Latest / Glovisor Podcast / How to Preserve Your Digital Legacy for Generations: Inside MyArkit with James Gebhardt (Ep 69)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What if your most important memories can live on long
- 0:03Speaker 1: after you're gone? Welcome to the Glowvisor Podcast, where we
- 0:08Speaker 1: explore business growth, communication, and personal development through real conversations
- 0:12Speaker 1: with people that make an impact. Our guest is the
- 0:15Speaker 1: founder and CEO of MyArchit, a digital legacy platform created
- 0:21Speaker 1: to help individuals and families preserve their photos, videos, stories,
- 0:26Speaker 1: and personal memories for generations. Glowvisor welcomes James Gebhardt.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Good morning.
- 0:32Speaker 1: Now, Jim, what specific problems does your business solve and
- 0:37Speaker 1: who do you help?
- 0:38Speaker 2: The main problems I try to solve is just out
- 0:40Speaker 2: of necessity. Back when I was back in about 97,
- 0:44Speaker 2: I took a road trip back with my family back
- 0:47Speaker 2: to my dad. He lives back in the middle of Iowa.
- 0:50Speaker 2: And I set a camera down and did some basically
- 0:53Speaker 2: interviewing with him about his life, about when he was
- 0:56Speaker 2: a kid. Uh, he was drafted into the Korean war.
- 0:59Speaker 2: He was there when they dropped and got there, but
- 1:01Speaker 2: he was around there when they dropped the atomic bomb,
- 1:03Speaker 2: big memories, big memories that come back. And what was
- 1:05Speaker 2: it like? And what was things, what was the prices
- 1:08Speaker 2: of things and all that kind of stuff. And it
- 1:10Speaker 2: was great to get those memories. And then he passed
- 1:13Speaker 2: away a couple of years after that. And then, so
- 1:15Speaker 2: I thought, Hey, this is great. I'll make a DVD.
- 1:17Speaker 2: I'll have that, you know? And then of course, where
- 1:21Speaker 2: was that DVD? Like five years later, it's like, Oh,
- 1:23Speaker 2: I got to find it. Where'd that go? And I
- 1:25Speaker 2: found it. Kind of, and it's kind of scratch steps. Well,
- 1:28Speaker 2: I'll just go ahead and burn another one. Well, then
- 1:31Speaker 2: what computer was it on? I mean, what format? You know,
- 1:35Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff was really a pain trying
- 1:37Speaker 2: to do another DVD. And so I also inherited half
- 1:40Speaker 2: the family photo album that was generations of pictures, old pictures.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Half the family photo album was actually lost when he
- 1:48Speaker 2: passed away, you know, from moving and all that kind
- 1:50Speaker 2: of stuff. So a lot of memories are lost. So,
- 1:53Speaker 2: you know, my brain's a little slow. So I started thinking...
- 1:56Speaker 2: How can you actually keep some of these memories? We
- 1:59Speaker 2: keep everything digital nowadays. We don't have to put things
- 2:01Speaker 2: into a photo album. We can digitize things and try
- 2:04Speaker 2: to keep them for a longer time. And I looked
- 2:07Speaker 2: around and it was just, you know, internet was starting
- 2:10Speaker 2: to get pretty fast back then. And as years go by,
- 2:13Speaker 2: it was getting better and better and better. And I
- 2:15Speaker 2: started thinking and thinking and thinking. And I decided to
- 2:18Speaker 2: come up with an idea of how you can actually
- 2:20Speaker 2: take some of your best memories, which are going to
- 2:22Speaker 2: be digital. You know, probably 99% of them maybe have
- 2:25Speaker 2: a memory or something that's going to be on your
- 2:26Speaker 2: phone or up in a cloud somewhere or on your laptop.
- 2:30Speaker 2: And I figured let's create some place where we can
- 2:32Speaker 2: actually save those digital memories, archive them. And so that's
- 2:39Speaker 2: kind of where we kind of came up with a
- 2:40Speaker 2: little bit of the name of my ARC it as
- 2:43Speaker 2: an archiving your digital memories. And so you can take
- 2:48Speaker 2: the best of what you actually, you know, experienced in life.
- 2:51Speaker 2: And people use genealogy all the time. They're looking back.
- 2:55Speaker 2: They look back all through their, you know, their family
- 2:58Speaker 2: trees and stuff like that. And they want to find
- 2:59Speaker 2: out what their great, great, great, great grandfather was like.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Someday you're going to be on somebody's family tree and
- 3:05Speaker 2: they're going to look at your life. What are they
- 3:07Speaker 2: going to find? Just when you lived, when you're born,
- 3:11Speaker 2: when you passed away, when you got married, you know,
- 3:14Speaker 2: let's give them something more to hash over.
- 3:16Speaker 1: Now, I have tons of that stuff in my garage
- 3:19Speaker 1: that's in all different formats and all that, which I'm
- 3:24Speaker 1: sure it's going to be a nightmare. So what do
- 3:26Speaker 1: I have to do if I join my ArcGate? Am
- 3:29Speaker 1: I uploading all of this right online so I don't
- 3:34Speaker 1: have to send it anywhere? Or how does that work?
- 3:37Speaker 2: It's very simple. I want to try to keep things
- 3:39Speaker 2: very simple and very secure. So our first line of
- 3:44Speaker 2: defense was we upload one memory at a time. I
- 3:50Speaker 2: had a discussion one time with my father-in-law. He says,
- 3:52Speaker 2: I'm just going to take all my photos and upload them.
- 3:54Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to myself, it defeats the purpose. We
- 3:59Speaker 2: want you to put memories to those pictures and to
- 4:02Speaker 2: those videos or even writings. You want to put memories
- 4:05Speaker 2: to them. You can actually upload a picture with us
- 4:07Speaker 2: and put an audio message along with that picture telling
- 4:10Speaker 2: what that picture is all about. You can write it
- 4:13Speaker 2: down a story or you can tell a story. So
- 4:16Speaker 2: our first line of defense is we use Amazon Web Services, AWS.
- 4:20Speaker 2: So we want to try to use the big guys.
- 4:22Speaker 2: We don't want to try to have servers in our
- 4:24Speaker 2: home or something like that. We want to use the
- 4:26Speaker 2: big guys that are very professional about keeping these type
- 4:28Speaker 2: of things. As we grow bigger, we're going to backdoor
- 4:31Speaker 2: out of that over to Iron Mountain. Iron Mountain is
- 4:34Speaker 2: a huge global data allocation services that we're like 95%
- 4:39Speaker 2: of the banks use. you know, Iron Mountain to backup
- 4:44Speaker 2: all their stuff. So we want to be super, super
- 4:47Speaker 2: secure about what you upload. And you take one memory
- 4:50Speaker 2: at a time, you put a good story to it,
- 4:52Speaker 2: you can date it and all that kind of stuff,
- 4:54Speaker 2: and then you arc it.
- 4:55Speaker 1: So now what happens if one of these memories or
- 4:59Speaker 1: servers somewhere where it's stored at one of these companies,
- 5:03Speaker 1: what happens if anything happens to one of those? Can
- 5:07Speaker 1: I still recover my photos or any of those memories?
- 5:11Speaker 2: Well, that's why we try to use the multiple backup system. First,
- 5:16Speaker 2: what you should always do is, and I also do
- 5:18Speaker 2: some seminars, teach you probably about two or three backups
- 5:22Speaker 2: of what you have already. You can back up on
- 5:24Speaker 2: your computer. You have another hard drive you can back
- 5:27Speaker 2: up onto. Sometimes people will back up into a normal
- 5:30Speaker 2: cloud because their phone is backed up. And then you
- 5:33Speaker 2: back up to us, which puts the memory to there,
- 5:36Speaker 2: and you save it with the big guys. Something could
- 5:42Speaker 2: happen to AWS, which is their probability of doing that
- 5:46Speaker 2: is a lot better than you trying to, you know,
- 5:50Speaker 2: keep your computer running at your house or making sure your, your, your, your,
- 5:54Speaker 2: you know, your, your backup hard drive is always safe
- 5:57Speaker 2: and you don't step on it. So, you know, it's never,
- 6:00Speaker 2: nothing's always super, super secure, but we try to make
- 6:02Speaker 2: it 99.9999% secure by double, double backing up, triple backing
- 6:06Speaker 2: up as much as you possibly can. Yeah.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Redundancy is the key, for sure.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Redundancy is the key. And one memory at a time
- 6:14Speaker 2: is also the key because I had a cousin was
- 6:19Speaker 2: with one of the big ones, social media ones, and
- 6:22Speaker 2: somebody hacked his account because everything's at one place. They
- 6:25Speaker 2: did something and boom, he lost everything all in one swoop.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Now, a person signs up for MyArchit and they upload
- 6:32Speaker 1: their memory. Then they pass away.
- 6:35Speaker 2: How do their family members get access to it? You have,
- 6:38Speaker 2: when you have a lifetime account, this is one of
- 6:40Speaker 2: our services, is the lifetime account. You have what they
- 6:44Speaker 2: call an administrator. You assign an administrator. They basically email
- 6:49Speaker 2: them and say, like, my administrator is my wife. So
- 6:52Speaker 2: she becomes my administrator. If I pass away, she clicks
- 6:56Speaker 2: the administrator button, which goes over into my account, and
- 7:00Speaker 2: then she clicks a button there that says I've passed away.
- 7:02Speaker 2: In about 24 hours, that account becomes what they call
- 7:05Speaker 2: a memorial account. And the way we have it programmed
- 7:08Speaker 2: is everything I put in is locked. It cannot be deleted.
- 7:12Speaker 2: You can add stuff to it. If she wants to
- 7:13Speaker 2: add stuff more to it, she can. But everything I
- 7:15Speaker 2: have right now is now clicked. It cannot be deleted.
- 7:19Speaker 2: And it also becomes public. Anything that I had private
- 7:22Speaker 2: saved becomes public. Because I do that because, let's say,
- 7:26Speaker 2: my wife passes away or everybody in my family all
- 7:29Speaker 2: of a sudden passes away. You know how lineage goes
- 7:32Speaker 2: and things like that in different families. you would still
- 7:34Speaker 2: like to have that information or those memories to be
- 7:38Speaker 2: found someday. You just don't want to be able, only
- 7:42Speaker 2: this person can see their memories. Well, that happens if
- 7:45Speaker 2: that person passes away and now everything is up in
- 7:48Speaker 2: the cloud and nobody can see it ever. We have
- 7:52Speaker 2: it to where we'll lock everything in there and it
- 7:54Speaker 2: becomes public.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Now, when you say public, does it mean that it's
- 7:58Speaker 1: accessible with people with the link or meaning that it
- 8:02Speaker 1: can actually become a searchable memory?
- 8:05Speaker 2: It can become a searchable memory. With myARCA.com, you don't
- 8:09Speaker 2: have to be a member. A family member can be
- 8:12Speaker 2: what they call a view-only member, where basically they just
- 8:17Speaker 2: basically put a password in and put their email in. Boom.
- 8:21Speaker 2: And they can do a view-only account. And now they
- 8:24Speaker 2: do a search. And they can find, let's say they
- 8:27Speaker 2: find my name, they click on it. Oh, there's, there's, there's,
- 8:29Speaker 2: you know, his account, click on it. And now they
- 8:31Speaker 2: can see my, my, my information, all my data I
- 8:34Speaker 2: have in there. As with a person, if a person's
- 8:37Speaker 2: still living, they have to have permission to go in there.
- 8:41Speaker 2: And even if they have permission to go in there,
- 8:42Speaker 2: the stuff that is, let's say it's private. I have
- 8:45Speaker 2: it because every time you arc something, when you arc it,
- 8:48Speaker 2: you either put it as public or private. So you
- 8:51Speaker 2: get to choose what it wants to do with it. And, uh, so,
- 8:54Speaker 2: but after you pass away, it's just like, you know,
- 8:58Speaker 2: tell all the secrets, tell everybody where the, where the
- 9:00Speaker 2: gold's buried, you know, wait, I know what happened to Elvis,
- 9:03Speaker 2: you know, all that kind of stuff. You might as
- 9:05Speaker 2: well just put it out there.
- 9:06Speaker 1: This sounds like it's, it's, it was a big project
- 9:08Speaker 1: to put together. How long did this process take you?
- 9:12Speaker 2: Oh, just thinking about it probably took, Oh, because back
- 9:18Speaker 2: when you start thinking about it, um, five, six, seven
- 9:23Speaker 2: years just because technology wasn't there yet. Because you're thinking about,
- 9:27Speaker 2: you know, uploading. I always used to say you can
- 9:30Speaker 2: download with a dump truck, but you're uploading with a teaspoon.
- 9:34Speaker 2: So we now have a lot faster upload times and
- 9:38Speaker 2: stuff like that. So when people are doing, you know,
- 9:39Speaker 2: their little, you know, five minute videos, five, 10 minute videos,
- 9:42Speaker 2: things like that, they can upload in a pretty decent time.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Back 10 years ago, it was 10, 15 years ago.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was unthinkable. It took forever. I
- 9:52Speaker 2: can still remember the old, you know, the dial tone
- 9:55Speaker 2: when you're doing a upload the first, I remember the first,
- 10:00Speaker 2: this is a good memory. First Harry Potter movie came out.
- 10:03Speaker 2: They had the movie trailer to that. And we downloaded
- 10:06Speaker 2: it on my old iMac and it was about the size,
- 10:09Speaker 2: about this big on the screen. But it took about
- 10:12Speaker 2: two hours to download about 10 megabytes, something like that.
- 10:16Speaker 2: It was ridiculous. And then right in the middle of it,
- 10:18Speaker 2: somebody called. So I had to do it again. But
- 10:22Speaker 2: we had the whole family huddled around because we wanted
- 10:24Speaker 2: to see what the Harry Potter, you know, Sorcerer's Stone
- 10:27Speaker 2: trailer looked like.
- 10:28Speaker 1: When you decided to start my market, you looked around
- 10:33Speaker 1: the market and you couldn't find anything anywhere near it?
- 10:37Speaker 1: Or were you just, did you find something and say, okay,
- 10:40Speaker 1: I can make it better?
- 10:42Speaker 2: Both. I'd say both. Excuse me. There were some social
- 10:47Speaker 2: media sites out there. Most social media sites, if you
- 10:50Speaker 2: upload to them, you put your two cents worth of
- 10:54Speaker 2: opinion in there, but they don't keep your stuff. If
- 10:56Speaker 2: they're not making money off you, you will be deleted.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Other social media stuff, like when my cousin was on,
- 11:03Speaker 2: they said, oh, we'll keep your stuff. We hope. So
- 11:07Speaker 2: I didn't trust them either. And then at other sites,
- 11:12Speaker 2: there were some sites that have come and gone. Other
- 11:15Speaker 2: places were really expensive. Oh, you want to keep 10 gigabytes,
- 11:18Speaker 2: 100 gigabytes of memory? It was almost $ 1, 000. It's a
- 11:24Speaker 2: lot cheaper nowadays. And then it became also just besides
- 11:31Speaker 2: your saving a memory, picture, video, your writings or whatever
- 11:37Speaker 2: like that, how to share it, how to add to it,
- 11:40Speaker 2: how to edit it. A lot of these places we
- 11:43Speaker 2: have now, there's been an explosion nowadays about people, oh,
- 11:47Speaker 2: come and get your, like a book made or something
- 11:50Speaker 2: like that, or a picture with a QR code. You
- 11:53Speaker 2: click on that, you can hear them. But that deletes
- 11:56Speaker 2: some of the things where you want to add to it.
- 12:00Speaker 2: We want to be able to have people, I'm going
- 12:01Speaker 2: to add to that. Boom, you click into it, you
- 12:04Speaker 2: add to it, you can change a little bit of information. Oh,
- 12:06Speaker 2: it wasn't that year, it was this year. Oh, yeah,
- 12:08Speaker 2: I remember it. So I want to be able to
- 12:09Speaker 2: have an ongoing, that's what we call a lifetime account.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Ongoing thing where you're actually adding, changing, maybe even deleting stuff.
- 12:19Speaker 2: But a lot of places like that do not do that.
- 12:23Speaker 2: And so we wanted to have something that was, I
- 12:24Speaker 2: think we're one of the top tier companies doing this anywhere.
- 12:31Speaker 2: Probably if there's a top three companies out there, we're
- 12:35Speaker 2: probably one of the top three.
- 12:36Speaker 1: So it sounds to me like it's lifetime. and beyond
- 12:39Speaker 1: because then it goes public and everyone has access to it.
- 12:43Speaker 2: Oh, then yeah, let, let, let the dogs bark. You
- 12:48Speaker 2: get the.
- 12:48Speaker 1: Opportunity to work with many different people. Uh, do you
- 12:51Speaker 1: have a success story of someone who's utilized your service?
- 12:55Speaker 2: Oh, one of the best ones I could think of is, um,
- 12:58Speaker 2: if you're familiar with the, uh, Seattle area, there was
- 13:01Speaker 2: a gentleman who was a, uh, uh, Seattle, uh, Seattle pirate, uh, um, Seattle,
- 13:08Speaker 2: Seafair Days, I think that's what it's called. And he
- 13:13Speaker 2: was diagnosed with, I think it was stage four cancer.
- 13:17Speaker 2: And we gave him a free account and I sat
- 13:20Speaker 2: him down and I explained to him, this is how
- 13:22Speaker 2: you do it. And I know he probably didn't have
- 13:26Speaker 2: more than six months to live. I remember he had
- 13:29Speaker 2: a great party. He had a great party at his place.
- 13:31Speaker 2: He had hundreds of people there. He had a guy
- 13:34Speaker 2: that was a, what was he a? uh, Jimi Hendrix
- 13:37Speaker 2: impersonator kind of guy. Just really, really great. And, uh,
- 13:42Speaker 2: but just showed him how to just put his, you know,
- 13:45Speaker 2: you just talk to people. You find out, um, what
- 13:49Speaker 2: he did, what he liked, um, you know, what life
- 13:54Speaker 2: like type of thing. And he just, he just, there
- 13:57Speaker 2: you go. You know, and I just know he, you know,
- 13:59Speaker 2: he'd be able to have that for his family then.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Instead of, in my case, let's say a non-success story,
- 14:06Speaker 2: was I made videos of my brother. No, I made
- 14:10Speaker 2: videos of my dad and videos of my mom. And
- 14:12Speaker 2: it's been about a week of going down and visiting
- 14:14Speaker 2: my brother, and he passed away. And I have no
- 14:17Speaker 2: videos of my brother. I got some pictures I have
- 14:20Speaker 2: when I inherited his stuff and going through his pictures,
- 14:23Speaker 2: which means nothing. My brother could tell a story. He
- 14:28Speaker 2: got this look on his face, and he'd start telling
- 14:31Speaker 2: a story, and you're just mesmerized. And I'd be laughing,
- 14:36Speaker 2: just laughing my butt off. And I don't have him
- 14:38Speaker 2: on video at all. And that's one thing I really miss.
- 14:42Speaker 2: That's what I tell people. Yeah, don't miss the times
- 14:45Speaker 2: you got. That's true.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Now, if someone signed up for a market account today,
- 14:50Speaker 1: how soon can they start uploading and sharing their stories?
- 14:53Speaker 2: What we do for people, kind of like test driving
- 14:56Speaker 2: a car. You go to myarkit.com and you'll see where
- 15:01Speaker 2: it says 30-day free trial. So you just click on that,
- 15:04Speaker 2: basically just put it, like I said, you put in
- 15:06Speaker 2: your email and whatever passcode you want. And now you
- 15:11Speaker 2: have a lifetime account for 30 days. After that 30 days,
- 15:14Speaker 2: it'll ask you, do you want to go ahead and
- 15:16Speaker 2: actually continue? If you don't want to continue with it,
- 15:20Speaker 2: it reverts to a view only account, like we talked about. Basically,
- 15:25Speaker 2: you just, boom, we click on that and you're ready
- 15:28Speaker 2: to go and start putting stuff in there. You can
- 15:29Speaker 2: see how you can upload a little video, We usually
- 15:32Speaker 2: try to go under 10 minutes just because of bandwidth
- 15:34Speaker 2: and stuff. Photos, how you add extra folders, you know,
- 15:40Speaker 2: different folders. My first video, one of my first ones
- 15:43Speaker 2: I did, I did a folder of cars. You know
- 15:46Speaker 2: how guys are. We always like our cars. And I
- 15:49Speaker 2: did about a 10 minute video of my first car.
- 15:52Speaker 2: You know, where I found it, how I redid it
- 15:54Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, but you can
- 15:56Speaker 2: make folders of weddings and pets and all that kind
- 15:59Speaker 2: of stuff. And you figure out how to do that
- 16:00Speaker 2: and how to contact people they want to go ahead and,
- 16:04Speaker 2: you know, put the families together type of thing. And
- 16:06Speaker 2: so you can do it immediately. And if you're still
- 16:10Speaker 2: thinking about it, it'll convert to a view only account.
- 16:12Speaker 2: You can go into that later on, click on a button,
- 16:15Speaker 2: hit upgrade, and then do it.
- 16:16Speaker 1: What is the single most important takeaway you want listeners
- 16:20Speaker 1: to remember from today's conversation?
- 16:22Speaker 2: Don't wait. You have your parents, grandparents, brother, sister, Sit
- 16:30Speaker 2: them down and just have fun getting some memories from
- 16:33Speaker 2: them because someday they're not going to be here. If
- 16:38Speaker 2: you want to use a different format, like I said,
- 16:39Speaker 2: there's different booklets, other ways, there's a bunch of other
- 16:42Speaker 2: different companies doing things. But the biggest thing first is
- 16:45Speaker 2: you got to have the ingredients. You got to have
- 16:46Speaker 2: the creations, I call them, the collection and the creations.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Once you got that, you can go and make what
- 16:53Speaker 2: you want to do with it. But you won't have
- 16:57Speaker 2: that time again if you actually missed some of those
- 16:59Speaker 2: important times where you've missed a little opportunity to get
- 17:02Speaker 2: something from great grandma or grandma. I got a great
- 17:04Speaker 2: one the other day where my, um, I had a
- 17:06Speaker 2: picture of, uh, my daughter who lives over in Germany
- 17:10Speaker 2: right now. They're in the military over there and their kids,
- 17:12Speaker 2: my grandkids, they found an old recipe from my mom.
- 17:16Speaker 2: And this is a recipe why I had when I
- 17:17Speaker 2: was a kid. So that was my grandkids eating grandma's
- 17:22Speaker 2: great grandma's. Yeah. Great grandma. Uh, beef stew recipe and
- 17:28Speaker 2: loving it because she was able to save it. So
- 17:32Speaker 2: it was like one of those little things she passed on.
- 17:33Speaker 2: It was just a simple thing, a beef stew recipe. Yeah,
- 17:37Speaker 2: that's awesome.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Now, Jim, where can people connect with you and find
- 17:43Speaker 1: out a little bit more about MyArchit and more about
- 17:46Speaker 1: your process?
- 17:47Speaker 2: Oh, just go to MyArchit.com, M-Y-A-R-K-I-T.com. And if you want
- 17:52Speaker 2: to contact us, we're also on Facebook. Facebook, X, and Instagram.
- 18:01Speaker 2: Any one of those, MyArchit, just look it up and
- 18:03Speaker 2: you can always throw us a message like that. We
- 18:06Speaker 2: also are looking at, and also within that, we also
- 18:10Speaker 2: have events. I remember we talked a little bit about
- 18:12Speaker 2: events earlier. Events.MyArchit.com. You can always go into regular MyArchit
- 18:18Speaker 2: and hit events and find out what that's about. I
- 18:20Speaker 2: always thought that's a very important aspect of what we do.
- 18:23Speaker 2: But yeah, they can go in there. Ask questions if
- 18:26Speaker 2: you want to. A big one also, go into my
- 18:28Speaker 2: arc and hit help. We actually have a really big
- 18:32Speaker 2: support site, a separate website called Lifesaver U. You click
- 18:37Speaker 2: onto that and it'll show you a bunch of videos
- 18:40Speaker 2: on how to set something up, how to set up
- 18:43Speaker 2: an event, how to maybe do an interview, some interview questions,
- 18:47Speaker 2: things like that. We want to try to help people
- 18:49Speaker 2: as much as possible. And yeah, just hit the help
- 18:51Speaker 2: and cruise through that too.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Well, Jim, thank you so much for joining us. We
- 18:55Speaker 1: really appreciate your time and the value you shared.
- 18:58Speaker 2: Oh, thank you very much. It's a pleasure.
- 18:59Speaker 1: Thanks, everyone, for listening. If this episode inspired you, make
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- 19:09Speaker 2: Till the next time.