Latest / The World of Phil Hendrie / Episode #3951 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive July 2000
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to another Radio Archive Hour here from the Radio
- 0:02Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Phil Henry Show and philhenryshow.com.
- 0:06Speaker 2: R.C.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Collins, one of the godlike characters we had on the show, 16, 17,
- 0:11Speaker 1: 18 years old, this punk. He had a, I don't know,
- 0:13Speaker 1: some kind of a kidney problem. He had a testicular cancer,
- 0:17Speaker 1: but he wound up in a military academy after going
- 0:20Speaker 1: goth and irritating the.
- 0:22Speaker 3: Hell out of everybody. R.C.
- 0:24Speaker 1: Wanted to kick everybody's ass. And then finally he got
- 0:26Speaker 1: it together, wanted to go to Iraq. and then came
- 0:28Speaker 1: out of all of that and went to work with
- 0:30Speaker 1: his dad up in San Francisco in some kind.
- 0:32Speaker 3: Of a car parts business.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 0:34Speaker 3: But here is R.C.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Collins in his glory as he talks about the 10-year
- 0:39Speaker 1: anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act. He calls himself handy-capable,
- 0:43Speaker 1: and that means he can get discounts on movie tickets,
- 0:46Speaker 1: operate commercial vehicles, and smoke cigarettes.
- 0:49Speaker 4: Joining us is a 16-year-old Chatsworth High student, R.C. Collins,
- 0:52Speaker 4: who suffers from a disability. And he is joining us
- 0:55Speaker 4: from his home in Chatsworth this afternoon to talk about
- 0:57Speaker 4: about the American with Disabilities Act and what that's meant
- 1:01Speaker 4: to millions of Americans.
- 1:03Speaker 3: And, R.C., you are handicapped?
- 1:06Speaker 2: Well, Phil, it's interesting that you put it that way
- 1:10Speaker 2: because my mom says that I'm not handicapped, I'm handicapable.
- 1:16Speaker 2: And we really feel that that's the best way to
- 1:19Speaker 2: describe the millions and millions of Americans... who are handicapable,
- 1:26Speaker 2: not handicapped.
- 1:27Speaker 3: All right, handicapable, but still, you are disabled, correct?
- 1:33Speaker 2: Yes, we are disabled, but a lot of us are
- 1:38Speaker 2: disabled in different ways. You need to understand, Phil, that
- 1:41Speaker 2: there are millions of Americans that are in wheelchairs. Others
- 1:45Speaker 2: are disabled because they're sight-impaired, hearing-impaired, speech-impaired, etc., There's a
- 1:53Speaker 2: potpourri of disabled people. But we're really here today, Phil,
- 1:58Speaker 2: to celebrate and to thank President Bush for 10 years
- 2:05Speaker 2: of helping Americans with disabilities through this particular act.
- 2:11Speaker 4: What are the things that this act has enabled people
- 2:14Speaker 4: who are handy capable, if you will, or handy capped
- 2:18Speaker 4: to do?
- 2:19Speaker 2: Well, there are so many things that have been opened
- 2:21Speaker 2: up to us We get half off at movie theaters,
- 2:25Speaker 2: so that enables us to have access to really good
- 2:28Speaker 2: movies as well as handy, capable access seating. At a
- 2:34Speaker 2: lot of amusement parks, we get to go to the
- 2:36Speaker 2: front of the line, and you can, you know, park
- 2:42Speaker 2: when you get there where you want to. If you
- 2:45Speaker 2: go to a mall when it's really hot, and you're
- 2:49Speaker 2: driving around for 30 minutes looking for a place to park,
- 2:53Speaker 2: and right up near the door you see six or
- 2:55Speaker 2: seven or even eight empty spaces that are reserved for
- 3:00Speaker 2: handicapped people, you can thank George Bush for that and
- 3:04Speaker 2: the Americans with Disabilities Act. It allows me to take
- 3:09Speaker 2: my time, mosey over to the mall when I feel
- 3:12Speaker 2: like it, look around for something to wear before I
- 3:17Speaker 2: go over there, Let's drive very slowly because I know
- 3:23Speaker 2: no matter what, Phil, I'll have a place to park
- 3:26Speaker 2: while you're driving around for 45 minutes in 110-degree heat.
- 3:32Speaker 4: Well, okay, and it does get hot out there, and
- 3:35Speaker 4: I have seen lots and lots of people parking in
- 3:38Speaker 4: handicapped spots because they need that parking. and obviously that's
- 3:42Speaker 4: a big, big no-no. In fact, you see a lot
- 3:44Speaker 4: of people doing that. What are your rights when you
- 3:46Speaker 4: come up to a handicapped parking space and there's someone
- 3:49Speaker 4: parked there?
- 3:50Speaker 2: The American with Disabilities Act enables me to go into
- 3:56Speaker 2: the car and disengage the emergency brake if I'm capable
- 4:00Speaker 2: of doing that and rolling the car out of the
- 4:03Speaker 2: place that it's in.
- 4:04Speaker 3: It does?
- 4:05Speaker 2: Yes, it does. I'm also enabled, according to the American
- 4:09Speaker 2: with Disabilities Act, to crawl under the car and fool
- 4:13Speaker 2: around with the linkage so that I can pull it
- 4:15Speaker 2: out of gear if I have to. In fact, I
- 4:18Speaker 2: did that with a Jaguar about two weeks ago.
- 4:21Speaker 3: Well, was this a car, in other words?
- 4:23Speaker 4: What I'm saying is it was a car that was
- 4:25Speaker 4: parked in a handicapped space?
- 4:27Speaker 2: Yes, it was.
- 4:28Speaker 4: And as a handicapped or handy-capable person, you have the
- 4:32Speaker 4: legal right to crawl under that car, disengage the linkage,
- 4:36Speaker 4: and take it out of gear?
- 4:37Speaker 2: Roll it out of there, that's right. I did that
- 4:40Speaker 2: with a brand-new Jaguar at XJR. And I got to
- 4:44Speaker 2: tell you something. When the guy who owned the car
- 4:47Speaker 2: came out of the mall, he'd like to have a conniption.
- 4:51Speaker 2: I thought this guy was going to crap, because there
- 4:55Speaker 2: was his car rolled out and sitting in the middle
- 4:59Speaker 2: of the parking lot. while my car had been placed
- 5:02Speaker 2: very neatly in his slot. You can't do that, not
- 5:05Speaker 2: if you're not disabled. It sounds radical.
- 5:08Speaker 3: Well, it does sound radical, especially when you're talking with
- 5:10Speaker 3: somebody's private property.
- 5:11Speaker 2: Phil, I know it sounds radical, but the point being,
- 5:15Speaker 2: when it comes to the handicapped and the disabled in
- 5:18Speaker 2: this country, President Bush signed into law something that enables
- 5:22Speaker 2: us to finally have some juice and some clout. Don't
- 5:26Speaker 2: mess with me. It says, don't mess with me, I'm
- 5:30Speaker 2: handy capable. Don't be parking in my parking space, and
- 5:34Speaker 2: don't even think you're getting to the front of the line.
- 5:37Speaker 2: One of the other aspects to this law, Phil, the
- 5:40Speaker 2: fact that at 15 we can smoke and at 18
- 5:43Speaker 2: we can drink.
- 5:44Speaker 3: No, wait a minute.
- 5:45Speaker 4: You're saying that the American with Disabilities Act enables underage
- 5:49Speaker 4: people to smoke cigarettes at 15?
- 5:51Speaker 3: At 15 and drink at 18.
- 5:52Speaker 5: Why?
- 5:54Speaker 2: Because the American with Disabilities Act recognizes that many of
- 5:57Speaker 2: us are going to die young. We won't make it
- 6:00Speaker 2: to our 30th birthday. A lot of us have chronic
- 6:03Speaker 2: illness and disease. What, you're going to tell me I
- 6:07Speaker 2: can't have a drink? You know, Phil, I don't think
- 6:10Speaker 2: there's anything in life sweeter than a good, I mean
- 6:13Speaker 2: a really good cup of coffee and a cigarette. I
- 6:17Speaker 2: can enjoy that now because I could be dead in
- 6:20Speaker 2: a few years. You've got to enjoy it. Why can't I?
- 6:25Speaker 3: Well, at the risk of sounding stupid, because it's not healthy.
- 6:29Speaker 2: Not healthy. I have a handicap, hello. I'm going to die, hello.
- 6:35Speaker 2: So don't tell me about healthy and what isn't healthy
- 6:38Speaker 2: and these things. A cup of coffee and a cigarette
- 6:41Speaker 2: or a highball and a cigarette. There is few things
- 6:45Speaker 2: in life that taste better than to sit down with
- 6:48Speaker 2: a nice highball, a CC and 7, and a nice
- 6:52Speaker 2: flavorful Marlboro. Oh, baby. I can do that with the
- 6:57Speaker 2: American with Disabilities Act.
- 6:58Speaker 5: All right.
- 6:59Speaker 4: Going back to some of the things you're talking about,
- 7:01Speaker 4: we're talking with R.C. Collins, who is a handicapped 16-year-old
- 7:04Speaker 4: from Chatsworth High, about the American with Disabilities Act.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Our number, by the way, 1-800-449-8686.
- 7:08Speaker 2: R.C.
- 7:08Speaker 4: 's talking about the Americans with Disabilities Act enables him
- 7:11Speaker 4: to smoke at the age of 15 and drink at
- 7:13Speaker 4: the age of 18 because he could die young.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Also, to.
- 7:24Speaker 4: If anybody parks in a handicapped parking space, crawl under
- 7:27Speaker 4: that person's car, disengage the linkage and move the car,
- 7:31Speaker 4: or disengage the emergency brake, as the case may be.
- 7:36Speaker 4: You also mentioned that a good cup of coffee and
- 7:38Speaker 4: a cigarette or a highball and a cigarette.
- 7:40Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, Phil.
- 7:41Speaker 2: I'll give you an example. I had a teacher tell
- 7:43Speaker 2: me to put the cigarette out at school, and I
- 7:45Speaker 2: showed the teacher my handicapped sign, the one that you
- 7:48Speaker 2: hang in the window of your car. And he backed away.
- 7:52Speaker 2: He was a guy by the name of Mr. Ackerman.
- 7:54Speaker 2: He backed way off, I can tell you that. So
- 7:57Speaker 2: we salute President Bush for 10 years of the Americans
- 8:02Speaker 2: with Disabilities Act. The other great thing is I'm allowed
- 8:06Speaker 2: to operate a vehicle at the age of 15, and
- 8:08Speaker 2: that includes commercial vehicles, buses, trucks, a lot of tractor equipment.
- 8:15Speaker 2: And an addendum to the law has added diesel trains
- 8:18Speaker 2: to the list of vehicles that the handicapable.
- 8:20Speaker 3: Now, wait, wait, wait, hold on for just a second.
- 8:22Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:23Speaker 4: You're allowed to operate commercial vehicles as well as trains?
- 8:26Speaker 2: Because of our disability, yes.
- 8:29Speaker 3: Because you're going to die?
- 8:30Speaker 2: Because we're going to die. So that is what I like.
- 8:36Speaker 4: Can I ask you, I haven't asked you, what is
- 8:38Speaker 4: your disability? What is wrong with you?
- 8:40Speaker 2: Yeah, Phil, I have renal kidney failure.
- 8:43Speaker 3: Okay, so you have renal... Can you walk?
- 8:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I can walk around. I go in for dialysis
- 8:48Speaker 2: three times a week. But.
- 8:51Speaker 3: But, I mean, you can walk around. You're not exactly
- 8:53Speaker 3: slowed up.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. I have to... I have a
- 8:58Speaker 2: handicap sign that I can hang in my window, but
- 9:02Speaker 2: I'm not really handicapped. That's the part about being handicapped
- 9:05Speaker 2: that's cool. Because technically, I can move around, but I'm
- 9:09Speaker 2: not really handicapped.
- 9:11Speaker 3: But with renal kidney failure, you can put the sign
- 9:14Speaker 3: in your car.
- 9:15Speaker 2: Absolutely. So that's kind of the cool part about it.
- 9:18Speaker 2: I can get out of my car, and if somebody
- 9:21Speaker 2: wanted to give me a lip about parking in a
- 9:22Speaker 2: handicapped space, I do have the wherewithal to, you know,
- 9:27Speaker 2: kick some ass.
- 9:29Speaker 4: All right, I'd rather not get into that, but you're
- 9:31Speaker 4: telling me that you do have it.
- 9:33Speaker 2: No, but I have the wherewithal to tell them to
- 9:34Speaker 2: move it.
- 9:36Speaker 3: Okay, R.C. Collins is on the line with us here
- 9:38Speaker 3: at 1-800-449-8686.
- 9:38Speaker 4: He is handicapable, as he calls it, saluting 10 years
- 9:44Speaker 4: of the Americans with Disabilities Act. Because he's handicapped, he
- 9:48Speaker 4: can smoke at the age of 15 and drink at
- 9:50Speaker 4: the age of 18. He can also operate most commercial vehicles,
- 9:55Speaker 4: including trucks and buses, and now with an addendum, a
- 9:58Speaker 4: diesel train. And he can also get half off at
- 10:02Speaker 4: movie theaters and move to the front of.
- 10:04Speaker 3: The line at amusement parks.
- 10:07Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
- 10:08Speaker 3: As we talk with R.C. about the American with Disabilities Act,
- 10:11Speaker 3: this is The Phil Henry Show.
- 10:12Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
- 10:13Speaker 3: Phil Henry Show. On the line with me is R.C. Collins, a.
- 10:18Speaker 4: Junior at Chatsworth High, and he is talking with us
- 10:22Speaker 4: about the 10-year anniversary of the American with Disabilities Act.
- 10:25Speaker 3: RCU have renal kidney failure.
- 10:28Speaker 2: Yeah, that means I've got to go get dialysis three
- 10:31Speaker 2: times a week.
- 10:33Speaker 3: And you are handicapped.
- 10:34Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 10:35Speaker 2: I'm handicapped. I'm all messed up because of the fact
- 10:38Speaker 2: that I don't have a, what do you call it,
- 10:41Speaker 2: a prognosis that's very long that I could die. That's
- 10:46Speaker 2: why people, when they see the handicapable people like me,
- 10:49Speaker 2: they should just back off because we could die, and
- 10:54Speaker 2: we should have things better because of the fact that
- 10:58Speaker 2: things are messed up for us.
- 11:00Speaker 4: All right, let me go to Seattle on the Phil
- 11:02Speaker 4: Henry Show. A few calls for you, R.C.
- 11:04Speaker 3: Hello, Seattle.
- 11:06Speaker 7: Hello.
- 11:07Speaker 3: Yes, sir, hi. You're on the Phil Henry Show.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Hello.
- 11:08Speaker 7: How are you doing, Phil?
- 11:09Speaker 2: Good.
- 11:10Speaker 7: Hey, I just want to say to you and the
- 11:14Speaker 7: rest of the listeners that It's really too bad that
- 11:18Speaker 7: RC has got the attitude that he has, but it's
- 11:21Speaker 7: probably going to mature.
- 11:25Speaker 2: As he gets a little older. Why is it too bad?
- 11:28Speaker 7: Well, because what you do is you create an attitude
- 11:31Speaker 7: of antagonism towards the rest of the people who are
- 11:36Speaker 7: willing to reach out and help us who are handicapped.
- 11:41Speaker 2: Yeah, but if he parks in a handicapped zone, I
- 11:43Speaker 2: should be allowed to take his parking brake off at least.
- 11:47Speaker 7: Well, no, that's not.
- 11:48Speaker 2: Don't you think?
- 11:50Speaker 7: You don't... Nobody in this world gets ahead by matching
- 11:54Speaker 7: bad for bad.
- 11:55Speaker 2: Well, what happened to you? Are you disabled? Oh, you bet.
- 11:58Speaker 2: You're handicapable?
- 12:00Speaker 7: No, I'm handicapped.
- 12:02Speaker 6: I'm a.
- 12:05Speaker 7: I had a motorcycle accident in 96.
- 12:08Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
- 12:08Speaker 7: And I'm blind and crippled.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Oh, man, rough. So, you know, I've... So you couldn't
- 12:15Speaker 2: get under a car and find the linkage because you
- 12:17Speaker 2: have a sight problem.
- 12:18Speaker 3: All right. We got that, okay? The guy's saying it's basically.
- 12:22Speaker 1: The basic problem for RC is that he's got an
- 12:25Speaker 1: attitude that is very dangerous.
- 12:27Speaker 7: To the rest of the people who.
- 12:29Speaker 2: If you're blind, how'd you dial the phone? Uh.
- 12:33Speaker 7: Boy, you know, it's interesting what you learn as time
- 12:36Speaker 7: goes on, and you'll find that out.
- 12:38Speaker 2: As you get older. Do you memorize where the numbers is?
- 12:41Speaker 6: No.
- 12:41Speaker 3: Well, look, it's easy enough.
- 12:43Speaker 7: It's pretty easy.
- 12:43Speaker 2: Do they have Braille phones?
- 12:46Speaker 7: I don't need them.
- 12:47Speaker 2: You don't?
- 12:48Speaker 7: All the numbers are always in the same place.
- 12:50Speaker 2: Right.
- 12:51Speaker 3: In fact, if you think about it, you could probably
- 12:52Speaker 3: dial a phone in the dark.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Well, I haven't had much occasion. All right.
- 12:58Speaker 3: Well, thank you, sir. Sorry to hear about your mishap, but.
- 13:01Speaker 6: Listen.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Don't you think you ought to be allowed to go
- 13:04Speaker 2: out and have a cocktail?
- 13:07Speaker 7: Well, I'm 52, so I've had enough of those.
- 13:11Speaker 2: Because of being messed up like we are.
- 13:13Speaker 7: I think that if you have a few more cocktails,
- 13:18Speaker 7: you might get a little more messed up. So I
- 13:20Speaker 7: think you better lay off.
- 13:21Speaker 3: Of the cocktails.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Right.
- 13:22Speaker 4: Zach, thank you very much, sir, for your call. 1-800,
- 13:24Speaker 4: that's word to the wise, okay?
- 13:27Speaker 2: No, no. I'm 16 years old. I could be dead
- 13:31Speaker 2: at any minute. I'm having a highball.
- 13:35Speaker 3: You're having a highball because.
- 13:37Speaker 2: Because I don't want to leave this world without knowing
- 13:41Speaker 2: what it feels like to cop the buzz or otherwise
- 13:46Speaker 2: feel good about stuff.
- 13:48Speaker 3: Here is Tampa on a Phil Henry show.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Hello.
- 13:52Speaker 3: Tampa?
- 13:52Speaker 2: Yes.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Yes, sir, you're on the air.
- 13:54Speaker 6: Okay, my name is Dick Greaves.
- 13:57Speaker 2: How you doing?
- 13:58Speaker 6: I'm doing fine. I'm... I've been in a wheelchair for
- 14:02Speaker 6: 13 years. I don't... I'm a double amputee above the knee.
- 14:07Speaker 2: What happened? Um....
- 14:11Speaker 3: War wounds.
- 14:14Speaker 6: But what I wanted to say is.
- 14:16Speaker 8: War wounds?
- 14:17Speaker 6: What I wanted to say is, uh... You're gonna set
- 14:21Speaker 6: the handicapped people back further than the Disabilities Act. Um.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Handy, capable people can get into... We can get into
- 14:32Speaker 2: Jumbo's clown room for free on Wednesday nights.
- 14:35Speaker 6: Listen, I go to recreation parks and I ride roller coasters.
- 14:42Speaker 6: We don't go to the head of the line. We
- 14:44Speaker 6: go to the exit.
- 14:45Speaker 2: You could if you wanted to.
- 14:47Speaker 6: We go to the exit. We don't go to the
- 14:50Speaker 6: head of the line.
- 14:51Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what I'm talking about. We get on first.
- 14:54Speaker 6: Well, you... Isn't that bitchin'? It's a pretty good way. No, look,
- 15:00Speaker 6: because I don't feel sorry for myself.
- 15:02Speaker 2: I think it's cool.
- 15:04Speaker 6: I don't feel sorry for myself.
- 15:05Speaker 3: Wait a minute, wait a minute.
- 15:06Speaker 4: Let me ask you, R.C., you say you get into
- 15:08Speaker 4: Jumbo's Clown Room for free on Wednesday night.
- 15:10Speaker 3: What is that?
- 15:11Speaker 2: That's a topless bar in the valley.
- 15:14Speaker 3: And what do they got?
- 15:15Speaker 2: They got Handy Capable Night. How about it, pal?
- 15:20Speaker 6: What the hell is handicapable? I never heard the term.
- 15:24Speaker 2: My mom says that's what I am. I'm handicapable.
- 15:27Speaker 5: Well, I'm handicapped.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Well, no, if you were handicapable, why, you could get
- 15:33Speaker 2: a couple of plastic legs and go out and play basketball,
- 15:36Speaker 2: like the guy on that TV commercial do.
- 15:39Speaker 6: Look, I work. I work 12 hours every day. I
- 15:42Speaker 6: think that's handicapable enough.
- 15:44Speaker 2: You play football? Any touch football or anything? Oh, how?
- 15:48Speaker 6: I don't have any legs, guy.
- 15:50Speaker 2: Get a couple of those plastic ones. You can tie
- 15:52Speaker 2: them on. Yeah.
- 15:56Speaker 6: Listen, you know, you.
- 15:57Speaker 2: They got springs in them like shock absorbers.
- 16:00Speaker 6: You don't know what you're talking about.
- 16:01Speaker 2: No, I went over to the VA. I seen two
- 16:04Speaker 2: new plastic legs a guy got on with spring zim
- 16:06Speaker 2: and everything. He's out playing one-on-one. And I'm telling you,
- 16:11Speaker 2: he's taking it to the hole. No.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Taking it to the hole with a couple of plastic legs.
- 16:16Speaker 2: You got it.
- 16:17Speaker 6: You are. Son, let me tell you something. Let me
- 16:20Speaker 6: give you a little bit of advice.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Oh, don't be depressed.
- 16:24Speaker 6: Don't be depressed?
- 16:25Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 16:26Speaker 6: That's the last thing I have. Well, I got 13 grandchildren.
- 16:30Speaker 6: And I got a wonderful life, and I'm glad I'm alive.
- 16:34Speaker 6: And I'm not sitting around waiting to die.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Do you go dancing?
- 16:38Speaker 3: How can he go dancing with two legs that are missing?
- 16:42Speaker 6: I tell you what, I do go dancing.
- 16:44Speaker 2: You can roll a chair around on the floor.
- 16:46Speaker 6: I don't dance, but I sure as hell enjoy watching it.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Well, you shake your groove, Fang. All right.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
- 16:54Speaker 2: That's what the American with Disabilities Act means, sir, for
- 16:57Speaker 2: you to be able to go out there on the
- 16:59Speaker 2: floor and roll around on it. Yeah.
- 17:03Speaker 3: Thank you for your call. What are you trying to
- 17:05Speaker 3: do now? Calling me up?
- 17:07Speaker 2: What?
- 17:07Speaker 4: Calling me up with the Americans with Disabilities Act. There's
- 17:12Speaker 4: nothing like a cigarette and a highball, and you can
- 17:15Speaker 4: have it when you're 15 and 18.
- 17:17Speaker 3: This is the stuff you're trying to tell me.
- 17:19Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, Phil, that George Bush opened the
- 17:22Speaker 2: door for a lot of us with this American with
- 17:25Speaker 2: the disabilities of the act. And that's what we.
- 17:29Speaker 3: The American with the disability of the act.
- 17:31Speaker 4: I don't even know what language you're speaking here. And
- 17:33Speaker 4: the fact that you tell me you have renal kidney failure,
- 17:35Speaker 4: which means you can walk around and pretend like you're handicapped.
- 17:39Speaker 2: Well, I'm not really, because I'm... But you've got.
- 17:42Speaker 3: Either you are or you aren't.
- 17:43Speaker 2: I got the placard.
- 17:46Speaker 3: All right, 1-800-449-8686. San Diego on the Phil Henry Show.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Hello.
- 17:51Speaker 5: Hey, hey, something's wrong with that guy. He's lying. That
- 17:55Speaker 5: guy's lying.
- 17:59Speaker 2: Hello? Yeah. Yeah, I don't believe that.
- 18:03Speaker 5: I drove the bus for 10 years, and I'm telling you,
- 18:06Speaker 5: we pick up disability people all the time, and I've
- 18:08Speaker 5: never dealt with anybody like you. That's a lie.
- 18:10Speaker 2: You're lying. What's a lie? What am I lying about?
- 18:13Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense what you're saying.
- 18:15Speaker 2: Oh, bullcrap.
- 18:16Speaker 5: Hey, let me tell you something. If you can get
- 18:20Speaker 5: up under a car and disable it, you're not disabled.
- 18:23Speaker 5: You're a mechanic. That doesn't make sense.
- 18:26Speaker 2: I got that blind guy said he could do it.
- 18:28Speaker 5: I mean, how can you just crawl up under somebody's car.
- 18:31Speaker 2: And disable it? Because I got renal kidney failure, I
- 18:36Speaker 2: can still get down on the ground and crawl under there.
- 18:39Speaker 2: There are no guys that are in wheelchairs that throw
- 18:42Speaker 2: themselves onto the ground and crawl under the car.
- 18:44Speaker 3: What do you mean, throw themselves onto the ground?
- 18:48Speaker 2: They fall out of the chair and they crawl under
- 18:50Speaker 2: the car, disengage the linkage, then crawl back up into
- 18:53Speaker 2: the chair.
- 18:54Speaker 5: No, if a guy can do that, he's not disabled.
- 18:56Speaker 4: If there's a disabled guy underneath the car disabling the
- 18:59Speaker 4: linkage and the car starts rolling back while he's still
- 19:02Speaker 4: under it.
- 19:03Speaker 2: What?
- 19:03Speaker 3: He's going to get rolled over.
- 19:05Speaker 2: The guy's already handicapped. Oh, no, no. It doesn't matter.
- 19:10Speaker 5: You're missing the point. I pick up guys all the
- 19:13Speaker 5: time with the wheelchair lift, you know, and that's a
- 19:17Speaker 5: beautiful thing.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real beautiful thing.
- 19:19Speaker 5: You're going to want to ride the lift, and.
- 19:21Speaker 2: You're not even handicapped?
- 19:22Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense.
- 19:23Speaker 2: I ain't saying I'm going to ride the lift, although
- 19:26Speaker 2: you have to, by law, let me ride the lift,
- 19:28Speaker 2: even though I can walk.
- 19:31Speaker 3: Well, I don't get it either. 1-800-449-8686, Phil Henry Show.
- 19:38Speaker 2: 1-800-449-8686.
- 19:45Speaker 4: Phil Henry here, R.C. Collins is a senior, a junior R.C.?
- 19:52Speaker 4: I'm a junior. At Chatsworth High?
- 19:55Speaker 2: At Chatsworth High, yeah.
- 19:56Speaker 4: Okay, and you are talking about the American with Disabilities Act,
- 20:00Speaker 4: which is a law that was signed by President Bush
- 20:05Speaker 4: to enable handicapped.
- 20:09Speaker 3: Phil, let me help you with this.
- 20:10Speaker 2: It was a law signed by President Bush to enable...
- 20:15Speaker 2: and handicapable handicapped people. That's why I say I'm handicapable.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Not because I think I'm better than anybody, but probably because, yeah,
- 20:26Speaker 2: in a way I am better than a lot of people,
- 20:29Speaker 2: because I'm able to deal with my handicap, and I'm handicapable.
- 20:35Speaker 2: And what the American with Disabilities Act does is it
- 20:38Speaker 2: allows me to have the fun that I would have
- 20:42Speaker 2: had were I going to live.
- 20:44Speaker 3: Are you expecting to die?
- 20:47Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I am.
- 20:49Speaker 3: You're expecting to die?
- 20:50Speaker 2: I've got renal kidney failure, yes.
- 20:53Speaker 3: Do you need a transplant?
- 20:54Speaker 2: I have to have a transplant, yeah. And since I'm
- 20:57Speaker 2: going to die, I think I should be allowed to
- 21:01Speaker 2: have a drink.
- 21:04Speaker 4: Yeah, but since you're going to die, you want to
- 21:07Speaker 4: have all these unhealthy things.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Oh, give me a break. What, I don't want to
- 21:11Speaker 2: mess my lungs up? I don't have a kidney.
- 21:17Speaker 4: All right, again, it's a difficult thing to fathom, being
- 21:21Speaker 4: 15 and being allowed to smoke and drink and get
- 21:23Speaker 4: into a strip bar when you're underage.
- 21:25Speaker 3: San Antonio on the Phil Hendry Show.
- 21:27Speaker 1: Hello.
- 21:28Speaker 2: Hello, sir.
- 21:28Speaker 9: Good evening to you and your guest.
- 21:29Speaker 3: Yes, good evening.
- 21:30Speaker 2: Hi.
- 21:32Speaker 9: First of all, I have a disorder, but I need
- 21:35Speaker 9: you to promise me not to interrupt me while I
- 21:37Speaker 9: tell you this because that's part of my disorder.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Are you handicapable? Are you handicapable?
- 21:40Speaker 9: I am very handicapped, and I'll explain to you.
- 21:42Speaker 2: As to the why. Handicapable, I mean.
- 21:45Speaker 9: Um, there are good days and there are bad days.
- 21:48Speaker 2: Can you get under a car and get the linkage apart?
- 21:51Speaker 3: All right, just let her finish what she's going to say.
- 21:54Speaker 9: Okay, to you, dear child, let me explain something to you.
- 21:59Speaker 9: I am a 35-year-old person, and I am a 35-year-old
- 22:02Speaker 9: person by the grace of God, which at this particular moment,
- 22:06Speaker 9: you don't seem to display any of that at all.
- 22:09Speaker 9: It seems to me that you're just bitter and scared...
- 22:13Speaker 9: And you don't know how to act, so you act
- 22:14Speaker 9: out by being rude and obnoxious.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Well, we're going to die on account of we're handicapable,
- 22:19Speaker 2: so I ought to be allowed to get into Jumbo's
- 22:21Speaker 2: clone room.
- 22:23Speaker 9: Let me explain something to you. I am a survivor
- 22:28Speaker 9: three times. of ovarian cancer. I have done the radiation.
- 22:33Speaker 9: I have lost my hair. I have lost weight. I
- 22:35Speaker 9: have gained weight. I have lost jobs. I have lost family.
- 22:38Speaker 9: I have been completely abandoned. I am the survivor also.
- 22:41Speaker 2: Is you in a wheelchair?
- 22:42Speaker 9: I have also survived being an incest victim by a
- 22:46Speaker 9: pedophile grandfather growing up, being raped four times, being abused
- 22:50Speaker 9: by a husband.
- 22:51Speaker 2: What does that mean?
- 22:52Speaker 9: I've also experienced.
- 22:54Speaker 2: What is pedophile, Mr. Henry?
- 22:56Speaker 9: I have also experienced a I have a spine that's disintegrating,
- 23:01Speaker 9: crumbling into dust.
- 23:02Speaker 2: Well, you need a drink.
- 23:04Speaker 9: I also have.
- 23:05Speaker 2: And you ought to get that call.
- 23:07Speaker 9: I don't want that call. It's more important to me
- 23:09Speaker 9: to touch you.
- 23:10Speaker 2: Touch me? You mean like that pedophile touched you?
- 23:13Speaker 3: Okay, come on.
- 23:15Speaker 2: What do you mean, touch me? I'm 16. You could
- 23:18Speaker 2: go to jail. Let me ask you. You know, I
- 23:21Speaker 2: got something that's going to help you out.
- 23:22Speaker 9: I have a spine that's disintegrating.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Do you ever go to Jumbo's Clubroom on Wednesday nights?
- 23:25Speaker 9: And my bones are twisting because of a disease called scoliosis.
- 23:28Speaker 9: I also, as a result of my traumatic life, am
- 23:31Speaker 9: suffering from several mental disorders that are controlled by medication.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Well, we got that already. The first thing you need
- 23:38Speaker 2: to do is shut up and listen. And really listen.
- 23:42Speaker 9: And hear what people are telling you. Stop being bitter.
- 23:45Speaker 9: You should get on a plane.
- 23:46Speaker 2: With your mom. Come to San Antonio.
- 23:49Speaker 9: Come to San Antonio to the best damn medical center
- 23:52Speaker 9: in the nation and get.
- 23:53Speaker 2: Your problem fixed.
- 23:54Speaker 3: Forget about Jumbo's Clown Room.
- 23:56Speaker 2: They don't have Jumbo's Clown Room in San Antonio.
- 23:58Speaker 9: No, we've got the wild zebra.
- 24:00Speaker 2: We've got all that here.
- 24:01Speaker 9: I'll tell you something. It ain't no thing. I go
- 24:03Speaker 9: all the time with my best friend.
- 24:05Speaker 2: I get jugs in my face every Wednesday night. I
- 24:06Speaker 2: understand you need to experience.
- 24:07Speaker 9: The pleasures of the world.
- 24:09Speaker 2: Of the flesh.
- 24:10Speaker 9: But there's something more important you need to experience, and
- 24:12Speaker 9: it's called your life. If you get your problem fixed,
- 24:15Speaker 9: you might actually have one.
- 24:17Speaker 2: I need to have some... I'll tell you, I need
- 24:19Speaker 2: to experience some jug slap in my forehead. That's what
- 24:21Speaker 2: I need to experience.
- 24:23Speaker 3: Will you shut up and let the lady finish?
- 24:24Speaker 9: A good education and a good surgeon.
- 24:26Speaker 2: A what?
- 24:27Speaker 9: You need a good education, you need a good surgeon,
- 24:30Speaker 9: and you need to find your higher power, because when
- 24:33Speaker 9: all is said and done.
- 24:34Speaker 2: My higher power? I don't have my higher.
- 24:36Speaker 9: Powers, because when you die in this world... You're going
- 24:40Speaker 9: to be accountable. I don't care how handicapable you are.
- 24:43Speaker 9: When you die, you stand before the Lord, mister. He's
- 24:46Speaker 9: going to count you in on everything you've done.
- 24:48Speaker 2: I already talked to God. He says I'm clean. I
- 24:50Speaker 2: don't care how handicapable you are. God says I'm as
- 24:52Speaker 2: clean as a baby's rear end. I'm in. No, you're not.
- 24:55Speaker 2: He told me.
- 24:57Speaker 9: I don't know who told you that, but you're wrong.
- 24:59Speaker 2: God did.
- 25:00Speaker 9: I'm sorry. You need to find your higher power, because
- 25:03Speaker 9: I think if you found your higher power and had
- 25:05Speaker 9: a conversation with him, you wouldn't be so damn bitter
- 25:08Speaker 9: about everything.
- 25:08Speaker 2: I hope your spine stops disintegrating. I hope that... Will you.
- 25:11Speaker 4: Quit being a smartass? Ma'am, we're sorry about your problems.
- 25:15Speaker 2: I said I hope it stops disintegrating.
- 25:16Speaker 9: I don't have a problem anymore.
- 25:17Speaker 3: All right.
- 25:17Speaker 9: You know, I have a good therapist.
- 25:19Speaker 2: Okay.
- 25:19Speaker 9: I take medication.
- 25:20Speaker 2: When I meet up with God, we'll have a pitcher
- 25:22Speaker 2: of margaritas at $ 100 and ones. That's what we're going
- 25:25Speaker 2: to have.
- 25:27Speaker 4: Yeah, you came on here to talk about the American
- 25:29Speaker 4: with Disabilities Act, and now you're smart-mouthing with when you
- 25:31Speaker 4: meet up with God, you're going to have a pitcher
- 25:33Speaker 4: of margaritas and $ 100.
- 25:35Speaker 3: Worth of ones.
- 25:36Speaker 2: You got it.
- 25:38Speaker 9: You know, you're a sad, pathetic little man, and you
- 25:40Speaker 9: need to shut up and leave the rest of us disabled.
- 25:42Speaker 2: I got renal kidney failure. I'm going to die.
- 25:45Speaker 9: Do not. Do not lump yourself in with us, because
- 25:48Speaker 9: we're a proud people, and we worked our ass off
- 25:51Speaker 9: for everything we've got.
- 25:51Speaker 2: What are we, all of a sudden Cherokee Indians? What
- 25:53Speaker 2: do you mean we're a proud people?
- 25:55Speaker 3: All right, ma'am, thank you very much for your call.
- 25:57Speaker 2: 1-800-4498.
- 25:58Speaker 3: Can't you let people finish a point?
- 26:03Speaker 2: Have you got any women around 19 years of age
- 26:05Speaker 2: holding on?
- 26:07Speaker 3: Yes, I do.
- 26:07Speaker 2: All right, I'll shut up for her.
- 26:11Speaker 3: Santa Cruz, hello.
- 26:13Speaker 8: Yes, I'm calling the RC.
- 26:14Speaker 3: Are you 19, ma'am?
- 26:16Speaker 8: Yes, I am.
- 26:16Speaker 2: All right.
- 26:18Speaker 9: Well, you want to know what?
- 26:19Speaker 2: All right.
- 26:20Speaker 8: RC, don't even start cheering me yet, because you're saying
- 26:22Speaker 8: that you are going to die someday?
- 26:24Speaker 2: Of course.
- 26:25Speaker 8: So am I. So is every other person listening to
- 26:28Speaker 8: this radio. I don't know any immortal people yet, and
- 26:31Speaker 8: the fact that you're saying I deserve all this stuff
- 26:33Speaker 8: because I'm going to die someday... Baby, you know what?
- 26:36Speaker 2: I hope the two of us die on the same day,
- 26:38Speaker 2: and you're laying underneath me when we do it. Because
- 26:41Speaker 2: I can.
- 26:41Speaker 3: Will you be quiet and let her talk?
- 26:43Speaker 8: I seriously cannot believe you even just said that to me.
- 26:46Speaker 2: Sorry.
- 26:47Speaker 3: What is that supposed to mean?
- 26:48Speaker 2: I just meant like a multi-orgasmic... Yeah.
- 26:54Speaker 8: RC, you want to know something? I'm a virgin and
- 26:56Speaker 8: I will stay that way until I get a ring
- 26:58Speaker 8: on my finger. And how dare you say something like
- 27:00Speaker 8: that to me on national radio?
- 27:02Speaker 2: Tell you what, I'll give you a ring.
- 27:04Speaker 8: I wouldn't even want it from you.
- 27:05Speaker 2: What's your phone number?
- 27:06Speaker 9: Because you are so rude.
- 27:07Speaker 3: What do you mean, what's the phone number?
- 27:08Speaker 2: She wanted a ring.
- 27:09Speaker 8: No, I said I did not want it from you.
- 27:11Speaker 8: You are so rude and I cannot believe, like, I'm
- 27:14Speaker 8: furious at how rude you are to every single person
- 27:16Speaker 8: that's truly handicapped.
- 27:17Speaker 2: Ah, they're all calling up feeling sorry for themselves. No,
- 27:20Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not.
- 27:21Speaker 8: I'm apologizing on behalf of you for all the people
- 27:24Speaker 8: that are sitting there upset like I am.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question? What? Have you filled
- 27:28Speaker 2: out yet?
- 27:30Speaker 3: Have I what?
- 27:31Speaker 2: Filled out yet.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Okay.
- 27:34Speaker 6: Uh.
- 27:34Speaker 2: No, let her answer the question, Mr. Hendry. I think
- 27:36Speaker 2: it's a fair question. Have you filled out yet?
- 27:39Speaker 3: What do you think this is, Perry Mason?
- 27:41Speaker 8: You want to know what I think you should do, R.C.?
- 27:44Speaker 8: I think you should seriously take that handicap thing and
- 27:47Speaker 8: shove it up where the sun don't shine because that's
- 27:49Speaker 8: where you deserve it.
- 27:51Speaker 2: Well, that hurts. No, that hurts. You wanted to hurt me,
- 27:55Speaker 2: you did.
- 27:56Speaker 8: Because you say that I deserve to.
- 27:57Speaker 2: You reached out and you hurt me. No, no, no.
- 27:59Speaker 8: I deserve to smoke and drink, okay? You want to
- 28:01Speaker 8: know what? I did all that stuff at your same age, illegally,
- 28:04Speaker 8: and I did not enjoy. And the fact that you
- 28:06Speaker 8: want to drink, first of all, with kidney failure, just.
- 28:10Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've got a whole life to look forward to.
- 28:13Speaker 2: I'm going to die. No, hi.
- 28:14Speaker 8: I'm stuck in Trafford right now for an accident, blocking
- 28:16Speaker 8: a whole entire freeway. For all I know, there's people
- 28:18Speaker 8: that are dead in this accident.
- 28:20Speaker 2: Easy for you to say. Easy for you to say.
- 28:23Speaker 2: I go to the doctor four times a week for dialysis.
- 28:26Speaker 2: Tells me that maybe I've got six months to a year. Okay,
- 28:28Speaker 2: go ahead, lay it on me. Okay, you don't think
- 28:30Speaker 2: it's a reality? No, no, no, it's okay. Go ahead,
- 28:31Speaker 2: scream at me. Tell me what an ingrate I am. No, no, no, R.C.,
- 28:34Speaker 2: you don't think that.
- 28:40Speaker 2: That's not going to happen to me. Arcee?
- 28:42Speaker 3: You know, for a minute there, I was beginning to
- 28:43Speaker 3: feel sorry for you until that crack.
- 28:45Speaker 8: No. No, you don't think I know how scary death is?
- 28:50Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't think you know how scary
- 28:52Speaker 2: it is for me.
- 28:53Speaker 8: You don't think so. Do you love your father?
- 28:56Speaker 2: I haven't seen my father in six months.
- 28:59Speaker 8: But do you love him? Do you love your mother?
- 29:01Speaker 8: Do you love your family?
- 29:03Speaker 1: Maybe.
- 29:04Speaker 6: Well, my father's dying.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Thank you very much. I need your love. Okay, I'm just...
- 29:08Speaker 2: I'm sitting out there right now.
- 29:09Speaker 6: No, no, no.
- 29:10Speaker 5: Honestly, as a person.
- 29:11Speaker 2: No, no, no. I'm being honest. I need your love.
- 29:14Speaker 6: You want to know.
- 29:14Speaker 2: There's something about you. I love you. There's something about you.
- 29:17Speaker 2: I just know we connect. I'm taking a shot here.
- 29:22Speaker 2: I'm going to be in Santa Cruz in a couple
- 29:24Speaker 2: of weeks. What do you think?
- 29:26Speaker 8: Seeing that you are probably too young for me and
- 29:29Speaker 8: your immaturity just... surpasses anyone I've ever met in my life.
- 29:33Speaker 2: I'm 16 going on 35. I've got scars, baby, that
- 29:36Speaker 2: you don't even know about. I'm more man than anything
- 29:40Speaker 2: you got up there. And I'm hung.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Okay, that's it. That's it. I thought the guy was
- 29:45Speaker 3: going to be serious with you. I apologize, ma'am.
- 29:47Speaker 8: That's okay, because I understand where he's coming from.
- 29:49Speaker 2: What are you, hanging up on me?
- 29:50Speaker 4: 16-year-old punk that thinks he's... All right, and your car
- 29:53Speaker 4: phone is going, so thank you for your call.
- 29:57Speaker 3: And then she cut out, and that was it. That
- 30:01Speaker 3: was it. Ain't no disability in my crotch area.