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The Purdue Report with Jake Dunn (Guest Host: Michelle Garmon, 2.190.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

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  [SPEAKER_03]: You are listening to the Purdue Report with Jake Dunn.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Every Wednesday on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: This week with guest host Michelle Garmin of the Tipton Tribune and Elwood Coliseum.
• 0:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hello all you Purdue fan listeners out there, I know.
• 0:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I, you person, but I'm going to be kind and I'm going to lead the questions tonight because this way it frees Jake and Greg up to give some really good introspection on the thoughts.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, I host the I, you report and I'm a Purdue friend.
• 0:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's only fair that Michelle gets to lead the questioning here on what is probably not going to be the happiest Purdue report ever, Jake.
• 0:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I just bring this back to the football days when there didn't seem like there's a lot of let-out going on.
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: Looking forward to the next.
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's that, Pat?
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Jake, I want to start with you because you were in attendance for the Boiler Makers game against Ohio State on Sunday.
• 1:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Your birthday will shame on Matt Payner company not giving you a good birthday present.
• 1:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was really hoping that it'd be a pretty stress-free win on paper.
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think people would argue probably should have been.
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: But obviously, yeah, obviously, it now it played out.
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: If anything, I was a pretty stress-free win for Ohio State if anything.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what, what's worse performance of the year, I thought.
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Jake, tell us, what do you think, Maine Purdue get down like they did by double digits?
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is something that Greg and I talked to a little bit about on the daily show, but it just seems like there's going to be some sort of communication problem or something on defense is just mental lapses on defense at pain or said in his post game press conference that there are times when they'll be a possession or two or really good.
• 2:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: of defense and then drain exposition will come down and the team will be running the same action and Purdue will mess up on a rotation or communicating things like that.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Greg and I also agreed that kind of seems like there are some attitude problems on the team that I would agree with Greg when he said it's probably the worst performance of the year and they picked it quite possibly the worst possible time.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I only said there are attitude problems because my pain are kind of indicted that there are attitude problems.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a little bit of four or five games a year of head hanging, I wouldn't say that necessarily bad attitudes, but just not as engaged as you would think.
• 2:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And this is a team that is a veteran team that was number one in the season for a reason.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a disconnection.
• 2:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: But why they're the same guys as last year.
• 2:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: They are, they are in some way.
• 2:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing, Jay.
• 2:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: They are.
• 2:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: To me, the thing, Jay, is there.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty much the same guys last year, the year before, Michelle's been on this athleticism thing, but they're more athletic than they were two years ago, when they went to the national championship game.
• 3:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's no question about that.
• 3:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think there's something to that that when you have four of your five guys are probably.
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: less than average athlete for their position, but they're skilled enough, they should be able to make up for it.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, offensively, that's the only thing that gives me hope here is the offensive efficiency has been fantastic, even in most of these losses.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if you get the NCAA tournament, they're only hoping to get 16 to can't shoot.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you draw 16 to that's their weakness.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: They can't shoot because really Jake, that's pretty much where we are with our hope
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I haven't even even if you do get teams that shoot in the years, it kind of seems like produce plan has just been helped that the team doesn't get half and three because this, this defense is I just kind of designed to give up open threes.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so I don't know if the scheme is missing some of the players that are able to do some of the things the scheme is designed to do it, it seems like.
• 4:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: to Michelle's point, we don't have the athlete to be able to do the rotation, get there in time.
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, very disappointing performance in so far are not to be a pretty disappointing season.
• 4:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll have the tournament, both big-tem tournament and NCAA tournament.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's still some hope of the team is just bored and just waiting for March Madness.
• 4:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I would like to see some mental signs that they are treating Mrs. as a March Madness game.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Never imagined North Western and which concert would be huge games at the end of the year, but here we are.
• 4:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I know you lost North Western, I'm not just saying that, but North Western, they're playing well here at the end of the year.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: You say are, and there are team that, for whatever reason, kind of seems like you're plays in pretty close at least here in the past few years.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: So that's something that, you know,
• 5:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: kind of worries me a little bit and what's content as one more than any team has that Mackey seemingly in recent years.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to get coming losses at Mackey.
• 5:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did you see when you were over Purdue, they've had five this year, five, four.
• 5:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm I may have to go back and do some research on that.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I remember losing to I think it was Wisconsin twice,
• 5:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: One was a Johnny Davis, he went off and won a game against Purdue.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a great game, and helped things either, but that's one I for sure remember, the Mackey used to be a place where people were afraid to play, but now it just seems like teams are playing really well when they come to Mackey, even teams like Washington at Penn State that are not world beaters.
• 5:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: They're coming in here and shooting a ball pretty well.
• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: against his Purdue team.
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: So pretty pre-concerning here for Martian, you know, Peru right now looks like a team that may not make it out of the second weekend.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: First weekend, excuse me.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, where does this rank?
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys and disappointments of Purdue basketball seasons?
• 6:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: With the caveat, Jake, that there's still some, to be played.
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It could end up being the greatest season of all time by the end of everything.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're perfectly, but as of right now, Jake,
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: But most disappointment that you can remember.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Certainly that I can remember and now granted by fandom, I guess if you will, goes back only about 15 years.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know a ton about Purdue before then, but obviously there's the Robbie Humble injuries that's pretty disappointing, but this team has been utterly healthy this year.
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know TKR missed a couple of games at the beginning of the season, but that didn't really seem to matter.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Jack Benner, he looked like he might have heard his hand.
• 6:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: haven't, haven't worked into that at all, but he was down a couple of times and was old in his hand.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully they don't lose him because he, Greg, as we've talked about, he's, he's a good piece for this team.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we, me, I'm Murphy, I'm a, I'm crazy, great kid and everything, but he just, I feel like we're probably going to get some a little bit better than him in the portal.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe somebody who's a little more athletic.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And only team that I can think of that it reminds me, our
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: that compares to the disappointment of this season, especially when you talk about expectations preseason.
• 7:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure there's probably been three or four times in my life.
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought Purdue was a legitimate national championship contender.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Robbie Hummel years were two of those.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And obviously those.
• 7:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: The 2010 team, he got hurt or 29, he got hurt.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: The 2010, he wasn't able to play the entire season.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was a disappointment.
• 7:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not the same thing.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: But this...
• 7:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Forget the win Robinson.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: That first team that went to the eight and got lost to Duke.
• 7:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: about was a fantastic season.
• 8:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about disappointing seasons.
• 8:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was a disappointing hey, if we wanted to talk about disappointing ends to seasons, we could really get into some stuff here at Purdue and Jake, Jake's lived it, but he is not even lived half of it for the age.
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's been brutal.
• 8:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Jake, I know we talked about this earlier this year on the show.
• 8:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I talked about Brainsmith and the fact that I just didn't think he could every year.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: He placed so many minutes, placed so many minutes and seems a little worn down at the end of the year.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's where his shots may be not consistent.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I know we hit the big three there late in that game.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: But he also struggled a little bit from the field.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you see from your perspective of Braiden Smith and his game and what needs, and do you think you'll be ready to really go big to tournament and in the NCAA tournament?
• 8:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm hoping that whatever this is, whether it's a law or not.
• 9:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's not feeling 100% whatever it is.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think get that figured out for the tournament starts.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: To me, one of the reasons that brings Smith, one of my favorite players and a lot of Purdue fans favorite players in the past few years because of the effort that he gave out there on the floor.
• 9:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: He seemed like he had that killer instinct had what it took to win those games that were close down the stretch.
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's just not something that I feel like we've seen.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: much this year, maybe early, you know, the season like Alabama, for example, Texas Tech, you know, those games are way on the season.
• 9:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you look at the comments and losses, it's Illinois.
• 9:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: He kind of brought him back by himself.
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, I don't know what's going through his mind, but I don't know if they think that they can just outscore people in one games.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's been multiple times this season where
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's proven not to be the case, even in the Ohio State game and other games.
• 9:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not been just him either.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's been like trade coffin random.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's some of these senior supposed leaders, they're out there throwing their hands up.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: You own at the ref or calling a foul or missing something.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what they're saying to do in a once or twice, whatever you're in a problem.
• 10:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, if you're doing that every time down the floor, and that's just something that we're necessarily used to at Purdue and something that.
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I don't know if it's in I.L.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's what's going to get into their heads.
• 10:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know if it's the preseason ranked number one or what, but they said they said the expectations before the season started, they said no final four bust.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And so far they looked like they're looking like they're going to be a bust.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's expectations Dave.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, expectations expectations that, you know, they they they said that they they put that on themselves.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: and they're failing to live up to it.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: The most disappointing thing to me is that they have become a match up team.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're good match up against some teams.
• 11:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not a very good match against other teams.
• 11:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And instead of imposing their will, which is what we thought they were going to be coming into the season, and they just haven't been.
• 11:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: And going back to Oscar Kloff and he had to be in a season when he was really good for Purdue.
• 11:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was scoring the ball pretty well, rebounding very well.
• 11:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we just feel like we haven't really seen the outside of, I had a really good name at Nebraska outside of that.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't played as much down the stretch, whenever Purdue needs to get off it's going, they go small, they put TKR at the five, but then they're kind of giving up rebounds.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of choosing your own death type of thing, where you either sacrifice a little bit of offense,
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: the rebounding or you sacrifice rebounding for offense.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: And a game like Ohio State where the offense really isn't doing much, it's not really a way that you can win, especially when Ohio State's student pretty well.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: John Mobley, you played fan-tastic.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was hoping that I know he was injured or a gamer too for I was hoping that he wouldn't be playing.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: after Purdue's sake just because I think it's how good he is and how going to shot maker he is.
• 12:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: But Bruce Soren is a guy that that pretty recruited using that same class of brain smith.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad Purdue got brain smith, but Bruce Soren is a great player and a guy that Purdue would like to have.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I need more Omer Meyer and Jack Binter.
• 12:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 12:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And you know, Jacob's into I just shouldn't just so put about him.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: believe he played four minutes in the Ohio State game in his plus minus was minus 13.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, hey, we wasn't there.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, obviously he's still freshman.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's put on a lot of weight, but still probably has ways to go there.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: When teams are being physical with him, like he did that kind of takes, you know, emanates his shot blocking ability and his ability to do his job, which is to protect the pain and when they're kind of having their way with him, he just pretty ineffective.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think year to year to two years down the road, it could be a pretty good player right now.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's just pretty much employable.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, Jake, big one tonight against Northwestern.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: What makes them dangerous?
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Nick Martinelli, that's a...
• 13:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: As about the only answer there, he is a shot maker, he takes shots that may not be conventional.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: It might be awkward looking shots, he's got kind of a goofy floater hook shot, type of type of offensive bag, if you will, but he's comfortable and ISO is comfortable posting up, he's
• 14:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: three-stout guides to them.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: kind of a struggle here for Purdue.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's also pretty good passer and a facilitator on offense.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: So I think those two will be the keys, kind of the keys on offense.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then a guy that and I was watching now, I use Northwestern game, a guy that I could just see and in my night mayors give him Purdue problems is Jake West, he's a freshman, 6, 380 pounds, number three from Northwestern.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: is a point guard pretty fast.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: He's also shooting 37% from three and he just looked.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: He just looks like that typical guy that is going to go out there and get Purdue problems.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Chris Collins always seems to have some kind of plan in place to be able to compete and make games close and bother Purdue especially when the games are in Evanston.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it will be interesting to see how per do bounces back after back to back losses.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, what are your predictions for the game?
• 15:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just want to see Michelle not having to watch the game between my fingers because I'm it's so ugly.
• 15:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's all I want to see man on Saturday was hard to watch.
• 15:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it was, and in the city arena, it was 50%, 45% you know, Peru fans, I hear it, Peru drew a pretty good crowd.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: So it was a lot of, a lot of Peru fans there, but like there was just nothing really for them to cheer for for for for the whole game decides besides when they got out to that early lead.
• 15:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think most Peru fans, I just kind of want to see the team that they've seen before the team.
• 16:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: that we saw against Alabama, the team that we saw against Texas, the team that we saw against IU, for the second time, the team against Nebraska, the team against Maryland, you know, that team is still in there somewhere after these roles that we have.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: We just need to sign a life here as kind of what we need.
• 16:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say Purdue's gonna win this game because I can't even bear the thought of them losing.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess gonna be pretty close, give me 87, 82, Jake.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was going to say Purdue 80 Northwestern 7 being at Northwestern and it could be a little closer than it then probably should be Northwestern and have been playing well, but if they can shut down, make Martnelly and try to keep hearing some page off a glass, I think this should be a pretty easy game for Purdue.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: might use the game, just dominate on the class, and that that's the things that we've repeated this year.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: That keeps the game, it's rebounding ball.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a simple, simple, is that not allowing second chance opportunities in this game.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: You've got to make Nick Barnelly work and get us stop the transition offense.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if we'll have to turn there at their team that they can like to run, and they might struggle a little bit more
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: So if they can keep my transition and rebound the ball, make Nick Martnelly work for shot and take maybe some some more bad shots.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for you should be able to come away with this one.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: You have a prediction guest host.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think even though it could be close since part of me says, oh, it could be an overtime because that seems to happen when Purdue goes to Northwestern.
• 17:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think Purdue's going to come out like they kind of did after their loss to Indiana.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think Purdue will actually come out and I won't be surprised if they actually went like by its 15.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: They should 80 to 65 because I know Northwestern try to keep it a half court as much as they can so I'll say 85 One of the few things that's kind of give me some hope here is in the 2018 2019 season I think Purdue lost around the same Ramana games and conference play That was the year that they you know kind of got hot there at the tournament at Carson Edwards went off and
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, obviously, pretty often doesn't have a player.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're way as explosive as Carson Edwards was, but that's something that's so good to be a little bit helpier.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, if that's a future warrior, Braden Smith, we'd have even CJ Cox.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, somebody's just got to get hot.
• 19:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what March's all about, getting hot at the right time, and hopefully they can show the fan base here, and honestly show themselves that they still have what it takes to contain for a national championship.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: We need Fletcher Lawyer to be our Ryan Klein.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
• 19:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we do.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you uh...
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: You do, that's a nice spot there, and a nice comparison from them to now, everybody tune in to watch Purdue.
• 19:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: They've got two more games left before the Big Ten tournament.
• 19:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we know that the only Big Ten championship thing win this year is if they win the tournaments.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're still playing to have one of those to have a double buy.
• 19:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're still in the running for a double buy, so these last two games are important for them.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's it for me, so I'm going to say goodbye.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Good night.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks Michelle, thanks Jake, and, of course, everybody, point them up.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, thank you, boy.
• 20:44
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