Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Mega Edition: David Boies And His Battle Against Jeffrey Epstein (4/30/26)

Transcript

Mega Edition: David Boies And His Battle Against Jeffrey Epstein (4/30/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

0:00
Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
0:04
David Boys, lawyer for Virginia Roberts and Annie Farmer, has
0:09
given his first interview since Glainne Maxwell has been sentenced,
0:14
and in this interview with The Independent, he talks about
0:18
how the other people who were involved in all of this,
0:23
and as we all know, there were a lot of
0:25
other people involved in all of this, how they should
0:28
be held responsible now that Maxwell has been And for me,
0:34
there is no other way that this should go. When
0:40
you have as many people involved on a day to
0:42
day basis as we had involved with Jeffrey Epstein and
0:47
Glaine Maxwell. There is no way anyone can convince me
0:52
that this isn't a rico case and that there aren't
0:55
other people who shouldn't be brought in. We have all
1:00
of the names Virginia has given us already, and David
1:04
Boys and company they've handed all of that information over
1:08
to the Feds. They did that in twenty fifteen, so
1:11
it's not like the Feds didn't have this information, like
1:14
they were waiting for somebody to come forward and clue
1:17
them in on what happened. We all know what happened,
1:22
and the FBI drop the ball like it has many
1:26
many times before when it comes to severe, serious sexual
1:30
assault investigations. Just take a look at how they're on
1:34
the hook right now when it comes to Larry Nasser.
1:38
This is something that has been pervasive within the FBI.
1:43
They might not want to address it, but it's very
1:46
clear for everybody else who's paying attention that the FBI
1:50
really has dropped the ball time and time again here.
1:55
And if they don't go after this the way they should,
1:57
and they don't go after all these other people, well
2:00
it's just another fumble, isn't it? All? Right? Today? Our
2:05
article is from The Independent, and the author of this
2:09
article is Bevin Hurley. Headline Virginia Roberts lawyer on prosecuting
2:15
powerful abusers. There are many people involved in this beyond
2:19
Maxwell and Epstein. Virginia Roberts attorney tells Bevin Hurley, the
2:25
rich and powerful implicated in the Epstein Maxwell Maxwell's sex
2:29
trafficking ring deserve to be brought to justice one hundred percent.
2:35
And if there isn't a grand jury panel impaneled right now,
2:39
then I don't know what they're doing. Because there's as
2:43
much circumstantial evidence out there to arrest people like endyke
2:48
and Cohn and Sarah Kelln Vickers, as there was to
2:53
bring in Maxwell. So what are they waiting for and
2:58
why have they waited this long? When power else? Attorney
3:03
David Boyce received the news that Glainne Maxwell had been
3:07
sentenced to twenty years in federal prison for child sex
3:10
trafficking last week, he allowed himself a wry smile. It
3:14
was very satisfying, mister Boyce told The Independent in his
3:17
first interview since the sentencing. This was an important step.
3:21
There's no doubt this was an important step, a huge step.
3:26
It sends a message too, right, but it only matters
3:30
if the follow through continues. What do you think whoever's
3:35
out there engaging in human trafficking right now is going
3:38
to see the sentence that Glaine Maxwell got or that
3:42
r Kelly got and say to themselves, oh, well, this
3:45
isn't worth it. We're just gonna We're gonna stop, because
3:48
that's not gonna happen no matter how harsh the sentence is.
3:53
This needs to be a message to the people who
3:55
were involved. And the only way that this message can
3:58
truly be sent like they say they want to send
4:01
it is if they bring in the rest of these people.
4:06
But he also felt a lingering sense of unfinished business
4:10
about the many wealthy and powerful figures who have not
4:13
had to answer for their roles in Jeffrey Epstein and
4:16
Maxwell's decades long pyramid scheme of abuse. I get it.
4:21
I understand now. Obviously, I'm nowhere near as close to
4:26
all of this as David Boyce is. Dude's been in
4:29
the trenches fighting against Epstein and Maxwell four years now.
4:34
But I understand what he means with the unfinished business
4:37
part because I feel the same way here on this podcast.
4:40
There's a lot of unfinished business, and all of these
4:43
people like Indyke and Kahn and Vickers especially, they definitely
4:49
need to be brought in because if not, then what
4:54
has really been accomplished. Besides, you know, bringing Maxwell to justice,
5:00
which is great, don't get me wrong, as I've said
5:02
a million times, definitely a huge part of fixing the problem,
5:07
but it takes a little bit of the shine and
5:09
the laquer off of it if you don't follow through
5:12
it the next step. Mister Boys has for decades been
5:17
one of America's best known litigants, famously but unsuccessfully representing
5:23
the Democratic Party candidate Al Gore in a case against
5:26
George W. Bush to settle the contested two thousand presidential election.
5:31
The eighty one year old represented Annie Farmer and Virginia
5:35
Roberts in civil lawsuits against Epstein and Maxwell. I remember
5:41
when all of that was going on in two thousand
5:43
and you had the whole battle Royale about the hanging
5:47
Chad and the armies of lawyers and the lawsuits and
5:51
all of the days it took to get the election
5:53
locked in. And still there's a lot of people who
5:56
don't even believe that those election results were what the
6:01
In twenty fifteen, he handed over their entire civil file
6:05
to the Justice Department in the hopes they would investigate
6:08
and prosecute Epstein, Maxwell and some of the dozens of
6:12
other rich and powerful associates named and identified by miss
6:17
miss Roberts. And this should this should have happened back then.
6:21
All of those people who were directly implicated by Virginia Roberts,
6:26
especially considering she went on record and stated those names,
6:31
those people should all be looked at under the world's
6:35
largest microscope. Every one of them should be brought in
6:39
put under oath, and they should all have to testify
6:42
about their relationship with Epstein, and that includes guys like
6:45
Bill Richardson. Because everything we've heard from Virginia leading up
6:52
to this point has been at least some of the
6:55
foundational basis for these convictions, and we've seen what's happened
6:59
to people when there's been defamation lawsuits as well, those
7:03
people end up getting charged afterwards. She has shown that
7:10
she's to be believed, at least in my opinion, So
7:15
when she's pointing her finger at these other people, why
7:18
should I believe that they weren't involved, especially considering that
7:21
you can put the receipts together and the paperwork to
7:26
put them in Epstein's presence a whole bunch of times.
7:31
So all of those people, every last one of them,
7:35
should be brought in. And if this was a Rico
7:38
case like it should have been, they all would have
7:40
been brought in. But so far only three people have
7:45
been held criminally liable. They are Epstein, who died by
7:49
suicide in prison in twenty nineteen, allegedly aged sixty six
7:54
while awaiting trial for sex trafficking, his close friend Jean
7:58
Luke Brunel seventy six, who in February hanged himself in
8:01
a Paris jail where he had been held for a
8:04
year on suspicion of rape of miners and trafficking of
8:07
miners for sexual exploitation. And Maxwell convicted in New York
8:12
on five sex trafficking counts in late December and jail
8:15
for twenty years at her sentencing on June twenty eighth.
8:19
But you know, it's just a coincidence that Brunell and
8:22
Epstein both suffered the same fate. Huh. Now with Brunell
8:26
doesn't seem as odd the matter of his death. Again,
8:32
I'm not an expert on French lockups or French prisons,
8:37
so I'm certainly not somebody who would sit here and
8:40
tell you with any confidence one way or the other. Oh,
8:43
I'm certain that xxx or X occurred in that French jail.
8:47
I have no idea. Looks to me like Brunell probably
8:52
killed himself. Now is that one hundred percent certain? Man?
8:56
Is anything one hundred percent certain in this case besides
8:59
the fact that these people are scumbags. But with Epstein, boy,
9:04
oh boy, they're sure. Is a lot there the cameras,
9:07
our TAGLIONI I won't beat a dead horse. But you
9:10
get my drift. There are many people who are involved
9:15
in this beyond Maxwell and Epstein and Brunel. Mister Boyce
9:18
told The Independent sex trafficking could not have gone on
9:21
remotely at the scale at which it went on, or
9:24
for the duration that it went on, without the collaboration
9:28
and cooperation of a lot of additional people. These people
9:32
too should be brought to justice. But as time goes
9:35
on and the prosecutors don't do anything, I think the
9:38
chances that actually happens diminishes. Look, he's not wrong, he's
9:43
not wrong. He's just given you the truth. We all
9:45
want to hope and pray that the prosecutors are going
9:48
to move forward and that the co conspirators are going
9:51
to be brought to justice, but we also know that
9:56
the reality that we live in, there's little of that
9:59
to be had. Many of the famous names who flew
10:05
on Epstein's so called Lolita Express private jet have come
10:09
out during civil litigation and at Maxwell's trial. They include
10:13
Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, and Prince Andrew. The two former
10:17
US presidents have adamantly denied any knowledge of Epstein's crimes,
10:21
while Prince Andrew settled a civil sexual assault case with
10:24
Miss Roberts for a reported seventeen million in February, they
10:28
say fourteen million here. That's not the right number. But
10:32
there are many names who have remained out of the
10:34
public eye, their identities hidden in sealed files at the
10:39
Justice Department. A lot of the materials from the are
10:42
twenty fifteen sixteen civil actions which the government got are
10:46
still sealed to the public. Mister Boyce said these kinds
10:50
of records should not be sealed. He is one hundred
10:53
percent correct about that, especially in this case. If there
10:56
is any elect official or anyone who's taking or has
11:00
taken public money involved in any lists such as this,
11:03
they should be outed right away. They generally fall into
11:08
two categories, mister Boyce says. They are Epstein and Maxwell
11:12
lieutenants who are involved in recruiting, grooming, and supervising the
11:16
survivors that were trafficked. And then there are the other
11:20
people who the survivors were trafficked to, which include a
11:23
lot of rich and powerful people around the world. Mister
11:26
boys added, they're all heavily protected by cadres of lawyers
11:31
and pr consultants and political consultants, and you've got to
11:35
have a prosecutor who is really committed to the cause
11:37
of sex trafficking, that is prepared to take that group on. Well,
11:41
if there's any prosecutor out there who has that courage,
11:46
you better believe that there are plenty of us who
11:49
are ready to take the fight to these people. And
11:53
if you have any kind of interest in later on
11:56
political office, this is a surefire away to get yourself alone.
12:00
You go after people like Epstein's associates, you are definitely
12:05
going to get the attention of people who are paying attention,
12:10
and those votes, boy, they'll sure pour in. Imagine that campaign.
12:14
I'm the man or a woman who put away Jeffrey
12:17
Ebstein or Epstein's associates. I mean, I continued the case
12:22
when no one else wanted to do it. My career
12:24
could have been ended, you know, YadA YadA, YadA, YadA.
12:27
But there's no one out there that wants to do it.
12:29
Why what are all of these prosecutors so scared of? Again,
12:34
it comes back to the SDN Y right, Like I
12:36
always say, the folks over at the SDNY, they run
12:40
around and they talk about how they're the greatest at this,
12:42
they're the greatest at that. They bring in all these convictions, well,
12:46
where are they at. They bring in convictions if it's
12:50
you know, people like maybe Khalif Browder or your cousin,
12:54
But when it comes to these rich and powerful people
12:57
like Glenn Dubin, like Les Wexner, like Alan Dershowitz, these
13:01
people don't get brought to justice. That's only for peons, right,
13:05
the children of never like us. Mister Boyce said, many
13:10
of the survivors were easy to ignore, as Epstein and
13:13
Maxwell deliberately sought out vulnerable girls, often from single parent
13:17
households and difficult financial circumstances. Some had already suffered sexual abuse.
13:24
More names are coming out all the time. The question
13:27
is whether that results in people being brought to justice.
13:30
I'm a little pessimistic at this point. Yeah, he's not
13:35
the only one, and he has all rights to be
13:37
because it is a cause for pessimism. You would think
13:42
that when they had the chance here with Maxwell, they
13:45
would have really extended the scope of what they were
13:48
going for. But they didn't do it. And at the time,
13:52
I've said a million times it's very concerning to see
13:56
the small scope of what their charges are. And then
14:00
come time for sentencing and the trial people are all
14:03
shocked that a bunch of names weren't named. Well, if
14:06
you were paying attention, you knew that this case was
14:09
crafted in that manner. But now that Maxwell has been
14:14
hammed up and they've had a successful prosecution here, you
14:18
would think that they'd smell some blood in the water
14:21
and they'd go harder in the paint. But that is
14:23
not the case. During tuesday sentencing, Judge Alison Nathan named
14:29
former Epstein associates Sarah Kellen as a knowing participant in
14:33
the criminal conspiracy. The judge says this, and you mean
14:37
to tell me there's no prosecutors sitting around right now
14:40
stuffing their face full of expensive lunch food from Manhattan
14:45
in the SDNY that wants to go after these people
14:48
or after Sarah Kellen Vickers. Why is that mss Kellen
14:54
was identified by survivors at Maxwell's trial as having booked
14:58
them for massages with Ebste at his Palm Beach mansion.
15:02
The defendant Maxwell was Epstein's number two and lady of
15:06
the house, Judge Nathan said during the sentencing. At some
15:09
point Kellen took over some of the defendant's duties, but
15:13
even after that time, the defendant retained her leadership position,
15:17
as evidenced by Carolyn's testimony. Yeah, that's how it broke down.
15:23
She was the number two. I always break it down
15:26
in terms like the mafia. You have Epstein, he's the boss,
15:30
you have Maxwell the underboss, and John Luke Brunell. Well,
15:33
that was the Conziglieri. And underneath all of them are
15:36
the capos. And Sarah Kellen Vickers is as much of
15:40
a capo as Mike Francisis was. Carolyn was one of
15:47
the four survivors who testified at Maxwell's trial, and was
15:50
only identified by her first name. Miss Roberts's claim she
15:54
was trafficked to have sex with Harvard University law professor
15:58
Alan Dershowitz. The allegation has not been proven, and Professor
16:02
Dershowitz adamantly denies it or any knowledge of other offending.
16:08
And he is not the only one, right Dershowitz certainly
16:11
isn't the only one, But he's certainly one that had
16:14
the finger pointed at him. But has that affected him, No,
16:17
of course not. We saw mister I kept my underpants on.
16:20
Has he lost any status or prestige? Has anyone kicked
16:23
in his door? Stole his cell phone so they can
16:26
go through records. None of that happened. Instead, the naked
16:30
volleyball player of Martha's Vineyard finds himself in the spotlight
16:35
once again, defending Donald Trump, this time so another person
16:41
who has been credibly accused here has not had to
16:44
answer any kind of serious questions from people in authority
16:48
when it comes to what they're being accused of. In
16:54
twenty nineteen, Miss Roberts sued Professor Dershowitz for defamation and distress,
17:01
and he sends countersuitor. The case is ongoing. Professor Dershowitz
17:05
told The Independent in an interview he had visited Epstein's
17:09
home in Palm Beach and his private island, Little Saint James,
17:12
and never seen any young or naked women. It was
17:15
a deep, dark secret. Everything he did in part in
17:19
a part of the house which was off limits to anybody.
17:21
He said, nobody knew any of this. Nobody would have
17:24
associated with Epstein if we had known any of this.
17:27
Bro shut up, you're over there getting massages by who
17:31
the hell knows who at his house. Mister I kept
17:34
my underpants on, Dershowitz, and we all know what massage
17:38
was synonymous for over in the world of Epstein. So
17:42
Dershowitz is another one, and I'm glad he's going to
17:44
get outed here in this defamation case. Dershowitz said he
17:49
saw pictures on the walls of the Palm Beach Manchin
17:52
of the Billionaire with famous people including Bill Clinton and
17:56
Fidel castro h a man accused of sexual crime, and
18:00
the dictator Fantastic company. He had me on the wall.
18:05
I was one of the famous people, and believe me,
18:07
I was fully dressed. You know, he likes he makes
18:10
a joke of it, like anyone thinks he's funny, like
18:13
his old ass is a comedian or something. Bro. The
18:16
only thing funny is that you think people actually believe you.
18:19
That's what's funny. He said he believed Maxwell's sentence and
18:23
conviction was unjust. Of course he did Birds of a
18:27
Feather and all right. Mister Boyce claimed it was stretching
18:31
credulity for anyone in Epstein's orbit to maintain they couldn't
18:35
have known what was going on. Everybody who was associated
18:39
with the survivors has heard reams of testimony about how
18:42
obvious it was what Epstein was doing. Survivor after survivor
18:48
and law enforcement officers have testified how there were all
18:51
these topless girls at the swimming pool and naked pictures
18:54
of girls around the house. It was not something that
18:57
people could miss, No, it wasn't. He had pieces of
19:00
chess pieces carved into the likeness of his employees naked
19:04
and shit. He had pictures of gross ass, stank ass,
19:08
Gallaine Maxwell's busted ass all over the walls, naked and shit.
19:12
What do you mean you missed it? Mister Boy's chairman
19:16
and managing partner at Boys Schiller Flexner typically charges up
19:20
to two thousand dollars an hour for his services, but
19:23
he and fellow managing partner Sigared McCauley represented miss Roberts
19:27
free of charge throughout their pursuit of Maxwell and Epstein.
19:31
And that's great, that's good that they did that, But
19:34
in reality, we know that they also did it to
19:37
help their own profile. They know that moving forward, this
19:40
is good for them. They win this case against these people, bang,
19:44
they're gonna make a ton of dough. And the same
19:46
goes for a prosecutor. And that's why it's so crazy
19:49
to me that not one of these prosecutors, even a
19:52
junior prosecutor hasn't stepped up to the plate and said, look,
19:55
give me that whole entire case load and let me
19:57
slam these fools in court. On Tuesday, Miss McCauley read
20:04
a survivor impact statement from Miss Roberts which she described
20:07
Maxwell as a wolf in sheep's clothing. You could have
20:11
put an end to the rapes, the molestations, the sickening
20:13
manipulations that you arranged, witnessed, and even took part in.
20:18
You could have called the authorities and reported that you
20:21
were part of something awful and she didn't. Right, And
20:24
if you don't do that, then what you're complicit? Oh?
20:28
I was scared. I was held against my will. Okay, Well,
20:31
what happens when Epstein is gone from your life and
20:33
you still have not come forward. Speculation that Maxwell could
20:38
flip on her former associates in order to receive a
20:41
reduced sentence has never eventuated. Her brother, Ian Maxwell told
20:46
The Sunday Times in January that she had no plans
20:49
to pursue a plea deal or offer up information about
20:53
who else was involved. Maxwell has maintained her innocence and
20:56
plans to appeal the verdict and the sentence. The Independent
21:00
contacted the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of
21:03
New York to ask if it plans to prosecute anyone
21:07
else in relation to the conspiracy, and, if not, whether
21:11
it would unseal any records related to the case. Public
21:14
affairs chief Nicholas Biassi declined to comment. Oh, of course,
21:19
that's what they'll say. Oh, it's an ongoing investigation. You
21:22
can't have any of these files. You know, you the taxpayer.
21:25
So if this is not an ongoing investigation still and
21:29
they're not going after the co conspirators, they need to
21:31
turn over and unseal every file that they have and
21:36
then let's see what's what My guess is. Unfortunately, folks,
21:40
they won't do either. All right, that's gonna do it.
21:44
If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
21:46
at Bobby Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo Bby
21:51
c ap u Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can
21:56
also find me on Twitter at Bobby underscores u Cci.
22:02
The link that we discussed can be found in the
22:04
description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program.
22:11
On today's episode, we're going to hear from David Boys,
22:15
who represented Virginia Roberts, and who's talking about how strong
22:19
the evidence was against the Joe exotic of the Windsor family.
22:24
Now we all know that Prince Andrew has made this
22:27
huge push lately about the picture and how the picture
22:31
is not real. Well, we also know that all of
22:34
the receipts have been piled up against him and his claims.
22:39
And when the only person you have out here talking
22:41
about how innocent you are is some beat up ass
22:44
old socialite, you know that you're running out of road.
22:50
And if Prince Andrew and his team really thought that
22:53
this picture of Virginia Roberts and Prince Andrew was fake,
22:57
do you really think they would have settled. Forget all
23:00
of the noise about how Prince Andrew was forced to settle,
23:04
how it had to do it the jew Beilee. Forget
23:06
all of that, and ask yourself, if it was you
23:10
and you had evidence that that picture was fake, would
23:13
you even entertain cutting a deal. I know I wouldn't
23:16
if somebody made these accusations against me, I would fight
23:19
tooth and nail to prove that I didn't do what
23:22
they're saying I did I certainly wouldn't settle out of
23:25
court if I thought that I had evidence that would
23:27
prove my innocence. And let's not forget that Prince Andrew
23:31
had probably the best lawyer in the business when it
23:34
comes to this sort of case, and that's Andrew Brettler.
23:38
So it's not like his counsel was terrible. It's not
23:40
like he was getting bad advice. The fact is the
23:43
evidence was so strong against him him and his lawyers
23:46
took a look at it and said, you know what,
23:49
it's in our best interest to just settle. So all
23:51
this other garbage we're hearing after the fact is laughable
23:55
at best. You had your chance to prove your innocence
23:58
and you avoided it. And when you cut through all
24:00
the bullshit, the proof is right there in the pudding.
24:03
And that proof is Prince Andrew decided to settle instead
24:07
of defending himself in open court. And for me, that
24:11
tells us the whole story. Today's article is from the
24:15
Daily Mail headline I think the evidence was too strong.
24:19
Lawyer for Prince Andrew's sex abuse accuser, Virginia Roberts claims
24:23
Duke of York avoided going to trial because of that
24:27
photo of them together. This article was authored by Madeleine Ross.
24:34
The lawyer representing Prince Andrew's sex abuse accuser, Virginia Roberts,
24:38
last night, said there was strong evidence in the case.
24:42
David Boys said, if US prosecutors had wanted to, they
24:46
could have brought more charges against the Duke of York
24:49
and there's no doubt that the prosecutors had the goods
24:52
on Prince Andrew as well as many other people who
24:55
were involved with Jeffrey Epstein, but they chose not to
24:58
act on it. Many times have we seen it. We
25:01
have seen damning evidence come out surrounding people involved with
25:05
Jeffrey Epstein, and we never see those people ever get
25:09
held to account. The lawyer said he thought Andrew avoided
25:14
court because the photo of him with the then seventeen
25:18
year old Miss Roberts made him look less credible as
25:21
a witness, as he maintains that they never met. And
25:24
that's a fact. Right. If they went to court and
25:27
a jury saw this picture and an expert came in
25:31
and looked at the picture, examined it, the expert's going
25:34
to tell the jury that it's a real picture, and
25:37
that is the only reason why Prince Andrew decided to
25:40
settle your folks, what other reason could there be? And
25:43
if the picture is fake, like Prince Andrew and his
25:47
surrogates content, well, where are the receipts to prove to
25:50
us that that's the truth. Should we just take your
25:53
word for it? All of a sudden, you and your friends,
25:56
the busted up socialite and the others are biography experts,
26:00
and I should take their word on what's photoshopped and
26:03
what's not. Meanwhile, on the flip side of that, we
26:06
have heard from actual experts who have told us the
26:09
picture is authentic and real. So why would I believe
26:13
anything that the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family is
26:16
yapping about. He paid a rumored ten million pounds settlement
26:20
to Miss Roberts last year in a civil case brought
26:23
against him in the US without accepting liability and maintaining
26:27
his innocence, and is reportedly trying to challenge the ruling.
26:32
That would be the biggest mistake Prince Andrew ever made. Remember,
26:35
he is still not spoken with the FBI yet, and
26:38
the FBI has been pretty adamant that they'd like to
26:41
speak with Prince Andrew in regards to his relationship with
26:45
Jeffrey Epstein and what he might have seen while he
26:47
was hanging out with Epstein. But Prince Andrew can't be
26:51
bothered to come forward and talk about that, because you know,
26:54
why should he. Andrew was forced to step away from
26:58
royal duties in two thousand and eight nineteen, and is unlikely
27:01
to take on a formal role at his brother's coronation
27:05
as a result of the scandal. A poor Prince Andrew.
27:08
He can't go out and play dress up in his
27:10
little military outfit. Mister Boyce told Pierres Morgan in an
27:15
interview on Talk TV that the controversial photograph of the
27:18
two together made it clear that he could not say
27:21
he never met her credibly. The Son reported. Mister Boyce
27:26
suggested that once a jury had decided that the Prince's
27:29
claim that he had never met miss Roberts was not credible,
27:32
it would be difficult for them to believe they had
27:35
not had sex. And that's a fact. If you're lying
27:38
about ever meeting somebody, and then a picture is provided
27:41
that says that you actually did meet, well, what does
27:44
that do for your credibility in front of the jury.
27:47
It absolutely tramples it. You have her testimony and you
27:52
have his complete denial. The question is is he credible
27:56
or not. The lawyer said he had been disappointed by
27:59
the the case had been handled, and suggested that if
28:02
the Duke of York had been ordinary, more charges would
28:06
have been brought against him one hundred percent. If all
28:09
of these people who were involved with Jeffrey Epstein were
28:12
just run of the mill folks, forget it, they all
28:14
would have been arrested, all of their assets would have
28:17
been seized, and the government would have laughed all the
28:19
way to the bank. But since it's Prince Andrew and
28:22
Jeffrey Epstein was rolling around with all those bankers and
28:25
scumbags from the financial sector, well, we all know who
28:29
pays the bills for the politicians. He could have been
28:33
prosecuted criminally if prosecutors either had the jurisdiction over him
28:37
or wanted to. I think one of the things that
28:40
was disappointing how lightly the British prosecutors and authorities treated this.
28:46
I don't know whether it was because he was a
28:47
member of the royal family or whether he was just
28:50
wealthy and could afford good lawyers. I'm gonna say it's
28:53
a little bit of both, and the way that this
28:56
case was treated in the UK is an absolute embarrassment.
29:00
Our justice system in the United States, as well as
29:03
our justice system in the United Kingdom, greatly favors people
29:07
who are well represented, and that's the truth, right especially
29:11
here in America. It's certainly paid a play. And if
29:14
you have a high powered lawyer who has all of
29:16
those connections behind the scenes, you're going to have a
29:19
better chance of getting away with whatever crime you committed,
29:23
or being found innocent of a crime you're accused of.
29:27
I think if he had been an ordinary chap who
29:30
had done what he did, the prosecutors would have looked
29:32
at him differently. When asked if he thought criminal charges
29:36
would have been brought, the lawyer replied it was a
29:39
distinct possibility. I don't want to say that he would
29:42
have been charged because I think you've got to look
29:44
at what all of the evidence is. I haven't seen
29:47
enough evidence to know about criminal charges. Prince Andrew was
29:51
reportedly assembled an eight million dollar war chest to fight
29:55
the settlement that was agreed with Miss Roberts last year
29:58
to resolve a civil case. The disgraced Prince is understood
30:02
to be plotting a comeback that will restore his tarnished reputation,
30:06
including possible legal action against his sex abuse accuser, Virginia Roberts.
30:12
So I'd love to see it. Right. If Prince Andrew
30:15
has the goods, let's see it. All I'm interested in
30:18
is the truth. And if Prince Andrew has evidence that
30:22
proves that he didn't do this, well, let's see it.
30:25
But for all of these years, and for all of
30:28
the hubris and all of the big talk, we have
30:30
seen no evidence to prove what he is saying. He
30:34
is also reputed to be searching for new staff to
30:37
build up his team as he eyes a move to America. Boy,
30:40
that would be hilarious. If Prince Andrew moves to America,
30:43
that will be the biggest mistake he has ever made.
30:46
The furor surrounding the case led him to being stripped
30:49
of his honorary military titles, and any return to public
30:53
life seems improbable. According to insiders, the Duke of York
30:57
sixty two, has been watching Prince and Meghan Markle's progress
31:02
across the US very closely. The sixty two year old
31:06
was stripped of his royal titles and roles last year,
31:09
but insiders claim he is less bothered about the situation
31:13
than people believe. Oh, I thought he was crying. I
31:15
thought he was broken up about it. You see, they
31:17
can't even get their story straight. So I don't believe
31:20
anything that has to do with insiders in Prince Andrew's circle,
31:24
because those insiders are Prince Andrew, Fergie and like four
31:29
other people. A source close to Andrew told the Son
31:33
that he has been following the Sussex's journey as he
31:36
considers a way to forge a new career. Andrew is
31:40
seemingly impressed at how Harry and Meghan were able to
31:43
set up a new working life away from the royal
31:45
family in California. Friend said, well, here's the thing, Megan
31:51
Markel and Prince Harry aren't accused of diddling people or
31:54
hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. Their big crime is I
31:57
know this is real rough to hear, but they didn't
31:59
want to stay in England. I know that's a terrible
32:02
crime to commit and certainly worth all of the headlines
32:06
that we see on a regular basis. Now flip the
32:08
script to Prince Andrew and you tell me that people
32:11
in America are going to be accepting of that zero
32:14
chance he has a better chance of moving to fucking Mars.
32:19
The insider claimed. He is very interested in business and charity,
32:22
but unlike his nephew, would be shying away from the
32:25
Netflix style projects. The Royal is also reportedly reassembling a
32:29
team of his own. He has understood to have recently
32:32
lost his communications officer of two years. Prince Andrew has
32:37
reportedly assembled eight million dollar war chest to fight the
32:40
settlement he agreed to with Miss Roberts last year. The
32:44
news comes as it's reported that the Prince might be
32:47
forced to move from the thirty million pound wins Or
32:50
home as he tells friends he cannot afford the upkeep. Ah,
32:54
poor guy has to move out of his thirty million
32:57
pound home because he can't afford the upkeep. You see
33:00
this right here, that's me playing the world's smallest violin
33:03
for him. The Duke said he will effectively be forced
33:07
out of Royal Lodge in April when his annual two
33:10
hundred and forty nine thousand pound grant is slashed. So
33:14
the Duke has a ten million pound war chest to
33:16
fight a losing battle over a settlement that he already
33:20
agreed to, But meanwhile he can't afford two hundred and
33:23
forty nine thousand pounds to pay for the Royal Lodge.
33:26
Something doesn't compute. It is understood that the Royal Lodge,
33:31
where the Prince sixty three lives with his ex wife, Sarah,
33:34
Duchess of York, also sixty three, requires extensive work. The
33:38
Duke has told friends he feels he is being singled out,
33:41
as his other only annual income is a small navy pension.
33:46
One friend said it feels as though his brother wishes
33:49
to a victim. But last night, a source told The
33:53
Daily Mail the claim seems to be based on fears,
33:56
not full facts. It is understood the King will not
33:59
leave him homeless or penniless, but wants Andrew to use
34:03
his own money to pay for things. I mean, imagine
34:05
a grown ass man sixty three years old has to
34:08
be told to use his own money to pay for things.
34:12
Must be nice to just ride the coattails of mommy
34:14
and your brother for all of these years. The King
34:18
is expected to support his brother if he wishes, With
34:21
fears of the Duke being left without somewhere to live
34:24
or any money unfounded, he is believed to have guaranteed
34:28
Andrew an income a bit reduced and the Home and
34:31
has understood to have agreed to pay privately for the
34:34
Duke's security, estimated at three million pounds a year after
34:39
the Home Office acts to Scotland yard protection officers. Mail
34:43
Online has approached Andrew's representatives for comment. It's interesting here
34:48
to see David Boyce talk about that picture and about
34:50
how the picture was the deciding factor. That's something I've
34:54
been saying for quite some time. And when you have
34:56
that kind of evidence, right, if the evidence is real,
34:59
if it's solid, that's the kind of evidence that ends
35:02
these kinds of cases. Because if the jury takes a
35:05
look at it and they realize that you've been lying
35:07
this whole time, meaning Prince Andrew, your credibility is absolutely shot.
35:12
And once your credibility is shot in the courtroom with
35:14
the jurors, forget it, the game is over and you're
35:18
going to lose. Prince Andrew knew that. Andrew Brettler knew that.
35:23
And now that all is said and done, Andrew's trying
35:26
to engage in some revisionist history and he's trying to
35:30
rewrite what happened. Unfortunately for him, there's a whole lot
35:35
of us who have been paying attention. All right, folks,
35:39
that's gonna do it for this one. All of the
35:41
information that goes with the episode can be found in
35:44
the description box.