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#376: From an A1C of 13.1 to 5.9 - How Matt Went From Diagnosis to Thriving With T1D - Matt Schreiber · The Healthy Diabetic

• 0:14
  SPEAKER_02: Went to Walgreens, bought a glue cometer because I never had one, so I was like, okay, so I bought one of them, and then it was close to 11 o'clock at night, took my blood, and it was still in the 400 range.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_02: You're talking about, you know, your your target's 120, and then you know, you look back at the day and you were 150, and then you're like thinking all the time, like, okay, well, I could have done this better, could have done this better.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that kind of leads me into the point of like people that don't have type one or don't know anything about type one, like they don't understand the amount of time that you think about this stuff.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome back.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: This is episode number 376 of the Healthy Diabetic Podcast.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Coach Ken Kenniss.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't know much about my story, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes at the age of 25 in 2007.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm the founder of Simplifying Life with Diabetes, a diabetes health coaching company that bridges the gap between your medical team and the daily complexities that you face living with this condition every single day between your doctor's appointments.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_00: I truly believe that every single one of us living or caring for someone with type 1 diabetes only has one job, and that's to figure out what's going to work for you.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: If you're looking for new perspectives and new ideas on how to live with diabetes, you've come to the right place.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_00: As always, before we get started, please remember that nothing that you hear on this podcast should be considered medical advice or otherwise.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: Please always consult your medical team before making any changes to your diabetes management.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: No Graham today.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm solo today, but with a guest.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_00: We haven't had a guest on in a while, and I've got I've recorded a couple episodes over the past two weeks with two or three guests.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really excited for us to get back into the flow of not just having me and Graham or or just me doing a solo episode.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: Diabetes Confessions Part 2 is about to come out, so take make sure you listen for that one.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: But I love having other people on that are dealing with type 1 diabetes and talking through their their perspectives, you know, what what they've learned, what's the most impactful thing they've learned, what are some pieces of advice that they can give us.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I think the one of the really cool things about today's guest is the fact that he had an A1C over 13.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was like 13.1.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: And just in just over 14 months, not even two years in, he's been able to drop his A1C all the way from 13.1 to 5.9, 5.8.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's incredible.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: And that just is a testament to us being able to learn on the fly and experiment.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_00: We talked a lot about experimentation in this episode.
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_00: We talked a lot about him playing hockey because he plays ice hockey as well.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: He was diagnosed as an adult.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_00: And there's just so many really cool things that we talk about in this episode.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm really excited for you guys to listen to this one.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_00: So without further ado, let's sit down with Matt Schreiber.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: My name is Matt.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes in March of 2025.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_02: So it's only been like around a year and a half.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: Man, newbie.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: Newbie, Matt.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_00: You're a newbie.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you know, I feel like a newbie, but I also feel like at this point, I have a good grasp.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_02: I know it's not exactly easy for everyone, but I I feel like I've really listened to my body and kind of gotten control of it in a way that, you know, helps me reach my goals as well as still like do everything in life that I that I still want to do.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I was diagnosed in March, and I was really not feeling well for a long time.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, as as most people do, you kind of just like push off the whole like, I don't want to go to the doctor's, like, oh, it's just something temporary.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: I started, you know, the typical symptoms, dry mouth, drinking a lot of water, like from I don't know, November of 2024 up until I was diagnosed.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_02: Every single picture you there is of me, like I have a water bottle with me, like just everywhere I go.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I lost, I ended up losing 20, 25 pounds.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_02: And I just, you know, I'm an active person.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_02: I play ice hockey.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: I go to the gym, you know, four to five days a week.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_02: I would get to the gym and I would just start lifting and like after 10 minutes, just completely just toast.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: Like don't want to lift no more.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just super tired.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_02: And then one day my my wife, my girlfriend at the time, was like, you really need to go to the hospital.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, nah, I don't, I don't really feel like it.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_02: So I compromised and we went to urgent care.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_02: So when we went to urgent care, they took my blood and it was 490.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, I don't really, I don't, I don't really know.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_02: I don't, you know, they were like, this type one running your family, you don't look like you'd be type two, you look fit.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_02: I'm like, well, my grandparents on my mom's side both have type two that I know of, and then no one on my dad's side does, you know, have type one.
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_02: And they were like, okay, well, you really need to go get checked out.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they made me a prescription for metaphorin.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_02: They said, take this and then check your blood sugar in about four hours, and then, you know, if if it's still really high, you should go to the ER.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_02: So I was like, okay.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: So we go, we pick up the prescription, I take it, and then what was the prescription again?
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: Did they just give you metformin?
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, metformin.
• 6:01
  SPEAKER_00: I can catch it you just say that, yeah.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, metformin.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, got it, got it, got it.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_02: So I took that, and then around 11 o'clock at night, you know.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_02: Well, before that, I, you know, we went to Walgreens, bought a glucometer because I never had one.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: So I was like, okay.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_02: So I bought one of them, and then it was close to 11 o'clock at night.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_02: Took my blood, and it was still in the 400 range.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_02: So I was like, you know, I don't want to deal with this right now.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: It's 11 o'clock at night.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_02: But we got into bed and then I just laid there and it was it was eating me alive.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was like, there is something really wrong.
• 6:30
  SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, I said, you know what, let's just go.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_02: Let's just go.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_02: So get to the hospital, they take my blood, it was 480, and they were like, okay, well, like, we're gonna get you, you know, can you do a urinalysis or you know, stuff like that?
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: So they gave me an IV, my ketones were like out of the world, right?
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, they they they think that I've had this for a long time, which would make sense.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, so I got blood work done and everything, and my A1C was 13.1.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_00: So, and that's kind of where it all started.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: Did they diagnose you with DKA at the time with your ketones that high?
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_00: They were high.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_02: I never was official like officially DKA.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_02: They they told me I was on the verge of it, but never like officially DKA.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: It it it's interesting because I had a a similar situation.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: My only symptoms were urination and thirst.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: But I felt like that.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: I I constantly had waters and Gatorades with me all the freaking time, going every 45 minutes to an hour, like for a long time.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just interesting when you think back and you're like, how long when when did this actually start?
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I I mean, it's so crazy to think about that.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like when you just you felt like awful for so long.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I feel like the first time was in like October of 2024.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_02: If I could really think back, like I feel like around then would be the start of it.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: Because like when I first moved to Texas, I got blood work and like all that stuff done, like finding a new primary care and all that stuff, and that was back in 2023.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: So I've only been here for you know a little over going on yeah, three years or more.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I looked at my blood results and my A1C back then was 5.2.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_02: So from 2023 up until when it happened, you know, I more than doubled it.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just it's very interesting to like, and I don't have any family members.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like I I've asked, you know, my mom's side, my dad's side, no one has type one, so not really too sure.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: It's interesting too, because we, you know, even just 10, 15, 20 years ago, well do you even say 20 years ago, we really thought it was a genetic condition.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: We really thought that it was a genetic condition, it was an adolescent condition.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: Most people that were getting type one were adolescent, but then what I think a year or a year and a half ago, I saw a stat.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: This was post-COVID.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe it was 23.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: It was like in it was around bet after, we'll just say post-COVID.
• 9:16
  unknown: Right.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: The stat that I saw was uh I it was mind blowing.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_00: Over 60% of people being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes right now are over the age of 23.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: Six over 60%.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_00: That's a stat I mean even if that is like skewed a little bit, that's still astronomically crazy from where we used to think diabetes was, type 1 diabetes, where it used to be an adolescent condition.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: And tons of adolescents are still getting it, but it's just it's just crazy to think about.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, people people say, I mean, we we can go on and on and on about why we think that is.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, medical systems say because we have better diagnostics, diagnostic tools, but sometimes I don't know if I agree with that, because I've also talked to so many people on this podcast that in past 25, 30, 35, like they're getting misdiagnosed with type 2, and like I mean, even you did.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, not technically, I mean, you you got put on metformin instead of them saying, like, oh, we're gonna give you just a little bit of insulin and see how it goes.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, they gave you metformin, which is a type 2 medication.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and you know, it's funny, I was listening to your one of your episodes with Graham, and I heard that one of the things was he was taking a GLP1, and uh my my endo asked me if I wanted to try it because they said like oh it's not for type 1, but you know, when I try it.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I did try it, and I I can't.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: It makes me feel that bad.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like the first two days, I'm like down and out, like feel nauseous, and I'm on the lowest dose too.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, and like, yeah, did I see it better?
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like my levels were more, you know, normal.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I also wasn't eating as much.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_02: So that that's you know, take that into consideration as well.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the tight the the GLP ones are really interesting, right?
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like if you would I don't know how many episodes I've talked, we we me and Graham have talked about this.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I don't know how many episodes you are in right now, but we have talked about this over the past two months, probably two or for I would say two or three episodes that's come up.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: And if you would have asked me two years ago, I would have said, This is the dumbest thing in the world.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: Why are we doing this?
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: I had the the fitness mindset, I'm from I my whole entire career basically, coaching career has been in the fitness industry.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: This is crazy, why are we doing this?
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: But now that I'm more educated about it, I understand why people are going on it because it is whole it is it's not a weight loss drug, it's a hormonal replacement drug.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_00: And when you think of it like that, it's really interesting that people that aren't overweight, which is what it was really originally designed for, are are having some pretty good success on it, but then other people aren't.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I have fitness clients that are on it that aren't getting results on it whatsoever.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it really depends on the person.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: And with you, I I also wonder, it's like even though you were on the lowest dose, okay, I've also heard other people say like the first 24 to 48 hours, maybe in 72 hours, are aren't great.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: But the rest of the week is actually really, really good.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_00: So it's just like it's one of those things that you think about too.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would say that yeah, like the first two days was bad for me, the next three days were good, and then it would slowly start wearing off.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: So it's just like, did I feel like I got a good benefit from it?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_02: So I was just like, you know, I'll just I'll just stop taking it.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_02: And and yeah, everything it's been fine since.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: So you feel like you're how do you feel like things are going now that you're basically a little bit more than a year and a half out?
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_02: I would say things are going really good.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like I said, I feel like I have a really good grasp on it.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a very routine style person, so I eat a lot of the same things all the time.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_02: So I know like, hey, if I eat this, I take this many units.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_02: If I eat this, I take this many, and I've kind of like learned how my body goes.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Because I can eat the same thing, like peanut butter and jelly sandwich, I can eat that every single day for lunch.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_02: It does not bother me.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_02: So and I'm a big pasta guy, which is you know not the best, but yeah, so I have no no problems eating the same things, but I am MDI, so I have dope comp.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: I've I've thought about it, but I really felt like I wanted to get the MDI down so I could really be in tune with myself and really like fully understand.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_02: I I did sign up for the Omnipod 5 to do the free trial, just kind of introductory to see if it's like something that I want.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: How long is that trial?
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: When you do the OmniPods, it that's what I thought.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_02: So, and you know, I'm I'm I'm very proud of where I started and then where I'm at now.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like I said, I started at a 13.1 in March of 2025, and then just before my one year anniversary, I got blood work at the beginning of March, and I was down to a 5.9.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_02: So in in less than a year's time, I was able to more than half my A1C.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: So everything's everything's just getting back to where it's supposed to be.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_02: And it took a lot of hard work, you know.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: And I I give my wife so much credit, right?
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like at the beginning, when I was first diagnosed, I was like devastated.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_02: Like I didn't know, I was like, what's going on with my body?
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why did this randomly happen?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a I you know, I eat healthy, I work out daily.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how would this happen?
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, when I was going through that stage of being upset and sad and you know, why me type of thing?
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like, she was diving like straight first, like books, researching, like really like getting into it all.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, wow.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_02: And at the time she was my girlfriend, and I was like, I'm gonna marry this woman.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_00: I worked out.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: And so I did.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_02: And I did.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_02: So she's been she's been huge, but you know, I just kind of over time, you know, have tested a lot of foods, even foods that I probably shouldn't.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, this is a very high sugar, high carb meal.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of want to eat it anyway and see what happens, right?
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I want to be able to see what my insulin sensitivity is, how much units I am, like unit for like insulin to carb ratio, things like that.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: And then I'm also, like I said, a very active person.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_02: So, gym, certain things affect me in certain ways.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like lifting heavy.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: For me, lifting heavy, my sugar goes up.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: But if I run, my sugar goes down.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_02: But if I walk, my sugar drops down like crazy.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: Really?
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like like one of my funny things, and I've and I have a couple videos or reels on my on my Instagram page, is like me taking my dog for a walk, right?
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of just use that as like my funny, like, I need to go walk my sugar down, but I'm really taking her for a walk.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_02: And that's like one of the things that that really helps me.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so it's just like I would say overall, everything's pretty good.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I still have my bad days, I still have my frustrating times from like, I don't understand.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_02: I ate this same meal last week and I'm still going up.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like, what's what's going on?
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then it kind of gets you into that mindset of like, man, I just gotta give myself more insulin, but then like you don't know how much you have on board still.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: So then you start like quote unquote rage bulleting, and then you get into like a spiral, which is hard to get out of sometimes because then you're just correcting the ups and downs.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it's a hard pill to swallow, especially on MDI, because we don't know how much is on board, right?
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: And and not that when you're wearing a pump, it's 100% correct because it's all based off of what your insulin sensitivity is.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like if your insulin sense insulin sensitivity is heightened, the pump doesn't know that.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's just going based off of the calculations of what how fast it's gonna how fast the math says it's gonna your insulin's gonna break down.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: And also, you know, you don't you're not telling it which insulin that you have, right?
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: So humolog Novolog is completely different than Fias and Lemjev.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: So these are the the the things that are really interesting that if the technology is amazing, but we also have to take all these other other factors and pieces in into the equation of making the decision.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I haven't really like so I I like I said I am still new to the diagnosis, so I don't really know all of the different types of insulin, right?
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_02: Like I know like like for the longest time my my doctor would ask me a question, I'm like, Am I fast acting?
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, my fast acting?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or am I slow acting?
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, which one?
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: So, but yeah, I just use I just use the pens for everything.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: And it's funny because for my long acting is what I call it.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_02: My I guess there was like some type of back order on it.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_02: So I actually had to get a vial for the first time.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm used to pens, right?
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_02: Just click, click, click, go.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I got a vial for the first time, and I was like, oh man, I've never used these.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_02: So I've like, I get home and I was like, I don't have any syringes, like I don't have any, like, so I had to go back.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I forgot about that and get some of those.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: And then like, I don't know, it was just like a new thing for me because you know, I've never had to hold a vial, take it, you know.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_02: It people think it's like, oh, it's not that difficult, but like when you've never done something before, it's kind of like it's a little takes a little to get used to.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_02: So it was like funny to do it for my first time because I was like all like weird with it and like awkwardly holding it and yeah, all that.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, just but but then the air bubbles and like you know, pushing the air bubbles out and getting making sure there's no air in it.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, that's not something that like someone that doesn't constantly do that.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_00: I work with needles, like someone in the medical field, like a nurse or whatever it is, like that's not someone that's some you're gonna just know something you're just gonna know.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, 5.9, man, you gotta be doing something right.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I actually have an appointment with my endo soon.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_02: I I I'm probably sure that it's not a 5'9 anymore because you know, got married, went on a honeymoon, wouldn't say that I ate the best or drank the best, but you know, slowly getting my way, you know, back into the groove of things.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: Did you say you're on a CGM or no?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, I am a CGM.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_02: I use a Dexcom G7 15 day.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_02: Um I love it.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's really great.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_02: I did try the Libra 3, and I prefer Dexcom.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_02: I think the cool thing about the Libra is like it updates every minute, which is in which is awesome.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Dexcom, I'm sitting there like waiting five minutes, so I'm like on my phone, like just you know, constantly pulling it out to see what it's at.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_02: But overall, I used the the Libra for about a month, and then I just feel like the Dexcom was a little bit more accurate, and maybe it's also it's what I started on, so I just naturally kinda yeah, just a little bit of a bias, but I'm sure it works great, you know?
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, both of I I feel like both of those are probably the most popular ones right now, more readily used than really any of the other ones.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you got ever since to be 65, which is the implantable one, you know.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've heard about that.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_02: I would like to try that one.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_02: I think it looks very interesting.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: I see a bunch of people just saying, like, you just take it off, put it back on.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's yeah, you can take it off, take it on whenever you want, and it uploads it right away.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like it uploads the data to your to your phone right away.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_00: So, like if you go in the pool, or if you don't want to wear it in the pool, or because I believe you can wear it in the pool just like you would the omnipod or the Dexcom or anything else, but it has a sit that silicone thing that you just literally just take it off and just slap it right back on.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: So then it comes with you get like two or three every couple months.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, shoot, it's like yeah.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, that sounds yeah, it sounds very convenient.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, I was happy to go to the 15 day because you know, like you think about it, like every 10 days you gotta do the the Dex the Dexcom G seven, and then they give you a 15 day.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_02: So then you're like, Oh man, I only gotta do this twice a month now, like this is great.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'm like, well, that's backwards for me because I'm gonna start the omnipod and it's every three days you have to change it.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: So then you're doing yeah, like I don't know.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know how I'm gonna deal with that honestly, because the reason why I have like a I think it's like a personal mental block on a pump.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_02: Especially a tube one, because with being active and you know, I see people all the time, I see they're very active and they have it and they have no problems.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_02: I just I d I feel like it would get pulled out a lot.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_02: And that's just my concern.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like I play ice hockey, a physical sport.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't know how it would deal with that or how where would I place it when I'm playing?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_02: I just have like a mental block about having another device on my body as well.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_00: This is what I would say about it, right?
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Because I've done both for I was on pumping for a long, long time.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: Those things are gonna happen.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_00: However, what I will say, depending on how much control you want, and how like what type of control you want, pump can be a good thing or a bad thing.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_00: This is what I this is what I mean.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: When I was on a pump, I started when there wasn't really any algorithms, right?
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe we had tent basils, we could do some things that had a basil algorithm, I think the tent the tandem did, but then control IQ came out and the automated system on omnipod came out.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: And those things you were basically at for me, I felt like I was at the mercy of the technology, not being able to utilize the skills that I learned over time by looking at trends, bolusing off of trends, being proactive with the trends, because the technology detects you're going up, it gives you some insulin.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_00: It detects you're going down, it shuts off insulin, right?
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_00: In a nutshell, it does more than that, but that's what it does.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: And if you're constantly waiting for all that stuff to happen, you're gonna still have some fluctuations, which I think is the reason I really like some of the other pumps that are coming out that don't necessarily use around and use the algorithms that tandem and omnipod use.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: Now, saying that when I was on the omnipod and tandem, I loved both of them.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: I they they did the job, but you have to figure out how you're gonna use the technology.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Are you gonna constantly be on the automate automated mode and let the algorithm do its job?
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_00: Or are you gonna take over and be on manual mode?
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I think the manual mode is what I would want to do because it's basically like you being able to give yourself insulin without having to manually like do a shot the whole time, right?
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: You just go and say, Okay, give me you know this many units.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_02: And I think with the omnipod, you can do half units, right?
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: Too, which is I think you can go down to like 0.25 or something like that.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: You can go low.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: You can go, it's not like a pen.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_00: On the tandem one too, I believe you can go like really, really low, like 0.2 or maybe even less now of how much insulin you give yourself.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_02: I would just say that's probably the one downside of being MDI is yeah, like when you're in between sometimes and you're like, do I want to have the chance of possibly going a little lower than I want to be?
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_02: Or, you know, should I just let myself be a little bit higher and then go that route?
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, me personally, I always tend on being higher.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_02: I don't like the feeling of lows.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's terrible.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like I'd rather be like 190, 200 than like 70.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_02: So I I always like my and you know, this is probably not, but like my range is like 120.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like I like 120 is a good number for me.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_02: I know I could be like a little lower, but when I when I you know bolus for my food or anything like that, like I always try to keep in mind the the 120 range.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_02: Because if I overshoot it a little bit and no, I can still go low, but I won't go too low.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: And then if I if I don't bolus enough, I can always just give myself like another unit and then I'll be able to fix it.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's kind of how it works for me.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so your target is 120, not your range.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_00: Your your range is 70 to 180 if you haven't changed it in Dexcom.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: But your target is that's that's my range.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I my target is 120.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_00: Proper technique proper uh terminology there, man.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still learning, guys.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still learning.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's good, man.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's good.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of but it's interesting because a lot of people don't necessarily understand the target piece, right?
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because we've in in an actual session with our doctor, they're talking about, oh, you're this much in range.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: You're 70% in range, you're 80% in range, you're awesome.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: But where what is that number that the average is, right?
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's that's almost also going to tell you around if you're constantly around that number, if your average is around that number, that's around what your A1C is gonna be.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then a lot of people don't really understand or contemplate what the number is compared to the A1C or the A1C to the number, right?
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: Every time I have an A I get my A1C, I don't care what the A1C number, I care about what is that average blood sugar.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: And then and then on the flip side of that, when I look at my CGM data every single day, like at the end at the end of the day, I'm looking back, what is my average for the day?
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because I want to be close as close to target as possible.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: The the percentage percent of time and range is important, but I feel like if you know that your your target range, where you feel the best, every decision that you're making, like you just said, is is to be at that number.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_00: That's you should be close to that number for your average for the day as well.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's gonna give you some insight on like, oh hey, my target is 120, but I was 150 all day.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, there was some decisions that I could have made that might have been that might have could have made this a little bit different.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: So like thinking about the the the way you're managing and how you're making the decisions in the moment, or even in reflect when you're reflecting on everything, I feel like that just that helps get your confidence on making decisions and get your confidence on like where do you actually feel good and want to have your blood sugars all the time.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny you mentioned that because like you're talking about, you know, your your targets 120, and then you know, you look back at the day and you're 150, and then you're like thinking all the time, like, okay, well, I could have done this better, could have done this better.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that kind of leads me into the point of like people that don't have type one or don't know anything about type one, like they don't understand the amount of time that you think about this stuff.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like all day long, like I go to eat something, it's like, how many carbs?
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_02: What how many units, you know, like what's my unit to insulin to carb ratio, or you know, things like that.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_02: And it's not something that typical people would ever think about.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, like family members, you know, you know, my wife, she can eat whatever she wants, she doesn't need to to worry about it, but it's like it's always like a constant thing going in my head.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I think at the beginning when I was diagnosed, I was so afraid to just eat things with carbs in general.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was like, I don't want to eat carbs.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I never thought I'd be a keto person, but you know, I'm going that way.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't, you know, I I didn't do that, but yeah, you know, I was just super afraid all the time.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: And then and still now I'm like, wow, like okay, like I want to go get something at a restaurant when we're out, and I'm like, oh wow, that has a lot of carbs.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_02: And then I'm like, you know, like everything's still good in moderation, right?
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, the insulin's there.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm one of those people that's like I'm all or nothing.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_02: So when I do randomly have those cheat meals, I'm like, I have insulin, right?
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like my insulin is supposed to help me for this, but I don't want to use 40 units of insulin a day.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I want to be able to manage it where I'm not having to use as much, you know, to do my everyday life.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_00: What I would say to that, Matt, and this is like this is the coach coming out of me.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_00: What I what I would say to that, that is amazing as long as you don't feel restrictive in how you are managing that, right?
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's what I see all the time.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, so I don't want to take as much insulin or whatever.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_00: This is the way I I, you know, really enjoy managing my diabetes, whatever, whatever it is.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then later on, they start getting creeping back up to resentment, to decision fatigue, closer to burnout, because they're making that decision because that's what they think they should be doing.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: When in essence, it doesn't matter what you consume.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: It really doesn't, in terms of the blood sugar piece.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: There's other caveats to that, right?
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: We want to make decisions that are good for our overall health, for our digestive system.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's not gonna put us in like into insulin resistance.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_00: We want to make those decisions for sure.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_00: But if I want to go have a piece of pizza, my blood sugar is not gonna stop me from going to have a pizza pizza.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_00: Having pizza, ice cream with my girls, with the kids, like whatever it is.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not doing that all the time.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: But that for me, that's when I realized that and understood how to even dose for those things, everything changed because now I didn't feel so restrictive in how I was managing the condition.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: Now I can literally make a decision and then walk away.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: Regardless of whether that decision is gonna work out the way I want to.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like it might, like I, oh should I misdosed.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like an hour later, I see my blood sugar rise.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: Crap, I missed.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't take enough.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, now I know for next time.
• 32:16
  unknown: Yeah.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_00: And that decision now becomes an afterthought.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I I wouldn't say that I'm restrictive.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like I still like we still go out and get ice cream.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I still go out and you know, have a pretzel because one of my like, I'm a huge bread fan.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: I love bread.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh yeah.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_02: So, so like, you know, going out to the to the bar and getting a pretzel and some beer cheese or something like that.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I know I I still eat some.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: I don't eat like a whole pretzel like I used to, but you know, I'll rip off a couple pieces and you know, still it's I still enjoy the good stuff.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I just I try to and do it in moderation.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like not every day, but you know, once a week, once every two weeks, you know.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: As long as you're not feeling restrictive with it.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's that that is that's I just seen it so many times, even with myself.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_00: It just it leads to burnout, and we don't we don't deserve to be in that position.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, feel confident with feel confident with all of your decisions.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: But that's all that's awesome, man.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: What do you what do you feel like has been the most impactful thing that you've learned from diabetes in the past like year and a half?
• 33:32
  SPEAKER_02: I feel like I've I've learned to listen to my body.
• 33:37
  unknown: I love it.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_02: That's all like, yeah.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like before being diagnosed, like I need a whole bag of goldfish.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like, uh, you know, I'd go, I'd go play hockey and be like, I don't know, like you know, my body's alright.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm just good.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_02: I'm it's just, you know, I'll feel better tomorrow.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then like nowadays, it's like every little thing, I'm like, oh man, like I need to listen to my body, like, okay, yeah, I did this, I don't feel right, or you know, I went and ran today and my blood sugar dropped.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you gotta listen to my body.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_02: And what also comes with that is not a hundred percent relying on your CGM.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_02: So, like, I you know, I'm sitting, you know, I have to go to the office because I work a hybrid job.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_02: And when I go there, you know, my DEXCOM says a certain number, but I'm sitting in my desk and I'm starting to like, I feel like I'm starting to sweat a little bit, and I'm like, okay, like, you know, I'm not too sure, but let me just go and take my blood real quick.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_02: And my DEXCOM ended up being like 40 points off, and I was pretty low, it was like 65 area, and I was like, oh man.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_02: So, and of course, the one day I didn't bring a sugary snack with me, so I have to walk over to one of my colleagues, and I'm like, hey, like you have a piece of candy that I can get.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like, so yeah, she ended up giving me a piece of candy, so I was like, Okay, we're good.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_02: But nowadays I'm much more prepared.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you you you know where those colleagues are where that has the candy.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_02: So this is funny.
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_02: So this is a funny story.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I was eating lunch with a couple of my colleagues the other day, and you know, I I I saw you know some videos online, and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna ask them a question.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_02: I said, guys, if you if you ever found me in a state where I'm not not unconscious, but I'm very, you know, out of it and everything, uh, what what's the first thing you would do?
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: And they said, I'd give you insulin.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, Please, I might not be here.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_02: I was like, I might not be here.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: Please don't do it.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_02: I might not be here if you do that.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_02: So so I kind of like, and it's people that I sit next to, so I'm like, I probably should have said this a lot earlier, but it just popped in my head and I told them, I was like, don't do that.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's the last thing you want to do.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_02: And it was just funny because we were laughing about it, and now we just kind of joke around.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_00: I Matt Matt, I need to say this one thing about this because this is really important, and I'm so glad that you're bringing this up.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_00: So many people that work in an office with other people or go out into the world are so scared to talk about their diabetes.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_00: They want to hide it.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: They don't tell people, they don't tell their colleagues.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that you're bringing this to the to light because every part of your if if I felt like if I'm listening to this and I felt like that, you just opened my mind to being able to say, Oh my god, it's okay.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's I should be doing this.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_00: I should be telling my colleagues so they can they can also keep me safe.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: I should be telling my colleagues because they should know.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I should be telling my close friends because they should know.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and and I think that's very important, especially like, you know, I didn't really tell people, like, you know, I you know, I don't know anyone in real life with type 1 diabetes.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't, I don't know anyone.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_02: I've never met someone before with it.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, when I when I speak to people now, like and I got on social media, like that's been a huge thing for me, being able to relate with others and have that community in a sense to kind of see what other people do, what what works for them, you know, might not work for me, but it gives me something to to like look forward to or to try out.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: And I never really used to tell people I had it.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_02: And then like one day I was just like, you know, this is who I am, like it's a part of my life now, so I'm just gonna own it.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I am, you know, I wear um a little like clip on my watch right here that says type 1 diabetes.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I am all for it.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_02: I did for my one-year anniversary, I did a run through Breakthrough T1D.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_02: And it was just a virtual run because they didn't have anything around, but I ran a 10K.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_02: I've never ran like that in my life.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm not a runner.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_02: By any means, I'm not a runner.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_02: But for my one year, I was like, you know what, I want to challenge myself.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_02: I want to prove to myself that this disease is not going to take over my life.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm going to do things still, and I'm gonna approve myself.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_02: So I trained for it for a while.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_02: I even, you know, saved up like a fundraiser a little bit.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_02: Like I had no, like, I just wanted to run in it for myself.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_02: And then talking to my wife, and she was like, you know what, you should you should really try to like just put it out there, right?
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_02: Tell your story to people, post a link on your social media or whatever you have, and just see what happens, right?
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I I did that, I made a page for it and everything, and I ended up fundraising almost$1,500, which was way more than anything I could have ever imagined.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_02: Like, like all people reaching out, people like you know, giving a link to other people and just kind of like doing a donation because you know, maybe they know somebody, or you know, maybe they care about me, or they just care about something that I'm passionate about now, which is awesome.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I I I did my 10k and man, it was the best feeling.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_02: I had so many emotions when I crossed the finish line, the my own finish line that that I made.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: But but yeah, my wife was waiting for me there at the at the end, and I just had so many emotions come over me.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_02: Like I was so proud of myself and so thankful for the people around me that you know supported me through it all.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, it was it was really awesome.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_02: That's awesome, dude.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's it's amazing when you can accomplish something like that that you don't ever really do.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like that you don't like I I I've seriously considered, I don't know if I'm ever gonna do it.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_00: I've seriously considered doing a high rocks challenge if you've if you've heard of high rox.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've I thought about doing the one in Dallas in November, but I'm like, you know, I haven't really trained at all, and I feel like I need to train more than a couple months to do that.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_00: We're at the gym I work at, we're a HIROX affiliate, so we teach HyROX classes.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_00: So I take class all the time.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm constantly like I'm I'm teach I teach once a week, I teach one of the classes once a week, and it's just it's a fascinating competition, but it's also like awful.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like I can barely get through a freaking class, let alone 10 or 8 freaking stations, along with eight times of doing 0.62 miles.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, no thank you.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I see some of the videos online about it, and I was like, wow, I could really like see myself wanting to do it.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_02: And then like I see like there's like a I guess there's like two different ones.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_02: You can do like, I guess like the average person, or you can do like the professional, like what the pros do.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and man, like they are so athletic.
• 40:42
  SPEAKER_00: And the weight that they're using, the weight that they're using too is insane.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like for the sled, for the pool, for the yeah, it's crazy.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: I thought about it.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_02: I heard that the one in Dallas is super popular, like it's super packed, so I didn't get in.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't I didn't think I submitted my information in time, unless I could still do it.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I always thought about doing it.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: I think it'd be fun, a good challenge for myself, just like the next level.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_02: Because the next level for me, like I did a 10K, the next would be a half.
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think I'd ever do a full, so I think I'm cut the line.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: Jeez, even a half, man.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_00: God, yeah.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, I I ended my 10k.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I ended my 10k feeling pretty good.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_02: Like, obviously, I was exhausted, but I was like, I think I would do a half one time in my life, but I would never do a full.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_00: You say that now though, but you did a half, now you're like, now I gotta do a full.
• 41:38
  unknown: Yeah.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Did you train for the 10K?
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, two months.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: Two months.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_02: So went from just because I just lift.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like I my cardio is playing hockey.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: So other than that, I just lift, you know, four to five days a week.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, I started it off with like just running a mile to a mile and a half to two to three to four, and you know, did like hit interval training in between, and then did more of like a slower pace thing, more like I guess rehab or recovery.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, it took, you know, we trained for because yeah, it took about two months.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would say close to two months.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: Crazy.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_02: And I did like a little over an hour.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_02: So I was very proud of myself.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, it was like a little bit more than like a it was like a ten and a half minute mile was my average.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_02: So I was very happy with that.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's good.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: That's pretty good.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: Now now you just gotta do the now you just gotta do high rocks, man.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I might think about it now.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: Just find a buddy now.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, cause if I'm gonna do it, if I actually do it, I'm gonna probably do it with like do doubles.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_00: Do it with someone.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because that means you only have to do you only have to do four stations instead of eight.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you get a little break, you know, you get a little you know, you still have to do all the runs, but you still have but you only have to do four stations.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because you do four, then your partner does four.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_02: I'll have to think and see if I can find somebody.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe my wife.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_02: Hey, there you go.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_02: There you go.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: But then she's gonna have to probably do the same weight as you on the sled and the carry and the so you might just have to do all of the weighted movements and she could do all of the conditioning movements.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: There you go.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, interesting, man.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: What what what one of my last questions I have for you is if you could if you could think of if there was like one to three pieces of advice that you could give the listeners right now that they can put into action right now that maybe worked for you or that you've seen or that you, you know, you've done, maybe haven't done.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: What what's one to three pieces of advice that you could give the listeners?
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I I wish I would have known this first one sooner.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: This is perfect.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_02: Would be celebrate the small win.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like Love it.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_02: The small, even if it's for a half a day or a full day, you've been arranged for 24 hours, like it's okay to make those feel like you won a championship.
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's not easy living with type one.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_02: I, you know, I can say that it's not easy.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: So like just celebrate the small wins.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_02: Like let them like make you feel good, you know, because that just leads you to want to do better over time.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: So that that's that's like the first thing because I I didn't do that for the longest time.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_02: And I was like, you know what?
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_02: I'm just you know, I just gotta let myself enjoy this moment.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_02: Another thing that I do a lot that I would probably tell someone new with type one or someone that has type one for a while is don't beat yourself up over the high blood sugars.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: Like we're not perfect, you know, we're humans.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_02: You know, sometimes if you're MDI like myself, I don't calculate something right.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: You know, if you're depending on technology like a pump, it might not work right.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_02: Don't get frustrated.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: Just kind of like we talked about earlier, just learn from what you know.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like you don't know what you don't know, right?
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_02: So once you learn and it happens, then you can work towards not allowing that to happen again.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I think I think that's something that I struggled with a lot because you know, I I was like, my sensors going off.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, like my endo is gonna be like, you know, what were you doing on this date at this time?
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, asking me these questions, and you know, just you know, it happens, it's life.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_02: Um then I guess the last one would be kind of like my story with my run, right?
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, don't let this disease limit you.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we are bigger than type 1 diabetes, right?
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_02: Like, we can still do everything that we want to do or you dream about doing.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_02: Push yourself.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: It might take longer to get there, but you can still get there.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_02: And that's and that's like the most important part is like you can still get there and just keep pushing yourself.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_02: And uh one day you'll realize that it, you know, all that time, you know, paid off.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_02: I love it, man.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_02: That I mean, man, yeah.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: Kudos, man.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's a that is a good place to end the conversation, man.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's a great place to end the conversation.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_00: This is Matt, this has been awesome.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for coming on.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: Give us some giving us your wisdom of a pretty new diabetic.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: I love the fact that you have a 5.9.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to hear.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_00: I bet it's gonna be better than you think.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the next one.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_00: I bet it's gonna be better than you think this next one.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: So we're all we all got you in our thoughts, and like just you know, let's go, Matt.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_02: I really appreciate you having me and giving me the opportunity to tell my story, and hopefully it it goes out and helps someone else.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: Keep uh keep getting after it on social media.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody, um, Matt's Instagram handle will be in the show notes so you can connect with him.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like I always say, when we have guests on, you have zero excuses not to connect with him because it's just a button that you have to click.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: So go on, follow his page, give him a high five, say hi to him.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the more people that we have in the back of our thought processes of, you know, what who can I reach out to when I'm having a bad day with diabetes?
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_00: Those diabetes are so important.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: And even if it isn't isn't someone that you're necessarily going to reach out to right away, paying attention and talking and communicating with other people, it that's where it's at.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: This community is insane right now.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it goes a long way.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_02: So like An said, like, please reach out.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_02: Always always available and always willing to talk.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, love it.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: Cool, man.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, thank you so much for joining us, everybody.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for listening, and I will see everybody next time.