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Chuck in the Morning 9/3 H2: It's all about the process.... Thursdays with Softy and whoah, Clippers! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson has had to piece this one together. He
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  Speaker 1: lifted Bryce Miller in the fifth. From Ferrer to Rucker, Dominguez,
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  Speaker 1: and now Criswell. They get to the finish line and
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  Speaker 1: a series win.
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  Speaker 2: The one-two. Swing and a miss. It's over.
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  Speaker 1: The Mariners win it. They take the series two games
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  Speaker 1: out of three. They push 25 runs across in three
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  Speaker 1: games at Fenway Park.
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  Speaker 2: And September is off to a phenomenal start.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess undefeated in September. You know it.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to continue. We're not losing a game all
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  Speaker 3: month long.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be something? Wouldn't that be something?
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  Speaker 4: That would be incredible.
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  Speaker 1: That would be like historic or something.
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  Speaker 3: Fairly certain it would be.
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  Speaker 1: Great morning to you all. It is a Thursday. It
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  Speaker 1: is Ashley Ryan and Chuck Powell with you as we
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  Speaker 1: roll into our second hour. That was Aaron Goldsmith on
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  Speaker 1: the call of yesterday's 8-3 Mariners win on Mariners TV.
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  Speaker 1: The M's do score 25 runs in three games, should
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  Speaker 1: have swept the Boston Red Sox, do come away with
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  Speaker 1: two out of three, and have instilled life back into
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  Speaker 1: themselves in terms of this race. Now, they are still
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  Speaker 1: five games back in the American League West. They are
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  Speaker 1: still eight games under. 500, but they didn't just wilt
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  Speaker 1: and die after... Game one's very difficult defeat. They obviously
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  Speaker 1: showed some fight and are trying to prove that they
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  Speaker 1: are still in a race. And they're done with the gauntlet.
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  Speaker 1: The gauntlet of competition that we discussed for the last
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  Speaker 1: month has come to a close. The rest of the
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  Speaker 1: schedule is comparatively light. And so there is an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe to take advantage of not only bad teams, but
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  Speaker 1: bad teams that are already trying to play for next season. Now,
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  Speaker 1: that means you're going to have a bunch of young
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  Speaker 1: kids who are going to scrap and claw. It's not
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  Speaker 1: like they're going to just give it a half-assed performance.
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  Speaker 1: The advantage is that you're taking on a lot of
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  Speaker 1: teams playing a lot of young kids that might not
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  Speaker 1: be Major League-ready. So that's the advantage that you're going
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  Speaker 1: to have. But you cannot take your foot off the
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  Speaker 1: gas if, in fact, that's where it's landed here recently.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems like it's been hovering between the gas
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  Speaker 5: and the brakes quite a bit. So, I mean, that's...
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  Speaker 5: I wish I was going into this series with all
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  Speaker 5: the confidence in the world, and normally I would. I mean, again,
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  Speaker 5: I still believe that they can do this, but I
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  Speaker 5: just keep going into everything with trepidation.
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  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know what team we're going to see tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Take it day by day, Ashley.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: It's all you can do. It's all you can do.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Cliches. That's what come in handy this time
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  Speaker 1: of the year. It will be Kate Anderson pitching, and
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  Speaker 1: that's exciting in itself to see him pitch again tonight
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  Speaker 1: at home. He'll be going against the A's tonight. right-hander
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  Speaker 1: Jack Perkins, who's very talented but has not pitched all
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  Speaker 1: that well this year. And so that is the pitching
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  Speaker 1: matchup tonight at 640. I don't know if Brendan Donovan's
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  Speaker 1: going to play or not. He went on the trip,
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  Speaker 1: from what I understand, but never did feel... I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he can. The seven days are up on his concussion IL,
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  Speaker 1: but he obviously didn't play in Boston. And now he
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  Speaker 1: flies back, which I'm not sure you're supposed to really,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they recommend flying if you still have
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  Speaker 1: concussion symptoms. So why you would send him on two
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  Speaker 1: flights and then he doesn't even play, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But to hear that, how he got injured, like at
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  Speaker 1: this stage, Brendan, and he's truly one of the nicest
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  Speaker 1: people and great guys that I've ever met. So I
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  Speaker 1: say this with love. Mm-hmm. Dude, you should be showering
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  Speaker 1: with a helmet, considering how many injuries you've suffered. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you shouldn't do anything. You should eat cookies in a helmet.
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  Speaker 3: Can we have them in bubble wrap?
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You should make your morning coffee wearing a helmet and
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  Speaker 1: shin guards. Yeah. Yeah, let's try to get healthy and
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  Speaker 1: stay healthy. What do you say?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, please.
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  Speaker 1: When you get back into this lineup. Quickly, through the
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  Speaker 1: rest of your headlines, brought to you by Frostbrood Coors Light.
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  Speaker 1: Choose chill. We're six days from the Seahawks opener. The
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  Speaker 1: Raiders have more time to prepare for their opener because
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  Speaker 1: they're not champions. But Kirk Cousins will start. That announced
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  Speaker 1: by new head coach Clint Kubiak yesterday. College football week
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  Speaker 1: one starts tonight of the college football season. When I
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  Speaker 1: say week one, it's the first full week. We've got
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  Speaker 1: games Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday, as you know. And
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  Speaker 1: there's not a great game on the schedule this weekend,
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  Speaker 1: if you ask me. But nonetheless, full slate of college football.
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  Speaker 1: It is back, and it starts tonight. The Apple Cup
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  Speaker 1: will be played this year on a Sunday at 1 o'clock,
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  Speaker 1: which you can hear right here on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
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  Speaker 1: The NBA just absolutely crushed the Los Angeles Clippers for
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  Speaker 1: overlooking or arranging that Kawhi Leonard got money beyond the
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  Speaker 1: salary cap that wasn't put on their books. Leonard got
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  Speaker 1: punished as well, but not like Kawhi. The Clippers' ownership
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  Speaker 1: got punished and the organization, and we will talk about
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  Speaker 1: that a little bit later on in this hour. But
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  Speaker 1: I said this to start the show, and certainly we're
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  Speaker 1: going to dive into it now. I do want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about how yesterday started because there were a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people, I think, justifiably angry with the decisions the
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  Speaker 1: organization made, the Mariners organization, with their starting lineup yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, tempers were tamped down a little bit when
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  Speaker 1: you found out that For Cal, he wasn't feeling well,
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  Speaker 1: and so that's why he went to Johnny Pareda in
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  Speaker 1: the game. But I do agree with the sentiment. We
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  Speaker 1: better not be resting Cal Raleigh when he just got hot,
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  Speaker 1: and we really can't treat any game like, well, it's
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  Speaker 1: a rest day. No. Everybody's got to play. Your best
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  Speaker 1: guy's got to play. You've done this to yourself. You've
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  Speaker 1: dug yourself this hole. But we did find out that
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  Speaker 1: Cal Raleigh was not feeling well and that they just
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  Speaker 1: felt for the long term it was better to give
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  Speaker 1: him the day off. And Pareto was terrific again. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's been terrific for us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't feel, I mean, obviously I'd rather have Cal
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  Speaker 5: in the lineup, but when Pareto's in there, I don't
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  Speaker 5: feel like I felt when Garver was in there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He's just been really good. And he's really fun. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's a really good guy to have on the team.
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  Speaker 1: But you can play them both. I mean, Cal can
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  Speaker 1: be the DH, too, by the way. But the real
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  Speaker 1: issue yesterday was the lack of Laz Montez in the
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  Speaker 1: starting lineup. And I agree with everybody, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: that I've heard weigh in on this. I think Luke
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  Speaker 1: Arkins made a reasonable argument for Taylor ward yesterday, our friend,
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  Speaker 1: Luke Arkins, he might've been the only guy that I
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  Speaker 1: saw do that yesterday. Um, and Luke's kind of the
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  Speaker 1: voice of reason in this town. Um, he doesn't go
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  Speaker 1: too far one way or the other. Uh, but, um,
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  Speaker 1: but I agree with the angry people yesterday. It made
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  Speaker 1: me angry that last Montez wasn't in the lineup. Um, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there probably is an argument to be made for, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is why we got Ward to hit left-handers and
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  Speaker 1: Laz is going to play plenty down the stretch and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 1: But not everything can be driven by the percentages. You
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  Speaker 1: make most of your decisions that way. That's baseball. And
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  Speaker 1: I defend that. I defend that constantly. But sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: do have to go with Oh, that was really good
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  Speaker 1: last night, and I want to see that again. And
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  Speaker 1: Laz Montes has not proven to anyone that he can't
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  Speaker 1: hit Patrick Sandoval. That's true. I mean, if it's Chris Sale,
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  Speaker 1: maybe there's an argument. Oh, that's the toughest lefty he's
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  Speaker 1: ever going to face in his entire life. And the
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  Speaker 1: numbers say he doesn't hit him as well as he
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  Speaker 1: does right-handers. So maybe.
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  Speaker 1: But you're facing Patrick Sandoval in his 1.7 whip yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: He's not getting anybody out. And Laz Montes' numbers at
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  Speaker 1: the minor league level did not suggest he can't hit
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  Speaker 1: lefties at all. And unfortunately, baseball teams do this. The
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers did this to Jock Peterson. They just labeled him like,
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  Speaker 1: You can only hit right-handers right off the bat.
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  Speaker 3: Well, didn't we do that to Dom Canzone.
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  Speaker 2: For a while?
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  Speaker 1: And we did it to Dom Canzone as well. And
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  Speaker 1: then not only started that way, but obviously didn't give
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  Speaker 1: him a chance to prove otherwise during the course of
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  Speaker 1: the early part of even this season. His third, fourth
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  Speaker 1: season in the league, and we're still not giving him
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  Speaker 1: a chance to prove it when our offense can't hit.
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  Speaker 1: So they do... And this is all of baseball. They
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  Speaker 1: should be criticized for leaning into that too much, sort
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  Speaker 1: of dismissing someone's abilities. And I just didn't think we
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  Speaker 1: were going to start that way with Laz Montes. I
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  Speaker 1: thought when they activated him, this top prospect who does
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  Speaker 1: have flaws and they are going to get exposed and
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  Speaker 1: it might happen all of this September. We'll see. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he might It might bear out that Laz Montes can't
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  Speaker 1: hit Major League left-handers. We might discover that during the
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  Speaker 1: course of September. But do we have to start that way?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, coming off of that game where he was
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  Speaker 1: the story, how do you not put him back into
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  Speaker 1: the lineup? I mean, would you not put somebody back
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  Speaker 1: into the lineup that hit three home runs the night
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  Speaker 1: before just because the numbers say they don't match up
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  Speaker 1: against the day's next pitcher? I think that is a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that that is overthinking things. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that Taylor Ward, if he were crushing left-handers, I
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  Speaker 1: could understand it a little more. I could stomach it
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more. But I think that it was
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  Speaker 1: a mistake not to put Laz Montez in the lineup yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: even though it worked out just fine.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you hit the nail on the head
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  Speaker 5: when you said, we might discover that he can't hit left-handers,
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  Speaker 5: but shouldn't we be allowed to discover it? Shouldn't he
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  Speaker 5: be allowed to discover it? Shouldn't the Mariners discover it?
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  Speaker 5: And the only way to do that is to actually
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  Speaker 5: put him in the lineup against lefties. You shouldn't be assuming-
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  Speaker 5: He can't do it because the numbers aren't in his favor.
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  Speaker 1: May or may not be right in his favor.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, you've got it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the Bucky put out a thing on X
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  Speaker 5: yesterday and he talked about how, you know, he isn't
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  Speaker 5: as critical of Dan Wilson as a lot of people are.
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  Speaker 3: And we knew that we've talked about that.
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  Speaker 5: But he said someone coming up in that, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you're in their first week within the majors. He should
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  Speaker 5: be in the lineup all the time hitting everybody. And
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  Speaker 5: then you figure out where he how he actually fits
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  Speaker 5: on this team. It shouldn't be, well, you were in
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  Speaker 5: there and you did great. Ooh, but this is going
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  Speaker 5: to be too tough for you. And we don't know
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  Speaker 5: that we think you can do that.
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  Speaker 1: If he gets exposed, then yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but let it happen.
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  Speaker 1: Every game is important.
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  Speaker 3: But let it happen.
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  Speaker 1: But there's also something to, oh my gosh. maybe we've
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  Speaker 1: got somebody that can help unlock this offense. Maybe we've just,
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  Speaker 1: maybe we sat on this guy too long. Maybe he
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  Speaker 1: is exactly what we need. And why would you not
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  Speaker 1: want that element that sparked the entire team the night
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  Speaker 1: before in the lineup the next day, just because at
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  Speaker 1: the trading deadline, you added someone who's not performed for
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  Speaker 1: us to fill this role.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you didn't even have Cal in the way,
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  Speaker 1: because Cal normally is going to take your DH spot. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If you want Parada to catch that game, that next game,
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  Speaker 1: because he's been catching a lot. That's still going to
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  Speaker 1: happen down the stretch. You're going to need Parada to
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  Speaker 1: catch a game occasionally. And I would assume Cal goes
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  Speaker 1: to DH. You didn't even have Cal on the lineup yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: You gave him a complete day off because he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: feeling well. And you still couldn't find a spot in
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  Speaker 1: the lineup for Laz Montes? After what he did two
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  Speaker 1: nights ago? I do think it's a mistake. And I
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  Speaker 1: love the conversation that Aaron and Ryan Rolandsmith had about it.
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  Speaker 1: Because Aaron is right, and it's something that I've said
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  Speaker 1: over and over. We are sometimes too results-oriented in our reactions.
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  Speaker 1: To me, you have to make the best decision for
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  Speaker 1: the team in the moment, and then you hope, playing
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  Speaker 1: the proper angles, that you get the result that you're seeking.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't always work out that way. I've used
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  Speaker 1: this example. If you have the bases loaded and one
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  Speaker 1: out in the ninth tonight against the A's and you
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  Speaker 1: pinch hit Logan Gilbert for Julio, That would be weird.
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  Speaker 1: That is a really dumb decision. That is a profoundly
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  Speaker 1: dumb decision. And you don't get bailed out if Logan
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  Speaker 1: somehow sneaks a single through the infield. No. Oh, what
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  Speaker 1: a genius move by Dan Wilson.
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  Speaker 3: No one saw it coming.
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  Speaker 1: Anybody that would react that way is a fool. Anybody
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  Speaker 1: that would make that decision is a fool. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying that Gilbert pinch hitting for somebody is the
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  Speaker 1: equivalent of Montez not playing yesterday. I'm exaggerating for emphasis.
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  Speaker 1: But there are moments in a season where you do
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  Speaker 1: need to ride the hot hand. There are moments in
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  Speaker 1: the season where you do have to recognize, oh, that's
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  Speaker 1: something worth following up on. You might have had the belief.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if this came from Dan. For those,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because I'm obviously anti-Dan still being the manager
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  Speaker 1: and I'm still pro front office did its job this year.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody knows that about me. This very well probably did
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  Speaker 1: come from on high. This probably did come from Jerry
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  Speaker 1: and Justin in their pregame meeting where they discussed, because
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  Speaker 1: they discuss all of these things from what I understand
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  Speaker 1: before every single game. And it probably did come from
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  Speaker 1: on high. This is why we brought Taylor Ward in.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a better matchup. We're playing the percentages. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe the percentages say Taylor Ward should be able to
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  Speaker 1: hit this guy better than Laz Montez. But sometimes you
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  Speaker 1: just got to have a gut feel. Sometimes you've got
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  Speaker 1: to take advantage of a good thing. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: part of being a manager, whether it's a general manager
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  Speaker 1: or a field manager, to understand, hey, I know the
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  Speaker 1: numbers say that Taylor Ward might slightly have an advantage
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  Speaker 1: here today. But what I watched on Tuesday night from 99,
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  Speaker 1: I want to see more of that. He may have
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  Speaker 1: just delivered us the spark that we need. And yes,
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  Speaker 1: the result worked out. You played Ward. He went 0
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  Speaker 1: for 5, by the way. He didn't contribute to anything.
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  Speaker 1: But you still scored eight runs and you won the game.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't make the decision right. No. Laz Montez
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  Speaker 1: should have been in that lineup yesterday. And that is
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  Speaker 1: an organizational miss. And nothing will convince me otherwise. Now,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully he's going to be back in the lineup tonight
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  Speaker 1: against Jack Perkins. But yes, I agree with everybody that
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: was angry yesterday. That was a mistake, even though it
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: did work out on the scoreboard.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think that most people should be disappointed
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  Speaker 5: or angry or have negative feelings towards not seeing him
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  Speaker 5: in the lineup yesterday. People were texting and then joking
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  Speaker 5: when we were talking about it. Why on earth would
• 15:47
  Speaker 5: we assume he wouldn't have been in the lineup yesterday
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  Speaker 5: coming off the game before?
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  Speaker 1: It shocked me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And we had people texting in, unless they don't put
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  Speaker 5: him in because it's against a lefty, like joking. And
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: then it really turned out they don't put him in
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  Speaker 5: because it's against a lefty. And I just think you're
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  Speaker 5: doing him a disservice. You're doing your team a disservice.
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  Speaker 5: You're doing the fans a disservice.
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  Speaker 3: Let him cook.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You really went there.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 5: I paused before because it kind of made me gag.
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  Speaker 5: But just, I mean, this is, You know, it's like
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  Speaker 5: they didn't watch the game.
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  Speaker 1: If Taylor Lord was killing lefties, fine.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but he's doing nothing.
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  Speaker 1: He's doing nothing.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing at all.
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  Speaker 1: And he doesn't bring anything defensively.
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  Speaker 3: And he's not bringing the energy.
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  Speaker 5: Nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So what do you have to lose? You're not going
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  Speaker 5: to ruin Laz's confidence if he strikes out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or goes 0 for 3.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, let the guy try it.
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  Speaker 1: If he goes 0-3 with three strikeouts and then in
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  Speaker 1: the eighth they bring in a lefty to face him
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: and you want to pinch hit for him, fine. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Pinch hit Taylor Ward like, oh boy, he's really struggling.
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  Speaker 1: They really got his number. Pinch hit for him. But
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: coming off that game the night before, this team is
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  Speaker 1: desperate for something to add to this lineup and provide
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  Speaker 1: a spark.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And Taylor Ward's not done it. He's been given a month.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: And in one night, Laz Montes did more for this
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: team than what Taylor Ward's done since he arrived a
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: month ago.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Half the time I forget Taylor Ward's on this team.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Because I haven't seen anything from him.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, again, I'm with the outrage yesterday. And just
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: because it worked out and we put eight runs on
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: the board and won the game does not justify the decision.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: And so... Um, I, the process that they go through
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and it continues to be this topic of debate and
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: shame on everybody that has absolutely no connection to the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Mariners and thinks that they know exactly how it works.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: It's Jerry and Justin making every decision. Like, you know,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: like Dan's got a smartwatch in the dugout and he's
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: just waiting to be told what to do. I'm telling
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: you right now. At the beginning of the game, they
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: all meet. The brain trust, the numbers that the analytics
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: people have come up with. As I understand it, as
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I understand it, I don't even know. I don't even
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: know the exact process.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Right, because none of us are there.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: But Jerry and Justin and Dan, and I think Cal's
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: in on those, and then they have meetings like, this
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: is who we have available tonight through, you know, the
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: medical team weighs in on it. Pete Woodward weighs in
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: on it. And I don't know if that's all one meeting.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think that it's like up in a tower apartment.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: And they're sitting around a round table discussing it and
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: they all have hoods on and cloaks.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: And then the smoke comes out when they're done.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Right. But there is a conversation every game as to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: who's available, how we want to use them, how do
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: we want to attack them. And then there's a game
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: plan put together for... how that, what the organizationally they
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: feel is the best way to win that contest that day.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: But from what I've gathered until right from the horse's mouth,
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that once the game begins, the decisions are Dan's including
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the lineup. That's what I've been told. Now I don't
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: a hundred percent believe that either, but for anybody that
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: is just blatantly saying Jerry and Justin are in his
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: ear the entire game and they have decided every move
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: that's going to be made.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: You're wrong.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: And if Dan allows that to happen, then he's a stump.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: He is a ficus and needs to be replaced because
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have a backbone. But I don't think that's
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the case either. So as I understand it, that is
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: how the process works. But I do believe that Jerry
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: and Justin probably weighed in heavily on that decision yesterday.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to have Laz Montez sit and Taylor Ward play. And ultimately,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: Dan makes the lineup. That's what I've been told. And
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: he put Ward in the lineup. I'm sure influenced by
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: the conversations that they had in the boardroom that said,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Ward's the better matchup here against Sandoval today. So that
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: would be my conclusion. Again, I don't know either factually
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: how that works, but as I understand it, that is
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: the process. And my guess is Jerry and Justin had
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: a really big say in that lineup yesterday, but Dan
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: ultimately puts the names on on the paper, as I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: understand it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: At least you're clarifying too, though, this is how you
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: understand it and not trying to state it as this
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: is exactly what happens.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: How do you guys not know this? Because that's the thing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: None of us know.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: We're all speculating or going off information we've been given.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Well, I've asked Justin Hollander on air and off air
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: how it works. I've That's how it's been described to me,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: which I think is more than what most people have
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: done that are weighing in on this subject on social media.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. Or even on our own airwaves. Yes, exactly.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, we got Thursdays with Softie.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: They start today. By the way, Greg, usually at 7.05.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: We just gave him the day off, so nobody panic.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: He'll be back tomorrow at 7.05. But Softie's next. Sports
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Radio 93.3 KJRFM. He has just become the king of
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Huskies football, and he is our co-worker. I'm blushing.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: A place for birds to poop.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep. I want birds.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: We're tired of birds crapping on Don James, so crap
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: on Softie.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Don't crap on DJ. Right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I think we could direct them to crap on you.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: That's fine.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Everybody else craps on me. We'll be the birds.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: He's back for another season as the ringleader of the Hawks,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: and this year he's added a new responsibility. He is
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: going to be the sideline reporter during Huskies games. Congratulations.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: um for that um are you gonna go craig sager
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: are you gonna go like crazy jackets on the sidelines
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: i know you're gonna add some sort of special touch
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to this role what are you gonna.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: Do yeah i'm just gonna find a new sponsor for
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: every game by the way hats shirts the whole thing
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: right sure just i just like a walking corporate logo
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: every single weekend by the way so if you see
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: you see somebody with a you know barbasol hat and
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: uh i don't know uh nordstrom shirt Uh, you know,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Brooks running shoes, whatever.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: That's me. I'm, I'm your, I'm a corporate shill, man.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, thanks.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I like the way that you said that, by the way,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: you're adding sideline reporting.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Well, I think you do enough on Husky Saturdays. I
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: can't believe you want to do this as well, but
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: if anybody can do.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: It, they forced me. Is that right? Me to do it.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: They said, look, pal, we need to do more. So
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: you're doing this. I don't know. Hey, you know what?
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Are we, uh, are we still in the Mariner playoff
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: wagon together? Uh, You and me? Barely. Barely, yeah. Okay.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: But sure.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Why not?
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, mathematically, yes.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I got them 16-6 the rest of the way.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Well, that'll probably do it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: 82-80.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: 117 win pace the rest of the way.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that'll probably do it. Astros go 11-11.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: We got to go 16-6 to catch them.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Who will win more games, the Mariners the rest of
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: the way or the Huskies this season?
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I think the Huskies are going to be a 10-win
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: team in the regular season, 10-2. I'm taking the over 9.5.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: By the way, the over 7.5 in Vegas feels like
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: candy from a baby.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I get kind of nervous sometimes saying stuff like that
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: because you're like, what am I missing here, man? 7.5,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: if they win their three games in non-conference, which is Wazoo, Eastern,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: and Utah State, They've got to win five games the
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: rest of the way, and they've got a lot of manageable,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: winnable games on their schedule.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So, I don't know.
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: I would say, well, the Mariners, because I've got them
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: going 16-6. They're going to catch fire. Dan Wilson's 35-18
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: in September since he showed up here as the Mariner.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: This is where he thrives.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: This is where it kicks in.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: That's right. This is what we call nut-cutting time, big boy.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: This is when Dan turns into John McGraw. Yeah.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: The month of September. See, I'm glad that you're feeling positive, man.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Good for you. Good for you.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: How strange is it for you to have an Apple
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Cup on a Sunday?
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not very. Not very.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's great. It's the only game
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: on TV in the world on Sunday. You want to
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: watch a live football game, there's only one choice, and
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: that's the Apple Cup at 1 o'clock. I think the
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: ratings are going to be ginormous for this game across
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: the country. I mean, imagine being in Vegas at a
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: sports book or the Umbra Queen, wherever. and you want
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: to flip on a football game at 1 o'clock on
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: a Sunday afternoon. You've got one choice. So that, to me,
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: is really appealing, I think, for both these teams. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: think Jed Fish is going to want to put a
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: show on, by the way, in this game, just like
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: he did a couple years ago when he's throwing up
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: 30 points in the fourth quarter, hitting Amari Evans on
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: that late touchdown pass, 52-24 with three.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Minutes to go.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: UCLA is up 41-14 with seven minutes to go, and
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: he's throwing 25-yard touchdown passes. I went back and looked.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: There was a game against Utah when he was in Arizona.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: They're up 35-18 with 32 seconds to go, and he
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: throws a 51-yard touchdown pass from Jaden Delora.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: To Ted McMillan.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: So this whole idea that he's going to hold off
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: the gas, no. And you know where he gets that from.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: He gets that from Spurrier, who's got that line about,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: you know, it's not my job to stop me from scoring.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: So I think Jed Fish is going to want to
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: put a show on this Sunday at 1 o'clock.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: What will it take for this game to still be
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: being played in 2036? Cougar fans want.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: To play it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: End of story. I don't know if they can stomach it,
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: to be honest with you. I don't know if they
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: can stomach it financially, not playing it as well. I
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: think that's something they've got to figure out. But, I mean,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: I said this on the show yesterday. I don't know
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: if you guys have noticed this or not. And, you know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: the week of the Apple Cup, obviously it was always
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: in November. But the week of the Apple Cup, there
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: used to be a lot of anxiety in the office.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: And there's none of that right now. None of it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Like, I'm talking to the three or four Cougs that
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: we had in the office yesterday.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Are you going?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: No.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: They just don't give a damn. They don't care.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: You know, I got buddies of mine that are Coug
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: fans that are scheduling tee times at 1 o'clock on Sunday.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Intentionally.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Because they'd rather play golf than watch the game. Exactly.
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: So, I just don't know if the desire is there
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: to keep this thing going. Now, it may not matter
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: because the administration of Wazoo may say, look, guys, we've
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: got to play this game.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: We need the money, right? Whatever.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: But Chuck, I know for a fact that you pull
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: the Cougar fan base right now. I think you'll get
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: more Cougar fans that will want to just take their
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: ball and go home. If we're going to get our
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: ass kicked, we may as well get our ass kicked
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: by somebody else that we don't live with. It's not
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: going to bust our balls the entire.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Year, right? Yeah.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was wondering because if Jed Fish
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: does put the– put the hammer down, if he gets
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the chance to blow them out and does blow them out,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that probably doesn't lend itself to more Apple Cups in
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: the future.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, why did Lorenzo Romar cancel the series
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: with Gonzaga back in the day? Because they were getting
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: their ass kicked. I mean, as much as I love
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: UW and as much as I love Lorenzo Romar, I mean,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: he got tired of it. It's pretty simple to me.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: They just said, we're not doing this anymore. I think
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: that's what Jed wants to do on Sunday. Will he
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: be able to do that?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: We'll see.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, they got a bunch of new guys at
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: wide receiver, a bunch of new guys at running back.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: You know, the core of the offense is obviously the
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: offensive line, the tight ends and the quarterback. So we'll
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: see what they do. They're going to play all three
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: of these guys. Quade Carr, Trey Cooley, Jaden Lamar at
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: running back. All three of them will play. They'll use
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: the preseason to kind of figure out, you know, who
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: their best guys are before they head to.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: USC in Week 5.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I know there's a Minnesota game in between there, but
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: that's the big one in Week 5.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: They should be 4-0.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Anything less than 4-0 is an absolute disaster for Washington.
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: And then at wide receiver, you've got a bunch of
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: new guys. Transfer Christian Moss, the kid from Kennesaw State.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, Des Roebuck is back. But, you know, Rasheed Williams,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: Jordan Clay. There's a lot of new names there, man.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: So I think he wants to do that. He wants
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: to drop the hammer on Sunday, but will he be
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: able to?
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: We'll find out. We'll find out. That's a great cliffhanger
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: right there. What is the thing that you can't wait
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: to learn more about about this Huskies team? As you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: watch them for the first time, what are you most
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: excited about learning about this team?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I want to see what Cody Green and Derek Coleman, Broussard,
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: and Ramzak Fruin are all about.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: The freshmen! That's right. All three of them. 18 years old.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: I don't ever remember Washington starting three 18-year-old kids on
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage from the opener. We've seen guys
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: play before on the line of scrimmage. Nick Harris was
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: a freshman. Trey Adams was a freshman. I think Rosenhoson
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: and Parker Brailsford were redshirt freshmen. You know, we've seen
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: guys get in the rotation and guys even start late
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: in the year. But from the opener, I don't ever
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: remember doing this.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And having like a thousand percent trust that they are
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the right guys for the job.
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: Like you look at them and you're like, you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: why do you trust these guys? And they look at
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: you like you got nine heads. Like, what are you
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: talking about? They've been killing it in camp, right?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's a nice soft landing spot, you would think,
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: for all three of them. They're not playing Ohio State, right,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: or Indiana in the opener. So they got a good little,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of, you know, soft landing for the
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: first three or four games before they head to L.A.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: In week five.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: And I'm just looking forward to seeing how much havoc
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: they can wreak on the defensive line and how much
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: help does Cody Green need at left tackle. Do they
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: help him with guys chipping? Do the Cougs come after
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: him from the jump and maybe try to take advantage
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: of an 18-year-old kid making his first start? I mean,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: there's going to be some growing pains, you would think,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: for these guys, right? The question is, how many? Like,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: when the Seahawks started Gray Zabel in that Raider preseason game,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: A year ago, he was getting whipped around for a
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: little bit, but that was in the preseason, right?
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Games didn't count. So, I don't know.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, to me, that's almost the number one thing
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to seeing on Sunday.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the number one reason now, and it's
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: risen quickly to the number one reason why I want
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the Mariners to go 16-6 the rest of the way,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: because I want Fane to have egg on his face
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: after he's just continuously tweeting about how he knew 19
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: days ago what we didn't know.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the team was terrible. They were 10
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: games under.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: 500.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: So it's not like we're climbing out on a limb here, guys,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: by saying the Mariners are done, for God's sakes. My
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: whole thing from the start has been the schedule, right?
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, again, my optimism, if I have any, for
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: the Mariners really doesn't have anything to do with them.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: It's got everything to do with who they play.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, they got 17 of their final 22 are
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: against three teams that are currently like 97 games under. 500.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: In Colorado, the Angels and the A's. So, look, I mean,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: is it a long shot?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Of course it is.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: But would it shock you with a week to go
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: if these guys found a way to pull within two
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: or three games of first place and made this a race?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: No.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: No. I'm totally with you. Yeah. 100%. Yeah.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: All right, man.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: You know what? Unlike Dick, I just choose to be
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: a positive person.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: You know, unlike Dick, you got a big heart. You know?
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: You're going to work with this guy at 3 o'clock today,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: by the way. Hey, man, can I talk to you?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: About my big heart? I do have a big heart.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Jackson's been going back and forth like it's like a
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: ping pong.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Oh, I know.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Like a tennis match. I'm in. I'm out. I'm in.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I'm out. It's like, who was in a league of
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: their own? Remember Marla Hooch?
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: She kept going back and forth on the field, sticking
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: her foot in, sticking her foot out. That's what Jackson's like.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: He can't decide if he's on the wagon or not.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, did you see the odds,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: by the way, for the West? Last week they were
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: plus 180.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Now they're plus 500 to win the division.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: At the Emerald Queen.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: So you're getting some real value there, boys.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you that right now.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Baseballreference.com yesterday had them as like a 7% chance to
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: make the playoffs, which is basically winning the division.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: All right, man. Well, have a great year, all right?
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: We're looking forward to Thursdays with Softie again this year.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: And have fun on Sunday. It's going to be great
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: listening to you.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: There's no way we can do this later in the
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: day at, like, 11? 11?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think I can pull it off at 11.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: That would be a great feature on Greg's show, though.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I don't know. I'm just trying to give
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: you my best stuff.
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's 7.30 in the morning.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: I'm still a little raw.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to have it at 11 either.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never going to have it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Right. You keep working on it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: You'll get there.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Hey, by the way, Mariners went from 7% to 10.7
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: with that win yesterday.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Look at that.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: We're moving in the right direction, boys and girls.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Told you.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: They've got it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: All right, man. Talk to you soon.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: All right, see you guys.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: There he is, David Softy Mahler, the one, the only,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: joining us Thursdays with Softy back this year, but at 7.30,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: not at 7.05. Coming up next, man, did the NBA
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: bring the hammer down on the Los Angeles Clippers? We'll
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: give you the details of that and whether or not
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: it clears the path for another decision we're waiting on.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM. Coming up, we do have
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the showdown, number two, back-to-back days, previewing the college football season.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Today we focus on the Big Ten Conference by doing
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: our annual Big Ten fantasy football draft right here on
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: the radio program. And now under the brand-new umbrella of
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the showdown, what used to be called the Green Jacket draft,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: now includes listener participation. It will be a listener team
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: all season long. Every draft that we do will also
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: be incorporating other shows during the course of the year.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: So excited about the showdown. It's coming on at 8
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: o'clock here today. I want to let you know that
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: next Wednesday, just six days away from the Seahawks getting started,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Ashley is going to be hosting an event, a Seahawks
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: event at Tulalip Resort Casino. When all you want is everything,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Tulalip is there for you, including throwing huge parties on
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the opening night of the defending world champions' first game
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: of the season. Ashley's going to be there with prizes,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and there's food, and there's drink. I mean, I think
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: you've got to pay for it, probably.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not free food and drink.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: It's free entry.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Free entry, and so you're going to be out at
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the amphitheater area, 3,000 seats out there, so you know
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the audio and the video is going to be fantastic,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: and you know the host is going to be fantastic.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: And I looked at the weather, and next Wednesday is
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: supposed to be like 77 degrees. There you go.
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: Perfect to be outside, perfect for the Seahawks to open
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: their season and kick the Patriots' butts.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Let's make it hurt Diana Rossini.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: You beat them so badly.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: And the best part, if you are at Tulalip, you
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: don't have to leave your seat to gamble. So you
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: can make bets as the game's going on.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: How about that? I know.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Kind of fun.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: So yes, if you just want to be around 12s,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: but you're not going to make it to the game,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: maybe that's a perfect option for you.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: It'll be fun.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a lot of fun next Wednesday at
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Tulalip Resort Casino. I do have to mention this story,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and more than just mention it, the Los Angeles Clippers yesterday.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Holy moly.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: The NBA weighed in on this. I was starting to
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: hear that there might not be punished as much as
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: what you think. And then, bam, they got crushed, the Clippers.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard, whatever connection he has, they did an investigation
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: to extra monies that he was getting that obviously might
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: threaten the integrity of the salary cap. So the NBA
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: did its investigation. And then yesterday they announced that, oh, yeah,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: they're guilty and we're going to crush them for it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: They had their next five first round draft picks taken
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: from them.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: It's incredible.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: I mean, although I was reading something that said like, well,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: if they're on good behavior, it's like a prison sentence.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: You get a reduction. If you're on good behavior, you
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: might get some of them back.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't even read that part of it.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Well, it was just people talking about it and speculating
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: that it's happened before. I guess the last time back
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: in the early 2000s, there was another team that got
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: punished this severely. And after two years, they ended up
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: getting some of them back. But you can't plan for that.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: That's for sure.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: And then, yes, Bomber being suspended for a year and
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: the $ 30 million fine. And then Kawhi Leonard... I mean,
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: he got off pretty easy with a $ 700, 000 fine, honestly.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's getting ready for a big pay increase
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: if they go through with the trade that they made
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: this offseason with Toronto. But I know that draft picks
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: in the NBA aren't as valuable, aren't seen as valuable
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: as they used to be. That's why teams will now
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: trade seven future picks for Giannis.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: As an example.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Unless you have a lottery pick, they just don't seem
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: to be all that valuable. But the Clippers are getting
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: ready to go through a rebuild. I mean, they've traded
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: away Kawhi Leonard. They are planning to restock like they
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: watched Oklahoma City do. They were planning that. And you
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: can't really do that without your next five first-round draft picks.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: This is like a crushing blow to them. Plus, several
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: higher-ups have been suspended for either a half a year
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: to a year that they can't have anything to do
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: with organizational responsibilities.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: So.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: That is quite the bar that Adam Silver has raised.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: And hey, if you want to get your message across
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: that if anybody... is messing around in this area and thinks,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: I'm not serious about our salary cap. This is how
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: you send the message. And so precedent has been set.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: And I like high precedents being set. If you want
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: to give a warning sign, give a warning sign. Make
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it severe. Put a scare in the rest of the
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: league that might be dabbling with this So that they
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: can put an end to it. And this does it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: I like a large, high warning precedent. And that's exactly
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: what they've done in this case.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, very much so.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And so I said that there's like a local connection.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Not much.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I'm probably grabbing at straws here. But if it seems
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: like Adam Silver can only do one thing at a time,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: he's like me. Yeah, don't call me while I'm making toast.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: Either I'll burn the toast or I'll be bad at
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: our conversation.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: One or the other.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Or both.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Burnt toast and a terrible conversation?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Right, because I might try to split my interest between
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: the two and end up ruining them both. Apparently Silver's
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: even worse than me because he can't think about the
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Sonics expansion until he's done with the latest thing that's
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: on his desk. And he's now apparently done with this,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: so maybe now he can focus on expansion, and maybe
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: we'll get an answer soon regarding the future of the Sonics.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: That's my twisted way of looking at things. All right,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: coming up next on our radio program, we preview the
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Big Ten Conference. season this year in college football. Like
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: only we do it, it's time for a draft on
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.