bit ago,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: but now is Dylan's time to shine. They get a
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: date in Paradise, one on one. Everything is kind of
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: led up to this moment, right we're all watching, at
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: least I am going, Okay, we've played games. It hasn't
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: been pretty. It's been hard to watch on both ends.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: But this is the moment that feels like if it's
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: gonna go, well, we're gonna learn about it now, Like
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see this thing flourish. And Dylan and Hannah
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Gee go on a date. They're walking on the water
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: to dinner. Literally, they sit down, they have a wonderful talk. Um.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Hannah Gee opens up and it's a really great moment
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: to see because I do think it it humanized her
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: a bit from being the kind of the goddess on
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: the beach to them being a real human who has
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: emotions and feelings and pain. And she opens up about
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: heart how she was heartbroken the last time she went
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: on this show, and she's worried and she wants to
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: protect herself. But there's one guy, there's one guy that
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: will definitely protect her. Uh. He might not be the
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: one that, if you looked at in the lineup, say yeah,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: that's the guy that's gonna protect Hannah g it's Dylan.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Dylan says one thing to you, to her that makes
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: me realize that he's going to protect her. He says,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: I love doing special things for you because seeing you
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: happy and feeling appreciated is something I want to keep
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: doing all the time. That's the same stuff I say
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: to Jess, Like that's like deep stuff, like hey, I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: I will give up my own like happiness at times,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: like I will. I will lay at the feet of
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: your desires to see you shine, because when you're shining,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: I'm happier. Like when you're feeling appreciated, I'm I'm at
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: my best because that's how much I care about you.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's deep stuff. And he's saying this to
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: hand a few weeks in. Is it too much, too soon?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Or is this where they're at. I think he I
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: think he was love at first sight guy, for sure.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: And I agree with you, like a true love is
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: um is putting yourself, putting someone else's needs and wants
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: in front of your own, you know, and like that
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: that's what he's trying to say here. I think that
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: I think that he knows that he's in love with her,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: but he can't say that because that's kind of weird
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: so soon. So he says, I'm starting to fall in
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: love with you. Yeah, But in his mind, he's like,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: all I want to tell you is that I love you.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: If like, if I could get Neil Lane in here
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: right now, I would, yeah, you know, I mean, is
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: that a beautiful Like we've see this all the time
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: on the show and we laugh at it and we
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: joke about it. Oh, how can you fall in love
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: so fast? All this stuff? But sometimes like magic happens,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: like sometimes it just transcends the norm. And I feel
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: like I've watched Dylan this whole time, and he really
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: has loved Hannah. Now has it been reciprocated, I don't know,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: but he really has loved Hannah since the moment he
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: laid eyes on her, and I think I would have
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: I think I'm would have enjoyed it if he had
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: just said, Hannah, like, I don't know what to say
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: right now, but I love I love you. Yeah. I
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: think he was worried about scaring her away for sure,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: And it was so close to her, you know, swing
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: dancing with plaque on the beach that like, you know,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: so I think he I think he was hedging his
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: bets there a little bit. I think that he said
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: as much as as much as he could without freaking
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: her out. Um, and I think he did a good
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: like a really good job. He opened up, talked about,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: you know, his dad being diagnosed with cancer, and and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: and then Hannah reciprocates with with I'm all in, which
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: I almost feel like is just as powerful as saying
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry to fall in love with you. Yeah, you know,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: this is it? This is it? What before we move
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: on here, because we can this relationship was going to
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: be when we talked about for weeks and weeks and weeks,
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: what was it in Hannah that switched? I mean she's
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: literally one night separated from swing dancing with another guy
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: on a beach and kissing him. What moment was it
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: that switched for her to then say them all in,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: because I'm assuming at this point she's all in. I mean,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I can't speak for I know
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of people on that beach were very much
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: team Dylan. So if you're going around trying to get
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: advice from people about what you should do, everyone, I
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: think everyone except for Blake, was like, you would be
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: crazy to break this kid's heart. Okay, And I think that,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: you know, I think that she's a strong woman that
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: and that could make her own decisions, but I think
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: sometimes you need to hear it from everyone around you
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, you're right, man, like this is
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: a really good thing. What am I doing here? Like
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. And
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: I don't really know, but I think that that when
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: she realized that everyone was like what is happening, that
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: she was like, you're right, what do you think? That's
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: probably it? I mean, I was gonna say it was
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: the moment she had to decide between the two, like
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: actually decide that She's started picturing life with Blake and
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: life with Dylan and life without Dylan and life without Blake,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: and she thought that Dylan was going to offer her
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: or bring her more of what she was looking for
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: than Blake. And at that point, I think there is
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: a switch in all of us that says, hey, yeah,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: this hasn't been easy, but I'm committing to it because
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: I know it's right and I know what it's gonna
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: look like, what I've always dreamed of. And you literally
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: seen me making out with other guys and stood beside
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: me and support the whole time. And that's somebody that
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: I need. I need my my writer Die. Not that
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be making out guys anymore, but I need
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: my writer Die. I need somebody's gonna be there through
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: thick and thin wells. Dylan isn't the only one falling
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: in love in Paradise, surprisingly to all of us. To Twitter,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: to the emails, yeah j p J and Tasha, j
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: p J says this. He says he's starting to fall
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: in love with Tasha, and he says, if Tasha were
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: my wife, I'd be the happiest man in the world.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Unexpected relationship. But here's one thing I've learned about JPJ
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: and all transparency. We all watch it, we laugh at
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: it because of the way he talks and the things
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: he says and he's throwing up it feels like on
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: the beach a lot and then in the pool. But
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: the one thing about JPJ is he is incredibly intelligent,
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: but he is a smart guy, and it's and and
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: he's he's a nice guy and he cares a ton
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: about this woman, who again is way out of his league. Agreed. Um, yeah,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Like I don't never really know that this this seeing
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: this play out is weird for me because this was
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: something that I think, I don't know if a lot
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: of people knew what was happening. Um, they're like closeness
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: was not something that was very much publicized, I feel
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: like to everyone on the beach, and I think that
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: that's going to be something that comes up later in
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: the show. Like they much, they're very much were like
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: sneaking away together a lot, and so a lot of
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: people just didn't know that they're they were so close
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: And did you even know they are so close until
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: you watch the episode? No I didn't. That's that's shocking.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, because it is close and they are into
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: each other and changes in the hymn and they have
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: this goofy dynamic where they're both themselves there, you know,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: JPJS reciting poetry and she's looking at him gazingly like
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: I've never recited poetry to a woman and for her
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: to take me seriously, Yeah yeah, yeah. Well I don't
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: know if she took him seriously either though, to be fair,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: and I here's my thought on like the fact that
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: it wasn't like super publicized. Um, the perception of JPJ
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: is he's just like fun loving um Bill and Ted's
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: excellent adventure guy, right, Like that's it's like, well, all right,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: let's yeah go to the beach and it hits and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: sick ways bro, Like he's that guy. Um. And I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: think there's a part of tation that's like I shouldn't
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: be falling for something like this, you know. So maybe
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to keep this under wraps for a little
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: bit and see what happens, um. And then what ends
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: up happening is which what is what I love about Paradise.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: The relationships that end up working are never the ones
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: you think they're gonna work beforehand. And I could have
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: told you this before the season started, that there was
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: no way in hell that Blake and Hannah Gee we're
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: gonna work out you know why, because everyone wanted that
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: thing to work out. And then how it happens Carly
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: and Evan great example, the Goose and Crystal. Everyone was like,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: this is the weirdest combo ever. There you go. I
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: mean like, and I think that's the beauty of paradise
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: is it brings people. Okay, So the problem that we
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: all have in the back stor world is we are
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: all single, which means we all dated the wrong people
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: and we think that we know what our type is.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: But the truth is we're wrong because the people that
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: have been our type have never really worked out. Hence
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: why we're on the stupid television show. So the reason
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: why the people that you don't think will work out
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: for you work out is because they're not the thing
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: that has been the wrong thing the entire time you've
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: been dating your entire life. And that is that's my spiel.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: That's good, That's that's brilliant. I mean, that is well,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: that is a brilliant synopsis of why we're on this
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: show and why we struggle to find relationship in the
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: real world, and why this show feels so attractive to
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: so many people that continue to come back because on
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: this show it's one of the first times that you
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: can openly date somebody that's not your type. Hey, um
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: speaking to more shocking relationships. I want to get into
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: the Demi and Derek convery station, and I want to
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: set this up for you. Hannah By knows Demmi well.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Hannah By comes to the beach. Uh surprises a lot
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: of people. Mike said, a lost for words, and everybody's excited,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: and Dean saying, hey, maybe Hannah By wants gonna date
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: with us. Who knows what's happening. But really, Hannah's there
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: to talk to her friend and be a friend to Demmi.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: And at this point we see Demmi start to open
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: up about something that is um very new to this franchise,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: something that is incredibly courageous I think, to enter into
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: and to start talking about. And she's doing it with
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: the perfect person and Derek. So Hannah By encourages Demmi
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: to follow where her heart is, to follow what she wants,
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: and she's still a little bit confused on what she wants,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: but she knows she has a partner back home in
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Christian de Mean says her the girl's name for the
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: first time, and now it's time to talk to Derek,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: your friend, somebody I don't know well at all. I
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: really don't know him at all. So I'm coming back
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: about this just from a fans person inspective. But Demmi
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: opens up to Derek and both of them and here's my, my, my,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: how I want to start this. What they did in
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: this moment was more compelling, captivating, and I guess enjoyable
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: for me to watch than any drama that's ever been
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: done on this show at any point. It was two
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: adults having a very real conversation, one person, Demi doing
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: something incredibly scary but also incredibly courageous, and Derek being
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: put into a position where his heart was torn, his
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: interests were divided, yet he listened, and I think it
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: was awesome. And I want to start here, wells with this?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: What about this moment for you? And what about let's
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: start with Derek, because we're gonna talk a lot about Demmy.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: Let's start with Derek. What about Derek? And and because
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: you're his friend, what was going through his mind do
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: you think at this time? Alright, so I agree with
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: you and what you said. I thought it was the
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: best reality TV that I've seen, um in any reality
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: TV show, like it made me feel something that I
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: don't normally feel, which was like I got like teared,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: I teared up when I saw the whole thing. And
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's partially because Derek and I are really
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: close and I could like feel his pain. I think
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: that what was going through his mind was this sucks
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: because I really really liked this girl and I could
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: see myself with her. Um but I understand that what
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: she's doing, Like, first of all, coming out do your
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: best friend is tough. Coming out to your parents even
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: more difficult. Imagine doing that on national television, Like that's
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: on a whole different level of scary. I think that
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Derek realized the weight of the situation. I think that
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: he also is smart enough and woke enough to realize
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: the situation was much bigger than him and it's okay
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: to be hurt, But also he needed to be supportive
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: because he realized that the situation of him getting his
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: heartbroken paled in comparison to the thing that she was
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: about to go through, and that will go through, you know,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of months down the road when the show airs.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: So I think that the one that wonderful thing about
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: Derek is Derek is smart enough to be able to
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: understand how big of a moment that was for him,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: but still he's human and his heart was was like, man,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: it sucks, you know, like why does he keep happening
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: to me? Thing? Does that answer your question? Does? It
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: puts him in an interesting snare? Right? So if if
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Demmy had a boyfriend back home, yeah, I think it
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: feels different. But we realized that Demmy came to Paradise conflicted.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: Um not confused, but conflicted. She was interested in pursuing
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: a partner in Paradise. She wanted to be in Paradise.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: But she then admits, and then the reason I'm getting
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: this because she was downplaying the situation with the girl
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: back home Christian. And so at this moment, it feels
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: like it switches because Derek is smart enough to know
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: where Demmy was coming from by even coming to Paradise.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: And I thought Derek did something that I hope every
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: friend would do for me for the rest of my life.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Is he would sit, he would empathize, he would relate,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: and he would speak from a place of empathy and
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: non judgment and non criticism and even even taking their
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: own self interests out of consideration. He would do it
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: because he knows it's the best for the human sitting
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: across from And that to me was one of the
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: most brilliant not brilliant. I don't think he did it
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: cal calculated. I just think it's probably who he is.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: But I can't and well, this is what I mean.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: I'll call it a really good God moment. Others will
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: call them a miracle of sorts. How in the world
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: did Dimmy have the opportunity to sit down with Derek
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: out of anybody else there? It feels miraculous that Derek
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: was the person sitting across the table from her as
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: she shared this as it was happening, and while we
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: were doing it, it was very much a conversation of
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: there was no other person in the franchise that probably
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: could have handled it as well as Derek did. And
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: everyone was just super happy that and proud that he
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: was there and he was a part of the franchise
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: to begin with. And I like, just to echo your point,
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: like he just comes across as super selfless in a
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: in a moment where you get to be selfish, you know,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: like this is these are my feelings too. But he
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: still had the wherewithal and the compassion to be like whoa, okay,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: hold on. I realized this as big and I realized
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: this is this is much bigger for you than it
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: is for me. So what do I need to do?
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, like even the thing of like, well, can
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: I talk to Christian before everyone else does? That's crazy, right,
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: Like if that was another guy, I'm sure he'd be like, oh,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna punch a sky in the first, you know,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: but like he was like, whoa, okay, hold on, can
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: I at least like meter first? So like we have
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: a connection before, Like I wouldn't have thought to do
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: that in that moment, you know, Like that blew me
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: away that he had the compassion to do that, you know. Yeah,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: and there's the you know, one of the fun parts
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: about this show is everybody can say the right thing
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: for a few weeks. It happens, right, everybody come on
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: and be the Mrs Hero or Mr Hero or whatever
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: like you can. You can come on and say the
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: right thing for long enough. But ultimately the show does
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: a great job at pulling your true character out. And
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: I think for the most part, the humans who have
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: the characteristics of a good person end up thriving from
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: this show and the other ones they they kind of
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: go by the way side after a few years or
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: even an episode. In this moment, it was a lot
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: of times when when conflict occurs, Well, what I'm getting
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: at is, and this is probably me being judgmental, but
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of times when conflictly occurs on the show,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: I listened to the response to the other person, and
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: it feels very um self selfish. It feels very uplifting
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: for the person in their response, Oh you're breaking up
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: with me? I am so sad, I'm heartbroken. Everybody should
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: feel bad for me. Blah blah. No, when I watched this,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: there was not one moment that I ever since from
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Derek that this was anything more than him caring a
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: lot about somebody he cared for. And that's what made
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: it so beautiful. It was real, it was raw. I
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: don't think he could I think he could have cared
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: less if there was a camera around or nine million
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: people watching. What he cared about in that moment was
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: Demi and what Demmy was doing and what what what
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: was really changing the path of Demi's life. Yeah, and
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: it's interesting to see like he obviously is very strong
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: for her in front of her, and then very strong
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: for her with Christian when they when they meet. Um,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: but he still has that like very real moment when
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: he when he kind of like walks away from the situation,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: he starts to break down and is has this kind
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: of whole spiel of like is this everyone keeps saying
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: I'm a good guy, Like when is that gonna be enough?
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: Like when's that gonna be enough? He finally realizes that
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: his feelings matter in this moment too, but he has
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: the tach to not do it to her. He does
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: it basically alone in the sand, or basically do a producer.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: I think, um, and I thought that was a really
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: beautiful moment too, where he understood how big the moment
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: was and he was so compassionate to her. He was
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: even compassionate and the fact that he didn't do the
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: woe is meeting to her he walked away and did
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: it you know and like and and saved her from
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: having to experience pain you know there, which the whole
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: thing was just like now, that was that was like
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: arrow in my heart moment on Paradise for sure. The
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Demi story, Uh, it's obviously when that's intriguing. But mostly
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: I guess here at the podcast, I want to say, um, Demmi,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: we completely support you. I think that's obvious. But that
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: was courageous and UM, I know it wasn't easy. I
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: don't know if you listen to this, you must because
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: you got mad at me once. This is your big
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: kid pain the maker like you again. But good on you.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Good on you for how you explained it. Good on
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: you for pursuing um, for handling the way you did,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: and for telling Derek and Derek. Great on you as well.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: So to have a little more fun with this. I
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: mean this is not like a heavy, like sad conversation,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: but they have a little more fun with this. I
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: want to ask you, well, now Derek's in the place
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: we've seen it be or from paradise. Now he's being
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: talked about as the next Bachelor. I mean he is
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: literally last night on a poll that was done on
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: social media, he is now in third place behind uh
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, uh Peter, and then you have Derek. Is
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: there a chance that Derek Peth could be the next Bachelor?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: I think anything is possible. I will go ahead and
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: do it on your podcast. Uh I am hundred percent
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: team Derek for Bachelor. Like one, he's my good friend. Um,
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: but I have like a whole spiel on it cause
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: I've been thinking about it a lot. Derek is thirty
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: two years old, so that means the women that will
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: come to The Bachelor will be older than twenty two
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: years old, because that would be a big age gap, right.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: I think that was kind of one of the issues
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: with Golden Season. He was just so young that a
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: lot of the women were very young and hard to
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: relate to. No. Two, Derek has a normal job. He's
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: like the s v P of a bank or something.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: I don't really know what he does. It's like he's
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: like Chandler Bying, where no one really knows what he does,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: but it's a it's a job. It's a real job
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: right in New York. And then the uh there for
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: the right reasons thing, we know that Derek isn't going
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: to try to start some career as a singer or
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: a model or something, um, because he already has a career,
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: and he already got engaged on the show and then
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: got his heart broken in that situation. And he looks
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: like John Krazinski, so like though all those things make
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: me think that, like, Mike's a great guy, Tyler is
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: dating Gid apparently, so he's out. I guess Pilot Pete
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: seems like a really, really nice guy as well. But Pilot,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: he hasn't been on my TV in a while. You
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: know who has, Derek, so I think it's a possibility.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: I think he would be a really good one. I
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: thought what he showed last night is a hard thing
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: to do, and it was one of the problems that
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do when I was on that show, which
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: was be funny, be honest, and then also um, be
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: authentic and like showing your feelings. I was never good
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: at Chris. I never cried on TV, not once, and
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: that guy did all those things. I thought, really, really, well,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? I've always said, I don't know
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: any of those other guys. I really don't even know Derek.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: I would agree with every point you made, especially the
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: I know who's been on my TV recently, and that's Derek.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: I think Mike has a great shot because the franchise
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: has to have a black batchlor a Bachelor that we're
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: not maybe have seen for twenty I don't know how
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: many seasons have been on, and he's a he's a
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: good dude for it. He's a great guy, and women
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: like him and he's a big presence. And I mean,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: if if we're not going to choose my guy, I
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: don't know who you would choose, and I don't know
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: what's going on. So it would be surprising to me
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: if Mike isn't chosen. Really it would. If you asked
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: me today, I would say that Peter is number one,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: Mike's number two, Derek's number three. I just I think
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: we would all be too confused at why Mike wasn't chosen.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: If Mike isn't chosen as the Bachelor, I think I
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: would raise too many questions that are probably semi legitimate,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: and but here, but the caveat to that, a caveat
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: to that is this taking anything else out of consideration.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: And let's just talk about the stories that are being
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: told on television and the men right now that we're
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: fully in supportive and rooting for. Derek. Peth is up
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: there with anybody else I've ever watched, And Colton's a
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: buddy of mine. Colton is a friend of mine. I
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: was not in favor of him being The Bachelor. I
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: did not think it was a good idea. I was
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: not rooting for him. I was rooting for him to
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: find love. I didn't think he was ready for a
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: true love. I didn't think he was in a place
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: in his life. It didn't seem like that he was
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: fully sold out on pursuing a part. Now, he proved
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: me wrong, and I've said that he did. He proved
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: me wrong, and he's with Cassie and their dating and
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: it seems like it's going really great and good for him.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: So he did that and he did it well. But
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: coming off of the show The Bachelor or in Paradise,
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: I wasn't in team Colton. I'm I'm rooting for Derek somehow,
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: some way. I want to see him get a legitimate
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: shotify life, and I know, I know how powerful the
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: show can be to help you get there. That's the
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: thing is, I want somebody walking in to be the Bachelor,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: with no ulterior motives, no no foresight of I hope
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: this brings me a new job, or I hope this
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: brings me more money or more attention or whatever I
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: think that will come. It just happens. I want somebody
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: walking in to be the bachelor to say I'm going
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: to give it my all to find a partner in
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: this experience, and even if it fails, I at least
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: gave it my all because it was a gift handed
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: to me to sue people that I typically would never
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: have the chance to pursue. And Derek Pet is somebody
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: that I can fully get behind that right now, I
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: can and I will say I think those three guys
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: all have a shot. I think they're all be great
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: at it. I'm not against any of them at this point,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: but Derek Pet definitely stands out to me as somebody
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for. Do you find it odd that you're
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: not seeing a lot of Mike on your TV screen
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: just in general? Yeah? It is. I think that was
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: one of the things, is like I watched Bachelor Paradise,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: and why am I not rooting for Mike's or he's there? Like,
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: why am I not? Why? Why is my heart not
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: being pulled at this guy? I just haven't seen him.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what he's doing
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, and they're not even using him with
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: like interviews and stuff to like narrate, so like he's
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: still omni president, even though like he's not in a
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: relationship or like him and Sydney aren't like one of
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: the strongest couples. I find that interesting. And I'm not
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: a producer, so I'm not involved in any of that.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: But I try to look at it through the prism
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: of like, well, if they're trying to build someone up
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: and not someone else, this is how I would do.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: And I wouldn't show them a whole lot and I
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: show the other person a whole lot. You know, Yeah, no,
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: I I agreed. I think that is something that's and hey,
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan as much anybody else. Now, Like I
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: watched the show, and I root for the people I see.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: I do. I mean, that's just part of it. I
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: see Derek crying on the beach and getting his heart
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: torn out twice now, and I go, that's a guy
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: want I want to root for. Like, he's not arrogant,
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: he's not an adul he's a nice dude who's trying
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  Speaker 1: really hard to find a partner, and I'll root for him. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know what Mike story looks like.
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  Speaker 1: At the end, I could be switching gears and at
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: the end of this being like, oh, please choose Mikes
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  Speaker 1: hearts broken. I don't know, maybe, but right now I'm
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Derek somehow, some way, and I want
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: him to find love. It well, um, I think it's
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: a good summary of this week's episode. I want to
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: finalize where we're getta a lot of emails right now
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  Speaker 1: about the Twitter wars. I don't want to mention anybody's
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  Speaker 1: names because I really don't want to give anybody any
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  Speaker 1: type of attention or satisfaction for their just complete hatred
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  Speaker 1: on Twitter. But I want to lay this question out
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: there because it's been asking a kind of different arenas
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: and in different ways. What is it about this world
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  Speaker 1: that seems to be make people so vengeful against each other?
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  Speaker 1: We're seeing it now, and and it also gives people
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  Speaker 1: a platform that probably shouldn't have a platform to speak
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  Speaker 1: about topics, if it's gay rights, or if it's minority rights,
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  Speaker 1: or if it is social justice for any person that
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: is suffering from any injustice. Now, all of a sudden,
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: we have all of these Bachelor people taking a stand. Now,
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: granted I'm guilty of that. I ran for office, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm in that world, So I will put myself in
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  Speaker 1: that category. I don't think I am qualified to know
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  Speaker 1: how every single person that is hurting should feel or
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  Speaker 1: how that issue should be solved. But the dangerous part
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  Speaker 1: right now, wells is we're seemed to be over the
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  Speaker 1: last six months in an environment where hatred seems to
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  Speaker 1: be being displayed, not from the trolls on the online
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  Speaker 1: but from the people that have the platform. And for me,
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: that is a switch that seems scary and not great. Yeah, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: I think right now in our society is it is um,
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  Speaker 1: it's not even being condemned, it's almost being celebrated that
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  Speaker 1: you can say whatever you want to say and um,
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  Speaker 1: and you're not shunned Ford or whatever you're you're you're
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: praised or I mean, and from the top down, you know,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: like some of the biggest politicians in the world can
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: say whatever they want on social media and it's a
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: little scary. Um, there's I don't know how to answer
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: that question. I'm just not that guy, dude, Like I'm
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: I'm a waka waka waka let's tell a funny joke
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: on Twitter guy, and like that's just what my thing is.
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  Speaker 1: When people when people okay, had a programmed director in
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: radio years ago that said, you can talk about whatever
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: the hell you want to talk about, but never talk
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: about politics. And I said why and he said, well,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: the second you talk about politics, half the people that
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: are listening to you I don't agree with you and
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: hate you. And guess what they do. They punch out.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: And if they punch out, then alreadys go down and
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: everyone fails. And I feel like that's kind of what's
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: happening in this situation is a bunch of people are
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: punching out because half of them don't care about what
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: the other people are saying. Here's here's the finalized this
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: whole thought is I feel like maybe we've never had it,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: and now that we all have a little platform to
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: speak on, have we lost our ability to reason? So
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: what happens when when when Hayte is beauty, it takes
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: away the ability to be curious, to adjust, to reason,
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: and to come to any type of truth whatsoever. And
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: I just think if the Bachelor World is going to
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: continue on this path, it's going to isolate every single
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: person that comes on the show. And as ultimately, and
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: here's why I'm even bringing up, I think it's a
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: really bad look for the show, and I think it's
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: a really bad look for any future contestant to come
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: on the show because the more and more we the
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: Bachelor people, including myself, and I've got a process through
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: this isolate the masses. It's a it's a representation of
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: anybody that comes on the show in the future. And
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: I think we do have an obligation to try to
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: protect our platforms and who are who are who? Who
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: is our following? And it feels like right now with
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: the hatred being skewed, there is no reason and there
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: is no truth being told. Yeah, I mean a little
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: bit of it seems like, Um, I'm no longer in
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: the spotlights, so if I say some weird stuff, then um,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: people will notice and um, then all of a sudden,
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: I get that high of a bunch of people are
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: are giving a crap about what I'm saying. Thing. Um,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: but that comes to the cost, as and that cost
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: is generally, Um, you look like a tool. Yeah. I
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't know how to just I
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: don't know how to answer your question. Man. We live
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: in a weird world where people are celebrated for saying
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: bad things. Yeah, well, I think that's I think that's
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: a good way to answer the question is let's accept
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: that and one with this, be kind for everyone you
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: know is fighting a hard battle, and every second, Wells,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: we're creating a story. Wells Adams, the co host of
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  Speaker 1: the century, thank you for being on the almost favorite podcast. Wells.
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