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Discovering DANUCERA™: The Secrets Of French Beauty And Glowing Skin Revealed · Skin Anarchy

• 0:06
  SPEAKER_00: Hi guys, welcome back.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: This is your host, Ecta.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm really excited about our host today because she is the founder of a beautiful line that I absolutely love, Danu Sarah.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you guys have heard of it.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: If not, you need to check it out.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_00: But she's also a master aesthetician and truly a master of her craft.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm super excited to introduce you guys to Danuta Miloch.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome, welcome to the show, Danuta.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited to host you.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_01: Hello, and I'm so um uh happy to be here and uh to share my you know view and skincare with you.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, no, I'm really excited.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: I love uh I love the line and it's so luxurious, and I love like actually treating myself to it.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I can't wait to learn about your products because they make me feel so wonderful every time I use them.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: But I want to learn about you, Danuda, and uh what you've been through, you know, to create the line and your whole career, like how it's led up to um, you know, being in the skincare industry.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: If you could walk us down uh memory lane, that'd be great.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so skincare is my passion when girls were playing uh you know uh dolls or other toys.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: I was making um lotions and potions.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I practically, yeah, from very early on, uh I knew what I would love to do.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: I always wanted to um develop you know a beauty elixir and uh keep ours, you know, as youthful and as beautiful as possible.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_01: So I love things, you know, beautifying things that you know for me, beauty is not just something, you know, it can be anything, can be a table that you can make it prettier, you know, putting flower vase on or so forth.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, beautifying things, beautifying my surroundings, uh, I uh beautifying, you know, my skin, improving my skin was always my passion.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I grew up with two older sisters, and one of them suffered from acne.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_01: And so I saw the difference between you know the confidence of two of them and uh what kind of impact uh you know your skin can have on your uh you know formative years.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: So I was there mixing masks and helping my sister, you know, deal with uh breakouts, and obviously now she has amazing skin and she's all grown up, but you know, um it's kind of you know interesting that I always mention her because you know her struggles I felt uh you know, um, and she had a sensitive skin, so we were just like looking at things, what can we do and how can we use things, you know, different products.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: And in Poland, you know, uh resources were pretty limited at that time.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_01: You know, there this is during you know late 70s, 80s, so yeah, so we kind of had to mix our own potions.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I bet.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: No, I mean that's so interesting though, Danuda, because I feel like some of the best stories always start with a family member involved, you know what I mean?
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like a family member yourself journey, and I love that because it's it isn't interesting like when we have to solve a problem for somebody else, we go so you know what I mean?
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like you just go the extra mile and you solve it.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I love that your sister was involved in this journey, and that's that's cool.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: I like that because you were solved, you solved her skin issues.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's really cool.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I want to load though, you know, how are the early?
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: I know you told us about like, you know, you started off it kind of, you know, playing around and stuff, but the journey to becoming an aesthetician, I feel like no one takes the time to explain that.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I I know you've had such great experience, you know, in your career so far with that.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: How is like being an aesthetician and like that route like that you took?
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because I know now things are very streamlined.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, what was that like?
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, going into the aesthetic uh space and working with clients, and how did that transform the products that you created with your line as well?
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so the aesthetic field in Poland is really uh well developed, you know, we study alongside with um factors, and this is basically like um uh a nursing degree post um, you know, um high school.
• 4:08
  SPEAKER_01: So that's you know, that sort of you know, uh uh you study anatomy, you study, you know, skin functions and so forth.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_01: And so so so that definitely helped me, but then you know, here's the study, and then there's a real world, and you go out in the real world, and then the best teacher is the client.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I've done thousands and thousands of facials, and in each and every time until today, I learned from my clients, and I this is the most amazing and appreciative, you know, time.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_01: Now I'm talking to you, I'm sure I'm going to learn something from you.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, and I I think I think we're both gonna learn.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm gonna learn from you because I think my big question has always been, you know, in the US, I know we do, um, like I said, you know, aesthetician, um, schooling and the you know, actual training and stuff is so different.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I think in the European world, it's so different.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why I asked you because I was like, you know, I feel like there's a big gap, you know, uh in the in the type of work that's done and also just transitioning, you know, uh the kind of techniques.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm I want to ask you though, what are some of the most like common skin conditions that you like are used to working with, you know, and or you've seen or things that you saw before you started the line, you know, and said, hey, I want to I want to actually target this with my products.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so you know, the skin is um a beautiful organ that regenerates itself, but it's forever changing.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_01: So it's it's the most outer organ.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_01: So it's really sensitive to environments.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: So depending which climate you live, like if you you know, we're right now, I'm I'm actually right now in Philadelphia, but if I'm in Philly or New York, the humidity is totally different than if you are in Colorado or um or Arizona and so forth.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_01: So your needs for skincare are totally different depending on your climate and um and uh your skin condition.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: And so to begin with, you know, your skin can be oily or it can be you know drier.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_01: So there are different concerns, and then there is a plethora of products.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: So, how we incorporate our own skin conditions, our own skin concerns, plus all these products and how we use them.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's where the aesthetician steps in.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm on this kind of a bridge between the product and the skin condition, and I can show you and help you navigate the skincare world.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: And basically, here's the product, and here is how you use it, because that's there is a big disparity between having products on the shelf, having products in your medicine cabinet, and how you use it.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Most of our clients are supremely confused still.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, no, I I can imagine.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'm confused.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: With all the education, with all we have, I still have questions like, oh, are you supposed to remove cleanser?
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: Or you know, so it's it's an it's a constant reminder, yes, you know, this is how you do it, and then it kind of registers somewhere, and then you know, we still make mistakes because we're human.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I myself the other day I put on, you know, uh three days in a row, I put on retinol, and then my skin was sensitive, parched, and it's on fire.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, no, I do that too sometimes.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I think you know, that's interesting that you say that, Denuda, because I I really feel like people we we pay so much attention to like what's the right step, you know, in our routine.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I see a lot of people uh posting about it on social media, like, you know, first you do cleanser and all these steps, but no one ever mentions that you need to go and see an esthetician to really understand your product sometimes, you know, because they're the ones who, you know, they go through the whole routine of giving you the best facial that you could, you know, be given, like give based on your skin type.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: And it always baffled me how we of you know, like kind of as an industry and also like just consumers, like we don't um I don't know, we don't talk about that a lot.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we all go to our facialists and we all go to our um aesthetician and we we get our facials done, but then how many times are we sitting down and asking them, like, what are the right steps?
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like why should I use this toner between this, you know, like that kind of thing?
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_00: So and then how to how to apply it.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, exactly.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: I always say, you know, you might have a Windex and you spray the Windex on to clean it, but if you don't actually get in there and you know and wipe it correctly, you're not you're gonna have streaks, you're not going to have uh clean.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: So it's a little bit like that with products, you know, you can apply your cleanser on your face, but if you don't massage it and if you don't remove it correctly, if you don't, you know, uh double cleanse, you're not going to prep the skin in a proper way.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and and then you're preventing from this great products that follow it, toners and um and serums and so forth to penetrate, and then you know what I mean, so it becomes it becomes not a good base.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_00: No, and that's something I actually want to uh ask you more about because I know with your line with Donna Sarah, it's a beautiful, beautiful line.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I I find it to be actually very easy to use, like even if you're not somebody who believes in, you know, um even if you like a lot of steps and you like learning about it, but it's a very easy-to-use line for everybody.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to ask you, you know, Danuda about that because I how did you like bring all of that, right?
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like bring that aesthetician stuff and then bring it into your line as far as like ease of use, you know, these are the products that really work for the skin types that are you know using it.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, can you tell us about that?
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I wanted to create a line that can fit for everyone.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: So a skincare junkie can use it to sort of uh streamline it to go to go to you have that skin streaming story.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the person who doesn't use enough products can follow and create routine.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I wanted to streamline going back to the basics, keeping the regimen.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's like your black dress, your capsule wardrobe.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: This is your capsule skincare.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and if we don't have the basis, you know, well worked out, we're gonna miss the steps and it's just it's not gonna be the same.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: And in my opinion, 95% of people don't cleanse their skin properly.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: We rush through it, uh, we don't uh put a proper emphasis on it.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: So I created my first product, Serabound, that is like a universal balm that can be used in any circumstances, but the best use of it is to cleanse the skin.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: And uh you still you start with massaging in that cleanser, and then you emulsifying the buildup, you're emulsifying sunscreen, you're emulsifying makeup or whatever the grime of the day, and you use a washcloth, remove that, splash it with water, do a second cleanse with you know, mixing with water, splash it again.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: You need to spend at least three to five minutes cleansing your skin.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: And not to overstrip.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: So that the main thing with the with Seraubam is not over stripping.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: Interesting.
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: So there is time, the amount of time we're supposed to be cleansing our skin.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: You said three to five minutes?
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, three to five minutes.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: Massage, I'm enjoying it.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: You know, this is in the evening, not in the morning.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: In the morning, it's uh, you know what I mean.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: You have hopefully you have all the think about sunscreen.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_01: We all wear sunscreen.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: It takes a while, even if you jump in the water, it's you know, a lot of them are waterproof, and you know, they just don't uh get removed properly, you know, water or just a little micellar water or so forth.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_01: You really need to think about this is my whatever I had for the day, you know, my layers of skincare, my sunscreen, you know, BB cream or or uh makeup.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: I want to remove that.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_01: At night to prep.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_00: I have one question.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: One question was like, I you know, I know I see a lot of videos, right?
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: I see a lot of people like with a little strawberry, and you know, they wipe it down with like a like a cleansing cloth, and it's terrible.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but then you know, even after that, that's why I asked you.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: This is so interesting that even you know, you have to still you know use three minutes to really get into your skin and get all of that product out, right?
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, get into the crevices, get into their little pores, massage it in.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: When you're massaging in the cleanser, it kind of emulsifies, unplugs the pores, and uh and uh you know uh sets a skin uh uh clean, however, not over stripping.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_01: So another you know common mistake that people do use you know soapy cleansers and uh gel cleansers that might be over stripping.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it's okay to use some of them occasionally, but I think on a daily regimen, in a daily basis, you want to cleanse your skin that after you cleanse the skin feels soft but supremely clean.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_00: Now I want to uh talk about the tonic actually, uh, because this is one of the best products I think I've ever tried, like with the you know, this this kind of product, like the liquid, you know, that step in your routine.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: I would love for you guys to tell you know, for you to tell us about this one because I think it's hard.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: I for me, I don't know for anyone listening out there if you guys have a hard time with toners or any kind of liquid products, but I never know Danuda what to buy.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like I really don't.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: So I would love for you to tell us, you know, what went behind this.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: So where the that's where the Lucera D22 comes in.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's very, it's very simplified and it's amazing for any skin type.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: You know, as a doctor, you probably know certain pro certain ingredients are good for anti-aging, like vitamin A and good for acne, right?
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: So so there is a there is a similarity in that because you know, both conditions, the aging condition and acne condition, enjoy being ex skin being exfoliated, regenerated, and and and whenever you help skin to regenerate faster and better, and uh uh you know you you're doing the anti-aging and you're doing healing from from breakouts and so forth.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: So I wanted to create a toner that can be compatible with any skin type, even pregnant women can use it.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I wanted to be exfoliating, so we added the polyhydroxy acids, which are gentler um form of acids, but I added um uh white birch, sap, and white birch juice.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: Why white birch?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: Uh growing up in Poland, white birch was like a night nature tonic.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: You we used to drink that, we used to apply on our skin just directly on the skin, and you get more even a skin tone, pigmentation more even, and so forth.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: So my tonic is pretty effective, pretty active.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: However, you know, the application is super important, and I am uh, you know, it's clean beauty, obviously, and um, so no, no fragrance, um, no irritants really.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: So you put that on the skin with a cotton round, and uh there is a form of application that I developed that is like lifting and firming and activating your skin circulation, cleansing deeper, and lifting kind of balancing the face uh features.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, we all have like one side is you know needs a little bit more work than the other, and some areas like maybe your chin when it breaks out needs a little bit extra, so you double, you know, on that area.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I love I love this product.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I think for the best way I could in in simple terms, if I were to describe this product, is like a um, you know, it's after you cleanse, it's just everything you need to make sure your skin really fully has been cleansed, but then also nourished and rejuvenated, and everything is like pH.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, pH balance.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: So the the the main uh also also um you know purpose of the toner is to balance the pH of the skin so skin it can actually receive the next steps, which are uh either mask or serum, so whatever that follows.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: This one actually I wanted to say this, and um, you know, I know that we all know about biologique's uh beautiful, beautiful tonic, right?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: We we know about that, and I think ever since that, this is the first one I've tried that has given me similar results, if not you know, better for my skin because it's yeah, I I feel clean.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: I draw inspiration from all the products that I've used in my life, and uh and I'm proud of it.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: However, I wanted to create something that was in me, what I would improve, you know, working with other lines.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I worked on a on um efficacy that makes sure that produces super results about being clean beauty, about you know, no fragrance or a frag, you know, just a natural uh scent, whatever appears from you know, from a natural ingredients, and uh less sensitivity.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um so there's I address all the things in my uh product that I you know I've seen you know, otherwise in other lines.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: I love that though.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's my uh my some of my favorite lines are made by amazing just uh uh founders that have the aesthetician background because you guys know you've seen everything.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you've seen it.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: I've been I've been you know using these steps I've always used in my treatment room.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: So when I create a rescue facial, I we always use you know a cleanser, an a toner, a washcloth during you know, cleansing process, uh, massage, electric currents, LED, all of those things, you know.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: I truly I'm a purist, I still believe in them, you know.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they work.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, why not?
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, that's like I get it.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um no, I want to talk about this product.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very, very curious about this, and I have no questions because I know a lot of you out there might be like me, and you know, for me, this the moisturization step for my routine is very complex, believe it or not.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: I get very into the step, I get very excited because I I'm not like I don't layer moisturizers, you know, dunno, but I it's like you know, that feeling it either feels amazing on my skin or it just doesn't, and that's where I'm very picky.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: And I I don't know, maybe other people are like me or not, but I'm very picky about like like more heavier and richer moisturizers because I like how they make me feel, and I think your Supreme uh Cream Supreme, I believe, or Supreme Cream?
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, cream supreme, yeah.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, cream supreme is amazing, and I want to learn about it.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, what was your inspiration behind creating like a more you know, luxe moisturizer?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, I have an access to all the best skincare in the world, so we're lucky, and uh and I wanted to create you know, this just one cream that would work on many skin types and many concerns because you know I noticed my clients they might be having breakouts and acne, but they are very concerned about anti-aging.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the person that is concerned about anti-aging might have a sensitivity at the same time.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: So obviously, for me, a really great moisturizer has to be moisturizing, yeah, has to be firming, has to be balancing, and uh uh helps to heal uh post-breakouts or any kind of um sensitivities.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I took a really long time choosing you know ingredients in it, and I you know, and I narrow down a few that will really work, and um uh the probiotics, the different types of uh moisturizing factors, the uh syntella asiatica for healing, so and firming, because I feel like even the youngest person needs a little bit more structure of um firming, more for tightening pores and kind of like helping oval to stay nice and firm, you know.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right now we know that 20-year-olds already get Botox, so why not getting that firmness from a cream?
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, exactly.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: I have my opinions about that though.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Oh we're not gonna discuss that.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: But no, I mean I think this is so brilliant because it really does have the peptides and all of the wonderful, wonderful technology that helps us, you know, have that boot.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: I went peptides, you know, heavy.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: And and so I was thinking about how to create like almost like a nutriment for the skin.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: What's the best nutrition?
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: So you have the probiotics, you have the peptides, you have the uh active ingredients of you know that will give you glow and uh yeah, the fats from the you know, from the um different bottles, and just you know, creating magic potion.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: The cream supreme is the perfect name because I think it's supreme to all creams I know.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: No, it's an amazing product.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Don't be sorry, you made something phenomenal.
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, for some people, but you know, it doesn't have uh I made sure there's no fragrance, artificial fragrance whatsoever, and no artificial colorance.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: So I eliminated all the things that potentially could be harmful, or you know how we layer.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Creams like one is one fragrance, another is that so so this one blends with everything.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like you can have a serum from Bureau Chic Rouch or Valmont, and you use the um you know cream supreme and it goes with it.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: So that's why.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_00: See, this is why I love your line because every product, like, see, people talk about like luxury, right?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: They say luxury skincare, luxury skin.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: What is luxury skincare?
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's supposed for me, luxury skincare should do what it's supposed to do really well, but then feel amazing, you know what I mean?
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, not just goopy, like it shouldn't feel science too science-y to me, like from the the way it feels as a consumer, but it should have the science in it, and so your brand is just such a testament to that.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're just you're you really found that balance, you know.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: It's so beautiful.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I found I found an amazing formulator, and she understood that you know it's not enough to add all the active ingredients for those.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: I always said, you know, my active ingredients just put it to the max.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: But it has to feel good, it has to wear well, you know.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I always judge a skincare how everything looks if I use it a few days in a row, like do the steps, and how does the skin you know look, you know, a few hours later in the morning when you apply at night and so forth.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: So to me, to me, the you know, how your skin is responding is super important.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then I wanted to make you know uh products that still have you know, you don't have to pay a thousand dollars for a cream to get the really delicious cream and and and um and a cream that gives you like amazing results.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and like that one cream you can travel with too.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like I feel like, yeah, like for me when I'm traveling, like right now I'm traveling and I'm moving around a lot.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's just you know, part of medicine for me.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_00: And I always find myself taking the same eight or ten products wherever I go.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: Because if it works, if you can put one cream on your face and that's gonna do everything you need it to do, that's amazing.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_00: I love you know, I love the nine steps at night and the 10, you know, I love it.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's fun, but it's practical, you know, it's just not practical.
• 24:07
  SPEAKER_01: That's practical and it's not always sufficient for the skin because skin also needs, you know, to go on a on a diet from time to time and just you know to to balance it out.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: If it's all working, you know, do your 20 steps.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: But I find myself, like as you know, as I mentioned before with my journey with retinol, you know, we we overdo it sometimes and we need to back off and you know and do our basics.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: No, I agree with you.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: I I actually I hope you come out with a mask, Denuda, because I love masks.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm making a capsule of eight products altogether, they are growing organically.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's um it's a you know amazing, time consuming process, and uh, and you know, if I don't love the product, I won't, you know, I won't uh launch it.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, or real, you know, really strict about that.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, and I just wanted to to be able to share, you know, what I've done for you know 30 years and and treating thousands and thousands of clients and helping thousands and thousands of clients navigate the skincare work, you know.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's the thing, you know.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: What I love, that's what I meant when I was saying earlier.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: Aestheticians to me are so brilliant because, especially at your level, you know, Danuda, because I think you guys, you just it's like seeing so many situations being resolved.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: Not just okay, you've seen so much skin, you've seen so much skin, but you guys have seen like you you have watched the journey, you know, multiple times, which is from bad skin to good skin.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: And that's where I think the really the experience is, you know, seeing that okay, people are getting better, people are improving their skin, and they're happy with the way it looks.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's part of for me, um, if I'm investing in a brand as a consumer or getting behind it, that's very important to me.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: That I want, you know, the person that's made it and that has put their brain behind it, you have to know that they know what they're talking about, you know, because they've seen it.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so that is, I think, just so so amazing, you know, to have that kind of security as a consumer, you know?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's very important to me.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the way you're like, uh yes, I mean, yeah, I I totally agree with you.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_00: I know, it's just I love the line.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: I really love the line, and I can't wait to see the eight products you're working on in the future.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: But everyone listening, you guys gotta check out uh Dan uh Danusera skin skincare.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_00: It is d-n-u-c-e-ra-a.com.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: I will tag everything in the concept art for this episode.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: But Danuda, it has been such an honor to host you.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for coming on for the show.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much, Actam.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: I hope you can come and get a facial with me too.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, uh, don't tell me that I will show up.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, please, yes, yeah, yeah.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much.
• 27:02
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