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Chris Williamson doesn't get feminism 5 "Is the Red Pill a Mirror of Feminism???" | Rantzerker 194 · Honey Badger Radio

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  with Chris Williamson doesn't get feminism. Number five five last one, last one
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  five by because we accidentally did two, because we did two yesterday and I
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  So here we are buying a new format. You can see myself and Brian,
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  wouldn't be able to show you her icon with its mouth moving yeah with yeah
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  when it talks. When I talk, I feel like God. But but
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  no, and you also wouldn't see me sitting here with a ball right next
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  to me, just in case I need to puke. So, yeah,
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  we don't want to see that. Yeah, well, I mean, I
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  guess I could turn off my camera when I feel it coming on, but
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  you know what I feel like Sometimes the gagging is like contagious, Like I
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  see somebody start to gag and I'm like, oh god, yeah, okay,
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  stop stop stop stop. Okay. Al you ever hear that at five
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  a m. In your bedroom? Well, I don't. I know you
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  two don't have cats, but oh no, this is a dog sound.
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  Yeah, and they make it. And the really horrible thing is when dogs
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  do this. The whole time they're making that noise, they're smiling, like
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  their lips are turned up at the corners and they're just like they're just they're
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  looking. It's like evolutionarily like that's no. It's like this terrified smile.
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  They're like, hello stranger, Hello rapist. I don't it hurt me.
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  Something's happening on my handsides and I really don't like it. But it's gonna
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  happen right where you live, and you're gonna have to clean it up.
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  Okay, that's what dogs are thinking when they're doing when they're making that noise,
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  and you just make it a race for the leash and the door,
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  like get them outside onto the lawn. Okay, well who knew that would
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  we were gonna start with that, right, Yeah, no, I could.
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  I could at any moment be running for the bathroom. I don't it's
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  just a stomach bug. It's or food poisoning or something doesn't doesn't encourage it.
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  I don't think so. I don't get nauseated by feminists. They just
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  make me angry. See if I can change this with a little bit brighter,
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  a little less. Uh, hope, you're fine. You look fine,
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  I'm looking right, Yeah, awesome, it looks fine. I'm glad.
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  A little self conscious about my teeth because they come on really in this
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  light. They don't look great. Uh need to go to the dentist and
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  get some some polishing done or something. All right, let's start, all
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  pretty pricey these days. So if I have to throw in a hundred bucks
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  just to get you guys over the top, I'm gonna be mad, okay,
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  because somebody's not getting any coal and they're stalking. They're not even getting
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  it. Coal. Don't don't make it so that Karen's children are deprived of
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  their coal. You know what I heard? I was watching one of those
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  like Ozarks, Let's go, let's go to the I think it was the
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  Ozarks, Let's go to like these these haulers up in deepest darkest Americana and
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  correct me. I know I'm what I'm saying is probably cringing because I'm just
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  a Canadian. I don't know anything. But anyway, and they were they
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  were talking about mining in I think it was like West Virginia. Yeah,
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  and the guy was talking about he was, yeah, I'm a mining industry
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  is booming because of all of these electric cars. So we've been just strip
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  mining mountains for coal. Yeah, yeah, no, just putting it in
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  power power plants, charging the electrical grid and charging up those evs. M.
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  It's an excellent system for reducing something. Yeah, reducing the impression,
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  reducing the existence of mountains in the West Virginia landscape, and the reduction of
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  guilt in stupid liberals in big blue cities. God. Yeah, no,
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  I like anybody, anybody with any kind of engineering experience or scientific knowledge knows
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  that every time you convert energy from one form to another, or even from
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  electricity to electricity. So even if you are running an electrical current along an
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  uninterrupted line, okay, from the time it starts to the time it ends,
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  it will be weaker at the end of the line. Okay, this
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  is just how it goes. And if you are if you're charging your cordless
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  drill, right, it's sucking more electricity out of the wall, then it
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  will be able to output from the battery. That is just how it is.
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  Okay, I agree that hybrid vehicles are a great idea. Hybrid vehicles
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  are an excellent idea because you have a big battery, you have a gas
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  tank, and when you're using gas, it's the alternator is supercharging this giant
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  battery. So when you don't need the torque, when you don't need the
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  horse power, when you're just parking or like cruising, you know, at
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  thirty miles miles an hour in a residential area, you know you can run
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  on the on the battery. You don't get to charge that battery except through
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  the passive means of an alternator that funnels the energy from the the gas engine.
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  Let's just conclude this. Let's just conclude this. I'm just saying.
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  I'm just saying electricical vehicles and don't strip mine West Virginia. All right.
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  I can see Brian entering a state of quiet zen waiting for us to actually
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  get back on topics. So let's just start the video. I just imagine
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  I know what you're just saying. You're just saying, how stupid people are.
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  Yes, it is truly upsetting how stupid people are. So let's get
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  into more of it on topic. All right, I'm going to play some
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  of the video now of what why she wasn't going to get out over with
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  regards to this, And I was like, that's like a I wish that
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  she'd just bro science to way through stuff because its funny. But what she
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  did was she decided I'm going to hold myself within this sort of within my
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  realm of expertise. And I was like, that's a pretty good indication of
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  somebody that's acting in good faith with a lot of experts, like and trying
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  to be really really accurate with what they say. Since she's released it,
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  she has been slammed online, absolutely slammed. And what I've seen I like
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  his laugh because he's basically saying, of course she's yeah, it doesn't.
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  She was very careful and like measured and like in good faith and everything,
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  and she was like jumped to any conclusions and she was just like, yeah,
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  no, I'm not saying why, I'm just saying this is what is
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  I'm going to be the Watson here, this is this is the the female
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  researcher, don't know her name, the female researcher who published a bunch of
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  stats on father's outcomes of from fatherlessners. Yeah. Yeah, And you know
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  why they do this because they know that this data debunks their theories. Well
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  you know what else they know? Okay, and this is something that oh
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  god, there was this like sort of a conservative feminist. I forget what
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  her name was, but her and Bettina Aren't did a talk years ago on
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  fatherlessness and the outcomes. And what they were asked was from the audience.
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  It was an audience question like, Okay, do all fatherless children have these
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  problems, right, these negative outcomes? Right? And they were like,
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  no, children whose fathers died don't appear to have these m right. And
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  I'm like, well that seems kind of weird, right, But then I
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  thought about it, and I'm like, Okay, well, what's the difference
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  what's the difference in quality of life and upbringing? Between a child whose father
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  died overseas fighting in Afghanistan or who died of cancer or whatever. Right,
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  the mother misses the dad as much as the child does, right, the
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  mother if she shit talks the dad at all. It's like I'm so mad
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  at him for dying, and I know he didn't have any choice, but
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  it's still, you know, it still makes me angry, right, okay,
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  which is something that the child is also feeling lost his dad. He's
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  going through the anger phase. Okay. She's not shit talking men, She's
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  like, oh, how I wish I had your father here? M hm.
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  Right. And for boys who lose their dads, right, And there's
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  no dad out there that mom is keeping away from you or who is has
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  abandoned the family, right who Either mom is like, now I'm poisoning him
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  against poisoning you against him, or he's like, no, I don't want
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  anything to do with this. There's no dad out there to be mad at
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  in that way to feel abandoned by because he died. He died in the
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  car crash or something, right, So it's like, okay, And probably
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  because the father died when the parents were together. They're probably living in a
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  neighborhood full of two parent homes and kids with two parents, so there's probably
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  a bunch of granddad is in the picture, uncles are in the picture,
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  yeah, and neighbors you know, best friend's dad probably you know, willing
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  to take him under the wing, right, and you know, and now
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  this is the thing, like when they talk about non negative outcomes with fatherlessness,
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  I wonder how much those outcomes are less because of the situation the mother
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  has put the child in being not that bad, and how much it is
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  because the mom has a dad, The mom has brothers, you know,
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  And and so the boy still has relationships with men that can't necessarily be as
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  easily destroyed by the mother. So it's not an and it's not a situation
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  where the mother is doing anything good. It's that she has severely damaged her
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  child, but the men in her life can make take up some of the
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  slack. Yeah, oh yeah no. And and the thing with you know,
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  when you have these like men deserts as they call them in the UK,
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  right where it's like there's not a single male over the age of maybe
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  twenty three for like square miles of a neighborhood, what you have is a
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  bunch of young adolescent boys, right, Well, you have a bunch of
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  primary school boys who are growing up in a matriarchy. They're surrounded by adult
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  women that's not a male role model. And you literally have the same feminists
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  who say that women in college need to have. They need to be able
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  to see that women can be professors, that women can be engineers. They
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  need to see it in order to think that they could be it. Right,
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  Okay, well, what do you think an elementary school entirely populated by
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  female teachers is doing for or six year old boys? Are you expecting?
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  Like, and I don't see why, you know, because I gave this
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  example of my younger son, right, who's I think it was grade three,
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  his first male teacher, and he thrived. He thrived under that male
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  teacher. He was eager to learn, the teacher had control of the class.
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  He looked up to the teacher all of that. And I said,
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  you know, like he did really good that year, like really good that
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  year. And she's like, well, he should be able to see a
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  female teacher as a role model. And I'm like, you're the same fucking
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  bitch complaining that a college aged, fucking woman, a twenty two year old
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  woman can't see a male professor as a role model, or a male scientist
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  as a role model, or a male engineer not just because it was a
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  role model, but because the teacher had a particularly good way of teaching based
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  on the fact that he was a man. Well yeah, that too,
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  okay, but it really have a takeaway. The takeaway of all of this
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  is that is laughing because he knows exactly what this woman is experiencing. He's
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  bringing up all of the things that we're bringing up here right now. And
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  the feminists, what's the response to destroy it? Murray Strass who found out
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  like it's it's undeniable that their symmetry and domestic violence. Women are just as
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  violent, they're just not as effective with their violence. And incidentally, one
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  of the things, like the death rate could be just that men could sustain
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  more damage before they die because the use of lethal violence are potentially lethal violence
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  is almost is almost equal between men and women. It's just that when you
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  shoot a man, he's more likely to have enough blood to make it to
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  the emergency room. But anyway, he found Murray Strass found that there is
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  reciprocal domestic violence. I believe he was originally a feminist until the feminist came
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  after him with pitchforks and torches and attempted to, you know, shove them
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  up his ass like they were just like now now mm hmm, and uh
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  yeah no, and I'm I'm just like, I'm looking at it and I'm
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  thinking, like any like, the worst thing that you can do to a
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  feminist is present contraindicating data. And even though they refuse to admit that this
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  data invalidates their theory, and yet they they attempt to destroy it constantly.
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  This is what's freaking hilarious. I was in a long discussion on twitter burn
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  it with fire burn it, yeah, and I was I told a feminist,
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  all right, and this is how I use the whole falsified. How
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  do you falsify your belief that men in power equals women oppressed? Okay,
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  this is your assertion that there's a causal relationship between men in power and women
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  being oppressed allegedly, how do you falsify that. I'm not saying, is
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  it that it's false? I'm saying, how you falsify that? That is
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  a basic basic element of science, of doing science versus doing religion, that
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  your statements are falsifiable. Okay. If you don't have falsifiable statements, that's
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  religion or wu or superstition and you know, or philosophy. Okay. And
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  I went back and forth, back and forth. She insisted that saying that
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  she has to make that statement falsifiable means that it's proven that it's false.
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  And she basically said, I can't falsify that statement because there's no way it's
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  false. I'm like, well, that's not science, and any causal relationship
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  in science has to be falsifiable and can't be expected accepted as scientific until you've
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  made the effort to prove it wrong. So how do you does fire need
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  oxygen? Yeah? Yeah, how would you falsify that you would try to
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  start a fire outside the presence of oxygen? Exactly? That's how you would
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  make it falsifiable. Yes, And she just refused, refuse to engage with
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  that. And but what's really funny is even though feminists refuse to engage with
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  science by making their allegations and their causal relationships falsiviable, telling other people and
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  attempting to prove that they're not falsifiable by proving that they like what you do
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  as you say, well, this is how I falsify the statement. This
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  is what the steps I need to take to attempt to falsify my assertion,
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  and then you take them, and if you can't, then you have evidence
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  that it is a strong assertion. Okay, they refuse to do that.
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  That means that feminism does not acccupy a space even in any relation to science.
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  But regardless, what's interesting to me is, even though they refuse to
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  tell us all how to falsify feminism, they still attack the very evidence that
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  would do you see what I'm getting at? No, they yeah, yeah,
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  no, They really don't want anybody to know about any of this,
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  and and they will go after anyone who actually disseminates it, particularly people who
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  are feminists or who are women. I think like the feminists leave me alone
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  now because they know they're not gonna fucking get anything useful out of me.
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  Okay, let's watch a little bit more though, Let's let's see we're correct
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  and what Brian is giggling about it. Although I don't think that this is
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  going to happen to her. I've seen somebody who is probably on a political
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  compass test center left, certainly somebody who wrote a book to try and reduce
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  inequality between class groups. Right, this is exactly exacerbating the precise inequality that
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  we don't want to have happened, and so on and so forth. And
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  it was written as far as I can see with a good amount of compassion.
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  But I'm seeing the exact mechanism by which many people become radicalized to one
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  side or another side of some sort of aisle because they think, well,
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  I mean, if I guess the only people that are ever going to listen
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  to me about the woes that I have, about the justified or sometimes unjustified
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  antipathy or self pity that I've got, Well, like, I'm going to
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  go with the group that accepts me, accepts me, I'm not going to
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  keep on, you know, trying to work. Here's ninety eight percent of
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  my entire world going toward you. Group that says that you despise me,
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  and I'm an entitled more on in cell or something like that, right,
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  Yeah, I know you're not just an entitled insull You're rapist. Yeah exactly,
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  You're the most horrible thing that society can conceive of. Yeah. No,
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  rape is worse than death, don't you know. Yep. That's why
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  that's why women all commit suicide when they're about to be raped. Mm hmmm,
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  that's why rapists only get the rape corpses. Okay, you heard it
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  here. Well, that's why that's why rapists who kill their victims before they
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  rape them, they get clemency in court, in sentencing, they get they
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  get like it's it's a mitigating factor, not an aggravating factor. Really Yeah
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  no, if if, if you didn't you know that, Alison, If
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  a rapist beats his victim to death and then rapes her, he doesn't get
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  as long a sentence as the man who rapes the woman and lets her live.
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  Yeah. No, no, that's not how it works. Everybody knows
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  that rape is not the worst thing ever. It's just the most useful thing
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  ever. Okay, let's keep going. It's the most politically useful. Yeah,
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  politically useful weapon. Rapist, I'm a rapist. Really, a rapist
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  in his heart is like straight out of the New Testament original Sin. So
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  yeah, just my point being that, you know, I see here,
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  especially the antipathy, it creates this ever escalating cycle, right that spins up
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  and up and up, and people become more virulent in their distaste and their
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  lack of ability to see the other side's issue. And this is how you
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  have, you know, two groups of people largely just talking past age.
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  Oh, this is ridiculous, Chris. You have one group of people that
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  is absolutely one. You see a couple, one member of the couple is
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  absolutely beating the shit out of the other one, and they that member that
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  that that member of the couple is able to define how the other one is
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  seen in the greater world. They're able to enact anything, They're able to
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  say anything to them and physically aggress against them, and then they they one
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  other half of the couple occasionally, you know, grumbles about it. That's
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  what you're actually seeing, and it's a dynamic good, Yeah, it's it's
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  it's media. They control academia, they control government, They control a whole
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  host of incredibly fraudulent charity organizations that exist solely to give their board members gigantic
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  pay packets. You know, they control all of this. They have a
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  complete lockdown on the narrative. When you look at anything that has a paper
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  trail attached to it, so anything with a significant budge, they have a
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  lockdown. What did the in cells have forums? Yeah, and some lunatics
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  you know, who were probably are not doing they're not being aggressive, they're
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  not being violent because they're in cells. They're aggressive and violent because they probably
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  have been abused and they have cognitive malfunctions that lead them to low impulse control.
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  And also they're like the Alecmannassian thing. What was the precipitating factor?
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  He lost his job, okay, and then he was bounding the one thing,
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  the only thing, the only thing that made his life worth living.
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  Yeah, yes, he lost his job and he lost it. Okay,
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  that was what happened there. It had nothing this guy. Here's the thing.
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  People who kill. Men who kill don't understand why they do it.
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  If they did, they wouldn't kill. So when they yap, when they
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  flapped their gums, that's the least likely thing to be their motivation. Just
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  latching onto something that will give them attention. Don't you get that? All
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  right? That's why what was it? Ted Bundy talked about pornography, so
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  all the feminists would be like, oh no, he just he just talked
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  about pornography because he thought that was going to get him a call from the
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  governor. Yes, they just do this to get attention. They latch out
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  of the most sensational thing. But they're absolutely deluded about their own motives.
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  I guarantee that they're The motives of men who kill are two one. They've
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  been severely abused too. They have cognitive deficits. That's oh you you want
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  you want to know about Ted Bundy. Apparently his mother was actually his sister
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  through his childhood. Like it's it's it's really freaking weird. His his entire
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  situation was just like, my mom had me out of wedlock. I was
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  adopted by my grandparents that I was given to who I thought was I told
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  all my life was my sister, but she was really my mom. Then
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  she married some guy who like hated me, and you know, like but
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  at the time it was said that like he there was no history of family
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  trauma or abuse or anything like that. You know, in his past,
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  you'll get Edmund Kemper, Okay, Edmund Kemper, the guy who was in
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  the I think it was a Netflix series or an HBO series called mind Hunter,
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  right about the Behavioral Science Unit, the origins of the Behavioral Science Unit
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  at the FBI where they it was basically where the term serial killer was coined.
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  And Edmund Kemper was their first case study. And you know what was
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  his situation. He was extremely tall, very overweight, unattractive, had very
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  poor eyesight, where wore coke bottled glasses. And his mother raised him alone
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  and berated him. It was a case of selective child neglect and targeted child
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  abuse. You know when a parent singles out one of their several children right
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  for neglect or abuse. Right, I just hate this one child, and
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  I'm going to treat this one child very poorly. So it's not a matter
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  of she just couldn't manage it. She just couldn't handle it. She just
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  wasn't able to cope with the burdens of being a mom. No, she
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  took very good care of his sister and treated him like crap. And one
• 28:56
  of the things that the the two agents who interviewed him to figure out,
• 29:03
  like what makes a serial killer? Right, one of the things can present
• 29:07
  to them was, you know, it's a horrible thing when a mother denigrates
• 29:12
  her own son. Yeah, and he killed a bunch of girls and young
• 29:22
  women, and then he killed his mother's friend and his mother. Right,
• 29:26
  It's like, well, you know, there was probably something wrong with him
• 29:33
  from the get go, right, But maybe it wouldn't have gone that way
• 29:37
  if she hadn't singled him out for abuse and disdain. And you know,
• 29:45
  I'm ashamed of you women for men's violence and I'm like, yes, I
• 29:49
  am. What are you gonna do? Well, I not every time,
• 29:57
  but you know there are times when it's applicable. Yeah, but here's the
• 30:03
  thing. You gotta take away that weapon. It's like, yeah, I'm
• 30:06
  blaming women. Oh oh wow, I didn't spontaneously combust in the world didn't
• 30:12
  turn inside out. Yes, women are to blame. Four things. There
• 30:18
  are the Well, first of all, we're just blaming this one woman as
• 30:22
  a contributing factor. No, But the thing is that this is what they
• 30:26
  do. They say you're blaming this one woman. That means you're blaming all
• 30:30
  women. O yah, no, but we're no, but we're not this
• 30:36
  one woman. This one woman. Well, how did she get away with
• 30:38
  it? How did she get away with abusing her son all through his childhood?
• 30:47
  Well? Yeah, like because she was a woman. Women are abusers.
• 30:55
  But what I'm what I'm ultimately saying is that, well, somebody's told
• 31:00
  me that I can't do something, and I'm gonna do it. Well,
• 31:07
  welcome to the club, Allison, exactly. Good. That's a good response.
• 31:11
  All right. So I just want to remind everyone we are doing our
• 31:14
  monthly fundraisers or about this, Brian, I can see they're waiting patiently to
• 31:18
  become service. He's probably reading like the Epic of Gilgamesh or Macbeth or something,
• 31:25
  or Beowolf or the Nifflelogodmund whatever that that opera. No, I'm doing
• 31:33
  one more than that. I'm reading the chat. You're reading the chat.
• 31:37
  Oh gosh you oh oh yours? Your brain will break? Oh my god.
• 31:48
  Okay, So I just want to remind everyone we are doing the monthly
• 31:52
  fundraiser, and I do need to really compel or request that you guys help
• 31:57
  out because we have that one little bit left. It's we're really close four
• 32:01
  hundred and seventy five bucks. If somebody could just even put five bucks in
• 32:07
  there, that I'd be really appreciated. So I feel like we're making some
• 32:08
  kind of progress. So I heard compel. Yes, I will compel you
• 32:15
  with my hypnotic rays. No you need you need a latex cat suit?
• 32:23
  Yeah, no, do it? Do it? Nobody wants to promise that
• 32:30
  you'll consider putting on a latex cat suit. Yeah, I don't think there's
• 32:36
  enough latex. What You're not the heavy I'm I'm I'm sort of heavy broad,
• 32:45
  I'm dwarf shaped, you know, like it's more like a gnome of
• 32:52
  a gnome shaped. Yes, I'm a gnome shape. I'm getting there.
• 32:59
  So you're going shorter, Karen, How is that possible? Sorry, you're
• 33:06
  you're becoming shorter like that's the gnome shape. It's shortness, you're Yeah,
• 33:09
  I know your spine compresses. I used to be five eight and a half
• 33:13
  now on five seven. Ooh, maybe maybe you need a chiropractor, like
• 33:19
  you just pull you out like an accordion boom, then you'd be good.
• 33:22
  Or I need one of those things that Batman uses to hang upside down.
• 33:29
  Ye Oh, that's pretty crazy. I could just hang upside down while I
• 33:34
  sleep. All right? Okay, so, uh, nobody has gone yet.
• 33:39
  Somebody somebody just put five bucks in there, so we were moving somewhere.
• 33:44
  Please so feed the Badger dot com slash support. I don't know do
• 33:49
  we have something that can we do? The whaling feminists they want my children
• 33:52
  to not even get cool? Like does other voice sounds right now? Okay,
• 34:02
  well let's let's do a little bit more then. Yeah. I mean,
• 34:07
  I only think about what Scott Alexander calls the Gray tribe, and this
• 34:10
  is the which he admits it's still a tribe, but it's a tribe with
• 34:14
  different norms and better norms that's trying to not actually fall into being either of
• 34:19
  the either the blue tribe or the red tribe, as we call them confusingly
• 34:22
  here in the US. Obviously, so with every other country in the world,
• 34:25
  read equals laugh, But somehow in the US, ready, yes,
• 34:30
  and then blue, I don't know what it's like the side of the road
• 34:32
  that you drive on. You got it the wrong way round? Yes,
• 34:35
  but where do you I think we're at least close to the only hundred that
• 34:39
  has this color scheme. But anyway, uh yeah, so that makes quite
• 34:45
  a lot of sense. I mean, your thinga mentioning and then you know.
• 34:47
  The Scott Aronson reaction to this was just to write a piece defend or
• 34:51
  excuse me. The Scott Alexander reaction was to write a piece for Scott Aronson
• 34:55
  and saying, yes, like, there is this group of shy mill nerds
• 34:59
  who who want to talk to women. They're not very good at It doesn't
• 35:02
  mean that they have any horrible anything. They're very usually very nice people.
• 35:09
  It's just that they don't really know how to talk to women. And the
• 35:13
  only way to learn is to try it and not be very good at it
• 35:15
  a first. So can't you go and cut them some slack? I think
• 35:19
  is totally reasonable. Point. You had an idea women being held to a
• 35:23
  standard of responsibility, but that's not reasonable in any sense. No, it's
• 35:30
  it's really not the world needs to be. What we need to do is
• 35:35
  make it so that women are not expected to be held at any standard,
• 35:37
  and that would be the ideal utopian world. Yeah, weirdest. The weirdest
• 35:44
  thing is the female friends that I have tend to be like really hyper responsible.
• 35:52
  I have a friend, Okay, she just found out she's got some
• 35:58
  growths on one of her care niece and she's angry because her boyfriend found out.
• 36:07
  She was at the hospital because she had The whole reason they found that
• 36:10
  these growths was because she had a kidney infection and she had to go in
• 36:14
  for IVY antibiotics for three days running. And her boyfriend found out and showed
• 36:22
  up at the hospital and started asking her questions, and then he stayed the
• 36:30
  night three nights in a row, and cooked and did dishes for her and
• 36:36
  looked after her well. She was sick, and she's like, I think
• 36:40
  I need to break up with him, and I'm like, are you fucking
• 36:46
  insane? She's like, I don't like feeling dependent on other people. I
• 36:55
  feel like he's trying to like get me, you know. Like, but
• 37:00
  she she was kicked out of her house by her parents when she was fifteen.
• 37:06
  She's been living on her own, self supporting since she was fifteen,
• 37:12
  dropped out of school, got two jobs, and it's like and she she
• 37:19
  just she just can't let anybody take care of her. And I'm like,
• 37:25
  well, I identify with that, but I maybe fifty three, you're thirty
• 37:32
  seven, and I am ready to let myself be taken care of sometimes.
• 37:39
  Yeah, maybe you should open the door to that, right, I honestly
• 37:45
  that that's I think at some point you can take that a little too far,
• 37:50
  Yes you can. And this is this is this is why I think
• 37:53
  I have related to the men's to men's experience, because I have always felt
• 38:04
  like a massive obligation to always be productive, never be a burden, always
• 38:12
  be self sustaining and sustain others, right, and nobody's holding me to that
• 38:20
  standard except myself. I can't even imagine what it would be like if there
• 38:30
  were other people who were gonna shame me for falling short of that. Nobody's
• 38:35
  gonna shame my friend or me for being unable to carry the weight of everybody,
• 38:43
  right, but they will do it to the men in our lives.
• 38:46
  And so that was part of what really kind of pulled me into looking at
• 38:55
  the male perspective, because I'm like, I opted in, and I'm not
• 39:01
  actually forced into it. I opted in, I volunteered. I'm a volunteer,
• 39:07
  not a draftee. Right, So as a volunteer service member in that
• 39:15
  same vein, I look at the draft's and I'm like, oh, fuck,
• 39:21
  sucks to be you, especially if it doesn't suit your character or your
• 39:23
  personality or your capabilities, right, you know, it just really really sucks.
• 39:32
  And then like if I give up and I just say I want to
• 39:37
  be taken care of and all of that, I won't be shamed. You
• 39:44
  do the same. Oh no, it's fucking Shamesville. Welcome to Shamesville population
• 39:50
  language what then I think he's just trolling. At this point, I think
• 39:58
  he's I said, welcome to Shameville population. You He's just he's being He's
• 40:04
  He's no, I thought you, I thought you let out a cuss earlier.
• 40:08
  Oh I might have. Yeah, I might have, but you know,
• 40:13
  all right, so he didn't. Do you want me to cut five
• 40:16
  dollars through? We took. We got somebody to put five dollars through,
• 40:20
  so we got Is that a super child? Kenneth s No, it was.
• 40:23
  Actually it actually went to the to the fundraiser. Kenneth has pushed five
• 40:30
  bucks through. So thank you Kenneth for responding to my cry of help.
• 40:34
  And now we just need another forty five dollars I think, no eighty.
• 40:38
  Oh we're super close. I did get a super child from a Norwegian for
• 40:44
  five dollars. And he says justice for Brian's mustache. I assume you're talking
• 40:47
  about Brian Kaplan's. I shaved mine this morning because it's yours, especially no
• 40:52
  longer November. So and yet, No, I don't know if you've ever
• 40:57
  had a mustache before, but if it gets really bushy, it's like it
• 41:01
  gets in your mouth and it's really annoying, so you have to, like,
• 41:05
  I have to shave after a while. Oh, you had a Lannie.
• 41:07
  It was it was turning into a Sam Elliott, you know, like
• 41:12
  Lannie McDonald. Yeah, okay, so somebody else also put through five dollars
• 41:21
  or twenty five or fifty and let's get this finished. Well no, no,
• 41:24
  I'm saying, please do oh what yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
• 41:28
  that'd be great. That'd be Great's pretty close. You're pretty somebody, anybody,
• 41:34
  anybody help us? Okay, feed the badger dot com slash support and
• 41:37
  again, if you do want to send us a message's feed the badger dot
• 41:39
  com slash just the tip. And if you ever want to see Alison in
• 41:44
  a latex cat suit, you'll fork over right now. That's my promise.
• 41:52
  I'm just saying, if if you ever wanted to see that, you know,
• 41:59
  you better give her some incentive. She needs convincing. I would have
• 42:07
  to, okay, play more of the video. Yeah, she's not going
• 42:13
  to do it. So the next section gift of her badger. So that
• 42:20
  so that's the end of the are you guys listening to me? Or that's
• 42:25
  the end of the section of that section. To sum up, Brian Kaplan
• 42:31
  is arguing that there are, you know, two sides you could call like
• 42:39
  extremes, but the reality is that there's one side that's created the other side,
• 42:45
  and of course Chris Williams on the other side is an extreme. It's
• 42:52
  like, can is it? Is it? Just? Please? Okay?
• 42:54
  Can we talk? Yeah? Exactly, it's not ext That's what I'm saying.
• 42:58
  It's not extreme at all. But Chris Williamson is dodging, and he's
• 43:00
  like, oh, it sounds like a crazy game of ping pong that I
• 43:04
  don't want any part of. And so I'm just gonna like stand over here
• 43:07
  and in the center, in the center and not just judge both sides,
• 43:13
  Like, guys, can we just stop fighting? Like, man, you're
• 43:15
  both just so ugh? Can we go back to when men were just being
• 43:20
  beaten over the head by every institution in the world by these women or these
• 43:25
  people. It's not just women, it's women in the simps that serve them.
• 43:30
  Can we just go back to that and just stop complaining? Because that's
• 43:31
  essentially what we're doing right now. When you say, ay, sides,
• 43:35
  you're basically saying, can we just go back to before I had to hear
• 43:37
  about this, and it was that people were just silently suffering and killing themselves
• 43:43
  in like the in the background in the alley, so I don't have to
• 43:45
  hear about it because this is annoying me. Well, it's like it's centrist.
• 43:52
  By the way, this is why go ahead. It's kind of like
• 43:55
  the amicable versus the hostile divorce. Yeah. It it only takes one combative
• 44:04
  person to make a divorce hostile. Right. It requires two amicable people to
• 44:13
  make a divorce amicable. Right. You don't you don't like it's not it's
• 44:17
  not like a both sides thing. When there's a hostile divorce. When there's
• 44:22
  a particularly contentious divorce, you can have one perfectly reasonable person who's willing to
• 44:29
  concede, you know, and be fair on every Believe me, I live
• 44:34
  this, concede and be fair on every single issue, right, and one
• 44:39
  side that is determined to make problems, and there will be problems. And
• 44:46
  it's like that. That is literally what they're saying is you have you have
• 44:52
  two sides here. You have you have women who have basically been bashing men
• 44:57
  for decades, right, and you have men complaining about being bashed. And
• 45:02
  it's the men. Oh, it's the exact it's the exact equivalent. Guys,
• 45:07
  stop it, stop fighting. Beats you up. Uh. Yeah.
• 45:14
  Also that the both on both sides just seems to end up just blaming men.
• 45:22
  Feminism has turned the whole situation into a gigantic, flaming mess, and
• 45:28
  men are saying, well, look this is and they did this, and
• 45:30
  then they say, well, why are you increasing the problem? And that's
• 45:35
  what's it's really really irritating is you got feminists running around with flamethrowers setting things
• 45:40
  afire. You got the men's rights movement being like they're doing that. You
• 45:46
  see that, right, And they're like, well, why can't you get
• 45:51
  along? Why can't you You're just as bad. You're blaming them for setting
• 45:59
  five. Yeah, yeah, no, we're not just as bad. You
• 46:05
  know what would just be just as bad is if the majority of the men's
• 46:08
  issues movements because I want to include all of the people who don't call themselves
• 46:13
  men's rights activists, other because they don't feel like they activate enough to justify
• 46:16
  the label, or because they're they're more interested in just promoting the issues,
• 46:21
  or because they just don't like the label, but they're still pushing forward on
• 46:24
  the on the men's issue side, if there was a critical mass of us
• 46:29
  that had an unfalsifiable belief that women rule all, like a completely unfalsifiable belief,
• 46:37
  not just gynocentrism as in uh benefit of cruise to women, but also
• 46:43
  that women completely control everything. There's nothing that men can do. They are
• 46:49
  completely a response to women. All right, there's there's no backers, they're
• 46:54
  powerless, there's no back and forth, there's no and it was completely unfalsifiable.
• 46:59
  So the person the people who assert this have no way that of saying,
• 47:04
  well, I mean you could just show that buyer can be be burning
• 47:07
  without oxygen. No, it was an unfalsifiable, almost religious belief system.
• 47:14
  There's nobody there. There is nobody on the other side like that, Like
• 47:17
  I mean, maybe the closest you could come to, I think, and
• 47:22
  that is the is the red pillars who think that women can't don't have,
• 47:27
  can't be, can't be morally responsible. I mean, there's a whole bunch
• 47:31
  of Christian women throughout history that seems to defy that. But whatever, women
• 47:36
  can't be morally responsible, right, Oh, I think they can when they're
• 47:39
  forced to. Well that's true about everybody. Why do you think we have
• 47:44
  the legend of Bilgamesh? Now? The But my point is this, or
• 47:49
  an additional point, what is the two sides really like? Are the two
• 47:54
  sides men and women? Uh? Are the two sides feminism and and the
• 48:00
  non existent masculinism. Okay, because nobody on the men's issue side is pushing
• 48:07
  this idea of original sin for women, at least not consistently. We don't
• 48:13
  all ascribe to the masculinist theory that everything is ruled by women to their own
• 48:20
  benefit. I mean, I'm sure there's some people who do, but a
• 48:22
  lot of us are either just interested in ameliorating the issues as they are interested
• 48:29
  in legal equality, or interested in recognizing that this is a dynamic that's hurting
• 48:35
  everybody. But the answer is not men are to blame, Okay. The
• 48:39
  solution is not to blame men more. Okay. So there's a wide variety.
• 48:45
  So it's not like there's two sides. But here's the other thing that
• 48:46
  I want to point out to the both sides, the centrists, I think
• 48:52
  the best way to go will be daggering everybody to the table. Let the
• 48:58
  feminists have their set, but let it be no greater than the masculinists who
• 49:04
  believe that women oppress men and hate them throughout all of history, and that's
• 49:08
  how women have been defined. Let them have their say, and then let
• 49:14
  us have our say. Why don't we just deal with these issues. Why
• 49:16
  don't we stop blaming men it's not working, and then let everybody else have
• 49:21
  their say and let's have a discussion. Let's have a genuine discussion instead of
• 49:25
  using the aggression of feminists and then turning around and saying, no, it's
• 49:31
  the people who are bringing up men's issues that are making them angry. Why'd
• 49:35
  you make her punch you dude? Like, no, let's bring everybody to
• 49:39
  the table, give everybody an equal voice and hash it out. I think
• 49:43
  that's the true centrist position. Yeah, well, okay, that would be
• 49:46
  the true centrist position. But I don't think that there's any I think that
• 49:51
  it's a rare, freaking men's advocate who would say that women have hated and
• 49:57
  controlled and oppressed and mistreated men and throw over history. Yeah, no,
• 50:02
  no, no, no, they're they're like basically, every every conservative man
• 50:07
  that I talked to do something something went haywire in the sixties and seventies,
• 50:16
  right, if they're willing to go back even that far, because most of
• 50:20
  them are like, oh, it was third wave feminists that really put things
• 50:22
  to nineties, right, Yeah, it was the nineties, And I'm like,
• 50:28
  no, no, it was it was the eighteen fifties, right like,
• 50:32
  go look, go, look, right, whenever you give women political
• 50:38
  power, there are going to be women who abuse it against men, right
• 50:46
  like when men get when men have political power, they will abuse it also,
• 50:53
  mostly against men. So, but at least in terms of what it
• 51:00
  is, the one the one group of dudes that actually believes that men have
• 51:05
  ruled, or women have ruled, oppressed and hated and subjugated men throughout all
• 51:08
  of human history. We need to bring them to the table, give them
• 51:12
  an equal, say to that of feminists. And then it's true like nobody
• 51:16
  has more. Here's the thing, nobody has more clout. Everybody has exactly
• 51:22
  their point of view, and that's it. And when we're in that position,
• 51:25
  then we can start doing all well, must both sides centrism when there's
• 51:30
  it's actually a level playing field. And you got the dude who says,
• 51:34
  yeah, women have oppressed men through all of human history. Men will never
• 51:38
  be free of them. Therefore, we have to reduce women down to a
• 51:42
  population of about ten percent of purely for breeding purposes. And also men can
• 51:47
  check them out from like a library if they want to have sex with them.
• 51:52
  This is this is actual feminist thought. By the way, guys,
• 51:53
  Yeah, so you got to you gotta find that dude, give him exactly
• 51:58
  the same amount of cloud influence, reach money as a feminist as a feminist
• 52:05
  who say that ship and then we'll have then we can start talking about centrism
• 52:10
  and both sides. That's what That's what I'm That's what I'm saying. It's
• 52:15
  like, yeah, but you know what, that I'd be fine with that.
• 52:16
  Bring him on to the table, Bring the feminists on the table,
• 52:20
  bring the the the male theorists to believe the opposite of feminists except reversing the
• 52:25
  genes. I think the best they were, like they could do because I
• 52:30
  think that like the reason why some of the these like figures that get associated
• 52:37
  with the Manisphere or the red Pill become sort of prominent is because there is
• 52:45
  I think either people or algorithms working to promote the most popular but also like,
• 52:57
  uh, let's say, despicable voices on the Manisphere side, So guys
• 53:02
  like that are not popular with some of our audience, like Andrew Tait and
• 53:07
  fresh and Fit. I think the reason why those guys get put forward is
• 53:10
  because they're the worst. They're the best examples of the worst parts of the
• 53:15
  manisphere. And even they are not nearly as bad as your average feminist.
• 53:21
  Like, they're not nearly as bad. Like Andrew Tait is basically like trad
• 53:25
  now he exploited people you could say whatever, who cares And basically but like,
• 53:30
  he's not really a red pill thinker. Sorry, I've watched enough of
• 53:34
  his content to know that there's nothing going on there that is especially enlightening in
• 53:38
  my opinion. And Fresh and Fit are basically like you know, they they
• 53:43
  basically adhere or they operate with women who could be considered the lowest common denominator
• 53:51
  in cursive in terms of their ability to you know, think, and and
• 53:55
  they gain. But but like and look, I don't mean this like to
• 54:00
  be mean to these women. I get it because they're they are also some
• 54:04
  of the most attractive, so they're getting an idea of what the the you
• 54:07
  know, the the high end. I guess you could say women are thinking,
• 54:13
  and that's that's got its use, but it's not. It's it's not
• 54:17
  the best example. You know, that'd be like Paul, they're dealing they're
• 54:22
  dealing with the women who will fuck a guy because he drives the Bugatti.
• 54:27
  Yeah, yeah, right, so but but but my point is those those
• 54:30
  two examples are the best that the media can do to do to draw any
• 54:37
  parallels to your regular feminist academics, not even not even the radicals, just
• 54:44
  like a regular college professor that that teaches gender studies in any university, and
• 54:49
  it's not even close. The disdain is not even close. So this is
• 54:53
  the best they can do. So I'm you know, I think that's worth
• 54:58
  pointing out. So that's why the central bothers me because I think, you
• 55:00
  know what, I just think it's cowardice. It's just cowardice. Like Chris
• 55:05
  Williamson, those where his bread is buttered, he doesn't want to shrock the
• 55:08
  boat. He's if he's in any way in pursuit of truth, it's inevitable.
• 55:14
  He's gonna find himself where we are inevitable unless he basically continues to be
• 55:19
  He was just describing that other woman as being tepid, and he saw the
• 55:22
  consequences of that, and now he's still like, well, how do I
• 55:27
  approach this? Well, I think you're gonna have to, like you either
• 55:30
  care about the truth, and you're gonna move forward. And it's gonna take
• 55:34
  you wherever it takes you, or you're gonna keep dancing on the fence like
• 55:37
  this. And I mean like you can do that if you want to.
• 55:39
  But the truth is, the value is like you just had this guy,
• 55:44
  Brian Kaplan on. I mean like there are people who watch this that are
• 55:47
  probably getting red piled right like as they saw this video. So there's no
• 55:52
  I don't know. I guess you can't get again from it. What I
• 55:57
  like Brian Caplin, I don't think he's falling into the centrist. Well here's
• 56:00
  the problem. No, I don't think No, I don't think Brian Kaplan
• 56:02
  is doing that at all. I think that he's very he's being very legit.
• 56:07
  I'm saying Chris Williamson is trying. It's like if Chris Williamson invited like
• 56:12
  somebody like, uh, you know, Paul on and and Paul and I
• 56:15
  don't I don't think he ever will, but let's say he does. Eventually.
• 56:19
  If Paul goes on there and drops like a million like red pill bombs
• 56:22
  on the audience, Chris Williamson will back off and be like, WHOA,
• 56:25
  Well, we don't want like, you know, we don't want crazy in
• 56:29
  cell shootings happening, because this is where it's going to lead to. It's
• 56:31
  not going to matter because his audience is going to be like, wait a
• 56:34
  minute, Actually, I do know a guy that's been through a divorce like
• 56:37
  that. I do know a guy falsely accused. I do know a guy
• 56:39
  who lost his kids. So they're What I'm saying is is that Chris Williamson
• 56:45
  can pretend to be centrist to protect his channel, but he is not going
• 56:52
  to be able to escape the truth. So what I'm saying is that this
• 56:55
  guy is a real big like you know, hate of truth. And I
• 57:04
  think he was trying to testes are his testes are biffurcated. His testes are
• 57:08
  like completely separated, one on one side of the fence, one on the
• 57:13
  other side of the fence, and they're of roughly equal size and separate.
• 57:19
  Yeah. No, And and is he's sitting he's he's sitting on wherever he
• 57:24
  thinks the fence the acceptable fence is. Yeah, right, Well the fence
• 57:30
  moves and I'm sorry, I I have to I have to just step away
• 57:36
  for a few minutes. Some super one dog who's shaking, yeah with his
• 57:43
  witch thack out, So yeah, okay, go deal with your dogs.
• 57:47
  Let me read the super childs because I got like three at least, so
• 57:51
  all right, I got one for fifty. Thank you so much from an
• 57:54
  anonymous person. And they say, you guys often talk about new men's issues
• 58:00
  content, but are too modest to mention that many of them also monetize.
• 58:06
  Oh you're talking about other men's like guys that monetize on female sexuality by inviting
• 58:10
  dahl d up three oh four's talking about their dating life. I mean,
• 58:15
  I don't know what you want us to do about that, Like that's their
• 58:16
  business. People with a more profound perspective on ginocentrism like you guys, Paul
• 58:22
  and other ICMI speakers never needed to do that. Nevertheless, kudos to Pearl
• 58:27
  for moving on to talking with the ICMI crowd. Anyways, keep up the
• 58:30
  great work you're doing. Looking forward to all your content and especially Allison's book
• 58:34
  to inspire us and grow the community. Thank you anonymous person for the donation.
• 58:39
  Is that over? Uh well, okay, no, it's a little
• 58:45
  bit complicated because guys have done some crazy, crazy crazy Shenanig is in the
• 58:50
  background. I wanted to say I appreciate that Pearl is talking to us,
• 58:55
  talking to people on this side. I appreci that. That gives big props
• 59:00
  to me from that. I know she's a gadfly. I know she likes
• 59:04
  kicking the hornet's nest, and I know that offends a lot of people.
• 59:07
  I can sort of I actually feel for her, because when you're told you
• 59:13
  can't do something, I'm the kind of person who's like, yeah, but
• 59:15
  now I really want to do it absolutely yeah. It's like, God,
• 59:21
  damn, did you have to tell me no. I was just gonna walk
• 59:23
  on by, but then you told me not to do this thing, and
• 59:29
  now I have to just because you told me not to. And I'm sort
• 59:34
  of like, I get that. I get I get that feeling when you
• 59:38
  watch when you're watching a bunch of smug, self righteous people and you're like,
• 59:44
  I know I shouldn't pull that thread, but I really want to.
• 59:49
  I just just because I know, I get it. I get that motivation.
• 59:54
  I don't know if it's the most productive thing in the world. I'm
• 59:57
  pretty sure I'm not the most productive person in the world either, So where
• 1:00:00
  can I judge? You know, you know the channel or that your talk
• 1:00:05
  is supposed to be uploaded toube that channel that Pearl runs. I think she
• 1:00:08
  said in an announcement. I think she said, I could be wrong,
• 1:00:12
  she was going to be focusing on that channel and that like her other stuff,
• 1:00:16
  because she said she's tired of like talking to random well not randoms,
• 1:00:20
  but like you know women on her old show that put her on the map,
• 1:00:25
  because she's tired of talking about that stuff because it doesn't go anywhere.
• 1:00:29
  And it's like, yeah, you're right, yeah, yeah. So it
• 1:00:31
  seems like she's interested in like actually like making a difference. Okay, so
• 1:00:37
  here's what's going on. In the background of the fundraiser. You have a
• 1:00:40
  bunch of super chowds we need to go through. Oh by the way,
• 1:00:43
  thank you for the shout up for my story. It is progressing. I
• 1:00:46
  have a little bit. I have this recorded video that I did that I
• 1:00:50
  was going to put up on Wednesday. Then I was going to put it
• 1:00:52
  up on Thursday, but this thing kept extending, Like our response to Chris
• 1:00:55
  Williamson just sort of it's like the silly snake that came out of the canistry,
• 1:01:01
  you know, like the Pringles silly string or the spring snake and the
• 1:01:08
  Pringles can like this. This this video has been like the ever expanding foam
• 1:01:15
  of videos. But I might put that out. Gives a little bit of
• 1:01:20
  an update of where I'm at with the story, and yeah, I might
• 1:01:23
  put it out on Sunday if you guys are interested. I know it went
• 1:01:27
  out and it went to a video that doesn't exist, but but you know,
• 1:01:30
  that's how I roll. I have to be a little bit esoteric and
• 1:01:34
  confusing, but it's all the just incompetence, all right. So I want
• 1:01:39
  to thank remote Ruby for putting in exactly four hundred and sixty bucks, which
• 1:01:45
  doesn't put us over the top. It puts us with it, like we
• 1:01:49
  need ten dollars more. Well, you are the goat for that, My
• 1:01:53
  friendly goat, well pretty much filled up the rest of it, but just
• 1:02:02
  left a little bit just a troll, so we have we still have ten
• 1:02:07
  dollars left. I don't know if anybody wants to put us out of our
• 1:02:09
  misery. If you do feed the Badger dot com slash support. I noticed
• 1:02:13
  that when I did a call out, all of you sort of rushed to
• 1:02:15
  put in superchows, which was interesting. If you want to if you want
• 1:02:21
  to get me to stop talking about my little boy's penis here because he didn't
• 1:02:27
  have to pee. His lipstick was out, but he didn't have to pee.
• 1:02:31
  No, it goes out when he has to pooh. And it reminds
• 1:02:36
  me of that tweet that I put out because I was like, it's expressions
• 1:02:40
  I have. I have never owned a male dog, let alone an intact
• 1:02:45
  male dog. Is it normal? Is it normal that when poohing they spring
• 1:02:54
  a boner and stare at you in a very very awkward, creepy ways.
• 1:03:01
  And a whole bunch of people replied, close the bathroom door, and I
• 1:03:10
  was like, no, it's when he's pooing. Well, I do have
• 1:03:15
  an attacked male dog, and we usually take him to the bush to go
• 1:03:19
  poop, and he usually you don't say no, we see him because we
• 1:03:24
  don't want him to go too far, but he's usually turned the other way.
• 1:03:28
  And I don't think. I mean, he used to be a lot
• 1:03:30
  more excitable, shall we say, when he was a little bit younger,
• 1:03:35
  but he seems to have grown out of that, although he still has a
• 1:03:37
  cat who's this very especial favorite friend. Oh No, mine is like,
• 1:03:44
  uh, if he needs to if he needs a poop, he's making awkward
• 1:03:49
  eye contact with me unbroken. Okay, And and there is like at least
• 1:03:55
  three inches of lipstick out of the tube, and just like, what the
• 1:04:01
  hell, Well, you just got a little pervert dog, That's all I
• 1:04:05
  can say, Karen. Oh, yeah, no, he is. He
• 1:04:09
  is actually because when she comes in from going out, he's gotta sniff what
• 1:04:14
  she peeded and uh and then and lick it. And it's disgusting. And
• 1:04:21
  he waits until she's busy with her food. He's a sexual assaulter. Oh
• 1:04:29
  yeah, no, And it doesn't matter how much he yelled at him about
• 1:04:31
  it, He'll still do it. My dog is, except I'm pretty sure
• 1:04:35
  that's enthusiastic consent by the cat. Yeah, I got some more super childs.
• 1:04:45
  Stir Bryan. I can I can feel that the horror just emanating.
• 1:04:51
  Maybe maybe I'm speaking for you there. This is why this is when Borat
• 1:04:56
  is my husband's best friend, it's because they're so nova. Fan gives us
• 1:05:02
  ten dollars and says, I haven't heard any real news confirming this, but
• 1:05:06
  I heard recently from a migtau channel that uses text to speech that gyms are
• 1:05:12
  starting to lose customers because men are becoming risk averse to being falsely labeled a
• 1:05:17
  creep by gym thoughts and are now building their own home gyms. I say,
• 1:05:25
  I can keep it up. I think that's true. I think that's
• 1:05:28
  true because he literally did have a trend on TikTok and Instagram of women in
• 1:05:36
  gyms who would like they'd set up a camera while they were working out,
• 1:05:42
  and they'd work out so that people could watch them working out online later or
• 1:05:46
  maybe even live right and there would then there would be a man in the
• 1:05:51
  gym who would actually watch them working out and admire their body, and they'd
• 1:05:59
  be like, oh my god, I'm so offended. He's like such a
• 1:06:02
  sexual assault because he didn't pay five bucks for your exclusive content. There was
• 1:06:11
  this guy who does He was on TikTok. I think his name is Joey
• 1:06:15
  Swoll. We did a response video to Joey Swall once. Apparently he's been
• 1:06:21
  like getting he's been getting like run through the ringer by the feminist media,
• 1:06:27
  basically like he's holding women. So if you hold women to any standard,
• 1:06:33
  the feminists will come after you if you if you even imply that women are
• 1:06:39
  doing something that could be potentially construed as very very nasty, like anti social
• 1:06:45
  or antisocial, or women are doing something with antisocial like not allowing their kids
• 1:06:49
  to have access to their fathers. They will come after you because they are
• 1:06:55
  one percent against holding women to any kind of standard. That's misogyny. That's
• 1:07:00
  why they're great. Icons are uh witches who often were, like guys,
• 1:07:05
  witches weren't the best people ever. Yeah, I know, they were like
• 1:07:10
  sacrificing newborns all the time. Yeah they were. They were. There was
• 1:07:14
  some psychotic shit going on with witchcraft, and as far as I can tell,
• 1:07:19
  for the most part, they had they actually had court proceedings and in
• 1:07:25
  some cases, if someone falsely accused another a woman of witchcraft, they themselves
• 1:07:30
  would be persecuted for a false accusation. So there was some due process for
• 1:07:34
  witches onlike rapists today or alleged rapists today, or men who may have consensually
• 1:07:42
  showed their penis to a woman and then she decided to allege that that what
• 1:07:47
  consensual activity was unpleasant. Therefore me too anyway, So it's like this,
• 1:07:54
  this is the history of witchcraft is a lot more complicated. I'd also want
• 1:07:58
  to point out that witches. Pagan societies didn't like witches like they killed them
• 1:08:04
  too. There there is trials for witchcraft in ancient romesites. For us,
• 1:08:21
  we think it's ridiculous that people were charged with witchcraft. But during that time,
• 1:08:27
  when you have a belief that people's intentions matter, and you catch them
• 1:08:31
  with black magic paraphernalia, like that would get you in trouble, right,
• 1:08:39
  and and they wouldn't just get you in trouble with Christians. It's more like
• 1:08:42
  Christianity took over general societies antipathy towards witches. Nobody liked them, nobody,
• 1:08:48
  not the Pagans, not the Vikings. Uh well, the Vikings were particularly
• 1:08:54
  they didn't like male witches. Let's say, female female series were very important
• 1:09:00
  in Viking society. Female ritual mistresses were very important, but the warlocks didn't
• 1:09:08
  like them. They often just burn them down, burn them all in like
• 1:09:11
  their lodges or whatever. Okay, so this is this is not something that
• 1:09:15
  Christians invented. I don't know why I'm on this topic. What the fuck?
• 1:09:18
  How did this happen? I don't know, I don't know, but
• 1:09:21
  I want to get back to the super chats and stuff. So yeah,
• 1:09:25
  yeah, I got a super child for stupid, who gives us five dollars
• 1:09:29
  and says, I keep forgetting to put my nickname in there. I think
• 1:09:32
  that was the last super child, might have been his fifty dollars one,
• 1:09:35
  so thank you for that. And then I got stupid fifty bucks. And
• 1:09:40
  then oh put in another five bucks because he forgot to put in his So
• 1:09:45
  it's the same guy. That's kind of what I thought. And then the
• 1:09:48
  Great Indoors gives us twenty five dollars and says, uh, fine, Alison,
• 1:09:55
  don't wear that latex cat suit. You would like a trash heap gnome
• 1:09:58
  anyway, looks like a trash heap. Yeah, crash heap, no very
• 1:10:02
  glossy trash heapnome gloss. I don't think so well, he's shiny. And
• 1:10:12
  then we got a rumble rant from Nova fan twenty one who says, trad
• 1:10:15
  cucks when feminists refuse to marry men sleep also trad cucks when men refuse to
• 1:10:19
  marry feminists panic. Give us a dollar, thank you, Nova fan or
• 1:10:26
  that. And there is Teal Deers in the chat too, so say hello
• 1:10:30
  to te He's been here for a bit, but he doesn't he's lurking.
• 1:10:35
  I think he always lurks. He just doesn't say you very often. After
• 1:10:40
  all of that, the upshot is, we still have ten dollars on the
• 1:10:43
  fundraiser. Ten dollars all we're close. We're close. Yeah, we're really
• 1:10:47
  close. I'm not sure y soon is well? You know, uh,
• 1:10:56
  somebody needs somebody needs to throw a ten dollars bone. You know what's really
• 1:11:02
  funny is you say that JoJo's moving, Jojo, go back to your bed.
• 1:11:08
  They're gonna be However, Superchow, I think that my dog is gone.
• 1:11:15
  I feel alone. Yeah, we should. We should totally bring back
• 1:11:20
  right here. So sorry, we should go back with We should we should
• 1:11:24
  totally bring back the inquisition hunt for heretics and for this idea may great again?
• 1:11:34
  Is that it make the inquisition great again? Okay, let's let's do
• 1:11:45
  a bit play some more so. This next bit is called humiliating sexual harassment
• 1:11:49
  training. Okay, about why we all get accused of being pickpockets? That
• 1:11:57
  right, This was specifically a reference to the humiliation of mandatory training that happens
• 1:12:04
  here at university's a lot. So like, imagine if there was some kind
• 1:12:10
  of mandatory pickpocket training where they bring in all the workers and they say pickpocketing
• 1:12:15
  is wrong. Don't pickpocket others. Pickpocketing others means reaching into their pockets without
• 1:12:19
  permission and taking their stuff and then keeping it. Don't be a pickpocket,
• 1:12:24
  right, And it's like, Okay, why are you telling me this though,
• 1:12:29
  like I know all this already. This is all quite obvious and and
• 1:12:33
  yet to me, this is very much what most sensitivity training is, Like
• 1:12:38
  what most of the training about, you know, like internet security is like
• 1:12:42
  they're telling you a bunch of totally obvious stuff and why well a lot of
• 1:12:46
  it is it really just seems to be to humiliate you, to say,
• 1:12:49
  look, we're going to talk to you like children and you have to sit
• 1:12:51
  there and suck it up tough. Luck. Well, these are struggle sessions
• 1:13:00
  and they are psychological tours. It's because it's because they assume that as a
• 1:13:06
  man, you don't already know this, because you are part of the patriarchy.
• 1:13:15
  Yeah, actually, that's a really good point. Like what he's saying.
• 1:13:18
  I would say that internet security is probably something people do need to know,
• 1:13:24
  but the other stuff because it's a little more esoteric, right, Well,
• 1:13:29
  especially older people like people who are like a little bit luddite, don't
• 1:13:33
  know about your passwords on the on, yeah, and like phone scams and
• 1:13:39
  stuff like that. Right, you see, he's right, like and Brian
• 1:13:43
  is right. Like the whole thing about telling men how to establish or accept
• 1:13:51
  boundaries women's boundaries, well, yes, men already know that, like ninety
• 1:13:57
  five percent of men and actually probably one hundred percent of men already know already
• 1:14:02
  know. It's very difficult to the problem is that when you're an abusive person,
• 1:14:10
  your boundaries encompass everything, right, Like, uh, you know,
• 1:14:16
  if a person is chewing their gum too loudly and you're abusive, you'll be
• 1:14:19
  like, well, you deserve to die for that because you're offending my ears.
• 1:14:24
  Right, he had it come in, He has had it come in.
• 1:14:28
  You only had his self to blame exactly. So the problem is that
• 1:14:33
  if you if you give these universal standards where men have to abide by women's
• 1:14:38
  boundaries, well, there's not an insignificant number women who are utterly abusive,
• 1:14:44
  narcissistic, or borderline or don't know where their boundaries will legitimately lie. So
• 1:14:50
  they will basically say, well, me punching you is you violating me,
• 1:14:56
  okay, and five percent of men who don't respect women's boundaries, who arguably
• 1:15:04
  don't respect anybody's boundaries, right, five probably five percent of men right who
• 1:15:10
  just don't and can't and don't understand, they don't even think it's do or
• 1:15:15
  they don't care. They don't care. They they know, they know what
• 1:15:19
  the boundaries are, but they just don't care. And it's they're not They're
• 1:15:25
  not allowed to get away with it. There's laws against that. They will
• 1:15:29
  be arrested eventually. They will be prosecuted eventually if they aggress on a woman,
• 1:15:35
  not so much if they just address in general. But but when you
• 1:15:43
  when you look at women, like, we're not allowed to say, okay,
• 1:15:47
  women, there are boundaries. Yeah right, we literally tell women there
• 1:15:53
  are no boundaries. As soon as you hold women to a standard, the
• 1:15:56
  feminists come out like a bunch of furies, an attempt to destroy you if
• 1:16:00
  you as soon as you suggest that women might making choices that have negative consequences,
• 1:16:04
  they come out and you don't even have to suggest, oh yeah,
• 1:16:09
  it's women doing it. You just have to point out, oh yeah,
• 1:16:12
  these are the negative consequences of fatherlessness. And then everybody because you're you're defying
• 1:16:17
  women the right to make a choice and have that choice as consequences be rendered
• 1:16:24
  invisible by society. Okay, but my point is when you have these these
• 1:16:30
  consent seminars or whatever the hell they are, they don't teach anyone anything that
• 1:16:36
  they don't already know or already refuse to acknowledge. Right, They don't do
• 1:16:43
  anything to prevent sexual assault or sexual harassment. While they will stop groups of
• 1:16:49
  men who have no intent to harm women from engaging with them at all,
• 1:16:54
  So I guess they stop harassment that way, but they don't do anything because
• 1:17:00
  that's not what motivates and that's not the reason why men sexually aggress against women.
• 1:17:06
  It's not a culture, unless you want to say that the culture that
• 1:17:12
  causes it is art willful willful insistence when refusing to acknowledge male sexual victimization,
• 1:17:23
  especially by women. Okay, maybe if you Yeah, that's part of the
• 1:17:26
  culture, and that contributes to it. Because if we did have all of
• 1:17:30
  those scientific interventions identifying boys who are at risk of becoming predators and giving them
• 1:17:38
  the assistance they need to overcome the damage that's been done to them. Yeah,
• 1:17:42
  if we had done that we could say, but you know, because
• 1:17:46
  we live in a culture that doesn't want to look at this scientifically. It
• 1:17:49
  wants to look at this ideologically through the feminist lens, because we live in
• 1:17:54
  a culture that doesn't want to recognize male victims. But if we don't do
• 1:17:57
  that, so we don't reduce the rate of rape because we don't want to
• 1:18:00
  look at men as victims or men and boys as victims. So yeah,
• 1:18:03
  that's a cultural way that rape is promoted. But feminists are a big part
• 1:18:09
  of that. In fact, they're the biggest part of that because they actively
• 1:18:14
  discriminate against scientific interventions for those groups of men who are most at risk of
• 1:18:18
  being predators because they defy their ideology in every single way, at every single
• 1:18:25
  step. So they would prefer to see women raped than have anybody question feminism.
• 1:18:30
  That is despicable, honestly. So they construct these these seminars in which
• 1:18:36
  they do nothing but get money like they promote an intervention. These are not
• 1:18:43
  just These are not just absurd. These are feminists consuming directing the funds towards
• 1:18:50
  reducing the rate of rape. Everybody wants to do that, right, they
• 1:18:54
  direct those funds to their initiatives they're ideologically motivated initiatives that nothing that worse case
• 1:19:02
  in point, get money. Okay. A book published in two thousand called
• 1:19:10
  Natural History of Rape Biological Basis of Sexual Coercion right by Thornhill and Palmer.
• 1:19:19
  Right, those guys. They basically said, Okay, there is a portion
• 1:19:26
  of the male population that is kind of biologically prone. Right, but there
• 1:19:35
  are things that we could do interventions there. There are maybe ways that we
• 1:19:42
  could identify the behaviors in early childhood and intervene in a non aggressive way,
• 1:19:54
  like not say lock them up into juvie or anything like that, but you
• 1:19:58
  know, like just change how we parent these and socialize these boys. You
• 1:20:04
  change it is don't abuse them and don't rape them. Yeah, okay,
• 1:20:09
  sure, but okay, so there there is a biological aspect to it.
• 1:20:15
  There is an inherent inheritable aspect to it. Right. And then if you
• 1:20:20
  just intervene in early childhood to prevent all of the other ingredients from being added
• 1:20:28
  to the cake, right, then have been added to try to ameliorate the
• 1:20:32
  damage. Instead of telling these young men that rape is a gift. Yeah,
• 1:20:38
  so and and they got oh my god, they just got so like
• 1:20:45
  they got canceled. Okay, they got canceled. I just want to add
• 1:20:49
  for excusing rape. For excusing rape, you remind everyone that feminists of promoting
• 1:20:57
  initiatives to so called event rape that do nothing of the sort, but simply
• 1:21:02
  direct funds that could go to interventions that do reduce rape just to make money.
• 1:21:10
  That's fucking despicable. Oh yeah, No, there was that one Canadian
• 1:21:14
  professor. She did a study where she was just like, okay, so
• 1:21:17
  what are the what are what are some interventions that women could use. Women
• 1:21:24
  on college campuses could use right to uh you know, like you you would
• 1:21:30
  give them training to make them aware of certain behavioral patterns that they in men
• 1:21:38
  that they should avoid, right, and then certain behaviors that you can engage
• 1:21:43
  in. And one of these behaviors, one of these strategies to avoid being
• 1:21:47
  sexually assaulted, was to clap in front of the guy's face no. And
• 1:22:00
  then she looked at the outcomes after one year, and she found that there
• 1:22:05
  was a significant reduction in sexual assaults among the women young women who had had
• 1:22:12
  the training, like there was a significant uh they they were there were significantly
• 1:22:19
  less sexual assaults among the women who'd had and employed the training and what did
• 1:22:28
  the feminists say, Well, that's putting the onus on the woman, and
• 1:22:31
  it's like, oh, well it's up to the woman to say no.
• 1:22:35
  Well, obviously there's something worse than rape, then, yeah, worse than
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  rape is holding women accountable or giving them or saying that they have agency like
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  living saying that they should actually make is say a no in an assert they
• 1:22:53
  don't want something to happen, like they have agency over the outcome of a
• 1:22:58
  situation. That is, to feminists, they would rather see every woman on
• 1:23:02
  earth raped than have anyone recognized that women might. That means no, yeah,
• 1:23:11
  that women have the ability to stop it, that women have agency at
• 1:23:15
  all, and that they can take responsibility to affect an outcome that they want.
• 1:23:19
  Feminists would rather see every woman on the planet raped, multiply, gang
• 1:23:24
  rape, raped to death than recognize that met women have any responsibility whatsoever.
• 1:23:30
  It's been of a hyperbolea on my part. But when they don't want,
• 1:23:34
  they don't want anyone, right, it's unfair that women feel like they can't
• 1:23:42
  walk alone at night, Okay, And it's like, either stop being raped
• 1:23:48
  or do you do? You would you like, here's the thing, what
• 1:23:51
  you're doing is ensuring that more women are raped. How can you then,
• 1:23:57
  how can you embrace as feminists? How can you embrace stuff you know will
• 1:24:01
  result in more female rapes? How can you embrace that and then turn around
• 1:24:06
  and say we care so much about rape? Who are funny to stop it?
• 1:24:13
  Like it's infuriating? Its lock up all the men so that women don't
• 1:24:19
  have to adjust their behavior. And it's like, okay, well not even
• 1:24:25
  that. What's infuriating me. I know that's also infuriating. But what's really
• 1:24:29
  infuriating me is feminists use rape. They use it to give themselves a self
• 1:24:34
  righteous edge over other people. And yet feminists would rather see women be raped
• 1:24:42
  than question feminism or have women be told that they can take responsibility for themselves.
• 1:24:49
  How can anybody hand the moral up, the like the moral high ground
• 1:24:57
  to feminists when they have these priorities. Oh yeah, we've ratherman be raped,
• 1:25:03
  you know, like gosh, I mean question feminist or see women raped.
• 1:25:08
  Of course we're gonna choose women be raped, like, fuck them.
• 1:25:12
  Let them do are the thing we say is the worst thing possible. Let
• 1:25:15
  them experience that horror. Just as long as feminism isn't questioned, what fucking
• 1:25:20
  priorities are those? And how can you call these people advocates of women?
• 1:25:26
  And incidentally, if you're a feminist listening to this, I don't owe feminist
• 1:25:30
  fucking all as a woman period a damn thing, and no woman owes feminism
• 1:25:38
  a damn thing. Okay, sorry, got a little feisty. I apologize.
• 1:25:43
  I'm gonna calm down now. Are you ready? Yes? I got
• 1:25:46
  I got another uh super chow from a Norwegian. Again, thank yousian.
• 1:25:57
  Was it for just to five dollars? He gives us five dollars and says
• 1:26:02
  time to join the Black Templars, Brian kill the mutants? Perfect, all
• 1:26:13
  right, thank you, fang. Okay, we still Norwegian? Norwegian,
• 1:26:16
  not Fang. I feel like ten bucks is almost like it's it's trolling,
• 1:26:21
  like the the people. That's why I said, let me guess it's nine
• 1:26:27
  dollars and ninety nine cents. Yeah, well this is a super chow,
• 1:26:30
  right, it's not super chow ten dollars on the fundraiser, guys, so
• 1:26:38
  support just ten dollars. You know. It feels like this is almost the
• 1:26:44
  technicality, but I would like to get it because I'm a very superstitious person,
• 1:26:47
  and the idea of not making the fundraisers is a little bit like,
• 1:26:54
  I don't know, Like I said, I'm sort of superstitious. All right,
• 1:26:58
  you want me to play more of the video, let's play more.
• 1:27:00
  Yeah. Some of it is for legal purposes where if they get sued,
• 1:27:03
  they can say we told them not to do it, right, as if
• 1:27:06
  the main reason people pickpocket is they don't and they no one ever told them
• 1:27:11
  not to do it, or they don't understand what would constitute it. Although
• 1:27:14
  another part of it is ratcheting up the definitions so that almost anything counts as
• 1:27:18
  pickpocketing, where it's like, well you looked at what was in someone's pocket
• 1:27:21
  without their consent, that's a kind of pickpocketing. So that's also what's going
• 1:27:26
  on. And once you have your training set up, they do often having
• 1:27:30
  higher and higher standards. Now I say this just to go and make fun
• 1:27:33
  of various training that you'll see, especially on college campuses, about sexual harassment.
• 1:27:39
  So don't sleep with their students. Oh I didn't know. We weren't
• 1:27:43
  supposed to do that. Oh, thank you, Like, come on,
• 1:27:46
  like we all know this, right, you know the reason why people are
• 1:27:49
  doing it isn't because they aren't aware of the rules. The reason they're doing
• 1:27:51
  it is because they don't like the rules, and the rules are stopping them
• 1:27:55
  from knowing they want. So yeah, yeah, yep. And honestly,
• 1:28:01
  though, when you're talking about sexual violence, you're talking about a small minority
• 1:28:08
  of men. Like Karen is saying, there's genetic factors and then there's environmental
• 1:28:12
  factors that create them. And if you want to stop their behavior, then
• 1:28:17
  you start need to start recognizing, like, you can't change the genetic factors
• 1:28:20
  unless we want to go on some eugenics kick, So you have to change
• 1:28:26
  the behavioral factors, which means you got to Since nobody wants to stop women
• 1:28:30
  from raping kids, we got to recognize or notice those kids who are been
• 1:28:34
  sexually abused by women and give them interventions that help them overcome it. As
• 1:28:41
  simple as that. You don't even have to do it with stigma. Like
• 1:28:44
  you find the kids that are abused, they have severe emotional abuse, sexual
• 1:28:47
  abuse, whatever, and you help them overcome that. And you kick every
• 1:28:54
  fucking man who says rape is a gift in the face, that that's something
• 1:28:59
  that really kisses me off. No, no, no, offense. Guys,
• 1:29:01
  I really think we need to start kicking those men in the face because
• 1:29:06
  they're dicks. Well yeah, like chenk Huger. Oh yeah, No,
• 1:29:12
  I would have loved to have that teacher. She was really hot when I
• 1:29:15
  was thirteen. I would have like totally gone down for that advocacy. This
• 1:29:19
  is this is this is in Minecraft. Guys. Kick chenk Uger in the
• 1:29:23
  face in Minecraft. Yeah, well, to give him a leather soul sandwich.
• 1:29:33
  All right, Well, at least he at least he finally came out
• 1:29:38
  and admitted that maybe circumcising babies was wrong. Good, so there's problems.
• 1:29:45
  Uh more more video, let's play a little more. Yes, yes,
• 1:29:49
  it's really an issue of something that was really confusing. Be a different story.
• 1:29:53
  So maybe actually the internet security at least, you might think that that's
• 1:29:57
  more complicated. Although honestly, having gone through Internet security training, I'll say
• 1:30:02
  that the stuff they train you on is so basic because honestly, they need
• 1:30:08
  to make a test that can be passed by the lowest IQ person in the
• 1:30:11
  organization, and therefore it can't really be hard because otherwise they have to fire
• 1:30:15
  people over failing the writing tests, right, makes sense? They don't want
• 1:30:19
  to do that. So one of the things that we're both funds of is
• 1:30:24
  agency trying to take drum roll please, we got the final ten bucks.
• 1:30:31
  Oh, the great Indoors put in ten dollars. That's so nice. All
• 1:30:39
  right, thank you. So we have we've successfully funded another month of Honey
• 1:30:44
  Badger Radio. So go away. Hey, Brian, you should have played
• 1:30:48
  the this isn't a lending library the comic book down and get out, or
• 1:30:56
  I'll blow your heads off. I don't have that sound. I just have
• 1:31:00
  you come again? You should? You should? You should have that one?
• 1:31:04
  Go get that one? Maybe. Yeah. No, I'm not feeling
• 1:31:09
  very charitable today. Ah yeah, no. I had to let my husband
• 1:31:14
  drive himself to work today, so I'm without a car because I'm pukey.
• 1:31:21
  I was scared of people in the car. Oh okay, can we move
• 1:31:27
  on? Yeah, this is like my least favorite topic. Ming more of
• 1:31:32
  this or yes, well it wasn't, Lumpy Allison, personal agency, individual
• 1:31:41
  sovereignty. It seems to me and I hadn't thought of these two words before,
• 1:31:45
  but it seems like antipathy and pity are yeah, self pity in the
• 1:31:49
  pity for this antipathy and self pity are probably about as close to solvents for
• 1:31:57
  agency as possible, Like it will dissolve your ability to feel like an agentic
• 1:32:00
  individual. Yeah, yeah, that's very true. This is very true,
• 1:32:05
  And like it's something I struggle with as well, with the stuff that we
• 1:32:09
  talk about, because where's the line between recognizing problems and taking away someone's agency?
• 1:32:15
  Right? Yeah, But of course the thing is that another thing that
• 1:32:18
  I've noticed is that sometimes people will will pretend they have more agency in order
• 1:32:26
  to deny that they in order to justify not having any at all. Okay,
• 1:32:32
  So an example of that is an alcoholic who says I can quit any
• 1:32:36
  time. Yeah, Like they're they're saying, oh, yeah, it's entirely
• 1:32:42
  within my control, because that means they don't have to get it into their
• 1:32:46
  control, if that makes sense. Yes. And then also there's women.
• 1:32:51
  This just something that I've seen with women. I don't normally see men do
• 1:32:55
  this. Who will be like there was this one example I think I don't
• 1:33:00
  remember who was the one. I might have been Warren Ferrell actually, but
• 1:33:05
  he would be or don't quote me on that, but there was a male
• 1:33:09
  psychologist who was working with women. Actually, you know, what it might
• 1:33:13
  be Tom Golden. But anyways, a male psychologist who was working with women,
• 1:33:16
  and he found that women would do things like so, for example,
• 1:33:21
  there was a woman who had an abusive partner and a son, and the
• 1:33:28
  abusive partner wasn't the father of the son, of course, so but she
• 1:33:30
  would be like, I can't believe I let or she would take responsibility for
• 1:33:42
  the abusive behavior of her partner. So she'd say, oh, it was
• 1:33:45
  my fault he was abusive, and the guy would say, no, it's
• 1:33:49
  not your fault, he was abusive. And the other women in the group
• 1:33:54
  would be saying, oh, it's not your fault he was abusive. Oh
• 1:33:57
  is it not your fault you couldn't do anything, and the and the male
• 1:34:00
  psychologist said, yeah, you're right, it's not your fault. He was
• 1:34:03
  abusive, but it's your fault you kept your son in the situation for as
• 1:34:09
  long as you did. And what you're doing is you are taking responsibility for
• 1:34:15
  something you know you aren't responsible for in order to ignore responsibility for something you
• 1:34:23
  are responsible for. And this is this is all the complexities that come into
• 1:34:29
  taking responsibility that I think about a lot. I'm glad Chris is sort of
• 1:34:33
  cogitating on it too. I wonder what Brian has to say though. That's
• 1:34:38
  a great point. I mean, yeah, because like what I like to
• 1:34:41
  tell people is imagine a person who has the absolute maximum reason to feel on
• 1:34:45
  tipathy and self pity, like someone who was stabbed in the back and now
• 1:34:50
  they're paralyzed, and they know the person who did it, you know,
• 1:34:53
  like you, I don't know, it was like your your ex wife stabbed
• 1:34:56
  you in the back. Now you're paralyzed from the neck down for the rest
• 1:34:59
  of your life. To every reason to hate this person, every reason feel
• 1:35:01
  sorry for yourself. And the question is if you wanted to help this person,
• 1:35:05
  would you go to them and say, be full of antipathy, be
• 1:35:10
  full of self pity. Of course not. You'll be trying to go and
• 1:35:15
  come up with some story to make them feel better. And it's like,
• 1:35:17
  well, okay, I understand why you would be overwhelmed with antivity and self
• 1:35:21
  pity, but you got to get past that, because if you're going to
• 1:35:26
  have any enjoyment out of life, if you're going to be able to salvage
• 1:35:28
  any part of what you're hoping for, you're going to have to go and
• 1:35:32
  focus on what you can do and what you can have now, and just
• 1:35:35
  being angry at the woman who did this to you and feeling sorry for poor
• 1:35:41
  you, though completely justified, is totally unconstructive. Well, there's another fit
• 1:35:46
  pitfall for this because it's true. But what I've found is a lot of
• 1:35:50
  people, well we'll say this to somebody who's going through something rough. They'll
• 1:35:56
  say, well, you just can't dwell. And it's like, you know,
• 1:36:00
  if you aren't going to actually help them overcome their problem, shut up.
• 1:36:05
  Like, if you're not going to sit there and give them the things
• 1:36:09
  they need, the support they need to actually start digging in, what you
• 1:36:13
  should just do is say, yeah, that's really rough and leave it at
• 1:36:15
  that. Yeah, just just give them support, because if you're not going
• 1:36:19
  to help, don't start making demands, because that is a demand. When
• 1:36:24
  you say, oh you should be that's a demand. Yeah you should be
• 1:36:28
  this thing that I'm more comfortable with. Well, as that's a demand,
• 1:36:31
  are you prepared to underwrite that demand with your attention and your work and your
• 1:36:35
  resources, then don't make it like yeah, I agree with that, I
• 1:36:42
  agree with that. The you know, like there are some people out there
• 1:36:47
  who who it's next to impossible to pull them out of their self pity and
• 1:37:00
  and and it's it's just way too much work for any healthy individual to do
• 1:37:09
  that. And it's it's like, that's engage with those people. Yeah,
• 1:37:16
  that's that's when you basically say I'm no longer engaging. That's that's not when
• 1:37:23
  you say, pull yourself up by your bootstraps. You just I mean,
• 1:37:30
  it's it's a really hard thing when you have someone who is like that,
• 1:37:34
  right, like who literally was you know, stabbed and abused and is crippled,
• 1:37:44
  and you know they have every right to feel self pity, and they
• 1:37:49
  they aren't ready to be told that you know, okay, you can do
• 1:37:55
  it. You can be who is at the Superman guy? You know you
• 1:38:02
  can you can be that Christopher Reed reeve that you can be him and and
• 1:38:11
  you know and make a life as a quadriplegic and and all of those things.
• 1:38:16
  Right, It's it's a really really difficult situation. And if you pull
• 1:38:24
  away from those people. Right, My sister she did home care for a
• 1:38:30
  long time, right, uh, for people who were disabled, and and
• 1:38:38
  she spent ten years with this one family, every day going in dealing with
• 1:38:44
  this quadriplegic man who had a wife and two kids, and he fell out
• 1:38:48
  of a duck blind when he was hunting and broke his neck and was quadriplegic
• 1:38:58
  after that. And his wife when when their kids were grown right, and
• 1:39:09
  moved out of the house, she said, Okay, I'm I'm done.
• 1:39:15
  I stuck with you this long for the sake of the kids, but I
• 1:39:19
  can't do it anymore. And and yeah, no, he committed suicide basically
• 1:39:30
  a week after she moved out. So it's like, you do have to
• 1:39:40
  you do have to find like a balance of there are people who depend on
• 1:39:44
  you, There are people who love you, there are people who like are
• 1:39:46
  looking forward to talking to you tomorrow, right, and putting a demand on
• 1:39:55
  someone that they have to be a certain way. Yeah, it's it's a
• 1:40:00
  really really difficult thing when you have someone in that situation. And at the
• 1:40:05
  same time, it's hard to it's hard to fault his wife because you know,
• 1:40:15
  like he wasn't a peach to live with even before he got hurt,
• 1:40:26
  and she stayed with him. She might have divorced him five years earlier if
• 1:40:33
  he had been able bodied, right, But he wasn't, so she stayed
• 1:40:41
  for the kids and then she just said, Okay, I'm done. And
• 1:40:48
  I don't know, I don't know. It's like the kind of pain that
• 1:40:54
  people go through, right. And then then you look, you look at
• 1:40:59
  the difference in approaches, Right, So you have the hyper conservative approach pull
• 1:41:04
  yourself up by your bootstraps, and you have the extreme leftist approach, which
• 1:41:10
  is like, there are no straps this person's boots unless you're a man,
• 1:41:15
  in which you are supposed to pull yourself by the boot by the your privileged
• 1:41:18
  straps, yeah, your privileged check yeah yeah, and feel guilty for yeah
• 1:41:25
  no. And and it's just like I I'm just like, okay, well,
• 1:41:29
  like I understand how difficult it is, right, but you do have
• 1:41:33
  to find a way to like tell people that life is still worth living,
• 1:41:40
  even if you say I'm not going to live it with you anymore. So
• 1:41:47
  it's just I I don't know, It's it's hard being human is Being human
• 1:41:53
  is hard. It's it's really hard. And I know, I've it's my
• 1:42:00
  family's been going through some shit and and it's like or my husband's family and
• 1:42:06
  and it is really difficult. And I am like he has, he has
• 1:42:13
  one family member who died and another family member who's moved away, and I'm
• 1:42:19
  just like, thank god that guy moved away right out of province. He's
• 1:42:26
  gone. We don't have to deal with him anymore. Good fucking luck to
• 1:42:31
  whoever has to deal with him where he lands. Right, But it's not
• 1:42:36
  us, because it was really freaking difficult. And but it's like you still
• 1:42:45
  you still care about him, you still wish that he you still wish that
• 1:42:51
  he does okay, you still want him to do okay, But eventually you
• 1:42:57
  have to say, like, I've done as much as I can do.
• 1:43:00
  Mm hmm. And when you have somebody who just like refuses to be helped,
• 1:43:06
  Yeah, it's it's oh, it's it's so freaking hard. It's so
• 1:43:14
  hard. So okay, all right, all right, now that I've now
• 1:43:20
  that I've vomited my emotions and my baggage all over the audience, let's watch
• 1:43:27
  a little bit more, should we call it? We made our goal.
• 1:43:30
  I got to leave in like tennish minutes so I can. Okay, let's
• 1:43:35
  just this is a big one. This is a big one. Look at
• 1:43:41
  that Look at all that attention, Look at the lumps. Oh my god,
• 1:43:45
  right here, remember agency or this one the demonization of having kids.
• 1:43:50
  No, she's talking about directly after the is this is part of that little
• 1:43:56
  peak. But yeah, let's just watch from where we are. All right,
• 1:44:02
  yeah, all right. What would you say then, given that we
• 1:44:08
  have an incredibly broad number of people who are wallowing in a low agency existence,
• 1:44:14
  what's your prescription philosophically or tactically or strategically forgetting Chris Williamson does not mean
• 1:44:23
  women. He's saying people. He's being very specific. He's saying that there
• 1:44:28
  are men and women. Now I agree that I No, no, no,
• 1:44:32
  that's what he's saying. Chris Williamson thinks this is a ping pong game.
• 1:44:35
  We've already established that he thinks on both sides. He thinks this is
• 1:44:40
  that there are men that essentially the self pity and apathy that women or feminist
• 1:44:47
  women, and by extension, most women, because they're affected by this feel
• 1:44:53
  towards men is just as bad as the men responding to that evil propaganda.
• 1:45:01
  And it's a ping pong That's what he thinks. I'm not getting away from
• 1:45:05
  the way Chris Williamson is framing this. Uh that that's what he's doing.
• 1:45:12
  That's why he says a low It's like you're seeing an argument. Yeah,
• 1:45:16
  no, I got you. You're seeing an argument. Woman is saying you're
• 1:45:18
  to blame for everything to the man, and the man says, you're you're
• 1:45:23
  saying I'm to blame for everything, and Chris is saying, oh my god,
• 1:45:26
  you're both equally bad. Yeah, exactly, this is what's happening.
• 1:45:29
  This is the important So when he says this low agency environment, he's saying
• 1:45:32
  defending against an attack is equivalent to attacking in his Yes, yes, okay,
• 1:45:39
  let's keep go miingd someone from antipathy and self pity into agency. The
• 1:45:44
  movie What About Bob, actually, the lead psychologist in it, has a
• 1:45:47
  book called Baby Steps about how someone who has problems needs to give up on
• 1:45:51
  the idea of solving them all over night and instead just try to take small,
• 1:45:55
  little steps and improvement. The character is mockworthy in the movie, but
• 1:46:01
  I think it's totally sensible. If a person is having trouble with life,
• 1:46:05
  don't say fix everything overnight, just say, all right, look, let's
• 1:46:09
  take some small steps and move from there. So that's what I would be
• 1:46:12
  by doing. Yeah, just or just the harsh portion of your room if
• 1:46:19
  you can't clean your own room, and then also give yourself a pat on
• 1:46:23
  the back about it, because a lot of people here is this is the
• 1:46:27
  This is actually the interesting problem with this though. I mean, I know
• 1:46:30
  that Brian Caplan's speaking directly to Chris Williamson's question or statement, but Chris Williamson
• 1:46:39
  has reframed the statement to apply to men and women, and Brian Caplan's response
• 1:46:45
  is really only going to be something that men are going to be expected to
• 1:46:51
  do now. Yeah, so this is the this is the issue. So
• 1:46:57
  Brian Caplan started by saying, here's why I don't want my daughter to become
• 1:47:00
  a feminist. These are all the issues, and two of those is is
• 1:47:04
  self pity and antipathy. Yeah, I see what he's doing. That sounds
• 1:47:13
  like a problem that both sides have. What do you think we should do
• 1:47:16
  about this? And he's like, well, here are some small steps that
• 1:47:19
  can be taken. But you see this this standard that he's about, he's
• 1:47:25
  presenting it won't be applied to women like Chris Williams is not going to say,
• 1:47:29
  ladies, you should do this before you hate men. He's just gonna
• 1:47:32
  be like, well, if men do that enough, then maybe the women
• 1:47:36
  won't complain as much or something, you know, somehow, if men fix
• 1:47:41
  everything, women will complain about the fact that men are fixing everything. Yeah
• 1:47:45
  they're not letting women have the opportunity to fix there, they're not. Yeah,
• 1:47:49
  they're somehow if men I mean Chris's mind, if men fix everything,
• 1:47:54
  men, women will stop complaining about men stopping them from giving the opportunity to
• 1:47:58
  fix it for themselves. It was like, no, well that's not what's
• 1:48:00
  going to happen. But yeah, you're right, because this is that this
• 1:48:01
  context is in the context of an entire framework in which, instead of taking
• 1:48:09
  responsibility for their life as it is, women offloaded onto men, which is
• 1:48:15
  actually a very traditionalist proposition. I will I will say, but the but
• 1:48:19
  the so instead of his daughter, like Chris is trying to move it away
• 1:48:24
  from a father's concern for his daughter to whatever Chris wants from this, and
• 1:48:30
  uh, you know his he wants to tell his daughter, you know,
• 1:48:33
  avoid the pitfall of blaming men instead of taking responsibility for yourself, and you
• 1:48:44
  know the way that you would Yeah, you're right, this is he's blanding
• 1:48:47
  out his message he's taking me. I think Kaplan is like trying to like
• 1:48:53
  say, like he's speaking to the solutions from a universal like men and women
• 1:48:58
  could both do this. But that's how it's gonna like paying What he should
• 1:49:01
  be responding to, and I'm guessing that he doesn't is to say, well,
• 1:49:05
  in my daughter's case and in the case of women by extension, I
• 1:49:11
  would want them to defy the pressure to blame their lives on men. And
• 1:49:18
  you know, after that they have defied the pressure to blame their lives on
• 1:49:23
  men, to refocus everything on men's actions and men's agency and men's choices and
• 1:49:29
  men's whims and men's psychology and men's considerations and how men interact with each other
• 1:49:35
  and how men men men. Once women sort of stop doing that, then
• 1:49:42
  they can start taking some practical steps to focusing on what they can do in
• 1:49:47
  their lives instead of what men can do in their lives. And that's so
• 1:49:50
  funny because we all think that female empowerment is refocusing everything back on men and
• 1:49:59
  men's Have you noticed that, Yeah, yeah, so you know, he
• 1:50:03
  would probably say to his daughter, don't fall prey into thinking blaming men or
• 1:50:09
  thinking that your life outcome is a result of men's choices, because it's the
• 1:50:12
  result of yours, and that's empowerment. And yeah, you're right, I
• 1:50:17
  don't think he does say that, does he No, I don't think he
• 1:50:19
  does. I think he just really derailed his own down. Yeah. I
• 1:50:25
  don't think that like this is intentional, but I think that that's where it
• 1:50:28
  ends up. It's like, you know, you're talking to somebody you want
• 1:50:30
  there's some really important stuff you want to get to. The other person doesn't
• 1:50:35
  know what your like objective is, and so they like, you know,
• 1:50:41
  shift to something more like broad and then you like get lost in the swamp
• 1:50:46
  and you end up making a broad statement that should sound it sounds nice,
• 1:50:50
  but it won't actually Like it's it's not like we're not going to hold women
• 1:50:56
  to the standard that he's explaining. We're just not going to unless someone directly
• 1:51:00
  says so, it's not going to happen. And even these like really popular
• 1:51:03
  red pill guys are not doing that. Like there's just it's it's it's just
• 1:51:10
  it's cowardice. In my it's moral cowardice, and it's going to it's going
• 1:51:15
  to lead to more problems. Okay, Well, both the red pill and
• 1:51:18
  the feminist men do the same thing. Yeah, they both. The red
• 1:51:23
  pill men say women can't help being evil, and the feminist men say women
• 1:51:28
  can't be anything but good, and both victims both refuse to recognize that women
• 1:51:36
  make choices and those choices have consequences because they do. They do they the
• 1:51:43
  red pill men do. Well, not why they know, and that's why
• 1:51:47
  they say women shouldn't have choices. Okay, well no, they basically say
• 1:51:54
  that women can't make any choice but what they do, and yeah, that's
• 1:51:57
  their well, yeah, no, which is why you need to curtail them
• 1:52:00
  by law and policy and the authority of the men in their life, whether
• 1:52:04
  that's the father or the brother or the husband or the son. Right like,
• 1:52:10
  the man must make the choices for her right And that's literally sort of
• 1:52:16
  the extreme red pill position is the man must manage the woman like he would
• 1:52:23
  manage a child. And whaw is an ass Yeah, well okay, so
• 1:52:29
  here here's here's the thing is Okay, So if we are to look at
• 1:52:38
  women as children, which I think this is what you're getting at, Allison,
• 1:52:44
  right, both sides, the red pill side and the and the feminist
• 1:52:49
  side are both looking at women as children. Mm hmm. Okay, and
• 1:52:57
  they view women as having the intellectual and moral and agentic capacity of children.
• 1:53:05
  Let me, let me and the and the level of responsibility and obligation of
• 1:53:13
  children. Okay, they're both viewing women in the same way. Okay,
• 1:53:17
  feminist men and red pill men. Mm hmm. You have red pill men
• 1:53:26
  saying, and that's why women need to have special rules, special constraints.
• 1:53:31
  They need to be curtailed. They need to not be allowed to make their
• 1:53:35
  own choice, independent choices, right, all of those things for the benefit
• 1:53:40
  of their families and of society. They should not be allowed to vote.
• 1:53:44
  They should not be allowed to do this that the other okay, and the
• 1:53:48
  feminist men are saying, let the child rule the house. Okay, and
• 1:53:55
  what okay, I wanted to say a couple of things to that. First
• 1:53:59
  of all, I it occurred to me that the feminist men think that women
• 1:54:01
  would be good except for men, and the red pill men think that women
• 1:54:05
  would be bad except for men. So essentially they all reframe the situation back
• 1:54:13
  onto men's choices. But here's the issue. When you look at all of
• 1:54:17
  the societies that still have this idea of men in charge. There is a
• 1:54:24
  recognition that that's sort of a fiction by both sides, right, of course,
• 1:54:29
  So the women, what's actually happening is the women are choosing to control
• 1:54:33
  each other and control each other's behavior and moderate it for the good of the
• 1:54:39
  community. Well, and choosing to control their men. Yeah, but that's
• 1:54:44
  what they're But that's what actually is happening with these traditional societies. Okay,
• 1:54:48
  it is literally women are choosing to submit, and really women are choosing to
• 1:54:54
  trust men and men's men having their best interests at heart. Well, women
• 1:55:00
  are also choosing to submit, maybe in name only or you know, let
• 1:55:08
  me just conclude my thought, all right, So we have this perception based
• 1:55:13
  on a basic lie, which is that in the past, somehow it was
• 1:55:17
  men making women submitting to submit, rather than women choosing to submit, okay,
• 1:55:24
  and knowing that they could choose not to. So it was women's choice
• 1:55:27
  that constructed this, right, the bread pill men think that that choice was
• 1:55:32
  forced on women. The feminists men think that choice was forced on women.
• 1:55:39
  They both think that they both just have different opinions on the outcome of that
• 1:55:43
  choice. Now I'm saying it was never forced on women. Women chose it.
• 1:55:47
  Everything always was as a result of women's women's choice to be moral.
• 1:55:58
  Okay, we need to get back to that. The law is an ass.
• 1:56:04
  Okay, let's let's do you leave it there? I think we should.
• 1:56:09
  Yeah, I think I do. You get what I'm saying, Karen,
• 1:56:14
  Yes, I do. I do. But I need to let another
• 1:56:18
  dog out. She doesn't have a lipstick to poke out, you know,
• 1:56:23
  honestly, I think to let me know she needs to poop. But I
• 1:56:26
  think when women take responsibility for things like community, because that's a really traditional
• 1:56:30
  situation, I think that there's an element that when you truly take responsibility for
• 1:56:36
  something, and you truly have that weight on your shoulders, you're actually just
• 1:56:41
  sort of fine. When men have responsibility for something, it's like, yeah,
• 1:56:45
  give me a break, you know what I mean, Oh god,
• 1:56:49
  I got enough to do. I got nothing. I think that women were
• 1:56:53
  like when when women were in traditional societies where women's work was critical, they
• 1:57:00
  were fine with seating areas of responsibility to men for the simple fact that when
• 1:57:05
  you truly take responsibility, you know how exhausting it is. Oh yeah,
• 1:57:10
  no, it was it was like, yeah, no, I already have
• 1:57:12
  enough shit to do. And uh yeah, so if you want to do
• 1:57:16
  this, do that, do the other earn the money whatever, right,
• 1:57:21
  yeah, fill your boots. And the thing is that the reason why people
• 1:57:27
  resist coming to this conclusion is because it feels like it's impossible to get women
• 1:57:32
  to take responsibility. Everybody knows this, Like the red Pillars know this,
• 1:57:38
  the feminists know this, We all instinctively know that. This feels like it's
• 1:57:43
  the most impossible task is to get is to is to get to hold women
• 1:57:48
  to a standard. Right. It feels impossible because women are just gonna do
• 1:57:51
  what they want, right, And red Pillars can say, well, we
• 1:57:55
  need to put these these these these uh these legal impositions back on women.
• 1:58:00
  Okay, that's a great fantasy. How Yeah, No, it's it's never
• 1:58:05
  gonna happen. You're never gonna I mean, we can't even get equality.
• 1:58:10
  You're you're talking about let's give women men superior legal position. Can we start
• 1:58:14
  with equality because that we're really struggling over here in the men's issues. Yeah.
• 1:58:18
  Yeah, Repeal nineteen is like never gonna happen. Yeah, And if
• 1:58:24
  it did, it would be because a critical massive women realized that it was
• 1:58:28
  it's beneficial to everybody to do it. Okay, so at that point you
• 1:58:31
  got women taking responsibility. But the reason why everybody thinks this is the impossible
• 1:58:35
  thing is because it's impossible to make women do anything. It's easy to make
• 1:58:42
  men do stuff. That's why we constantly blame them. Well, you don't
• 1:58:45
  have to hold them down and make them do it. You just feel a
• 1:58:49
  sense of social obligation. And nobody's addressing this. Nobody's willing for how long?
• 1:58:56
  But for how long? Well until and this is this, This is
• 1:59:00
  what this is. I think what is really underpinning all of this hostility to
• 1:59:04
  the men's rights movement, right, all of this hostility to Migtao, to
• 1:59:10
  in cells, to everyone, all all of these men's movements in their you
• 1:59:15
  know, rainbow variety, right, is is that it was even the Red
• 1:59:20
  Stocking manifestos, the feminist Red Stocking Manifesto's objection to gay men is gay men
• 1:59:29
  weren't marrying up women. They were misogynistic because they wouldn't have sex with women
• 1:59:33
  and give them babies and marry them. Right, they hated women. It
• 1:59:39
  wasn't that they wanted to have sex with men, it was that they hated
• 1:59:43
  women. And so it's basically like you you have this situation where there's just
• 1:59:49
  no freaking way, okay, that anybody is ever going to actually not hold
• 1:59:59
  men rec responsible. They're they're never gonna not hold men responsible, right,
• 2:00:04
  And that's the reality of every civilization ever. They hold it responsible because it's
• 2:00:11
  easier because men are trying to it. They want to add themselves to a
• 2:00:15
  standard of accountability that's external. Go ahead, and and it's it's it's not
• 2:00:19
  it's not just every civilization that's ever existed. It's every civilization that's ever succeeded
• 2:00:26
  or failed. But it's harder. It's it's the impossible task is holding women
• 2:00:31
  accountable. That's why everybody but I think us, doesn't want to talk about
• 2:00:39
  it, Like maybe some in the men's issues community are talking about it around
• 2:00:45
  it, but that's it. And when I look at history, the only
• 2:00:49
  time significant positive change occurs is when women are held accountable, and usually by
• 2:00:58
  each other, okay, and then men also getting in on the act and
• 2:01:02
  start holding women accountable. And that's when you see the big positive changes in
• 2:01:06
  human history, the big changes like the big fundamental earthquake changes. So we
• 2:01:14
  have on one side and this is why I was getting into the well,
• 2:01:16
  what are the sides? We have? On one side, all of the
• 2:01:20
  people who are like, well, women don't make choices because we don't want
• 2:01:25
  to see that, because if we did, we have to recognize how much
• 2:01:29
  how difficult it is to hold women to account for those choices. So neither
• 2:01:32
  the red pill nor the blue pill wants to do that. I don't know
• 2:01:36
  what kind of pill you'd call this. You have to hold women accountable.
• 2:01:41
  And if you want to make the big kind of change that we need,
• 2:01:47
  if you want to make the big kind of change that you know I think
• 2:01:50
  needs to happen, it's when we hold women accountable. How do we do
• 2:01:56
  that? That's the real question. Oh, we don't ask. We don't
• 2:02:00
  because we can't stop stop enabling. We have Okay, well who is we
• 2:02:08
  because I hold women accountable? You ow? We side Alison. We could
• 2:02:15
  argue this for an hour, but Brian needs to go. Okay, that
• 2:02:21
  needs out. Like, honestly, if we do not hold women accountable,
• 2:02:27
  we're losing fucking everything. Everything that's obvious right, Eventually it's all gonna crash.
• 2:02:33
  So where, however the solution is, it is going to come from
• 2:02:38
  holding women accountable. And so everybody who isn't talking about that isn't talking about
• 2:02:43
  much, is what I'm getting at. So the two sides is really refuse
• 2:02:47
  to hold women accountable, will hold ruling accountable. And this dude, Brian
• 2:02:53
  Caplan is obviously on the will hold women accountable side? All right, So
• 2:02:59
  the blue pill in the red pil guys like Chris is like, oh,
• 2:03:00
  these two sides, No, Chris, you gotta move into our dimension and
• 2:03:05
  see what the real two sides is. Anyway, Okay, I'll shut up
• 2:03:13
  now, all right, let's wrap it up. We go now, all
• 2:03:18
  right, you'll go now, say thank you all that stuff. Let's do
• 2:03:24
  it, no change, thank thank you everybody. I'm gonna go barf now
• 2:03:31
  and then I'm gonna let my dog out. I will I will see you
• 2:03:36
  later. Thank you, Thank you for making it no wonder you guys were
• 2:03:42
  talking over me. I was doing the things. I'm just saying, thank
• 2:03:46
  you for thank you for not making me have to give up some of my
• 2:03:51
  children's stock and coal for this fundraiser. I really appreciate it. And h
• 2:04:00
  yeah, thank you all, and I'll see I'll see you later when my
• 2:04:03
  stomach feels better. I think I'm gonna go bar all. Was I part
• 2:04:09
  of that? No, No, it's it's just time time time, Okay,
• 2:04:17
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• 2:04:23
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• 2:04:29
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• 2:04:35
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• 2:04:41
  for getting us to the end. The end, my friend. And uh
• 2:04:45
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