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AMINA BUDDAFLY - Apple Oats & German Pancakes · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.
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  Speaker 1: Today I have a very special guest, reality TV star
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  Speaker 1: musician mother.
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  Speaker 2: I mean a butterfly is.
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  Speaker 1: In the building. Yes, yes, yes, and I'm very excited
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  Speaker 1: to have you here. I met you a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago and you were a breath of fresh air,
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  Speaker 1: very beautiful in person.
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  Speaker 2: Today. What will you have us eat?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm gonna have us eat a super simple
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  Speaker 3: breakfast dish. Actually it's two separate dishes, but they are
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  Speaker 3: easy to make, cheap, and you know something that I
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  Speaker 3: ate a lot during hard times. So one is a
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  Speaker 3: apples and oatmeal. That German term for it is a
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  Speaker 3: famously and I actually used to eat it as well
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  Speaker 3: as I you know, was growing up in Germany, and
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  Speaker 3: then I took it along with me into, you know,
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  Speaker 3: my struggle.
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  Speaker 4: Times in New York.
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  Speaker 3: But the other one is a German pancake, also super simple,
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  Speaker 3: and it's a little bit different than you know, the
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  Speaker 3: pancakes that people are used to in America, the few ones.
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  Speaker 3: It's more like a almost like a crape. But it's
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  Speaker 3: a German pancake and easy to make.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So it's it's apple and and oats.
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  Speaker 4: And then and I used to eat it for breakfast
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  Speaker 4: all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So for the oats, what are the ingredients?
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  Speaker 4: So it's old fashioned oats. It is apple.
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  Speaker 3: I use one apple for one serving, so if I
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  Speaker 3: just eat it by myself, it'll be one apple, and
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  Speaker 3: I put almonds, orange juice and cinnamon, and that's it.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not it doesn't have to be cooked on
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  Speaker 3: the stove. So you can just wait a minute. How
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  Speaker 3: is it not cooked on the stove? You don't cook
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  Speaker 3: it on the stove.
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  Speaker 4: That's the okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then and then for the pancakes, the pancakes.
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  Speaker 4: Ingredients are flour, milk, sugar, and eggs.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome, this is pretty simple. I've never heard of any
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  Speaker 1: of the above. I'm going to ask you to repeat
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  Speaker 1: the name of the way you said it.
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  Speaker 2: In Germany, I.
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  Speaker 3: Call it famously, and it's apples and odes basically the translation.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, but it's in German.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like. Okay, it sounds really special
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  Speaker 1: when you say it. But all right, so walk us through.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead with the apples. Okay, take a bowl,
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  Speaker 1: you peel the apples.
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  Speaker 3: Peel on it, and then you need a shredder like this,
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  Speaker 3: and you just go all around.
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  Speaker 2: Until you know you come to the.
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  Speaker 1: And just so you know, if I would have, like
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  Speaker 1: actually known about this dish, I would have helped you
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  Speaker 1: pre make it.
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  Speaker 4: But like, it's literally it's super fast to make.
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  Speaker 3: This is probably the most annoying part because you know,
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  Speaker 3: you get your fingers dirty and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: But it's apple.
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  Speaker 2: It's an apple. Yeah, it's apple. I didn't know what
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  Speaker 2: kind of apples do you like? I only eat honey.
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  Speaker 1: Crisp, But for this dish, I picked up Granny Smith.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. You can use any apple that you like.
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  Speaker 3: If you like sweeter, you know, obviously you would pick
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  Speaker 3: like a Pink Lady or whatever you like.
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  Speaker 2: Any kind of apple works. I was thinking more sour.
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  Speaker 3: That's why sour is always good, even though this dish
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  Speaker 3: does not have any sugar.
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  Speaker 4: That's why what I like about is healthy too.
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  Speaker 3: It's a super healthy breakfast dish, and that should be
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  Speaker 3: enough for this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm more curious how you're gonna do this without a
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  Speaker 2: stood Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Man, this doesn't see When I tell people about this dish,
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  Speaker 3: I actually posted it before on social media and people
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  Speaker 3: were like, wait, you don't cook the oats.
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  Speaker 4: I don't eat oats with that, you know, without them
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  Speaker 4: being cooked. And so you just I don't measure as
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  Speaker 4: you see, I don't measure anything.
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  Speaker 2: I like that. That's a respectable I think.
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  Speaker 3: That's yeah, a little bit more because it should be
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  Speaker 3: equal amount apple and oats.
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  Speaker 2: And then we take the chopped.
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  Speaker 1: Almonds, and just so you guys know, she actually buy hand,
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  Speaker 1: took a knife and just chopped the almonds.
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  Speaker 4: I did, but it also didn't take long.
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  Speaker 2: And then all I need.
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  Speaker 3: Is cinnamon because that gives it the flavor that makes
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  Speaker 3: it so good.
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  Speaker 4: And then the orange juice, and.
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  Speaker 5: We I've never seen this, I know, like people like
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  Speaker 5: orange juice with oats, no way, But wait till you
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  Speaker 5: taste it because the apple, I think it doesn't want
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  Speaker 5: to you don't want to make it, you know, want
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  Speaker 5: to have it swim in it, but you want a
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  Speaker 5: definitely nice and moist.
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  Speaker 1: And this is something this is is this like culturally
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  Speaker 1: normal in Germany?
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  Speaker 3: You know what I think it's it's actually my mom
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  Speaker 3: made it up. It's not a typical German recipe, okay,
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  Speaker 3: but it's something that my mom.
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  Speaker 4: Introduced me to.
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  Speaker 3: And I just remember that I used to always make
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  Speaker 3: it when I just was hungry in the morning and
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  Speaker 3: wanted something healthy and fresh, because you know.
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  Speaker 2: It looks super healthy. This is it, you guys, This
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  Speaker 2: is all all you have to do that too. It's vegan.
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  Speaker 2: It's vegan, guys. I didn't even learn my first vegan this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did not even even think about the aspect
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  Speaker 3: of being vegan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.
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  Speaker 1: What was going on at the time when your mom
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  Speaker 1: had she was making up dishes?
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  Speaker 2: Like was she Were you guys struggling or.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I want to
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  Speaker 3: say struggling. But we definitely were poor. We didn't grow
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  Speaker 3: up with much and my mom never had much money.
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  Speaker 2: Single mom.
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  Speaker 3: Dad left when we when I was eight, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we never had much even before when dad was around, Like,
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  Speaker 3: we were never.
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  Speaker 4: A family of like eating out was like wait what.
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  Speaker 3: We never got to eat outside or like in a
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  Speaker 3: restaurant or something like that. So I definitely my mom
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  Speaker 3: would always freestyle cook and do things like this, and
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  Speaker 3: that's I think where I got it from now, as
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  Speaker 3: you know, being my having kids myself, I think I
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  Speaker 3: got a lot of my style of cooking from my mother.
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  Speaker 4: Just whipping stuff together and then it's coming out.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's let's sample it, so no cooking. She just
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  Speaker 1: fixed the apples with the oatmeal. Who was the oats
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  Speaker 1: and orange juice and almonds, and it looks delicious.
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  Speaker 2: And guys, I have just.
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  Speaker 1: Learned how to make my first vegan dish, which you
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  Speaker 1: guys know I'm trying to eventually switch over to vegans.
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  Speaker 2: So and it looks very beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I are you vegan. I'm not vegan, but I eat.
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  Speaker 3: I like to eat healthy, you know, I don't eat
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  Speaker 3: a lot of meat and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: And you see, I'm excited.
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  Speaker 4: What you think.
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  Speaker 2: It's not sweet?
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  Speaker 4: It's really good.
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  Speaker 2: You good at sugar? If you like it, doesn't eat sugar.
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  Speaker 1: You could also adding that my apple, I chose the
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  Speaker 1: Granny Smith, which was sour.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to expect I did it. I
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  Speaker 2: was like if I go sweet, but no, I would choose.
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  Speaker 4: You could probably choose a sweeter apple.
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  Speaker 3: And you could also add like, if you like raisins,
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  Speaker 3: my mom used to put raisins in it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't love raisins, so I always make it like this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would leave it like this. Yeah, And people
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  Speaker 2: love it.
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  Speaker 4: People are like orange juice with olds.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 1: But with the apple, the part of me feels like
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mix this with a little bit of yogurt,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if that would mess it up.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know about mixing orange juice with Maybe
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  Speaker 3: maybe you could wear that, right, There's one things for sure.
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  Speaker 3: It's super healthy and easy to make, and you don't
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  Speaker 3: need much.
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  Speaker 2: You can leave the almonds out.
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  Speaker 4: If you do.
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  Speaker 2: Your kids know how to make this.
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  Speaker 3: They yeah, they absolutely do, but they you know, I
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  Speaker 3: still make it for them just because I.
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  Speaker 6: Don't want them to hurt their fingers on this. But
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  Speaker 6: they know how to make it. I know this dish
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  Speaker 6: is good because I'm gonna finish it. So this is
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  Speaker 6: a tad out of ten.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, oh yeah, See it's not for everybody. But if
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  Speaker 3: you like me and you like something healthy in the morning,
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  Speaker 3: something quick.
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  Speaker 1: I will say in this dish too. If you're not
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  Speaker 1: a fan of an oatmeal, this is the best way
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  Speaker 1: to eat it.
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  Speaker 4: See, it doesn't taste like the typical oatmeal.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't like it does not like like you know.
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  Speaker 1: For me, oatmeal has textures that I don't really like.
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  Speaker 1: But I could totally eat this every day. I think
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  Speaker 1: this will be my meal of choice because it's super healthy, super.
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  Speaker 2: Different, even if you made a full breakfast and just
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  Speaker 2: had this on the side.
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  Speaker 4: Crazy thing, the kids love it.
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  Speaker 3: My kids at least love it, and you know you're
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  Speaker 3: feeding your kids something good.
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  Speaker 2: I think the orange just really seals it.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hm.
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  Speaker 2: That's the crazy part. The thing that people are questioning
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  Speaker 2: is what makes it feel that dish?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, the next one, So the next one I think
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  Speaker 3: even easier and simpler.
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  Speaker 1: That was amazing for I think that was the first
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  Speaker 1: time I actually enjoyed oatmeal one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: Should I just go ahead and make it? This is
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  Speaker 3: gonna be the German pancake. You gonna go ahead, So stove.
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  Speaker 2: On and she used the butterspray.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, I'm going to use the egg and the milk
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  Speaker 3: and the sugar.
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  Speaker 4: I think I need to pour a little bit out because.
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  Speaker 2: We have too much, too much flour.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm mixing it with the Yeah, you're you're We're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna use that, okay, So all we need is
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  Speaker 3: the flour, the egg, the milk, and the sugar.
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  Speaker 4: Mix it all together.
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  Speaker 2: Flour egg, milk, sugar.
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  Speaker 4: And again I'm not confiding. I'm just oh light whisk
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  Speaker 4: yeah's good as you pour the milk.
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  Speaker 1: I feel so lazy because I always buy the she
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  Speaker 1: made pancake mix and just add one.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I never even like growing up. My mom made everything
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  Speaker 3: from scratch. And again this is something that came from
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  Speaker 3: home from Germany and that I brought with me once I,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we moved to New York, me and my sisters.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have much either. What made you guys move
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  Speaker 2: to New York? You know, music?
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  Speaker 4: Like you know what age? I was nineteen, Okay, I
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  Speaker 4: was nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: My twin I have a twin sister, Jazz, who obviously
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  Speaker 3: also was nineteen at the time, and then our oldest sister, Sophie,
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  Speaker 3: two years older. You guys packed up together and packed
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  Speaker 3: up and just moved to New York all.
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  Speaker 2: What was your mom saying?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 3: She what made her comfortable is that we were together. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I think it was. If it would have been just
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  Speaker 3: one of us, like would have been different. But we
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  Speaker 3: were always together. She trusted us.
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  Speaker 4: She wasn't really concerned, which is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Because we really went to New York with nothing like
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  Speaker 3: no plan, no, no money?
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  Speaker 2: Really well did she did?
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  Speaker 1: She also feel like she still had a choice in
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  Speaker 1: it or you guys kind even came to her like
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  Speaker 1: we're leaving.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we we we decided we were going, and
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  Speaker 3: she could. She wouldn't have been able to stop us
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  Speaker 3: even if she she didn't try, but if she would
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  Speaker 3: have said, like, no, I don't think it's a good idea.
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  Speaker 4: We our mind was made up, you know, to go
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  Speaker 4: to New York.
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  Speaker 2: So she was a single mom with how many kids?
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  Speaker 2: She had twins?
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Oh yeah, I'm a fraternal But are
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  Speaker 1: you fraternal or identical?
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  Speaker 4: I am identical identical twin my sister exactly like.
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  Speaker 2: Me, No way, So I always like here with her,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah I have I have heart.
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  Speaker 4: People always like is this at me?
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  Speaker 2: And now were the twin?
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  Speaker 1: So your mom had your you and your your sister
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  Speaker 1: and who else was in the Yes, me and my
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  Speaker 1: twin are older sister.
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  Speaker 3: And then my mom had another child by another man
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  Speaker 3: when I was eleven, so I have an eleven year
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  Speaker 3: younger sister also.
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  Speaker 4: So it was four of us, four girls.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, but the three of us, the three of
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  Speaker 3: us are older sisters. We were very close, and we
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  Speaker 3: would do everything together, and we you know, we started
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  Speaker 3: singing together. So we were we've kind of always had
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  Speaker 3: been a group, a singing group, and you, oh, you.
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  Speaker 2: Guys were in a group. Yeah, there was no jealousy
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  Speaker 2: or rivalry between you and your sister. Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 3: We were more like I think we wouldn't have gotten
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  Speaker 3: into music even if if we weren't sisters, because it
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  Speaker 3: was a whole you know, it was that whole singing
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  Speaker 3: in harmony, all of that stuff that we would do.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It was the nineties. Nineties.
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  Speaker 3: Girl groups was pop everywhere, and we just wanted to
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  Speaker 3: be like them, and we just loved singing so much.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it was always me and my two sisters,
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  Speaker 3: Twin and Sophie, So Jazz and Sophie and the three
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  Speaker 3: of us we just determined because we had already started
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  Speaker 3: out making songs. Actually, we were signed in Germany when
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  Speaker 3: I was fifteen to a record label BMG, and we've
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  Speaker 3: had a lot of experience, you know, being in the
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  Speaker 3: music industry, just never in America. That sounded like such
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  Speaker 3: a dream so far away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you were you were learning about how America
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  Speaker 1: through television and radio.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like American just you know, R and B
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  Speaker 3: music in general wasn't made in Germany. So we were like,
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  Speaker 3: if we want to make that kind of music, we
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  Speaker 3: have to go to America. But that still sounded so
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  Speaker 3: like impossible. It was like, there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: in America, nobody does that.
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  Speaker 1: Did a lot of people in Germany look like you?
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  Speaker 1: Because when I imagine Germany, I imagine, now this is
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  Speaker 1: my ignorance speaking, but I would imagine more white, and
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely grew up.
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  Speaker 3: With mostly white, like around white people. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 3: we were the outsiders. And that's also one reason why
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  Speaker 3: I never felt home there, never felt like I belonged there.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if my sisters also felt it, but
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  Speaker 3: I can imagine.
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  Speaker 4: I mean I just always felt like this is not
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  Speaker 4: where I belong.
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  Speaker 2: Are you? Are you mixed or are you?
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  Speaker 6: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: My mom's white? Oh, your mom's white.
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  Speaker 4: Dad is African Senegalese. Okay, Okay, So yeah, we were
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  Speaker 4: the different ones, you know, because we didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Look like everybody else.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, now, you know, times have changed, like twenty
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  Speaker 3: plus years later, like there is it's more multicultural in
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  Speaker 3: Germany in general, But when I was young and in school.
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  Speaker 3: There was maybe one other kid that was like had
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  Speaker 3: a black parent or something.
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  Speaker 1: But when your dad left you were eight, You said,
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  Speaker 1: what was going on at the time?
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  Speaker 2: What made him leave?
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  Speaker 3: You know that just you know, he's an African African
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  Speaker 3: man and he he was just cheating on my mom
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  Speaker 3: obviously the whole time, and my mom was just not
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  Speaker 3: happy with him, and she stayed with him for way
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  Speaker 3: too long because of us, like so many women do
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  Speaker 3: because of the children.
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  Speaker 2: You stay together. But he was not treating my mom good.
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  Speaker 3: Like we experienced some stuff like where it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you would never want to talk to your dad again,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, just physical you know, domestic abuse and.
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  Speaker 4: Things like that, and we would witness it.
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  Speaker 3: And I just remember one moment, especially where he hit
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  Speaker 3: my mom so hard that she fell on top of us.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, I think I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was probably eight because it was around the time
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  Speaker 3: that she left, And from that moment on, I was
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  Speaker 3: just so scared of.
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  Speaker 2: Him, just scared, scared, scared.
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  Speaker 3: One of the crazy part is I was his favorite child,
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  Speaker 3: so he always wanted me next to him, especially during
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  Speaker 3: the phase where he felt like my mom is going
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  Speaker 3: to leave him. He was holding on to me always Amy.
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  Speaker 3: He called me Ami. You know, my name's Amina, but
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  Speaker 3: to him I was Ami Ami. He comes it with me,
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  Speaker 3: and it was like he wasn't like mean saying in
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  Speaker 3: the mean way. It was like I love you, I
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  Speaker 3: want you with me, like you know, things are bad
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  Speaker 3: right now. He wouldn't talk like that, but that's what
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  Speaker 3: I remember thinking in my head, like I just need
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  Speaker 3: you right now because you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, my mom was trying to leave.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so hey ended up she ended up, Oh my god,
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I'm burning this. Ah it doesn't look burn No, it's
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: not burned.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, good for good.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: See this this always takes a little longer when you
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: have at the stove on. But yeah, and so then
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: my mom ended up getting my dad out a year later.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Took like almost a year, felt like eternity that he
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: was still in the house refusing to leave.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: But he was cheating though.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: He was, Yeah he was.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: And he was like telling my mom things like why
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: are you worried about that? I always come back to you.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know yeah that men say it not every mine.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: When you when you went to New York, how soon
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: was it before or how soon after you moved to
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: New York. Did you end up aligning with love and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: hip hop?
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Ooh, way, way, way, way later.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: So the first and my first fifteen years in New
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: York were just you know, on the grind, trying to
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: make it in music, me and my sisters.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: You said, first fifteen years.
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or like at least let's say ten Okay, Yeah,
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: I'm totally dripping ten years. So from two thousand and
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: two to twenty twelve, me and my sisters were just
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: like trying, you.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Know, always.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: Making music together.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Got signed to diff GM Records in two thousand and five,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: two thousand and six, then you know, we got dropped
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: from the label. Then we got signed again, just me
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: and my twin.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: What made them drop, you guys.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: A lot of reasons.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: This is ready by the way, you just need to
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: send him in on it. But they actually we didn't
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: get didn't get dropped from Gestion. It was like we
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: asked to be released from the label because they were
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: just holding us hostage.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: That, okay, friend, not mess up here.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: So we were just not Our album never came out,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: and we were signed.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: We get signed the same year that Chris Neo Arehanna.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say that was the air that year.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: When nobody knew who they were and of them, and
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: we actually did a lot of showcases with them, with Neo,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Rihanna and Chris and we did like small little radio
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: tours throughout the nations and we.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Were all new artists. And then Black Butterfly was kind
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: of the only group, our group that didn't really get
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: that big break.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: You know, they all blew up.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, had big but they were putting a lot into
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: them because I remember at that time I owned a
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: magazine and they were like pushing Neo pushing.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: We felt that way, you know, aren't they They're forgetting
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: about us, right, you know, they would probably disagree and
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: say other things.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of politics involved.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: It was also.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Because we were signed to a joint venture label with
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Russell Simmons and La Reid involved, and everybody had different
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: opinions on what type of group we should be. Russell
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Simmons wanted us to be more urban and hip hop,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: and La Reid wanted us to be a big pop group,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: and so then he kind of like let let Russell
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: kind of decide what direction he would take us in.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: So we ended up putting out the song called bad
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Girl with Fabulous and actually before that came Rockabye. It
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: was our first single on Deaf Jam and it was
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: it was a good little run, like it was played
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: on the radio, like we were so excited. We were,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: you know, thinking this could possibly blow up like crazy,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: and it did to a certain level, but it never became.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: And what was your pockets looked like at the time,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So you were you were playing on radio, but you're
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: still I'm.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Telling you, I was a broker, being signed to a
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: major label then being just on the grind by myself,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: and people always think, oh, he signed to a label,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: you know, and I mean you get an advance, but
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: that maybe our advance at the time wasn't a lot
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: and it lasted maybe six months, and then after that
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: you still signed for two three more years.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, not making money.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: So we were broke a lot while being signed to
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: major record labels.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I heard Pink was like that, like
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: at some point she went broken. She was pumping gas
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: and they I think La Read ended up being like, no,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: we gotta pull her off the street. She was just like, well,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you ain't give me money. I'm a survive exactly.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: We were, you know, it wasn't the death Grim deal.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: But I remember after the Deaf Grim deal, we got
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: signed to Jay Records. Me and my twin our oldest
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: sister had left the group at this point, but we
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: were signed at J Records, and every month we were like.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Who's going to make the call?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: We always had to call our you know that we
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: were signed to Projection Slash Management under Jay Records, So
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: every month we would be like, who's gonna call and ask.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: For the rent money? It always had to be one
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: of us like and asked for the rent.
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: And then we ended up getting evicted too in Brooklyn,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: New York. We ended up getting.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Evictad So why was the deal built like that where
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: they were just giving you a check for your rent?
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: They gave us a check in the beginning of when
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: you signed the yeah record your minimum guarantee and then
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: you get some money. It was I don't even remember
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the amount, but it wasn't a big advance.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, now they took on a million dollar advances
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: and things like that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: We never had that. Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: So our advance, like I said, after like about six
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: months maybe a year, ran out and we had nothing
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: and we were yet we were signed, working on albums
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and flying out here to La to record with Tank
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: and different people.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: But you know, we were literally.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Signed for three years just recording and they never had
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: seemed to have a plan to release her.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: So then you guys got released. You're smart enough to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: get released. Now what were you working any side hustles
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: while all this is going on or yeah.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: So eventually, you know, we were like, Okay, we gotta
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: do something. We gotta pay our bills. And you know,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: we were living in a small railroad.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Apartment in green Point, Brooklyn, very small three of us.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: It was me, my twin sister, and our one of
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: our best friends that we grew up in Germany with
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Esther is her name, and she was kind of like
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: our personal.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Want.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah I don't turn it off. So she was like
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: our personal manager whom made best friend. And so it
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: was the three of us living there and that was
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the time when we always had to ask for.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: The rent and we were signed.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: It was just so crazy, and I just even remember
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: one moment that sticks out that was so crazy because
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: we would be around like Russell Simmons and jay Z
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: and all the people like we would go to these
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: major events, be next to the biggest you know, the
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: biggest stars all the time, just in these one side
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: of our world was that, and then we would come
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: home and have nothing like and it was so just
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: I don't even know what word I want to say.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: It was just so weird. And we would even go
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: to like Russell Simmons's house he was married to kimoor
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Lie Simmons at the time.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: They had a golden toilet.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: And I just it's just like little things that you remember, right,
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: So the golden toilet on one side, and then you
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: come home and you don't have money to buy a
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: toilet paper.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, wow, yeah, that's uh. I remember when I was struggling.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I would always have this thing. It'd be like, uh,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you'd either have a car, or you'd have.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: No gas money or something.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: It was always like it was like you had the car,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: but you didn't have the gas money, or you had
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the gas buddy, but you didn't have the car. And
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of what you're saying. You're like,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I couldn't even afford the toilet paper. So what did
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: you guys do to survive those types? Did you guys
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: take out jobs?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I ended up taking a job.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: And then you know, at that point we had already
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: been signed again for three years and nothing was happening.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: We were like, okay, we were learning that being signed
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: really doesn't mean any day that you have money or
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: that you're going to make it.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: It doesn't.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: It just means that somebody decided to maybe even sign
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: you as a.
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: Text writer whatever in the case.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, you were just signed and.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: You are put to work.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, I found myself so much
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: just working on myself. That's why, you know, I'm thankful
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: for it going that way, because it made me just
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: work on myself more. But yeah, we were broke and
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I ended up going on Craigslist and finding a job
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: as a singer. I was determined to not find a
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: job like a regular job or something I hate. I
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: wanted to do something I love. I would go on Craigslist,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: like look for singer jobs, okay, And then so I
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: ended up finding the job that I then did for
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: like four years, right before Love and Hip Hop. I
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: also met Peter Gans at this job, my baby dad
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: and her ex husband. So I worked at the Village
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Underground in New York as a singer in the band.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: He hired me immediately. The owner Noam Dorman's shout out
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: to he was amazing. He helped me so much, and
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: you know, I kind of a new era began for me.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: And that's kind of when the group with my sister
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: kind of faded out a little bit, because now I
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: was busy with something just for me, you know, I
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: was busy with other things that something that was fun
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: for me, making me money.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: It was like almost like.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: It was like school for me in a way, because
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I learned being on stage. You know, all these years
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: being signed, we didn't perform much.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: We didn't really guys are just in the studio. We
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: were Yeah, and when you were in the room.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: With these celebrities like Russell and Jay, did you how
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: were you able? Were you able to even maximize or
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: did you feel like imposter syndrome where like maybe you
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: didn't belong so you were just happy to be in
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the room.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: I mean we were always happy to Like you know,
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: once you've come into a big deaf DYM office and
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: you see your own picture big, like on the biggest
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: wall inside there, like on the twenty eighth floor.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I remember we coming up there and it's us like
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: everybody believed.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: It seemed like everybody believed that Black Butterfly was going
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: to be the next, you know, big thing, and then
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: it just doesn't happen that way. Everybody's looking at like
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: who's to blame? Right, Yeah, And I just remember like
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: that one when we dropped our second single, because the
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: album ever came out, but when we dropped our single single,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: like we went into Jay Z's office one time because
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: apparently he asked to see Black Butterfly, and so we
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: went in there and he gave a great advice to
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: me that I always I keep mentioning it because it
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: was just great, like he just wanted to know how
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: we feel about, you know, everything that was going on
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: at the label. And at the time, I was kind
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: of like feeling a little like a puppet, like they
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: were just telling me what to do and I was
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: just doing it, but I wasn't really happy.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: And I feel like a lot of artists.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: That Neil expressed that if you ever watched his interview,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I mean this first record, Yeah, yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: It was like they tell you what to do, if
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: you have anything to say against it, you're hard to
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: deal with.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: You don't listen.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: And we tried to just be quiet and just do
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: what they say. But yet everyone was telling us to
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: do something different. So this person was saying, just just
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: just do what you're being asked to do, just you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: and then the next person would say, like jay Z
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: in this moment, he was like, you gotta be more
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: like Kanye and stand up for what you want. You
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: can't put anything out there that you don't believe in.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: I loved it because I felt that I was like, yeah,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: but how we supposed to do that?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: We know what year was this, Kanye? But Kanye was
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: it out? You well, he was out.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: He was just wait, wait, Kanye, don't start to drop.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: He's dropped in two thousand.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: He was already.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, people knew of him, but he wasn't Like.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: When did the college drop out come out? I don't remember,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: but so you're he was like, be like, be very
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: vocal about what you want. But it's interested that Jay
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: would say that I have a huge jay Z fan.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: There's a huge jay Z paint again by lobby.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: But I will say this, it's easier for a man,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, you could correct me to speak up
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: in this male dominated industry than a woman. Because if
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you would have came in that room and said, yeah, Jay,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I'm the shakes. If you ain't nothing, what would what
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: do you think they would have said? And I'm not
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: gonna say Jay because Jay's you know, my favorite, But
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, in your position, did you feel
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: like as a woman you could be like yay.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: No.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: That's why I felt like it was so contradicting because
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I loved what he was saying. I was like, yeah,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I want to be more like that, but they're not
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: letting us.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Like if we do that, then we're being called.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: This and that, and like it was like a heart
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: It was totally. It was stressful being fine. You always
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: try to please everyone else, and especially.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: When you're young, because you're like, I don't want to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: blow this. I'm like that with the black effects. Sometimes
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to mess up, and then
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden they realize I'm not that great
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: yep or whatever. But I'm just gonna I want to
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: try this past before.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: I get cold, exactly. You know, my first it might
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: need sugar on top. I put sugar on top. Let
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: me see if I put enough sugar, it's probably not sweet.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: There's enough sugar in it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Really you want a sweeter you know where did you syrup?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: You can?
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not I used to eat it just like this,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: more cinnamon and sugar, like just sprinkle some on top
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, the only difference really is
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: because you can use syrup, is that it's not fluffy
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: and it's more like a crape.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan of grapes. Boom. If I
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: choose between this and a crape, I would choose this.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Mm.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is Philly. It's missing sugar, but mmm.
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: I normally don't like sweet suff but this has to
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: be a little sweeter.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Well the sugar and chocolate. Yeah, I think it's fine
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: with just sugar. Yeah. This is not considered vegan right.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Now because it you know, it has milk egg.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: It's probably the opposite of vegan.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest. This is it's not bad. Yeah, this
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: is not bad.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: This is almost like it reminds me of like corn meal.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But it's a pancake, doesn't it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: In contrast with the apples and olds, it's like this
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: is more fillings.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Eat these together.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would make both of it like most like
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of days. This would be my breakfast like
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: this that both together, we can eat breakfast together.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Just add a little add a little bacon, We're good.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Ah yeah, yeah.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I've never been a big you know, meat for breakfast either, but.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I feel like it just needs like something salty, salty
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: on that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: No, like oh, apple, the pancake like you just right, No,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: you're right.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: You can definitely have like sausage with it or something,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: and if you wanted to, you could put the apples
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: and on top of this.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Yep, that would be I think that's that would be
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: how I do it.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I used to always eat this also with apple sauce.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: That's also good. That's how it. Yeah, this is great.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: It's feeling affordable, and I liked that most of the
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: ingredients are typically in your house.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: That's what made me start eating it so much because
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: we always had flour.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: How hard was it for you to come up with
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a dish for today's show? Not so hard.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: It just this stuck out because I remember the times,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: you know, the times in Brooklyn when we were trying
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: to live on a budget and not having much money,
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: and then growing up in Germany and my mom always
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: making it for us, so it stuck out.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: It's stuck out. And you know what's crazy? This recipes
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: in my I have a cookbook.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: And this is in it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, speaking of cookbooks, this will be added to the
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Eating Well Broke Cookbook as your dish. This will be
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: so it will be in your cookbook, but we are
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: going to be adding it as your signature disc along
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: with a bunch of other dishes that people a when
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you're broke. I should probably tell you that sooner, but
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: hopefully you'll be okay with it being in the book.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm okay with it now.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: Now that you've fed me amazingly well on budget, after
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: experiencing your record label fiascos in your music industry, you
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: start working at this club. Yes, this is where you
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: meet your future ex husband.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And so tell me is that kind of
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: where where did love and hip hop and Peter Gunns
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: come and change the traje?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: You know, first of all, like I was so blooming
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: at the time because I didn't realize how unhappy I
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: really was in these record deals. That one I was
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: actually doing what I love, which is singing on a
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: stage every single night, like and making money.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: That it was.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Really like making me, giving me so much excitement just
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: every day, like going to work.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: I loved it.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: I loved working there and singing, and I was around
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: the greatest musicians like you could imagine. And apparently someone
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: named Peter Guns also loved that scene, that live music
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: scene in New York. He would just be there and
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: hang out every night, and everybody knew who he was.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: And I just remember he was always standing by the
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: entrance of the club with shades on, and I would
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: just be like, why you're wearing shades in this dark club?
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: Like I thought it was kind of like weird, but yeah,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: we You know, it took a couple of years for
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: him and I to connect because even at the in
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: the beginning of me working there, I had a boyfriend,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: one of the guys in the band.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I was with him for like a year and a half.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: He was also friends with Peter Guns, and we were
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: all just a big family and everybody knew, you know,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: everybody was like friends with everybody, and it was like
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: kind of organically started like hanging out with Peter in
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: a group.
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Like so then when I broke up with my then boyfriend,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Peter had already kind of been a friend, yeah along,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: you know, we had hung out a bunch of times,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: but I never looked at him like I like him.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah oh like.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: That's that's why it was so weird that it happened
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: the way it did, because I I would in the
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: beginning of the first two years, I would look at Peter
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: like yeah, yeah, okay, Like first of all, he always
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: got different women like Superwoman, like not my not my thing.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: But then you know, as I get to know him,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: we just became really cool friends. And that's what I
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: always say. Me and Peter started as friends, and I
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: just knowing or seeing how he moves with women never
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: really made me interest, didn't anything else but just being
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: friends with him. However, that that didn't work out like
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: that because we ended.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Up Actually how did that happen? You guys?
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, y'all fell in love and then how did
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: love and hip hop end up in that?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: It was a timing thing.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Me and Peter probably had like dated for about almost
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: six months, and one of his friends was Rich Dollars,
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: who already was on Love and Hip Hop. So me
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: and Peter would always hang out and do fun stuff.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: We would go to the parks and we would go
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: to the movies and just do fun things. And one
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: day he was like, let's go buy this set my
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: boys filming. So we went by the set, like you know,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: they were filming love and hip Hop and he was
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: just doing a kind of a cameo sitting in at dinner.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: It was like a dinner scene and I was just
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: there watching. I was not involved. But that's the night
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: that it all started, because you know, the producers started
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: talking to Peter. He's once he said, this is a
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: meaning my wife, but I got a girlfriend.
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Two The producers were like, the next day, I got
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: a call.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: But wait, so you guys were dating a couple months
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: and you guys got married.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: We got married after dating for like six months.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: So we started dating summer of twenty twelve. We get
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: married February twenty thirteen.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: But he said he has a wife and a girlfriend.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: But did you know he had a girlfriend.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I knew that he had Tara, the mother of his sons,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: that he still he was still living with.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, he was still living with He was well married.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: He was still living with Tara, but he said, you know,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: they're not together.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: So so he would sleep at her house, but be like.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: At my house every night.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: So he slept me every night with me, maybe one
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: night out of the week, he wouldn't so what he
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: spend his days with her? He would during the day
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: probably be with yeah, with her and then and then he.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Was with me every night, okay, and then and then.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: But so you can and I.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Knew at this point, you know, he didn't break up
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: with her yet. That's why I wanted to do love
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: and hip Hop because I knew if we do love
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: a hip hop, she will finally know what she needs
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: to know.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Oh, so she didn't know about you. No, that's the
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: fucked up part.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: She didn't know about you, because yeah, but why did
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: he ever tell you why he proposed to you even
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: though he had a girlfriend?
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: No, you know, the way we got married, I have
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: to say that because it's it's big. The way we
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: got married was more like out of desperation, because.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: You know, I always say.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: This, like we had a real relationship, we were really
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: in love. We got married because of love. But we
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: got married for a reason, and that is because Peter
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: didn't want me to go back to Germany. Okay, so
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: if it wasn't for that, we would have never gotten married.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: Got it, got it? So he wanted it.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Like when people say, oh, fake marriage, you just married
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: for the fav that's not true because we were actually
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: dating for real, in love, you know, like we were
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: not faking a relationship for me to get Obviously obviously
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of people do that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: My brother did that.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't want me to have to go back
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: to Germany. I was stressed out, and he was like,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: I want you here, I want to be with you. You know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: I would just marry you.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, that's how it went.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: So then, so then is your first time meeting terror
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: on Love and Hip Hop? Yeah?
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, she's gonna hate me
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: if I say this wrong.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: No.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: I met her at the nightclub that I'm peter ed.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: However, I didn't know that was his main girlfriend that
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: has been with him for thirteen years.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, So are you guys good friends now?
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: And we are now years later now we finally had
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: a place where we talked to each other. We like, yeah,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I can say I can say the word friend now.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: It took a long time, but we were friends.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: When you look back at that whole situation, do you
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: think that. Do you have any regrets on however they
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: worked out or if they're, if they're if if they're,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: if you could.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Go back, what would you change?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Even though I wasn't the responsible one, I have the
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: regret that we went into doing Love and Hip Hop
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: without tyr or knowing anything. You know, that was definitely wrong,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: even though Peter is the one that should have made
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: sure he doesn't drag her on a show, and you know,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: without knowing what, you know, what was really going on.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: The producers didn't even prep her for it.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: They loved it. They loved that she didn't know. Oh
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: my god, you know, they don't care about nothing.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Now, were you guys making good money at the time
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: during that show.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: The first season? No, not at all.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: It was more like I was, you know, honestly, I
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: had two reasons for going on Love and hip Hop.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: The main reason was, Okay, finally people are going to
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: see me as the artist. You know, Love and hip
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: Hop is about music. I can finally show case who
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I am. I can play my instruments and millions of
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: people going to see me. That was my number one reason.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Number two was I was in this situation that wasn't good.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: It wasn't comfortable.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I needed you know, Peter was telling me so many lies,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: constantly saying, Oh, I'm gonna tell her, I'm going to
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: tell her.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: I knew if we did the show, it was finally
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: going to come out, and.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: That's all I wanted.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I just wanted him to, you know, tell her what
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: he did and without loving if we would have never
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: did Love and Hip Hop.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I don't think you would have ever told Tara anything.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: There is himy War is still together?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: No, I know from what I know, but I can't say, okay,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: but are you still with him? No?
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, no, No, we divorced.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Were you know?
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: We not at all?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Now, you guys were married for how long? Man together?
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Three years?
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Married for probably six because the divorce took like three years.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: But I moved from New York in twenty sixteen, and
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: since then, you know, we were done. Like I probably
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: was still hooked on him for a little bit of time.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: It took me a long time to get over him.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Long.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Well, you guys had kids together.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: We had it, yeah, and I was pregnant when I
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: left two.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh you you left at that time because I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: remember the last time I had seen U on TV.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: You had like Tar had said she was pregnant. I
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: don't even remember we were pregnant the same time.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: So did she end up having hers? Yeah, So you
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: guys have kids that are.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Like same age seven Gunner is seven and Bronx and seven,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: my daughter and her son.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: And then the kids. Now you guys are friends, so
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: your kids all, oh.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there they love each other.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm so happy we were able to come to
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: like a place like where we don't blame each other.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, she may still feel some way.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: About what happened back then, but we have like kind
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: of forgiven each other and we kind of more relate
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: to one another because we were both sold this. You know,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: he was kind of like doing the same thing to
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: both of us.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I felt like at some point it was like,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: even though he was the causer of the mayhem, he
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: kind of sat back and watched you guys.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he kind of a part of him enjoyed.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: I think that, Yeah, I don't know enjoyed, but I
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: know that he was helpless.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: He did not know what to do.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: He had made this big mess and it was fucked
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: up and it was just bad, and it seemed like
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: the world hated him for it, and he just didn't
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: know how to make it right.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: It wasn't no making it right. He couldn't make it right.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Now, were you two the only one in the triangle?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Do you know?
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Or were there other women?
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: I know, I'm I would almost bet on my kids.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: It was Yeah, there was definitely others, but we were
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: the main.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: We were the main of the Yeah.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: You know, it displayed on the show and everything, But
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: he definitely had other you.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Know, while he was living with me, we were living
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: in Youngers in New York.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I had just had a baby. Obviously he was still
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: going between me and Tara. He also had others in
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: the background. I know because I found out some things.
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it wasn't just us.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: But but I noticed, You're like, he was living with
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: you or he was living with Tara?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Did he was he?
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Were you guys always the breadwinners or did he bread
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: winding too?
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Once we started did Love and Hip Hop for multiple seasons,
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: we were all kind of in the same boat. Like
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: it started being like it just was one of the
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: biggest storylines ever. It was, and at the time it
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: was also the ratings were crazy because of us and
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: like definitely, if you talked love and hip hop New York,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: you know, stands out is like what stands out is
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: obviously Cardi b And then like our stuff. Yeah, like
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: at least as far as triangles and love like messiness goes.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I mean that was like when you were watching Nessis
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: and that's all you wanted to see. But were you, guys,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: were you was Peter stepping up financially for you guys
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: or were you guys holding down the fort.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: Too where he could? You know, he is a giver.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: He gives, He lives for his kids as far as
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: like you know, when he got it, his kids are good. Yeah,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: but because he has ten children, he's not always in
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: the best position to like take care of everything. And
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: even at the time where he was living with me,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: he was also having to help Tower with you know,
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: with whatever rent and all that bills, and he was
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: not able to cover everything for everybody. So he was
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: doing it as much as he could.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: But so now as a woman being a single mom providing,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: now the whole world knows you, what are you thinking? Like,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Like how are you healing and taking care of yourself?
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like if I was in your shoes.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: There would be so many conflicting emotions from you know,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: outside opinions to how I see myself, how I ended
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: up in this position. You know, even you and Tara. Thankfully,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: I'm glad to hear that you guys have this bomber.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: You guys can kind of be like, oh, yeah, I
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: was kind of a shit show, you know.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. I wish more.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Women kind of like, you know, like when my husband
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: cheated on me, I wish the side chicks would just
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: like at least reach out. Yeah, and not in not
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: in a vulgar way, but just reach out. And you're like, look,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: you know this, dude, Oh boy, it's telling me this.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: You know, we do have this type of relationship. Do
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: you want to compare notes? Not like I'm gonna take
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: your man or I'm gonna be the side chick, because
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of the side chick the side chicks are like,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like there there's confusion and
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: the loyalty or I don't know how the side conversations go.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: But a part of me is like, yo, pro sweet
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: woman to woman like.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: No, absolutely, and I which is so crazy to say,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: I was the side chick, but it was also the
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: white Yeah, so it was so weird the position I
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: was in. And I just remember I always wanted to
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: do that and he would always somehow stop me. Yeah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: you know until that scene in Love and Hip of
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: where I was the one that brought her the news,
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: like I because he just wouldn't do it, and he
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: kept saying, don't worry, i'll do it, I'll do it,
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: and then he just wouldn't. And at one point I
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: was like, that's it, I will tell her, and oh yes.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was, especially because we were filming the show.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: It was on camera, and it was it was just
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: he was like, I wanted to tell her in private.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you didn't. Yeah, you never did. You never
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: found the time.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Well after Loving Hip Hop taped and you moved to La,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: all right, new beginning life started.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: What was your pockets looking like?
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: Fine?
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: It was good enough for me to have to worry about.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Like I was able to get me an apartment, like
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: a nice apartment. I had my car, I had everything
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I needed. I was pregnant, I had my one year old,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: and I wasn't concerned about.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, I got it.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: You know, I gotta make money because I would have
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: been good for for some time, like I was good
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: for about probably it a year before I had to
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: think about a year.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's yeah, you.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Know what a one year old like when I had
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: my baby, Like a year to me of being good
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: is still like freak out able, I think, especially because
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: if you don't have someone to call and be like, yo,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: can you cover my rent?
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: No?
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, it is still freaking out.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: And then if you're pregnant, but you were also still
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: in love too.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I was.
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Absolutely it was hard, so it was probably one of
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: the heart it was. I always say it's the hardest
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: thing I ever had to do is leave that situation
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: alone and leave that man alone and really really let
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: it go.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: Took two years.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: And the thing is, like you said, it is freakoutable
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: if you think about it. Okay, I have a year,
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: but then I don't know what's next.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: And where was your money from love and hip hop? Yeah? Okay.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: The only reason that I wasn't freaking out it's because
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: my whole life has been that way. You know, I
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: was used to it. I never knew I was never stable.
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: My whole life has been a whole grind, like trying
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: to figure it out. And I have to say even now,
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm not ashamed to say, like you still
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: have to figure out what's next. You know, you're trying
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: to build up things like and I'm forty now and
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I'm a mom and I'm a single mom, and I
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: still make my music, which I'm so proud of and
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: still so passionate about, but it's not enough.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: To live the life that I feel like I So
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: how do you survive?
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Work wise?
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Are you?
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: You know, I have a couple of different things, like
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: a few different things that I'm also doing some fitness,
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: like I'm studying to the yoga instructor. I'm very passionate
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: about that about yoga. And I have my books. I
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: still have my music, which I do make money with.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: It's just not the amount that I would like. Yeah,
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: of course, but I make money with my music, you know, performances, gigging.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I'm a musician, so I you know, I gig here
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: and there.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: And you get paid to do appearances still or not.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: I get paid to do appearances, not as much as
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: it was when when we were on Love and obviously
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: you get booked all the time when you're on TV,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: and now it's been years since I was on TV,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: and it's like you don't get booked as much. So
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: it's still like I'm still grinding out here, you know what.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Like as a single mom, how were you able to
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: handle it? I guess with the two young the babies
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: being younger because now they're older, But like, were you
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: crying at all?
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Or were you you know, the first two years of
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: moving to La having a newborn and a one year
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: old two year old?
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was crying.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: All the time, Like where was this when she was
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: in Germany? She had moved back to Germany way.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: So you were really on her.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was all by myself.
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: And even looking back, it's like wow, I look at
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: it from the outside and it's more of a wow
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: factor than when you were in it. When I was
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: in it, it was like, it's just what it is.
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: I you know, I took it day by day, and
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: I just know that I was mostly heartbroken more than
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: feeling like like defeated by life. Like it was more
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: like heartbreak that I really had to heal from. Like
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: I said, it took me two years once I healed.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: From a heartbreak. I really wasn't.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: I felt so powerful and like I can do anything
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: and so good about life again and all those things.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Did you ever date again?
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm currently in a relationship.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Is it a health Is it healthy now? Yeah?
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: It's I'm learning so much because I don't have, you know,
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: the issues that I've had in the past with men,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: which always kind of related to other women. Yeah, cheating, lies,
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: I don't have that issue. It's so relaxed with that
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: that that I'm learning that there's other issues that you
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: can have in relationships, you know, Like I never knew that.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: I always thought all I want is that someone.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: Who doesn't lie and cheat, and I'm the only one
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I have that now.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: But it's still not perfect.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it's different and it's it's so many
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: good things that I'm so thankful for that I never
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: believed that it's possible because I hate.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: Thought, oh man, cheat and all men do this well.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: And yeah, now when I look at men, I look
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: at them differently. I'm like, Okay, Like, especially today's age,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: I think guys are like more like if a girl
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't sleep with them on the within date three or whatever,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: like stub bars, and I'm like, well, did we mess
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: up as when the women?
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: Are we not setting enough boundaries? Or like why the bar?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I feel like men it should have been women are
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the pickers or what have you? And we we have
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: so much more power than I even knew we had.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't know women were so powerful till I had
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: a kid.
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: But yeah, that's the same way I feel.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Like I would like I hate when I hear men
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: say I would die for my kid.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, well, why don't you try living for
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: your kids.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Why don't you try like putting down the alcohol, putting
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: down the bitches, and like actually living for your kid.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I can't stand when a dude will say I would
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: die for my murder for my kid. We'll go out
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: there and get a job.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: For your kid.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: I agree with you.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying because I promise you, Amina,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: if your back was against the wall and you love
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: singing and you love all these things, and you had
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: to go work at Costco to put some food in
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: your kid's mouth, I guarantee you you'll be saying paper plastic.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: It's same for me. But we don't have to go
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: out there and say I would die for my kid. No,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: because every day we wake up, we make a constant
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: choice to live, even on a day that you think
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: about quitting on life, Like you know, heartbreak to me
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: is the most painful thing ever. And if you ever
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: think about giving up on life, you're like, as a mom,
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: you're like, well, who the fuck is going to take
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: care of my kid? If do I even have a
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: plan in place if I were to be gone? No,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: oh I don't have that plan. Then I got to
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: stay here every day and wake up and fight the
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: good fight. But I commend you as a woman for
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: going through everything you did publicly and even though you
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: may have been the side check wife or whatever the
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: end goal was, like you kept pressuring this Dudede tell
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: his girl.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: The truth and on it from the very beginning.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: It's good.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: It's good to inside too, because you know, sometimes we
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: look at the side chick like, well, why are you
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: in the dark so much? But I remember when I
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: found out about my husband's side chick. She was like
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: in the closet for like years with him, and they
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: were like going back and forth on text, and I
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: was just like, the fuck are you in the closet
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: in the years for.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: This fool, Like you know what I'm saying.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: No, I totally approach it differently too, Like because of that,
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: you know, I know what it's.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: Like to be be like hidden.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: It's one of my requirements now anyone to date, Like
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: my boyfriend now knows we've been through that. Like I
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: like I one of my requirements now is like I
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: have to be posted on social media.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeh, it's crazy.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Some women like, nah, you know that's going to destroy
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: the relationship. You got to you know, keep stuff private. No,
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: it's a requirement for me if you are exclusively dating
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: me and we are in a serious relationship, that you
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: showed me off, display me, you know, to the world.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Well, it's also like it'll I say, women, if we're
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: in a relationship, we got we have the same way.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: The guy has to feel like the king. The woman
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: has to feel like a queen period period, point blank.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: But I have seen like my husband was posting pictures
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and videos of me like every day, and the side
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: chicks would be like in the DMS, like, oh, you
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: celebrated your one year wedding anniversary. Can we meet up
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: and I hook up with you and be like, oh,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: these chicks don't care.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: They're like, I don't care if you're married or not.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm aware. Like when I say like I need
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: to be displayed, it's like.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: And that's for you to queen, not.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Because it's gonna stop him from you know, I know
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: that men can do what they want no matter how
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: much pictures of me are on his basis.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's it's a selfish decision.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I I'm in a very toxic situation now, but I
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: will say that like I'm taking my time through it,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: and like being able to meet with other single moms
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: or meeting becoming a mom has brought me more closer
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: to I feel like to women, more respect towards women
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I don't think I ever had before.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: But I also look.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: At men like way different, Like the way the game
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: is played now is not you know.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: And it's I have to say.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Me and my current boyfriend, he complains about it because
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: he's like, I don't.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Deserve that, you know, because I do.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Also he's like, your whole view of men is is
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: different because of your past, not me.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: But then I say to him like, yeah, but.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: You are men.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm not damn like we have this all
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: the time.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: It's like he thinks it's unfair because I've come out
• 55:37
  Speaker 3: of this such a different person, stronger. I don't allow nothing,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: like I don't allow any kind of you know.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: I'm so much more.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: My standards are different, Like my boundaries are set and
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: I am just not to be played with now, which
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: I love for me.
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: I love that I've become this way. I feel better
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: this way.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: When you see like a red flag. So I used
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: to see a.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Red flag pointed out to my girlfriend in the beginning
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: of whenever I dated, Oh man, I saw that as
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: a red flag, and I would ignore it. I saw
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: a post somewhere somewhere something said, when you see a
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: red flag and you ignore it, that is the same
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: red flag that you will leave in the end for Yeah,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: it's true. So now I'm like, red flag, yeah, but
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: you know me too.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: But I then think about it and like realize that.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, red flags, of course are different from like issues,
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: but it's never gonna It's never perfect.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen a perfect matter of fact, I
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: know relationships that look perfect from the.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: Outside and I'm like, they're not happy.
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: So I think that's what slowed down my process of
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: leaving my husband is like whether I can deal with everything.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: But right now what I am learning on right now?
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Married or not?
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I still consider myself single because I don't have a
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: counterpart that respects me or enough.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: But what I will say is I need to focus
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: on my own.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Happiness absolutely and just stay in that. What does my
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: happiness look like with or without somebody there, and whether
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: I'm married or not, That's where my head's at, like,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: and I think what I can learn from men are
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: is that they focus on their needs. Yeah. Women, it's
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: like we're designed to put the mask on the person
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: next to us before ourselves. Now, I'm like, you know what,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Like when it comes to my child who is helpless,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: you cannot wipe her butt or feed herself, she is
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: the person that will go before me. But as far
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: as everybody else, absolutely not. But I am terrified to
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: date with a child.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: How is that hard?
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: It is very hard because you know they always come first,
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: like the kids, like my girls, they come first, like
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: you just said, like even before.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: Me nothing else.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Though I am also at a place which none of
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: my past relationships were like this, where I actually do
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: put me first now, even within the relationship, which sometimes
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: causes some you know, it just also caused some because
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: they call yourselfish. You know, I've been called selfish a
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: lot since I've gotten out of this.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: If you learn from men, that's what they're doing.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: Selfish, it's not selfish if it's you know, if you
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: if it's.
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: It's necessary sometimes yeah, you know, to put yourself first
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean you're selfish.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: And I had to just have to stick by that
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: even in my current relationship, Like I always have to
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: make sure that I'm I'm good and I put myself first,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter what anybody thinks.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I'm still still growing that past that mountain. I'm
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: thirty nine. I'm like almost there. I feel like once
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I turned forty.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: It's a rat. I'm just saying about the same dude.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: We're in the valley. We could do a well. My
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: baby's young, she's only well she's too but she I
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: think she's a teenager. Really, you know, I.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: Have almost teenager. She's nine. My daughter is nine.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: I saw eleven year old that looked like a teenager
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: the other day. I thought she was sixty Like boobs is.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't even have boobs.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I was like eight seventeen or something else. I know,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, uh, they're putting hormones in the food.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Is your daughter hasn't hippibrity era?
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: No, but she acts like a teenager for sure. Yeah,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: like her look why she probably looks her age, but no,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: she acts.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I think mine just acts. I'm I haven't. I had
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: never been around a baby. I haven't arrived very late.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: But I will say, like, like the more she like
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: sings her alphabet's, her her numbers or something, I'm like,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: like what happened? Like she wasn't even talking a couple
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: of months. That's everybody's saying. And I kind of hate
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: the cleanness. But then my friends are like, you're gonna
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: miss that shit true, and I'm like, like I haven't.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: I have like we make promises me and my daughters
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: like promise me that because we like to be physical
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: and cuddle, and that's how I want each other so much.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I think it's so important.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: I always say that on social media, like give your
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: kids physical love, hug them, you know, so I do
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: that a lot with mine and I always have like
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: made this promise with them, Please promise me that you
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: will still let me do this when you're sixteen eighteen.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: And they promised so far, but I know it's they're sixteen,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: they'll be like, look you get one a week.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: One hug. Okay, Oh my god, I'm scared.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Yet everyone on everybody I've met has said like, at
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: some point she's not gonna want to be around you.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: So as of like the last week, I will say, like, now,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I just enjoy it. I do still sleep with her.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Some people are against her or whatever. I'm like, there's
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: some night special to make me sleep in her room.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll sleeping girls sometimes they're on the weekends.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: They still sleep with me every like Saturday, probably Friday.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Now, how often do you switch it off with Peter? Oh,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: so you're one hundred percent?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Does he ever see the kids?
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: He hates California, La. Specifically, he does not like to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: come here. He is still bitter and mad about the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: fact that I moved here.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: He's like, I hate coming in. Why did you have
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: to move so far away?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Taking my kids away from me? So he kind of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: blaming me that he can't see him as much.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, yo, like case a point, Like I
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: said before, I'm sure he's gonna be the first to
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: be like, I'll die for my kids. Oh, you're getting
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: on a flight to go see your kids. And I'm
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: not trying to bash him, no, but it's like, if
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: the rolls were flipped and he moved, would you not
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: make the time to figure it out? I don't care
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: if eight of those kids are on the East Coast.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: It's not your problem, dude. You made that decision on
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: whether I could leave the second you stepped out. But
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I'm way more respect to know that you're really doing
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: this shit on your own and in your are you?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Is he at least helping financially or no?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: Way? Can I still say?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: You know he's he's just I don't know what word
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: I can put on him, but like I know that
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: he he's like you said, like he's he would do
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: anything for his kids.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: He's just not always in the position.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: Do you think that's it or do you think he's
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: maybe I know.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: That's it, okay, because yeah, he gives when he can.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: It's just not what it should be.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're doing it so you're you're the mom
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: and the dad. Yeah yeah, all right, Well you know what,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: more props to you? I trust me, I'll married and
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: I'm the mom and the dad pretty much, so it
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: was never.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: Any different from me.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: And you know, honestly, I also didn't grow up with
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: that mindset, Like I mean, my mom was a single moment,
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  Speaker 3: it was normal. It wasn't like the man is supposed
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  Speaker 3: to provide, and like I didn't grow up thinking that,
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  Speaker 3: even because I was.
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  Speaker 2: Never taught that.
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  Speaker 3: Like my mom always made us feel like if you
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  Speaker 3: ever have kids, they're your kids.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's all I knew.
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  Speaker 3: So I knew by the moment I was pregnant, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna have kids, not we Oh okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know, so for me, maybe that's wrong to think
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  Speaker 3: that way, but to me, it was always like I'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna have to take care of these kids.
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  Speaker 1: I came from two parent household, and I think that's
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  Speaker 1: where me and my husband always argue. He'll be like
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  Speaker 1: I came from a single parent. I come from a
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  Speaker 1: two parent But I was very strict, like, look, if
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, were gonna do together. But then
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  Speaker 1: I always hear the Tupac versu in my head, Mama's baby,
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  Speaker 1: papa's maybe is.
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  Speaker 2: It Tupac or was it Jay, I forgot No, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's Jay.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's Jay, but anyways, fact check me, but no,
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  Speaker 1: that's Jay. How dare I discuspect anyways?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like.
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  Speaker 1: Now I realize it's mama's baby. No matter what, I'm
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: your rid or die, I'm your best friend, I'm your soldier,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and I absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. You ain't gotta tell them, you can just showed them.
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  Speaker 1: But thank you so much for coming on this show
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  Speaker 1: and blessing me with a great meal and being extremely transparent.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Where can people keep up with you? And like what
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: is going on? Like what projects do you have going on?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: And you just head directly to this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, So I just released the album this year. It's
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  Speaker 3: my first ever. I mean, it's my fourth full album
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: as an independent artist. So it's crazy to think I've
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: put out albums independently but never with a label, even
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: though I was signed multiple times.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: And so the album is called four point zero.
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  Speaker 3: And produced by me exclusively. And yeah, besides that, you know,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: check out my books. I have my Dishes and More
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: spelled whether I am I Dishes and More available on Amazon,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: and then I also have The Other Woman if you
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: are more interested in my story because it talks about
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: everything kind of we talked about today and then you know,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: being in a public eye with my relationship, so the
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: other woman and my dishes and more.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I have fitness.
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  Speaker 3: Events coming, you know, Like I said, I'm into fitness
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  Speaker 3: and yoga and all that stuff. Me and my boyfriend
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: actually having our first event coming up next month, Fit
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  Speaker 3: for Life.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I do all the things that I love.
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  Speaker 3: I like to I just like to do things that
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  Speaker 3: I love and not fall into the trap of oh
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  Speaker 3: I have to do this because you.
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  Speaker 2: Know I love that.
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  Speaker 7: Now you self published your books, yes, well, the first
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  Speaker 7: one was published by a publishing company, Thirteenth and Joan
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  Speaker 7: that came out and the U I moved to California
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  Speaker 7: in twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 4: And I always.
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  Speaker 3: Say, anybody that watched me on the show and has
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: an opinion of me, read the book, and.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: Then you can say I want to read it. Yeah,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: I should have brought you one forgot, but yeah, the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: other woman and yet that's it.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: Like just follow me on social media at Amina Butterfly
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: with two d's and yeah.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Just so you guys know, behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes, I've met Amina before. I think I may
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: have said it earlier. Super sweet, super easy to talk
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: to from the damn met you. So when I think
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: your publicists that I have what was actually through Yeah, ok, yeah,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize until today. And so that's so full circle.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: She has seen I had seen your name on the list,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, oh no, I definitely want to have
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: a mina on the show for sure.
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  Speaker 2: But it's nice to come full circle.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: But if you're ever bored in the valley on the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: I'll be doing nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be honest. Yeah, let's do something. I'll just be
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: with the kids.
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  Speaker 4: Me too, my daughter.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: I'm always trying to find something cool. I heard Irvines
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: doing like this cool pumpkin patch and they have like
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: a children's museum right close to it, but they have
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: like farm animals and all this. So I'm gonna do
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: like a two a j adventure and then another mom
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  Speaker 1: hack I learned, which anyone listening, this is a cool hack.
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  Speaker 1: I got in someone's friends and family for the hotels. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I tell people if you especially if you're follow
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  Speaker 1: a following. I had my little brother do this post
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  Speaker 1: on social like do you work at the Marriott or
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: the Hilton? And when they put you on Friends and Family,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: you get like fifty percent off on your hotels.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So now if I go to San Diego or Irvine
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  Speaker 1: and I don't want to drive back, I'll just book
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  Speaker 1: a hotel. It'll be like at the Hilton and the
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: Marriotte for like one hundred bucks.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so that's a cool mom hack right, amazing. And
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: so now when I travel, I don't have to worry
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: about hotel accommodations because I could stay in a good
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: hotel for half the price.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: And you mean you have to do your research and
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: play around in the app.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: But like I always tell people, like, don't just think
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: about making money, but think about how you can save money.
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  Speaker 2: So if you want feel it.
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  Speaker 1: If I see you're on your social that you post
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  Speaker 1: do you work at any of the hotels or the airlines?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Is another one? Post like do you work for the airlines?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: D im me, do you work for the hotels? Because
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: all they have to do is you add your information
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: and then you're good to go. And they just extended
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: that discount to you.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: And so now I literally travel wherever I want because
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: I know that the hotels aren't gonna you know, if
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I want to go to San Diego, I don't have
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: to worry about driving it back, you know, right, So
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: staycations are a lot easy there.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Ago, I'm telling you take my advice.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: And then if you worst case scenario, if it's something local,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: you could just hit me. I'll sign you into the hotel.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: But I've hoked up plenty of my friends. But I
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  Speaker 1: my little brother just did it recently. He got the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: same Hilton.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, dude, it's so plush, and.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: It's just about reaching out to your network and saying, hey,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: you aren't here, can you extend your discout?
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: So mom hack of the day. Guys, anyways, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Check us out on Eating while Broke, check out Amina's
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: books or music online and support Yes all right.
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