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Hour 2: CFB Talk! Can LSU get to 9 wins? Plus we do a DEEP dive into the Louisville & Ole Miss game with Tom Luginbill! · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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Speaker 1: some of you I see like the John CALIPERI drop
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Speaker 1: that we did earlier and and that's why I don't
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Speaker 1: buy anything. If you're if your program are at leg
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Speaker 1: apartment is not winning or not doing what they need
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Speaker 1: to do, that's on the people there. Everybody has the
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Speaker 1: alumni base and the resources to win in the sec everybody.
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Speaker 1: Some people have been either told or they've been led
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Speaker 1: to believe, or they just don't have a winning mentality
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Speaker 1: that they can't do it. Nothing could be further from
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Speaker 1: the truth. And Caliperi is a great example of Arkansas
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Speaker 1: tripping all over their But again, Arkansas could put one
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in their football program, every their roster
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Speaker 1: every year, not missbeat it's shoebox money, guys, and yet
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Speaker 1: they couldn't. They couldn't get going because they didn't have
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Speaker 1: the right people to get anybody going. They didn't have
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Speaker 1: the right people to get the plane off the tarmac
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Speaker 1: and get this thing at thirty five thousand feet. And
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Speaker 1: Cal was hired as their basketball coach and it took
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Speaker 1: him thirty seconds and he had millions, millions, and whatever
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Speaker 1: he wants, he'll get because he's also willing. He doesn't believe,
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Speaker 1: just like Steve Jobs in his heyday or many others.
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Speaker 1: Jerry Seinfeldtz another one, he doesn't. I'm talking about guys
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Speaker 1: that have already had a tremendous amount of success but
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Speaker 1: are still willing to go make the ask or go
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Speaker 1: present the new product. And some people either get to
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Speaker 1: a certain whatever level that is I'm too good for that.
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Speaker 1: But every time Apple had a new product, what happened.
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Speaker 1: We've talked about it on the air. It's still one
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Speaker 1: of the most fascinating things to me. And then I
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Speaker 1: love to incorporate into the show the last twenty years.
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Speaker 1: He put on jeans and a black shirt and his
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Speaker 1: little wire rim glasses and he walked out on a
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Speaker 1: stage and he understood that that could be the most
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Speaker 1: important hour for Apple for the next couple of years,
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Speaker 1: whatever it was they were presenting at the time. And
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Speaker 1: he did it. And then he smoothed vendors from all
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Speaker 1: over because that's what he needed to do to make
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Speaker 1: sure that Apple's product was where they wanted it and
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Speaker 1: needed it. John Caliperry doesn't care who you are or
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Speaker 1: what you are. If you have the means, he wants
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Speaker 1: to talk to you to be involved in the Arkansas
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Speaker 1: Razorback basketball program. He's not above it. He's already been
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Speaker 1: a multiple multiple final fours, made close to two hundred
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Speaker 1: million dollars, and could be on a beach or on
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Speaker 1: a mountain somewhere. He'll make the call this morning if
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Speaker 1: someone calls him and says, I've got a guy. There's
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Speaker 1: an alum in Charleston, South Carolina who just exited a
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Speaker 1: technology company cal and he just made seven hundred million dollars,
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Speaker 1: what's his number? And then he's going to look at
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Speaker 1: his chief of staff and go, will you get the
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Speaker 1: jet ready? Thank you? I just need ten minutes. We
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Speaker 1: will be flying to see him. He's on the phone
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Speaker 1: and they're booking a lunch and he's in Charleston by
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Speaker 1: twelve thirty or one o'clock at snob or high Cotton
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Speaker 1: on the Bay, getting his first gift and not thinking
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Speaker 1: twice about it, probably staying over that night, opening some
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Speaker 1: French Bordeaux and they'll have a private shift at that
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Speaker 1: guy's house in which that guy will pay for it,
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Speaker 1: and feel like when Cal gets back on the plane
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Speaker 1: to fly to Faeble, that he got the greatest deal
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Speaker 1: in the world, no doubt. He got to hang out
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Speaker 1: with John Calipari for twelve, fifteen, eighteen hours, and then
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Speaker 1: Cal goes home with seven figures and a what annual
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Speaker 1: donation of that? It's that simple. Are you willing to do? Dalper?
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Speaker 1: There's extraordinarily wealthy people or successful that are still willing
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Speaker 1: to die for dollars. There's people who haven't even leveled up,
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Speaker 1: but are in certain positions for whatever reason, who aren't
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Speaker 1: willing to dial for dollars. It's it's simple. I mean,
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Speaker 1: so I say it's it's not as hard as people
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Speaker 1: make it out to be. But yes, it does take
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Speaker 1: work and cultivating. But it takes the right people. And
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Speaker 1: that's why Arkansas Basketball. I'm not saying they're gonna I
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Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna happen once you get to March Madness,
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Speaker 1: but Cow's gonna have all the assets and resources that
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Speaker 1: he needs. Oh yeah, and that's an indictment on what
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Speaker 1: they were doing prior to his arrival. Yeah, same thing
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Speaker 1: with Brian O'Connor Atsissippi State. He's gonna have what he
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Speaker 1: needs to have because he's gonna do whatever he needs
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Speaker 1: to do whatever is necessary to get what he wants
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Speaker 1: to get where he wants to go, and people can
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Speaker 1: either help him or get out of his way. And
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Speaker 1: that is the mentality that it takes to win. Lane
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Speaker 1: did the same thing four years ago and maybe five now.
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Speaker 1: Lane saw the deal, walked in Keef's office and other
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Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do now. Keith Carter and Glenn
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Speaker 1: Boyce were smart enough to go, let's ride right. Oh
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Speaker 1: you need a bus, No, No, I need this kind
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Speaker 1: of bus. We will get Oh, you need a plane.
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Speaker 1: I need this kind of plane to get everybody on
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Speaker 1: it so that we can fly to wins and possible championships.
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Speaker 1: And that is the way it's done. Some people are
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Speaker 1: either lazy or don't have the get it piece of
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Speaker 1: I can't remember what he did. It could have been Ribs,
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Speaker 1: I ran into somebody who won one of our food
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Speaker 3: Sure was?
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Speaker 1: Well, that's awesome.
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Speaker 1: Okay, good, good. Uh so he won one of our
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Speaker 1: is part of community engagement outreach. Yeah, and investment in
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Speaker 1: the community by competing in the out of bounds food competitions.
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Speaker 3: It's so smart.
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Speaker 1: It's just smart. I mean, that's that's right. Whoever did
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Speaker 1: those burn ends less it may have been. They were
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Speaker 1: so good it was insane. Yeah, when burn INDs are done,
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Speaker 1: and the bartender that had just moved from Vegas to
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Speaker 1: hear and he was telling me he just got here
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and some people were kind
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Speaker 1: of July weekend, right when he wasn't working. And he said,
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Speaker 1: these people that I got to know just in the
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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, which is what we should do
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Speaker 1: when people move, They cooked a brisket nice and he
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Speaker 1: said I never had anything like. I said, buddy, that
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Speaker 1: this group around here when it comes to briskets and
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Speaker 1: butts and stuff like rip, it's it's the best food
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Speaker 1: that he went it was incredible. I went, yeah, and
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Speaker 1: that reminded me of burn INDs and you talking about
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Speaker 1: that Jackson, because listening to him, he said, I'm from
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Speaker 1: the Northeast, but I've been in Vegas. And my first
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Speaker 1: comment to him was, Hey, I like Vegas, but the
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Speaker 1: quality of life down here is going to be much
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Speaker 1: better for you. And he was like, I can already tell.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, man, you've got a chance to
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Speaker 1: get settled down here and have a really good time
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Speaker 1: and quality of life and so on. And you could
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Speaker 1: tell that he was excited about the move. But I
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Speaker 1: love it when someone's only been on the ground for
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Speaker 1: I think less than three weeks and somebody cooks him
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Speaker 1: a brisket over the or he's at a cookout with
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Speaker 1: the brisket over the Oh, this is what it was.
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Speaker 1: This is funny as hell because we had another We
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Speaker 1: had another guy come on the show during our big
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Speaker 1: brisket ribs, but run of that was funny food competitions
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Speaker 1: that talked about. It was a he measured he uh,
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Speaker 1: his time on his brisket was around a case of beer. Oh,
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Speaker 1: he knew when the case of beer was done. He
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Speaker 1: said that the group that he was with, this guy
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Speaker 1: from Vegas who's now bartending at Coach Chop House. This
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Speaker 1: guy from Vegas said, that's what the guy told me.
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Speaker 1: He was like, when this case beers, when we're done
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Speaker 1: with this case of beer, the brisket will be done.
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Speaker 3: I wish I can remember who said that that was gold.
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Speaker 1: I know, I wish I would. I should have flagged
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Speaker 1: it and and cut it out and it could be
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Speaker 1: one of our drops. But and you know, I haven't
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Speaker 1: had somebody's Yeah, I haven't had a brisket from somebody
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Speaker 1: smoking it in a while. I gotta get I gotta
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Speaker 1: get connected with someone so that I can, because there's
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Speaker 1: nothing like just pulling it off right. Just and you
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Speaker 1: got an ice cold Budweiser.
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Speaker 3: Come on, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean, I'm talking ice cold Budweiser in one hand and
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Speaker 1: the brisket has just come off the smoker and you're
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Speaker 1: just take I'll just take a piece. I'm in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that piece turns into twenty.
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Speaker 1: No doubt. I can sit there for thirty minutes and
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Speaker 1: uh and get into that, and then you can make
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Speaker 1: tacos and sliders and everything else you want to do.
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Speaker 3: I think that time Less brought that burning. I think
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Speaker 3: that might have been the first burn inder I ever had.
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Speaker 2: It.
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Speaker 1: I think it was for me.
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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was, because then I'll try to
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Speaker 3: go on a spree of grabbing him because I was like, man,
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Speaker 3: this isiculously good. I know it was. That was phenomenal.
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Speaker 3: He can good.
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Speaker 1: I think Louisville Cardinal Football and Jeff Brohm. That's an
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Speaker 1: intriguing you know, that's a big game Week one, Louisville
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Speaker 1: Ole Miss neutral field in Nashville and Pete Golding's debut
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Speaker 1: in the regular season against Brom. Golding has the advantage
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Speaker 1: as far as the roster and the quarterback, and Louisville
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Speaker 1: has the advantage as far as the head coach. And
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Speaker 1: it's on a neutral field. I expect Old Miss to
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Speaker 1: have more people there, uh because they're a football school
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Speaker 1: and Louisville likes it, but they're a basketball school. But
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Speaker 1: Brom's done a good job. We're streaming live on the
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Speaker 1: gonna be talking to you about for several weeks now
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Speaker 1: that it is officially football season. Ole Miss and Louisville
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Speaker 1: neutral field in Nashville. I think it's spicy. It's got
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Speaker 1: a lot going on here with Pete Golding's debut in
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Speaker 1: the regular season. Brom's done a good job at Western
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Speaker 1: Kentucky and Purdue and Louisville and uh, but Louisville is
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Speaker 1: break So here's the way I frame it up, just
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Speaker 1: real quick. Ole Miss has the advantage as far as
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Speaker 1: roster and quarterback. Louisville has the advantage as far as
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Speaker 1: head coach in Brom, because he's done a great job
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Speaker 1: everywhere he's been. But you sent me an interesting text
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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. Louisville will roll out Lincoln
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Speaker 1: con Holts from an Ohio State transfer or this guy
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Speaker 1: from from West Georgia who actually started there and played.
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Speaker 1: Con Holts doesn't have any PT under his belt, so
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Speaker 1: he could be going against a Pete Golding defense. Since
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Speaker 1: we think it's gonna be pretty damn good at minimum
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Speaker 1: in game one. What can you tell me about Lincoln
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Speaker 1: con Holts when we as we march into this game, Luke's.
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Speaker 4: So, I actually had the Cotton Bowl between Ohio State
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Speaker 4: and Missouri a couple of years ago. If you recall,
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Speaker 4: comiccor decided to go into the transfer portal, Ohio State
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Speaker 4: went with Devin Brown. Devin Brown gets hurt in that
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Speaker 4: game and Lincoln Keenholts has to play as a freshman,
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Speaker 4: and you know, at that time, obviously you're playing against
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Speaker 4: the top fifteen ranked, top ten ranked team. I don't
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Speaker 4: know where Missouri was at that time, and Missouri ended
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Speaker 4: up winning the game, but it was just it was
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Speaker 4: an overwhelming experience for the young guy. And so, you know,
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Speaker 4: some background on him, the kid out of South Dakota,
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Speaker 4: and he was a what I would label as one
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Speaker 4: of those guys that was a really good athlete that
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Speaker 4: played quarterback. But he's one of those players from a
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Speaker 4: recruiting perspective, he was intriguing because when you watched him,
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Speaker 4: you're like, Okay, this guy could play more than one position.
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Speaker 4: Let's try to develop him at quarterback and then see
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Speaker 4: how that plays out, and so you know, he stayed
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Speaker 4: competed there a little bit and then you know, put
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Speaker 4: himself on the open market. What I found to be
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Speaker 4: so intriguing is, you know, Jeff Brohm was I think,
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Speaker 4: really diligent and smart with the three transfer portal guys
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Speaker 4: that he took at Louisville, starting with Jack Plummer right
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Speaker 4: then it went to Tyler Schotts, then it went to
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Speaker 4: Miller Moss. Now the common denominator of all three of
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Speaker 4: those guys is that they had played a ton of football.
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Speaker 4: You know, they had been around and they'd seen the
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Speaker 4: live bullets flying by. And so now Jeff Broms could
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Speaker 4: try to completely go another direction and it's kind of
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Speaker 4: going into developmental mode where he might be playing with
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Speaker 4: one or two different quarters that really haven't played any
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Speaker 4: significant football, which is a total deviation from his process
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Speaker 4: to this point. And I think if you've seen anything
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Speaker 4: in the transfer portable the last three to five years,
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Speaker 4: is there is significant value in experience, especially early on
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Speaker 4: when you got to take on an opponent like Old
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Speaker 4: Miss and they're going to have an experienced guy and
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Speaker 4: you're not. So I'm going to be very intrigued to
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Speaker 4: see how this thing plays out.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so Lincoln keen Holts for our listeners, especially our
23:27
Speaker 1: Ole Miss fans, transfer from Ohio State. He may be
23:31
Speaker 1: the guy, but I did read a couple of articles
23:34
Speaker 1: yesterday that Davin Widner from West Georgia actually had a
23:38
Speaker 1: better spring game than him, and he actually played all
23:41
Speaker 1: those games at West Georgia last year. Even though keen
23:44
Speaker 1: Holtz is the bigger name. We'll kind of see what
23:47
Speaker 1: plays out. Luke's let's stay on Louisville and Old Miss
23:51
Speaker 1: and anything else you can mine on Keenoltz as we
23:54
Speaker 1: go back and forth. Please drop it. But Brom, he's
23:58
Speaker 1: intriguing to me because he did a hell of a
24:03
Speaker 1: job at Western Kentucky. He was able to go into
24:06
Speaker 1: the hell hole of Purdue and get out. A lot
24:09
Speaker 1: of times you just go to get paid, which Bury
24:11
Speaker 1: Otam may be doing, and I get that too, But
24:15
Speaker 1: he was able to go to Purdue and win his
24:17
Speaker 1: way out and get to his alma mater. And I
24:19
Speaker 1: think he's told some people know because it is his
24:23
Speaker 1: alma mater. Although they're not a football school. Size it
24:27
Speaker 1: up for me. I think Jeff Brohm is a damn
24:29
Speaker 1: good football coach.
24:30
Speaker 4: How do you see it, Lukes, He is a really
24:32
Speaker 4: good football coach. And I think the thing that people
24:34
Speaker 4: don't realize about the Louisville job is while everybody's in
24:38
Speaker 4: the red right now in the current state of college athletics,
24:43
Speaker 4: Louisville will invest in football. Louisville got it fantastic football operations, facility,
24:48
Speaker 4: an indoor facility, They've done renovations for the stadium multiple
24:52
Speaker 4: occasions over the last fifteen years. It's a good job.
24:55
Speaker 4: The downside of the job is you don't have in
24:59
Speaker 4: state talent from a high school recruiting perspective to just
25:03
Speaker 4: build your roster without having a cross border. They've got
25:06
Speaker 4: to go into other people's backyard. But now with the
25:08
Speaker 4: transfer portal, you know that that's not as significant as
25:11
Speaker 4: as it once was. If you recall back when Charlie
25:13
Speaker 4: Strong was the coach there, you know, all of those
25:16
Speaker 4: guys that they had, particularly on offense, were from South Florida,
25:19
Speaker 4: all right, and so including Teddy Bridgewater, and so I
25:24
Speaker 4: think that he's really happy there because from a conference
25:27
Speaker 4: affiliation standpoint, they can compete. They've competed from the moment
25:30
Speaker 4: they joined it. You know, they haven't been able to
25:33
Speaker 4: get into that championship level, you know, compete to be
25:38
Speaker 4: in the championship game consistently yet. But I do think
25:43
Speaker 4: it's the job that has some patience, which is a
25:45
Speaker 4: good thing, and it's a job that does have resources,
25:49
Speaker 4: even though you know it's largely considered a basketball school.
25:55
Speaker 1: Are they now in this new you mentioned the transfer
25:58
Speaker 1: port they finished in the top ten, so so he's
26:02
Speaker 1: you're right there. They gave Brohm and his staff money
26:07
Speaker 1: Luke's to go shop for players because you don't ever
26:11
Speaker 1: know how good they'll be. But they were able to
26:14
Speaker 1: land some players with some pretty good pedigrees and finish
26:18
Speaker 1: in the top ten in the in the portal rankings.
26:22
Speaker 1: Do you see him as a guy that because that's
26:25
Speaker 1: his alma mater, he's willing to stay there for a while.
26:30
Speaker 4: I think, you know, if he continues to win and
26:34
Speaker 4: and and maybe even elevated, you know further, then there's
26:39
Speaker 4: gonna be some some places I think that would would
26:42
Speaker 4: be knocking on the door where if you're if you're
26:46
Speaker 4: looking at it from a national competitive standpoint, you'd have
26:51
Speaker 4: to consider overtures. If a job comes around where you
26:56
Speaker 4: know your resources and your funding, particularly on the NIL
26:59
Speaker 4: side administratively, where they're just one all in on football.
27:04
Speaker 4: And that's not to say that Louisville's not, but there's
27:06
Speaker 4: gonna be some jobs that would be more attractive from
27:08
Speaker 4: that regard. Then I think you have you have to listen. Now.
27:12
Speaker 4: I think he needs to get in the a SEC
27:14
Speaker 4: Championship game. I think he needs to put together some
27:16
Speaker 4: ten plus win seasons to really uh become that guy
27:22
Speaker 4: that somebody would target. But I just think you have
27:25
Speaker 4: to in today's climate, you have to always be looking
27:29
Speaker 4: at that because the expectation, right is that, Okay, well
27:33
Speaker 4: we want to compete for a college football playoffs berth. Well,
27:36
Speaker 4: in order to do that, you have to have everything
27:38
Speaker 4: in your back pocket to be able to do that.
27:41
Speaker 4: And you know there are other jobs out there, you know,
27:44
Speaker 4: Like I look at the Penn State job in Matt Campbell,
27:47
Speaker 4: and you know, I think Jeff Brown would have been, oh,
27:50
Speaker 4: sorry about that guy, that's my dog.
27:52
Speaker 1: Somebody got excited about Penn State. I like that. I
27:57
Speaker 1: love it. Sorry, man, No, you're good. Out of bounds.
28:05
Speaker 1: ESPN one oh five nine The Zone. Tom Lougan Bill
28:08
Speaker 1: says Penn State and his dogs get all fired up,
28:11
Speaker 1: so they like something about Penn State this year.
28:13
Speaker 5: Luke's go ahead, Yeah, yeah, I just I think that's,
28:16
Speaker 5: you know, that's the job that would be kind of
28:18
Speaker 5: in line with the conversation that we're having, right is Okay,
28:22
Speaker 5: where where would.
28:23
Speaker 4: The resources be that could get you to be a
28:26
Speaker 4: consistent college football playoff contender each and every year? And
28:29
Speaker 4: I think it's those the jobs It would you know,
28:33
Speaker 4: probably lure a guy like Jeff Brohm to consider leaving.
28:36
Speaker 4: But other than that, I think he's got a great
28:38
Speaker 4: situation there.
28:40
Speaker 1: All Right, we were talking Ole Miss and Louisville. Uh
28:44
Speaker 1: Ole Miss could be facing Lincoln Keenholtz, who's a transfer
28:49
Speaker 1: from Ohio State and hasn't really ever played at the
28:52
Speaker 1: college level. That bodes well for Old Miss. Luke's what
28:56
Speaker 1: did you think about the way I framed it up.
28:58
Speaker 1: I look at it like old has the advantage as
29:01
Speaker 1: far as roster, They have the advantage as far as quarterback,
29:05
Speaker 1: and not that Golding's not a good coach, but Louisville
29:08
Speaker 1: has the advantage as far as head coach because brom
29:11
Speaker 1: has over ten years of head coaching experience at Western
29:14
Speaker 1: Kentucky Purdue and Louisville and has a proven track record
29:19
Speaker 1: with all three. What do you think about the way
29:22
Speaker 1: I framed up that game.
29:23
Speaker 4: No, I think that's fair. I think it's ballad. I
29:26
Speaker 4: also think that they will likely play the West Georgia
29:28
Speaker 4: kid because he's played and he's played well, He's played
29:32
Speaker 4: at a high level. It gives them a better chance
29:36
Speaker 4: than the opener to have somebody that has has been
29:41
Speaker 4: in gains and seen significant snaps. You know, I think
29:45
Speaker 4: the thing about Jeff Brom if you've watched Louisville is
29:47
Speaker 4: you know they're They're always creative on offense. They are
29:51
Speaker 4: they are going to be well coached, They will be
29:54
Speaker 4: well prepared. Old Miss will probably top to bottom have
29:59
Speaker 4: better play, which I would take that over anything else. Yes,
30:03
Speaker 4: but the quarterback position for for ale Miss gives them,
30:06
Speaker 4: I think, distinct advantages over gain preparation from the other
30:12
Speaker 4: head coach.
30:13
Speaker 1: How do you see Louisville in the your dialt in
30:16
Speaker 1: the ACC? You started at quarterback in the ACC? Where
30:20
Speaker 1: do you put Louisville? Are they in your tier two?
30:24
Speaker 1: Kind of in the a CEC right now, Luke's I think.
30:28
Speaker 4: That their tier two probably blended Tier one. You know,
30:32
Speaker 4: they've kind of been in the top five pack over
30:35
Speaker 4: the last couple of years. You know, when when you consider, okay,
30:40
Speaker 4: you know a team like Clemson, but then you in
30:43
Speaker 4: a team like Miami. I mean, obviously they haven't been
30:46
Speaker 4: in that class, but they've been kind of similar to
30:48
Speaker 4: what SMU has become in a short period of time
30:51
Speaker 4: in that conference. But I would say that they've gone
30:53
Speaker 4: past Florida State and becoming more stable and more productive
30:59
Speaker 4: and more reliable from an on field product each and
31:03
Speaker 4: every week. And I think that, you know, they're probably
31:05
Speaker 4: in that same group with MC State and SMU, as
31:09
Speaker 4: I mentioned, I don't think I think they're they're further
31:12
Speaker 4: along than Virginia and North Carolina. Probably similar in terms
31:17
Speaker 4: of onfield production to what Duke has been over the
31:20
Speaker 4: last you know, at least since Mike Elko got there
31:23
Speaker 4: and then departed now under Manny Diaz. So now you're
31:26
Speaker 4: probably putting them in the top five or sixteen.
31:29
Speaker 1: Okay, Tom Louganville on ESPN one oh five downe the
31:35
Speaker 1: zone driven by your next gmccierra truck at Fowler gmc pearl,
31:40
Speaker 1: Brandon David Sweeney, I know, I love asking you this
31:45
Speaker 1: periodically because I know, I mean, no one in college
31:50
Speaker 1: football was more locked into Clemson for a ten year
31:53
Speaker 1: run like you were because of where you live, being
31:57
Speaker 1: a national college football guy all that, and when when
32:00
Speaker 1: when Benibles and Scott and Elliott and all those guys
32:04
Speaker 1: were going through and they were winning all that, you
32:06
Speaker 1: were right there. Do you think Dabo can ever bottle
32:14
Speaker 1: the magic again at Clemson or he's already a Hall
32:20
Speaker 1: of Fame coach but his best is in the rearview mirror.
32:25
Speaker 4: Well, I think they've got access to the same type
32:27
Speaker 4: of player that they've always had access to. The landscape
32:30
Speaker 4: has chanced, They've fought it right, they've pushed back, they
32:33
Speaker 4: haven't kind of fallen in line, and really, in my opinion,
32:37
Speaker 4: truly accepted, Okay, this is the new world order, and
32:40
Speaker 4: if we don't get in, you know, we're gonna struggle
32:44
Speaker 4: to get back to that pinnacle. I do think there's
32:46
Speaker 4: some validity in that high school recruiting. I don't think
32:50
Speaker 4: has really shifted for them. I think they've done a
32:52
Speaker 4: great job there. Their player development has always been very strong.
32:55
Speaker 4: Their player retention has for the most part, been very strong.
33:00
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you if I just oversimplified
33:03
Speaker 4: it here, they've missed on quarterbacks back to back, and
33:07
Speaker 4: remember they had like a nine year run between Taj Boyd,
33:13
Speaker 4: Deshaun Watson, you could even throw Kelly Bryant in there,
33:17
Speaker 4: and then of course Trevor Lawrence where they nailed the
33:21
Speaker 4: quarterback position. And then they flopped big on DJ Luiangola.
33:26
Speaker 4: And I think there were very mixed results with Kate Klubnick,
33:30
Speaker 4: who at times looked like he's going to be a
33:32
Speaker 4: pretty good player, but could never sustain it, could never
33:35
Speaker 4: elevate it. And I think that has set them back
33:39
Speaker 4: as much as anything else. And what's going to be interesting.
33:42
Speaker 4: I think all eyes are going to be on Chris
33:43
Speaker 4: Pazina because Clemson chose not to go in the transfer
33:48
Speaker 4: portal and supplement the quarterback room. Now they bring Chad
33:51
Speaker 4: Morris back from an offensive coordinator perspective, I think that
33:53
Speaker 4: will be a positive. He In Dabbo I think have
33:56
Speaker 4: always been on the same page, but they're on a ride.
34:00
Speaker 4: Chris is in a based off of a very small
34:03
Speaker 4: sample size last year, but they must have saw something
34:05
Speaker 4: that he really liked that they thought it could be
34:08
Speaker 4: the answer for him, But that position, more than anything else,
34:11
Speaker 4: is I think been directly related to what you know,
34:15
Speaker 4: their slit has been on the field.
34:17
Speaker 1: Tom Lougan Bill with the ESPN joining us on the
34:20
Speaker 1: out of bound shift is Let's go back to Trinidad Chambliss.
34:24
Speaker 1: Is he by far and away the best decision maker
34:28
Speaker 1: at quarterback in the SEC.
34:32
Speaker 4: I think he's in the discussion. I would say that
34:35
Speaker 4: arch Manning is certainly in the discussion when it comes
34:38
Speaker 4: to just pure decision making. I think that Trinidad, as
34:43
Speaker 4: far as decision making, is probably proven to be more
34:48
Speaker 4: consistent than John Mattier at Oklahoma. You know, Gunner Stockton
34:53
Speaker 4: has been a guy that's been uber consistent for Georgia.
34:56
Speaker 4: Probably doesn't get the credit he's due until we see
34:59
Speaker 4: Leonora Stellar take the game to the next level, which
35:01
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are expecting will happen
35:03
Speaker 4: this fall. Whether that's true or not, I don't know.
35:06
Speaker 4: He's been more productive and consistent than Leonora's sellers, so
35:10
Speaker 4: I think I think it's fair to make that assessment.
35:13
Speaker 4: You know, we don't know yet with Auburn and USF
35:16
Speaker 4: transfer Byron Brown, although he's been super productive when he
35:19
Speaker 4: was he was playing for the Bulls, and obviously he's
35:22
Speaker 4: got a great relationship with his head coach, So there's
35:24
Speaker 4: gonna be some continuity there. Well, we don't know yet
35:27
Speaker 4: on Alabama. As I've said to you before with LSU
35:30
Speaker 4: and Lane Kiffin, it's not about Sam Levitt's ability. It's
35:33
Speaker 4: about Sam Levitt's ability to stay healthy. Right, That's going
35:37
Speaker 4: to be something we got to keep a real close
35:39
Speaker 4: eye on. So I think Trinidad Chambliss is probably the
35:43
Speaker 4: most complete player when it comes to having to defend
35:47
Speaker 4: his arm and his legs. When it comes to decisions,
35:51
Speaker 4: he's really good at being disciplined from within the pocket
35:54
Speaker 4: and not taken off unless he has to. I think
35:57
Speaker 4: that's part of the decision making. It's not just progressions,
36:00
Speaker 4: passing game reads, known when to flash, knowing when to
36:03
Speaker 4: hang in there, knowing when the play is broken down.
36:05
Speaker 4: You've got to you know, you've got a playoff platform. Now,
36:08
Speaker 4: that's probably where he has an advantage over others.
36:12
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go back to what you hit on earlier
36:15
Speaker 1: with Jeff Brohm and Louisville and him going with an
36:18
Speaker 1: inexperienced QB. It looks like Lane is absolutely not going
36:22
Speaker 1: to do that in this new way, this of college football.
36:27
Speaker 1: He's going to go and get somebody who's got big
36:30
Speaker 1: time reps underneath his belt. How much risk is Kaitlin
36:33
Speaker 1: de Boor and Alabama taken by kind of waiting on
36:37
Speaker 1: and rolling out Keelan Russell and or Austin Mack, neither
36:41
Speaker 1: who had played. I know Austin has waited, has bided
36:45
Speaker 1: his time, but still Bama wants to win now and
36:49
Speaker 1: getting punked by Indiana is not what they want, even
36:51
Speaker 1: though they got into the second round of the College
36:53
Speaker 1: football playoffs. How much risk is that for Kaylin to
36:56
Speaker 1: Boor in Alabama?
36:57
Speaker 4: Luke's I actually think it's minimal. And I say that
37:01
Speaker 4: because I don't think it was a great transfer portal
37:04
Speaker 4: quarterback class top to bottom. Okay, And and you know,
37:08
Speaker 4: when you've got guys like Keilan Russell, who they've invested
37:11
Speaker 4: in and developed and is really really talented, more talented
37:15
Speaker 4: than Austin Mack and a little bit more dynamic, I think.
37:18
Speaker 4: But Austin Mack too has been in that system, He's
37:20
Speaker 4: been in that program. They know what they're going to
37:21
Speaker 4: get out of him. I think you're weighing risk by saying, Okay,
37:25
Speaker 4: do we go out and get an unknown who has
37:27
Speaker 4: or has not played, especially if we're not in love
37:30
Speaker 4: with anybody. But we got these two guys here that
37:32
Speaker 4: we know an awful lot about, that we think are
37:33
Speaker 4: talented and can take the next step. I also think
37:38
Speaker 4: that retooling the offensive line, getting new leadership from a
37:42
Speaker 4: from a coaching perspective, that's going to play a big
37:44
Speaker 4: role for Alabama too. They can't they can't do what
37:47
Speaker 4: they did last year where they go into every single
37:49
Speaker 4: game and everybody in the stadium knows that they can't
37:51
Speaker 4: run the football, right, That's just that. That's not now
37:54
Speaker 4: When you have a guy like Ty Simpson that could,
37:56
Speaker 4: they could compensate for that because he was really really good,
37:59
Speaker 4: and I would argue really really good considering that he
38:04
Speaker 4: kind of had to do it all on his own.
38:07
Speaker 4: You know, that was kind of an eraser for them.
38:09
Speaker 4: But with limited experience, you may not necessarily have that.
38:12
Speaker 4: So the run game I think is every bit as
38:16
Speaker 4: pivotal to the development of those quarterbacks and how fast
38:19
Speaker 4: they come along is anything else.
38:21
Speaker 1: Okay, having said that, like we have com I've only
38:28
Speaker 1: got a minute. We have confidence in Georgia, LSU, maybe Texas,
38:33
Speaker 1: possibly Old Miss. Do you think Alabama can be there
38:36
Speaker 1: in the hunt in the end in mid to late
38:38
Speaker 1: November with one of those two quarterbacks.
38:42
Speaker 4: Absolutely, because I think they're loaded on defense. They're going
38:47
Speaker 4: to be really good on that side of the football.
38:48
Speaker 4: They've got targets, they've got running back. I mean, the
38:52
Speaker 4: quarterback and the offensive line is going to be is
38:55
Speaker 4: going to be the question that needs to be answered,
38:58
Speaker 4: and I don't think necessary because of how good they're
39:01
Speaker 4: going to be on defense. If the quarterback has to
39:02
Speaker 4: be a superhero, I think the quarterback has to not
39:05
Speaker 4: screw it up right, just take the plays that are
39:08
Speaker 4: there to be made, make the routine plays routinely, and
39:11
Speaker 4: as you grow and blossom, you put more on that
39:13
Speaker 4: quarterback's plate, and then you start to ask more of
39:16
Speaker 4: them as he becomes more and more comfortable. But they've
39:19
Speaker 4: got components around the quarterback in my opinion, that will
39:23
Speaker 4: allow them to work through the development of the quarterback
39:28
Speaker 4: because they're gonna be They're gonna be talented and deep
39:30
Speaker 4: around them.
39:31
Speaker 1: Okay, I know this is ridiculous to say, but I
39:36
Speaker 1: love just saying it. Bama is the sleeper question Mark
39:40
Speaker 1: love it. Okay, I had somebody else's tied into the
39:45
Speaker 1: Bama program that said what you just said. They are
39:48
Speaker 1: going to be really good on defense and there's no
39:51
Speaker 1: doubt that that can carry you. Tom Lougan Bill, have
39:54
Speaker 1: a great weekend, my man. We'll talk next week.
39:56
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