Latest / Aspergers & Autism Podcast [The Aspie World] AuDHD / Late Diagnosed Touretts And Autism
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- 0:52guest with me today. I always love this kind of
- 0:54segment of the podcast where I get to meet people.
- 0:57So I'm introducing a guest here, William Hardwick, and he has
- 1:00such a lot to say. I'm reading this guy's bio and
- 1:02it's just insane. So we're going to go through it
- 1:05right now. William, would you like to
- 1:06introduce yourself? Good morning.
- 1:09Thank you. Yeah.
- 1:10My name is William. I am a retired educator from
- 1:13California Northern Park. I taught first grade this middle
- 1:17school and elementary school principal.
- 1:19Wow. For the better part of 30 years
- 1:21I live with Tourette's syndrome. I live with bipolar disorder and
- 1:25I've gone through live a lot different than the average bear.
- 1:28My book, The invisible backpack A lot grades is in rhyme, prose.
- 1:32I write rhythmically, completely.
- 1:34It's how I how I deal with my conditions, how I heals, how I
- 1:39deal with the traumas of life. It's in writing.
- 1:42And now I get to share, I get to speak, I get to get back at the
- 1:45educational piece of life and teach again.
- 1:48And they get to teach. 8 billion versus 8000.
- 1:51A way of doing it. It's a way of overcoming
- 1:53judgment, a way of overcoming these conditions that we live
- 1:55with and finding another way other than say, medication.
- 1:58There's so many opportunities. So my life, my goals and my
- 2:02missions are to reach out to people like yourselves and have
- 2:05a conversation and maybe get in depth warrant I'm a visit and
- 2:08hear a story if I can. Dude I love this.
- 2:11That's who I am in a nutshell. So, so tell me dude, like when
- 2:15were you diagnosed with bipolar and Tourette's so.
- 2:18I was born at home. I was in a vegetative state in
- 2:221965, and I wasn't diagnosed until I was 35 years old with
- 2:25Tourette. Growing up in the 60s and 70s,
- 2:28it wasn't there. Small town America, One doctor.
- 2:31You know, that's a strange. Yeah, I was just a strange
- 2:33group, you know, has a lot to take.
- 2:36Bipolar, not till 54 years old, 55 years old.
- 2:41I've learned a lot about trauma in the last six years of my
- 2:44life, written a ton about it. And I've been in through
- 2:48facilities and I've been in through the big box cure alls.
- 2:52And I have a different way of looking at life and the middle
- 2:56health side of life and autism and anything's Nero challenge
- 3:02the world and challenge the medical world.
- 3:04Now we have to look at things differently.
- 3:06We have to look at as humans and start the hugs not drugs routine
- 3:09and start finding the way. So at 35 they shoved pills down
- 3:13for me. So they gave me Xanax, Risperdal
- 3:15and Ambien about 80,000 of them down my throat to oh, it's to
- 3:18make it better and to made it better for other people.
- 3:20It was miserable. And other people say, well, you
- 3:24are subdued for you. What about me?
- 3:28You know, my energy shouldn't have to be medicated.
- 3:30So yeah, it's 30 baht. And then I did it for about 18
- 3:33years, and at 53, I dealt it all.
- 3:35I decided to take my life back and a lot of things were
- 3:39happening and so I got rid of medication and changed my life
- 3:43again. Diet, exercise, food, right,
- 3:47Food's my feet. Therapy.
- 3:49Yeah, dude, I, I love that. Like, so look, I mean, I, I'm
- 3:52medicated, but like, I wasn't medicated for a long, long time.
- 3:55And, and I have my reasons for wanting to, you know, use
- 3:58medication to help with ADHD and, and kind of my autism.
- 4:01And one of the things I, I always say as well is like we
- 4:04talk about no judgement, right? And I think that people should
- 4:06definitely be open to kind of like, you know, if they feel
- 4:09like they should try medication, do it in your own terms and kind
- 4:11of test it and see what things happen.
- 4:13But I feel like a lot of the time the medical industry do try
- 4:15and pressure users to take medication because they feel
- 4:17like that's they, they feel like they're doing their best job
- 4:19right by saying, Hey, take this stuff because it's going to help
- 4:21you. It's, you know, we've got case
- 4:22studies on it. But a lot of the time it's like,
- 4:24what is good for you? You know, you have to test out
- 4:26different things. And I'm fascinated.
- 4:30You said that your book. So the, the, the, the, the book
- 4:33you've got out right. You said it was written
- 4:35rhythmically. Can you, can you explain what
- 4:37this, what that means? Like let.
- 4:39Me share that I let me just read 1 to you.
- 4:42I'm going to read the back. First of all, you probably read
- 4:44the back so the the listeners can understand why it's the
- 4:47invisible backpack. And then I'll share one I think
- 4:50that's appropriate for the audience, if that's OK.
- 4:52Please. This is the back of the book was
- 4:54written by a reader. It says the invisible backpack
- 4:57is a labor of love created from a lifelong struggle to come to
- 5:01terms with who the author is and accept himself.
- 5:03But he's meant to be Walgworn with an invisible backpack on
- 5:07our backs. It's where we put the hurts of
- 5:08life. When we're young and
- 5:11courageously climbing the stairs of life, it's extremely light
- 5:13and we really don't know it's there.
- 5:15As we get older, it gets heavier with whatever pain, greed or
- 5:18trauma we experience. Unfortunately, we resist taking
- 5:21these feelings out of our backpacks and letting go of
- 5:23them. Some of us hold so tightly we
- 5:26forget to make room for the things that lighten our load.
- 5:29Forgiveness, acceptance, tolerance and love where we put
- 5:32these items in our back. Cancel out all the negative
- 5:34things we've been pulling on to and our lives journey will
- 5:37become much lighter. And that's a reader's hey on why
- 5:42it's invisible backpack. But I, I write in in clear rhyme
- 5:46in the very beginning of the book.
- 5:48I, I, I don't want to get into the trauma piece, but children
- 5:51of my life. So I'm going to read to you
- 5:52children so precious. And this is kind of what
- 5:54rhythmical writing is to me. Simple.
- 5:57Every word has meaning. The most used word in my book is
- 6:00God. And the second most used word is
- 6:01love. Thank you, I love that.
- 6:05Children so precious. How can anyone get so mad they
- 6:09must abuse a child? They have so much, so much joy
- 6:13to give you in a manner that is so much.
- 6:16They are so honest in the way they speak and how they judge us
- 6:19all. Don't abuse that child's morale.
- 6:21Let them stand up tall where was light to crawl before he could
- 6:26walk. Please don't strike that child.
- 6:28Sit down, have a talk. Show them what it's like to love
- 6:33and believe in the Spirit. Don't show them your pain and
- 6:35agony and let them have all your hurt.
- 6:37Sure over to your God those feelings of the angry be
- 6:40stripped away. Enjoy your relationship.
- 6:42Please don't leave them astray. Remember words you speak and
- 6:45never be taken back. So before you tongue lash that
- 6:48child, think of the damage and that's written.
- 6:52And that's what I mean about children.
- 6:54Dude, I love that, you know, one of the ways in which I used to
- 6:57read out comments on live, because I've got to flex here as
- 6:59well, right, is one of the ways I used to read out comments was
- 7:03to sing the comments in kind of like a, a rhythmic way.
- 7:06And I love that. I love the way that that's
- 7:09structured, dude, and the. Only way I can do it it's I I'm
- 7:13I'm considered functionally literate in many ways.
- 7:15I my GPA college Sir was 2.01. That's barely cum laude.
- 7:20Yeah. I've never read a book cover to
- 7:21cover. I can't read very well.
- 7:23I don't write very well. It's something I can never do.
- 7:25My I QS off of charts, my abilities here.
- 7:29So in the 70s and shoving in the military party pop, you know, we
- 7:32we didn't know what to do with them.
- 7:33They didn't know what to do with me.
- 7:34I was a lot, you know, I'm that little Billy.
- 7:37So I understand. And then as a principle, you
- 7:39know, in the middle school, you know, I had we had an
- 7:42emotionally distorted classroom and I was on the cusp have
- 7:45Asperger's when we came to spectrum with autism and we
- 7:48started moving things in a in a way of Spectra thing threat
- 7:51center of ADHD. So I was on the cusp of watching
- 7:54the transition. And you know, I have a lot of
- 7:57experience dealing with children that suffer from the condition
- 8:00that I am and there's never a right way.
- 8:04I mean, never a wrong way. There's always another way.
- 8:06And so we always found each individual and finding a way to
- 8:09help and support each one. You know, I'm threat somebody
- 8:11else maybe need a different way of, of accepting their
- 8:16condition. I guess so, but it is always
- 8:18interesting. I I really, I've studied enough
- 8:21of it to know how challenging it is to have a condition in
- 8:25general. What would you say, what would
- 8:29you say the biggest challenge was for you growing up is like,
- 8:32you know, from say like 8 years old to 15, like what was the
- 8:35biggest challenge you faced? Adults.
- 8:40Well, she used a lot, bullied a lot.
- 8:43I had ticks, I had twitches, I had movements out, sores on my
- 8:45tongue inside now. But now I was a different beast.
- 8:48That was a lot to take the energy off the charts.
- 8:51No honor off switch, only a dimmer, you know, always going.
- 8:54So it was always challenging. You know, I couldn't sit in the
- 8:57chair. It didn't work for me.
- 8:59Sit down and shut up and read. It's never worked for anybody,
- 9:01you know, 10% A's and 90% failures.
- 9:04So it was challenged. It was challenging because they
- 9:07don't say no to do. They didn't know how to respond.
- 9:09They stick you out of class. Yeah, I just stand outside the
- 9:11door. Well, most of the time.
- 9:13Yeah, I, I, yeah, I, I totally, I totally get that.
- 9:16I mean, I had a similar experience, you know, and it was
- 9:18really. Yeah, I just more time in the
- 9:20principal's office as a student than I did as a principal.
- 9:24I guess that's really relatable for people because, like, it is
- 9:28that type of especially like the people of our generation and
- 9:31your generation, you know, because again, right.
- 9:34It wasn't until like the the late 80s that like autism,
- 9:37Asperger's and stuff was more of a, a terminal the medical
- 9:41profession could use on a broader scope, right.
- 9:44And they weren't really all educated about it.
- 9:46Especially like you say, in rural places, like I was in
- 9:48Wales. You know, there's no way
- 9:49anyone's ever going to know about it here in Wales.
- 9:52It's Yeah, it was just, it's just a crazy time.
- 9:55Here's a question. If you could go back in time to
- 9:58see yourself at 8 years old, what would you say to yourself?
- 10:05Well, I don't. I'll I'll praise it as that.
- 10:07Let's say 7th grade teacher Ted Weber.
- 10:10He was a flamboyant man in the 70s and he called me Billy
- 10:14Aloysius, Horatio Llewellyn, Hobart, Agamemnon Hartwick.
- 10:17He goes, you're going to make it someday, but go to the office.
- 10:19You're in my way. So I think I knew at that age
- 10:21that I had something different about me, but I didn't know what
- 10:25it was and I really didn't know how to control it.
- 10:27I didn't know what to do with it.
- 10:29It was a lot of energy, you know, you know that.
- 10:34And so that's my my parents. What's wrong with your boy?
- 10:39I didn't I I don't know. I don't know what I'd say to
- 10:41myself. Don't do anything different.
- 10:44I I don't have any grasp of it. I'm the proverbial little Billy.
- 10:48I'm the one that they named it that.
- 10:50What did that end of the? I love that.
- 10:53What would you what would you like people to know now about
- 10:57your conditions? Like if you have to, if I shot a
- 11:01Dallas like a sentence, what would you like to say to people
- 11:04so they could understand who you are and what you do as a person?
- 11:07You know, like as a person who has Tourettes, a person who has
- 11:09all of these issues, how would you?
- 11:14Is that is foul language that allowed?
- 11:18Of course it is. Yeah, of course.
- 11:19But. Let me read to rats in the very
- 11:21end of the book. I wrote it OK, and this will
- 11:23answer. This will answer your question.
- 11:25Wow, I'm ready. Hey dinner or Marcy?
- 11:28I finally found out I have tourettes.
- 11:30Holy shit, we can call them all Little Son of the Bitches and
- 11:33get away with it. Ah, Kappa Epsilon, my fraternal
- 11:37nickname was Twitch, a term of endearments.
- 11:40A nickname I'll never ditch. I lived 35 years of my life
- 11:44always wondering why I go from complete laughter to a sudden
- 11:48tearful cry. She's my entire childhood.
- 11:51Mainly by those we trust adults with.
- 11:54Worst of all, high school fucking bust.
- 11:56I was called a son of a bitch by Dale Thomas and literally kicked
- 11:59out of class and coach Dyhouse. I can and you on the bus but
- 12:03you're a fucking ass. My label given to me has long
- 12:05been misled even though you have the skin have been misread
- 12:09medication was described. What if you ask for that became
- 12:12it's not OK for medical professionals that cause us to
- 12:15go insane. If I have the only neurological
- 12:18disorder known to those prescribing drugs.
- 12:20Hey doctor Naris loves the answer.
- 12:21How about describing us? I want some guns.
- 12:24Got some shit? I have Tourette's, do you want
- 12:27some of it? The final straw came when I was
- 12:29arrested and thrown in jail. DUI Other than alcohol.
- 12:33You try and make bail. Before you judge of us who've
- 12:36suffered from this pain, think to yourself, what do I have a
- 12:39game? We all have a disability.
- 12:42Take a look in the mirror. Can I walk on water or do I
- 12:44simply have a fear? How to accept others no matter
- 12:47the twitch, the glasses of the tree.
- 12:49Thank God for those who understand why I chose to smoke
- 12:51weed. The only true leaf I've ever had
- 12:53of the love footprints in the sand.
- 12:55My friends, thank you. So often people walk away or
- 12:58simply want to ignore. Maybe threats will go away and
- 13:01many more do. All of you, the hasa kids, the
- 13:04one that makes me be, Don't let them put you in a box.
- 13:07You live and be free. I'm proud of my life each and
- 13:09every day. Of course, there's signs I think
- 13:11make it go away. So when you're passing judgement
- 13:14and you're choosing to discriminate, you're now one of
- 13:16them. You're causing the threats.
- 13:20Dude, that's amazing. That really isn't.
- 13:22I'm going to get a copy of this book, dude.
- 13:23Like it's insanely good. I'll.
- 13:25Say I'll send you one my get, I'll mail you Oh.
- 13:27Please, Yeah, that'd be amazing. I just like I I love stuff like
- 13:30that. So I got I like, I like rhythmic
- 13:32poetry, right, Because like it just has such a, a, a dopamine
- 13:36hit of having rhythmic poetry you.
- 13:39Know someone described it. It's in the beginning.
- 13:41I have some accolades and Randy Fugate, educator Northern
- 13:46California wrote you've broken all the rules and demycified
- 13:49writing poetry, making you accessible to anyone.
- 13:52That's a cool compliment. You know, I really appreciate
- 13:55that hypo because, you know, honestly, it's not poetry to me.
- 13:59It's my health, It's my it's my therapy.
- 14:02People are going to say, well, it looks pretty easy.
- 14:04It's the hardest thing I'm to get to this point.
- 14:06It's been held getting through the last six years.
- 14:09So if you're thinking about any wanting a middle health change,
- 14:12it's not easy. It's the hardest thing you'll
- 14:14do. It's not a cast.
- 14:15I'm not on chemo, you know, we have to get fluid because it's
- 14:19there every minute and we have to deal with it.
- 14:22It's not going to go away. We got to find a way.
- 14:24A. 100% dude. Riding like he's it.
- 14:27Mine's riding a cooking. Everyone has one.
- 14:29We said find it, find a way to pull it out of ourselves, open
- 14:35that backpack and take one thing out.
- 14:36You can't get the tea without one.
- 14:38Yeah, exactly. And I think, you know, anything
- 14:41that's worth having should be hard work, right?
- 14:42So life is life is a, is a test and it's a, and I always say
- 14:46this as well, like, you know, in school, you you learn and then
- 14:48take a test. But but in life God tests you
- 14:51and then you learn, right. So it's kind of like, well.
- 14:54School's a math. I think it's always been bad.
- 14:56Yeah, 'cause it is like schools, they don't know what they're
- 14:59doing. I mean, they do instead of to
- 15:00make factory work. So schools kind of like, can
- 15:02you, can you clock in at this time?
- 15:04Can, can you ask when to go to the bathroom?
- 15:06It's like, you know what I mean? Like, that's not stuff of
- 15:08people, is it? Let's be honest.
- 15:10The greatest invention of modern time and by far the worst
- 15:12system. Yeah, exactly.
- 15:14Educators everywhere, anybody out there listening,
- 15:17superintendents, educators, you all had a chance coming back in
- 15:20COVID to get rid of sit down, shut and read.
- 15:22You could have created an education system that works, but
- 15:25it's easy to fail. So fail, you know you don't fail
- 15:28the kids. You follow your day.
- 15:30It's, it's, yeah, it is so funny because like the educators are
- 15:32doing their best and they're doing the things that they want
- 15:34to do. And like you said, it's a great
- 15:35invention. We all need education.
- 15:36That's how we move forward, right?
- 15:38But at the same time, the structure, which is completely
- 15:40just kaput. Like it's just, it's, it's not
- 15:43fit for purpose. That's.
- 15:45It I don't get away from teaching, it's our concentrating
- 15:47on learning. Yeah, yeah, dude, it was AI
- 15:51think. I think the Dalai Lama said, you
- 15:53know, when we speak we get words we already know, but when we
- 15:55listen, we have the ability to learn something new.
- 15:57And I think that's the difference between learning and
- 15:59and teaching, right? And I my favorite shortest rhyme
- 16:02I wrote and the mind changed against its will is of the same
- 16:05opinions. That's for my friends in DC.
- 16:11Oh man, I don't know if you call them friends.
- 16:15There's a lot going on right now.
- 16:16But dude, you know what's funny and I and I think is brilliant
- 16:19about you is that like you have this like crazy charisma energy
- 16:24that like just radiates from you, right?
- 16:26And for a guy who's been through trauma or been throughout the
- 16:27ups and downs, how's these issues?
- 16:29You're living proof that it's not the things that define you.
- 16:32It's who you are as a person, as a spiritual being.
- 16:35Like that defines who you are, right?
- 16:36And how you shine through that and what your relationship to
- 16:38the universe is. And I think you're doing a
- 16:40fantastic job and I think you're a fantastic role model for a lot
- 16:43of people. I do have a question.
- 16:45How can people find you online? Do you have a website?
- 16:47Do you have social media? Like how do people find out more
- 16:49about you? Well, not yet.
- 16:51First of all, the website we're in the process.
- 16:55OK, you can Google the invisible backpack.
- 16:58It's the book is everywhere. We just re released it.
- 17:00It has just got a five star review from great reads.
- 17:04Why so accreditation and so Google the book.
- 17:08My my email's easy. It's the invisible backpack 2023
- 17:13at Gmail. You can e-mail me.
- 17:16We're working on a website. I don't do social media for many
- 17:18reasons. Don't need to get into it right
- 17:20now, but it's not for me. I, I'm a I'm a purist and
- 17:24naturalist and techno idiot. So I I prefer to reach out and
- 17:28let you all I share this glory and I'll continue to tell it and
- 17:31let the book do its work. So I'm enjoying this type of
- 17:34process. It's a it's a great thing, But
- 17:37so you can reach out through e-mail, you can get the book.
- 17:41I'm in Saint Augustine, you're in the area.
- 17:44I have some book signings coming up pretty soon that books newly
- 17:47into Jacksonville Barnes and Noble as well.
- 17:50So got to get out in the public, but it's easy to find a lot out
- 17:55there on me right now and it's kind of fun, exciting.
- 17:58I'm just enjoying it, very humble and besides tell a story
- 18:01and hopefully one other person can tell theirs.
- 18:05So what's what's next for you? What what's what's the next
- 18:08thing for, for William? Like what?
- 18:09What are you? What are you doing next?
- 18:12We're doing it today. I have an interview coming up at
- 18:1611 with book and author group summarization.
- 18:20It's called Book and author. As a matter of fact, Jed from
- 18:23the Great Reads organization kind of connected me.
- 18:25He's the one that I credited the book and did my last interview.
- 18:29So I'm going to continue the process in store for me.
- 18:32You know, hopefully this I have two books more coming out.
- 18:34My second book is titled mental health, mental health, mental
- 18:38health, you decide. And the third book's entitled
- 18:42normal, basic and average not and it's My Autobiography and so
- 18:46all in rhymes too. So I'm working on those and I
- 18:50really want to get out in public and start speaking.
- 18:52I think for me, I don't need a lot of income.
- 18:56I I want to get out and experience it.
- 18:58I think I'm ready for that. I think the world is in a spot
- 19:00to hear a story such as mine and maybe that.
- 19:04I think so, yeah, dude. And you're awesome.
- 19:06Like there's nothing worse than going to see a keynote speaker
- 19:08who's completely boring, and you're the exact opposite of
- 19:11boring. So I think it'd be really good.
- 19:13Well, I I have a 10 minute intro.
- 19:17It's the 10 minute intro to My Autobiography and it's quite
- 19:19telling and it's captivating. I was in Colorado and I
- 19:24delivered it at a speaker's Guild there and the lady was a
- 19:2748 year veteran speaker. When I finished, she said I, I
- 19:31have no problem. That's nice.
- 19:34And so I, I think I'm ready. I think I get up there.
- 19:37I think I could really benefit some schools around the area,
- 19:40high schools especially kids and young adults get ready to make
- 19:43transitions into dealing with it.
- 19:45I don't require much. I ask that the they buy a copy
- 19:47of the book for their staff at a discounted rate.
- 19:50Got a couple bucks my way to to pay for things and move on.
- 19:52But that's what I would like to start doing and get out there
- 19:54and share. Absolutely.
- 19:57There's a, there's a, there's a company called Tails to inspire.
- 20:01You should definitely reach out to those, or I can link you if
- 20:04you remind me by e-mail. And they, they have tails to
- 20:07inspire speakers and they help get gigs and things like schools
- 20:11and universities and stuff like that.
- 20:12So it'd be really cool if she's connected with them because I
- 20:14think they'd be really interested in what you have to
- 20:16offer and. I'll get 2 shout outs.
- 20:18There's a lot of publicist Christina Deptula authors, large
- 20:21and smallest is in Davis, CA. She's the one that connected you
- 20:23and I, and my publisher is Paul Metal Publishing and they're in
- 20:27South Carolina. The president, Jack, they're
- 20:29just great people and I just want to let people know that.
- 20:31Looking for somebody to help you.
- 20:34Christina has autism and her company, organizations, authors
- 20:38large and small, and she has disabled people helping us
- 20:42disabled people get out and share a story.
- 20:43And that's kind of the new organization be part of.
- 20:45I met her in San Francisco about a year.
- 20:48I have to go to writers when I decided to take the sponge and
- 20:52it worked. Dude, I love that San Francisco,
- 20:55my favorite place in the whole world, by the way.
- 20:56Dude there. We just go, yeah, it's top five
- 20:59by far. Absolutely.
- 21:00It's amazing city. My guy like.
- 21:02The food's off the charts. Off the charts and everywhere
- 21:05you go and you're crazy. Maybe I mean Grant.
- 21:07Ave. Even AT&T.
- 21:08Park, dude, it's, it's great. Best crap sandwich in San
- 21:13Francisco? It's an AT&T Park.
- 21:15My, my guy, Like I, yeah, it's so good.
- 21:17Like I it's just so expensive. Like I'd love to live there.
- 21:20I just can't afford it. And you're 90 miles from
- 21:22freedom. I mean from Napa.
- 21:24Yeah, yeah, you get, you can always get some wine, you know,
- 21:27and just go for a drive and. Or maybe not at the same time.
- 21:31Not at the same time. I mean, go for a drive and then
- 21:33have the wine. But I mean, like it's you're
- 21:34close enough right over the Bay Bridge and you're gone.
- 21:37It's amazing. Yeah, it's fantastic.
- 21:39And I stopped feeling, you know, when you're like flying into
- 21:41SFO, it's like, it's where I'm where I'm at, man.
- 21:43That's where I'm at. I, I was born and raised at 300
- 21:46miles north on the Oregon border on the coast called across the
- 21:49city California. So San Francisco was a frequent
- 21:51place. I went to live in Chico and
- 21:53Arcada, Humble State and Chico. So San Francisco went frequent.
- 21:57I lived in the Bay Area in Lafayette right during the Lobo
- 22:00Free earthquake in 89. I was a medical Rep for
- 22:02Whitehall Laboratories. I was working with Advil.
- 22:05It was a really challenging job. Actually, it was, but I was, I,
- 22:09I lived in the Bay Area for a couple years too, so very
- 22:12familiar with a lot of San Francisco.
- 22:14Yeah, it's, it's a great place. I think, you know, they're,
- 22:17they're developing parts of like Tenderloin now, which is a bit
- 22:19sketchy, but like, it really is good.
- 22:22You know, I really liked the Golden Gate Park and the, you
- 22:25know, the Japanese tea gardens. Like the whole, the whole
- 22:27experience of just being in San Francisco, I think is, is just
- 22:29crazy good. And downtown's great.
- 22:31You know what I mean? You're like Union Square.
- 22:33But you know, I, I, when I was there last, I was, I was staying
- 22:36at Nob Hill on the top of California Street.
- 22:38And it was just great because I could literally walk to Grand
- 22:41Ave. from where I was staying, right?
- 22:42And I get just like 2 minutes and like I was in Grand Avenue.
- 22:44I don't think I'd eat in Grand Ave., but like, you know, the,
- 22:48the, the you're right, though, all the other food, I mean some
- 22:50of the best Italian food I've ever had ever Like and if I
- 22:54start back the New York. Literally is off the charts.
- 22:56It is off the charts. Yeah, dude, I think it's crazy
- 22:59good anyway. Yeah, yeah, Will.
- 23:04There's a plan for San Francisco.
- 23:06I know, like I, I just, I want to go back and be there for
- 23:08ages. But yes, it's such a good place.
- 23:10Listen, thank you so much for coming on the show.
- 23:11I think this is going to inspire a lot of people.
- 23:14The invisible backpack book, get it where you can guys.
- 23:16Like I'm, I'm super interested. I'm I'm so excited to read this
- 23:19book. Like it's like nothing else I've
- 23:20ever come across. I think it's amazing.
- 23:22William, take care and I will speak to you soon.
- 23:26Come on, you have a, you have a minute for a joke.
- 23:28Yes, I do. So Jesus no and Moses are
- 23:31playing golf. OK and it's a par 3 and there's
- 23:35a pod in front. The little old man walks up and
- 23:37asks to join. They said sure.
- 23:38So Moses spits the tea and it lands on Noah.
- 23:41Then it's going to be Moses and Jesus, and then this little guy
- 23:45don't know, it gets up and it gets it.
- 23:47It's kinda awkward. There's no idea.
- 23:49It's going for the water and the water has an arc appear and it
- 23:52takes across on the green. So it's Moses turning.
- 23:57Moses gets up, strikes it nicely, and it's going for that
- 24:00pond and the pond arts and the water ball goes up on the green.
- 24:05Go to Jesus's turning. Jesus, this perfect swing, grab
- 24:09the rock club. He doesn't make mistakes.
- 24:11And it's going for the water and it skips across on the green.
- 24:14He turns her ass. It's your turn.
- 24:15So this old man gets up and he slices one way out in the woods.
- 24:19And a squirrel picks up the ball and runs across it their way.
- 24:22An eagle swooped down, picks up the squirrel, flies across the
- 24:24screen, drops the ball off and goes in the hole.
- 24:27And Jesus turns her ass. Come on Dad, just play golf.
- 24:31What? Respected my friend.
- 24:35Yeah, it's good. It's good.
- 24:38I think that's a, there's a life lesson there somewhere.
- 24:40I don't think it's less of a joke, more of a life lesson,
- 24:42right? Well, thank you, Sir.
- 24:45I appreciate the time you're back together.
- 24:47If you want to have another show and if I can help out across the
- 24:50pond, let me know. Thank you.
- 24:52Hey guys, thank you so much for checking out this podcast.
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- 25:01OK guys, See you in the next one.
- 25:03Peace.