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#187 – Did First Wives Club age well? (w/ Kate McLaughlan · Did That Age Well?

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  Amelia Perez is too long for a hate watch.
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  It's not even worth watching. You heard it here first.
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  I hope. I hope we're recording because
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  that's the stuff that the people need to hear.
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  Fuck. It was so funny seeing it in a
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  theater full of people. That like love film?
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  Yeah. The Denver, the Denver Film
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  Festival and everyone was there to like, you know, everyone was
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  excited. I mean the tailor made it seem
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  really cool. Yeah.
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  And then you notice not a lot of dialogue, not a lot of music,
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  just a lot of like. It was like every time that they
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  started singing again, I was like.
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  Oh fuck do. You normally like musicals.
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  I'm normally fine with musicals. OK, You tolerate them?
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  I'm fine with them. There are some musicals I like,
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  some that I'm like, it's OK. But it was just sort of like, I
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  would forget that it was a musical until they started
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  singing again. And then I'd be like, Oh no.
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  Penis to vagina. Penis to vagina.
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  I saw, I saw a Muppets. Yeah, Jacob.
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  'S gonna just step out for a SEC.
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  He's jealous that he didn't write that song.
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  Yeah, let's change operation. Operation I see, I see, I see.
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  I've seen it. Two woman, woman, two man I've.
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  Obviously in that clip like a million times, but I have not
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  seen the whole thing. Oh my gosh.
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  Wow, look. Wow, what an independent.
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  Girl sniffing around, kind of checking things out.
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  Is there goose shit because she's pretty passionate about.
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  That Oh yeah, definitely OK. Well, see you later, girl.
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  Yeah. Goose shit's back there.
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  Now she's into the snacks. 00. Now that her heart rate has gone
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  down by like a million, she. Said I need to re energize.
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  I've just shaken out all of my energy, yeah.
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  OK. I love this dog.
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  All right. Are we good to go?
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  Fantastic all. Right.
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  OK, hi everybody. Welcome to another brand new
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  episode of Did that Age Well. I'm your host, Molly Smith, the
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  dog and the chomping is Laney. Laney is named after Elaine for
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  her kind of spazzy nature and we love that about her.
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  She is a dog. I don't know if I mentioned that
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  before. Thank you so much for joining
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  us, whether you're listening or watching.
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  Now that we got the business out of the way, let's get down to
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  the fun. I am so excited.
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  Long overdue. My sweet, hilarious guest, Kate
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  McLaughlin. Welcome.
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  Hi, everybody. Hi.
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  What are you up to? Kate, what's going on?
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  Well, in the precise moment, I'm on dog sitting for Laney and
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  that's why she's here. Yeah.
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  You could guess that she doesn't like to be at the house by
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  herself. And I could see that for her,
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  she's got both separation anxiety and outside of house
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  anxiety. She's got anxiety with you and
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  without you, so you might as well have her with you.
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  No winning with this little lady.
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  So but yeah, I'm just, I'm excited for the new year.
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  I'm very excited to be here. Oh my gosh, so excited to have
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  you here and happy New year to you.
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  Happy new year. What's going on with with
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  Dyktopia? With you being funny on stage?
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  Start with dyktopia. It's not happening.
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  Oh, OK, so. You're already.
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  That's not true. It's just that my.
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  So you got a boyfriend and now you're done with Dyktopia?
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  They kicked. Yeah.
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  That's why Lee moved to New York.
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  Yeah. I started sucking a Dick.
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  Yeah, I'm. And I thought about a lot of
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  people out. Of town, actually.
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  Yeah, I was just going to say I was thinking about getting out
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  of town the moment I heard. Yeah, well, get in line.
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  You've got, you've got the nose piercing do imply that's how you
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  feel. And Lee moved to New York and
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  Dyctopia. Now it's just a couple times a
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  year, Yeah, compared to our rigorous schedule when we both
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  lived here. So I'm guessing, I mean, this is
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  a real plan ahead. But yeah, I'm guessing when
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  pride comes around. Well, mark your calendars,
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  everybody. Girls gaze and Naze.
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  It's coming around before you know it.
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  Yeah, and if you want to DM me something weird about being
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  bisexual, they're open always so.
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  Always. Yeah, absolutely love that.
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  If you have any questions for boyfriends of bisexual women,
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  send them to. My God, Jared would fucking hate
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  that. You should absolutely reach out
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  to him. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Tag him. Tag him in this.
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  Share this with him. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Oh, God bless him, God bless
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  him. OK, so today we're talking about
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  First Wives Club. Thank God.
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  Tell me your history with this movie and why you wanted to talk
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  about it today. This is, well, mostly.
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  The recent passing of Diane Keaton has shook me to my core,
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  'cause I I was like, legitimately upset.
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  Even with someone I've She was mommy beyond a mother.
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  It's just straight up mommy. She really was and.
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  I am a huge fan of her and I've been watching a lot of her
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  movies recently, but this was a movie that was like always on at
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  our house. It was one of the few VHSS that
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  we had that the whole family liked.
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  I feel like it was on USA or TNT enough and it's just it was a
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  staple growing up. I love that.
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  Yeah, I love that. I feel like it's, it's kind of a
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  rite of passage, this like millennial affinity with
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  middle-aged divorced women. Like, I feel as though most
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  people in our generation, like it's sort of the, it's the first
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  wives club to Real Housewives pipeline where it's like we are
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  fascinated by middle-aged women's stories because, you
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  know, as Reese says, women's stories matter and middle-aged
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  women, their stories especially matter.
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  I just like, I feel like when I'm watching this movie, I'm
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  with the girls. Yeah, and even though it was a
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  mainstream movie, there was something like subversive about
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  it. A Laney fucking idiot.
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  Laney Sweet. Nick, look at this.
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  OK, Is that good? Does that sound OK?
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  I think there was something very subversive at the time of having
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  three female roles that were like supposed to be middle-aged.
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  Yes. Like, I thought that was very
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  cool. Yeah.
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  So. I agree.
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  I think it's so cool that they took this this narrative that
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  was later reserved just for teen movies like Mean Girls and John
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  Tucker Must Die. These like Let's get revenge
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  kind of movies. Which don't get me wrong, I love
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  a teen movie, but I love that this is like.
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  I mean first of all I just love watching a movie where wealth is
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  no object. Oh, it's the best.
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  It's like they're like auctioning off their stuff for.
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  And when the hundreds of thousands and when they talk
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  about being broke, it's like really different from when we
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  talk about being broke. It's really different.
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  They're like, my husband's taking everything and it's like.
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  But I still have a brownstone. No more questions.
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  They're like he's going to take $1,000,000, which is 150th of
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  what I have, yeah. I Yes, it's that fantasy like
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  that. All those women act in shows
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  like that quite a bit, I think. And I love that about that.
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  Nancy Meyers actually was was asked to direct it, but sadly
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  she was doing The Parent Trap during that time.
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  That makes perfect sense. That is such her world.
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  And I wish that it had been her because I think.
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  The director. The director was.
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  Not Nancy Meyers. That much we know.
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  That much we know. It was directed by Hugh Wilson
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  and Hugh Wilson. Wilson.
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  More like who? Wilson.
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  Laney is shaking like we are getting kidnapped.
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  Laney, do you know something that we don't?
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  Whole couch is vibrating. Laney, does someone have a hit
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  on you? Are, you know, something we
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  don't? You really?
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  Afraid of being filmed? Yeah, this is, she said.
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  I'm in witness protection. I'm sorry my leg is just like
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  jittering because her ass is rattling.
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  So now, now you're going to start feeling nervous because
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  you're like, why am I shaking? I'll forget she's there but like
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  my one leg. Is going to town.
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  It's just unsettling. Poor baby.
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  Poor baby, both of you. It was based on a novel by
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  Olivia Goldsmith, who tragically died during chin tuck.
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  She like complications due to plastic surgery.
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  Oh my God, isn't that so trigger?
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  2004 Yikes. I know, so sad.
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  I mean, cause of course the iconic introductory scene to
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  Goldie Hawn's character is she's sitting in the chair and Rob
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  Reiner RIPRIP, he's the plastic surgeon, which any I love his
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  little cameos in movies like this where you know that he just
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  had a friend that was like, hey, will you pop in for a minute?
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  Yeah, like you're delightful. Let's get you on screen.
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  Yeah, everyone will love it. It just like brings a, it brings
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  a really down from there. Like all the like the joking
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  about plastic surgery, which I love when they're like, do you
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  think she's had any work done? She goes, honey, she's a quilt.
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  Yeah, that's a blanket statement, Yeah.
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  Girl. I was so sorry.
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  That's what happens when bisexual women get boyfriends.
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  Not the first and I won't be the last.
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  And I did not come to talk about First wives club to defend this.
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  That's crazy. I think it's just because of the
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  like, defensive nature of this dog on your lap.
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  Yeah, that is letting everyone on edge.
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  Everyone's a little on edge, so let's just kind of.
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  Look at can you see my palms like jittering and holding her?
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  Girl, it's gonna be OK. Like she's more of a because I
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  said so fans. So she's upset, she's upset she
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  wanted to do swingers instead today.
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  She doesn't think women are funny.
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  And they're not, so that's it's hard for her.
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  Because she's like, well if you guys agree with me so fucking
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  much, why are we talking? And why are we talking about
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  this movie with funny women? So Robert Harling wrote the
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  screenplay. Same writer as Steel Magnolias.
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  The producer Scott Rudin was unhappy with the script.
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  He took it to his friend Paul Rudnick.
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  Who or Runic Rudnick? I don't know if I missed AD
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  there. Anyway, he said he would do it
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  as long as he was uncredited. But then Goldie Hawn also said
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  that she was like the voice of the film.
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  She's like, I came in and I was unhappy with it.
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  It was too male bashing in her words.
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  And she said they just listened to her and did what she wanted.
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  So who knows who wrote this movie?
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  What a. Weird thing to not take credit.
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  For I know. It's like Disney for the longest
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  time didn't take credit for The Nightmare Before Christmas.
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  And it's like. And then when those Hot Topic
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  shirts started popping off, they were like, we did that.
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  They were like, that was me actually.
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  Yeah, like a little bit, Yeah, a little bit like so interesting.
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  One interesting thing about me You probably don't know this
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  about me, but that was actually me, Disney to The Nightmare
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  Before Christmas. When Larry David first moved to
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  Hollywood, he told girls that he did the whistling at the
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  beginning of The Andy Griffith Show.
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  Shut up. And that was like.
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  That was his thing, yeah. Holly wouldn't know it's me.
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  As a way to, like, flirt, but like, you know, I used to do the
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  whistling. Yeah.
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  And they'd be like, can you do it now?
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  And he'd be like, I'm resting my voice like.
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  No, you cannot make that your thing if you cannot do it.
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  It would be really funny if he was like a prodigy at whistling
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  and was like, oh, I could make up a lie related to this because
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  I can back it up. I.
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  Think that before the Internet you could say whatever the fuck
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  you wanted, that is. So true.
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  Well, Oh my God, didn't. Even think about the actual
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  research that would have to go go into that and that's what
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  they were hoping to accomplish with no one directed this.
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  Absolutely. They're like no one had anything
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  to do with it. We all just blacked out and woke
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  up and we made a movie. And all of a sudden a movie was
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  made. They did talk a little bit in
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  some in some articles about how they really prioritized comedy
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  over narrative coherence. For instance, they go to the
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  lesbian bar. Why?
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  I don't care. It was.
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  Fun. It was awesome.
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  It was awesome that like, does her daughter not have a phone?
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  It doesn't matter. She needed to go to the bar and
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  track her down, she said. Where are the lesbians?
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  That's where my daughter is. It was also a lot easier to do
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  narrative things when cell phones weren't ubiquitous,
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  because that is like a thing, right?
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  People used to have to do if they wanted to talk to somebody.
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  Right. They used to like show up to a
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  place where they're like, I'm pretty sure this is where you'll
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  be. The one gay bar in New York
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  City. And the idea that Goldie Hawn's
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  character had never been to a gay bar before, I thought, yeah.
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  Well, maybe not a lesbian. Bar That's true.
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  Yeah, that's true. But I did love that I loved the
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  lesbian daughter. I love that she's just having a
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  completely unrelated conversation with her mom and
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  she's like, I'm a lesbian. Yeah.
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  And then she said I'm going to choose a really inconvenient or.
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  How did she say it? She said I'm going to wait for a
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  perfect time to tell dad, like Christmas morning or his
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  birthday. Just the the genre of I'm gay,
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  go fuck yourself. Yeah.
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  And I love that about her. And I love that she did
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  weaponize it against him when she basically sold him out as as
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  a mole and later said she he goes into the office to learn
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  that his wife is buying him out of his ad agency.
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  And she says I'm a lesbian. That was powerful.
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  Very funny, yeah. And I just is that therapist so
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  allowed to practice girl. No okay like absolutely not.
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  She must have left her job. That's.
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  So so that she. Could be with that man, yeah.
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  Yeah. And you know what?
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  That's a great thing to say because Diane Keaton character
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  says, But you're my therapist, she said.
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  But I'm a woman. Oh.
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  My God, it's that's so crazy. I have needs too.
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  Yeah, girl. Oh.
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  Boy, that was that was my worst nightmare.
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  But do people still sit away from their therapist?
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  Do they face away in the way that Diane Keaton did in First
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  Wives Club? I've.
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  Been on Zoom therapy for so long that I don't know if that's just
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  a trope or like a way to have therapy 'cause that's like a big
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  cinematic. Trope, right?
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  Is there somebody lying down on a couch facing away from the
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  therapist who's in in an arm? I'd love to lay down and look at
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  my therapist like, yeah, just kind of like side like flopped
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  over. Yeah, that sounds ideal for
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  healing. So sorry Laney.
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  I'm so sorry for moving the couch.
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  Slightly. She looked at you.
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  It was like you killed. Her whole family, she said.
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  She said, oh, there's. One obstacle here that is
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  obviously very important to me. OK.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  Oh good, good girl, good. Girl.
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  Good girl. So what was your relationship
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  with this movie? Oh my gosh, thank you for
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  asking. I have always loved this movie.
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  I watched it growing up. I feel like it formed my love of
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  the Nancy Meyers Cinematic Universe.
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  Even though First Wives Club is not Nancy Meyers, it is kind of
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  spiritually very Nancy Meyers the spiritual.
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  Part of the Nancy Meyers Cinematic Universe.
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  Absolutely. Yeah.
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  Middle-aged women to whom money is no object.
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  Whose? Stories matter.
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  Wearing turtlenecks. Oh yes, and OK, wait, hold on.
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  I got AI, got a cosplay as Diane Keaton for a moment, button up
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  my shirt all the way and. I had a plan to wear like a vest
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  and a brooch today and it all just fell apart.
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  Yeah. Well, now, yeah, now I'm going
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  to kind of just go back to how I normally am.
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  But everyone you did know that for a moment I was channeling
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  Diane and I will continue to in a non glass force, which is like
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  a big. Diane Keaton thing that's.
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  Kind of her big thing. Not and hats, glasses and hats,
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  glasses and hats. But yeah.
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  I recently rewatched this at my friend's Bachelorette party.
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  Perfect. That is very funny.
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  Like, I hope you have fun getting married.
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  Yeah, it doesn't work out for a lot of people.
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  And I was the one who was really pulling for this movie.
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  They were like, what movie should we watch?
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  I said, you know what, I'd really like to watch something
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  the near and dear to my heart. Sorry that it's that in the 1st
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  5 minutes a woman kills herself. Oh God, I did forget that.
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  That's how the whole fucking thing started.
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  Played by stalker Channing. Fabulous.
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  A fabulous woman. Yeah.
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  I I thought it was so funny that these women, after being best
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  friends in college, they all had matching necklaces, as we saw,
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  You know, like stalker. Channing's character writes
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  sweet letters to all of them. When they meet at the funeral,
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  they forget each other's names. I know.
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  They forget each other's names, but they remember the dance
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  moves. Well, it's like that video of
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  when Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett were so gig and Tony had
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  Alzheimer's and he could still do fly me to the moon at the
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  drop of a pin. And that's so true.
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  Probably didn't know where his nose was.
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  It's like, I think that it's some physical things just stay
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  with you. Something Sometimes the music
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  lives in you and the body keeps the score.
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  He keeps the. Score And that's why they all
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  could do the dance, even though they were like, what was your
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  fucking name again? Yeah, exactly.
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  That also might be a good representation of before social
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  media, when people naturally leave your life.
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  Right. She said you could have called
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  and she said I'm unlisted. And that's the end of.
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  It and that's the end. They'll never see each other
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  again until someone dies and they see each other at a
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  funeral. First Wives Club also does I
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  think have the perfect amount of technology.
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  Like yes, a lot of things are better in the modern world, but
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  it that seems nice. Yeah, like.
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  Some people you don't need to know what they're up to all the
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  time. Imagine how annoying Goldie
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  Hawn's character would have been on her socials.
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  She would be. Selling us some vitamins.
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  Oh, she'd be. Selling those Kardashian teas
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  that make you shit. Yourself out of your mind?
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  Yeah, like. She her cameos would be like 500
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  bucks. Oh my.
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  God, Oh my. God, it'd be tough.
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  That would be really tough. It would be so tragic to she.
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  Would not go gentle into that good night.
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  Girl she would not age well you know what I'm saying?
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• 20:58
  give them a follow on social media at Spider Moving and
• 21:02
  Storage God. It's such a good movie.
• 21:06
  God, it really is. It's just like every, every
• 21:10
  scene when we meet another woman, another powerhouse, I
• 21:16
  say, oh, I'm so glad we're here 'cause we've got we've got, of
• 21:20
  course, Bette Midler and we've got Diane Keaton and Goldie
• 21:24
  Hawn, This powerful trio of hilarious women just being being
• 21:32
  their funniest. I thought that despite the fact
• 21:35
  that there was a lot of chaos in the making of this movie,
• 21:39
  because, as we've said, who wrote this?
• 21:41
  Who knows? The chemistry between these
• 21:45
  three women is undeniable, and it doesn't really matter what
• 21:49
  happens in the plot. I'm here for these women.
• 21:52
  The. The plot feels relatively
• 21:54
  cohesive. Like, yeah, it really hijinks.
• 21:57
  Yeah. They end up making a shelter for
• 22:00
  just women who are like, down bad.
• 22:02
  They don't really specify yeah, what kind of shelter it's.
• 22:06
  Just for women. And you know what?
• 22:09
  I actually. Love that created the wing I.
• 22:15
  Also love that there was like. Just for women to like.
• 22:18
  Be there, you know, just for women to be.
• 22:20
  Yeah. They said they're offering
• 22:22
  counseling services, family therapy.
• 22:27
  You know, there was like, you know, women who have been
• 22:29
  abused. I don't know.
• 22:30
  It was like anything that's happened to a woman, she can
• 22:33
  address what happened. OK, so it's like a women's
• 22:35
  Resource Center. It's kind of like that, Yeah.
• 22:38
  But they're like, our best friend killed herself, Our best
• 22:41
  friend who wouldn't have remembered my name if.
• 22:43
  Yeah. Our best friend who please don't
• 22:45
  like ask any fault questions, but she is my best friend, yeah.
• 22:50
  Sorry, was sorry was I forgot. It's like she's here in this
• 22:54
  moment with this, you know, building that we've created in
• 22:57
  her honor. But I loved that there was a
• 22:59
  crowd of people. There were news, news sources,
• 23:03
  yes, here at the opening of a women's mental health facility.
• 23:07
  And there was a like, there's a crowd gathered and I thought,
• 23:12
  that's beautiful. That's one of my favorite things
• 23:15
  of like movies and TV shows, when the press is there for
• 23:20
  something that the press would really not give a fuck about.
• 23:23
  You know. Slow Newsday.
• 23:26
  Yeah, I guess we hadn't bombed Iran yet.
• 23:28
  I guess not. It was the 90s.
• 23:30
  Not that much was happening. What can I?
• 23:33
  Kosovo hadn't been invaded yet, so.
• 23:37
  So they said, I guess we'll go to the yeah, The Post OJ Pre
• 23:40
  Kosovo, not a lot. First wives club.
• 23:44
  First wives club. That was the news, man.
• 23:48
  Wait, can I? I need to bring it back to a
• 23:50
  bummer, I'm afraid. Yes.
• 23:52
  OK, so, so the producer of this movie is Scott Rudin.
• 23:55
  I think that's how his name is pronounced.
• 23:57
  He there's kind of this Gray cloud over everything that he's
• 24:01
  been involved in because he has many allegations of abuse.
• 24:05
  Gross. Classic terror.
• 24:06
  Guy in Hollywood. Sorry, slow.
• 24:09
  Down. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
• 24:09
  wait, wait. You're not gonna believe.
• 24:11
  You're not making any fucking. Is that why you're shaking so
• 24:14
  much? Because we brought Scott Rude.
• 24:15
  She said. I don't like when when allegedly
• 24:20
  feminist films are at odds. Oh God, that's I mean what a
• 24:23
  classic move. OK, So what did this bitch do?
• 24:25
  Also, don't worry about mispronouncing his name if we
• 24:28
  think he's gross. Honestly.
• 24:30
  Yeah. Scott who?
• 24:31
  Yeah, Scott Rude is what it sounds like to me.
• 24:34
  That is so true, Scott. Rude.
• 24:38
  OK, So what did he do? He was I mean there was nothing
• 24:41
  specifically about this like nothing specifically tied to
• 24:45
  this movie, but overarching just harassment, bullying, gross, you
• 24:51
  know all of that. So there is that.
• 24:54
  Another thing that doesn't age great about this film is Heather
• 24:58
  Locklear. So she plays the ex-husband of
• 25:01
  Sorry, the new wife of Cynthia's ex-husband.
• 25:05
  Yeah. And she, she said on Zach
• 25:09
  Braff's podcast. Don't know why she was on there,
• 25:13
  but she. Hollywood is really in decline
• 25:15
  anyway. Go on.
• 25:17
  I'd love to have her if you wanted to talk about it on this
• 25:19
  podcast, Heather All, I'd love to have you.
• 25:22
  So she asked for her name to be taken off the credits.
• 25:25
  They didn't because she was so uncomfortable by that scene
• 25:30
  where the the guy is like stroking her nipple.
• 25:34
  It was just that one nipple. And that's very interesting.
• 25:38
  Just based on, I mean, it just shows the context is everything
• 25:42
  because she went on to do Boogie Nights, right, which I think had
• 25:47
  a way more hardcore. Plot and I mean.
• 25:51
  Sexual things, but I was. She must have just felt
• 25:54
  uncomfortable. I think it was because she
• 25:56
  didn't know was going to happen, you know what I mean?
• 26:00
  It was because it was because it was like in I think she was
• 26:05
  caught off guard and it wasn't. She kind of was like at first
• 26:10
  she made it sound like it was the actor who like made this
• 26:14
  choice outside of the director, but then she was like, no, it
• 26:18
  actually was a part of the script.
• 26:19
  But I was just surprised that he actually like was like touching
• 26:23
  my nip. Oh yuck.
• 26:25
  So anyway, ick ick, ick ick. Something else when I rewatched
• 26:30
  it that really shocked is they talk about Bette Midler being
• 26:34
  fat. Oh my God.
• 26:35
  Like a lot, they say. And she has the most normal ass
• 26:38
  body. She is like, truly the most
• 26:41
  like, average, Yeah, like woman. Just the most normal ass body
• 26:46
  and they're like, she's so fucking fat.
• 26:48
  They're like, sorry, I'm trying to find a specific line that I
• 26:53
  wrote down. One of them was like, hey, hold
• 26:58
  on, hold on, please. OK.
• 27:06
  Where did I, where did I write down?
• 27:08
  There's something about like they call her a little piggy.
• 27:11
  I'm guessing they say something about like living in the in the
• 27:19
  grocery aisle or something. Well that doesn't even make
• 27:24
  sense because you can't eat the food there you fucking idiots.
• 27:27
  Right. Yeah.
• 27:27
  Hello. You can't just nom, nom, nom.
• 27:30
  Oh my. God, yeah.
• 27:31
  That was something that particularly stood out to me is
• 27:34
  like, what are we doing just in terms of the plot where, Yeah,
• 27:39
  they were acting like she was grotesque when she was just a
• 27:43
  woman with a child, like. Just kind of, yeah, just kind of
• 27:49
  like very average. It was crazy.
• 27:52
  But that's the thing too, is that like all three of them are,
• 27:58
  are like very successful in their own right.
• 28:01
  They're like, they're gorgeous. They've raised these great
• 28:07
  children. They're like they're doing
• 28:09
  pretty much all the things that they've been told to do, but
• 28:12
  unfortunately they are aging and they weren't supposed to do
• 28:16
  that. They weren't supposed to age I.
• 28:17
  Just don't know why they thought that was OK.
• 28:19
  Yeah. And so they had the audacity to
• 28:21
  age, and that's why their husbands leave them because
• 28:24
  they're like, oh, I didn't sign up for this.
• 28:26
  I didn't sign up for you being old.
• 28:29
  So that's kind of the whole thing is they're like, OK, well,
• 28:33
  actually, all men are trash. They all leave us for these,
• 28:39
  like, skinnier, prettier, younger women.
• 28:44
  And so it's time to get revenge. And you know, what I love about
• 28:47
  this type of revenge is that it wasn't the lives they ruined.
• 28:51
  It was the friendship they gained along the way.
• 28:54
  You know, yeah, I do forget that that was a huge part of the plot
• 28:57
  is the lives they ruined. I thought it was just
• 29:00
  friendship. Yeah, but in their defense, the
• 29:04
  men were all being yucky. Yeah, and honestly, they all end
• 29:08
  up okay. Like everyone's fight.
• 29:10
  Yeah, Morty and Bette Midler get back together.
• 29:13
  What? Yeah.
• 29:15
  No, they don't. Yes they do.
• 29:17
  No, they don't. Yes they do.
• 29:18
  They're dancing at the end. Well, they were dancing, but I
• 29:21
  thought that it was sort of like.
• 29:23
  They were at the voice over was like we can all see it was going
• 29:26
  well for them. You know what I did get up to
• 29:31
  get a snack at the very end when they're all dancing because I
• 29:34
  was like, the movie ended 5. Minutes left and you're like
• 29:37
  it's snack. Time.
• 29:38
  And I was like, I mean, I was like, Oh yeah, the movie's over.
• 29:40
  I'm going to go get a snack. That's OK.
• 29:42
  So that was a very important. So it turns out that was
• 29:45
  important. This happens to me all the time.
• 29:48
  I went to the bathroom during the part of westward where they
• 29:52
  were that Jeffrey Wright was a robot.
• 29:55
  My God. And so then you were lost the
• 29:58
  rest of the time. And then I just, like, didn't
• 30:00
  bother to ask her. I was watching it with what
• 30:01
  happened. Yeah.
• 30:03
  And then she kept going down. And I was like, they're almost
• 30:05
  acting like he's a robot. And my roommate was like, yeah.
• 30:09
  They told us. Yeah, my God.
• 30:13
  So, yeah, they, because remember when Sarah Jessica Parker, who
• 30:16
  by the way, babe, babe, yeah, an absolute.
• 30:19
  Babe and a little baby. Yeah, we're not mad at the
• 30:21
  younger women for being hot. Of course it's not their.
• 30:24
  Fault. It's not their nothing.
• 30:26
  It's never a woman's. Fault.
• 30:27
  Never. And honestly, they do.
• 30:29
  Even though they're like, these women are so dumb, like they
• 30:33
  kind of have a fondness for them.
• 30:35
  At the same time, they're kind of like, you know what, she's
• 30:38
  young. Yeah, like the the path of being
• 30:41
  young and stupid. Yes, yes.
• 30:43
  Well, because men are also offering them all these things.
• 30:46
  Right. She's like, yeah, I want the
• 30:47
  same frame that was similar to the one in Jackie O's.
• 30:53
  That's my God. Maggie Smith.
• 30:55
  Can we ask about? Dave Maggie Smith.
• 30:56
  Oh my God, playing the like the socialite.
• 31:00
  Yeah, it's there for some reason.
• 31:03
  Yeah, they're so funny. It's like, of course these three
• 31:06
  women know the, like, the socialite of New York, and
• 31:09
  they're like, OK, well, we got to get her in on our scheme.
• 31:12
  And she's like, of course I will bamboozle this young woman.
• 31:17
  She. Could have donated so much money
• 31:20
  to the crisis, set the center up, but instead she was like
• 31:23
  what if I use my social acumen? Yeah, and she did.
• 31:30
  OK, I'm now seeing where they're like the plot is an airtight.
• 31:34
  And you know what she did use? She used her resources for good
• 31:38
  because she used those resources to bamboozle a younger woman in
• 31:43
  order to bamboozle her friend's ex-husband.
• 31:46
  Yeah, yeah. Are you a big revenge person?
• 31:49
  You know what I've always wanted to be, but I find that I'm not.
• 31:53
  I think that's OK. I don't really.
• 31:54
  Want to be able to like ruin a life but usually kind of don't.
• 32:00
  Go back to that. What do you what do you mean?
• 32:03
  I'm going to have to sit away from you and lay down on this
• 32:06
  house if we're going to do this. But but I think that I'm I don't
• 32:12
  really stick to a project long enough to see it through to the
• 32:15
  end. So your executive.
• 32:16
  Dysfunction is what's preventing you from like, billing a bunch
• 32:19
  of people. Honestly, yeah, Jesus Christ, I
• 32:21
  couldn't put it in AI, couldn't color code it.
• 32:24
  I couldn't put it on a spreadsheet.
• 32:25
  I couldn't do it in the calendar.
• 32:27
  You know what I mean? It's just like, yeah, I think it
• 32:29
  would take a lot for me to figure out like to do to do the
• 32:33
  the math of like, oh, I could set up this auction.
• 32:40
  OK. First of all, you got to get
• 32:41
  catering, you got to get, you got to hire the auctioneer.
• 32:45
  You got to find a venue, you got to like there's so.
• 32:48
  Much talking about this auction where she bought the Jackie O
• 32:52
  Yeah, like door knob or whatever.
• 32:54
  Yeah, totally. Where they're auctioning off
• 32:56
  Marty's or not Marty, one of the ex husbands, they're auctioning
• 33:00
  off his stuff so that they can get the money.
• 33:02
  Auctioning off Victor Garbo, who was Goldie Hawn's ex-husband
• 33:09
  stuff and star Jessica Parker, was, well, a fun thing.
• 33:13
  Did you? Did you watch And Just Like
• 33:15
  That? I did not watch and just like
• 33:17
  that I actually watched. I did watch the the episode
• 33:21
  where Big died, or just rather the scene where Big died because
• 33:24
  Cameron Martinez, friend of the pod, said you have to see this
• 33:28
  the. Peloton smear campaign.
• 33:31
  That was big dying. Yeah.
• 33:33
  OK, so I've seen Olive and Just Like That.
• 33:35
  And that doesn't surprise me at all.
• 33:37
  I love Sex in the City and it was a very compulsory thing once
• 33:41
  it started, whereas like, this isn't good.
• 33:43
  But I am gonna continue to watch it, of course.
• 33:46
  And Victor Garbo gets set up with Sarah Jessica Parker like
• 33:51
  in the season finale. My God.
• 33:52
  I know. Wow.
• 33:55
  That real full circle moment, yeah, wow.
• 33:57
  And. I was like, wow, you guys were.
• 33:59
  It's powerful because they were like hitting on each other at
• 34:01
  the end of First Wives Club. Yeah.
• 34:04
  So they were just meeting each other in another lifetime.
• 34:08
  God, that's so beautiful. I thought it was cool.
• 34:11
  I love that. Wow.
• 34:12
  And to the writers event, just like that, you did one thing
• 34:14
  right. I mean, I thought Shay Diaz was
• 34:19
  lightning in a bottle. I thought you are you.
• 34:22
  Are you trying to get? Yeah.
• 34:24
  Excuse me, I thought they were. A perfect character.
• 34:28
  I have never seen anything so flawless on the screen and
• 34:32
  anyone who feels otherwise, I just want you to know that the
• 34:36
  views expressed on this podcast do not reflect the values of Did
• 34:40
  That Age. OK, I'm sorry, it's four women
• 34:44
  in their 50s, like all wealthiest fuck in New York, and
• 34:47
  for some reason one of their good friends is a non primary
• 34:52
  comedian. Yeah, that gets up.
• 34:56
  Their pilot picked up for a show called Che Pasta.
• 35:04
  It's the like I'd say you can't make this up, but it's.
• 35:07
  Fictional. Someone did and someone did and
• 35:10
  it. Was just one of the most awesome
• 35:12
  things like. Laughing all the way to the
• 35:13
  bank. Yeah, Sarah Jessica Parker is on
• 35:16
  a bunch of pills because she got her, like, hip replaced.
• 35:18
  Oh yeah. And while she's on pills in the
• 35:20
  kitchen, Che Diaz fingers Miranda.
• 35:24
  Yeah, first wife's. First life's up.
• 35:27
  Sorry, I'm so first life's up. But look, look, we wouldn't have
• 35:31
  blacked out. Yeah, just.
• 35:34
  And just like that, Kate McLaughlin blacked out Exactly.
• 35:41
  Just all things in New York, I guess.
• 35:43
  And honestly, that's being women in New York.
• 35:46
  Do you have a favorite of the three?
• 35:48
  I think that my favorite is Goldie Hawn's character.
• 35:53
  I love they. Give her the funniest things to
• 35:55
  do she. Does get to be the funniest?
• 35:58
  I think that she she is so self important and I love that about
• 36:03
  her. I love that the other woman
• 36:06
  troll on her all the time for being an out of touch actor and
• 36:11
  but she really I think that her her line delivery is so perfect.
• 36:19
  I mean, all of them are. But they're so good.
• 36:20
  When she says things like there are three ages for a woman baby,
• 36:24
  District Attorney and driving Miss Daisy and like that woman's
• 36:28
  my. Favorite.
• 36:28
  They get the best lines to her. Absolutely.
• 36:31
  They do. But of course, I love, I love
• 36:35
  when Diane Keaton does that thing where she's like.
• 36:38
  Where she finally like. Yeah.
• 36:41
  Yeah, Laney. I love Laney.
• 36:44
  I'm so upset. Oh.
• 36:45
  Sorry, Laney. I didn't even think about you.
• 36:47
  Laney. Yeah.
• 36:48
  Oh yeah. Shake it out.
• 36:49
  Yeah, he's. Doing the Diane key, she's.
• 36:51
  Doing the Diane. Key Yeah, I like when finally
• 36:53
  her Valve is released in the movie and she can just be like a
• 36:56
  bitch. Yes, yeah, thank God because
• 36:59
  that bummed me out when she was refusing to acknowledge that the
• 37:03
  divorce was happening. Right when she said to her
• 37:06
  friends, she said things are great and blah, blah, blah, blah
• 37:10
  blah blah, blah, blah and we're separated.
• 37:12
  Yeah, and we're separated. That sort of repression is
• 37:16
  probably what made her daughter gay.
• 37:18
  Honestly, yeah. I think.
• 37:19
  And it probably. Was and I can send you some
• 37:22
  articles of. Look, I've got some articles and
• 37:26
  I think it's also why her why her gay daughter hated her dad.
• 37:31
  Yeah, yeah. I love, I love a child who is
• 37:36
  like, I mean, they should have called this the parent trap
• 37:39
  because she trapped her parents into.
• 37:42
  Parent Trap alternate ending. Bamboozle's dad into into being
• 37:54
  bought out of his own business. I mean, that's just crazy.
• 37:57
  You know, what I also loved is, is Goldie Hawn's ex-husband.
• 38:03
  He's in his office, which of course she made him.
• 38:06
  She invented him, yes. And he's got, he's got a poster
• 38:11
  for a movie that he's, you know, produced or whatever.
• 38:13
  Oh, isn't it when she's like a cop and a hooker?
• 38:15
  Yeah, it says. Policewoman by day, hooker by
• 38:18
  night. Yes, I think.
• 38:19
  That's the 90s. That is one of the funniest fake
• 38:21
  movie posters I've ever seen. It's so awesome.
• 38:24
  It's. Perfect.
• 38:27
  They also have they have like their headquarters for the First
• 38:31
  Wives Club and not to me is like 1990s wealth in America.
• 38:37
  Is that like when you have something to do, you're like,
• 38:41
  truly Goldie Hawn's character is like, oh, I have an empty
• 38:45
  building. Yeah, everything they wanted to
• 38:48
  accomplish they could have done. Like got a table at a coffee
• 38:51
  shop? Absolutely.
• 38:52
  But they said no, yeah, we are setting up and they redecorated
• 38:56
  it. It was like in a snap of a
• 38:59
  finger. They were like, look.
• 39:00
  Well, it's also that phenomenon of women that were really
• 39:04
  successful, ambitious in the career in the workforce, and
• 39:09
  then they stop to have kids. Yeah, but they still have all
• 39:12
  this like momentum from. Before like they're like these.
• 39:15
  This is why women need a project.
• 39:17
  Yeah, and so this was them just treating catching up with
• 39:21
  friends like a full ass job. Like they said, we can't just go
• 39:26
  to lunch. Like we they were like, OK, we
• 39:28
  went to the funeral, we went to lunch.
• 39:30
  We already felt guilty. I.
• 39:31
  Think now we have to rent out office.
• 39:32
  Space. Now we have to get an office, we
• 39:34
  have to have an agenda. We need to get a whiteboard.
• 39:36
  OK, That whiteboard walked so that the chalkboard in Mean
• 39:41
  Girls could run. You know what I mean?
• 39:43
  They have like the only two films.
• 39:45
  To use this by. The way absolutely the only two
• 39:48
  movies about revenge that have ever happened.
• 39:52
  I finally found the line about about fat.
• 39:57
  Bette Midler is. So it's after she throws the
• 40:01
  Golden Globe. OK.
• 40:02
  And and she's like, well, I want a Golden Globe.
• 40:08
  Like I'm accomplished. What, did you ever win a pie
• 40:11
  eating contest? Damn bitch.
• 40:13
  Wow. And they all just kind of had to
• 40:15
  slap each other. Yeah, they had.
• 40:17
  To slap each other. That's another thing about this
• 40:20
  movie that like there isn't a ton of coherence and I don't
• 40:24
  care. They needed some obstacle for
• 40:26
  them to like really overcome in their hero's journey.
• 40:30
  And the the problem was that Bettman Lou was fat.
• 40:33
  And that she was fat. And they were like, why did we
• 40:36
  even rent out this office space if you were going to be so
• 40:39
  gross? And seriously like what are you,
• 40:41
  a size 4 you crazy bitch? The chair we got you from from
• 40:46
  PB Teen is not going to work. It's not going to work and we
• 40:50
  are going to need to roll you in on something much sturdier.
• 40:54
  But they like they just have to be at each others throats for
• 40:59
  really no reason. Yeah well it's like that.
• 41:01
  Maybe we're remembering why we stop being friends.
• 41:04
  Yeah absolutely. And then they start turning on
• 41:07
  each other times when you. Catch up with someone, you're
• 41:09
  like, the drifting apart is making more sense.
• 41:13
  Yeah, they're like, oh, it's not because your number was
• 41:15
  unlisted, it's because you're a stupid.
• 41:17
  Fat bitch because of how fucking fat you got and I your network
• 41:22
  is your net worth and. Period.
• 41:25
  And this is this network is too heavy, if you know what I'm
• 41:27
  saying, the burden do. You have a favorite line from
• 41:31
  the movie. My favorite line is probably.
• 41:36
  Let's see, when Bette Midler's talking about her husband Marty,
• 41:41
  and she says that he got an earring and she said, Morty,
• 41:46
  what are you, a pirate? My favorite line is a bet.
• 41:52
  You know, we said all that about Goldie Hawn, but Bette Midler
• 41:55
  had some zingers. She really did when she ran into
• 41:57
  them at the mall and she was like, what's the matter, Morty?
• 41:59
  You can't even buy her a whole dress.
• 42:06
  I did love that. And then she also says she says
• 42:10
  something about rollerblading. He says I'm holding him back
• 42:13
  because I won't go rollerblading.
• 42:17
  Actually, you know what? You know what?
• 42:18
  I have my most favorite line it is.
• 42:21
  It is from Diane Keaton where she says lesbians are great
• 42:25
  nowadays. That is such a liberal mom like
• 42:31
  you. In theory, I think this is okay,
• 42:35
  but in practice you're struggling.
• 42:38
  She's struggling, so she has to say lesbian that she meets.
• 42:41
  I think you're terrific. Yeah.
• 42:42
  It's so funny. Hey, you're a person.
• 42:45
  You are and you are a person, no matter what anyone says.
• 42:51
  And you love is love, even if you're gay.
• 42:54
  She is going to be AP flag a pain in the fucking ass, dude.
• 42:58
  And it's great. It's technically great.
• 43:00
  It is. And we love it and we love it.
• 43:02
  We love it. Yeah, it's still going to be
• 43:05
  annoying. Of course, and she was an only
• 43:08
  child, right? So that's all there.
• 43:11
  My one daughter's a lesbian. Laney just shook the most.
• 43:16
  Lesbian are you? Do you have anything you want to
• 43:19
  tell us, Laney? I've never known peace, even
• 43:24
  though I've never wanted for anything and I'm beautiful.
• 43:27
  Yeah, you girl. Same girl.
• 43:30
  OK, physical comedy. Let's talk about the physical
• 43:32
  comedy girl. They are always, they're always
• 43:37
  bringing the most when it comes to physical comedy.
• 43:41
  I mean, Goldie Hawn at the bar, just like yeah, the three of.
• 43:46
  Them all do it very differently too, which I.
• 43:48
  Guess and you can see that in the most like heightened scenes
• 43:53
  like when they're going falling, you know to their death on the
• 43:58
  window washing conform and the way that all three of them react
• 44:03
  to. It is so good, it's.
• 44:04
  So good, and when it comes together, it's magic.
• 44:08
  It's so funny. It's.
• 44:09
  Perfect. It's a really good I was
• 44:12
  watching this very high with my boyfriend love that a couple
• 44:17
  months ago this before we even approached to do the.
• 44:19
  Incredible. I and I think it was after.
• 44:22
  Diane, I was just going to say it was after Diane.
• 44:24
  Yeah, of course. And I looked at him and was
• 44:26
  like, they should have made that a ride at Disneyland.
• 44:31
  The fact that I, I dead ass wrote that.
• 44:35
  I wrote that down, Kate, You didn't.
• 44:37
  I did too. I said, why wasn't this a ride
• 44:41
  at Disneyland? Because it's so weird.
• 44:43
  Disneyland isn't trying to like, appeal to like.
• 44:48
  Divorce women, Yeah, that is. And you know.
• 44:51
  What if that's for another park? The saddest place on earth?
• 44:59
  But honestly, it's like. OK, well divorce mom is going to
• 45:03
  take the the 5th grader to Disneyland because you know that
• 45:07
  dad's not going to take them, you know?
• 45:09
  Or dad is taking the family with new girlfriend.
• 45:14
  Oh, God, and he realizes he has only children around him.
• 45:19
  Yeah, because she's still a child.
• 45:20
  Yeah, yeah. And so this ride is to make him
• 45:23
  think about what he's done, as he should.
• 45:25
  And every floor is like, it's like the Tower of Terror.
• 45:30
  Yeah, every floor he has to meet, like he has to look into
• 45:34
  the eyes of a woman whose life he's ruined.
• 45:36
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like watching her die alone
• 45:39
  and shit. Or watching her throw herself
• 45:41
  off of the building. Or getting a new hot boyfriend
• 45:44
  that's like young as fuck. Jon Stewart was supposed to be a
• 45:47
  young hot boyfriend in this. Movie that is so funny.
• 45:50
  I know, I know. For who?
• 45:52
  For Goldie Hawn. Okay, and not that I think he's
• 45:59
  very handsome, this is not Jon Stewart slander, but.
• 46:02
  Yeah, of course you don't. See him as like heartthrob.
• 46:05
  No, but as but he has also aged. He did that.
• 46:10
  He did age even though he wasn't supposed to.
• 46:11
  Yeah, I just only have known him at a certain age.
• 46:15
  Me too. So it's hard to imagine him
• 46:17
  like. As like the young hop.
• 46:19
  Would feel like if I heard that Dame Judi Dench was like a total
• 46:22
  slut in another movie. And I hope she was.
• 46:25
  I'm like, I haven't seen that woman's elbows.
• 46:27
  Like, it's hard to imagine she's a freak.
• 46:29
  I'd love that for her. Also, rest in power.
• 46:32
  Yeah. Who is dead that that was in
• 46:37
  this movie? Let's go down the list.
• 46:39
  Hey, Maggie Smith. Yeah, Maggie Smith and Diane
• 46:42
  Keaton are the two big ones. Yeah, we've still got pretty
• 46:48
  good statistically. Victor Garber still alive?
• 46:51
  Still with us in the most recent season of And Just Like That.
• 46:55
  That's exactly right. Yeah.
• 46:57
  Oh, Elizabeth Berkeley. OK, Something sweet that she
• 47:00
  said just a few years ago as they were, she was reflecting on
• 47:04
  this movie and she was like, honestly, they say don't meet
• 47:06
  your heroes. But I had the best time with
• 47:09
  these three women who I looked up to so much.
• 47:11
  They mentored me. They were so kind to me and
• 47:14
  like, just lifted me up, you know, women supporting women.
• 47:17
  Elizabeth Berkeley seems cool like.
• 47:19
  I think she, she has to be like, you have to have a good attitude
• 47:23
  to be Elizabeth Berkeley, you know?
• 47:25
  Like she Well, did you ever see that reboot of Saved by the
• 47:28
  Bell? No, I never watched.
• 47:30
  OK, it was actually really funny.
• 47:31
  Really it was like very self aware.
• 47:33
  Oh, that's great to hear. Yeah, it was.
• 47:36
  I thought it was a very funny like they winked at the old show
• 47:40
  a lot. That's fun.
• 47:41
  Yeah, and she was a guidance counselor in it and had a bunch
• 47:45
  of really, because there was apparently an episode of Saved
• 47:47
  by the Bell where she got addicted to, like, caffeine
• 47:49
  pills. Yeah, that's right.
• 47:51
  And she still will. Like people will offer her
• 47:53
  coffee and she'll go. I can't.
• 47:55
  That's so in the news show. Oh my God.
• 47:58
  And then she's got to have a good attitude.
• 48:00
  She went to some event for some screening of Showgirls.
• 48:03
  Uh huh. And she had a bunch of really
• 48:04
  nice stuff to say that like the gay community, like made
• 48:07
  showgirls happen. Wow.
• 48:10
  Like she's cool. I like her.
• 48:12
  OK, yeah, shout out. Come on, the pod.
• 48:13
  Yeah, I love that about Was this before or after Showgirls that
• 48:16
  she did First Wives Club? It was I think a year before,
• 48:20
  but let me let me check. God, what a big time for her.
• 48:23
  OK, so this film came out in 1996.
• 48:26
  Showgirls came out in 95. OK, so it was the year after.
• 48:30
  It was the year after. Oh, that's so interesting.
• 48:32
  OK. OK, Speaking of people who died,
• 48:37
  Eileen Heckert, she was the one that played the mom, the love
• 48:43
  her, love her. A real like original.
• 48:47
  She's a real broad. She's a real broad.
• 48:49
  Yeah, and she was a real broad. She's dead now, of course.
• 48:52
  Resting power, anyone? Else Rob Reiner, obviously.
• 48:55
  Fuck, I know. Pretty fucked up, I know, but
• 49:01
  we've still got we've got Bet, we've got Goldie, we've got
• 49:03
  everyone else. A lot of women are still with
• 49:06
  us. And a lot of women.
• 49:07
  All the men except Rob Reiner, who played Diane Keaton's
• 49:11
  husband, Christopher Lloyd. No, it was like a hand.
• 49:16
  No, no, it was that guy from 7th Heaven.
• 49:19
  That was like a total free What's.
• 49:21
  His name? What's his name?
• 49:22
  Hold on, he's like a hotter Christopher Lloyd.
• 49:25
  His name is Stephen Collins. Yeah.
• 49:28
  No, wait. Aaron Paratus.
• 49:30
  Which one? Whatever you say, I'll go.
• 49:32
  Stephen Collins. Stephen Collins.
• 49:34
  Yeah, because he got me too. Like super hard, right?
• 49:37
  Let me do some. Let me do some checking.
• 49:39
  Yes, the very first thing that comes up is actor Stephen
• 49:42
  Collins accused of sexual assault.
• 49:44
  Bummer. Gross, dude.
• 49:46
  For spanning from the 1970s to the 1990s.
• 49:49
  So that was like during this time, man, that is fucked up.
• 49:52
  That doesn't Hey, you didn't need well.
• 49:54
  It doesn't contribute to the weird weird vibes what women
• 49:58
  were describing. I know.
• 50:00
  I'm also wondering what if the original script was too man
• 50:04
  bashing? I wonder what?
• 50:06
  I want to see in that movie. And also like, shut up, Goldie
• 50:09
  Hawn, like I know. Stop trying to be.
• 50:11
  Stop trying to be a cool girl. Like.
• 50:14
  Stop trying to be like a pygmy. What is?
• 50:17
  What do you think they removed like?
• 50:20
  I'm sure that like the tiny Dick jokes.
• 50:23
  Are like. Honestly, probably.
• 50:25
  OK, maybe they like, you know how at the end of the movie it
• 50:29
  seems like, well, of course you watched it more carefully than I
• 50:32
  did because you clearly remember things that I didn't even
• 50:34
  remember, I think. We're both doing a good job of
• 50:36
  remembering different things and like bringing it.
• 50:38
  Together. So much for saying that and I
• 50:40
  couldn't agree more. And Laney is I'm this is the
• 50:45
  hardest thing she's ever it's. It's really hard for her.
• 50:47
  She hates man bashing. So yeah, she.
• 50:50
  She really wanted to do Goodfellas.
• 50:52
  Today, Yeah, she did, she said. She said I'm a pygmy girl.
• 50:56
  I didn't want to do this. What ROM com with no ROM?
• 51:00
  Yeah, she just wanted to do Boondock Saints today.
• 51:03
  She. She wanted to do all the
• 51:07
  freshmen in college boy movie poster movies.
• 51:10
  She wanted to do that poster that all the boys had that was
• 51:15
  like the black and white photo of 2 girls in their underwear
• 51:17
  kissing. Absolutely.
• 51:19
  She doesn't even like movies. She just wanted to talk about
• 51:21
  that. She wants Frank Sinatra's mug
• 51:24
  shot. She want that's actually the
• 51:26
  movie that she wanted to discuss.
• 51:27
  She. Wanted a Jimi Hendrix tapestry.
• 51:34
  She she wanted a fucking George Carlin album.
• 51:40
  She wanted a big dog T-shirt. Dude, I love big dogs.
• 51:45
  If you can't get with the big dog, stand off the porch dude
• 51:48
  or. Stay on the porch.
• 51:49
  Stay off. Oh yeah, if you can't run with
• 51:51
  the big they. They run off the porch and the
• 51:53
  porch is where the porches are. Absolutely.
• 51:56
  Yeah, I should get Laney a big dog shirt.
• 51:58
  Oh my God, It's so funny because she's a little dog.
• 52:02
  Yeah, yeah, I love that for her. I'm a big dog though.
• 52:05
  What's what are we talking? About what we're talking about,
• 52:07
  I got that. I got that big dog, she.
• 52:09
  Wanted. Yeah.
• 52:10
  What else did she want? She Laney.
• 52:14
  What were some other like really shitty freshman dorm posters?
• 52:18
  Oh, like super bad. That was a.
• 52:21
  Popular one, Yeah. Go Zags.
• 52:24
  Go Zags. You guys are having a really
• 52:27
  good season. My God, I love to hear that.
• 52:29
  Yeah. Are you?
• 52:31
  Haven't been following. Thanks for letting me know and
• 52:34
  thank you so much for letting me know because I really didn't
• 52:36
  know that. And now you have something to
• 52:38
  talk about. Yeah, I have something to talk
• 52:39
  about. My college friends when someone
• 52:41
  dies and I go to a. Funeral When your friend kills
• 52:45
  yourself. Yourself.
• 52:46
  Yeah. Then you can just DAP on him and
• 52:50
  say go zag. I'll have something to I'll say,
• 52:52
  well, at least we're having a pretty good season, yeah.
• 52:55
  Do you guys want to watch Billy Madison?
• 52:58
  Because that was a big thing in my dorms.
• 52:59
  Yeah, absolutely. That was a big one.
• 53:02
  A huge tip off that maybe I didn't only like men.
• 53:06
  In like 5th and 6th grade a bunch of my friends were getting
• 53:10
  like hot guy posters on their wall.
• 53:13
  Yeah. Like you're In Sync your
• 53:15
  Backstreet Boys classics, Jonathan Taylor Thomas, of
• 53:18
  course. You're 98° for the indie girls,
• 53:21
  of course. But I just thought we were
• 53:23
  getting like guy posters. And so I got this like black and
• 53:26
  white poster of Bob Dylan cuz like my family listened to him a
• 53:30
  lot. I'm kind of different.
• 53:32
  No, but I just like, I wasn't even trying to be different.
• 53:34
  I was like, well, he's a guy and that's what we're doing.
• 53:36
  That's what we do. Yeah, It's a guy.
• 53:38
  He's famous. I was like, Oh my God, do.
• 53:40
  You guys want to practice making out again or what for when we
• 53:43
  get boyfriends? I'm ready.
• 53:48
  Let's put some Bob Dylan on. Let's put some Bob Dylan on and
• 53:51
  see what happens. Yeah, it was.
• 53:53
  It was a sign that maybe I, like I felt constrained by just being
• 53:57
  attracted to boys and. And Bob Dylan is truly like the
• 54:04
  he is like the biggest lesbian, honestly.
• 54:07
  And it was like 2000s Bob Dylan. Not like young Timothy Shalamate
• 54:11
  playing him. Bob Dylan.
• 54:13
  It was like a fucking prune with a bowler hat on a black and
• 54:18
  white poster. It was very classy.
• 54:20
  Oh my God. And yeah, I was just like,
• 54:22
  ladies, I. Said ladies, am I right?
• 54:26
  And. Laney loved it.
• 54:28
  Laney. Loved Laney's, Laney's, am I
• 54:30
  right? Women.
• 54:34
  So Speaking of women, these these gals wanted to do a segue.
• 54:42
  So, Speaking of women, let's talk about First Watch.
• 54:48
  Good. Idea OK, but there used to be
• 54:52
  some speculation about a sequel, but Bette Midler said that there
• 54:58
  were political reasons that they didn't want to do it again, she
• 55:01
  said. Well, Goldie Hawn was going to
• 55:04
  date George Bush and that's that.
• 55:07
  Seemed. Hard.
• 55:08
  That was going to be hard. That was the whole.
• 55:10
  Plot line. Yeah.
• 55:11
  And it was like she's the they called it First wives Club.
• 55:15
  More like First Ladies club, Am I right?
• 55:18
  First Wives Club 2 Fast 2 Furious First Wives club goes
• 55:24
  back to school. Yeah, Second wives Club.
• 55:28
  Yeah, that. Yeah, it's it's just all the
• 55:31
  hot. Young girls, yeah.
• 55:32
  It's the story of the like, the next generation and them.
• 55:36
  First wives club the next. Generation wait, So what was the
• 55:40
  plot of the sequel? Do they OK so there was no plot
• 55:42
  of the sequel. It was just like they said that
• 55:45
  they rented they thought that they thought that it was going
• 55:48
  they find another office to rent.
• 55:49
  They just the reason that it wasn't made was because people
• 55:53
  were like oh actually that movie its success was just a fluke.
• 55:57
  It wasn't actually because of. That is such.
• 56:01
  Women being talented. A response of the time.
• 56:05
  Yes, and Bette, Midler said, she said.
• 56:08
  I really felt like that was a pretty serious diss because when
• 56:11
  women have hits, it's a fluke. But when men have hits, isn't it
• 56:14
  great? At least that's what they told
• 56:15
  us on 1st Wives and. Also, that is a very spicy Bette
• 56:20
  Midler quote. I know and I love her.
• 56:22
  She's so great, you know where she got her start singing was in
• 56:26
  bath houses. Like gay Bath?
• 56:28
  Houses Oh, of course that would be an ideal place to sing I
• 56:32
  mean, I mean the acoustics yeah, honest and.
• 56:34
  Like your throat never gets sore cause of the steam.
• 56:38
  I thought you'd say there's Dicks in your mouth.
• 56:43
  Yeah, a tight. Vacuum of air vacuum.
• 56:45
  But there are videos of her, like really grainy old videos
• 56:49
  and she would like put a towel on her head and wear a little
• 56:52
  towel. Dress and sing.
• 56:53
  Oh my God. Yeah.
• 56:55
  And that's why the gays ride incredibly hard for Batman.
• 56:58
  I mean, one, she's fab, but like, of course she's an icon,
• 57:01
  but she started out as a gay icon from day one.
• 57:04
  Wow, she was a what did what did Goldie Hawn's character call
• 57:08
  him? Civilians.
• 57:09
  Yeah, she was a civilian among the gay bath houses.
• 57:14
  That's iconic, isn't that? Sick.
• 57:16
  Yeah, so sick. I there was like a long form
• 57:19
  interview I saw with her, yeah, a few years ago.
• 57:22
  And the footage of it's just hilarious.
• 57:24
  I love that. Yeah, my gosh, makes me want to
• 57:26
  sing. That's incredible.
• 57:30
  I I feel like we do just have to talk about the quick cameo from
• 57:35
  J Smith. Cameron as the as the lawyer,
• 57:39
  lol. She's like it's.
• 57:40
  Very funny. It was almost as though you
• 57:43
  could see, totally forgot about this.
• 57:46
  You could see the man sitting in his seat about to say, well, I'm
• 57:52
  not sexist. My lawyer is a woman.
• 57:55
  You know what I'm saying? Like that's what was going
• 57:56
  through his head was like, no, no, no.
• 57:58
  I love women. I love women.
• 58:01
  Yeah, I, one of my best friends is a woman and she's like, we're
• 58:05
  not friends. I work for you.
• 58:08
  I'm your employee. So yeah, I loved seeing Jay
• 58:12
  Cameron Smith. It's just like those little
• 58:14
  things where you're like, Oh my God, she's here again.
• 58:16
  Gloria Steinem is randomly at that party.
• 58:18
  That is so funny. That is what a get.
• 58:23
  What a get and then and then of course one of the.
• 58:27
  Women in real life had to be friends with Gloria Synham, of
• 58:31
  course. Yeah, I do thought that Ivanka
• 58:33
  had a pretty iconic line. Yeah, she said.
• 58:36
  Don't get mad, get even. Get everything.
• 58:39
  Get. Everything.
• 58:40
  Don't get mad, get everything. Okay, I did love that.
• 58:44
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 58:46
  And that really, I think, became like the most popular line from
• 58:50
  the movie, so. What's the matter, Moore?
• 58:53
  You can't even buy her a whole dress.
• 58:56
  Should have been the tagline for the movie.
• 58:59
  Yeah, they're like, what do you? Who's Morty?
• 59:01
  They're like, who's Morty? That's a terrible.
• 59:03
  Tagline Oh yeah don't get mad get everything is a pretty
• 59:07
  iconic. Yeah, that's nice.
• 59:09
  Nice clean, short. Yeah.
• 59:12
  Oh, I love it. You know what is perfect about
• 59:17
  First Wives Club? And let me just say this, People
• 59:21
  get really mad when you talk about movie lengths.
• 59:25
  People, people. It's divisive.
• 59:27
  It's very divisive. Yeah, First Wives Club is a
• 59:30
  perfect movie, and it's 90 minutes.
• 59:32
  Yeah, I well, comedies should. Be Yeah.
• 59:37
  What do you think is the perfect movie length?
• 59:39
  It depends on the genre. OK, let's say.
• 59:43
  Let's say Thriller Hour 45. OK, what about horror?
• 59:50
  I consider those the same. OK.
• 59:53
  John, I'm not a huge horror like aficionado.
• 59:56
  So you would say 0 minutes? I haven't seen as many as I've
• 1:00:01
  seen other genres so. What about like?
• 1:00:03
  Drama drama. Two hours, tops.
• 1:00:06
  OK, perfect and then a slapstick comedy hour and a half.
• 1:00:10
  OK perfect. And then like a ROM com.
• 1:00:12
  Hour and a half hour, 40 minutes.
• 1:00:14
  OK, perfect. Yeah.
• 1:00:15
  I think it's better dramas have scenes of like, a hungover guy
• 1:00:23
  going into a basement and just like seeing a picture of his
• 1:00:28
  dead wife. Yeah, and you can't rush through
• 1:00:31
  that. No, you can't.
• 1:00:32
  Go pick it up, pick it up, put it back down.
• 1:00:36
  Yeah, yeah, he's got to look at it for a couple.
• 1:00:37
  Seconds and just like. Yeah.
• 1:00:40
  And, like, look at it. And then he can't look at it.
• 1:00:42
  Like, hey, Susan, I'm ready. Yeah.
• 1:00:47
  And then put it down and go like.
• 1:00:49
  Yeah, that can't be rushed. He can't go, Susan, I'm ready.
• 1:00:53
  You can't do that or I can't do that.
• 1:00:54
  Makes sense. What fucking?
• 1:00:55
  I'm not describing any movie. I've ever heard of, but
• 1:00:58
  honestly, we all know. We've all been.
• 1:01:01
  We've all seen. Yeah, I think that drama needs a
• 1:01:04
  little more time to breathe. But yeah, anything past two
• 1:01:08
  hours, you're just playing with yourself, dude.
• 1:01:10
  Like I it's new. Film lengths are tough for me.
• 1:01:15
  Me too, dude. Have you seen Marty Supreme?
• 1:01:18
  I. Have seen Marty's. 2 1/2 hours
• 1:01:20
  was a long time. I did have to get up in the
• 1:01:22
  middle and go potty. Yeah.
• 1:01:24
  Because and we would see it. I saw it at the AMC in the in
• 1:01:28
  the. Recliners.
• 1:01:29
  Are you part of their little cult?
• 1:01:32
  Are you an AMC member? Oh, am I part of a little cult?
• 1:01:34
  No one invited me. Just kidding, I am.
• 1:01:37
  I am an AMC. Stuff.
• 1:01:38
  I'm pointing at Jacob through the curtain.
• 1:01:40
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. I am an AMC Stubs member.
• 1:01:44
  I do love to go to the movies. I saw it at the Mayan with about
• 1:01:48
  with my boyfriend and a bunch of girls that had my exact same
• 1:01:52
  outfit. Yeah, and about 10 guys that
• 1:01:55
  were there by themselves. Typical Mayan crowd.
• 1:01:59
  I know the typical. But those like a lot of couples
• 1:02:02
  that look just like the vibe my boyfriend and I bring to being
• 1:02:07
  really white and yeah, totally a bunch of film Bros by
• 1:02:10
  themselves. I saw friendship there and that
• 1:02:12
  was fucking hilarious that. Is.
• 1:02:15
  A crazy So many people by themselves, so many guys by
• 1:02:19
  themselves. Oh my God, that's really kind of
• 1:02:21
  sweet. I like, I like, normalize going
• 1:02:24
  to movies by yourself. I love going to the movies by
• 1:02:26
  myself. Yeah, I was going to go to Marty
• 1:02:27
  Supreme by myself. But I texted a group of friends,
• 1:02:30
  a fellow AMC Steps members, and I said, hey, you got a Marty
• 1:02:34
  Supreme cult. You acted.
• 1:02:36
  I know. She acted like she know what I
• 1:02:38
  was talking about and then was like Google gobble one of us.
• 1:02:42
  I know I I made it sound like I was being left out of something
• 1:02:46
  intentionally and I'm absolutely in it.
• 1:02:49
  So I texted some of my friends who are also AMC Staffs and I
• 1:02:54
  was like, hey, I wanna go to Marty Supreme.
• 1:02:55
  And they were like, Yep, I already got tickets.
• 1:02:57
  OK. So then I went with some friends
• 1:02:59
  and I. Well, you know, with ping pong
• 1:03:01
  movies, there's a lot of like, back and forth.
• 1:03:07
  Frankly, I would have liked more ping pong in Marty Supreme.
• 1:03:12
  Or ping pong I'm. Going to make some of you really
• 1:03:14
  mad when I say done. Cocaine and are like so mad.
• 1:03:18
  Honestly I would be fine with cocaine and ping pong.
• 1:03:21
  Like I really love for it to be even faster.
• 1:03:26
  With more small business. Ideas.
• 1:03:28
  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:03:29
  I love that. He was always Wheeling and
• 1:03:30
  dealing and we needed more people doing cocaine while
• 1:03:33
  playing ping pong. It seems like they really got
• 1:03:35
  into their groove thinking when they were.
• 1:03:37
  Yeah, they should have honored a movie that was so obviously
• 1:03:41
  written by people on cocaine. Yeah, they really should have
• 1:03:45
  and and. Given a little homage to it and
• 1:03:48
  then. Totally.
• 1:03:49
  But it's also like my culture is not your costume and.
• 1:03:53
  And at that time it probably wouldn't be cool like glamour
• 1:03:56
  lines like in the 70s. And it'd be like from those
• 1:03:59
  Victorian like sniffers, like babe, you're hysteria is out of
• 1:04:03
  control. Do a little.
• 1:04:05
  Cocaine. Yeah.
• 1:04:06
  And it's like, unrecognizable for a modern audience.
• 1:04:10
  Yeah. Would have loved more Ping Pong
• 1:04:13
  and Marty Supreme. That's kind of my main
• 1:04:15
  criticism. That's fascinating.
• 1:04:16
  I thought it was a little too long, like, oh.
• 1:04:18
  Oh, I thought that the movie was too long.
• 1:04:20
  Yeah, I wish that they cut down some stuff and added in more
• 1:04:25
  ping pong. That, yeah, that makes sense.
• 1:04:27
  Yeah, I just, I thought it was so fun to watch.
• 1:04:30
  It was very fun. I Yeah.
• 1:04:32
  What? OK, So what are your ideal movie
• 1:04:33
  times? Really quick.
• 1:04:34
  OK, so I think for for most movies, 2 hours is the Max.
• 1:04:40
  I think that comedy is typically our best when they're about 90
• 1:04:45
  to 100 minutes. I think that a sort of like a
• 1:04:51
  genre bending movie, like something that's like a little
• 1:04:55
  drama a little, a little romance, a little.
• 1:04:57
  Comedy, like Everything Everywhere.
• 1:04:59
  Yeah, everything, everywhere. I think 2 hours would have been
• 1:05:02
  great. I think an hour 45 is good for
• 1:05:07
  like a thriller. I think horror can be 85.
• 1:05:12
  Horror doesn't even need to be 90 minutes.
• 1:05:14
  Like I want it. I want it to be brought up and
• 1:05:17
  down. I.
• 1:05:18
  I like a tighter plot with horror movies.
• 1:05:20
  Yeah, like, I don't like build the tension for the first half
• 1:05:24
  and then just go crazy the second-half.
• 1:05:26
  That's a great, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:28
  That's a great. Form and I recently I recently
• 1:05:31
  posted something on social media about movie links.
• 1:05:35
  It was like no more 4 hour movie out.
• 1:05:38
  I just. Don't.
• 1:05:39
  Yeah, I it's a really confusing trend in movies because
• 1:05:46
  everybody's attention span, including myself, Yeah, has
• 1:05:49
  gotten smaller. But it it's just, it feels so
• 1:05:54
  bloated. Like, I don't get why the
• 1:05:56
  editing is not. Do they think that it's like,
• 1:06:02
  well, we've already worked really hard to get them in the
• 1:06:04
  seats at a theater. Let's like, maybe they'll die.
• 1:06:07
  Hold them. Hostage.
• 1:06:08
  Yeah, it's. Like such a weird.
• 1:06:10
  I don't understand the instinct of making movies a lot longer.
• 1:06:13
  Like I thought I think Judd Apatow is very funny.
• 1:06:16
  I don't get why those movies were so fucking long.
• 1:06:18
  And honestly, I think that it's because men who direct movies
• 1:06:25
  are not willing to say no. We can cut that.
• 1:06:29
  There's an ego to it. There's an ego to it that
• 1:06:31
  they're like, well, I thought of that.
• 1:06:33
  And so if I thought of it, it should be in a movie, I mean.
• 1:06:37
  Probably that sounds accurate. Yeah.
• 1:06:40
  And also I think that it's one of those weird psychological
• 1:06:43
  tricks where, like, you know, how sometimes brands will, like,
• 1:06:47
  price things higher to make them seem more luxurious or prestige.
• 1:06:51
  I think that some film makers probably feel the pressure to
• 1:06:55
  make movies longer so that they're considered prestige.
• 1:06:58
  That I think that's very a very legitimate psychological
• 1:07:03
  torment. Happened and they're doing it to
• 1:07:05
  us and I think. That also they're like victims
• 1:07:08
  here and. And we are the victims.
• 1:07:09
  Yeah, like a Oh, they think that to be a good important movie, it
• 1:07:12
  has to be like the longest fucking thing, like a dance
• 1:07:16
  marathon in World War Two or something.
• 1:07:18
  They're like, we're not gonna be able to bring the boys home
• 1:07:20
  unless we dance, shoot horses. Don't they?
• 1:07:23
  That was the depression, not World War 2.
• 1:07:25
  But. Yeah, but still.
• 1:07:27
  Oh Laney, you just crop dusted us, dude.
• 1:07:30
  Oh, Laney. But you know what?
• 1:07:32
  She's aging and I can already tell.
• 1:07:35
  Yeah. First dogs club.
• 1:07:37
  First dogs club. First dogs club.
• 1:07:40
  What I. What do they mean?
• 1:07:42
  It would have been too political.
• 1:07:44
  Maybe the behind the scenes? I think that she means.
• 1:07:47
  Like, oh, it's too much, I'll get abortions.
• 1:07:55
  First babies. Club they become eco terrorists
• 1:07:59
  that like that like blow up a Jeep.
• 1:08:01
  Dealer they become antifa. I think that she probably means
• 1:08:07
  like, oh, they it was too much of A like political game behind
• 1:08:11
  the thing. I think she means like more like
• 1:08:13
  office politics that makes. More sense, but I do like
• 1:08:16
  imagining them becoming like extremists.
• 1:08:19
  They Greenpeace like, yeah, tracks them down because they
• 1:08:23
  like, kill sharks and like sell the fins.
• 1:08:28
  I could see, I could see one of them like dying on a hill of
• 1:08:33
  being like, don't take my furs, you know?
• 1:08:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They start getting, they start
• 1:08:37
  getting in a, they get a candle with PETA, you know, and, and
• 1:08:45
  it's. Tough, It's tough out there.
• 1:08:46
  Named Judi Dench asked them to start smuggling drugs from
• 1:08:50
  Columbia and they all have to like eat the balloons and like.
• 1:08:55
  Yeah. Did you ever see Maria Full of
• 1:08:57
  Grace? No, it's not a funny movie.
• 1:09:00
  I don't know why I was like, T he he.
• 1:09:02
  It's a foreign film from Columbia of a girl that becomes
• 1:09:06
  like a drug smuggler. Oh my God.
• 1:09:08
  And I think that First Wives Club is sort of the, you know,
• 1:09:13
  the prequel. She flies into New York.
• 1:09:15
  So that actually so. You know.
• 1:09:18
  New York the the the other the 4th character.
• 1:09:22
  It became too political because they had an orgy with Newt
• 1:09:25
  Gingrich. And they actually, they exposed
• 1:09:36
  Bill Clinton. That'd be fucking crazy.
• 1:09:39
  Yeah, well, they don't seem to support young women, so that
• 1:09:42
  actually doesn't track. Yeah, the First Wives Club have
• 1:09:45
  been totally on Hillary's side. Of course, in an obnoxious.
• 1:09:48
  Way they would have. OK, that's what it is, is that
• 1:09:51
  First wives Club recruits Hillary Clinton.
• 1:09:55
  They create a smear campaign against Bill Clinton.
• 1:09:58
  And Monica Lewinsky's life goes to shit.
• 1:10:01
  Yeah. Talk about something that didn't
• 1:10:03
  age well. Honey.
• 1:10:04
  Honey. All right.
• 1:10:06
  Well. So overall, what do you think?
• 1:10:07
  Did it age well? Overall, yeah, I still think
• 1:10:09
  it's a perfect movie. I think it's five stars.
• 1:10:11
  Yeah. I wish Bette Midler wasn't so
• 1:10:13
  fucking fat. Yeah, Oh my God, I know it's
• 1:10:15
  hard to watch. I mean, shook up the whole
• 1:10:17
  screen for God's sake. Oh my God, that crazy scene
• 1:10:20
  where Sarah Jessica Parker's like find something in.
• 1:10:23
  Your size? Yeah.
• 1:10:25
  And she's like your size. It's like, no damn.
• 1:10:28
  Your size. Yeah, just like it's.
• 1:10:30
  I'm just. Looking at a person yeah, truly
• 1:10:32
  and yeah, this woman who she's not even plus size she's.
• 1:10:37
  Just like a six to an 8. Yeah.
• 1:10:39
  Just kind of kind of aspirational for me to be
• 1:10:41
  honest. So it was a little.
• 1:10:42
  Fucked up, a little fucked up. Yeah, yeah, it is always so
• 1:10:47
  funny watching movies from the the past or even I mean Movies
• 1:10:51
  Now too. It's not like fat phobia has
• 1:10:53
  gone away. Well, whenever they're like, Oh
• 1:10:55
  yeah, the fat girl. And you're like, oh, you mean
• 1:10:58
  oh. Oh, you're like that girl whose
• 1:11:01
  weight would be like a decrease if I was that weight?
• 1:11:04
  Fuck. Oh, didn't know it was like
• 1:11:09
  that. Or Oh my God, that like teen
• 1:11:11
  movie The designated ugly fat friend.
• 1:11:15
  Oh. My God, girl.
• 1:11:18
  Like. What?
• 1:11:19
  Yeah, insane, insane. And you first wives club.
• 1:11:23
  I'm so sorry. Anyway, first wives club, what
• 1:11:27
  else is there to say? But it is kind of the classic,
• 1:11:30
  like, I hate, I hate to say this because I know that like, I am,
• 1:11:36
  I am like a white feminist, OK, I am a white person.
• 1:11:41
  You too, huh? Yeah, even me.
• 1:11:46
  Hey, whiteness happens to. Look, it happens to some of the
• 1:11:49
  best of us. God gives strongest, strongest
• 1:11:54
  soldiers, Yeah, to his most translucent.
• 1:11:56
  Soldiers with the highest rates of sun cancer.
• 1:12:00
  Sunburn Soldiers. I know that it it would be a
• 1:12:05
  mistake for me to say like this movie is a feminist masterpiece
• 1:12:08
  because there's not one person of color.
• 1:12:10
  There's not one like there's not one person who's poor other than
• 1:12:15
  the the maid who, who's Tucker Channing gives her pearls too
• 1:12:22
  before she kills herself. And it's, you know, it's.
• 1:12:26
  I think it's more girl power than feminism.
• 1:12:31
  It is. It's you don't own me.
• 1:12:33
  Yeah, Yeah. I think it's more like, yes, it
• 1:12:37
  is women's empowerment, but I would not say like, wow, this is
• 1:12:40
  an intersectional. Feminism after second wave
• 1:12:43
  feminism it is. That's why Gloria Steinem was
• 1:12:46
  there. Period.
• 1:12:47
  It is completely second wave feminism.
• 1:12:50
  It's. Like which is cool because they
• 1:12:52
  made the movie 30 years after second wave feminism debuted.
• 1:12:57
  And here's the thing too that I think makes this movie age well.
• 1:13:00
  In this movie, maybe a dark take, but like, nothing's
• 1:13:03
  changed. I know nothing's changed.
• 1:13:06
  Men are still leaving their wives once they expire at age
• 1:13:10
  40. It's not like a phenomenon that
• 1:13:12
  has changed. That is absolutely true.
• 1:13:13
  Truly everything. Like, you know, yes, there's
• 1:13:16
  the, there's the, we just happened to have an office
• 1:13:19
  building we can rent in New York and oh, like we don't have cell
• 1:13:22
  phones and stuff, but like. You know all those bitches voted
• 1:13:24
  for Cuomo. Oh my God.
• 1:13:26
  Like they all, they were really fundraiser.
• 1:13:28
  They were really against Mondami.
• 1:13:30
  Yeah, they. We're like, we'll look, yeah,
• 1:13:34
  we're all landlords here and we're all landlords here.
• 1:13:38
  They would have. I feel like it would have been a
• 1:13:40
  fight that Diane Keaton's daughter had.
• 1:13:43
  With her, yeah, yeah, it didn't ruin their relationship, but
• 1:13:48
  there was tension. But it was annoying, yeah, and a
• 1:13:51
  strain. It was it was a strain, Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  But then ultimately the daughter wins because Montdami wins.
• 1:13:57
  So. And the those women have to eat
• 1:13:59
  their words. But here's The thing is that
• 1:14:01
  like this first wives club could have been made today and not
• 1:14:06
  much would have. Changed the references would be
• 1:14:09
  different. Yeah, the references would be
• 1:14:10
  different, but the entire concept?
• 1:14:12
  Of like, the office space would have been a little sadder.
• 1:14:17
  They would have rented A5 by 5 Co working space.
• 1:14:21
  They would have we worked. Yeah, they would have.
• 1:14:23
  We worked. They would have gone.
• 1:14:25
  They would have rented someplace by the hour with kombucha on
• 1:14:27
  tap. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:14:29
  And that's going to be $100 to work here today for that cup of.
• 1:14:33
  Yeah, but I think it still would be a very plausible movie of
• 1:14:36
  like 3 smoking hot women that are middle-aged got dumped.
• 1:14:41
  Yeah, absolutely. Oh, hi, Laney.
• 1:14:46
  All right, well. Laney, do you have anything else
• 1:14:48
  you'd like to say? Oh, oh, what's back here?
• 1:14:51
  She voted for Curtis Lewa. Oh yeah.
• 1:14:55
  She's she's a Republican talk. About that, yeah, Talk about
• 1:14:58
  that. That's why she went straight for
• 1:15:01
  the plane, the the military plane.
• 1:15:04
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 1:15:06
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:15:06
  But. All right, all right, all right.
• 1:15:08
  Well, we Speaking of planes, we got to land this plane.
• 1:15:11
  Kate, what else is there to say about First Wives Club?
• 1:15:14
  Anything else? Do you think it aged well?
• 1:15:16
  I think it aged well, yeah, other than the stuff we went
• 1:15:19
  over. But compared to other shit from
• 1:15:21
  the 90s aged the best. Yeah.
• 1:15:24
  And it's got the best rewatch ability, very rewatchable.
• 1:15:29
  Anytime that someone has told me that they haven't seen it, I'm
• 1:15:31
  like, well, we got to watch it. It's.
• 1:15:32
  Fun. Yeah, I don't think it's very
• 1:15:35
  common for three women of a certain age to be on screen at
• 1:15:40
  the same time. And to be given full stories,
• 1:15:43
  full characters, they're not the butt of the joke, and they get a
• 1:15:48
  chance to earn their. Yeah, that's so true.
• 1:15:53
  But other, yeah, they like got to be the star.
• 1:15:55
  I thought it was really cool. Yeah, and I think it did great
• 1:15:58
  things for their careers too. In this movie that a bunch of
• 1:16:01
  people thought was going to flop being being Evergreen.
• 1:16:06
  We love it is we love it. So if you haven't watched First
• 1:16:09
  Wives Club, what are you waiting for?
• 1:16:11
  Support women and also OK, one more thing is that they're the
• 1:16:17
  poster for the movie is like the three of them smoking cigars.
• 1:16:21
  I've been looking at this image the whole time, yeah.
• 1:16:23
  And it's fucking iconic. Yeah.
• 1:16:25
  Gorgeous. I love it.
• 1:16:26
  They're like, why would I need a boys club when I have first
• 1:16:29
  wives club? Oh.
• 1:16:30
  And you know what? Is that A tag?
• 1:16:32
  No, but I need OK, that's and that's on copywriting.
• 1:16:37
  Hire me. I'm Yeah, We're both looking for
• 1:16:40
  work. We're both looking for work.
• 1:16:42
  And how funny are we? Yeah, did you see how fun that
• 1:16:45
  was and how clever we spoke? Give me a be a personality hire.
• 1:16:49
  So the point is that we're. Looking for jobs?
• 1:16:52
  So the point is, I sharks, I'm here to say.
• 1:16:58
  They've all the sharks have left them in.
• 1:16:59
  Conclusion, They said enough about women.
• 1:17:04
  Well, Kate, thank you so much for coming apart.
• 1:17:06
  Thank you for having me. Do you want to tell people where
• 1:17:08
  to find you on the Internet? Etcetera.
• 1:17:10
  You can find me at Kate Gluck Gluck.
• 1:17:13
  I did not know what it meant but that is my Instagram handle and
• 1:17:17
  just find out more about me. What a fun little teaser, yeah?
• 1:17:24
  When does this come out? This will come out in a couple
• 1:17:26
  of weeks. OK.
• 1:17:27
  Yeah. Great.
• 1:17:28
  Well, then I don't really know what's upcoming then, so, OK.
• 1:17:31
  Any any exciting shows you're doing toward the end of January?
• 1:17:38
  I'm yeah, I'm opening for my friend Sammy Anzer.
• 1:17:42
  He's coming back from New York. And I was just going to say, he
• 1:17:45
  barely gave us time to miss him. Actually, Missy, if you won't go
• 1:17:48
  away, Yeah, but I'm opening for him at the Comedy Fort.
• 1:17:51
  Oh, I heard that he moved to New York because you got a
• 1:17:53
  boyfriend. Yeah, Yeah, OK.
• 1:17:56
  I'm breaking hearts left and right over here, people.
• 1:17:59
  Another person who moved to New York to All right, go zags.
• 1:18:03
  All right, go Zags.