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Is This The Worst Thing To Happen To Dating? · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody.
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Speaker 2: It's Bob Guinea here. I do part two. I'm with
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Speaker 2: my good friend, Mr.
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Speaker 3: Wright. And we are digging back into what we touched
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Speaker 3: on in the first episode. episode here, which was a
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Speaker 3: very strange TikTok message. So if you haven't had a
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Speaker 3: chance to catch up on that, please go ahead and
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Speaker 3: get a listen. I think this guy just kind of
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Speaker 3: triggered us because... I think it triggered me a little
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Speaker 3: bit because I feel like... I just feel like it's
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Speaker 3: got to be tough, dude.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine... I mean, I date.
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Speaker 3: The old-fashioned way, right? I go on a TV show,
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Speaker 3: I hand out a couple flowers, and that's how I
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Speaker 3: do it. No, I think about it from that perspective, though.
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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, it's got to be so tough because...
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Speaker 3: Either one way or another, you are going to be
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Speaker 3: someone swiping left, which left is bad, right is good, right?
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Speaker 2: Or not bad necessarily.
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Speaker 3: Left is pass and right is I'm interested or whatever.
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Speaker 3: So when you– God forbid you put like some real
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Speaker 3: photos of yourself up there that aren't glamour shots, right?
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Speaker 2: And someone's like left, left, left. You're not getting anybody
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Speaker 2: swiping right.
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Speaker 3: So then you– are like, oh, I better throw up
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Speaker 3: some stuff from my friend's wedding or Olin Mills with
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Speaker 3: the library backdrop.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: You're thinking of the best things you could come up
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Speaker 3: with for these photos.
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Speaker 2: But then you think, oh, you know what? I'm going
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Speaker 2: to put my interests on there.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to put some stuff that I love to
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Speaker 3: do so that maybe I find that guy who has
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Speaker 3: something in common with me.
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Speaker 2: And now you're getting judged for that too. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what that means exactly.
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Speaker 3: But I do know that I feel bad about the
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Speaker 3: pressure Uh, that must come with that kind of expectation of,
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Speaker 3: you know, get hoping that someone, anyone, I mean, I'd
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Speaker 3: probably go on and create a fake profile and swipe
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Speaker 3: right on my own profile.
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Speaker 2: To make myself feel better about myself.
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Speaker 4: No, you got one like, that's all you needed.
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Speaker 3: I got one like, and I won't even tell myself
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Speaker 3: that it was me, you know, I wouldn't even allow
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Speaker 3: myself to know it. So, yeah, but I mean, I'm
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Speaker 3: sure that there are some things that resonate with some
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Speaker 3: of the listeners and some, and some of the people
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Speaker 3: that are listening right now that this guy said, I mean,
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Speaker 3: I would imagine there's probably a thing or two in there,
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Speaker 3: like right with every thing you say, you.
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Speaker 2: Know, I'm sure not a hundred percent of it is
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Speaker 2: completely off base.
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Speaker 5: If you wanted to like extrapolate, you know, something that
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Speaker 5: could be an issue for me is that if you're
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Speaker 5: with somebody that is so career driven or so, you know,
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Speaker 5: attention driven. that that is, you know, that is like,
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Speaker 5: you know, altering the course of their life. And it's
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Speaker 5: all about, you know, work, work, work, work, work 24
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Speaker 5: hours a day. Or if it's just, let me see
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Speaker 5: how popular I can be. And I can, you know,
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Speaker 5: let me see, maybe they spend all their time on
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Speaker 5: Instagram or, you know, TikTok themselves. And they're just infatuated
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Speaker 5: with attention or infatuated with accolades. That can be, that
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Speaker 5: can certainly be overbearing. And I can, I can see that.
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Speaker 5: And I, you know, I mean, there's one of the
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Speaker 5: things that, drives me insane if i can give you
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Speaker 5: my biggest pet peeve.
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Speaker 2: With i'm ready yeah.
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Speaker 5: Being with being with friends is when i'm sitting there
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Speaker 5: with them and they're on social media when they're looking
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Speaker 5: and it used to be like you know if you
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Speaker 5: were at a cocktail party and someone was talking to
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Speaker 5: you but looking over your shoulder to see who else
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Speaker 5: was in the room like yeah like someone more important
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Speaker 5: yeah that's what i think social media for me that's
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Speaker 5: the that's the impression that i get if i'm if
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Speaker 5: you and i bobber if we're out to you know
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Speaker 5: to lunch or dinner or whatever out to drinks And
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Speaker 5: we're talking and you're scanning to see what else is
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Speaker 5: going on in the world around you. That drives me bananas.
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Speaker 5: So if that was what he was saying on TikTok,
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Speaker 5: if that drive to get attention, that drive to make
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Speaker 5: sure that you're not missing anything, that maybe there's something better,
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Speaker 5: there's a better option out there. I can see that
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Speaker 5: being a real issue because it is for me. I
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Speaker 5: promise you that is the biggest– issue that I have
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Speaker 5: right now is, you know, when I'm with somebody and I,
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Speaker 5: and I see them look for something better.
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Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can speak to that.
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Speaker 3: Like I know, you know, when I was single living
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Speaker 3: in LA and I'd go out with someone or I'd
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Speaker 3: be set up by friends or whatever, and we'd go
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Speaker 3: out on a date or go out for drinks and
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Speaker 3: she'd be, you know, she was Instagram, you know, driven and,
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Speaker 3: A lot of times they were Instagram models or whatever
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Speaker 3: they might be, right? And it was like, oh, getting
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Speaker 3: a picture of their food, getting a picture of the drink,
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Speaker 3: getting a picture. Would you mind getting this picture of me?
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Speaker 3: And I'm just like, are you fucking kidding? I remember
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Speaker 3: getting to the point of being like, you know what?
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Speaker 2: I think I need to go.
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Speaker 3: I did that more than once because I was just like,
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Speaker 3: I was so anti the whole thing.
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Speaker 2: And I've softened to it over the years. I actually
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Speaker 2: like it.
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Speaker 3: Instagram now, like I like taking pictures of my kids.
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Speaker 3: I like posting stuff when we're doing things. But I
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Speaker 3: remember I was so turned off to it back then.
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Speaker 3: And that was kind of why, like I hated the
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Speaker 3: fact that it was like, I couldn't have a real
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Speaker 3: moment with anybody, you know?
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Speaker 2: And it was just maddening.
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 5: And it was the light wasn't right or the thing,
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Speaker 5: all those things. I'm like- At this moment right now,
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Speaker 5: can we just be?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, can we have this?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and maybe later on, you're back on the couch
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Speaker 5: or whatever else, and you're just vegging, fine.
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Speaker 4: That's the time.
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Speaker 5: But in the moment, feeling like you aren't that good enough,
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Speaker 5: feeling you're not that special enough, where it's more important
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Speaker 5: to see what some stranger half a world away is.
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Speaker 4: Is looking at or doing to see if it's better
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Speaker 4: than what you're doing.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: Oh my God.
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Speaker 4: That's a whole nother episode though.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I can't imagine that. I think, I think, I think
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Speaker 2: we kind of nailed it.
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Speaker 3: I think this guy's probably, you know, maybe, maybe he
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Speaker 3: dated someone who had a more successful career than him,
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Speaker 3: or maybe she made more money than him or whatever
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Speaker 3: it might be.
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Speaker 2: And, and, and that is a trigger for him.
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Speaker 3: And so he's basically saying like, you know, he's got
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Speaker 3: this opinion that he's carrying, which is kind of like, look, I,
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't need to see all these things
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Speaker 3: you're doing. I'm sure in the nicest interpretation of what
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Speaker 3: he said that we could possibly render, it would be,
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Speaker 3: I just want you to be with me and spend
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Speaker 3: the time with me. I don't want to know what
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Speaker 3: you're doing on the side. But I don't understand how
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Speaker 3: on a dating profile that works. Because at the end
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Speaker 3: of the day, don't you want to know what these
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Speaker 3: people do? Yeah.
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Speaker 4: But now I'm softening up to his position here a
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Speaker 4: little bit. Now I'm thinking about my own.
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Speaker 5: Issues that I have with social media and the own
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Speaker 5: issues that I have with with looking over my shoulder
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Speaker 5: to see who else is around. And so maybe his
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Speaker 5: takeaway is you don't need to be that infatuated with success,
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Speaker 5: that infatuated with accolades.
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Speaker 4: Can't you just be happy in the moment? Maybe that's
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Speaker 4: what it is. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I think we've given him a fair shake now, though.
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Speaker 2: I think we were going strong on him at first,
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Speaker 2: now he's softened.
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Speaker 3: And I think we've definitely nailed it. But Yeah, I
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Speaker 3: do think it's interesting. You know, they say opposite to tract, right?
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Speaker 3: And so at the end of the day, you know,
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Speaker 3: you're going to have, like you said, you're going to
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Speaker 3: have the lead singer, you're going to have the tambourine player.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's very rare that you have, you know,
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Speaker 3: two lead singers dating, right? I mean, I laughingly say
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Speaker 3: this about Canyon, but, you know, when Trista and Ryan
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Speaker 3: and myself and my wife were at an event, Trista
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Speaker 3: and I walked the red carpet together. Ryan and Canyon
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Speaker 3: wait at the end with cocktails. And it's not that
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Speaker 3: I want, I want Canyon on the red carpet.
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Speaker 2: She has no interest, zero. And Ryan has zero interest.
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Speaker 3: And I've always thought it's so funny because I'll even
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Speaker 3: say to Tristan, like the middle of the carpet, is
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Speaker 3: this kind of weird?
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Speaker 2: You know, it's always us, you know, but it's like,
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Speaker 2: it's funny because we've been lumped together for so long. Right.
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Speaker 3: And it's, but it is kind of interesting that we
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Speaker 3: both ended up with people who just They don't need it.
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Speaker 4: That's the balance. I think that's the balance.
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Speaker 5: You have two that are fighting for the angle, fighting
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Speaker 5: for the carpet, fighting for the attention, whatever else. I
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Speaker 5: think that can be really a bad blend.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 5: So I think someone that's like, yeah, you know what?
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Speaker 5: You go, and you go on the red carpet. I'll
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Speaker 5: get a cocktail.
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Speaker 4: I'll wait for you. I'll support you as best I can.
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Speaker 2: I'll take a couple pictures. I'll be smiling.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I had a relationship with someone many years ago
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Speaker 3: who was very well known. And there were often challenges
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Speaker 3: because let's just.
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Speaker 2: Be honest, right?
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Speaker 3: The reality show thing, people, it's almost like you're the
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Speaker 3: bottom rung of the ladder. But at the end of
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Speaker 3: the day, when you're the bottom rung of the ladder
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Speaker 3: in these circumstances and your partner is a little higher
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Speaker 3: on the ladder, there's things that come with that, right?
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Speaker 3: And some of those things that come with that aren't always...
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Speaker 3: the best situations to be in. And I'll say this, like,
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Speaker 3: I do think that there's, if you take yourself seriously in,
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Speaker 3: in anything, you know, especially when it comes to the
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Speaker 3: bullshit that comes with social media and certain levels of,
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Speaker 3: you know, notoriety or whatever it might be, you're setting
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Speaker 3: yourself up for failure and you're setting yourself for failure,
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Speaker 3: not only personally, but for sure relationship wise, because you've
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Speaker 3: got to be able to laugh at yourself and you've
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Speaker 3: got to be able to make fun of the situation.
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Speaker 3: And let's just say that I was a little better
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Speaker 3: at making fun of the situation than that person was.
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Speaker 4: All of that stuff is fleeting. It's fake.
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Speaker 5: And getting too wrapped up in it, I think it
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Speaker 5: drains the soul.
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Speaker 2: No doubt.
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Speaker 4: I sound like an old man.
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Speaker 3: No, you sound like a man with some experience is
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Speaker 3: what you sound like to me. And I think in
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Speaker 3: some wisdom based on you know, those experiences. And so
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, you learn a lot about that stuff,
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Speaker 3: but I think it's interesting though. You were right when
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Speaker 3: you said, I love that Chris Rock analogy that you
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Speaker 3: got to have someone who's happier than hell to be
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Speaker 3: pounding that tambourine, right?
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Speaker 2: Just playing it. And then the other dude up there
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Speaker 2: doing everything else they're doing. So I don't know.
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Speaker 3: You know, I thought of this earlier, you know, when
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Speaker 3: I was saying opposites attract and I was going to
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Speaker 3: try and get there, but something of interest, you know, you, like,
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Speaker 3: for example, you think of like Bill Gates, you think
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Speaker 3: of Steve Jobs when he was alive still, or, you know,
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Speaker 3: Elon Musk, right? You have all these like huge billionaires,
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Speaker 3: but they're not dating female billionaires, right? why why not
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Speaker 3: you know why not why i mean is it is
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Speaker 3: it too they're too alpha you know like mark cuban
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Speaker 3: you know like i've i've often wondered is is who's
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Speaker 3: mark cuban with you know like i i've if he's
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Speaker 3: with someone if he is married or whatever you've never
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Speaker 3: heard of her or at least i haven't i always
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Speaker 3: think he's a single guy maybe he's not but you
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Speaker 3: know isn't that interesting like why are they never yeah i.
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Speaker 5: Think it's probably probably two things it could be um
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Speaker 5: I'm not a billionaire, so I don't know. But I
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Speaker 5: can imagine that even if you're with somebody that's incredibly successful,
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Speaker 5: massively successful, but maybe they're not quite to the billionaire
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Speaker 5: status of an Elon Musk or whatever else, then they
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Speaker 5: fail in comparison.
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Speaker 4: And I think that's unfair.
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Speaker 5: I think that's really unfair because you can have a
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Speaker 5: really accomplished partner but just doesn't have the status or
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Speaker 5: the recognition and all of a sudden, oh.
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Speaker 4: They're not equal. Well, maybe they are. You never know
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Speaker 4: what happens in car rides.
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Speaker 5: You never know what happens over coffee talks, like how
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Speaker 5: equal they actually might be.
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Speaker 4: So that's one. The other part is I think that
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Speaker 4: probably someone.
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Speaker 5: That is super driven, super alpha, all that stuff, you know,
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Speaker 5: when they get home or when they get, when they're,
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Speaker 5: when they're out of the boardroom, they may want to
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Speaker 5: downshift and they don't want that in their lives. They
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Speaker 5: want to have another, another reality that, that doesn't include,
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Speaker 5: you know, being in charge of a massive company or
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Speaker 5: a massive team or, you know, massive responsibility or whatever. So,
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Speaker 5: I think first off, again, these, you know, a lot
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Speaker 5: of Cuban might be married to an incredibly, you know,
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Speaker 5: accomplished person. And we may just not know about it
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Speaker 5: because it's not Mark Cuban.
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Speaker 2: And they might want their privacy.
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Speaker 4: Totally.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that Canyon would prefer privacy, you know, which I, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I love that.
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Speaker 5: And like, you know, you take, you know, Jeff Bezos and,
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Speaker 5: you know, he's now married to another person, you know,
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Speaker 5: she was a, she was a news anchor or something
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Speaker 5: like that.
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Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos. Oh my gosh. And you think, Oh, you know,
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Speaker 4: she's only a news anchor, but a news anchor is
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Speaker 4: an incredibly accomplished role, you know?
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Speaker 5: And again, you take those two people apart and you go, Oh,
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Speaker 5: this is, this woman is a news anchor.
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Speaker 4: Like, wow, that's incredible.
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Speaker 5: But then you put that paired with, you know, someone
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Speaker 5: like Jeff Bezos and all of a sudden it doesn't
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Speaker 5: seem that accomplished when it really, it is because you're
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Speaker 5: throwing off kind of the measuring tool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, that's a really valid point. That's a great way
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Speaker 2: to look at it. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I would imagine that it's gotta be very difficult for
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Speaker 3: the other person in the relationship, right? To, especially now
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Speaker 3: that billionaires have been, you know, when you think about billionaires,
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Speaker 3: which I am, I'm, I'm basically like a thousandaire, I think,
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Speaker 3: or a hundredaire. But when you think of folks like
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Speaker 3: that and how they become, how it's become celebrity culture, right?
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Speaker 3: I mean, there was a period of time where you
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Speaker 3: didn't even know who a billionaire was.
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Speaker 2: You couldn't even name one.
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Speaker 3: And now it's like, We seem to know a lot
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Speaker 3: of them and they seem to be way more prevalent
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Speaker 3: in our, in our, you know, in our culture. But
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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting and it would be a real
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Speaker 3: unique challenge to be with someone who is known for
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Speaker 3: being such a take charge beast, you know, like any
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Speaker 3: of the sharks on, you know, on the shark tank.
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Speaker 4: So how about, how about athletes?
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: Here you go.
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Speaker 5: Like you have, you know, a lot of times I
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Speaker 5: think athletes have the most difficult road in a relationship, right?
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Speaker 5: Because they, you know, they have their moment in the spotlight,
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Speaker 5: which for, you know, the majority of professional athletes, you know, 80% of, of, of,
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Speaker 5: you know, professional athletes, their careers are like three to
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Speaker 5: four years tops.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 5: And so you have these, you know, you're, you're like
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Speaker 5: in the spotlight, whatever else. And then it goes away
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Speaker 5: and it's gone and it's gone. I mean, it is
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Speaker 5: gone very, very quickly. And I think that is probably
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Speaker 5: a very difficult thing in a relationship where one minute,
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Speaker 5: you know, you are, you know, playing in the NFL
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Speaker 5: and whatever else or the NBA or whatever it is.
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Speaker 4: And then the next moment, you know, you're.
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Speaker 5: You're not, you know, you're coaching high school football and
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Speaker 5: you're back to real life. And that's gotta be a
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Speaker 5: hard adjustment, not just for you, but for your partner
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Speaker 5: as well.
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Speaker 3: Sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You go from being adored basically, and, and being just
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Speaker 3: revered no matter where you go to all of a sudden,
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Speaker 3: you know, some, you know, someone walks up and they're like,
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Speaker 3: you know, saying your name, like they keep murdering your
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Speaker 3: name when they're, when they're picking up, you know, the
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Speaker 3: ballet stand or whatever, you know, yeah, it's gotta be tough.
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Speaker 2: I would guess, you know, and I have some friends who, who,
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Speaker 2: you know, I have a couple of friends.
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Speaker 3: Who as professional athletes have kind of reached the pinnacle
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Speaker 3: and they still, I think do have a lot of
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Speaker 3: that adoration, but I have some other friends I know who,
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Speaker 3: you know, like you said, their careers were maybe four
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Speaker 3: or five years in and out. They still made some
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Speaker 3: great money, still have a wonderful lifestyle, but they definitely
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Speaker 3: don't have the lifestyle that they had.
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Speaker 2: And so it definitely can wreak havoc on your psyche,
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Speaker 2: I would think, too.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: All right, Mr.
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Speaker 2: Wright, I got one more topic for us to cover today.
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Speaker 3: Apparently, online, with my online investigative skills, I have discovered,
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Speaker 3: I have unearthed.
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Speaker 2: A theory that some men... don't like a woman who.
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Speaker 3: Travels solo a lot because they equate that with, she
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Speaker 3: must be sleeping around when she's traveling.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard that?
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Speaker 3: Have you ever thought of that when you see that
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Speaker 3: someone's maybe, you know, globetrotting around the world a little bit?
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Speaker 3: Have you ever thought, oh, wow, they're probably out there
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Speaker 3: shacking up with a dude in every port?
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Speaker 2: You know, has that ever crossed your mind?
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's definitely come up in terms of
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Speaker 5: like guys doing that when guys travel a lot for work.
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Speaker 5: And there's just like this connotation that they're, you know,
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Speaker 5: that they're, you know, being promiscuous and they're, they're living
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Speaker 5: like a double life.
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Speaker 4: I've never really thought about it.
15:57
Speaker 5: For a, for a woman, but you know, I mean,
16:01
Speaker 5: equal opportunity, they're allowed to do that too, I suppose.
16:04
Speaker 5: And I guess, I mean, I, I guess I, that's interesting.
16:07
Speaker 5: That's a really interesting thought. And, uh, I, I suppose that, yeah,
16:14
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I, I've never, I've never had
16:16
Speaker 5: a negative connotation about that, but, um, I suppose that,
16:19
Speaker 5: that a woman would have the same opportunities and, Could
16:22
Speaker 5: be up to the same hijinks that men are.
16:25
Speaker 2: Hijinks.
16:26
Speaker 4: Hijinks.
16:27
Speaker 2: I love it.
16:27
Speaker 1: I love it.
16:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting.
16:29
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny.
16:31
Speaker 3: I dated a woman, this is many, many years ago,
16:34
Speaker 3: who she traveled all over the place. And I remember,
16:36
Speaker 3: to be completely honest, I remember asking her, well, you
16:41
Speaker 3: were single in Thailand?
16:45
Speaker 2: What was going on there?
16:45
Speaker 3: And she's like, women don't go to Thailand for the
16:49
Speaker 3: same reason that men go to Thailand. She's like, she
16:52
Speaker 3: was like, let me just put it to you that way.
16:54
Speaker 4: Okay.
16:55
Speaker 3: But, you know, at the same time, you know, I
16:57
Speaker 3: think it would be, you know, it would be just
17:00
Speaker 3: as bad as the tech talk dude making generalizations that
17:02
Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. I'm sure there are some women who
17:05
Speaker 3: may do that in their travels.
17:08
Speaker 4: God bless them.
17:09
Speaker 2: God bless them. You know, I mean, they're free to
17:10
Speaker 2: do it too.
17:11
Speaker 3: Just like, like you said, the same hijinks as the guys,
17:14
Speaker 3: but I have not, that's never crossed my mind as
17:16
Speaker 3: something when I first see that a woman's like, you know,
17:19
Speaker 3: here I am.
17:21
Speaker 2: You know, in Bali. And I'm, you know, I'm like,
17:23
Speaker 2: I'm not like, Oh, okay. Some Bali dude.
17:25
Speaker 5: But there is like a very clear generalization for a
17:29
Speaker 5: traveling salesman, you know, that they, that they are, you know,
17:32
Speaker 5: they are on the road and they're, they're living their
17:34
Speaker 5: double life and they're, you know, they're going and doing,
17:37
Speaker 5: doing their thing when they're traveling. And, um, and I,
17:40
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of women are, you know, you know,
17:42
Speaker 5: I think thinking about men that way, I just don't
17:45
Speaker 5: know that I have that same impression of a, of
17:49
Speaker 5: a woman doing the same thing.
17:50
Speaker 4: And I don't, I just don't.
17:53
Speaker 3: I travel kind of a lot for the deal or
17:56
Speaker 3: no deal stuff. And it's always funny for me because
18:00
Speaker 3: Canyon ruins any salesman thing in my mind. If I'm
18:07
Speaker 3: going to sit at the hotel bar and be approached
18:09
Speaker 3: by some woman in my mind, Canyon will always go.
18:12
Speaker 2: Well, have a great time at deal or no deal.
18:15
Speaker 3: And I'll be here with the kids and just wear
18:17
Speaker 3: a rubber.
18:17
Speaker 4: Don't forget.
18:18
Speaker 2: And I'll be like, She does it every time I'm leaving.
18:21
Speaker 4: She has no faith in you to close. That's what
18:22
Speaker 4: it is.
18:23
Speaker 2: She doesn't. She doesn't believe I can do it. And
18:25
Speaker 2: you know what?
18:26
Speaker 3: I think she's really kind of groomed me to believe
18:29
Speaker 3: I can't do it either because I don't– I literally
18:32
Speaker 3: don't even sit at the bar anymore.
18:33
Speaker 4: She's losing your self-confidence.
18:35
Speaker 3: Totally.
18:36
Speaker 2: She's like self-destructing me as she goes.
18:39
Speaker 3: But yeah, apparently this whole solo girl travel thing is
18:44
Speaker 3: a turnoff for some dudes on the dating app. Yeah.
18:48
Speaker 3: I can say, honestly, if I were ever on a
18:51
Speaker 3: dating app, I would not see that as a turnoff.
18:53
Speaker 3: I would actually see that as being adventurous, as being
18:57
Speaker 3: someone who, you know, I love to travel, but I
19:02
Speaker 3: also am a homebody. So it's like, I kind of
19:04
Speaker 3: have this like weird dichotomy within myself where sometimes I
19:07
Speaker 3: just want to be on the go and see things
19:09
Speaker 3: and do things.
19:10
Speaker 2: And then other times, I think it's.
19:11
Speaker 3: Probably largely partially due to the age of my children, right?
19:14
Speaker 2: Seven and five.
19:16
Speaker 3: That right now I'm like, I want to be a homebody.
19:18
Speaker 3: I want to stay home. I want to go to
19:20
Speaker 3: their sports. I want to go to dinner.
19:21
Speaker 2: I want to spend time, you know, I want to
19:23
Speaker 2: watch a movie.
19:23
Speaker 4: I think that you're just saying that on the podcast.
19:27
Speaker 5: I think inside you're looking to get away whenever humanly possible.
19:31
Speaker 2: I'm inventing deal or no deals that don't even exist.
19:34
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm going to be in St. Louis
19:36
Speaker 2: this weekend.
19:37
Speaker 3: What?
19:37
Speaker 2: No, there's no casino there.
19:39
Speaker 4: God bless you.
19:40
Speaker 3: If there is a woman traveling the globe looking to
19:43
Speaker 3: sow her oats, Let's just say, keep on sowing.
19:48
Speaker 2: Is that a thing? Could you say that?
19:51
Speaker 4: I'll say it.
19:52
Speaker 5: The takeaways from this, I would say, first is that
19:56
Speaker 5: women should continue to flex their accomplishments, should show who
20:00
Speaker 5: they are, what they want, and not adjust it for
20:04
Speaker 5: a dating app or for anything. If you want to
20:06
Speaker 5: travel the world, travel the world. Um, I mean, if,
20:09
Speaker 5: and if somebody has an issue with it, that's, that's,
20:11
Speaker 5: that's on them, not on you. So I think that, um,
20:14
Speaker 5: you know, I'm, I'm kind of, I'm throwing girl power
20:16
Speaker 5: up here, but, um, you don't need, you don't need
20:19
Speaker 5: to be demure and just fall into a category because
20:22
Speaker 5: you think that's what guys want to see on a
20:24
Speaker 5: dating app or want to see in general. You go
20:27
Speaker 5: flex yourself, you go, you know, live your best life.
20:30
Speaker 5: And if you want to take photos of all of
20:32
Speaker 5: it and put it all over the place, go for it.
20:34
Speaker 4: Um, and, uh, and, and live your best.
20:37
Speaker 2: No, I a hundred percent agree, man. I feel like there's,
20:40
Speaker 2: you should never, God, I'm.
20:41
Speaker 3: Trying to think what the saying is, but my mom
20:43
Speaker 3: used to kind of say something like this where, you know,
20:46
Speaker 3: she would always go, well, the brightest stars in the
20:47
Speaker 3: sky shine brighter because you surround yourself with other stars. Right.
20:52
Speaker 2: And I would think that that kind of applies.
20:54
Speaker 3: Like you should never dim your light to make someone
20:57
Speaker 3: else think that you're more dateable or more lovable because
21:03
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, if at all someone's trying to
21:05
Speaker 3: squelch any of that, then they're just not the right
21:07
Speaker 3: person for you.
21:07
Speaker 2: And there's billions and billions of people out there. Have fun.
21:11
Speaker 2: You know, go do it. And especially, you know, now, like,
21:13
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm in my 50s.
21:15
Speaker 3: So I can think of that from the standpoint of,
21:17
Speaker 3: you know, if I were to be single and the
21:20
Speaker 3: last thing I would want to do is be sitting
21:21
Speaker 3: there going, man, she needs a chiller.
21:23
Speaker 2: I'm not going to date her. First of all, who cares, right?
21:26
Speaker 3: She's going to be like, I'm sure she's fine. But
21:28
Speaker 3: at the same time, it's like, why would you want
21:29
Speaker 3: to do that? You would want to be with someone.
21:32
Speaker 3: hitting their apex and you're hitting it together. Like, okay,
21:34
Speaker 3: let's go do all this fun and let's go have
21:36
Speaker 3: a great life. And if it works out great, if
21:38
Speaker 3: it doesn't, that's okay too. You know, it's like, I
21:41
Speaker 3: don't know. I just think it's all, it's all with intention.
21:43
Speaker 3: And as long as your intentions are good and you're
21:45
Speaker 3: really kind of meeting in the middle, then you're going
21:47
Speaker 3: to have a lot better experience than if you're trying
21:48
Speaker 3: to bring somebody down.
21:51
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a totally different show for a
21:52
Speaker 2: totally different day, Mr. Wright, but thank you.
21:55
Speaker 3: I appreciate you joining us on the show.
21:57
Speaker 2: As always, your insight and your wisdom speak volumes. Absolute volumes.
22:04
Speaker 2: You're not Mr. Right now. You are Mr.
22:06
Speaker 3: Right.
22:06
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say it. I'm just going to
22:07
Speaker 2: say it out loud.
22:09
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22:10
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22:13
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22:15
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22:21
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22:22
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22:24
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