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My grandmother ACCUSED me of stealing from her… and deliberately hid the truth! -r/AITAH | Reddit Stories | EP3045 · ok storytime

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  Speaker 1: My grandmother accused me of stealing from her and deliberately
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  Speaker 1: hid the truth. Grandma, why are you doing that? I, 42, female,
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  Speaker 1: just discovered days ago that I was the subject of
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  Speaker 1: an almost 25-year-old rumor in my family. Back then, I
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  Speaker 1: was accused of helping my mother use my grandmother's information
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  Speaker 1: to open a bill in her name. This was the
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  Speaker 1: furthest from the truth. I was 18 and living with
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  Speaker 1: my grandmother at the time due to a falling out
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  Speaker 1: that drove me from my mother's home. My mother was
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  Speaker 1: moving to another apartment and she needed to use my
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  Speaker 1: name for the bill since I would eventually live with
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  Speaker 1: her again. She informed me during a phone call that
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  Speaker 1: she had already opened the account and that the paperwork
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  Speaker 1: would be sent to my grandmother's address. Because my mother
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  Speaker 1: was afraid that the letter and paperwork would not be delivered,
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  Speaker 1: since I wasn't a permanent resident, she had the bill
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  Speaker 1: company address it as my name, CO grandmother's name. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, this comes from Adorable Poem 919. If you
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  Speaker 3: I'm Sophia.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to read this story and give our
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  Speaker 1: little goofy bits of advice. If we can, we don't
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  Speaker 1: know everything, but let us know what you know down
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  Speaker 1: in the comments. And Opie says, When I returned to
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  Speaker 1: my grandmother's house after going to classes that day, she
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  Speaker 1: was livid and confronted me with the letter. She truly
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  Speaker 1: berated the bejesus out of me and accused me of
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  Speaker 1: stealing her information to give to my mother to open
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  Speaker 1: a bill in her name. When I defended myself and
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  Speaker 1: pointed out that her name was only on the address
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  Speaker 1: slip and not the bill, She wasn't trying to hear that.
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  Speaker 1: She wholeheartedly believed that C-O meant co-owner. I pointed out
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  Speaker 1: that it meant care of, and that the actual account
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  Speaker 1: and bill had nothing to do with her. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was the end of it. I did nothing wrong,
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  Speaker 1: so I moved on, in spite of my grandmother being
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  Speaker 1: less than nice to me for a few years after that.
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  Speaker 3: If my grandma is, like, mean to me for a
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  Speaker 3: few years after she accuses me of theft... I am
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  Speaker 3: figuring that out with her.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like breaking it down. I'm like, Grandma, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to learn how bills work today.
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  Speaker 3: Grandma, do you want to call the bank with me?
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  Speaker 1: The envelope that the bill comes in is not the bill.
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  Speaker 1: What are we talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Grandma's a little silly.
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  Speaker 1: Fast forward to 2026. My daughter just graduated high school
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  Speaker 1: and I visited my grandmother to show her pictures of
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  Speaker 1: the ceremony. She then began to compliment me on the
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  Speaker 1: life I've built and the kind of mother I am,
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  Speaker 1: but followed it up with, even though you and your
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  Speaker 1: mother did what y'all did behind my back. I was floored.
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about that in years because I thought
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  Speaker 1: proving my innocence was the end of it. She had
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  Speaker 1: carried that all these years, and the undercurrent of our
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  Speaker 1: relationship made sense in that moment. I once again defended
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  Speaker 1: myself and cut the visit short. I reached out to
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  Speaker 1: my stepmother to confirm whether this was something that got
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  Speaker 1: around to the family, and she confirmed that it did,
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  Speaker 1: and that they believed I was guilty, even admitting that
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  Speaker 1: she initially thought so as well until she spent more
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  Speaker 1: time with me and realized that I'm not the type
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  Speaker 1: of person who would defraud anyone, let alone my own grandmother.
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  Speaker 1: She informed me that my father was the only one
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  Speaker 1: to defend me and that he never believed I did it.
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  Speaker 1: She also said that my grandmother never produced the address
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  Speaker 1: page of the letter listing me as the account holder,
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  Speaker 1: but only the welcome letter that contained my mother's new
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  Speaker 1: address without any names. So this was deliberate. And your
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  Speaker 1: whole family doesn't know how bills work?
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  Speaker 3: I don't, well, I think, I don't know. It seems
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  Speaker 3: like grandma kind of misled people, didn't give all the information,
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  Speaker 3: but like none of them asked you anything. None of
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  Speaker 3: them were like, grandma, do you think this would be
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  Speaker 3: something else? Did you get a charge? Can we help
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  Speaker 3: you grandma figure this out?
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  Speaker 1: The evidence that grandma showed was just like, not a bill.
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  Speaker 3: See, all these people are stupid.
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  Speaker 1: Devastated was an understatement. The disconnect between myself and the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the family not being included in any family
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  Speaker 1: activities outside of the functions at my father's house and
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  Speaker 1: feeling like an outsider. It wasn't a matter of distance
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  Speaker 1: or life taking us in different directions. They thought I
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  Speaker 1: tried to defraud my grandmother. For four days, I was
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  Speaker 1: in a spiral. I couldn't stop crying, I couldn't eat,
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  Speaker 1: and I barely slept while having to save face for
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  Speaker 1: my daughter's graduation party. After the party, I spoke to
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  Speaker 1: two cousins who showed up to see where they stood
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  Speaker 1: with me and to clear my name with them. I
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  Speaker 1: found out that they knew what happened, but never believed
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  Speaker 1: I did it. I also learned that all these years later,
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  Speaker 1: when my name is brought up in my absence, she
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  Speaker 1: will compliment me, but end it with, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: forget what she and her mother did. After that, I
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  Speaker 1: was ready to confront her and put this issue to
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  Speaker 1: bed once and for all. Yeah, put grandma to bed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, grandma, you gotta stop it.
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  Speaker 1: Go sleep. I was not disrespectful, but I was not nice.
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  Speaker 1: And I was very emotional when I pleaded for the
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  Speaker 1: final time, that I would never hurt her like that
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  Speaker 1: and defraud her. She responded by gaslighting me, saying, I
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  Speaker 1: never said that. She had literally said it to my face,
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  Speaker 1: and I reminded her of that. Then she tried to
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  Speaker 1: blame it all on my mother. I shut that down too,
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  Speaker 1: because while my mother used my name, she did not
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  Speaker 1: defraud this woman either. Then it reverted to the original
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  Speaker 1: accusation again, and that's when I may have gone wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I lost it. I raised my voice and told her
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  Speaker 1: to stop saying that about me. Respect went out the
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  Speaker 1: window and I unloaded on her, letting her know that
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  Speaker 1: what this has done to me and the ripple effect
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  Speaker 1: it has had on my younger cousins. She then said
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  Speaker 1: she had the bill to prove it.
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  Speaker 3: Please. Oh my goodness. Oh, that would make me so happy.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be like, thank God you kept it. Yes, you
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  Speaker 3: kept it. Let's show everyone.
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  Speaker 1: Bring it out.
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  Speaker 3: Let's show everyone. I'm going to throw a party and
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  Speaker 3: we're going to bring the bill and the bill's going
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  Speaker 3: to be passed around the whole party.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be like when the Queen of England
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  Speaker 1: bit the dust and everybody walked past the cab. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to show it to every last person. I was there.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to have a beautiful showing. I called her
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  Speaker 1: bluff and let her know I'd like to see it.
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  Speaker 1: She shut it down. And the conversation just kept going
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  Speaker 1: in circles, cycling from, I never said that. I never
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  Speaker 1: thought that, to, well, how did your mother get my
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  Speaker 1: info if you didn't give it to her? The bill
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  Speaker 1: was never in her name, and I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: many times I have to reiterate it. I disengaged, told
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  Speaker 1: her I loved her, and walked out on her against
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  Speaker 1: her protests and her wanting me to hug her before
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  Speaker 1: I left.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: I said, Grandma, I'll hug you. Go get the bill.
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  Speaker 1: Go get the bill you have.
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  Speaker 3: Go get the bill, and I'll give you a hug.
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  Speaker 3: Get the bill.
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  Speaker 1: Because the bill's gonna prove you're not on the frickin' account.
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  Speaker 3: Bill's gonna prove that you're crazy.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a crazy nonsense thing to hold on to
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  Speaker 1: for 25 years.
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  Speaker 3: 20 years.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean?
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  Speaker 1: I feel terrible. She's elderly, and in spite of being
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  Speaker 1: so hurt and angry, it doesn't serve me to hurt
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  Speaker 1: her feelings. But apparently, I've declared war by telling the truth.
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  Speaker 1: My truth. Am I the a-hole for not allowing her
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  Speaker 1: to further accuse and manipulate me simply because she's her
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  Speaker 1: age and I should just let her have this? Would
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  Speaker 1: I be the a-hole if I kept my distance for good?
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  Speaker 1: I never want to feel this way ever again in life.
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  Speaker 1: I would say no.
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  Speaker 3: You're 0% the a-hole here. Just not at all. So
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  Speaker 3: far from being the a-hole, you're... Your grandma's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Like those... Does your mom somehow have records of the
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  Speaker 1: bills that she paid 25 years ago?
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  Speaker 3: I am hopefully trying to find this bill and then
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  Speaker 3: taking a picture of it and then creating a group
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  Speaker 3: chat with everyone in the family and then sending it
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  Speaker 3: out and also calling, I don't know, a bank saying, hey,
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  Speaker 3: can you explain this bill? And then I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: copy that over.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just ridiculous. Like, I don't think I could...
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  Speaker 1: bring myself to leave until it was just broken down
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  Speaker 1: into like the smallest, like quantum particles possible. I'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to, so how much money did you end
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  Speaker 1: up paying for this bill? How many times were you charged? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So that's a zero. All right. We're made. Okay. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it seems that grandma thinks, oh, well they tried
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  Speaker 3: to defraud me. So she thinks, oh, well they didn't
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  Speaker 3: succeed because I caught them. And it's like, then what
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  Speaker 3: do you think that we did? How exactly did we
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  Speaker 3: try to defraud you?
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  Speaker 1: How would that even work? I don't know. You would
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  Speaker 1: just get a bill and then you'd be like, what
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  Speaker 1: is this?
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  Speaker 3: Crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. There's an edit. Man, oh man,
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  Speaker 1: this blew up almost immediately. While I'm not in the
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  Speaker 1: same headspace that I was last week, it's still very
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  Speaker 1: raw and I didn't want to make any knee-jerk decisions,
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  Speaker 1: which is why I wanted unbiased opinions from people who
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  Speaker 1: know none of us. And y'all certainly delivered. I will
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  Speaker 1: be keeping my distance. From my grandmother and anyone else
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  Speaker 1: who continues to believe the worst about me, so far
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  Speaker 1: it's quiet and I hope it stays that way. To
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  Speaker 1: answer a question I saw a few times, unfortunately there
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  Speaker 1: is no way to access the bill online or get
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  Speaker 1: a hard copy. I called the company when I was
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  Speaker 1: looking for ways to further prove my innocence, and after
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  Speaker 1: the agent was done chuckling when I said the bill
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  Speaker 1: was from 2008, 2002 i was told that the furthest
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  Speaker 1: they can go back for an old bill is seven
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  Speaker 1: years thanks again for all of your kind words and
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  Speaker 1: for the comments that deliver a hard dose of reality
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  Speaker 1: while still acknowledging that this was wrong and that is
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  Speaker 1: the end of that.
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  Speaker 3: Story i mean yeah all you can do is cut
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  Speaker 3: off the people that Did not care to ask you
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  Speaker 3: the truth. And your grandma, who actively is spreading lies.
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  Speaker 1: For 20 plus years. 20 years. Every single thing she
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  Speaker 1: said about you was like, oh, she's so great, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 1: Except for that one time where she was the worst
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  Speaker 1: person ever and everyone needs to remember. You did such
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  Speaker 1: a good job raising your daughter despite all that you
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  Speaker 1: tried to do to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, grandma, I hope you have fun in the home
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  Speaker 3: that no one's going to visit you at. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently, everybody who thinks OP's a fraudster will be right there.
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  Speaker 4: Crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And they can all be miserable together.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so wild that nobody in 20 years went, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's this thing grandma keeps talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Especially the cousins who supposedly were like, oh, we never believed.
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  Speaker 3: We never believed it. If you never believed it, why
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  Speaker 3: didn't you go to OP and be like, hey, grandma's
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  Speaker 3: been spreading lies about you for 20 years.
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  Speaker 1: Well, because it hadn't been 20 years yet.
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  Speaker 3: That's true.
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  Speaker 5: They had to wait.
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  Speaker 3: They had to wait for the 20 year.
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  Speaker 1: They had to wait it out. But that is the
• 11:24
  Speaker 1: end of that story. We've got another one.
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  Speaker 3: My niece's online boyfriend wanted to fly her out, so
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  Speaker 3: I investigated.
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  Speaker 1: Hmm. Put on the little fedora. Get your magnifying glass.
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  Speaker 3: My niece, who is 24, shared at a recent family
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  Speaker 3: gathering that she's been dating a guy long distance for
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  Speaker 3: a few months and that he plans to fly her
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  Speaker 3: out to spend some time together. After she explained the situation,
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  Speaker 3: there were a ton of red flags and I warned
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  Speaker 3: her not to go. Now my sister, her mother is
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  Speaker 3: telling me to mind my business and said I'm ruining
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  Speaker 3: a potentially wonderful relationship. Here's where I'm concerned. They met
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  Speaker 3: online and have never met in person. They FaceTime and text,
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  Speaker 3: but he's always in his car or out. Never at
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  Speaker 3: his home. He's 32. He wants to fly her out
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  Speaker 3: from New England to Portland, Oregon tomorrow. and plans to
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  Speaker 3: stay in a hotel for the trip because he has roommates.
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  Speaker 3: He said he can't fly out to meet her because
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  Speaker 3: he's got a lot of commitments. To me, this sounds
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  Speaker 3: like a guy who's either married or at least has
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  Speaker 3: something weird going on. Seems like a really bad idea
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  Speaker 3: for her to go out there. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 3: I'm personally 99.9% against a girl letting a guy she
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  Speaker 3: met online fly her anywhere, which might be an outdated viewpoint. No,
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  Speaker 3: that's just smart. If a guy can't find somebody in
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  Speaker 3: his city or area to date, there's a good reason
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  Speaker 3: for it. There might be some very rare case where
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  Speaker 3: you bond over a unique hobby or interest, but just
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: generally dating somebody long distance from day one is a
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  Speaker 3: concern to me. My sister chatted with him a couple
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  Speaker 3: of times and said he seems nice, but it's easy
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  Speaker 3: to seem nice from the other side of the country
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  Speaker 3: when you can hide any flaws. By the way, this
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  Speaker 3: comes from Essence of Llama 81, and if you want
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  Speaker 3: to submit your own stories, go to the r slash
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  Speaker 3: showcase story time subreddit. I'm Sophia.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Dakota.
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  Speaker 3: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
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  Speaker 3: don't have all the answers. We only know what we do.
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  Speaker 3: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
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  Speaker 3: And OP says, Am I wrong to think this older
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  Speaker 3: guy flying her out to a hotel is suspicious? Or
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  Speaker 3: am I just an old fart who needs to adapt
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  Speaker 3: to the times? And there is an edit, but what
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  Speaker 3: do you... think Dakota I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's very clearly like a sketchy situation yes like
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you one thing the people I know that
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  Speaker 1: it worked out he was not always in his car
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  Speaker 1: he was like it was very very transparent and clear
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  Speaker 1: the whole time yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that is not what's happening here edit thanks for
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  Speaker 3: the feedback and assurance that I'm not completely crazy here
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  Speaker 3: I had a good conversation with my niece this evening
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  Speaker 3: I told her she should verify some information first and
• 14:04
  Speaker 3: asks some of the questions y'all shared here. She still
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  Speaker 3: thinks I'm being paranoid, but she's agreed to at least
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  Speaker 3: ask to chat with his roommates a bit and ask
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  Speaker 3: for some other details that she can verify on her own. Okay, progress, cool,
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  Speaker 3: love that.
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  Speaker 1: We're getting there. We're kind of starting to scratch the
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  Speaker 1: surface of things here.
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  Speaker 3: Also, for the folks telling me to mind my business
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  Speaker 3: or similar, I know your heart is in the right place,
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  Speaker 3: but my niece regularly asks me for advice, and this
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  Speaker 3: wasn't unsolicited feedback to her.
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  Speaker 1: Mind your own business. Let your sister get flown out
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  Speaker 1: all the way across the country to a married man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a strange thing to encourage.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, likely married.
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes. My sister and I are very close, and
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  Speaker 3: we're also very close with each other's kids. We live
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: near each other and have dinner as a big group
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  Speaker 3: with our spouses and kids a few times a month.
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  Speaker 3: And we do have an update. Heads or tails? Married
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  Speaker 3: or not?
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  Speaker 1: Can both of them be married? This guy's so married.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's so got something going on.
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  Speaker 3: This guy's married.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's got a very big secret of some kind. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And you shouldn't go fly out to see him.
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  Speaker 1: Update! Update!
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  Speaker 3: My niece followed my advice and insisted on talking with
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  Speaker 3: her boyfriend's roommates and getting some more information about him
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  Speaker 3: that she could verify on her own. She also searched
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: lots of, are we dating the same guy groups? After
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks of back and forth, it turns
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  Speaker 3: out he was hiding a bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: What? All right, all right, a bunch of stuff. So
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  Speaker 1: it's more than just a wife. What else is he hiding?
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  Speaker 1: He lives with his grandma and he's unemployed. He's divorced.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: He's hiding from the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: He's hiding from the FBI.
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  Speaker 3: In Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: In Portland, Oregon.
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  Speaker 3: As many people pointed out, it was a bit odd
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  Speaker 3: for a 32-year-old guy who has a career living with roommates.
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  Speaker 3: It turns out that he was actually living with his parents.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh. Almost, almost.
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  Speaker 3: Grandma, grandma, similar. And his financial situation was not great.
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  Speaker 3: He got a divorce two years ago.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'm still on it.
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  Speaker 3: He had to move in with his parents and has
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  Speaker 3: been struggling to find consistent work since. He apparently also
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: has a son. I knew it. He did not tell
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: my niece about because he's not really a part of
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: his son's life anymore. That's an even bigger red flag.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just didn't want to tell you I have
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: an actual child because I didn't think that was relevant information.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: We don't really hang out.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: He's not chill like that anymore, so I don't see him.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: He's not really important.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Needless to say, my niece is breaking up with him.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Smart.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: I think she would have been okay with him living
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: with his parents, but the dishonesty about his situation and
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: being a parent was too much. My niece is having
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: a tough time with it right now, but I hope
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: it's for the best in the long run.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It one trillion percent is.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I can tell you without a doubt, without even knowing
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: any of you as people or personally, yes.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it have been great if like, Hope his niece
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: had like a brother that could have just flown out
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: there instead.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Catfish, double catfish.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Double catfish moment is beautiful. I would love that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm, you know, I'm glad the truth came to light.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Not married though. Yeah, divorce. Honestly, I was really close.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: I thought that would be the case, but it wasn't.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: It was giving me, I was feeling like a little
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: inkling of like, oh, this is like shame. Shame? It's
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: more like, it's not like he's like, hiding a wife
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and a family it's like he's hiding that he's just
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: like he's a what he's a.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: What he's a bit of a loser just a.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Little bit he's on a down let's go let's go let's.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Say he's on a down spiral oh yeah sure either
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: were there's a little bit left my sister and i
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: also had some good discussions and she sees my point
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: of view a bit more My daughter is on the
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: West Coast for an internship, so my wife and I
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: plan to bring my sister and my niece with us
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: to go visit her. It won't make up for the breakup,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: but at least it's a fun trip away from home.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Even though I was right to be suspicious here, I'm
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: also rethinking my opinions on long-distance relationships based on some
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: of the positive comments on my last post. And edit,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: I find it kind of funny that everyone assumes I'm
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: an aunt. I'm an uncle, but I'll take the fact
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: that I give aunt vibes as a compliment. And that's
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: the end of the story. Yeah, you're a cool aunt,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: but you're actually an uncle.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Cunkle.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: But that's the end of that one. And we got
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: another one coming right up.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: My parents laughed when I said I felt replaced, then
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: gave my room away.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, loser alert. That's your parents.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Are your parents cartoon villains? When I, 21 male, was nine,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: my parents, 51 male and female, took in a seven-year-old
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: kid as a foster kid, though not officially. My mom
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: worked with his mom. His mom had several issues, and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: she could no longer take care of him. After me,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: my parents weren't able to have more kids, so my
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: parents were willing to take him in. The whole thing sucked,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: to be honest. My parents told me I could either
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: share my bedroom with him, or I would need to
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: move into the smaller room, but I would get a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: new bed of my choice. When I asked why he
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: got my room, regardless... They said he deserved a little
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: spoiling because he had been through a lot. I chose
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to move rooms, which my parents weren't thrilled about. And
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: they asked me why I wouldn't want to share with
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: my new BFF and brother from the jump. They said
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: he was going to be my brother now. And a
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: lot of our interactions over the next few months were
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: about that. My parents moved me out of my old
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: room and they redecorated it for him. And when he
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: moved in, I was supposed to be two weeks away
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: from getting my new bed. But then my parents found
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: out there were things he never had. And so they
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: told me the new bed was going to be delayed
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: so they could buy him toys and other stuff he
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: never had. Where are you sleeping?
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Do you have a bed?
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: What is going on?
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Do you have a bed?
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from Throwaway Mindlow. And if
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you want to submit your own stories, go to the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: r slash OK Storytime subreddit. I'm Dakota.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I'm Sophia.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: We're going to read this race car bed story and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: we are going to have our thoughts. You get to
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: have your own down in the comments. We could read them,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: maybe put them in a video in the future. Wow.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: But just remember, we don't know everything. Opie says, I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: never got the new bed and I resented that. My
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: dad also stopped cooking my favorite dinner because the new
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: kid didn't like it. and they instead added his favorite
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: meal to dinner rotation, which I didn't like. They would
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: get annoyed at me for not eating it. But the
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: whole dish was mushrooms and mushroom sauce with pasta and fish.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I hate mushrooms and always have, and my parents knew.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: They always took the mushroom element out of my food
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: before he moved in. Every weekend after he moved in,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: we did family stuff chosen by the kid they took in.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I never had fun doing the stuff he picked, and
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: my parents started to get mad at me for having
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: an attitude and making it obvious I didn't want to go.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: When I told them it was always what he wanted
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to do, they said it was only temporary so they
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: could make him feel welcome and wanted. My mom extended
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: her work hours after they took him in so we
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: had more money. This meant neither parent had the same
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: time as before, and when it came time to show
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: up to activities for us, they always chose to show
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: up for him, and they dragged me along when they could.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I had nobody at mine. I also had to listen
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to my extended family talk nonstop about the new kid.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: They would ask me if I was excited to have
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: a brother and they tried to make me talk about
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: it in a positive way or I guess a happy way.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Nobody asked about me anymore. After a little more than
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: a year, I broke down in front of my parents
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: about it. They laughed and told me I was being
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: silly and he wasn't being favoritive. He was just getting
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: caught up for lost time and that I needed to
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: understand that their time was going to be split between
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: us From now on.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I have no words for how. Just like, just a whiff.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Just the hardest swing you've ever seen and it is
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: just all air. They are fully missing the point here. Wow. Wow.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: They keep getting worse.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And they're probably just walking around like, ah, we're doing
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: nothing wrong. We're absolved because we're doing this great thing.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: We're doing this great virtuous thing.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: We're doing such a great deed. It doesn't matter if
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: our son doesn't understand. He's just being a silly kid.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: You took in a neglected child by neglecting your child.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: That's when I found out the adoption was going to
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: happen soon, which turned out to be three months later.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: It's also when they couldn't tell me when or how
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'd get time with them again. They just found it
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: really funny how I responded. So I started doing stuff
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: without asking and they didn't notice. I played outside until late,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: then went to friends' houses and stayed late at activities.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: My parents didn't notice or say anything. So I started
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: leaving when we were meant to go see the extended family.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I was supposed to be ready and in the car
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: the day the adoption was finalized and I didn't go.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I went to my friend's house instead and they only
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: noticed when the judge asked about a photo with the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: immediate family and wondered where the brother was. They got
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: to the court? Yeah. And in front of the judge?
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Before they noticed you weren't there? I can't even believe that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: They're like, oh, where is he? And the judge is like, well,
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not letting you adopt this child if you don't
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: know where the other one is. Clearly, you don't know
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: how to do the parenting thing.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: He's around, Your Honor.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: He loves hiding in little cracks and crevices.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: They pull the home alone thing. They're like, shoot. Oh, man.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: He's ruining Christmas.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: He's ruining Christmas for everybody. They yelled at me when
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I got home that night and we argued. But after that,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: they didn't notice when I made myself gone for stuff.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: It took a few years. I was 17. I guess
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: some comments were made between different family members and my
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: parents and they were all like, what the F? I
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: was confronted and I told them I chose to avoid
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: spending time with them. As a family, since all they
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: ever cared to talk about was the new kid, and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I was tired of talking about him. It brought up
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the adoption day, and I told them it wasn't something
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I was celebrating, so I wasn't about to go. They
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: said it was like I didn't want my brother, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I told them, he's not my brother.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: So valid. Big valid crash out right there.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: It's like you didn't want your brother. We're making progress!
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding!
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I would have much rather not had the random stranger
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: in my house become my brother that you prioritized over me.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: This feels like... This feels exactly like the plot of
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Stuart Little.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Is this kid a mouse?
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Is this kid a mouse? Did you give him a
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: race car to drive around?
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: But Johnny Galecki got along with that kid.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, it's true.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I mean... Him and Stuart were thick as thieves.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: They were.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: They were.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: This is like Stuart Little if the kid didn't like
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: his brother. This is more realistic Stuart Little.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: This is Stuart. Stuart real. Stuart big facts. They said
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: it's not like I didn't want my brother. I told
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: him he's not my brother. I told them he's the
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: kid that came in and replaced me. True. Everyone tried
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to tell me it wasn't true, but I pointed out
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: all the stuff and there's more than I could mention here.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, I.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: This is crazy. This is absolutely mind boggling that this
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: is the first time that they're even seemingly listening to you.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Like, I can't believe you broke down in front of
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: your parents at 10. They just thought it was like.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: And they treated it like it was a cute little thing,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like a little tantrum. I don't think they laughed
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: in the way where it was like, ha ha.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: No.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: It was like, aw, look at our little kitty. He's
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: so cute.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: He's so jealous of his little brother.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: And it's like, that should have been like five alarm
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: bell just being like, oh, we need some therapy. We
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: need to all get on the same page here because
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: our child thinks he's being muscled out. And then you
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: kind of maybe did that for- Seven years.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: From the sounds of it. I don't know.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, he was being muscled out.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: At 18, I went to live with my best friend
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: and I have been no contact with them since. They
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: were angry with me for not getting over myself and
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: joining back in with stuff when they realized and told
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: me they loved me and wanted me there. But going
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: no contact eventually felt final enough that they are now
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: reaching out on social media and through email. I haven't
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: replied yet and I don't know if I should. I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: don't want to reconcile. I have a family now through
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: my best friend. They have a family through the kid
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: they adopted. My therapist helped me write out a response
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to them if I decided to send one, but I'm
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: not sure yet if I want to or not, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for advice to see what people think. I mean, honestly,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I think you should attempt to get to a place
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: where you can express everything that you just said in
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the way where it's like, this is how I felt
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: growing up, so that they can reckon with oh, wow,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: we really actually did fail our son. Yeah. Even though
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: we did this virtuous thing by taking in this kid whose,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: you know, family had a lot of problems and, like,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: mom couldn't take care of him, had to give him up.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: You sacrificed your son.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of ended up creating that similar scenario,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I think that's an excellent idea. I think even you
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: could write it.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: And send it to them or write it and, like,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Read it to them, something like that, and then completely
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: cut them off.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Just so you have that moment of just release.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I think if you've already got the letter cooked up
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: with your therapist, I think you should give it to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: them for sure. Just because they got to know. They
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: got to.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: They suck so bad.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: And then, you know, if they just completely disregard it
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and think you're full of yourself, whatever. You just keep
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: on keeping on. Like you said, you've got a family now.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you know, in your best friend. But that is the
• 28:49
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• 28:52
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• 28:54
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• 28:58
  Speaker 3: We let my sister-in-law live rent-free and she broke every
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: rule we set.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Well, you should make a new rule. Don't pay rent.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: This starts in a really fun way. Me, white, 22 female. Husband, white,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: 25 male. Sister-in-law, black, 23 female. Races are important to
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: the story. Around January, my husband's brother and his wife
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: decided to get a divorce. It's been an incredibly awkward
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: and difficult process, especially since they have twin boys who
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: just turned one in May. My husband's entire family sided
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: with his brother so we extended an offer to my
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: sister-in-law to come live with us for a while until
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: she can get back on her feet as she's been
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: unemployed since having the twins for the sake of accuracy
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: her mother also decided to come live with us to
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: help her out we gave them our entire basement so
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: they could truly have their own space our basement is
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: fully finished and is probably around 1000 square feet We
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: also bought and lent them a few odds and ends
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: to help them get comfortable, including mattresses and clothing storage.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: There's already a couch, coffee table, mini fridge, and full
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: bathroom down there as well. When she moved in during mid-January,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: we only had one rule. We were okay with her staying...
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: as long as she was either going to school, taking
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: a course to help her get a job, or finding
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: work in her original field so she could start saving
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: money to get her own place. By the way, this
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: comes from Anonymous Mushroom, and if you want to submit
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: your own stories, go to the r slash okay story
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: time subreddit. I'm Sophia.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Who is that mushroom? I'm Dakota.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: We don't know, but we do know that we don't
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: know everything. All we know is that we're going to
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: give advice and give it goofily. But if you know
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: anything else, put it in the comments. OP says, Months
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: went by and my husband and I started noticing that
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: she didn't seem to be working toward any of those things.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Even on weekends when the twins' father would take the boys,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: she wasn't making progress. Instead, during those first few months,
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: she told me she had downloaded dating apps and we'd
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: see her disappear every weekend to go on dates with
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: different guys. Eventually, there was Buford. To briefly summarize the
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: important information, Buford is a non-blood related cousin on my
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: husband's sister's side of the family. Sister-in-law had previously slept
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: with him after her husband gave her permission to sleep
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: with someone else as a way of getting even because
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: he had cheated on her. My husband and I didn't
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: really mind Buford coming over because sister-in-law would usually ask
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: permission beforehand and he seemed like an overall decent guy.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Things started becoming uncomfortable though because since the first time
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: he came over, They have gotten together and broken up
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: about three times.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, Buford. Well, you know what they say. Fourth time's
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the charm.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: Buforth times the charm. Now we've reached a point where
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: we get maybe an hour's warning that he's coming over,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: and we never know whether he's staying the night or not.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: This is especially frustrating for my husband because he's very
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: particular about making sure the house is locked up at night.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: About half the times, they don't lock the doors behind
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: them when coming and going, despite having a key and
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: knowing the garage code. Not only has she developed this
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: habit with Beaufort, but there have been also multiple occasions
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: where she's had other friends over who ended up staying
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: the night without asking us first. We've also noticed issues
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: with cleanliness in the shared spaces. She'll leave dirty pots
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: and pans on the stove and food sitting out on
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: the counters. After the twins eat, crumbs and bits of
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: food sometimes get left on the kitchen floor, and most
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: of the time I end up sweeping it up myself
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: and wiping down the highchairs. Over the last couple of months,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: we've tried casually mentioning job listings and opportunities that would
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: fit her schedule. Most of the time she acts interested,
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: but nothing ever comes of it. Now everyone should know
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: that I make my money as a phone spicy sleep operator.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: I've been doing it for the past couple of months
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: because things have gotten more expensive with two additional adults
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: living in the house and sharing food, toiletries, water, and
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: other household expenses. I'm not judging you for this. You
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: can do whatever you would like. However, it is a
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: little bit insane to me that presumably expenses have gotten
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: so tight because of the people that are living in
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: your house that shouldn't be living there and should get
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: a job. So instead of kicking them out of the house,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: you're like, the only possible solution here is that I
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: do phone spicy sleep.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Is that if I get another job.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Yes. My other job.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: Have we thought about maybe training the woman in our
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: basement just so she can get back on her feet? Anything. Anything.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: What if we give her that job? I don't know.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: This is a little crazy.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're really, you know, particular about who comes,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: as long as they got the voice for it, you know?
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: If you were like, oh, I just like doing this.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: This is my job. Excellent. Love that. However, why did
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: we do this in place of her getting a job
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: or kicking her out?
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: It's really the insanity just comes from you getting this
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: job to provide for the unemployed people living in your basement.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: And Buford?
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: And Buford.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: A couple of weeks ago, sister-in-law came to me and
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: said she wanted to do the same kind of work.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: Okay. All right.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: You were right.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Wait, what?
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: You are going to train her.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: And asked me to help her get started. Well, maybe
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: this was OP's plan all along.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: This was all we could have never seen. We're just
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: puppets dancing to OP's strings.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: The issue was that she wanted to use one of
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: our spare rooms upstairs so she wouldn't disturb her boys.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: The problem is that the upstairs rooms are my husband's office,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: the cat room, which is where I work and where
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: we keep litter boxes and cat trees because we have
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of cats, and the room we're currently turning
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: into a nursery because we're trying for a baby. My
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: husband's office is directly above our bedroom, and the thought
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: of hearing sister-in-law on the types of calls that the
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: job requires made both of us extremely uncomfortable. I... Don't
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: understand what's going on in this house.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they are like one, they're not going
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to remember. They're not going to know what's going on.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: That's terrible. Is it?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: How terrible is it really? On a real level. I'm
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: not even trying to say it's not terrible. I just
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: have no frame of reference to understand how damaging this
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: could be to the infant mind.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Pretty damaging.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: One?
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: What do you remember from one? Everything. Because of that,
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: we told her that if she wanted to do that
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: kind of work, she'd need to use one of the
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: rooms downstairs. Those rooms are the storage room and the
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: utility room. You have a storage and utility room? They
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: would obviously need a little work, but both would function
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: perfectly fine for that type of job. One room is
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: fully concrete, and the other has concrete floors with unfinished walls,
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: but both have lights and electrical outlets. Realistically, they just
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: need a rug and a chair. She got upset when
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I told her this and said she was uncomfortable here
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: anyway and was going to move in with her grandmother.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, perfect.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, this solves everything.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I'd be so annoyed. So unbelievably annoyed. After all this
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: time you've been here for free. Now it's like, I'm like, oh,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: you can do your like spicy phone call work in
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: this perfectly fine room in the basement. You're like, I'm
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable here anyway.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: This place sucks.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I'm moving with my grandma.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess Opie did get a second job for her.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I literally started doing this for you. Why didn't
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: you move in with your grandma the whole time?
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: I told her I didn't mean to make her feel
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: that way and that she was still more than welcome
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: to stay.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Why? Because Opie is too nice.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: We didn't discuss it again until yesterday, roughly two or
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: three weeks after that interaction. I received a text from
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: her saying that the vibes were off and that she
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: would be moving out within the next week. I asked
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: if there was anything specific that had made her feel
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: that way. and she brought up an incident from early May.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: I had asked her if I could have the house
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: to myself for a few hours because I was hosting
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: my family, including my grandmother. The reason I asked was
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: because my grandmother didn't know we had anyone living with us,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: and it would have been difficult to explain the entire situation.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: She's nearly 80 years old and doesn't retain information as
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: well as she used to. At the time, sister-in-law insisted
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: it was completely fine. However, yesterday, she told me it
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: had hurt her feelings more than she originally thought. She
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: said she felt like I wanted her to leave because
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: my family has issues with her race. That was kind
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: of what we thought.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, we're kind of primed to think that
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: because you said at the beginning that this is important. But, like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: not being able to explain a very simple concept to
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: your grandma does raise a little bit of suspicion.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: She also said it hurt because she felt I was
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: ignoring that possibility despite being someone who was usually very
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: outspoken against racism. She also said she felt forced to
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: stay out all day with the twins. It's worth noting
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: that the gathering only lasted about three hours and I
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: texted her as soon as it was over. She stayed
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: out much later than the time I had messaged her.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so really no concrete evidence of anything for sure
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: except that this lady really is struggling getting a job.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I will say, Opie, it seems like you're bad at
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: talking and communicating with people in most ways. Except for
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: your job, which it seems like you do well in.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, I mean, maybe, maybe this is just
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: someone who's not very receptive to communication. I can't imagine.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Having a house and a family i mean oh i
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: guess op doesn't have kids but she's trying for yeah
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: exactly and then like she's living in the basement we're
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: just like we're just till you get on your feet
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: right we're gonna help you get a job blah blah
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: she's just going on dates and bringing home like weird
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: exes she like that her cousin also but not by
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: blood that she consensually cheated on her ex-husband with because
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: it was a hall pass and they're breaking up all
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the time and it's like you're living in my basement
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: bro get a job please get a job move out
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: oh my god get out of here yeah like oh.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: The site so op is complaining and And then says,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I got a second job. And then when the moment
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: arises where this girl comes up to her and says,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I'm leaving. She's like, no.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, honestly, at this point, I'm like, yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: my grandma is right. You should move. That's what happened.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: That's what happened. Guess you're going to have to go. Bye.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: You nailed it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Like, oops.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Opie continues, I honestly didn't know what to say besides
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: assuring her that race had absolutely nothing to do with
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: it and apologizing for hurting her feelings. My husband thinks
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't be the one apologizing because they've been living
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: with us for free while using our utilities and eating
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: food we purchased. But she was my friend before all
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: of this happened. And I guess it hurts to feel
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: like that friendship is ending simply because I'm trying to
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: establish boundaries in my own home. Am I wrong for
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: trying to set these boundaries? You are not setting these boundaries.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: You've set zero boundaries.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I'm actually so livid right now because that entire story...
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: I just assumed there had to be some level of
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: bills they were paying. I know OP said they weren't
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: paying rent, but the fact that they've eaten all of
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: your groceries and not paid anything towards the utility bill
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: or paid any rent the entire time and then have
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: the nerve to say the vibe is off and I'm
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable here moving in with my grandma.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: To the point where OP had to get another job. Yeah,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: that's whack. But that's also the end of that story.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Don't do this, guys. Moral of the story, have a backbone.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: And let us know if it is morally gray or
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: black or white to do spicy sleep phone calls like
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: in the general area of your one-ish year old twins.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Not even. What, like six months? How old? One year old. Okay,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: they're one years old.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: For the record, there is no us. This is just
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: a Dakota question.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: This isn't, I'm not, it's not a question. I'm more
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: just like, I just want to get a temperature check. Like,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you know, like.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Temperature check for Dakota.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Temp check on like, How much damage would that do
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to a child? What does more damage, like having no income,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: being unemployed, and having no place to live, or being
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: exposed to that for three months when you're one years old?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Dakota's looking into getting into this work, and he's also
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: taking care of two twin kids.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Look, I think probably bringing Buford around is more damaging
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: than that.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Buford, in and out Buford.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: Buford for a day.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Bufin, Bufout.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: But that's the end of that story.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I caught my boyfriend and best friend together while I
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: was sleeping next door. Oh, uh-oh. I, 22 female, don't
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: even know where to begin. My head is such a
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: mess right now. So my boyfriend, John, 24 male, and
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I have been dating for three years. At the beginning,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: it was the most romantic love story. I met him
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: when I was 18, started dating him when I was 19,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: and the more I dated him, the more I saw.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: A future with him.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user kjsother. And if
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: you want to submit your own stories, go to the
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: r slash okstorytime subreddit.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I'm Keon.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: I'm Savannah. I'm Sophia.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: And we're here to give good advice goofily. We don't
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: have all the answers. We only know what we do.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: So let us know what you do down in the comments.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: He would always put time and effort into me, take
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: care of me, and go the extra mile to put
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: a smile on my face. But things have changed since then.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: So to say the least, after about a year and
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: a half of dating, it started with like little things
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: like him not wanting to kiss me as much or
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: finding excuses not to hang out. We went from seeing
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: each other every day to only hanging out maybe once
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: or twice a week for two hours. I know he's
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: got his own life and I'm not trying to control him.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: But I wish he would make me feel a little
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: more special and maybe make an extra effort to just
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: see me. I should probably also mention that I suffer
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: from depression and low self-esteem. And it's probably really hard
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: on John when I'm in a bad state. I try
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: not to, but sometimes I just can't help feeling so
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: alone and in the dark. So anyways, we were celebrating
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: my best friend's 22 female ex-best friend now, uh-oh, birthday
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: at my house last night with a bunch of friends.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: Maybe about.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: 20 of us, and there was a fair bit of drinking.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: The reason she couldn't have the party at her house
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: was because she shares her place with roommates, which was
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: fine because I had no problem throwing her a party
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: at mine as long as she helped clean the house
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: up in the morning. The night went alright, but I
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: did notice John and Sarah, the best friend, were getting
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: a little too close, like him grabbing her from behind
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: and spitting her around, but I just brushed it off
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: because I never noticed anything before and we're all best friends.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: So after around midnight, everyone had left and John, Sarah,
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: and I We're just chilling in the lounge room, laughing
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: about our night together. When I was ready for bed,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I set up a mattress in the lounge room for Sarah,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: and John told me he'd be in our bed soon.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: So I went to bed and crashed alone. Maybe after
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: a few hours, I woke up in the middle of
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the night, desperately needing to go to the bathroom. Now,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I don't have a bathroom connected to my room. It's
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: down the hall. So I slowly get up and realize
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: John isn't in our bed. I want to walk down
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: the hall. when I start to hear moaning noises. And
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, WTF. And I peek my head down the
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: hall to see John and Sarah having spicy sleep. I
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: know I should have confronted them right there and then,
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: but I couldn't. I just sneak back into bed and
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: cried silently. I didn't even have a chance to go
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: to the bathroom. So now it's morning. John snuck back
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: into our bed and is acting like Nothing's happened. I've
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: lost a longtime best friend and a boyfriend I put
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: three years into. I don't even know how to confront them.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm not even sure if I can confirm what
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I had seen because we were all drinking. It's driving
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: my insanity crazy. Denial is a river in Egypt. You
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: saw what you saw. You know what you heard. Here's
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: the real punter. is that John and I haven't slept
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: together in months, but he can sleep with her. I
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: just feel so low. How can I confront them and
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: even begin to process this? I don't want to lose John.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: We have our ups and downs, like they did it
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: last night, but he's everything to me. If anyone has
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: ever been in this situation and has any advice, feel
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: free to let me know. Just don't be too brutal.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I think I already know what I have to do,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: and we have some relevant comments.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: What are we doing?
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, first things first, I would have.
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: First... First things first, go to the bathroom.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: I'm peeing.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: First things first, I'm peeing.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: And then I'm going to be like, if they don't
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: hear me and they don't stop, I, well, I guess
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: either way, I'm still getting up and I'm going, I'll
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: be like, hey.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Guys, what's going on? Oh, okay, cool.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Get out. End of that.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: I don't need either of you in my life. Please
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: put your clothes on. Get the heck out of my house.
• 45:57
  Speaker 5: Bye.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Don't contact me. And now all of your food is mine.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: John hasn't been giving you any attention or treating you
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: correctly in your relationship for the last year and a half.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: And he's doing this with your friend? Well, ex-best friend?
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: In your own house.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: In your own house?
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: While you were there.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Like, that is so disrespectful beyond so many levels.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: I mean, even if it was her birthday, it doesn't matter.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: None of this matters. This is all bad. You are
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: losing your best friend and you are losing John. I'm sorry.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: You can't keep this straight up. We have some relevant comments.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Channel Orange says, I would first sit down with John
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: and just be straight up about what you saw and
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: what you heard. There's no way he can lie or
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: deny it without looking like an idiot. I would deal
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: with Sarah afterwards. That's... Dang snake. Honestly though, if it
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: were me in this situation, I would cut them both
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: off right there after confronting them.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: No questions asked.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: What your friend and boyfriend did to you was beyond betrayal.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: There are no excuses and I wouldn't even bother trying
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: to hear them out. Opie says, I'm thinking of doing
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: this once Sarah leaves, which should be hopefully soon. I'm
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: just hiding away in my room. I feel so pathetic.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: SilverRiver2113 says, All I can say is leave. He cheated
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: on you and broke your trust.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: You deserve better.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Find someone who respects you. Opie responds with, One thing
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: I'm scared about leaving is that he has private photos
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: of me and I'm afraid he will share them if
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: I leave him in such an abrupt way. John can
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: be that kind of petty person.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: I think I know his password.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try to delete the photos before I
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: confront him with the excuse that, uh, I need to
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: check my email or something like that. I'm just hoping
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: there aren't any backups. But if something happens, I will
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: definitely go to the police.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: We have an update.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: I used that excuse that I had to text my
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: mother what day we were hanging out. I don't have credit,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and John knows that, so he didn't expect anything. And
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: I went through his phone, and the evidence was pretty damning.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: They've been sleeping together for.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: A while.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Took screenshots of their conversations and sent it to my
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: phone in case he tried to deny it. After all that,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I confronted him when Sarah left. It was so hard
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: to even get the words out. And you know what?
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: He denied it. Wow, shocking.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Because he seems like an absolute terrible waste of a
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: human being.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Because he is. He told me that he loves me
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: more than anything and would never do that.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: And that I should know that. And to stop accusing
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: him of such silly nonsense. That's when I told him.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I've seen all of his and Sarah's messages and at
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: first he still kept denying it saying someone's hacked his
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: accounts wow he doesn't know what I'm talking about but
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: eventually he just broke down crying saying he loves me
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: and doesn't want to lose me but couldn't feel the
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: spark anymore and it was the biggest mistake of his
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: life he wants to make this work and push past
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: this well maybe you should have tried instead of sleeping
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: with my best friend so I told him to leave
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: and of course he doesn't know where his car keys
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: are and asked if it's okay to stay for a
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: few hours when his best friend Mark gets off work
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: so he can pick him up. It was so difficult
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: to say no, but I did. I just wanted to
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: be alone. I don't even know who he is anymore.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: He ended up finding his car keys, and he's been
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: calling and messaging me ever since. As for Sarah, I
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: got a message from her saying this. I'm assuming John
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: gave her the heads up.
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: I can't even explain how sorry I am.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: OP.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Ever wanted to hurt you and i don't know how
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: this happened but something grew between john and i and
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: i can't deny that what we have is so intensely
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: strong and real hope we can work for this and
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: i hope you can someday come to become okay with
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: me and john being a couple i wish you the
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: best of luck and when you're ready please message me
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: lots of love i can say have them block.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Screw you, girl. The fact that she's like, I hope
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: one day you'll understand. No, actually, I won't.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: Because neither of you both did this behind my back
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: for who knows how long.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: And now you got caught. And it's like, oh, sorry.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: You didn't feel bad when you were doing it. behind
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: my back.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: But now that I know, you're like, oh, no, I
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: feel so bad about it.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. Bye.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: So I don't know what to believe.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: John is telling me he wants to work through this
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: while Sarah is saying they're a couple. I'm now going
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: to be ending it with John. And my mom is
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: going to come meet with me and stay for a
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: few days to make sure I'm OK. Thanks for all
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: the advice, Reddit. And we have some relevant comments here.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: In caps, Arkamis says, So real!
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: OMG!
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: Until one of them loses that spark and cheats on
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: the other. This is how people act when they have
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: no self-control or willpower.
• 49:44
  Speaker 5: If you're losing.
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: The spark.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: You don't go F other people. You try to work
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: on your relationship or you end it if you're not willing.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: I hope he says, exactly. He should have ended it
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: with me months ago when we first felt something for
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: the snake at least. I no longer have any respect
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: for either of them. We have an update too. Some
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: of you guys suggested that I send the messages that
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: John sent me to Sarah. Me and my mom talked
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: about it and how I might come off as spiteful
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and jealous, but I thought, screw it. I don't owe
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you guys the time of day or respect. So, I
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: sent them to her.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: At first, she didn't respond and ignored it, but then
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: replied asking to meet up and discuss this.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: She's now playing the victim, saying she had no idea
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: that John still wanted to pursue me and that we've
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: both been played. I have no idea if Sarah messaged
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: John or what came of those messages. I honestly want
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with them anymore. My plan is to
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: pack up all of John's crap and leave it out
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: in the front outside. Then message him he can collect
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: it while I'm at work. He got three days to
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: get it until I donate them to charity. I also
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: then blocked his number and every social media account so
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: he can no longer contact me. I've also removed his
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: name from any shared responsibilities and or accounts we have
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: together and any mail of his is sent to my
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: address will be returned to sender because I'm not putting
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: up with any more of his crap. As for Sarah,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: I have no intention of keeping that snake as a
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: best friend. But unfortunately, we travel in the same friend group.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: So I'll just have to avoid any future gatherings that
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: she's participating in. Luckily, I have friends that love me
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: and will help me move through this. Thank you again
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: for your support.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that you did the best thing
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: you could. You got away from the situation and you
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: know that you have support in other ways rather than
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: these two idiots. So, you know, get the help that
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: you want and deserve. Definitely go see a professional if
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: you're not already. And yeah, I'd say, screw these people,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: they're not worth your time.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: John picked up his stuff, loaded it into his car,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: and then showed up to my door. I told him
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: to pick it up during my work hours, but of course,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: he didn't have the decency to give me effing that.
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: I'm so angry.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Mom said that he tried to walk through the door,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: and she told him to get lost and slam the
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: door in his face.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: I could hear him calling my name.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: And it just made me cry a little harder, but
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I just wish I could have had the verification of
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: watching him have the door slammed on his face. Just, urgh,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: what a piece of crap. Here's some final comments. Opie says,
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: I spoke about it to two of my friends, and
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming everyone knows by now, just don't have the
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: mindset to really talk about it with them at this moment.
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: But, They understand.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: But as much as I hate her, I don't want
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: the group to feel like they have to choose.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Don't want them to choose?
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: If they choose your other friend, they're all freaking weirdos.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: And Sarah will probably end up doing it to them.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Once that spark's done with John and Sarah, if it
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: is ever done, she'll move on to the next one.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: on to the next one. Hey, it's Keon, your favorite
• 52:29
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• 52:32
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• 52:34
  Speaker 4: My friend kissed me as a joke on our trip.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: Now I can't stop thinking about her.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: Quick, kiss her back.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: This past weekend, I, 24 female, took a girl's trip
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: with my friend, Betty. The rest of the group, she
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: has known since childhood. I met them two years ago,
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: and we all get along fairly well. By the way,
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: this comes from throwawaykissedagrill. And if you want to submit
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: your own stories, go to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I'm Savannah.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: I'm Keon.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: I'm Keon.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: I'm Sophia.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: And we're here to give some good advice, maybe in
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: a goofy way, maybe in a sad way.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: I'm really not sure. But guess what? We don't have
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: all your answers.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: We'd only tell you what we would do in this situation,
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: but let us know what you would do down in
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: the comments. During this trip, a few of the girls
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: were heavily drinking and would give each other pecks on
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: the lips. They thought it was funny. It wasn't a
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: big deal.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: One of the girls, Allison.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: 23 female made a comment she wanted to kiss me
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: because there were only two of us she had never
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: kissed before.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: I believe she gave the other girl.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: A peck at some point.
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: On our day slash night, I drank quite a bit
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: all day during a few games we were playing. While
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: getting ready, Allison made the comment again how she hadn't
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: kissed me. I went up to her and gave her
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: a loud smooch on the cheek. She turned to me
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: and kissed me on the lips. We had talked about
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: it earlier during the game and I had only done
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: anything physical with the few people I had dated. After
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: this kiss, things between Allison and I changed throughout the night.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: She cuddled with me on the bed while everyone was talking.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: She was holding my hand as we walked to dinner.
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: And she pulled me close at one point and we
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: stayed near each other. We walked to a bar and
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: she continued to keep kissing me. It basically turned into
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: a quick makeout session and she asked if she could sleep.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: In my bed tonight.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: We all went back to the hotel room and one
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: of our other friends took her to her own bed
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: before leaving for her room. My bed was next to Allison's,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: so I laid facing near her head, and she grabbed
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: my hand, and we were sort of caressing each other's arms.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: When Betty went to the bathroom, she grabbed my face,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: and we started to make out again.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Betty saw and went back to the bathroom, but kept
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: the door open.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: After this, we just stayed holding hands, and she rubbed
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: my head and went to sleep. We went back home
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: and haven't discussed what happened. This is the first time
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: I have ever done something like this. I don't want
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: to make it a big thing, but I am honestly
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: interested in it happening again. Now I'm slightly freaking out.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Why I think she may like me slash at least
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: be interested in it happening again. She didn't try to
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: make out with the other girls. I think it's just
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: a joke. The other, she's known as long as Betty,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: it wasn't really anything to them. She asked to come
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: to bed with me. She wanted us to get pictures
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: together during the day constantly. She kept I guess targeting
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: me out, if that makes sense. Every time we see
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: each other, it just seems like she has some sort
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: of interest. Her touchiness, the kissing was intense. I really
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: felt like she wanted to do more and be alone.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: Before we parted ways after the trip, she gave me
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: a tight hug and said something about seeing each other
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: soon or hanging out again soon. Why I fear it
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: was just a thing to her that meant nothing. Nothing
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: was said after day after or since then.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: We don't really.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: talk outside group activities. I have had friends, male and female,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: female and female, who have hooked up, spicy sleep, made out, etc.
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: and said it didn't mean anything. They never discuss it again.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: Not a big deal to them. This could have just
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: been a drunken makeout and she may have wanted it
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: in the moment and is done with it now.
• 55:48
  Speaker 5: Nah, girl, she was targeting you all day.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: She's like cuddled with you for so long.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: You were holding hands for a fair amount of the day.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Unless if she was wasted the entire day, which still
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: don't believe. Like, I mean, her intention was you and
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: only you. And she's done it with Betty before or
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: something along those lines.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's why Betty was like in the doorway.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Could she tell us?
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: Probably.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Other important information. I have never been with a girl before.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: She made a comment to one of our friends before
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: dinner that she really wanted to spend the night with me.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: She has experience with both male and female. I'm not
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: necessarily saying it's a big deal to me, but I
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: have not stopped thinking about it since. I want it
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: to happen again just to see what happens.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: It weird for us, especially if she's just like, whatever
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: about it. I was thinking about saying something next time
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: we're together, like make a.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Joke of it. This is very much out of my zone.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: So I don't know what to do here.
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: That's so funny.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Hey, can we just jokingly make out again and like
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: cuddle and just do more of that?
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: Remember when we made out?
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: That was so funny. Let's do it again. I love jokes.
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: I love comedy.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: I sent her a message today about basically nothing, just
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: to see if it starts any type of conversation. I
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: am hoping to see her this weekend. I would like
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: to hear just any type of opinions about this. I
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: told one friend, and she just thought it was weird
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: it happened. Am I making too big of a deal
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: about it?
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: Update, day after.
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: I messaged her last night, but she was busy at
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: work until late. She messaged me this morning a picture
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: of her in the bath, tasteful not too revealing.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: Who does that? Friends don't do that.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: So what?
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: We're in a little flirty thing, but nothing has really
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: been discussed or talked about. But I was really excited
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: when I saw a message from her pop up on
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: my phone.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Update two, five days later.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: I messaged Allison after my previous post, just saying how
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: I was ready for the weekend. She messaged me back
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: saying she missed me and I asked what she was
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: doing this weekend. She told me she let me know
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: what her day looked like and was being semi-flirty. But
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: I wasn't sure where we were at, so I was
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: on guard a bit. We messaged here and there all day,
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: and she had a work event that night. She had
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: a few drinks and said, I wish I could meet
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: up with you tonight. I told her she could, but
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: I didn't want a repeat of the trip and said
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: I looked forward to seeing her Saturday, though. I think
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: this may have given her the wrong impression, and I
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: will get back to that. Same thing happened Friday, where
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: we were both being a bit flirty. I sent her
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: a picture with this flirty filter that said, how many
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: people have crushes on you?
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Zero.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: And she said, I know at least one person that does.
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: So that gave me more confidence to not be so
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: shy with her. Then came Saturday. We went to brunch
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: and it was great. We talked about the trip overall,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: but we never talked about what happened, which since it
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: was in public, I'm happy about because we had people
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: way too close to get into all of that. But
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: we just talked and it felt natural, even though I
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: was incredibly nervous and she kept making comments about how
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: alike we are. At the end, we hugged goodbye and
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: I could tell we both wanted to kiss, but neither
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: of us initiated it. I was going to bring it
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: up after I had driven home, but within two minutes
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: of me sitting in my car and leaving, she messaged
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: me saying she really wished she had kissed me, but
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: wasn't sure if I wanted to. I told her I
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: did want to. We had a party that night, but
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: she wasn't sure if she was going to come, so
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: I told her if she did, I promised to initiate
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: it this time. Unfortunately, she couldn't come, but we're going
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: to meet for lunch this week. The rest of the
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: weekend was a mix of flirty and just talking and it.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Was really nice.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: I'm going to make sure we lay out what we're
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: going for here before anything happens, but I'm very happy
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: with where it is at.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Update three, two weeks later. Do you think they live
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: together now?
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: Do you think they live together? Yeah, they start moving
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: in together within the first week.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Aw. Update three, two weeks later.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Since my last post two weeks ago, quite a bit
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: has happened. After our brunch that Saturday, we had plans
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: to meet for lunch during the week. We messaged constantly...
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: We turned up the flirtation and we were really excited
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: to see each other again.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Well, that following Tuesday, she got into a car accident.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Nothing major.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: She was fine, but totaled her car. Her mom came
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: to stay with her afterwards. So instead of coming to
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: her right after, I sent her some flowers. She was
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: completely surprised and seemed incredibly happy to get them. I
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: think this somewhat helped us separate from friends a bit more.
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: The next day, a mutual friend and I went to
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: her house to see how she was doing. And though
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: we couldn't get alone time, I was really happy to
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: see her again. Then the Rona got more serious and
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: I was very busy with work before I could work
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: from home. Last week, I started to work from home
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: and her job canceled all of her hours. She came
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: over and again, I was so nervous. We watched TV
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: and talked for about an hour. Then she said she
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: wanted to get comfy with me. I automatically thought she
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: wanted to snuggle. So I pulled a blanket over us
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: and was ready to watch TV and cuddle. But she
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: went straight for a kiss. We started kissing and it
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: was great. But I got into my own head about it.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: I was a bit overwhelmed with it happening. She started
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: to move things quickly after that. So I suggested we
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: move to my room instead because I thought I may
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: relax more there. We just kept kissing and she seemed
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: hesitant once she started doing more and said she was
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: very nervous because she wanted to make sure I enjoyed it.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: I told her I was sure I would.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: But we don't have to do any more today if
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: she's uncomfortable, which I was glad we were on.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: The same page.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: We ended up cuddling and napping for about an hour
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: before she went home. Later that night, we talked more
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  Speaker 4: about that day and she said she really wanted to
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  Speaker 4: take things further, but was very nervous about one, doing
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  Speaker 4: too much too soon, two, making sure I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 4: We talked constantly all day through the week and we're
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: going to see each other this weekend. The only issue
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  Speaker 4: is we haven't discussed what this means for us. We
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  Speaker 4: talked about when we realized we were attracted to each
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  Speaker 4: other and apparently I was wrong. She has never been
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  Speaker 4: with a woman. So this is all new to us.
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  Speaker 4: We're very open about the attraction level we have for
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  Speaker 4: each other and talking about doing stuff. But I also
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  Speaker 4: want to make sure we have an understanding of what
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  Speaker 4: we are to each other. How is the best way
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  Speaker 4: to approach this when probably neither of us.
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  Speaker 3: Know what we want?
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  Speaker 4: My main concern is we're not messing around with other people.
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  Speaker 4: Is that a reasonable thing to ask? We've talked about
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  Speaker 4: life and other things, not just spicy related, so I
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  Speaker 4: think we're also just getting to know each other. I
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  Speaker 4: don't want to scare her off and say, What are we?
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  Speaker 4: But I also have some anxiety over this being important
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  Speaker 4: to me and her being casual about it.
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  Speaker 3: Sum up question.
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  Speaker 4: Would it be okay for me to ask her to
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  Speaker 4: keep us exclusive even if we haven't discussed what we
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  Speaker 4: want out of this? Yeah, you can totally be like, hey,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, I'm not seeing anyone. I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if you had any intentions on that, but I just
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  Speaker 4: wanted to be clear that I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could just be like, hey, I want to
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  Speaker 2: try this with you and only you, and I hope
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  Speaker 2: you can try this with me and only me.
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  Speaker 4: We both said we're happy to get to explore this
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  Speaker 4: new part of us together, but I am also not
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  Speaker 4: necessarily wanting her to fool around with other people. I
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: would tell her if she wants to, of course she can,
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  Speaker 4: but then I wouldn't want to continue down this path
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  Speaker 4: and we go back to friends. I know most people
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: are fine with dating multiple people, but that's just something
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  Speaker 4: I have never been comfortable with. We may not be dating,
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  Speaker 4: but we're being physical with each other. So I want
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  Speaker 4: us to have that open communication of what's going on
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  Speaker 4: with each other. You should definitely be careful about that.
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  Speaker 4: If you're definitely being physical with someone, make sure that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: they're not being physical with anyone else.
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  Speaker 3: That's just good for health reasons.
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  Speaker 5: That's just communication.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Which is perfectly fine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can totally discuss. I feel like you guys
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  Speaker 4: are pretty close now to the point where you guys
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  Speaker 4: want to get closer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this could definitely be a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Truly.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the end of this story.