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Mac & Bone Hour 2: What's Next at TE After Adding Darren Waller · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I got great feedback from the guys following their conversations,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, the offense are said they're comfortable with
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: a physical as we want to make the practice the defense.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly that's the way they play. And so we had
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: an opportunity in the team meeting to just say, okay,
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: let's take the gray out of some of these situations.
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  Speaker 1: And that falls on me. If there's gray area, that's
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: because I didn't define it well enough. So we took
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: some clips from practice that kind of led to the scuffles.
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  Speaker 1: We looked at what it was that felt offensive that
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  Speaker 1: might have brought you know, that frustration and kind of
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  Speaker 1: brought it to a head. And so we just walked
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  Speaker 1: the place together and we had an open forum conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Guys talked about what they could do better if guy
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  Speaker 1: wasn't didn't quite have the information. I said, here's how
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  Speaker 1: I see this play playing out. So we just attacked
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  Speaker 1: it that way. The one thing is these guys are
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  Speaker 1: pushing each other. They understand we make us, We make
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  Speaker 1: us better by everybody going as hard as physical as possible.
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  Speaker 1: That brings out the best in each other. So we
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  Speaker 1: need that. But there are moments where we could do
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  Speaker 1: better and we improve that today.
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  Speaker 2: I like that from coach Canalis got the whole team
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  Speaker 2: together and they watched film Bony of the moments that
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  Speaker 2: what he called gray areas where that we're leading to
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  Speaker 2: the fights right where the defense thinks, hey, we got
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  Speaker 2: you a good clean hit and Bryce Shung is like, bro,
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  Speaker 2: you tell you what are you doing to my guy here?
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  Speaker 2: And so they got together they talked through it as
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  Speaker 2: a team offense and defense. To me, that's leadership from
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  Speaker 2: coach Canalis. That's very productive. And he also pointed out, too,
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  Speaker 2: we want this to be player led. He I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: he loved that. Bryce, Mike Jack and Nick Scott immediately
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  Speaker 2: got together and started hash out instead of like going
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  Speaker 2: to the locker room and offense goes with offense behind
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  Speaker 2: talks about the defensive guys behind their back. Those guys
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  Speaker 2: go talk about break you believe Bryce Man, seriously, those
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  Speaker 2: guys are soft on it. They didn't do that. They immediately,
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  Speaker 2: you know, leaders on both sides got together, and then
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  Speaker 2: coach got the team together. So listen, I know I'm
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  Speaker 2: a panther homer bone. I know this is the time
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  Speaker 2: of year where like everything in training camp we could
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  Speaker 2: spin as some amazing positive that means we're going to
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  Speaker 2: the super Bowl, But I just think I just think
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  Speaker 2: things like that are good.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's also a good sign because we often
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  Speaker 3: think of the best players on teams or the highest
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  Speaker 3: paid sometimes are your leaders. But Mack, that was the
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  Speaker 3: quarterback for the team who's a leader, But that was
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  Speaker 3: Nick Scott and Mike Jack. Mike Jack is not the
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  Speaker 3: highest paid corner, Nick Scott is not the highest paid safety,
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  Speaker 3: but yet they're there in leadership roles. So I think
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  Speaker 3: the good teams MAC have leaders a bunch of them
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  Speaker 3: all over the roster. And it's not just better player,
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  Speaker 3: highest paid definitely one, Nick Scott and Mike Jack. My
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  Speaker 3: Tack's a good player, for get me wrong. But when
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  Speaker 3: they're involved in the leadership, that tells you that it's
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  Speaker 3: not just the name brand guys that are leading this thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's leadership mumping down the ross.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not comparing this team. It's twenty fifteen. Don't
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  Speaker 2: don't don't go, uh, don't go, clip me, kids, don't go.
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  Speaker 2: Say Mac is on here saying we're twenty fifteen all
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  Speaker 2: over again. But Roman Harper, Kirk Coleman right. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just the superstars on the team. They had got Charles
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  Speaker 2: Tillman came in. They had guys that were leaders all
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  Speaker 2: over the place on that team. Let's give the people
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  Speaker 2: what they want, because what the people want is Darren
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  Speaker 2: Waller talk. And let's give the people what they want.
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  Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers reportedly signing Darren Waller the tight end to
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  Speaker 2: a one year deal. Looks like Adam Schefter at ESPN
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  Speaker 2: had it first. This one has implications for a certain
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  Speaker 2: tight end on the roster, we think, and this one
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  Speaker 2: certainly could have implications on this offense as a whole.
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  Speaker 2: Do you view this? It seems like most fans are like,
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  Speaker 2: really pumped about this. We had one guy bone when
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  Speaker 2: I said, when I said earlier about us, the Panthers
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  Speaker 2: want to be a running football team and Canalis has
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  Speaker 2: to stick with the running game and all that sort
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  Speaker 2: of stuff, and he said, no, not now we signed
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  Speaker 2: Darren Waller. They want to be a vertical passing team.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I go that far. Now that
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  Speaker 2: we've turned into the greatest show on turf, I personally
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  Speaker 2: believe the running game and a downfield passing game are
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  Speaker 2: beautiful partners right, yes, run sets up the other. And
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  Speaker 2: then we had somebody on the text line like one
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  Speaker 2: negative dude saying, this guy gets hurt all the time,
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  Speaker 2: this guy's old. I feel like the truth is somewhere
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  Speaker 2: in between. We're not going to be you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean, like the greatest show on turf. But also
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  Speaker 2: this is a move that God, if he can stay healthy,
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  Speaker 2: he brings a dimension I'm not sure we have in
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  Speaker 2: our tight end weaponry.
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  Speaker 3: I have a vision for him. Magn Let me know
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  Speaker 3: if you feel this too. Maybe it's not a ton
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  Speaker 3: of catches, but maybe it's a number of touchdowns because
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  Speaker 3: they view him as something they need in the red zone.
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  Speaker 3: Or Bryce can can scramble around and all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: Darren Waller, whether it's the back of the end zone,
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  Speaker 3: can be a big target and can be a presence
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  Speaker 3: in the red zone. Because I know Tremble had some
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  Speaker 3: touchdowns last year. But I do wonder if they want
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  Speaker 3: someone mac that can make something out of nothing, that
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  Speaker 3: can find a spot in the end zone and be
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  Speaker 3: a big target in the red zone. So I do
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  Speaker 3: wonder if Darren Waller's got a number of touchdowns in
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  Speaker 3: the bag because I think he might be the red
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  Speaker 3: zone target they're looking for.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we saw last year against US. That is
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  Speaker 2: one out we saw a lot last year against US.
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  Speaker 2: He had five catches for seventy eight yards and a tuddy.
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  Speaker 2: Him and Jalen Walla destroyed US, especially early on in
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  Speaker 2: that football game when they went up by seventeen and
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  Speaker 2: WeGo down one off. Yeah, and Bryce brought the boys
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  Speaker 2: back big fourth down play Rice to t mac and
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  Speaker 2: they said giddy up. Anyway, Clearly the Panthers saw first
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  Speaker 2: hand what Waller can do, so I think that's part
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  Speaker 2: of it. Darryl Bevill, who's down on the Panther staff,
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  Speaker 2: was the passing game coordinator in Miami, so he saw
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  Speaker 2: what Waller can still do even though he's thirty three
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  Speaker 2: getting ready to be thirty four and sat out twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty four with retirement before coming back last year to Miami.
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  Speaker 2: But yes, red zone, that's one of the skills that
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  Speaker 2: you that I think he can bring to this team
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  Speaker 2: and be better than what we already have. Six touchdowns
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  Speaker 2: in nine games. That's that's some that's some red zone work,
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  Speaker 2: but also bone we didn't have and and maybe maybe
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  Speaker 2: some of this is our offense right the play calling
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  Speaker 2: as Frank Garcia Texan in the first hour. But we
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  Speaker 2: did not have a tight end catch a deep ball
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  Speaker 2: last year. Did not have one of our tight ends
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  Speaker 2: catch a pass that traveled twenty air yards or more.
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  Speaker 2: Darren Waller Bone played nine games last year because of injury,
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  Speaker 2: that's part of this, and five of them like it's
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  Speaker 2: just Tommy Tremble caught two passes that traveled ten yards
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  Speaker 2: or more in the air last year. Mitchell Evans caught
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  Speaker 2: two passes that traveled ten yards or more in the
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  Speaker 2: air last year. Darren Waller caught thirteen in just nine games.
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  Speaker 2: He's going he can catch the ball in the intermediate area.
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  Speaker 2: He can catch you downfield. Now, to Frank's point, Bone,
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  Speaker 2: they've got to call it. Bryce has to throw it.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think between your red zone point and
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  Speaker 2: the point I'm trying to make about his ability to
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  Speaker 2: do things further downfield, he could bring stuff to this
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  Speaker 2: team that our tight ends were not doing last year,
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  Speaker 2: like Sanders. And this is where JT. Sanders. Fanny gets hot.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like he is being brought in to compete
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  Speaker 2: with JT. Are quite possibly cost JT. As job and
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  Speaker 2: just snatch it away from him because those are the
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  Speaker 2: things bone, the getting downfield stuff, that's the stuff at
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  Speaker 2: Sanders they thought he would do when he came here
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  Speaker 2: because of his athleticism. He didn't do it. Last year.
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  Speaker 2: He averaged six plus yards a cat.
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  Speaker 3: You you brought up the really uh important note in
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  Speaker 3: the first segment. He was with Darryl Bevill in Miami
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  Speaker 3: last year, so there's a tie in there.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: Someone asked, what was the injury? Uh, he suffered a
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  Speaker 3: peck injury. With three different injuries last year. He had
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  Speaker 3: a Uh, he had a peck in Week seven that
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  Speaker 3: took him out, then he got activated in November, and
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  Speaker 3: at the end of the year he had a he
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  Speaker 3: had a groin injury. What was the third one? I
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  Speaker 3: don't see in oh, Uh, I don't see the other
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  Speaker 3: one on.
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  Speaker 2: Hippen quad he missed. He missed the first on there
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  Speaker 2: hippen quad in the preseason, missed the first three games,
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  Speaker 2: came back and played four, then had a peck injury.
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  Speaker 2: Then he missed games, and then he came back, played
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  Speaker 2: four games that had a groin injury and went on IR.
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  Speaker 2: So he was on i R twice last year. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to make this out to
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  Speaker 2: be bone like. We're getting Kellen Winslow in his prime here,
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  Speaker 2: Like I mean, guys already retired once it came back.
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  Speaker 2: So but like, I think it shows that they want
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  Speaker 2: more because this isn't this this to meet un saying
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  Speaker 2: thing about trembula evans. Those guys bone block their their
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  Speaker 2: fannies off, and those guys aren't in this role. Like
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  Speaker 2: you said of the move tight end, the mismatch tight end,
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  Speaker 2: the guy the tight end, we want to get down
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  Speaker 2: the seam twenty yards. But JT Sanders, I think is
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  Speaker 2: a guy that they had hoped would do that, and
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  Speaker 2: it just reeks of me. Let's see if we can
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  Speaker 2: get him in here, see if he's healthy, because we
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  Speaker 2: think he can do those things better than JT.
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  Speaker 3: Also, don't have to make perfect throws to him. He's
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  Speaker 3: a big target, so Brightce doesn't have to be the
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  Speaker 3: most accurate he need. Sometimes big targets are all right,
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  Speaker 3: they make up for you know, a back throw. Whatever
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  Speaker 3: you did say, Kellen Winslow in his prime meaning senior
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, to the youngins out there, I'm talking about pops.
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  Speaker 3: Not junior, the one who I can't say what he
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  Speaker 3: did I'm talking about ended up at Boston Market that
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  Speaker 3: one time. Kellen wins Kellen Winzow Junior, remember the whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: What was he doing? He's doing something with some chicken.
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: Nah right, yeah, he got caught.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: He's just leave it at deck.
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: He got caught the car by himself and the officers say,
• 10:09
  Speaker 3: what are you doing in here? And he said, I'm
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: looking for Boston More one of the all time excuses
• 10:14
  Speaker 3: ever made. How surprised videos used?
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  Speaker 2: That anyway?
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  Speaker 4: Good?
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, move on, Mac, Let's go google it. If you
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  Speaker 2: don't know the story, Google, We ain't going any deeper
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  Speaker 2: than that. So I think this could bring us things
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  Speaker 2: that Sanders has not been bringing us. Obviously, he's older,
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: he's gonna turn thirty four next month. But if they
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  Speaker 2: punt on JT. Sanders, is anybody gonna feel bad for him?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's had some injury issues in
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: his own ride bone, but I feel like he's in
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  Speaker 2: his third year. He's in the same situation as Trevor Wallace.
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  Speaker 2: Prove it or lose your gig, Like it's time third
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: year in it's time for it to be, prove it
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  Speaker 2: or lose your gig. Excels another one. It's it's why
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  Speaker 2: this twenty four draft class from Dan Morgan has so
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: many people looking at it saying, my god, what did
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  Speaker 2: you do?
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  Speaker 3: And that Sanders wooked was pre neck injury. He started
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  Speaker 3: to really come into his own and then that scary
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  Speaker 3: situation set him back, and honestly, unfortunately for him, he
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  Speaker 3: hasn't really been the same since then, or what we
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: thought he was going to be since then starting to
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  Speaker 3: whook the part and then he had the injury, and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he show the same. He did show flashes, There's
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  Speaker 2: no doubt about it early on, and you and I
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: were big fans of him early on. But like, you
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  Speaker 2: can't like use that neck injury excuse in your third
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  Speaker 2: season when it happened in your first one though, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like at some point you got to move on to
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  Speaker 2: your career and be something, you know. Yeah, And so
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  Speaker 2: I don't know this, Texter says, I think they're just
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  Speaker 2: trying to light a fire under Sanders. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's like maybe it's competition made the best man win.
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  Speaker 2: How does Waller look? Is he healthy?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: I mean the one rub is this dude says, here's
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  Speaker 2: the problem. You get rid of Sanders and Waller has
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: more injury problems, then you're then you're in trouble. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: another Texter. Can you keep four tight ends and keep
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  Speaker 2: Sanders and Waller?
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  Speaker 5: That means the bigger question back.
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  Speaker 2: I think Felipe Franks will be the fourth tight end
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  Speaker 2: on this fan, on this roster, no doubt so. Felipe
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  Speaker 2: Franks brings you the special teams like insanity, the coverage ability,
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  Speaker 2: the maniac you want running down there and hitting people.
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  Speaker 5: Do you think this is an either or situation?
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  Speaker 2: I definitely think it's either or. I don't think you
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  Speaker 2: need both these guys. I also think you need guys
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  Speaker 2: that do multiple things. Felipe Franks does multiple things.
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  Speaker 3: I also assume that they're trusting Bevill here, who's probably
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  Speaker 3: kept tabs with Waller knowing him definitely. I wonder if
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: they've been in contact. Hey, how you feel any good?
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  Speaker 2: You want to?
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  Speaker 3: I guarantee you Bevell has been the probably the go
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  Speaker 3: between here between those that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Are you psyched about this fitty because it feels like
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: some Panther fans think we just clinched the Super Bowl?
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  Speaker 2: It feels like and some panther. This guy's like played
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: nine games, so we have a part time player. Some
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  Speaker 2: fans are being I don't know, kind of stinky stinky
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  Speaker 2: turds they're putting their wallers. What do you what do
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  Speaker 2: you think? Fitty?
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  Speaker 6: Well, obviously this was a room mac that I said
• 13:14
  Speaker 6: all off season, I want to I called him Mac Brown.
• 13:18
  Speaker 6: For some reason, I wanted Dan Morgan to address, like
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  Speaker 6: you back to the draft process. I was a Sadik freak.
• 13:25
  Speaker 6: I wanted to draft Sadik in the first round. Then
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  Speaker 6: after the draft, I wanted there to be some sort
• 13:29
  Speaker 6: of move in free agency, maybe a trade to upgrade
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  Speaker 6: the room so I can I'm not gonna be not
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  Speaker 6: excited about that. That would be let me just say
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  Speaker 6: plum stupid on my part. What I questioned here is
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  Speaker 6: is maybe the timing of this move is as in
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  Speaker 6: regards to you saying it's either or. Had they had
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  Speaker 6: had they brought them back in in March, and he
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  Speaker 6: was here all off season and they've been battling through
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  Speaker 6: you know, Ohca's mini camp. I can maybe see it
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  Speaker 6: being an either or, but you're you signed this dude
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  Speaker 6: or what four weeks away? From the season. I know
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  Speaker 6: he has some familiarity with with with Bevil. I think
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  Speaker 6: there's a chance that that they carry both. I don't
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  Speaker 6: see j T.
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  Speaker 5: Sanders getting cut this preseason.
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  Speaker 2: Are you keeping five tight ends?
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  Speaker 5: I would, I wouldn't keep Franks.
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  Speaker 3: Well the Henry wide receivers are you taking then? Also no,
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  Speaker 3: he said, but he said he's staying at four tight ends.
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  Speaker 3: I Felipe Franks is more There's a very good chance
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  Speaker 3: Felipe Franks is more valuable in j T. Sanders point
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  Speaker 3: blank period.
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  Speaker 6: That's a pretty bad indictment on the guy you drafted
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  Speaker 6: to the third round.
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  Speaker 2: I think the fact Darren Waller has been signed is
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  Speaker 2: a bad indictment of j T. Sanders. But I think
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: you're undervaluing special teams or I mean, I think you're doing.
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  Speaker 6: You know, we know how important thirteen personnel has become
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  Speaker 6: in the National Football League. Are they wanting to get
• 14:47
  Speaker 6: more and you know that's what the Rams do a lot?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Or they wanting to have two receiving tight ends with
• 14:52
  Speaker 6: your blocker.
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  Speaker 5: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Sanders was a Day three pick, by the way, Fitty,
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  Speaker 2: he's fourth round pick. There you go.
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  Speaker 3: But still it's time. It's it's time to get to
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: step in fifty did that whole breakdown? Just to use
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: the word plumbing there also we will play we want
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  Speaker 3: to scenic were out there to get it there.
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was I thought that was a really
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: good joke, well played. I liked it. If people don't
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: know Darren Waller was married to Kelsey Plumb.
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  Speaker 6: He's already fumbled the bag once, man, he can't fumble
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  Speaker 6: it again, can he had?
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  Speaker 2: I was just going to say, uh, and then Fiddy
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  Speaker 2: went out and blurted it out and did it. I
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: was going to say, people in the text line are
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: trying to like analyze him as a football player based
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: on his divorce, and I'm not sure that's the way
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  Speaker 2: it works.
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  Speaker 3: Not sure that's the way it works. Analyze me as
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: a radio host because I'm divorced. That's true, man, that's true.
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  Speaker 3: We can't hold that against you. So anyway, Walls wanted
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: to know, was that a Kelsey Plumb reference?
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  Speaker 5: Here you go, damn straight?
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  Speaker 2: Heck, yeah it was. You think Fitty's You think Fitty's
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: funnies are just coincidental? Hell no, Dennis Miller very cerebral,
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  Speaker 2: hid it sense? Of humor.
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  Speaker 3: The dog, it's more like Galagher with a mallet, and
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Fitty's more like Dennis Miller here seven O four numbers
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: says Mac going here acting like Felipe Franks is a dude,
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: laughing my butt off. He is a dude in his
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: role that he plays. He's not a dude in the
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: passing game, but he is a very important guy in
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: special teams. I mean, Isaiah Simmons on special teams are
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: two absolute hound dogs.
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: Could you practice squad him or do you think Mac
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: if somebody practice squatch, someone like another NFL team would
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: pick him up.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I think somebody might pick him up. But again, I
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: have to be honest with you. If losing JT. Sanders
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: is going to make us cry in our beer, we
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: got issues like they have done this move because they
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: are they are not satisfied with j T. Sanders. I
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: think it's that simple, like honestly, and I don't think
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: we should, like you want me to go downgrade your
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: win total, Fitty if we end up cutting JT. Say
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: you seem shook by the notion that JT. Sanders could
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: be cut.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: I just don't get why it took them this time,
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: this late into the offseason to hell in the preseason
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: to address the tight end route.
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: So you're saying this urgency back in March. Then go
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: through camp and he's not progressed like they thought.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: So what Fitty says, I mean, I guess what Fitty's
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: saying makes some sense, right, Like, what you're saying is
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: that if this dude was ten training camp practices away
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: from you feeling like we need to replace him, then
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: why didn't you replace giving? Why didn't you bring in
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: a tight end in the offseason, in the free agency
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: of the draft? Pretty much? You know, I think that's
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: an interesting point. But my whole thing is these third
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: year guys. Fitty, I can't say it enough. Man, your
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: your scholarship is over. Like in the.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: NFL, get the five or five rule.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Now in the NFL, you get did they have any
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: does he have eligibility back in college? Maybe like Trevin
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Wallace too, you get into the third year and we
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: still don't know about you. It might be time to
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: say bye bye. That's all I'm saying. I'll give you
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the first two years. Third year, I think I think
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: that's where we get it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: And the problem is, Matt, Look, how many guys in
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: that draft class Excel year three, we don't know what
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: he is. Jonathan Brooks injuries, we don't know what he is.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: Trevin Wallace having to fight for his job with Claude
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: and Cherlist.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: I don't like that. And then you got Jay.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: That's four.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: That's four guys in that draft class.
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: Like you know, we had the conversation days did a
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: really good job with what the roster was, whether he
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: inherited to where it is now. But a lot of
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: it has been through free agency. The jury is still
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: out on who Dan Morgan is as a as a drafter.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: I know we drafted t mac and he was the
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year last year. But that first draft class,
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: oh buddy, yeah, we're gonna have to t it's a
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: chance that four of those guys could be gone next year.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: We don't have to talk more about that draft class,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. And like, who do you believe
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: in still from that draft class? I looked it up
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: bone because we were talking about did J. T. Sanders
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: have only have no deep ball last yearly and only
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: two catches of ten yards or more last year because
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: of the offense or was it because of him? Same system.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: He had three deep catches in his rookie year and
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: four catches in the intermediate, so seven catches between ten
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: ten yards plus he did He did it in his
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: rookie year. It didn't happen last year. So was he
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: not getting open when he ran those routes last year? So,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: but Darren Waller did that stuff last year. So I
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: just think I think they're looking and they should be
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: for somebody bone that can get beyond ten yards and
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: can you know, play in the slot great missman, Like
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: they're looking for that role, right, we know what Tremble
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: and Evans are, but we're looking for that role. And
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Waller did it last year and Sanders didn't. Something that
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: the defense has to be accountable for in the passing game.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Textan once you had during the break to rank your
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: all time Sanders former Cowboy Dion Sanders, JT Sanders or
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: Colonel Sanders.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: Oh that's easy, d On one, JT two, Colonel Sanders three.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: There he's still got JT over Colonel though. I gotta
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: be honest, fitting knowing your history with fast food, that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: is the shocking development.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Not a big KFC guy, man.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Really, oh man, they not have enough salads for your liking.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: First, he doesn't like Sloppy Joes yesterday. Now he doesn't
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: like KFC. He has food standards, know God.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Also, when we come back back, we're going to talk
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: to a member of the Clemson media. He hosts a
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: pre and post show for the Clemson Tigers. He's got
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: a podcast as well. It's his macam Bone debut. Grayson
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Mann joins us next on Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ Mack and Bone show
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: with you. All right, I think most people fired up
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: at least intrigued by bringing in Darren Waller one year
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: deal for the Carolina Panthers. And there's another storyline, Bone, JT.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Sanders will be watching him on Saturday. All right, what's
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: you gonna do? What's your response to this move? I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: wouldn't think Waller would be ready to play by Saturday,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: but we'll see. We'll see. Right now, though, we gotta
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: switch it up, and we got to talk a little
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: college football. And for Clemson fans, Bone, that have been
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: wanting to hear from people from someone other than you
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and me about Clemson. Yeah, they're tired of me right now,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: they're probably tired. Sure what happened? They probably tired of
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: your takes about the Clemson Tigers. Well, allow us to
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: present you Clemson fans with the Man of your dreams,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Grayson Man, Ladies and gentlemen, is here. He sat on
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: if Fitny can make plumb jokes, I can make great
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: man jokes. Grayson Man covers Clemson athletics and recruiting for Clemson.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Tiger Net also hosts the Orange Crush podcast and the
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: Tiger pregame show on the Roar down there in South Carolina,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and Grayson Man joins us to talk about the twenty
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: twenty six Tigers. Grayson Welcome to the show, man. How
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: you doing.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I'm doing good, the Man of the Dreams. Man, you're
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: flattering me for the first introduction on y'all show.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Here you go. I can tell you're blushing. I can
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: tell you are blushing right now. Let's all right. So
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: we played a clip of Dabbo in the first hour
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: of the show, and I'm sure you know exactly which
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: one it was from a presser this week, the one
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: about we're a bunch of nobodies and they got to
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: go out there and these guys got to prove there
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: of somebody. Do you get the feeling and you're you're
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: covering him and you're listening to everything he's saying day
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: in and day out. Is this an indication that this
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: is kind of the motivation? Like strategy is just hey,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: we're nobody, got we won seven games. We got to
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: prove what we are like? Is that what's going on
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: in that quote? Or am I reading too much into it?
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: It's certainly a different change up guys. And what's fascinating
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: about Sweeney is And this is the question I asked him,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: was you try to get with anything that Dabo does.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: He's a big cheerleader and is not short of optimism.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: So usually when you ask hey, who so far on
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: campus getting out to you, he'll give you a five
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: or ten minute monologue about, oh, man, like these guys X,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Y and Z are standing out. You guys just don't
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: know it yet. Everyone makes fun of me for making
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: too much praise about these guys, and then yes, you're are.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: I think it was Tuesday?
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: Excuse me? Rather, he just is like, Nope, we're just
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: a bunch of nobody and we are going to have
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: to have nobody's turning to somebody's on Saturdays, and I
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: think the fan base has respond well to it, where
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: they're sort of tired of the trademark optimism and they
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: want to see results after a seven to six campaign
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: from last year. So it definitely felt a little different,
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: very purposeful press conference from Sweeney on Tuesday, very tight lipped,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: a little bit short with us with a scrimmage coming
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: up on Saturday, So definitely a little bit different Gabbo
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: than what we're used to.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: The Zena taking over at quarterback for Club Nick. How
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: how has he worked so far? What's the word on
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: his camp and what do you think Grayson is a
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: fair expectation for a Zena year one as a starter.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this has been the talk of the town with
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: him battling true freshman Tate Reynolds. Than our understanding is
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: is that the Zena has really taken over this fall
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: and made sure that this is a battle that I
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: think the gap is a little bit wider than maybe
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: the public has anticipated with how he's performed so far
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: as the first week and a half. And this is
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: someone that just when you gather from people inside the building,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: this is someone that even before he was the guy
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: taking over even with Kate Clubbick in the building, this
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: was someone that everyone in that locker room was ready
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: to rally behind, specifically with what happened at the SMU matchup,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: where he kind of gets thrust it in at the
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: last minute, throws three touchdowns, performs rather well, and you're
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: just sort of waiting for him to step out of
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: the shadows and become Clemson's next quarterback. So I think
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: an expectation is we still don't know what this is
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: going to look like. Obviously he had a great showing
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: against SMU, but SMU's pass defense, I think the three
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: of us could go out there and perform well against
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: that defense. Last year, I think it ranked at the
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: bottom of yes. So to say that it's going to
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: be the same against LSU and Death Valley, that certainly
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: may not be the expectation of everybody in the fan base.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: I think we're all in wait and see mode. It
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: still feels very new and so a variety of things
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: can happen. But I do think under Chad Morris's offense,
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: he's going to be more of a point guard at
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: quarterback and just try to be the distributor. Don't make
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: the backbreaking turnover and if Clemson can just win that way,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: They're gonna have to win a specific way this year,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: but I think a lot of it's gonna be a
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: lot of It reminds me of Carson Beck and that
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Miami playoff run where you just got to not screw
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: this up for us, and I think we can take care.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Of the rest. We're talking with Grayson Manny covers Clemson
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: for Clemson Tiger Net. We're talking Clemson. They're in camp
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: right now, obviously getting ready for that LSU opener. You
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: mentioned Chad Morris in the return. This one that's I'm
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: trying to figure this one out, Grayson, because like, obviously
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: he was great when they were there, and I do
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: think he's the type of guy that can commit more
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: to the run game and get that going again for them,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: But also he hasn't exactly been killing it, you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: since he left Clemson. What do you think about the
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Morris return? Are there any early indications that give you
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: a gut feeling on whether this is gonna work.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one that it's a little bit strange
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: to me.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Guys.
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: It was one I think I think in January it
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: was one that I was a little bit hesitant to
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: I wasn't as warmed up to it as I am
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: right now with the Morris higher, But I think overall
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: it's somebody that's coming and brought out different energy into
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: the building. And after a seven and six campaign, you
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: need a shot in the arm and the worst way possible,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: and this guy has the trademark. He's kind of this
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: red bull guzzling maniac and is a football sicco in
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: all the right ways, and so that part of it
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: has certainly been a different change for Clempson. But this
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: is one it wasn't called plays in five years. So again,
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: like the quarterback, we don't know what this is going
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to look like, and so there's a sense of apprehension
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: from Tiger fans across the country as how this is
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: going to look against LSU Week one. I think it
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: could take a while and maybe by October you'll see
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: a little bit more refined refinery on the offense. But
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: I think right now, again like the quarterback, we're in
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: waiting see mode with how this is going to look.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: Speaking of Tiger fans, grace and take us into the
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: mindset of the Tiger fan here in twenty twenty six,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: what what would make this a successful season in the
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: fans mind and make them happy for the future of
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: this program.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: I use the word rebuild, guys, and it sounds weird
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: when you talk about it. Davosweeney Clemson led team because
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: the expectation has always been that it's a program competing
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: for national championships. But when you look at the last
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: several years and the body of work, I try to
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: remove what happened over a decade ago and really look
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: at what has Clemson done since twenty twenty two. Let's
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: just use that as an example. They won eleven games
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: in twenty two, but since then it's been nine wins.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: You sneak into the ACC Championship and win ten games
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: and make the playoff, and then last year, in a
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: year that everyone figured Clemson was a showing for the playoff,
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: you win seven games. So for me, it's can you
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: have some semblance of progress? Can you get back to
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: let's say nine wins, maybe you get that ten winning
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: a bowl game. I don't think it's as simple as
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: playoff or bus for this program. I think it's they
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: got to show proof of progress to a fan base
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: that's just looking for something, and so when last year
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: you deemed some of those games as really I would
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: say the words sometimes came out as a competent from
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: our understanding. And so let's say they can take down
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: on LSU. Let's say they can compete with a really
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: great Miami team, go out and survive on Friday Night
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: against Cal and be in the conversation. I don't think
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: it's as simple as if they don't make the playoffs,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: it's a failure. I think if this team has ten
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: wins by the end of it and can build into
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty seven, I think that's the right step for
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: this program that clearly lost its way last fall.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Last question I want to ask you is about the defense.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Last year's defense had all that NFL talent, and I
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: thought there'd be more production from the guys up front.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: The past defense, my lord, that was brutal. I mean,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: ask At Dabble will tell you. You know has told
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: you numerous times. Man, that's the worst I've seen our
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: past defense. Second year for Tom Allen, they still got
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: talent there is Do you think they're better on defense
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: this year? What do you think of that side of
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: the ball.
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: The phrase that I've gotten guys as additioned by subtraction,
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: which when you have the NFL draft picks that you had.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: I think that in April a lot of people were
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: puzzled when they kept seeing the Clemson name pop up
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: on the draft park. They're like, how is this team
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: seven and six last year? When you got guys like
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Peter Wood's going in the first round or TJ Parker
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: is the early second round the Buffalo Bills, And everyone's
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: scratching their heads, right, Avian Farrell going to the Falcons
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: that picked forty eight? How many games did this team
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: win last year? And I think that the big crux
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: of that, guys is I look at the secondary and
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: I think that's a unit, especially in the back end,
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: that got a lot better. You brought into transfer editions
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: and Corey Myrick and Jerome Parker that replaced I think
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: a really a secondary group. In the safety group last
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: year that was pretty terrible. They gave up a lot
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: of chunk plays. There were moments where the communication certainly
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: wasn't there. I think Terrell was fine and certainly did
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: enough to warrant the draft slot that he got, but
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: other than that, it was really it was a disaster. Frankly,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: at times. So I think that the secondary's improved. There's
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: a little bit better communication up front, and you have
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: some addition by subtraction there from the building from last year.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: So Tom Allen and this defense certainly feels like they've
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: got a better pulse on what they want to achieve.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: You'd feel better if the Luke Farelli situation didn't happen.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: He had a linebacker to co star with Sammy Brown.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: So you're just sort of I think if you're a
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: Tiger fan, you're praying Sammy Brown stays healthy. Obviously at
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: that position, it's always a big if. But I think
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: the talent is still there. You may not be as
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: talented as last year, certainly, but I do think the
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: pieces make a more cohesive unit for Tom Allen a
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: year two.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I just noticed that your Twitter background photo, despite being
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: a clenchon alum, it's Drake May as a Patriot.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Are you a be honest he Are you a Patriot fan?
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I am. My dad grew up in Boston, so I
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: was raised on the Patriots.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, it's go so well.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: It was going so well for us well as a
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: as a you know, as a Jets fan myself.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Good luck to you there, Hey, good luck, good luck.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fans are rooting for Kate Clubnick up there, man.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: That's right, Kate Club Nick. Kate Club MC doing some
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: things up there in jets camp byes. All right, Grayson,
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: appreciate you brother, Thanks for all the information. Man, Clemson
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: fans at Gray Underscore man with two ends twenty one
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: on Twitter slash X. Thank you, brother, appreciate it.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: You guys, take care of have a good one, all.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Right, duree you go, That is man Clemson tiger nets.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the fit daddy who joins
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  Speaker 2: us here with update time? Baby, what you got over there? Fit?
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  Speaker 2: It's all right to be a little hometown or a
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• 33:44
  Speaker 6: guy that wants Mac to retire. May not be happy
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: because Mac still in the air. But there may be
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: some excuse me, some people that were happy yesterday to
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: see Russell Westbrook retire after an eighteen year career in
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: the NBA, a legendary run, the majority of the time
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: spent with the Oklahoma City Thunder. He's going to be
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: a first ballot Hall of Famer. But the brody called
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: it a career yesterday, after eighteen years in the NBA.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Growing up, my dad told me that all about Oscar
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Oscar Robertson Jible double knowing whatever averaged that again exactly,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Russell came along and said, here, hold this.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Four years the average four years. You're right, no one,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: especially all them old heads. I know I'm an old
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: head now, but the older heads would have never told
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: you that could happen. By the way, how about that
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Laker sale too, man an NBA news Mark Walter just
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: bought that team bone ten months ago and is already
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: selling the team and he was just investigated by the government.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Like there's a lot going on there. There's a lot,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: there's something going on there. Man, But twelve point five
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: billion dollars, that's nice if you can get it right
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: when we come back. It's random crap.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Why is Bill Simmons just like Fitty Chick fil Ay
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: deserves some props. We have another reason why Peyton Manny
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: more than Tom Brady And get this back. We had
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: a huge upset in sports last night that you might
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: not be aware of yet. Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
• 35:14
  Speaker 7: Random crap, random crap. Mac and Boone talk, random crap,
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: random crap, random crap. Mac and Bone talk, random crap, random,
• 35:24
  Speaker 7: random crap, random crap, random crap.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Deuce fuck crap, Oh crap.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: We stink like a baby's blowout infested diaper. They talk
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: about crap that is random. It's the Queen City's favorite
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: morning tandem, Mac and Bone, random crap, Mac and Bone.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get into some random crap here, Bony.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Let's start with uh, with your story that you found.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I had no idea this happened, a major sports update.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: What could this be well, tell the city of Charlotte,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: bone Mac. You know Joey Chesnutt, he was here. He's
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: on a tour right now of different stadiums, mostly minor
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: league baseball stuff. He's doing various competitions, and last night
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: at a Lake Country Dockhounds game, Joey Chesnutt lost a
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: tater tot eating contest to two fans, and a lot
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: of people are wondering, Oh my god, is Chestnut starting
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: to lose it a little bit here? Or does this
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: happen often? And we just don't know when he loses
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: these things?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: So this is like what this is similar to what
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: he did to Charlotte FC match Yah yeah, yeah, where
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: he did the hot dog eating contest with the two
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: random fans. This also could be a it could be
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: a scripted thing too, where they let the fans win
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: or something.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: I don't you know what I mean. I think he
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: got the twitter the videos up. I quote tweeted it. Also,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: the hound the mascot is in his face the entire time.
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: How can you consume that amount of tater tots with
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: this giant hound mascot yelling at you the entire.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Face?
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Buddy? You think there was obstruction. There was obstruction, the
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: results should be thrown out.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, he did losing some random people though it
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: wasn't like he was in the major eating circuit here.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I wonder if I wonder if this was WWB style scripted,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: because clearly if the game Fitty and I were at
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: the Atlanta game, it was a whole scripted thing. Okay,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: you know, so I don't know what they ever do
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: a script where he loses. I wouldn't think so.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: But I'll tell you this though, if you're a Wisconsin
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: based minor league baseball and there.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Could be some big boys from Wisconsin, like former Wisconsin o'
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: lineman back in the day, that could just eat the
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: hell out of some tots. So I don't know, but
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I know this, if you're those two guys, you're going
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: to brag about that for the rest of your life.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Good thing it wasn't a Beard Dricken con because I'd
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: have been Romo.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: It's your own guy. I know, Fitty's done with it.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Fitty's trying to prove to us he's done with Romo. Man,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: though he's like CBS, he's done with Romo. How about this?
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: You know, we always love the fast Food News. How
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: about Chick fil a Bone On August twenty fourth, they
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: will aren't selling nationwide their chicken and waffles sandwiches and
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: their s'mores shakes bony. Oh my god, I have more
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: interest in the first.
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, not that I wouldn't eat the second, but
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: the chicken and waffles sandwich really caught my eye. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: it is a make sure I got to write up
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: here correct. It is maple waffles, honey butter. Anytime honey
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: butter's at it, it goes up a level. Maple waffles,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: honey butter, apple wood, bacon, and then of course the
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: fley of chicken there iMac For some reason, I'm not
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: sure why I've never had chicken and waffles together before.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure why I had what. I don't know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: it's just it's a miss on my part. It's such
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a great combo, isn't it fit?
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: But yet I look at sometimes I just google pictures
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: of them and I look at them, but.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I've never actually had them. And I need that syrup
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: to get on my chicken. Man, you know what I mean?
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I need my chicken glazed with some syrup, don't we all? God?
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: That's good. I cannot wait for that sandwich. Oh, the
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: s'mores sounds really good too. They've also got some more
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: favorite coffee coming as well. Done, Matt, and not coffee drinker.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: But to those of you that are, which is everybody
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: but me, go ahead and enjoy your summer.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: It'll be so good. I'll last for some more. Oh man, oh,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: look at you. I can't even keep track of all the.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Singers that are that are being thrown out here on
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: the radio airwaves right now. Now. We like eating, and
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you can tell right we get text all the time. Mat,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: all y'all talk about is food, food and football. Maybe
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Sir give us that, but we have found somebody bone
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: that also likes some breakfast food. Listen to Tom Brady's
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: on Shack's podcast and Tom Brady tells a story about
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: training with Peyton Manning in the summer, and listen to this.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: This made me like Peyton Manning even more and realize
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: that this is yet another reason why I like Peyton
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Manning so much better than Tom Brady.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Listen to this.
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: This is like twenty ten, okay, And I was like, listen,
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: I've been in the league ten years. I called Peyton.
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: It was off season I was like, listen, I love,
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: let's let's me and you get together. I learned from
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: all the other quarterback coaches. Why don't me and you
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: sit down and talk football for three days. I was like,
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: he's like, let's do it. Come to my place in Tennessee.
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: I fly down to Tennessee. Peyton and I spent like
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: all the time. We work out together, we play golf together,
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: we ride jet skis together at his house and we
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: drop course for eating meals. So he sits down for
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: breakfast and I'm like, hey, you know so and so
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: and is bread. They're coming to this old cabin, mister Rady.
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: What do you want to eat? I'm like, I'll take
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: you know, oatmeal and you know, two scrambled eggs. And
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: I said, and they're like, Peyton, what do you want?
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: He's like, I want biscuits, gravy, three pancakes, six six bacons.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I want three sausages.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, you.
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: Eat all that, you know, And I was like the
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: southern boy with all the good help and for the
• 40:54
  Speaker 8: comfort food. And then I was like a totally different
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: I don't even know was.
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: There any part of you that wanted to try that
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: in your three days.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: No, that's the thing.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: I don't have to.
• 41:01
  Speaker 8: I'm like, nah, I don't want the way I feel
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: after that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: Oh, he'll be sleeping the whole afternoon.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: First of all, that's that's pretty cool that after three
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Super Bowls tom Brady still was going to spentile his
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: rival to pick his brain.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: So that part of it, that's cool for both of the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: ball I love thing. It's pretty cool.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: But Mac the common man, the man of the people.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Peyton Manning went again, I like to have some avocados
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: as done, some egg whites.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: We can't relate to Tom Brady, and tom Brady is
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: like he's not even a human, like you have no
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: desire to eat anything like that. And Peyton Manning's chowing
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: down and still bawling out during the season. That's I
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: love that, You're right, that's more of a relatable man.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Shy Shaq was the one making noises in the background.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I was excited by the way. Speaking of being excited
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: about food details, multiple people texting about the Metro Diner
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: chicken and waffles that they say you should try, Boney,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: I need to chicken and waffles with some hot sauce
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: and syrup. Interesting little sweet and hot going on the area.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm not a hot sauce guy. I'm not a
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: hot sauce guy. But maybe I need to branch out
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: I need to try or at least at least to
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: get that syrup involved into chicken and waffles. Yeah, it's
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: good man, all right. Anyway, let's move along, Bone, Let's
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: move along, kid, shall we to Bill Simmons. I never
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: really thought of Bill Simmons and Fitty Bone as having
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: a lot in common, but yesterday a clip from Bill
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: simmons podcast went viral, and I'll be damned if him
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: and Fiddy might be the only two people Bone to
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: share this distinction in America. Listen to this.
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: Well, as you know from driving with me, I never
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: buckle it and I just wait a minute until it
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: stops doing the noise. Well, yeah, you don't buckle your
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: seatbell ever, man, Not really, that's a terrible I know,
• 42:53
  Speaker 8: I'm not proud of it.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I'm not proud of it.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: I just don't like Honey, No, listen, I know I'll
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: get skewered.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: I'm a bad example.
• 43:01
  Speaker 8: Sometimes I'll put him on if I'm going, like you know,
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: ninety five in the highway.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I might throw it down there, but.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a whole nother pun.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Makes Fitty told us this recently that he never uses seatbelt.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. I don't even notice it's there after
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: a few seconds. Why don't you get used to wearing it?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I remember way back in the day when it became
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: a law, and I'm like, okay, I gotta wear this
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: every time. At first, you kind of like, man, this
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: thing's annoying. But after a while, it's just it's like
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: you said, it's just there and you don't even know.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Before we get to the Fitty part of this, here's
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: here's what I'm concerned about.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Mac.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Do you remember the story of who Bill Simmons drove
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: from his house to the hotel at the All Star
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: break thirty minutes? Our man? Did he drive conkor nipple
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: with no seat going on? I'm telling you right now,
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I bet Con better have been buckled up.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Con. I need to know did you follow your uncle
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Bill and do what he did? Because he's not a
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: good example for you, young man. I need you buckling up.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Sherry ain't gonna let you not buckle. You can't have
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Bill drive or Superstar around in him.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Now, Fitty, what's your reasoning behind I've never understood this,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: this rationale.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Just the same as Bill Simmons. I don't care for it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: And my truck is old enough.
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: Like your newer vehicles, the seatbelt alarm is gonna buzz
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: until you have no choice but to click it in.
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: My truck is old enough that it only does it
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: after I go so far down the road and then
• 44:29
  Speaker 6: it just it disappears.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: It also disappears when you buckle in, So I mean, unfortunately,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: you may disappear if you drive around getting the wreck
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: without a seat belt.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like worried about you, fiddy, let me be
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: worried about me. I try not to be like the
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: radio station dad to some of you guys. I try
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: to not to bring that energy. Plus, I got my
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: hands full enough with the two youngsters at the house.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: You're on to dad progressive commercial. But like, don't you
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: feel like bone we need to do an intervention here,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: like fit you gotta.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Buckle baby, it's there to help save your wife. Like
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: a little uncomfortable whatever I'm trying, uncomfortableness, uncomfortable, being uncomfortable
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: in a car like pales in comparison to get seriously hurt.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: Well, drive safe and you don't have to worry about it.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: That's my model.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Drive like crap. You know what I mean? Well, you
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: know does your dad know this?
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was on the phone with I actually
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: got a ticket two years ago in front of this
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: is going to tie into a great story earlier.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, in front of the Old.
• 45:27
  Speaker 6: Boston Market in Matthews, I got pulled over because I
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: have a seatbelt on. I got one hundred and eighty dollars. Fine,
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: you think I wear my seatbelt now? No, that's another thing.
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: You don't want it to cost your money. I know
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: where the cops are, baby, because Daddy fit not tell
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: you. You're a dumb ass.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: You know where the cops are at all times.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: I know where on the roads that I travel, I
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: know where they like to hang out.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: And when I get close, I pop it on. I
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: am back passed by the spot right off. I'm begging
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Mecklenburg County, Union County. Some boy he humbled his dude,
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and get him all right. He thinks he's on to y'all.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: He think he is onto y'all's game. Somebody get him.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I want all points bullet. Did those cops.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: Humble the mellow Bone?
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: No, my goodness, you can. You can try to humble me,
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: it ain't gonna happen. There's no humbling the fit dog
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: when he starts.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Barking anyway, all right, so let me let me come clean.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Here's people are all over fitty. There's something yesterday, Bone
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: where people looked at me like I had an issue.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Yesterday the Panthers are playing. You know, a bunch of
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: different music at practice. A lot of it is rap music,
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: and I haven't really followed rap music Bone in a
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: couple of decades. You're a big Llo cool Jay guy.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: I did like yellow Cool Jay back in the day,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: but I didn't. I'm like, who's this guy's? Guy's got
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: a weird sounding voice, and it was Little Wayne. I
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: had never heard Lil Wayne rap in my life, and
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: everybody could not believe it is that bad? Is that lame?
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: That's not a good one, now? Did you that good?
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: Look?
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: That's what's worth that? Or when I called him with
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: the Wayne that one day, Yeah, that's right up there too,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: But like so you could identify low Wayne.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different sound, but yeah, I could. Yeah,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: it's definitely a weird sounding voice. I'm not like the
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: biggest fan, but I could. I could figure out who
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: he is. Is that like, is that an all time
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: old white moment for me?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: Fitting?
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would figure But what kind of music does
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: little Mac listen to?
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: Because I don't think Little Max.
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: You know, listen to much of how much a rap noise?
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I know he does appreciate grunge drives noise, just.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: At some point you would have gotten crumped to at
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: least one or two like six foot seven foot like
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: that was my eighth that's my seventh.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I listened to that dude's music. I can tell you
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: that right now.
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: Great text from Rachel.
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: She said, I cannot find a woman to take to
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: the bedroom across from my mama.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: If I'm dead through a windshield.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: There you go, Chel to sell your text lines trying
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: to tell you come on, fit, come on.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Maybe when you were on a date, you better and
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: you're driving you and she's with you, you better buckle up.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: Oh no, I want her to know that she's dating
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: a badass.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: God. We have specific officers, by the way that are
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: vowing to get fitty and teach them a lesson.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: They've now got a bounty on them.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Oh god, ball man bounty, Oh man, We're gonna boom.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: We're gonna radio parent this knucklehead. We're gonna teach this
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