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Should the President Get Some Credit When He's Nice? · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: You love these boy bads. Funny funny, funny, funny funny.
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  Speaker 1: Bobby Brown's birthday fifty seven. This does have a boy
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  Speaker 1: band feel. This is solo work from him circa nineteen
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  Speaker 1: eighty eight, but he was of course in new edition.
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  Speaker 1: So you're right, You're right about sort of the root
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  Speaker 1: there of the Bobby Brown and boy that's it. We've
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  Speaker 1: all seen a bunch of documentaries about him and Whitney
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  Speaker 1: Houston and Bobby Christine Angres. Yeah, anyway, so I hope
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  Speaker 1: I wish good, healthy things for the Brown. He's how
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  Speaker 1: seven today.
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  Speaker 2: How weird is it that Whitney Houston's daughter died in
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  Speaker 2: the bathtub like her mother? Did?
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  Speaker 1: I know?
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  Speaker 2: I know? How bizarre is that. It's so strange when
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  Speaker 2: deaths in families. Remember the actress and you'll know her.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember her name, I can see her face.
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  Speaker 2: She's a blonde haired young actress and she died like
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  Speaker 2: a nemo. And the guy that she lived with, I
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  Speaker 2: guess it was her husband died of pneumonia like six
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  Speaker 2: months later. And I'm like, what that has to be
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  Speaker 2: drug related because she had a lot of substance abuse problems.
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  Speaker 2: You know who she is she's kind of Britney Murphy.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of the one of the voices on King
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  Speaker 1: of the Hill, and who also did some stuff. Okay, gotcha, gotcha,
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  Speaker 1: got you?
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  Speaker 2: Got No. I don't think King of the Hill was it.
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  Speaker 2: But she was a young Britney Murphy, I think that
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  Speaker 2: was her name. But she she died of she had.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of SHEI she was Leu n Platter, the
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  Speaker 1: little in King of the Hill. That's what's That's what
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  Speaker 1: I knew her from.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, oh okay, Well and she died right, and
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  Speaker 2: she and and she had it over but it was
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  Speaker 2: but it was pneumonia. And it's like and then he
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  Speaker 2: died of pneumonia. Her husband or boyfriend or whatever. Well
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  Speaker 2: he was in there in the same mansion in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 2: How weird is that? How do they both dive? How
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  Speaker 2: do you dive pneumonia? And they're in their like forties?
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  Speaker 2: So is that a drug related thing?
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  Speaker 1: Do you think having the slightest time you you're supposed
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  Speaker 1: to know everything wrong with you? I do what Brittany
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  Speaker 1: Murphy had done in one animated shows. All right, well,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's go. You want to go to real life
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  Speaker 1: thing because we just got Have you seen Savannah go
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  Speaker 1: stood there, brother and sister.
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  Speaker 2: I just stood there in front of the TV weeping
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  Speaker 2: watching that. You know what I thought about, this is
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  Speaker 2: so strange, and maybe it's because of what we do
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  Speaker 2: for a living. I thought about this glamorous, gazillion dollar,
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  Speaker 2: highly beloved talent of this of the Today Show, and normally,
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  Speaker 2: you know, she is attended to by you know, make
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  Speaker 2: up people and aids, and you know, she's she's she's
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  Speaker 2: spirited into the studio, you know, and she's this big, rich,
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  Speaker 2: famous woman. And there she is on the couch, kind
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  Speaker 2: of jammed in with her sister on her right, her
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  Speaker 2: brother on her left. She looks just laid low. And
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't it doesn't matter your aim, your wealth, your prominence,
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  Speaker 2: when something like this hits you, we're all kind of alike.
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  Speaker 2: It's the great equalizer mark. And you know, and I
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  Speaker 2: was thinking about, I don't want to politicize this awful story.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the president of the United States who she savaged.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she went after him, she'd called him a fascist,
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  Speaker 2: she said a lot of rough things about him. What
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  Speaker 2: does he do? Picks up the phone, says, we love you,
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  Speaker 2: We're doing everything we can to try to help your mom.
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  Speaker 1: Offers law enforcement to be of help in this search.
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  Speaker 2: Just and he's such a mean guy, Mark, he's such
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  Speaker 2: as he's a fascist dictator, and he's mean and he's horrible,
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  Speaker 2: and he's terrible. He's a terrible person. Now when he
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  Speaker 2: demonstrates this kind of grace and this kind of of
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  Speaker 2: of of kindness, they don't say a.
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  Speaker 1: Word about it.
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  Speaker 2: They don't even they don't even I'm sure if they
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  Speaker 2: do say anything about it. That while he's just doing
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  Speaker 2: it because he he's supposed to do it. No, he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't do it. He does what he wants to do,
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  Speaker 2: and he's he's grieving for her, like the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the country is give the guy some credit for crying
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  Speaker 2: out loud. I mean, and again for him, the political stuff,
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  Speaker 2: even when he's attacked by people like Savannah Guthrie, I
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  Speaker 2: think for him, it's kind of blood sport. You know,
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  Speaker 2: all right, we're in the arena, they're coming at me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go like water off a duck's bag. He
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  Speaker 2: right well, by the way, he went right back at her.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when she sat they had to sit down. It
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  Speaker 2: was on NBC, and it was I think it was
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  Speaker 2: prior to maybe a debate or something, but it was
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  Speaker 2: just Savannah. Maybe it was a debate, and he did
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  Speaker 2: the same, He gave her the Megan Kelly treat. But
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  Speaker 2: he's now she's screaming like a lunatic. She's she's un hinge.
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  Speaker 2: And then you know, years later, Hey, Savannah, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna give you the full efforts of all of
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  Speaker 2: the resources we can muster to try to find your
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  Speaker 2: precious mom. Now, Mark, what in the heck how do
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  Speaker 2: you? You said it the other day when I told you
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  Speaker 2: there were there was droplets of blood captured by a camera,
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  Speaker 2: and I said, yes, it was yesterday, right two days ago.
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  Speaker 2: Because you said a crime scene, I.
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  Speaker 1: Said, and I said, the world have they given the
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  Speaker 1: and you said they it was a crime scene? And
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  Speaker 1: then they released it back to the family and I went, okay,
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  Speaker 1: But then they took it back again yesterday then they
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  Speaker 1: put which was showing what stupid. It was stupid with
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  Speaker 1: this woman still out there, you know, in the basement
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  Speaker 1: of a god knows where, being held captive by somebody,
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  Speaker 1: for them to release the home so that reporters could
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  Speaker 1: hover like cockroaches cockroaches don't have he uh no, here's this,
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  Speaker 1: here's that. It was incredible. I do radio shows for
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  Speaker 1: a living, and I knew this. And yet yesterday, as
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  Speaker 1: you're sort of properly introducing, they put the crime scene
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  Speaker 1: tape back up and tried to try to re establish
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  Speaker 1: a crime scene which has now been thoroughly spoiled by
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  Speaker 1: the footfalls of of of hungry reporters.
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  Speaker 2: Well as a as a student, as a as a
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  Speaker 2: dudent who has a master's degree in all things crime shows, documentaries,
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  Speaker 2: as a disciple of forensic files. You can't contaminate the
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  Speaker 2: crime scene like that. I mean, now the kind Now
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  Speaker 2: the crime scene is contaminated because they released it quickly
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  Speaker 2: back to the family. Do you think that has something
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  Speaker 2: to do with the prominence of Savannah or But.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. And if it was about the prominence
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  Speaker 1: and Savannah, why didn't they keep it, you know, pristine
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  Speaker 1: all the while? And now so many things are happening now, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: on day five or whatever this is, people are starting
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  Speaker 1: to bag on local law enforcement. A Katie Pavlich, whom
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  Speaker 1: I love, I saw this nation said this Pema County
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  Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department is just shot full of corruption. Has been
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  Speaker 1: two years like that has been for years.
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  Speaker 2: She said, Hey, there's a history of Pima County sheriff's
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  Speaker 2: and I haven't done a deep dive into that, but
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  Speaker 2: you know that the sheriff that keeps giving the press conferences.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and the guy, bless his heart,
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  Speaker 2: he's weeping one day's and then he's saying, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if she's dead. No, I hope she's
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  Speaker 2: not dead. I mean, he's been kind of all over
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  Speaker 2: the road. But you know, it's Pma County, Arizona. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not Los Angeles or Dallas or New York. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. The whole thing is. It's such a heartbreaking
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  Speaker 2: thing because you keep wondering who in the world abducts
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  Speaker 2: an eighty four year old woman in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the night.
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  Speaker 1: But again, we're just looking for something to cleave to
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  Speaker 1: if the ransom note is real, and we don't hundred
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  Speaker 1: percent know that it is, but it sure kind of
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  Speaker 1: looks like like Emily is treating it as if it is.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess they want proof of life now. They
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  Speaker 1: want proof of life. That means she either is alive
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  Speaker 1: or you know, or I sure, hope, so I'm just sure.
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  Speaker 1: I certainly say that we run.
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  Speaker 2: Out of noun. But according to Savannah, according to that video,
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  Speaker 2: without her medicine, she's not going to be alive and
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  Speaker 2: she and she's an agonizing pain and she needs the
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  Speaker 2: medicine to try to avoid the pain that she lives
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  Speaker 2: with daily. It's just a it's a heartbreaking story. And
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  Speaker 2: to see Savannah Guthrie there, I mean, all three of
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  Speaker 2: them on that couch, they're broken. Savannah is just broken.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's like, how does she go back to work?
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  Speaker 2: And how she ain't working for the next two three weeks.
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  Speaker 1: She would have been in Italy right now as a
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  Speaker 1: key part of NBC's Olympic coverage, which starts tomorrow, and
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  Speaker 1: she is obviously nowhere near that she will make any
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  Speaker 1: part of that.
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  Speaker 2: And none of that matters. I mean, this is her mom,
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  Speaker 2: this is her mama, and it's just a heartbreaking, awful,
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  Speaker 2: awful story speaking of an awful story. And you and I,
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  Speaker 2: I think similarly find similar paths. On X did you
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  Speaker 2: see the video that popped up of the guy interviewing
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  Speaker 2: one of the jurors from the oj Simpson trial.
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  Speaker 1: Every once in a while, it's nice when something you've
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  Speaker 1: always known gets confirmed.
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  Speaker 2: It was almost I mean, you're right. The juror was
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  Speaker 2: a black woman who was on the jury, and she
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  Speaker 2: said with a smile, ninety percent of the jury believe
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  Speaker 2: that OJ was guilty of murdering Nicole and Ron Goldman.
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  Speaker 2: But they acquitted him as a payback to white people.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, because they were upset about Rodney King.
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  Speaker 2: So Rodney King and we're upset about Rodney King. So
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  Speaker 2: it was payback time and that monster. And look, everybody
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  Speaker 2: knows he did it for crying out loud. But do
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  Speaker 2: you remember what it was like? You were on the
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  Speaker 2: air then, right were you?
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  Speaker 1: Ninety five mid days at BAP we watched the verdict
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  Speaker 1: come in. Where were you doing a show? I was
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  Speaker 1: there show. I would have been in all but I
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  Speaker 1: think all but in New York. And I remember being
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  Speaker 1: on the air and how every caller who was black
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  Speaker 1: was ecstatic, every caller who was white was livid. It
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  Speaker 1: was like, I've never seen a racial thing break down
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  Speaker 1: like that. It was only based on your race, and
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  Speaker 1: that's how it was. Okay, except I know what you mean,
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  Speaker 1: but Dot the white collars were not livid because they
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  Speaker 1: were white. The white callers were livid because they had
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  Speaker 1: eyes and a brain and knew that a guilty man
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  Speaker 1: had just gone free. The black collars were thrilled because
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  Speaker 1: they were black.
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  Speaker 2: And were they thrilled because they felt that it was
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  Speaker 2: paid back to the white man?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely? Ops And I love this, I think listen. I
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  Speaker 1: retweeted the clip. I think you did too. This is
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  Speaker 1: very visual. You know, it's at the end the person
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  Speaker 1: asking the question says, ninety said, did you feel that
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  Speaker 1: he was guilty? Yep? Son of the jury felt he
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  Speaker 1: was guilty? Yep? Was that right? And she just goes
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  Speaker 1: she shrug, she shrunk. Yeah, like the what you're gonna do?
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  Speaker 1: Take it? Take it?
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  Speaker 2: And you know what's fascinating is that there will be
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  Speaker 2: barely a peep of this cupboard. You know, the country
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  Speaker 2: was just riveted to that whole story. And now years later,
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  Speaker 2: when an elderly woman who was on the jury admits
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  Speaker 2: that it was true jury nullification, that we just we
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  Speaker 2: just fabricated her for which, by the way, goes back
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  Speaker 2: to Mike's Mike's uh dictum, we ought to have professional
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  Speaker 2: juries in America. Don't let just don't let dopes get
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  Speaker 2: on a jury. Everybody, everybody in the courtroom is paid
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  Speaker 2: and is a professional, and they're trained, except the dumb.
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  Speaker 1: Jurors trained how the eyes. I still will throw it
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  Speaker 1: open to the randomness of human experience before because well
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  Speaker 1: look what it got.
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  Speaker 2: I know any oj oj was all those years he
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  Speaker 2: was playing golf, he was grateful for the randomness of
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  Speaker 2: the jury experience.
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  Speaker 1: Was Any corruption can be any profession can be corrupted.
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  Speaker 1: Be careful of the professional jurors. And I know I
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  Speaker 1: know where your heart is, and I I know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I know, I know by the way I saw
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  Speaker 2: your note about Washington, the Washington Post, and how growing
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  Speaker 2: up as a kid, you know the Washington Post to
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  Speaker 2: be on your driveway.
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  Speaker 1: It's satity, man.
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  Speaker 2: They laid off what like I heard of their whole staff,
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  Speaker 2: just a bloodbath. But I did see something else on
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  Speaker 2: social media. I'm going to track this down. Did you
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  Speaker 2: see what when it was the first day it was
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  Speaker 2: founded in eighteen seventy seven or whatever year it was founded.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know what the mission was of the Washington
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  Speaker 2: Post To protect the Democrat Party.
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  Speaker 1: It's the stated and they came home to that pretty.
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  Speaker 2: They've never waivered. They've never wavered. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 2: absolutely set up to be a Democrat leaning paper and
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  Speaker 2: it said half the states are Democrat, they said, and
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  Speaker 2: we got to preserve the Democratic Party and that's what
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  Speaker 2: our mission is going to be about. And boy, they've
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  Speaker 2: if that's true, done that say a lot, because it's
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  Speaker 2: they've never they've never varied from that.
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  Speaker 1: Nope. And yesterday it featured a ton because they only
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  Speaker 1: got Twitter accounts, a ton of these reporters saying I
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  Speaker 1: just got fired. I just got fired. My heart is broken.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, and you and I are together
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  Speaker 1: on this. We never root for people to get rough.
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  Speaker 1: But the place, the marketplace, had its way with the
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  Speaker 1: Washington Post. And I'm not saying that they've been fair
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  Speaker 1: in balance for the last thirty years. Well, nobody fired,
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  Speaker 1: but it did not help them. It did not help them.
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  Speaker 2: But you're burying the lead. They don't think, they don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's the marketplace. The accusation is that Bezos is
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  Speaker 2: beholden to Trump, and they think that Trump is the
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  Speaker 2: one who's basically got his hand, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And they also think that they are somehow entitled to
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  Speaker 1: a job forever no matter what the marketplace thinks of
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  Speaker 1: them is like one of my favorite tweets yesterday, I
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  Speaker 1: think it was Eric Ericson, who's having a very good month.
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  Speaker 1: He said, do you know how many people were laid
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  Speaker 1: off in America? And yet these this sliver of people
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  Speaker 1: at the Post is supposed to make the earth stop
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  Speaker 1: turning in its orbit?
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  Speaker 2: Please, And if they're good at their jobs, they'll all
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  Speaker 2: get jobs.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw, I'm gonna throw, I'm gonna throw a
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  Speaker 1: word out. There's a gentleman named Patrick's Vtek who got
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  Speaker 1: a job at the Post within the last win. Did
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  Speaker 1: Patrick go over there last year or so? And he
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  Speaker 1: had been at Texas Tribune, also not a conservative publication,
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  Speaker 1: but one of the best, and they covered me like
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  Speaker 1: a blanket. He had excerpts of me and retweeted stuff
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  Speaker 1: that I'd done on the show. Just one of the
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  Speaker 1: best political resort, hundred percent, always there, always throw. And
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  Speaker 1: when we went to the Post, it was like, congratulations, man.
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  Speaker 1: I hope he can bring that openness, that fairness, that
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  Speaker 1: professionalism into that den of snakes. And he did and
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  Speaker 1: he got fired yesterday. Any organization would do well to
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  Speaker 1: put Patrick's Vitek on their staff, and I hope that
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  Speaker 1: he and all the other deserving folks get a new gig.
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  Speaker 2: If any of these folks are fair to you, I
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  Speaker 2: always want to give him some grace. It's like your
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  Speaker 2: your your best friend. I mean that he's lost his
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  Speaker 2: flipping mind from him as much lately. Yeah, he's got you.
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  Speaker 2: He blocked you. You're you better. You ain't doing that
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  Speaker 2: show again. I mean you went right at him. You
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  Speaker 2: went your text. I mean when you shared that text
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  Speaker 2: and what you call where.
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  Speaker 1: You called him? Dude, what are you doing going after
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  Speaker 1: what he Well, you burned that bridge.
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  Speaker 2: He ain't going back to you. Ain't going back to
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  Speaker 2: the News Nation. They won't let you in the restroom.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Katie will call me.
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  Speaker 1: But I heard you, But I heard you were great
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  Speaker 1: on newsbacks yesterday. Always nice they have they always they
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  Speaker 1: pair me with a with a lib and you know
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  Speaker 1: what happens, you know what the liberal personal and I
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  Speaker 1: always do afterwards we text each other and say that
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  Speaker 1: was great. It was a guy named Robert George yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: It was great, good, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Good. And then then you want to becoming a regular
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  Speaker 2: on will came mister TV star, Look at you look
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  Speaker 2: at you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. That's you.
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  Speaker 2: I love you man.
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  Speaker 1: Have a happy Thursday. Go fantastic Thursday. Mike Gallagher ten o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: He will rock on six sixty am, he answered,