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KeyForge Draft is FINALLY Here... So We Summoned the Guy Who Invented It · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: All right, well then let's get started. What's going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 1: I'm the one, the only, the w o o kay.
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  Speaker 1: I e about nineteen misfits short this week, but in
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  Speaker 1: their place I brought Pete. Pete's just you and me, Bud.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, I'll be playing the part of doctor Sheep
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  Speaker 2: and you walk and.
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  Speaker 1: Walk and Draz. I'm gonna need you to play all
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  Speaker 1: those multiple personalities at the same time. You can you
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  Speaker 1: can you handle it? I'm gonna need you to grumble
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and then do somer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's my drazcore.
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  Speaker 3: Laugh.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the things we did in Saint Louis
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  Speaker 1: is we drafted, and I figured better to bring on
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  Speaker 1: than the person who invented it? Your your lead tournament?
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  Speaker 3: What are you?
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  Speaker 1: You're not the organizer, You're the head judge, right, You're
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  Speaker 1: the marshall.
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  Speaker 3: Josh is the Marshall. But I am the head judge judge.
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  Speaker 3: When they feel like making me the head judge.
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  Speaker 1: Well you know him, you love him. It's Marcus. He
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  Speaker 1: invented draft.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going.
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  Speaker 1: I I gotta say I was I didn't know how
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  Speaker 1: I felt going into draft. I figured i'd kind of
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  Speaker 1: like it, and it was going to scratch an itch
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  Speaker 1: for me that I'd have for a long time, but
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  Speaker 1: getting into draft besides for having flaming Hobo to my right,
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  Speaker 1: everything else was absolutely stellar. Oh my goodness, was this
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  Speaker 1: everything I wanted it to be? In more?
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  Speaker 3: How I was first in coming around with this idea
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  Speaker 3: just it was trying to scratch a lot of those itches,
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  Speaker 3: just to like in a limited format, to be able
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  Speaker 3: to have ways to have a different way of playing
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  Speaker 3: some keyboards.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how how long did you work on this? Because
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  Speaker 1: I know i'd I had tried to come up with
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  Speaker 1: some ideas and then like at a certain point, I
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  Speaker 1: was just like, I give up. I'm just walking away
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  Speaker 1: from ever touching this ever again.
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  Speaker 3: So I've probably been working on it for about six
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  Speaker 3: months in one form or another. I got to see
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  Speaker 3: people playing, people talking about cube drafting, and I got
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  Speaker 3: to experience it myself with Panics Cube, which is pretty
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  Speaker 3: awesome if you ever get the chance to be able
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  Speaker 3: to go and play it. He's put together a really
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  Speaker 3: fun experience. His cube is obviously a cur rated cube
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  Speaker 3: that you're going to choose a number of how you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna choose one house to stick in the mix, and
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  Speaker 3: then you're gonna get a whole bunch of cards from
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  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of different sets. And when I got
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  Speaker 3: to play that, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this this this is something you know, this is something here.
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  Speaker 3: I have played cube before, way back when, but it
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  Speaker 3: had been a long time since I had ventured down
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  Speaker 3: the cube rout or even tried to put one together.
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  Speaker 3: And I know there are a couple of them floating around,
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  Speaker 3: but I really feel like once Alliance got people thinking
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  Speaker 3: about crafting stuff, that that kind of rejuvenated the desire
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  Speaker 3: to have something like a cube. So but then I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to do something a little different, and I said, well,
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  Speaker 3: what what are the options here? What's what's one of
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  Speaker 3: the things that I would like to see in an option?
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  Speaker 3: And I always loved like traditional drafting of games. We
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  Speaker 3: used to play a lot of obviously Magic way back
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  Speaker 3: in the day, way way way back in the day,
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  Speaker 3: but things like Star Wars Destiny we would draft all
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  Speaker 3: the time, and we always had a blast with it
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  Speaker 3: because it kind of scratches a little bit of the
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  Speaker 3: deck building and the craft scratches a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: the sealed aspect of it. So that was the impetus
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  Speaker 3: behind creating the pack draft, and I really wanted to
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  Speaker 3: kind of make something new for people to get excited about,
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  Speaker 3: and especialty in conjunction with the side of it action
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  Speaker 3: that was that really kind of pushed it along. I
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  Speaker 3: had been kind of pushing it in the tooling with
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  Speaker 3: it in the background, did a couple of test drafts,
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  Speaker 3: and then once I was made aware of the fact
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  Speaker 3: that there was going to be side events, I went
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  Speaker 3: went hole boor for it.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, I guess my biggest question for the
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  Speaker 1: draft aspect of it was obviously right now it's all
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  Speaker 1: draconian measures, is that that's pretty much what you're drafting.
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  Speaker 1: But when it comes down to it, how okay? So
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  Speaker 1: the biggest question mark I had was how you know
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  Speaker 1: cause you get and I guess I didn't understand it
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  Speaker 1: going in either, was you you picked three houses? So
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  Speaker 1: I started for I'm sorry, you know, when we started,
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  Speaker 1: You're like, write four houses down, and I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to write four houses down. And my understanding
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  Speaker 1: was these are the houses I want? And then do
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  Speaker 1: you you put players in with what similar wants? When
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  Speaker 1: you created.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so uh when so for the drac chronic measures,
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  Speaker 3: there's tube over over arcing like group of pack draft packs. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: there is enough I have created curated enough to allow
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  Speaker 3: for sixty four players to be able to play simultaneously,
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  Speaker 3: each choosing the exact same four houses. So basically I
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  Speaker 3: have sixty four packs of every single house. Each one
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  Speaker 3: of those packs is fifteen cards and includes anywhere from
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  Speaker 3: so like the way that inside those packs, I what
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  Speaker 3: I The first thing I do is I thill out
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  Speaker 3: all the procedurally generated cards and I make sure that
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  Speaker 3: they are pair with the ones that normally come with
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  Speaker 3: procedurally generated so that you're getting very similar to experience
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  Speaker 3: had you opened a deck. And also I just want
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  Speaker 3: to make sure that there's that synergy of being able
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  Speaker 3: to get oh I have a subtle chain and a
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  Speaker 3: chain gang. You know. I want to make sure that
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  Speaker 3: that is that's in your options to do that. So
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  Speaker 3: when you come, you pick four houses, and it can
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  Speaker 3: be any of the houses in that set, and so
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  Speaker 3: there's fifteen cards of each house. That is what you
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  Speaker 3: are contributing to the draft pool, and everybody around the table,
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  Speaker 3: whether it's four or eight players, you can do it.
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  Speaker 3: With six as well, So any even number is the
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  Speaker 3: best way to do it. You're going to basically take
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  Speaker 3: all those things. You're going to take all those packs,
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  Speaker 3: and they're going to go into that draft pool. The
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  Speaker 3: drafting is done, as you remember, in two rounds. There's
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  Speaker 3: an A round in a B round. I take two
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  Speaker 3: of your packs every single player, and then I mix
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  Speaker 3: them all up. Not mix them all, I just basically
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  Speaker 3: deal them all out to a number of players. So
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  Speaker 3: I'll go and if there's eight players, I'll just go
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  Speaker 3: right down the line. I'll go one, two, three, four, five, six,
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  Speaker 3: seven eight, one two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
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  Speaker 3: until I have gone through all of the sixteen packs
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  Speaker 3: that have been put in the first round. So what
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  Speaker 3: that leaves you with is eight what I call draft sets.
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  Speaker 3: In a draft set is what you're going to actually
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  Speaker 3: pick up and start drafting with. So there's one for
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  Speaker 3: every player in each of the A round and the
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  Speaker 3: B round. And so when you're done of the A round,
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  Speaker 3: you will have thirty cards, and when you're done with
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  Speaker 3: the B round, you will have an additional thirty cards.
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  Speaker 3: And each player has contributed two of their house packs
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  Speaker 3: to each of them, so one of the other things
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  Speaker 3: that we as you remember, I told everybody what are
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  Speaker 3: the Basically I told you what houses are in each
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  Speaker 3: of the pools.
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  Speaker 1: I believe because how many cards of each house were
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  Speaker 1: in each pack, or.
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  Speaker 3: Well how many house packs or in each one. So
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  Speaker 3: basically it's however many packs of fifteen cards? So if
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  Speaker 3: I told you there's three, you knew that there was
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  Speaker 3: going to be forty five cards of Skyboard in that
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  Speaker 3: particular house. And what that really makes is that it
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  Speaker 3: makes a very cohesive and interesting draft mechanical. It took
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  Speaker 3: me a long time to get to that number, because
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  Speaker 3: if you are familiar with draft hate, drafting is a thing,
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  Speaker 3: and it should be it should be part of it.
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  Speaker 3: It's I'm making a sacrifice of choosing a card that
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  Speaker 3: I might want in order to make sure that the
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  Speaker 3: redline rotation that just got passed to me does not
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  Speaker 3: get passed to the person next to me, who I
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  Speaker 3: think is collecting sky one. Even though I'm not see
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  Speaker 3: it again, you never have to see it again, and
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  Speaker 3: there's a beauty in that. It's like sometimes you sit
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  Speaker 3: there and go, okay, which is better, you know, taking
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  Speaker 3: something from someone who is going to put it to
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  Speaker 3: really good use and you might get a mediocre card
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  Speaker 3: or an okay card, or do you just stick with
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  Speaker 3: it and go there's a better card. And that's part
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  Speaker 3: of the interesting thing about draft is Draft is a
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  Speaker 3: lot of choices and his choices in the moment, and
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  Speaker 3: you don't really know until every single one of the
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  Speaker 3: packs has got around to you. Like kind of what's
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  Speaker 3: in the thing, the fact that the procedure really generated
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  Speaker 3: cards are in it as like, so if you see
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  Speaker 3: one half of a gigantic or the fetch card for
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  Speaker 3: a Gigantic, you are absolutely going to see the other
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  Speaker 3: two parts in there. They're somewhere. They may never get
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  Speaker 3: pass to you, but there's somewhere in there, so if
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  Speaker 3: you want to try and reunite that synergy. And that's
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  Speaker 3: also when you get handed your draft set. So it's
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  Speaker 3: thirty cards in the first piece, you get to pick
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  Speaker 3: it up. Everybody picks u it up. First round. You're
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  Speaker 3: going to pass to the left. But before you pass
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  Speaker 3: the left, you're choosing not one card. Like a lot
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  Speaker 3: of standard drafts alike magic pack draft, you crack open
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  Speaker 3: a boost pack, most of the time you're just taking
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  Speaker 3: one card. You're passing passing the pack on this one
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  Speaker 3: in an effort to give you some more agency. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: you pick three cards, and so by picking three cards,
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  Speaker 3: if two halves of a gigantic er in there, you
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  Speaker 3: can get them. And they may they may end up
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  Speaker 3: being that way based on the way that I built
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  Speaker 3: the draft sets. So uh. But yeah, so like when
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  Speaker 3: I took when you guys showed out at Saint Louis,
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  Speaker 3: I took everybody that was there, took all those packs, uh,
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  Speaker 3: and I had packs pre made ready to go for
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  Speaker 3: all of those things. I combined them up, I dealt
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  Speaker 3: them out, and then I gave them to your pack
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  Speaker 3: leader or your pod leader, and you guys went about
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  Speaker 3: your merry way drafting. Once you get done with the
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  Speaker 3: first set, you're gonna pick up the second set, and
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  Speaker 3: this time you're passing the opposite torection. So when you're done,
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  Speaker 3: you've got sixty cards in your pool that you can
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  Speaker 3: build from, and you have to build a normal thirty
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  Speaker 3: six card deck. Same house rules apply. You obviously have
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  Speaker 3: to have three different houses, and you have to have
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  Speaker 3: twelve cards of every house. If you do not get
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  Speaker 3: twelve cards of a house, say you you you know
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  Speaker 3: you took a risk and you went for something that
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  Speaker 3: didn't necessarily have a whole lot of house packs put
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  Speaker 3: into it. So you know, maybe only three house packs
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  Speaker 3: got put into it. So there's forty five cards amongst
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  Speaker 3: eight players of that house, and if maybe one or
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  Speaker 3: two people are drafting it, you're going to run into
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  Speaker 3: a problem. Or maybe you only got eleven cards or
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  Speaker 3: maybe ten cards. But if you got some really good,
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  Speaker 3: strong cards, you can still elect to play that house,
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  Speaker 3: except you insert a bozo cards what.
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  Speaker 1: I call them episode honey boo boo cards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, something like that. I don't remember what you called them,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, the pozo card. So, and what all that
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  Speaker 3: is is it's a yellow plane card that has your
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  Speaker 3: house on it, and it basically says that it is.
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  Speaker 3: It's a part of that house that does nothing. You
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  Speaker 3: can't play it. It doesn't have no amber on it
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  Speaker 3: has nothing. All you do is have the ability to
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  Speaker 3: discard it. And that's your penalty for not drafting them. So,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, if you get like eleven cards that
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  Speaker 3: are just amazing, you can still choose to go that end.
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  Speaker 3: In a lot of the drafts that I've done, it
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  Speaker 3: has happened that way. And that's part of the reason
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  Speaker 3: why we started doing the at the beginning, telling everybody
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  Speaker 3: how many of every house is in there, because the
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  Speaker 3: first couple of drafts that we didn't do that, there
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  Speaker 3: is a whole lot of Ozo cards going around. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now my biggest question is are the packs the same
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  Speaker 1: every time? Like they are in a so they're they're randomized.
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  Speaker 3: They are randomized. So when I so I bring, I
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  Speaker 3: bring five two hundred cards every time I run one
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  Speaker 3: of these things. And when I'm done, whatever we use,
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  Speaker 3: I take back and I reapply the algorithm to them.
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  Speaker 3: I pull out all the dynamically generated things I make
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  Speaker 3: the house packs, and a house pack they are variable,
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  Speaker 3: so you can have anywhere from a minimum of five
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  Speaker 3: creatures to a maximum of ten creatures in a deck
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  Speaker 3: and the rest of it being artifacts, upgrades and actions.
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  Speaker 1: So so yeah, that was the question because I know
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  Speaker 1: what I pulled. I know, well, I know what Devin
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  Speaker 1: pulled first strong because he told me He's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got two old watcherus and I forget what Elsie said.
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  Speaker 1: It was double old Sweat and something else and prepsterar
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  Speaker 1: raise yeah, and it was praise.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh God, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Remember looking at my like second can pack and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: three open the seals. Huh. I was like, are these
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  Speaker 1: supposed to?
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  Speaker 3: Like?
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  Speaker 1: This feels like cheating now, Like I don't feel.
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  Speaker 3: Like there betributed it And ideally is it possible Is
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  Speaker 3: it likely that that's going to happen? No, it's not.
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  Speaker 3: You know, somebody asked me, they said, well, oh do
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  Speaker 3: you what can you? Can you share the pack lists
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  Speaker 3: with them? I'm like no, because the Arno pack, every
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  Speaker 3: time I rebuild the set, it's rebuilt in a way
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  Speaker 3: that makes it completely different from the last time. Because
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  Speaker 3: I want them to be debility. And there's also the
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  Speaker 3: concept of like if this this, if if you know,
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  Speaker 3: we go somewhere with this and something is it's very
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  Speaker 3: successful and people enjoy it. I want people. I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to design it in a way that you're not just
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  Speaker 3: having these cards that are dead cards. You can repack
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  Speaker 3: them and do it again and do something different.
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  Speaker 2: So for house Pips, that was just a natural occurrence
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  Speaker 2: of house pips in what we saw in Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 3: So remember so like house pips the inside those cards
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  Speaker 3: that are in there. The first thing I do when
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  Speaker 3: I get a gigantic thing of cards. Is the first
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  Speaker 3: thing I do is I go through and pull out
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  Speaker 3: every single card that is enhanced naturally that the out
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  Speaker 3: that the deck put on there. And the reason for
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  Speaker 3: that is how we handle enhancements. What has everybody wanted
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  Speaker 3: to do ever since enhancements came out? Figure out where
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  Speaker 3: they exactly, And so in my version of pack draft,
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  Speaker 3: you get the opportunity to do that. So, uh, you
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  Speaker 3: get to go in and if you draft cards that
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  Speaker 3: have the enhancement keyword on it and a certain number
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  Speaker 3: of enhanced pips, you get the opportunity to place those
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  Speaker 3: on your car cards at a later point when you're
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  Speaker 3: doing your deck building. Now, mind you, you only get
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  Speaker 3: to place the ones that are inside your deck. So
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  Speaker 3: if you draft a card that has you know, you
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  Speaker 3: draft to open the seal and it does not make
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  Speaker 3: it into your deck, then you do not get the
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  Speaker 3: housepit the enhancement pips for it. If you do put
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  Speaker 3: it in your deck. Though, every one of the cards
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  Speaker 3: is interior sleeved, so they got an inner sleeve on them.
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  Speaker 3: And you come over to me or whoever is doing
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  Speaker 3: the administration, and you show me all of the enhancements
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  Speaker 3: that are going into your deck, and then I will
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  Speaker 3: give you interior sleeves that already have stickers attached to
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  Speaker 3: them that show you exactly what enhancements you get. Now
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  Speaker 3: you can place those on any card that you like,
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  Speaker 3: with the exception that you can only have one additional
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  Speaker 3: pip unless you draft more than thirty six enhancements. It
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  Speaker 3: has not happened yet, I am sure that someone will
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  Speaker 3: do it in the future, and I have allowances for that.
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  Speaker 3: And so I have stickers that are already placed on
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  Speaker 3: the same brand of interior sleeves for all of the
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  Speaker 3: different types, including all of the house pips for it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's kind of a little bit where the I
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  Speaker 3: guess investment that I made into this is I may
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  Speaker 3: or may not have bought a DI sublimination sticker printer
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  Speaker 3: for the specific purpose of making stupid little things that
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  Speaker 3: go on stupid little pieces of plastic. So yeah, so
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  Speaker 3: I actually have all the capabilities of being able to
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  Speaker 3: make tiny little pips that are all the houses I
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  Speaker 3: even I've made vector drawings of them all and I
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  Speaker 3: can utilize those to make all of the things that
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  Speaker 3: I need. I even made things for the future. So
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  Speaker 3: there's like if we decide to go crazy and put
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  Speaker 3: key rack In in there. I also made key rack In
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  Speaker 3: and I also made the Darkness case we ever wanted
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  Speaker 3: to to venture down those dark, dark drafting paths.
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  Speaker 1: I I say, let's go crazy. I mean this was
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  Speaker 1: I I had so much fun. I know a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people were kind of hesitant and didn't really know,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't you walk steud He had fun,
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  Speaker 1: and but he had talked about like, well, you know
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  Speaker 1: certain people and certain pods had I know his big
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  Speaker 1: thing is I know one of his pods, Like I
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  Speaker 1: think one of your locals was in there with him
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  Speaker 1: that had done some play testing with you. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: let's just that's draft in general, right, Like yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: I I have you you have experience. I have experience
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  Speaker 1: with drafting magic, right and we all remember drafting that
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  Speaker 1: back in the day, So like, yes, I have we
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: have a lot of experience in draft. I was like,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it just so happens. Yes, you got somebody who runs
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: a YouTube channel that talks very often about draft like
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: It was a it was a bad Fields moment for
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you unfortunately.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: But like that's well not a norm as the as
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: the designated Wookie. I'm sorry you walk this episode. I
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: do feel like I need to step in here because
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you're really dragging him through the mud a little bit.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: But I'm not dragging through them.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: It was one thing he was upset about, and it's
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: just one of those things where I was.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Like, I choose to read his take on it as
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: we were glad that Shadow Meltal was there. He ensured
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: that everything ran smoothly and we're lucky to have him
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: now he won the pod, But there you go. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: think so one thing he walked talked about on the
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: ride home was that. And I think on the last
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: episode is we took a small poll of the players
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: in our pod, and only six of us wanted Shadow
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: to appear, Shadows to appear.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I did not.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And yet on the list of pods, packs, pods, pods,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: among the packs, shadows appeared seven times. How might that be.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: That can happen? So in that particular one, I so,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: in an effort to make timing faster, I did pre
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: build one of the pods and that pod was paired
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: with the people. And if you went through that list,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: there was one extra shadows in that one and one
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: less unfathomable if think, Okay, so I did rebuild that,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: and that is why that would happen. And the reason
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: why is that I don't know. I never know how
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: many players are gonna come. I always hope for hi,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: you know. And we had twenty four in Saint Louis
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: and we had thirty in Fortland, and the same kind
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: of thing happened where I got once I got past
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: the first two packs of building them. It takes a
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: lot of time. It takes time, and I don't want
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: you guys having to sit there and wait, but I
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: still want to give you the agency to be able
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: to choose your houses for it. So in the great future,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: if you know, I had to say, in something, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: would love to see the ability for like four player
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: or eight player draft acts to be available. And in
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: those types of things, most likely, obviously you're not going
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: to be able to choose all of your houses in
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: those and so that is you would get a pre
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: made set of things. Good, which is I mean, it's
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: that's actually more akin to what you would see in
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: a regular draft. And another thing, because you're just gonna
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: get Randall cards in those ye, whereas this one my
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: goal was always to try and give you as much
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: agency as possible, and I didn't honestly think that you
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: guys would figure that out.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: So cood, well, it's it's ac so or there's always
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: going to be a sharp buy for things to criticize.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Right, Oh that's what it called.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the people don't always know what they want, right.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: For example, I didn't include shadows, but the shadows pot
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: I got was fantastic and I definitely rolled with it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So I thank you for giving us more shadows than
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: we wanted. We were wrong. And then as long as
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: we're on the ewok questions because I want to represent
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: them here. The other thing he talked about was in
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the early rounds, this idea of maybe going choosing one
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: card at a time for a limited number of times
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: you're handed cards, right like, maybe ramp up to three,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: just choose one, choose two, and then it's three the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: rest of the way. Are these ideas that you've played
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: with along the way?
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, I have. And if you don't do the three
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: and I will credit a Panic for this one, because
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: in his draft he does in his cube, he does three.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: And I had been doing testing with singles up until
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: that point, and when I played that, I was like, oh,
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: you know, this feels a lot better because there's especially
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: with eight players, the chances of two really good cards
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: making it all the way back around to you is impossible.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And with the amount of the amount of procedurally generated
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: stuff we have in key Forge, I would have had
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: to pretty much no one would ever get a gigantic.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: The chances of you getting you know, two routine jobs
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: if they showed up in the same pack, would be
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: next to nothing because it would never get back around
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: to you, even if somebody is just hate drafting it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: And so I felt like it was a really good mix.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: And the decks that came out of the next testing
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: after I went after I went to three and I
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: did it with one, two, and three. When I went
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: through the ones that were three, the quality of the
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: decks that came out of him was much higher.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: So that was the reason I ended up going with
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: that makes sense, and it's a lot it's just efficient
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: to have every every selection the same thing, and everybody
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: acknowledged that as we were talking about these things on
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the way down. Wookie wasn't because he was a sleep
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: ten minutes another car ride, but you walk and I
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: had a lot of good discussions about this stuff.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's interesting because it's like, you know, when
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: you when you're I find when you're drafting with one card,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: one of one of the things, as anybody who's drafted
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: a lot probably knows, is that you have one person
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: who's really good at assessing a set of cards. They
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: pull their cards out, they put it down, they push
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: the pack to the next person, and eventually there's whoever
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: the poor, less than efficient person is. They'll end up
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: with three or four packs behind them. And what that
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: ends up doing is it just makes a it makes
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: an opportunity to happen where things get out of sync.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: And and that's why I always tell people, I said,
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: if you see the person next to you already has
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: one waiting for them, do not pass them another room.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And the I found that the picking three required enough
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: time that it didn't take dramatically longer to have somebody
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: pick three than it did to pick one if they
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: were having a harder time making choices, because it actually
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: just said like they actually were, like you know, sometimes
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: they would get to that point where they go, I've
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: got these two cards and I don't know which of
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: the two, Well, now I can get both, And it
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: actually sped up the whole draft a lot. And like
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: with eight people on average, it's going to be about
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: forty five to fifty minutes to draft, and if you
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: do it single, it actually trended over an hour. And
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: so it was just another It was like I felt
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: like the more agency plus the reduced amount of time
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: was the golden answer right there.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, one thing I know we did in our
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Pod two was at a certain point, like after two
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: or three cards, were like, you should have X amount
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: of cards available to you in the pack you're looking at,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: because it turns out.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Usually usually what I tell people is I say, if
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: you're waiting to pass the pack to the next person,
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: count your cards.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because there was one time where I had only
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: selected two and I was like, oh, yeah, I did
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: only because there's only two good ones in here. I
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: don't want any of these, but I gotta take a third.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: So you guys, when you guys drafted, when you got
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: to the second pack, did any of you guys switch houses,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: switch what you're going for? How I feel?
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I think I I don't think I really switched houses,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: but at a certain point, I'm like, oh, just kind
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: of seeing what was coming to me out of round one,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: I was like, I kind of think I have an
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: idea what the person next to me is going for.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: So unfortunately, at that point, I was like, well, I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: can't pass you this, Like there's just no way, Like
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not going to pass you a permanent record.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: That's just silly, right, Like that doesn't So I started
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: kind of hate drafting at that point.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: I really wanted to have sixty cards. When you have
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: sixty cards, it gives you enough that hate drafting is
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: a is a plausible thing without totally hamstringing yourself.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Well, pack one I was trying to go into shadows,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: and I was I was on track with shadows in
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: in pack one, right, I was like, all right, yep,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty well distributed. You know, I got some
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: duds in here. But that's kind of draft, right, Like
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: those last three to six are usually just kind of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you know, you don't You're like, I don't really want them,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: but that's fine.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: The last three to six. If you get something that
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: goes into your deck, that's.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Just like Christmas, right, And but then all of a
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: sudden I'm like, you know, as I'm building, I'm like,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I don't have nearly enough shadows. Oh no, so I'm
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: not going shadows and I'm counting, and I'm like, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: just got handed a bunch of Obro's cards, which actually
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: just ended up being I have ten and that's I
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: only need to take to uh two Bozo cards if
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I take Oberos. Now, lucky for me, I did draft
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: enough discard pips where I never played Oberros.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: So it didn't matter started the whole thing.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I was playing two houses no matter what, So it
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: just ended up like I had enough where my deck
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: was built, and after building with where I wanted to go, like,
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I never had to go to a third house.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: So it was just like I've got enough dis card
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Like you can you can pull some some by crafting
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: your enhancements, which is my absolute favorite way to play draft.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: And that is why I wanted to do it this way,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: because I will I am, I will fully admit that
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: I'm one of those people that has always been like, man,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: that card only had that pip on it, right, And
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: but like the at Portland, we did a a Saturday
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: night like kind of pre draft as a pod and
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: they only had seven, so I jumped in and I
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: managed to draft a twenty eight capture pip.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Triple red train that too, but he didn't have the switcher.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: But I was like, twenty eight capture pips. My god,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: that game's gonna go forever.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Oh. I had twenty eight capture pips with uh three switcheroos,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: two Ditch the loots, and a Janeeri actually two of them,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: so I had lots of outs. I never didn't get
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: a crepuscular race. But you want to know the funny
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: thing about it was, I didn't win all my games,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: and one of the game that I lost was because
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: somebody drafted a ridiculous amount of not attacks, which is
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: an amazing card in draft, So uh, disc get and
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: turn over the top card of your opponent's deck if
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: it has a pip on it, they lose that much amber.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: And I was bleeding amber like you would not believe,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: and they managed to keep just cycling. I think they
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: had four or five not at taxes and it was.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: It was nasty but fun because it just shows you
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: that the beauty of the degenerate uh uh. You know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: multiples of commons in draft to be really good. One
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: of my favorites is colts Levin the It's an absolute
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: trash card in most most days, you know, you know,
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: most days are not going to be happy to see
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: this card sitting in your deck. But let me tell you,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: if you gets six of them anyway, a ridiculous amount
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: of plus uh counter enhancements, you now have a two
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: power card that when you play it, it melts the
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: other side, and that's a ton of fun. Yeah. Yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: I definitely started with three houses and wind up drafting
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: four houses basically because I got a catch release.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: Did you get four full twelve card houses? No?
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I got full three houses and then decided to abandon
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: one of those to go with a ten card house
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: because I drafted catching release early. So I went, you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: and Fatoma Will filled up that house and I was like,
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: I just I've been filling it with trash just to
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: get to twelve cards. Meanwhile, my geistoid pod, I've got
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Eco charge bar Gas Vengeance like old Switchero. I'm just
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: gonna roll with ten like it's good enough. It's got
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: enough good stuff in there.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: And that was great. You don't realize, like you realize
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: a little too late that there's just not going to
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: be very much of X house coming around, and you
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: end up having to pivot in the beginning of the
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: second round, and sometimes that works out better for you. Yeah.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we do need to talk about is
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: because we didn't really say it is you you only
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: allow one key sheet per neck.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, and you can thanks shadow Mill for that one probably.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Uh. He drafted in one of our test drafts. I
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: think you two key drains and three or four ecto
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: charges and the game I played against him, he did
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: not win, but all of his keys were forged with
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: with key sheets, and I was like, okay, uh yeah,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: that's that's that leads to I'm not a huge fan
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: of the one turn win, so that was part of
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: the reason why I also kind of felt like, you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: maybe we can limit it to one and see how
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: we go. And since then it's been pretty good.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: I thought we would talk about hit placement, but Wiki,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: you said you didn't get any enhancements at all? Is
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: that right?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: No?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I got tons of enhancements.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Oh you did, all right? Can I talk about my
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: favorite ones that I did? I got like three of them? Okay,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: So old Switchero with a capture Pip. It gets its
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: own capture Pip right on it. That's an obvious one, right,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: that's awesome. Finishing blow. I was able to get a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: clay more with some damage Pip, so I put one
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: down finishing blow again obvious. Throwing stars also gets a
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: damage Pip. Just break somebody down, so get that amber
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: you finish them off. Wonderful. One thing that shadow Meld
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: clued me in on not so subtly. As I was
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: finishing up the construction of where I'm going to put
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: my pips, was putting a power counter on Oh is
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: this take? I don't have the name of the card
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: in my photo here. I think it's either it's take
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: a break. So take a Break targets the weakest creature
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: in your opponent's battle line, so if you throw a
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: power counter on there, you can adjust the power of
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: your opponent's battle line. I was like, mind blown, Yeah,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: it's so fun.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: That is one of the things that felt like I
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: started building this, you know, the draconian measures vision of
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: this right when it was you know, is in its
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: infancy as having completed the successful game founding, we got
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: our stuff and we started putting all these things together,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: and because it was not a set that I digested
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: for years or in some cases, I felt like, man,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: drafting was an incredible way to learn a house. I mean,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: to learn a set. Yeah, you like, you see things
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: that you would never look at, You never give it
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: a second look at until you think, like you have
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: those big brain moments where you're like, oh, and now
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: when you start to look at new decks, when you're
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: going and playing sealed or you're looking you're just looking
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: at your existing decks, you see new ways of playing
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: your existing decks. And I love that. I love the
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: fact that draft is a great way to learn a
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: set and learn cards. Now, mind you, as you said before,
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: people who have a experience with draft and or have
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: a good set knowledge. I think that was one of
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: the things that you know, A couple people said after
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Portland was there, like I really enjoyed it, but I
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: felt like I was at a disadvantage because I just
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: don't know the cards as well. And I get that,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, I feel like it's a
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: great way to learn them because you're learning them in
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: a very different way than you do by playing in
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: our con deck, by building an alliance or even doing doing.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like that complaint is true in any draft,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: like no matter what game you're playing, like set knowledge
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and knowing where to go and what to do, like
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: is kind of that's any draft format that's not just
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: strictly uh a key forge thing.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Has there ever been something like the pit placement? I
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: feel like Magic might have had stickers at one point,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: but wasn't that a goofy offset like this.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Magic's never had the stickers really, like like like this
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: was even then. I mean I remember draftings. You know,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the ersa block and you know that that could be
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: an interesting thing in the future, right where like you're
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: mashing two sets together and that's that's a whole nother
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: ball of axe. Like you know, like you're Ers's block.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: You know, you had to know you had like the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: root Wallas and uh, the wild mongrels and all that,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: like that was the good Like you had to know
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: what the good stuff was when it came your way
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to be like, yep, I'm gonna take it, because I mean,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people back then were like
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: drafting for rares and it's like it's not really mainly
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the way you want to draft, right, you want a
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: draft good cards so that you win. So I mean
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it was what it was. I feel like that's no
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: matter what game you go into, if you're doing a
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: draft format, you need to have proper set knowledge. Now,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I mean I I did learn a couple of things
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: because like at the end, I'm like, I don't know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this last discard pip and I put
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: it on a what's the one you are?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Or no?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: You shuffle the top card of your discard pile and
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that card back into your deck. Always out of ideas,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I always forget the name of that card.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: A world champion. That is a world champion design.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: For always, I always forget it. But if you put
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: a discard pip on, it turns out you will be
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: putting back the cards you discarded. And I'm like, oh no,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: it's just.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Which can be great because it's like, you know, you
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: get that that that early uh amber control that you
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: want on turn five or six, and you're like, I
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: don't need a troller right now. I'm just gonna put
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: this lovely troller right back in my deck. Yeah.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: But I mean, is there plans for something like that
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: where you would, hey, we're going to add in maybe
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Ember Sky's those kind of cards. There's that like two
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: months right now. Let's just.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: I've thought about that type of thing. I mean, my
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: goal in once this year, and you know, I'm thankful
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: that that. Uh, I'm geting the opportunity to be able
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: to run this at the Vault Tours and give people
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: experiences with it and to just kind of test it
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: to see if this is something that Ghost Galaxy might
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: want to do in the future. You know, let's give
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: them an opportunity to.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Be able to have an those Galaxy do it in
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the future.
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, I had obliged. I mean, it's not the
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Wookie Wookie Seal of Approval.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, and which is hard hard to get.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: It is hard, it is. It is. I'd be like,
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: when do you ask me to come on here? You know,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: like I didn't know what to expect, but I was like,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you have to say about that.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I loved it. I was just like this scratched every
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: itch I wanted it to write like it was like
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I wanted the you know because after key Forge so long,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: you're kind of like I missed kind of the old
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: days of being able to put around with stuff from
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: time to time, you know, And I was like, this
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: gave me that ability and you know, the whole draft
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: experience of I'm literally setting up my deck. You know,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I guess the I know not everybody's in the building.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: But it's like it's like you said, that whole like
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: what if I did get that one that one pip
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: in the correct spot exactly?
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: And it it's you know, it basically can take the
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: people who love Alliance and love what that offers and
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: give them an opportunity to get even more granular if
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: they want to. But also, just like you said, part
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: of it is the experience of the draft. It's a
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: like for me at least, I'm not sure it is
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: for everybody, but for me at least, the draft part
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: of the draft is the fun. That's like part of
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: the fun of like, ooh, like I got this card,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: am I gonna get something? Am I gonna get the
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: other thing that I want to like to synergize with this?
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: And when you get it, it's like, you know, uh
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Manna from heaven. It's it's it's pretty awesome and uh so,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: and those moments of it was like everybody loves cracking
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: a packet a fresh pack at KeyForge, you know you
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: love opening that deck and like draft is kind of
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: like getting past ten packs, you know, in a row
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: in a row, and so it's like I just opened
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: the entire entire box of boosters.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: And then being able to throw away the all the
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: ones you don't want right, like, oh, these are all garbage,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: but these three are fine. I'll take these.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: I do like though, and like the whole Cold sweven
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: thing that happened to me because I ended up get
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: drafting in one of my test drafts. Uh I draft.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I think it was like three routine jobs and two
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: something else that were good, and I'm like, I can't
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: not use these things. But the only thing I could
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: get because Shadows was a deficient house in that was
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: these Cold Swevens. And so I'm like, wow, I'm better
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: put that in there, and I'd rather have that in
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: there than nothing. And that turned out to be one
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: of those moments where I was like, oh, oh this
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: is this does not actually right. And those moments are
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: awesome too, because you get those aha moments that teach
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: you a little bit more about key Forge. My lovely
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: lady she hates when I play crashing New decks, and well,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: because we oftentimes will go out to dinner and we'll
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: bring decks. We actually are known of a lot of
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: the restaurants around us for the people who play card
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: games at dinner. But if I ever go like, I'll
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: be sitting looking at a hand and I'll go, oh,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: she goes, oh gosh, dart it. He's done it and
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: he's found something else that he's never found before, and
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: now I get to experience it firsthand.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just, like I said, I was huge,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Like I didn't know how it would turn out, and
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, boy, like is this just gonna be
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: like craziness? And I was like, Okay, Nope, it actually
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: did everything I wanted it to do. Ghost Galaxy, How
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: do I give you money for this? I'm not sure how,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: but please I will give you money. Make this a thing.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Please put that. I mean putting that in the local stories,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I think, and I only that, you know, just a
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: lot of people are who even I remember when I
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: first kind of came back to gaming all those years ago,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Key Ford was just coming out, but I was still
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I went back to magic because I was somebody just
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: like we're doing a draft. I'm like I remember draft
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Draft was a lot of fun. I kind of know
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: how to play Magic, and I feel like a lot
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: of people know how to play key Forge and like, oh,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I'll draft it and it's kind of that proverbial crack rock, right,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: the first one's always free, and then before you know it,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you're back doing it again, right, And that's that's what
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: got me into Magic again. And then I found key
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Forge because it was like, oh, this is the thing
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: that's happening and this I think it was the release
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: event and I'm like, I'll give it a shot and
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I'm still here, so.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: And I think that's what I kind of hope is that,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: you know, as we can continue to grow locals or
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: get a little bit more traction on local levels, if
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: there's a way for you know, if there's a way
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: for us to have something, whether it's either a home
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: grown format like this that is accessible to everybody, or
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: it's an actual product, it is something that people can
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: get around and use this familiar methodology to entrance people
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: into playing key Forge. Because I don't know about you guys,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: whenever we get somebody to sit down and play a
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: game of key Forge that is not a key Forge
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: player nine times out of ten they said, oh that
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: was fun. Yeah, And I think draft could be one
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: of those ways that people could do that, you know,
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: if people are into drafting those types of things. So
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: you know, it's really kind of depends on who you
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: have around you, but I mean, I definitely think that
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: is a potential option. I hope it is, because I'm
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: always looking for ways to help people grow their local communities.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think a lot of a lot
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: of bringing new players in is often also very old players.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: And with alternative formats, one of the big draws is
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: that you get to use those old piles you have
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: of old cards that are kind of falling out of
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: the meta. How might you envision players using their piles
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: of cards in draft? Like, how could they maybe make
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: their own or maybe that's a product that incorporates them
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Somehow have you thought about how that might work?
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, like just in the very format of
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: making this, I've thought about how to get be able
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: to how to enable people to be able to do that.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: And so my hope is that you know, the biggest,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: the biggest I guess roadblocks are just having enough cards
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: to be able to do enough for if you want
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: to have a large event, you know, but if you
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: go back and like I think everybody who has ever
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: played key Ford for anymal o the time has certainly
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: has enough age of ascension to be able to make
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: very sizable, yea very sizable amount of packs for pack draft.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: At some point in the future, I will I will
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: probably post the secret sauce on how I make the things,
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: and that way it can be out there for people
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: to be able to understand. If they want to take it,
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: take their old decks and start making packs and doing things,
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: they can do that as well.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Because the one thing I know I talked to you
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: at Saint Louis about it. I would love to see
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: this on like a store shelf. We all grab two
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: of them and then just go, you know, jam them
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: all together and do a draft. But the one thing
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: is is like there needs to be something like that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I don't want to just blow thirty dollars and then
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I just have a pile of cards, right like I
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: want I want to do something with them afterwards.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: If I can jump in at the tail your question,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I representing people who aren't here. I'm going to represent Wookie,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: who is here. Wookie's concerned primarily with all things is
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: tournament legality. If there were to be a product, how
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: do we not just have it sit on a shelf
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: somewhere after we do it a couple of times.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: So the goal there would be, obviously you can remake
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: it into two draft packs if you would like to
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: be able to do so, or make your old decks
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: in the draft packs if you want to do that
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: as well. But the goal that I would love to
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: see in the future is that pack draft does not
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: exist in its own isolated world. It works along with
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: tube drafting, so that you could then have two formats
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: that would both feed into I mean in a world
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: that I would love to play, I would love to
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: see like there'd be a world championship for drafting and
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: you have to do both. You have to there's a
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: cube that is a an authorized cube that you could
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: go and get printed and or make yourself, and that
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: whenever you go to a cube draft, that's what's going
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: to get plopped on the table, is that that you know,
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: everybody's going to choose a house and you're going to
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: go into it. And the goal there would be that
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: after you pack draft, you can then utilize those cards
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: in it to make your own cube.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: My thought, Pete, I'll represent well, yes, sir, okay, please,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I'll represent myself. My thought was like you do something
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: with See I've talked about this so many times before.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just that this horse has also
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: just beaten to death. Yeah I'm gonna beat it some more.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Is you put special printings and some of the packs.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's not all of them, but and maybe it's
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: just a choice select a few cards and I can
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: pimp out my decks with them, right, I know, we
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: we've talked about this so many times, and you're talking
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: about like swapping out like let me swap out a
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: car card for card, right, Like I just I still
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: to this date don't understand the like the hesitation there
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: is still like it's like but like I have faith
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: in Marcus and dead sinc and g that when they
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: are going through my deck on a deck check, even
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: if too much protect or Abissel site or whatever whatever
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: card you know in here somewhere, even if it has
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: a different printing, a different picture, maybe it's a foil
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: and it's not that there will still be able to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: analyze the deck list and go Yep, there are four
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: in the deck and you also have four in the deck. Perfect,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and like that's the end of it, right, Like you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: just again, for a company that talks so much about agency,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: that's the one agency they're unwilling to give up. It's like,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I don't get it, Like we have intelligent, intelligent people here.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll figure it out. Like I'm I have
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: full faith that they'll figure it out.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: I Mean, all I can say under that one is
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I had to try and using the contact us like
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: on the GG website.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: No, I normally just go to the meet the ghosties
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: and bitch there.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: So the challenge, what's that? So you're saying you're up
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: for the challenge if ever such a system were to
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: come on, I.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Can either confirm or deny that factor.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, It's just it's yeah, it's just I
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: think giving players that agency of being able to do that,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: like would really really go a long way with a
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: lot of players.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, like, here's the thing, if if if there
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: is enough players that that let us Galaxy know that
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: they wanted something, I have no doubt that they would
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: would listen to it and try and figure out how
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: they can make the game fit as many people as they.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Can, but that's really just like because they have to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: understand that, right, And that's not only that, like it
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: seems like such a cheap, inefficient or cheap efficient way
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: of making like sweet happy locals, not just Wookie happy.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: But we we often talk about the risk reward, right
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: because we understand the monetary limits to the to the
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: degree and just making it so it's like that seems
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: like such a cheap way to get people to come back, Like, Hey,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: get this sweet whatever card right at your locals, right,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: and maybe it's a special treatment, maybe it's a special foil,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: maybe it's a special this, a special that, and you're
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: just able to swap that out into your favorite decks.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: But even then, it's just there's still people out there.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: I think you could do that even with if draft
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Cube and draft pack became a thing, right, you can
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: you can certainly do that as a your pimp out
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: your cube and which is still kind of cool in
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: its own ley. Maybe not as cool as what you're
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: the other thing you're talking about, but you know it's
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: at least something.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, she still collects foil, and I mean he's
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: stopped now, but like when when the original Foils came out,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: he's like, I'm going to collect them all. There are
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: still people who will collect cool things.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: But we have collectors sets. People love the collector sets,
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: you know, just to be able to look at the
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: cards and enjoy the cards. So yeah, absolutely. But some
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: of the stuff that Ghost Galaxy has come out with,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: and like in the last couple of things, for like
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: blinged out cards, some of them are just downright gorgeous.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: The one that is the least valuable is actually I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: think one of the best looking. It's that bird. I
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: can't remember what he does Malforge. Yeah, like it's a
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: great looking card and looks awesome and foil. Yeah, but
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you know he ain't gonna see no play. But you
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: must be thinking of the other bird. There's two birds.
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, mouth Boards is actually pretty good.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Melthforge is a monster.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Blood wein I think looks great in foil, Like it's
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: just everything about it looks amazing and foil you'll you'll
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: never play it. But it's like I might go grab
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: one of those to shove into a binder or something,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: just you know, show up.
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: And one of the things that's also interesting about getting
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: back to the draft concept is like every key forge
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: deck has creatures in it, and especially with draconic measures
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: and overwhelmed effects, there is a viable place in this
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: for a almost zero creature deck if you can make it.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: You can in that you can actually make a you know,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: a zero creature deck if you can get the things too,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: if there's no limitations on that. And so I'm interested
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: to see how people do that.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: We got very close, very close.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Did you do you like? Do you felt like it
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: was a viable a bible strategy in the comic measures?
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I went to and one, So I mean yeah, I
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: mean my my first goal was number one. Obviously, if
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: it's got pips on it, I want it. You know,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: if it's got umber pips, I want it. And then
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: if it has enhancement pips, I also want that.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Did you go?
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: What houses? Did you go?
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I ended up going Geistoid? What did I have? I
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: had Geistoid fish Oberos.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Okay. I'm kind of surprised that you didn't go the
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Equaedon route because.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: I tried to go to the Aquadon route, but there
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: was a right who is also going aquad So I
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: tried hard. I tried real hard mutually assured destruction, right,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I'm like, man, we
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: had seven packs of Shadows. How did I only get
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: six cards out of out of six, I only got
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: six Shadows cards. And then I find out two of
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: the players were like, yeah, I was hate drafting Shadows.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I just drafted all the shadows so they have to
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: play against it. And I was like, you bums, both shadows,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: and so I ended up with like, you know, again
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: your cult Celevens of the World, and I was like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: this did not go the way I had originally planned.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: So I ended up in oberost because that's two packs,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: you know, two packs in a row. I had six,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: and then I drafted a couple because they were the
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: best options in the pack. Because I did, there was
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: nothing left for me. So I was like, all right,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: But like I said, my I ended up just playing
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Fish and Geistoid pretty much because I had so many
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: discard pips.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so many discard pips. That is some of the things.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: So did you guys see anything like I love seeing
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: the completely like like dex that are just kind of
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: they do a thing and they do it really well,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: you know, like I did it, Like I said, a
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: twenty three capture Pip deck one of the eyes in
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: uh uh Portland had I think probably one of my
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: favorite decks I've seen come out of it. They got ah,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I think it was two chain gangs and six some shots. Oh.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: But again it got better because they got the Chevelle
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: de Friese, the one that the rare card, the one
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: of the very few cards that gives you shadows pips
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: because remember house pips, baby, that's that's that's where it's at,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: and and draconic measures that's only in obviously rare form
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: only the only happens of rare so it's not nearly
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: as many as there were in like Skies, but he
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: got one of those, and he also managed to get
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: Martian propagation, and so his deck all it did was
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: it got a whole bunch of creatures out and then
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: blew them all up with Martian propagation on a shadows turn.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: And then all it did for the rest because normally
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: he could get enough because you know, inter conic measures
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: board wipes are a premium. They're like something that you
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: gotta gotta try and find, right, and his players were
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: not getting the board wipes, and he got to the
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: point where he had his entire deck in his hand,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: and all he did every turn was chain gain, chain
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: gangs and subtle, chain subtle, chain steal, steals, chain gang,
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: chain gang, subtle gang subtle, and then and then as
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: soon as he was out, he would martian propagation the
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: two chain gangs and draw them all back again. And
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: so from the beginning of the next turn, you had
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: nothing left in your hand, You had no amber left,
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: and that you weren't going to have it for the
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: rest of the turn. It was a lock. It was
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: a chain gang lock condition because of that house pit,
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: and he pulled it off. He pulled He got lock
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: in two out of his three games. And I was like,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: that is the kind of stuff that I love seeing,
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: because one thing I will say about key Forge players
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: is because they can't like, you know, craft everything, Like
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: they really go out of their way to find crazy
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: stuff and crazy new ways of playing this game. And
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: I was like, that is a beautiful war crime right there.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I was the only thing I saw that was really
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know how that game is
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: going to go red Train. I think got twenty eight capture.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Pips yeah, yeah, now, and everybody and everybody in Hobo's
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: pod was going, I'm not seeing Annie Annie's stinking pips?
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Where are they? And it sounded like you and the
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: training with the ones popping them all up. Nobody else
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: was getting Yeah.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I mean if I if I saw pips on a
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: card and enhancement pips.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: They were going up the mine.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, those, I was like, don't pass me, none of those,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: because they're going to my pile. And then finally I
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: found the house. I found the guys started house pips
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: and I was like, that's also mine. Oh yeah, And
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I remember I was like, you don't want to pass
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: me that. I'm like, no, no, I don't. I was
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: like I want that.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Especially since now I knew that you had to switch ruse.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: I definitely didn't want to pass that.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: But even that, I don't think I knew that at
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: the time. But even then, I'm like, I'm not passing
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: house pips?
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Are you nuts?
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Even if I don't play that card, just you not
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: having it means the world to me.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Uh, what is a card? Inter Chonic measures draft that
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: you felt like hit way above it its normal status,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: even just having maybe one or two copies of it.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I'll go first on that one by saying, one of
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: the one that I saw that it was a lot
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: of fun was I actually got to see somebody who
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: had a deck that had four routine jobs, which is
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: of course obviously good. And I want to say, like,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: you know, counterfeit and conspiracy, maybe some ditchal lootes, but
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: like the Shadows, like eight out of their shadows pods
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: were we're just bunker's good. And they drafted a ton
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: of uh. I think they got an open the seal,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: a bunch of open the seals. They did not ironically
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: have the the thing from the deep, but they played
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: them just to get the discard pips and the extras.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: That's the crazy thing is I did not take the
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: open I was like, who wants that trashy thing?
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: So many pips on the dang thing. And what they
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: did was they chained two blank checks, and so all
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: that would happen is is they would discard everything that
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: they could, they'd get a blank check, they'd smack the
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: big uh, you know, three or four steel off of
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: the routine job, and then blank check to get it
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: all back into the deck and redraw it all over
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: again and It was incredibly effective because they put all
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: the discard pips on all the all the shadows cards,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: so they were just playing shadows for the most part.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: Once out of like maybe every six or seven turns
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: did they play something other than shadows because they just
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: had to. They just didn't get the cards. And about
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: once every three turns they were flipping the deck with
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: the routine the like check and so that was one
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: that I was like, oh, play check man, what a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: what a solid card.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: My big one that I was like, Oh, that's a problem.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: What's the dragon that makes your keys cost minus one?
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: Uh?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my oh no they want to make some cost less.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, god it makes your keys cost minus one.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: And my opponent round three had three of them and
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh no. I was like, that's that's
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: that's a real problem. He just played all of them.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: That's a real problem. Right now his keys cast out
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: of a board.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be a sad bunkie.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I had, I had, I was I was smart
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: enough to be like I need some I need something,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: So I had uh, I had the two geistoid pips.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: I Geistoid pipped my bubbles so I could bounce. So
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I could keep bouncing, and I was like, yeah, you
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: can have that back, and I'll figure out a way
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: to kill it here in a little bit. I had
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: other ways to kill things, but uh, I was able
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: to like get rid of it. So I'm like, yeah,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: let's let's make sure he doesn't come around, because I
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: know one of the one of the biggest complaints of
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: both I had two people complain a lot. They're like,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of capture in my deck or
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: capture from your side, and you have no creatures, And
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like right. I was like, my goal is to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: not play creatures unless I have to.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Do it is a viable strategy in d M to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: take advantage of those overwhelmed effects, and there is a
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: ton of captures. Yeah, especially M draft.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: I did not play any like I I think I
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: had bubble. I had two bubbles. I had a boiler
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: because I needed more cards than Geistoid. That was the
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: only reason there was a boiler flowing around in my dad.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's a Geistoid, it's boiler or a bear
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: or just a dead card. I'll take the boiler. I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: suppose all all of my creatures were more my obros
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: and like I told you I was dis carding my
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: obros because I needed none of them, so I really
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: didn't have anything really going on. I was I was
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: in two houses most of the game, and I didn't
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: play creatures, so a lot of the times they weren't
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: able to take advantage of the things they thought they'd
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: be able to because I was like, who's playing creatures
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: in draft? This is nuts?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Did you find car that was like a woman? And
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh wow, some new respect for that.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: Card, right, sort of not necessarily in a way that's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: specific to draft Sadly, I think for my own deck,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: I just drafted a better deck than I had in sealed,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: you know, two days prior, right, which is good. That
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: was fun. That's a that's a win for me. Boiler
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: speaking a Boiler, I sent that card across to my
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: opponent two or three times in the games I played
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: in draft, just because it was in Geistoid, and that's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: you know, old Switcheroo got it across the board and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: I never really got burned by it. So I gained
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: some more respect for Boiler. And then the final one
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: is Nisic Resonator in Mars, because I have fargasts vengeance
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: in my draft deck. I can't remember Martian names, and
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: so Nisic Resonator escaped me when it was preventing me
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: from winning the game so many turns in a row
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: until my opponent finally had it in a place where
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: I could look at it again and read it and
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: remember it. So Nizsic Resonator and Boiler sure both gained
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: more respect for both those cards which are not you know,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: those don't stand out typically as good cards, right.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: Right, speaking of fun things with Vargas Revenge, Well, what's uh?
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're a lot Well, actually, I guess in draft
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to look at your opponents are concred
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: never mind, No.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: There is no arc on card. And also I will
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: I will do that. Also, there is no deck adjusting
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: because of the enhancements, right, like if this ever got
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: to be a more competitive format. Uh, the decision was
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: made that once you come and show your enhanced cards
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: that are in your deck, you turn in the remainder
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: of the cards because policing enhancements in a deck that
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: if somebody was to like swap out a car, it
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: would be a nightmare. So absolutely that was the judge
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: in me looking for for uh, you know, trying to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: help future Marcus from having a hemorrhaging a fit. So
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: that that is something that once you whatever you're draft
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: and your bill, that's what you're kind of stuck with.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: I hope you're ready to ruling on var gas revenge.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Well maybe it's already happened. When somebody's like, I can't
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: remember the name of the card, but I know what
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: it does. Am I allowed to name what it does
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: and hit that card.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: In sealed?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: No, not yet. No, I mean like it because in
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: sealed theoretically you don't know.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: You don't know, so I could. I could in theory,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: though I need to name this card, but I can't,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: Like I can't remember. Uh, I've even now still forgotten it.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: The uh out idea. No, I like, I can't remember
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: that card to save my life. So if I'm like,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: I need I need to for gas revenge this card,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: but I don't.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Know the one that Bamboo did. That one does that count?
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Is that good enough?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: That's great? But it's not good enough? Not good?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: There you go, All right, there's your answer.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: If I like, if somebody came to me and said
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: that right now, unless there was you know, I was
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: given instructions from other people to to ruling differently. Okay,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: the game designer, I would say, I'm sorry, like you
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: you it's it's just not your lack of game knowledge
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: is not the fault of the game. So it's like,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I can't really let you get away with.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: It because I know this came up in Magic many
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: moons ago.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Brian Kibler Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: And it was one of those things where like rules
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: were changed due to it, and I'm like, yep, whatever
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: you need to.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: I think I wouldn't be surprised if people came out
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: and said that. But I mean, obviously, if you're playing
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: arc On it doesn't matter. You can always look right.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, I can agree that con Sealed it's
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: a soft buff to Mars because all the names are ridiculous.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Yes it is, yes, Uh. I sometimes wonder how they
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: get made.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: And that's a we've playing this on a on a
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: last In a past episode, Luke just jams the keyboard
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: and goes tell it's good.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: I just I just drink too much and leave him voicemails,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: and I figure the sounds like the way it sounds.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: I don't want to know how you got his phone number.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. He never calls back. It might not
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: be his, So someone's getting some fun voicemails. I don't know.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: I thought up a new virus card. It's called you.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: Stop calling this number calling this number?
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: All right, well, ghost Galaxies make this happen. I had
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: so much fun playing this. I think this could be
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: an awesome competitive format. It's not going to be for everybody.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: I understand that, but I think a lot of people
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: would enjoy it. If you're going to everybody, you got Baltimore,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: you'll be at Baltimore, right. I believe that's one of
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: the side events is drafts. So if you're going to Baltimore,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: I highly highly highly highly urge you, even if you
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: don't even if you don't like dr even if you
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: don't like Tach Building, give it a shot.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: It is. Yeah. I just asked everybody to give it
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: a go. Some people. I have only had a very
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: very small number of people that have said Nope, I
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: don't want to do it. And I'm like, okay, I'm
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: not gonna My.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Name is Sheep, just the one that's it. Yeah, there's
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: no other people.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: I'd be remiss if I didn't throw sheep under the
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: bus about Saint Louis. So I got I got a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: very special recognition for choosing to play Draft, which is absurd,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: but I'll take it. And and the reason I wasn't
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: going to play draft is because she pulled me aside.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: He said, Pete, this is not KeyForge. You need to
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: keep KeyForge pure. And I said, Sheep, I understand, and
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: then I played Draft anyways. So I just wanted to
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: put that out there into the world, that that she
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: is a bad influence.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: But I think everyone, well, I do appreciate that you
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: being the twenty fourth for that one that makes things
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: so much easier. But the way I look at it is,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: you know what it Sheep should be happy about it
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: because if it brings one more person in the door,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: right and then they learn Sheep that the Sheep manifesto
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: and they are able to adopt the sheep sheeply ways,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: and then then he should be happy, you know. And
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: it means one more person to play a great game
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: that we all love. And that's what it really comes
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: down to, is just providing. You know, That's what all
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: the side events are for, Like given me all these things,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: a moment in the sun and like I really am
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: very happy with like the way that the prizing works
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: for him. You know, it's it's like you get a prize,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: you double your your double your the deck that you
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: put into it by finishing in the top half. Yes,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: and Ghost Galaxy has been very generous and the fact
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: that you know, like when for the draft we ended
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: up having for twenty four players, we ended up having
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: least another twenty four decks put in and that's awesome.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, like just a great opportunity for everybody to
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 3: walk away with some cool stuff.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, everybody, you heard me talking to the police
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: department just just now, by the way, I did. I
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: did have to make its phone call at work earlier
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: today and unfortunately the Milwaukee Police depart I called them
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: at six and unfortunately the Milwaukee Police Department response, time's yeah,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: let's let's pick that up on the corner.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let me let me ask you Marcus.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Because I thought so, DM, I feel like it's kind
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: of uniquely suited to draft. It seemed like the low
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: frequency of house pips made those exciting, and then power
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: pips are kind of neat in this context, whereas an
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: ARCon maybe they're not so exciting. What's the next set?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: I'm asking this, like, you don't already have three or
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: four lined up? What's the next set you think is
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: best suited for draft?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I may or may not be literally while I
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: am sitting here working on the next set for Baltimore.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: So I am hoping that that will come to fruition,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: and if it does, it will be one of my
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: favorite sets. I will say it's probably one of the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: ones that I enjoy playing the most, and it is
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: I think one.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: Of the most intriguing sets in the makeup of the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: cards that are in it. Just because there's I think
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: you will also be very uniquely suited to drafting and
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  Speaker 5: will produce some A tier, B tier and C tier
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  Speaker 5: combos that will be pretty exciting to play.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, well you want to well your locals, you
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  Speaker 1: want to wager? I guess I already have a guess.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of I have an idea from your question.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I thought there was one set that immediately
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  Speaker 1: came to mind. What's it Ambers, Guys?
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  Speaker 3: I think.
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  Speaker 1: With the amount of house pip Center in it and
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  Speaker 1: the ability to place them, would make dumb things.
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  Speaker 2: Happen, absolutely, But I also feel like it's excessive. It's
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  Speaker 2: almost embarrassment of wealth, right, whoe would be weird? How
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  Speaker 2: to even figure that out? It would take a mad
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  Speaker 2: genius and laboratory to figure out how to make a
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  Speaker 2: draft set out of woe? And who are we talking to?
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  Speaker 3: Wow? That's like, that's that's incredible. How would you make
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  Speaker 3: token creatures that? I don't know? I might have to
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  Speaker 3: think about that for another six months.
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  Speaker 2: Once, once you've heard a man do a Vincent Price
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  Speaker 2: impression for an entire audience, you kind of know how
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  Speaker 2: his brain works. Okay, well, I'm surprised somebody else what
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: that was.
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was just like I didn't know. I
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  Speaker 1: was like, to anybody here even know what that is?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I shouted thank you Vincent and I I didn't hear that.
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  Speaker 2: We're probably like, that's not his name. His name is Marcus.
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  Speaker 1: I did not hear you say that.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh I did I heard that one?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, good, I'm glad. I'm glad.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like Josh would be huge.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's too much. It's successive. Josh got raight through
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  Speaker 2: the Coles last week for his time on the mic. Marcus,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like your time on the mic was Oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you did well. You listened to it exactly. Yeah, Marcus,
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  Speaker 2: your time on the mic was not wasted. Have you,
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  Speaker 2: in your past and your history sorted history, perhaps ever
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  Speaker 2: been a strip club MC or radio DJ.
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  Speaker 3: That's my last question. The radio DJ in college radio.
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  Speaker 3: DJU and I have done voiceover work as well a
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  Speaker 3: number of things. I like, I I you know, as
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: far as the stripper aspect of it, I can neither
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  Speaker 3: confirm her to die that back.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm just having fits now of Marcus with a
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  Speaker 1: microphone in front of him going now, coming to the now,
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  Speaker 1: coming to the pole. kN do ready, And then then
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  Speaker 1: the other of G being the strip club connoisseur. It's
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: just all these things, all the stars are aligning. Pete,
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  Speaker 1: what are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: We have the origin story. We have the origin story
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: in the entire.
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  Speaker 1: And now we know how it all happens. G met
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  Speaker 1: Marcus at a strip club where he was MC ing
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  Speaker 1: for and Josh either that's right. But this is the
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  Speaker 1: story we're sticking to, and that's what we're that's what
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: we're sticking to. But we're going to wrap it up here.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: Again.
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  Speaker 1: I highly highly highly like if you are going to Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually what gave me the like I might want
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  Speaker 1: to go to Baltimore because I was like, I could
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  Speaker 1: draft more. That was fantastic where I was like, And I.
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  Speaker 3: Will also say, if you get me, if there are
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: times I am trying to make enough extra packs at
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: times so that if people want to run a draft
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: pod prior to the draft event, usually I have enough
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: for one or two to be able to do that.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, just hit me up at a Vault
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  Speaker 3: tour and we get that beautiful draft.
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  Speaker 1: Action on the Tennessee will be my next shot.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, Tennessee is gonna be a blast.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Marcus will be a Tennessee fantastic, But go try
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  Speaker 1: it out. Baltimore coming up in just a few weeks
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  Speaker 1: here right, it's the beginning of July, well.
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  Speaker 3: After fourth of July, the week after fourth of July.
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  Speaker 1: So go to your local Vault. Baltimore is always a
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  Speaker 1: blast that that store is absolutely phenomenal, huge store, fantastic
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  Speaker 1: place to be. I had a lot of fun in
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore last year. Big thanks, thank you Marcus for coming
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  Speaker 1: on and talk a diraft with us.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, thanks for the thumbs up. You know,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: the Wookie Seal of Approval goes along.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and now it'll become made because all of Wookie's
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: ideas are immediately stolen by g G.
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  Speaker 3: Because you're the prize. That's the right the prize.
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  Speaker 1: And and big thanks to Pete coming on and filling
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  Speaker 1: in for all of my delinquent misfits.
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  Speaker 3: I did my best.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks to one, you got one, you got one, bending
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  Speaker 1: the need of Mickey. I don't know what trash Car
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: is doing, and I think as far as Sheep always
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: making fun of me for being at work, he's at
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: work right now. What a bump. But thank you everybody.
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  Speaker 1: We we missed them all, but thank you all for listening.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see you all next week.
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  Speaker 2: I defer my parting statement to Vincent Price. Go ahead, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Lady Jim, when you want the finest in podcast technologies,
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  Speaker 3: come to see Wookie and Pete over at the Arcons corner.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent. Thank you.
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