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Influencer Andrew Tate BUSTED · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace in the last days. A
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Speaker 1: notorious misogynist, woman hater, alleged sex trafficker and online influencer
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Speaker 1: with a huge social media following. Don't ask me why
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Speaker 1: people follow this guy. Andrew Tate and his creepy brother
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Speaker 1: detained in Romania and handed a UK arrest warrant. Looks
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Speaker 1: like the Brits did what the US was afraid to do.
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Speaker 1: I mean, s he Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us here at Crime Stories and
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Speaker 1: on serious XM one eleven. That's right. The online influencer
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Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, with literally millions of followers Go figure, was
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Speaker 1: detained and handed an arrest warrant issued by the British government.
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Speaker 1: Tate thirty seven and creepy brother Tristan Tate detained. They
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Speaker 1: were detained on claims of sex aggression. That's what they
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Speaker 1: call it in the UK, in a case dating all
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Speaker 1: the way back to two thousand and fifteen. Now a
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Speaker 1: Romanian court where the two were hiding out has to
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Speaker 1: make a quote pivotal decision whether they're going to execute
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Speaker 1: the warrants issued by the UK Westminster Magistrates Court. They
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Speaker 1: darn well better if they want to keep relations up
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Speaker 1: with the UK. Four women reported Tate. Four women, not one,
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Speaker 1: not two, not three, but four report Tate to authorities
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Speaker 1: for sex violence and physical abuse. For some reason, the
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Speaker 1: crown decided not to prosecute him. These victims had to
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Speaker 1: turned to crowd funding to cover their legal costs. The
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Speaker 1: four female victims handed over their evidence about the horrific
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Speaker 1: acts of violence. They say they endured and just waited,
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Speaker 1: but time passes and they were told the UK authorities
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Speaker 1: would not prosecute them. Now, don't forget Titus charged in
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Speaker 1: a separate case with rape, human trafficking and forming a
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Speaker 1: criminal gang to sexually exploit women. Why does this guy
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Speaker 1: have millions of men followers?
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Speaker 2: Freaks?
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Speaker 1: How did the whole thing begin? Possibly the most misogynistic
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Speaker 1: person I have ever encountered discussing tactics on how to
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Speaker 1: lure sex trafficking victims. These texts, message and more have
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Speaker 1: now been leaked and it's all spewing from the empire
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Speaker 1: built by Andrew Tate, a sex trafficker according to Elie
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Speaker 1: Law Enforcement. First of all, take a listen to this.
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Speaker 2: Most people know Andrew Tate for his online content which
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Speaker 2: has been called misogynistic. But what most people don't know
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Speaker 2: is that he also runs this secret of all male society,
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Speaker 2: the warrem which he says is a kind of self
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Speaker 2: help society that helps you become better man. It costs
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Speaker 2: six thousand pounds a year to join. What we uncovered
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Speaker 2: is that actually within the Warreum, they're actually teaching men
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Speaker 2: methods for grooming women into online sex work. And we've
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Speaker 2: identified from the leaked messages you referred to at least
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Speaker 2: forty five potential victims of this crewming method.
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Speaker 3: Breaking news, disgraced influencer Andrew Tate has been indicted and
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Speaker 3: will face charges of rape, human trafficking, and forming a
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Speaker 3: criminal gang to sexually exploit. According to officials, three others
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Speaker 3: will also be charged in connection to human trafficking, including.
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Speaker 1: Andrews's brother, Tristan.
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Speaker 3: A spokesperson for the Tate brothers confirm their indictment to
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Speaker 3: NBC News. Both brothers deny all allegations. The two were
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Speaker 3: amended into custody back in December before being released under
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Speaker 3: house arrest in March.
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Speaker 1: I can't stop someone from being misogynistic, that's within them.
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Speaker 1: But I tell you this much, we can stop sex trafficking.
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Speaker 1: And what's so amazing is he's not trafficking women in secret.
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Speaker 1: They're not in the back of massage parlors and nail
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Speaker 1: salons with their papers stolen from them unless they have
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Speaker 1: sex with strangers and then they're pimp making the money.
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Speaker 1: This is not some thirteen or fourteen year old girl
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Speaker 1: that has been stolen and she's being hidden in some
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Speaker 1: secret apartment somewhere in La far far away from home,
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Speaker 1: being beaten in drug This is right in our face.
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Speaker 1: This is happening right online. I really don't even know
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Speaker 1: where to start. Take a list our friends at BBC.
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Speaker 4: Prosecutors have filed formal charges against the controversial influencer Andrew Tate,
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Speaker 4: his brother Tristan, and two associates. The charges include rape,
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Speaker 4: human trafficking, and forming an organized crime group, as well
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Speaker 4: as illegally accessing a computer system and violence against one
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Speaker 4: of the alleged victims. The indictment court says that at
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Speaker 4: the beginning of twenty twenty one, the four defendants formed
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Speaker 4: an organized criminal group to commit human trafficking in the
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Speaker 4: United States and Britain.
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Speaker 5: We know there are seven alleged victims who are apparently
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Speaker 5: allegedly recruited by false promises of love and marriage by
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Speaker 5: the two Taate brothers.
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Speaker 1: Love and marriage, my rear end, that is not what
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Speaker 1: this is. This is not about love and marriage. You
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Speaker 1: were hearing from our friends at BBC as well as NBC.
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Speaker 1: This is not about all love and marriage at all. Guys.
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Speaker 1: Before I go to senior investigative reporter for dal Email
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Speaker 1: dot com, Caitlin Becker joining us, I want you to
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Speaker 1: hear our cut fifteen from The Dangerous Rise of Andrew
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Speaker 1: ta BBC. Listen.
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Speaker 6: In the leaked messages that we got access to, were
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Speaker 6: able to see that up to forty five women were
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Speaker 6: recruited into working on webcam, potentially groomed using this method
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Speaker 6: without their knowledge. We saw specific examples of men grooming
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Speaker 6: specific women, and in the documentary we spoke to two
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Speaker 6: of those women, one in Buenos Ayre's Argentina and one
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Speaker 6: on the West coast of the US, who both alleged
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Speaker 6: that they personally were groomed by senior members of Andrew
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Speaker 6: Tates warrem.
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Speaker 1: That's not all. I'll take a listen our cut tin,
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Speaker 1: Lucy Williamson BBC.
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Speaker 5: The prosecution also says that women were forced by the
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Speaker 5: defendants to make pornographic content online, and alleges that some
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Speaker 5: women did not control the money they made and were
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Speaker 5: fined for crying on camera for not working hard enough.
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Speaker 5: As spokeswoman for the Take Brothers said that they vehemently
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Speaker 5: denied the serious allegations against them.
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Speaker 1: Joining me an allstar panel to make sense of what
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Speaker 1: we know right now. Straight out to senior investigative reporter
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Speaker 1: for the Dailymail dot Com, Caitlin Becker. Caitlyn, thank you
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Speaker 1: for being with us. Forty five known alleged victims. There
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Speaker 1: are actually victims in multiple countries. That's not unusual. Do
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Speaker 1: you remember the initial search for Natalie Holloway. We were
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Speaker 1: us Not only US, but many other journalists and law
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Speaker 1: enforcement were looking at the islands nearest to Aruba, including
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Speaker 1: the Netherland Antilles, thinking she had been removed from the
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Speaker 1: island for sex trafficking. That is a part of sex trafficking.
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Speaker 1: You remove the victim from their home, from their money,
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Speaker 1: from their cell phone, from their driver's license, their ID,
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Speaker 1: and they're stuck with you and nowhere to go, and
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Speaker 1: they're being beaten and drugged and they're taken away from
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Speaker 1: their home. The fact that this conspiracy to sex traffic
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Speaker 1: is in many countries. It's hard for some people to believe,
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Speaker 1: but this is the way sex trafficking works. Who is
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Speaker 1: Andrew Tate, Titlan Well, Nancy.
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Speaker 7: It's the way sex trafficking work. But it's also the
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Speaker 7: way the Internet works. And Andrew Tate's claim to fame
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Speaker 7: is on the Internet. I mean he had a short
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Speaker 7: lived stint on British Big Brother, but really he became
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Speaker 7: known in online circles for being kind of a king
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Speaker 7: of misogyny and teaching men how to be men, which
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Speaker 7: involved subjugating and harassing women. He had very popular online courses.
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Speaker 7: He had one that called something Hustlers, and that was
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Speaker 7: more of his public one, and then this war Room
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Speaker 7: that you've been hearing was his private one. But he
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Speaker 7: also had very popular social media accounts where he propagated
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Speaker 7: this type of bullying and misogyny and as you heard,
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Speaker 7: essentially allegedly grooming and he garnered thousands and thousands and
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Speaker 7: thousands of followers. And for war Room particularly, you had
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Speaker 7: to pay the equivalent of what is about eight thousand
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Speaker 7: dollars to join. So he's then profiting off of this
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Speaker 7: and prowling like minded men to listen to the types
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Speaker 7: of sort of vile information that he's viewing. So the
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Speaker 7: conspiracy goes far and wide. You not only have Andrew
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Speaker 7: and Tristan Kate, the brothers who were at the head
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Speaker 7: of this, that's sort of the head of the stake,
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Speaker 7: but you also have all of those war room members.
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Speaker 7: You can imagine how far this can go. I mean,
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Speaker 7: we have alleged victims. There are seven in the indictment,
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Speaker 7: and they are from all over the world, several in Europe,
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Speaker 7: at least one in the the United States. All of
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Speaker 7: their identities are being protected. We are also hearing potentially
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Speaker 7: forty five others from these leaked telegram messages that the
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Speaker 7: BBC obtained. But Nancy, those messages are only for one year,
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Speaker 7: so you have to imagine in one year if there's
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Speaker 7: forty five potential victims. I can't even fathom how many
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Speaker 7: that could be if we add in all of the
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Speaker 7: other years that we don't have the messages.
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Speaker 1: For time stories with Nancy Grace. Believe it or not,
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Speaker 1: this perv Andrew Tate has nearly nine million followers on
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Speaker 1: the social media platform x also known as Twitter. He
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Speaker 1: repeatedly claims prosecutors have no evidence against him and that
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Speaker 1: there is a conspiracy to quote silence him. Okay, when
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Speaker 1: you start talking about conspiracies, you'll lose me. Remember everybody
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Speaker 1: said the LAPD had a conspiracy against Oj simptom to
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Speaker 1: frame him for double murder. Bs Like you think one
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Speaker 1: of those cops would take a million dollars for a
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Speaker 1: tell all book about the so called conspiracy to frame
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Speaker 1: OJ Simpson. Yeah, it's my understanding and my experience. It's
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Speaker 1: too difficult for people to keep the pyhole shut in
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Speaker 1: a conspiracy. Even social media is shunning him. He's been
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Speaker 1: banned from multiple social media platforms for misogynistic woman hating
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Speaker 1: views and hate speech. What more do we know about
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Speaker 1: Andrew Tate and his freaky brother I know this. They're
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Speaker 1: rolling in money. Remainian authorities sees fifteen luxury cars, fourteen
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Speaker 1: designer watches, and cash in several currencies that's weird, worth
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Speaker 1: around four million dollars. These two women haters and allege
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Speaker 1: sex traffickers are making a mint online. Look, this isn't
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Speaker 1: just a single instance. Over three hundred million dollars US
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Speaker 1: dollars was seized. That is the tip of the iceberg.
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Speaker 1: With how many people this guy is controlling and how
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Speaker 1: many women are being subjected to sex trafficking, forced pornography,
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Speaker 1: being raped, being beaten. In his chats screenshots purported messages
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Speaker 1: from the quote war Room, Tate describes women as quote
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Speaker 1: targets and assets, and explains how to isolate and manipulate women.
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Speaker 1: In one message, this woman hater describes how he isolated
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Speaker 1: one woman until she quote lost her support networks at home,
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Speaker 1: and he kept her in his compound quote and this
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Speaker 1: tastes like a dirt sandwich to me. The real goal
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Speaker 1: is for her to agree to never go anywhere without me,
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Speaker 1: not even her hometown. I need her working. This is
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Speaker 1: from his screenshots. He appears to seek help from his
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Speaker 1: associates to force one woman to post sexually explicit content
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Speaker 1: on only fans. He tells his followers he'll be making
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Speaker 1: the play tonight. Since she moved to his compound, she's
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Speaker 1: been fed, but nothing else. These are his words. She's broke,
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Speaker 1: she can't go home, she can't leave the house. Man,
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Speaker 1: I sound almost evil, Guys, this is such a huge operation.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to Hour Cut too. Lucy Williamson.
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Speaker 5: The charge of human traffic is an umbrella charge, and
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Speaker 5: within that there are several counts against each of the
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Speaker 5: four defendants. We're also getting some information from the organized
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Speaker 5: crime Unit about the assets that have been seized properties, cars,
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Speaker 5: luxury watches, but also more than three hundred million US
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Speaker 5: dollars in cryptocurrency. And we're told that there are separate
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Speaker 5: charges that are still under investigation that may be the
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Speaker 5: subject of a separate indictment in the future.
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Speaker 1: Think about it. How many times have I told a
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Speaker 1: jury don't turn away. Think about what's happening around you.
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Speaker 1: Think about these facts, young women being forced into sex
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Speaker 1: rate Think about it. Do you have a daughter, a mother,
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Speaker 1: a sister. Think about her being forced into sex, isolated
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Speaker 1: from her family to the tin of this guy making
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Speaker 1: at least three hundred million dollars. Nancy Man, I hear
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Speaker 1: someone jumping in. Who is it? Nancy?
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Speaker 8: This is Don Shiller.
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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Don Schiller and joining as training
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Speaker 1: director for the La County Project with Coalition to Abolish
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Speaker 1: Slavery and Trafficking. She's the best selling author of The
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Speaker 1: Road through Wonderland, Surviving John Holmes down. Please jump in.
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Speaker 8: Go ahead, Thank you, thank you. I also call myself
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Speaker 8: a lives experience expert in and that's what we do
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Speaker 8: when we go out and teach and train around human trafficking.
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Speaker 8: So when I hear the word grooming a lot, what
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Speaker 8: really applies to is the recruitment. Grooming is recruitment under
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Speaker 8: the umbrella of what is human trafficking. I'm luring somebody
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Speaker 8: in on their vulnerabilities based off of mes for love
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Speaker 8: and attention whatever that is, because they didn't have it
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Speaker 8: at home. It's really a classic form of recruitment into
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Speaker 8: where the victim is then now kept in by four
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Speaker 8: Spraud and coersion and coorsion is all types of things.
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Speaker 8: The fraud is this promise of love that never turns
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Speaker 8: into love as always like having to force you into
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Speaker 8: doing something.
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Speaker 1: Guys, I'm looking online at Andrew Tate's leaked text. Wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, this is about maximum difficulty you experience in
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Speaker 1: the business. If we all agree on that, I'll give
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Speaker 1: you a play by play of what I try. I
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Speaker 1: do this for every girl I get to work. If
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Speaker 1: you guys see the value, you guys can use your
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Speaker 1: bottom bitch to do whatever G is doing. You are
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Speaker 1: never going back to your hometown even to visit without
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Speaker 1: me you understand that is part of his technique. These
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Speaker 1: are his words, not mine. It goes on and on
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Speaker 1: and on. One definitive accused of raping one woman twice
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Speaker 1: using intimidation, constant surveillance and claims in the victims were
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Speaker 1: in depth Take a loss that our cut eight from BBC.
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Speaker 5: Prosecutors outlined the testimony and the evidence against Andrew Taate.
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Speaker 5: It includes transcriptions of text and audio messages which appear
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Speaker 5: to show how the alleged trafficking operation was managed and
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Speaker 5: the apparent coercion, control and abuse of women by mister
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Speaker 5: Tate and his co defendants. In one transcribed exchange, Andrew
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Speaker 5: Tate appears to coerce an alleged victim into group sex
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Speaker 5: using abusive language. His brother Tristan is also quoted in
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Speaker 5: prosecution transcripts allegedly talking about slaving women for ten to
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Speaker 5: twelve hours a day.
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Speaker 1: Slaving wheremen from ten to twelve hours a day. Okay
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Speaker 1: to doctor Joni Johnston, forensic psychologist and private investigator, author
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Speaker 1: of Serial Killers. One hundred and one question true crime
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Speaker 1: fans ask doctor Johnny, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 1: Explain what's happening here?
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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I think this scale, the potential scale
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Speaker 9: of what is going on is mind boggling. But the
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Speaker 9: actual techniques that we're hearing about, I mean, how many
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Speaker 9: times do we heard these Nancy, you know, just isolating
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Speaker 9: people from their loved lines, from people they care about,
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Speaker 9: the abuse, the coercion. I mean, it's we've heard this
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Speaker 9: in a million different ways. It's the way to isolate
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Speaker 9: and control your victims, and it's, you know, it's something
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Speaker 9: we've heard over and over again.
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Speaker 1: Guys, you think this hasn't happened before, It's happened so
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Speaker 1: many times before, sex cults, and it's always women and
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Speaker 1: children who are subjugated, who are raped, who are sodomized,
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Speaker 1: who are forced into pimping out for other guys. Take
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Speaker 1: listen to our cut nineteen. We're talking about Nexium. Listen.
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Speaker 10: Alison Mack is doing court facing sex trafficking charges after
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Speaker 10: being accused of involvement in helping to recruit women as
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Speaker 10: alleged sex slaves for a secret sorority within an organization
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Speaker 10: called Nexium.
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Speaker 1: Based out of Albany, New York.
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Speaker 10: Mac gave a testimonial for the group.
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Speaker 1: When I first came, I had on the surface something
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Speaker 1: that seems to be like the perfect life for a
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Speaker 1: pretty good life.
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Speaker 10: Keith Rinieri, the leader of Nexium, is facing charges including
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Speaker 10: sex trafficking and forced labor conspiracy related to that secret sorority.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum joining me, Founder and director of the Cold
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Speaker 1: Case Research Institute. You can find for at coldcasecrimes dot org. Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Nexium is a US
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Speaker 1: based sex cult where people were actually allowed being branded
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Speaker 1: and beaten right here under our nose, including celebrities. The
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Speaker 1: only thing different here with Andrew Tate is he's rubbing
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Speaker 1: our face in it. It's right here on the internet.
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Speaker 1: He's going out to the most expensive restaurant he can
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Speaker 1: and videoing his celebration after getting to walk free on
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Speaker 1: this Nazi.
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Speaker 11: I think some terminal here is going to be important.
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Speaker 1: Terminology, Yes, h were in. How is terminology going to
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Speaker 1: put this guy behind mars? Terminology? What does that matter
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Speaker 1: to me?
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Speaker 11: Because they need to understand who he is. They keep
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Speaker 11: using words like who's they today? On the show, people
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Speaker 11: have said grooming. That implies over time. Listen to me
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Speaker 11: very carefully. There are three types of pimps. There's the
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Speaker 11: CEO pimp, there's a robo pimp, and there's the gorilla pimp.
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Speaker 11: The ceo pimp is all about money. He only cares
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Speaker 11: about money. She's an object. He's going to make money.
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Speaker 12: He owns her.
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Speaker 11: The robo pimp may tell her, hey, you're my wife,
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Speaker 11: you're my woman, put his name on her neck, tattoo
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Speaker 11: her as property, but she believes they're together. Then you've
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Speaker 11: got the gorilla pimp. He's going to bust you in
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Speaker 11: your face, shoot you up with heroin, and you are
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Speaker 11: a six slave in fifteen minutes. And here's the thing.
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Speaker 11: The gentleman that is doing all of this. He can
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Speaker 11: go from a ceo pimp to a gorilla pimp, or
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Speaker 11: a Roman pimp to a gorilla pimp. And that's what
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Speaker 11: you're seeing here. He promised them love and marriage and
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Speaker 11: the next thing they know, they're beaten, laying on the
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Speaker 11: cement floor, working eight hours a day with no brain.
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Speaker 1: And when you say working eight hours a day, what
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Speaker 1: you mean is enduring rape after rape after rape after
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Speaker 1: rape after rape. And the pimp gets the money. Does
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Speaker 1: the arrest of Andrew Tate and his creepy brother spell
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Speaker 1: the end of the so called manosphere? You know, like Hemisphere,
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Speaker 1: but manosphere the controversial. That's one way to put it.
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Speaker 1: Influencer Andrew Tate reportedly will be extradited to the UK
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Speaker 1: this after a grainy footage from police shows a man
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Speaker 1: dubbed the quote King of Toxic Masculinity being arrested in
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Speaker 1: the Death of the Night along with his cree and
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Speaker 1: hauled into a Bucharist court in handcuffs. Within hours, a
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Speaker 1: judge approves the extradition of Andrew and Tristan Tate to
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Speaker 1: the UK, where they now face charges of sex aggression
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Speaker 1: in a case that dates back to two thousand and fifteen.
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Speaker 1: But the judge says the Tate brothers won't actually be
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Speaker 1: sent to the UK until they face trial in Romania
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Speaker 1: on separate charges of human trafficking, rape and forming a
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Speaker 1: criminal group to exploit women. Tate, now thirty seven, describes
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Speaker 1: himself as a misogynist. He's a British American social media influencer,
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Speaker 1: a former professional kickboxer, and has around nine million followers
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Speaker 1: on x formerly Twitter. Of course, many of them are
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Speaker 1: just schoolboys Hello. Multiple women in multiple countries accuse him
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Speaker 1: of rape, sex assault and trafficking, and I'm bragging about
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Speaker 1: the crimes on social media? Where's the US and all
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Speaker 1: of this? You want to tell me he has not
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Speaker 1: exploited women from the US. Well, let's go back to
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Speaker 1: the beginning. To you, Taitlin Becker, Senior investigator reporter dalimil
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Speaker 1: dot com. Could you please explain Obviously I'm not doing
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Speaker 1: a good job, and I accept that you can do
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Speaker 1: much better than me, explaining what kind of hate and
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Speaker 1: vitriol Andrew tait spews. What does he say?
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Speaker 7: Well, first and foremost, Nancy, just to sort of put
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Speaker 7: the pimp question to bed, he sorry for the really
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Speaker 7: poorly timed pun. There too, He himself at a course
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Speaker 7: called PhD in the war room. This is where the
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Speaker 7: conversations that you were reading came from. And PhD stands
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Speaker 7: for pimpin hose degree, So he was doing doing this
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Speaker 7: very much in plain sight.
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Speaker 1: You know what, you are so polite? I am not
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Speaker 1: PhD pimpin' hooes degree. That's what he calls women, ladies, whoes,
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Speaker 1: pimping whoores degree. Now, if he were just those are
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Speaker 1: just words. I can't proscue some money for words unless
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Speaker 1: they're terroristic threats. But these aren't just words. Where do
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Speaker 1: you think he's getting three hundred million dollars plus more
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Speaker 1: women are being raped and subjugated and trafficked because of
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Speaker 1: Andrew Take's cult like members that he creates. Go ahead, please,
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Becker.
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Speaker 7: Well, on top of that, Nancy, with the money, he
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Speaker 7: essentially ran a pyramid scheme with his Hustlers University. That
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Speaker 7: was his more public platform. It was fifty bucks month
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Speaker 7: and they he essentially gave people advice on how to
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Speaker 7: be a better man and how to get wealthy, and
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Speaker 7: how to control women. And then he would have those
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Speaker 7: members go and recruit other members. So he's running this
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Speaker 7: sort of pyramid scheme on one side that I think
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Speaker 7: at one point had something like over one hundred thousand subscribers,
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Speaker 7: in addition to this other war room, which was certainly
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Speaker 7: more nefarious, and we know from those leaked text messages
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Speaker 7: that they spoke about women in just the most degrading terms,
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Speaker 7: and they spoke about actions with women, about how they
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Speaker 7: wanted to basically enslave them, how they wanted them to
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Speaker 7: not have any control, like you said, very cult like,
25:42
Speaker 7: very much cult like, not have any control over their finances,
25:46
Speaker 7: not be able to control what they did, what they wore,
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Speaker 7: what they eat, who they saw, and also separate them
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Speaker 7: from their families. So those are sort of the actionable
25:55
Speaker 7: things that he's accused of doing. But what it comes
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Speaker 7: down to is he had a lot of these women
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Speaker 7: allegedly performing online on something like OnlyFans, which is another
26:05
Speaker 7: subscription based service, and different kinds of pornography sites which
26:09
Speaker 7: are other subscription based services, So he would allegedly get
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Speaker 7: the money in from that while forcing these women for
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Speaker 7: ten twelve hours a day to perform these sex acts
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Speaker 7: against their will. And these can be done anywhere because
26:23
Speaker 7: everything is online.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, I need you right now to help me explain.
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Speaker 1: Then I'm going to go to our other all star guests.
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Speaker 1: First of all, a renowned international attorney is joining us,
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Speaker 1: greg Algrin and Lee Reber, incredible forensic detective. Cheryl, I'm
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Speaker 1: not making it clear. I don't think I need you
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Speaker 1: to help me. I cannot expect everyone in this room
26:51
Speaker 1: or everyone listening right now to understand the outrage that
26:54
Speaker 1: I'm feeling. I think you have to go, and you
26:59
Speaker 1: have to either be a sex assault victim yourself, which
27:02
Speaker 1: guess what you'd be really surprised about the people you
27:06
Speaker 1: know that are sex assault victims that have never mentioned it,
27:13
Speaker 1: you'd be very surprised unless you are a sex assault victim,
27:17
Speaker 1: or have worked with sex assault victims, or you have
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Speaker 1: gone and you have seen for yourself the lives of
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Speaker 1: these women in the back of the Neil salon, in
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Speaker 1: the back of the massage parlors, in the apartments the
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Speaker 1: houses where they are beaten and drugged and raped by
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Speaker 1: multiple men a day, and their lives are torn apart
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Speaker 1: and they are never the same. The beatings, the humiliations,
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Speaker 1: these women, these girls just go numb. And while I
27:55
Speaker 1: often say, yeah, you can go on, you can go
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Speaker 1: forward in a life, Yeah you can, but they are
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Speaker 1: forever wounded. They're psyche is forever messed up. Help me, Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: I can't describe the stench, the smell, the anguish, the
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Speaker 1: numbness that these women are living through right now. While
28:19
Speaker 1: we're talking about which word to use, they're being reaped
28:22
Speaker 1: and sodomize and mean right now.
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Speaker 11: Cheryl Antey, I think you're doing a beautiful job that
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Speaker 11: I know. For us on the street level and law enforcement,
28:31
Speaker 11: it is so difficult when you find a location and
28:34
Speaker 11: you kick that door in and you see somebody that's
28:37
Speaker 11: about twelve years old, and they're scared to death to
28:40
Speaker 11: come to you. They're scared to death to talk. They
28:44
Speaker 11: will not give the person's name up, they will not
28:46
Speaker 11: tell what's been happening. They don't want to be reunited
28:50
Speaker 11: with their families. Everything in their life is upside down.
28:55
Speaker 11: And when you're talking about trying to help somebody and
28:59
Speaker 11: you know, bring them back home and get them to
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Speaker 11: a place where they can maybe even go back to school,
29:04
Speaker 11: it's almost impossible.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Cheryl hold On, I want to talk about grown women. Okay,
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Speaker 1: and yes, everything you just said was right. But these women,
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Speaker 1: it's like the ladies that I work with at the
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Speaker 1: Batter Women's Center. They're so beaten and beaten down and
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Speaker 1: drugged and it's horrible. I mean, think about it.
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Speaker 11: It's not much different for us. Since she's twenty one
29:29
Speaker 11: or thirty five, everything has been flipped for her. The
29:34
Speaker 11: paranoia is real. The drugs they were giving them is real,
29:38
Speaker 11: The beatings are real. So you are so afraid to
29:41
Speaker 11: go against that person. It doesn't matter what somebody in
29:43
Speaker 11: law enforcement says, what somebody in your family says.
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Speaker 12: You believe this person that's.
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Speaker 11: Been beaten you, there's been drugging you, that's been sexually
29:52
Speaker 11: assaulting you, is still in control of you, even if
29:55
Speaker 11: they've been taken to jail.
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Speaker 8: This is Don Schiller again. I don't think I am
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Speaker 8: a survivor of all all of that. That is exactly
30:01
Speaker 8: what I went through. I went through that with John Holmes.
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Speaker 8: I went through that with almost six years of being hidden,
30:07
Speaker 8: being beaten, being addicted to drugs, being forced into prostitution,
30:12
Speaker 8: being forced into crime. I did all of that. I
30:15
Speaker 8: know that trauma is a life sentence. So I feel
30:17
Speaker 8: you and I hear you on that on a big level,
30:20
Speaker 8: on a big level, and I do care about these women,
30:23
Speaker 8: and I understand what they're going through. What he's doing,
30:26
Speaker 8: I agree with you one hundred percent is absolutely egregious.
30:29
Speaker 8: That he's just throwing it in people's faces is even
30:31
Speaker 8: more insulting to survivors, and the victims who are still
30:34
Speaker 8: out there are scared to death to speak up. You
30:37
Speaker 8: don't know you're a victim when you are coming out
30:39
Speaker 8: of that. You've been brainwashed into believe in that you
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Speaker 8: did it to yourself, if you consented to all of that.
30:45
Speaker 8: That's part of the tactic that they use. That's part
30:48
Speaker 8: of the way that these women are trapped.
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Speaker 1: Climb stories with Nancy Grace. Andrew Tait actually rose to
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Speaker 1: fame when he was kicked off the British version of
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Speaker 1: our TV show Big Brother back in twenty sixteen. Now,
31:16
Speaker 1: this was after the release of a video that appeared
31:19
Speaker 1: to show him attacking a woman. He claims it was
31:23
Speaker 1: edited and that it's a quote lie to make me
31:25
Speaker 1: look bad. Yeah right, I'm gonna believe you are my
31:28
Speaker 1: lying eyes chew on that Tate. He's been banned from
31:33
Speaker 1: other social media platforms like Insta, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube for
31:37
Speaker 1: some reason, he's still on Twitter slash x. Now briefly,
31:43
Speaker 1: Twitter Akax did band Tate because he wrote women should
31:49
Speaker 1: bear quote some responsibility quote for being sex assaulted. Okay, yeah,
31:57
Speaker 1: but then he was reinstated. Why why Musk? Why Elon
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Speaker 1: Musk was he reinstated. Tate has videos with the hashtag
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Speaker 1: Andrew Tate that have been watched literally billions, that's billion,
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Speaker 1: with b as a brother on the TikTok platform, making
32:19
Speaker 1: him one of the most viewed figures spewing his hatred.
32:25
Speaker 1: Greg Augrin is joining us as well as Lee Reeber. Greg,
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Speaker 1: high profile international lawyer with the us h MX Law Group.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this more of the messages and the misogynistic
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Speaker 1: hate spewed by this alleged sex trafficker. This is in
32:45
Speaker 1: his wor room instructs members to quote punish victims that
32:49
Speaker 1: would be women for transgressions by having her get our
32:54
Speaker 1: name tattooed on her. One group leader called a general,
33:01
Speaker 1: describes how he hit a woman in the head with
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Speaker 1: her own keyboard when she complained about something. The woman
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Speaker 1: who worked for him then went in the room and
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Speaker 1: worked seven hours without a break. It goes on and
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Speaker 1: on and on about how to beat and control women
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Speaker 1: to perform pornographic acts. Group sex, many online, many on screen.
33:28
Speaker 1: Greg Algrin is joining us. Greg. A lot of what
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Speaker 1: I know from these alleged messages of Andrew Tates I
33:39
Speaker 1: can't bring myself to repeat on the air. But let
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Speaker 1: me ask you, what can the US do about it?
33:47
Speaker 1: Because there are so many victims here, I believe, including
33:51
Speaker 1: one victim whose name has somehow been leaked, and all
33:55
Speaker 1: these a holes working for Tait or working on undertake
34:01
Speaker 1: have actually started trolling her and sending this woman death threats.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what are we going to do about it?
34:08
Speaker 1: And what can we do about it?
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Speaker 12: Sure, so the situation is just it it's so outrageous
34:14
Speaker 12: that it cries out for legal accountability. And I think,
34:21
Speaker 12: you know, eventually it has to catch up with all
34:25
Speaker 12: of them in a permanent right. Because Andrew Tate is
34:30
Speaker 12: a citizen by birth of the United States, and so
34:34
Speaker 12: he can flee the country, but he can't. He can't
34:36
Speaker 12: lose a citizenship. And that means the US, with his
34:41
Speaker 12: network of mutual legal assistance treaties, is always going to
34:46
Speaker 12: have an interest. Perhaps you know, it's a question of
34:50
Speaker 12: sort of capturing the attention of law enforcement. But the
34:53
Speaker 12: US has the means to catch up with it wherever
34:57
Speaker 12: he is and ensure there's some legal accountability. So it
35:02
Speaker 12: needs to happen a lot of times. It's very very slow,
35:05
Speaker 12: it's bureaucratic, but it's a process that is it can
35:10
Speaker 12: be virtually impossible to escape from once it gets started.
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Speaker 12: So hopefully we'll see sooner rather than later that legal accountability.
35:19
Speaker 12: There's a structure for it. It just needs to be engaged.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear this Andrew take quote told
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Speaker 1: rape victim he would get her pregnant, lock her away,
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Speaker 1: allegedly find webcam workers that started crying during sex acts
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Speaker 1: on webcam and tried to coerce him into group sex,
35:47
Speaker 1: and then they started crying and so he punished them.
35:52
Speaker 1: This is his business that is making five million dollars
35:56
Speaker 1: a month. One victim claims take try to force her
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Speaker 1: to have group sex and said shut up horror when
36:05
Speaker 1: she tried to object. There are hundreds and hundreds of
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Speaker 1: pages of reported testimony and evidence verbally physically abusing these women.
36:18
Speaker 1: One woman tells prosecutor's tape would rape her while holding
36:21
Speaker 1: her head so as she couldn't move, and threatened to
36:24
Speaker 1: get her pregnant. I mean it goes on and on
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Speaker 1: and on. He would take her clothes and shoes away
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Speaker 1: from her and continue to beat her. Shut up horror.
36:37
Speaker 1: You will do as I say. I mean, it goes
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Speaker 1: on and on and on, and I'm reading you only
36:43
Speaker 1: portions of what I know. Many of these women, apparently Caitlin,
36:48
Speaker 1: are promised love and marriage and then they are transported,
36:52
Speaker 1: many of them to Romania, where they are gang rape,
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Speaker 1: sex exploited, and subjected to physical violence. There are hundreds
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Speaker 1: and hundreds and hundreds of pages of reported violence. One
37:05
Speaker 1: victim reports a take coworker, a Henchman, threatens to quote
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Speaker 1: break her teeth that she would end up in the morgue.
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Speaker 1: The women creating porn for tates brother's webcam business alleged
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Speaker 1: their income is controlled by the Tates. They are fined
37:29
Speaker 1: or punished if they start crying during a sex act,
37:34
Speaker 1: if they wipe their nose, if they take too long
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Speaker 1: on a break. It just goes on and on and on.
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Speaker 1: Book this guy, Try him and put him under the jail.
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Speaker 1: That's just my advice. Goodbye, friend,