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Matt and Joy Thayer Interview: The Great Awakening Is Here, and It’s Unstoppable · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. The globalists have stopped at nothing to force their great reset upon us. In doing so, they've triggered an awakening that is sweeping across the world, and it cannot be stopped. Hong Kong.
• 0:19
  Today, I'm joined by Matt and Joy Thayer, the brilliant team behind the Trump I Know documentary. And we're gonna talk about their new powerful film project, the Reawakening docu series. But before we get started, I have two messages for you. The first one, if you're not following me yet on Telegram, please do. It's the uncensored place I can find so far, and it's where I'm most active on social media.
• 0:44
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• 1:04
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• 2:17
  There we go. You know, we're not we're not Fox News. We're not owned by BlackRock and Vanguard with a billion dollar production budget. That's how you know we're not fake news.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: Right? It's proven. Exactly.
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: It's proven. Awesome. Matt and Joy, thank you so much for joining me today.
• 2:37
  Speaker 3: So glad to be here.
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you. And thank thank you for all the people that are commenting over here. We're very entertaining.
• 2:42
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. This is hilarious.
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: We're just sitting over
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  Speaker 3: here I've literally taken some pictures to post later on some of your comments that people have shared. I just want to read two of my favorites before
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  Speaker 1: we Oh, please do. Because
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  Speaker 3: this is you pause for a second. And let me see. I got to scroll over. Oh, this one. This one was great.
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  If you want to expand your wealth, follow Pelosi and her husband's insider trading, and follow along to make bank laugh out loud. So that was a great one. There was a couple others. But, anyway, we got some other things to talk about, and we can read your comments later.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Right. So how about so I first met you actually through the Clay Clark events, but but in the first work I saw of yours was the Trump I know documentary where as far as I understood, you were the only documentary film film crew that was allowed to go into the White House and interview President Trump at that time when he was still sitting in the White House as our true president. So tell me about that experience. What was that like?
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, Joy wasn't able to go that day Well because we we we had only a very small yeah. Like, a limited amount of people, and, she didn't make the cut.
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: I produced it. Couldn't get in.
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. She she's a producer on the film and couldn't get in the White House. But well, that it was an experience. I mean, as far as I know, like like you said, I think we are the only documentary about president Trump that actually has an interview with him in it.
• 4:15
  We got to interview him right there in the White House, and it was a whirlwind of an experience. We thought we were gonna have forty five minutes with him. We actually ended up with only fifteen, you know, and he was in and out of the room faster than, you know, like, anything. But what I saw in that moment was just an extraordinary guy who knows how to adjust. So, like, when he walked in the room, he didn't know what he was there for.
• 4:44
  And Laura and him had gotten separated, and they were supposed to come in together, and she was supposed to have explained to him why he was there. And and but then when all of sudden she kinda showed up behind me and the whole situation, I won't go into it. It was a really funny story, but the whole situation was that she walked in and all of a sudden all his handlers are saying like, know, we don't have time for this. We don't have time for this. And she just said, you know, like, hey, can you give us like ten or fifteen minutes?
• 5:08
  And you watched him just completely adjust And he just dabbed his forehead, sat down, and gave us this great interview. And, you know, it was it was just an extraordinary moment where you're watching the most powerful man in the world all of a sudden make a decision to just be present for fifteen minutes, even though he had much more important things that he could be doing. And it was just, to me, an example of true humility that I probably won't ever forget.
• 5:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think for me on the the experience on the documentaries, I hadn't voted for president Trump in the prior election because I was listening to all the mainstream media. And so I was going, you know, I don't like his personality on Twitter. I don't like this. I don't like that.
• 5:52
  He's a, you know, misogynist. He's all these different things. And I've worked on a film called Unplanned a few years back and it's a pro life film and our our Twitter account gotten taken down. And so our producers ended up going out and meeting with Mike Pence and Laura Trump and became friends with Laura. And so when they presented us with this project, they said, you know, we wanna go and we wanna get firsthand experiences from the women surrounding Trump.
• 6:19
  So we we interviewed 31 women within the business, the family, and the campaign. And so I started doing research because I said, well, I won't just go out and film something if I don't believe in the project, and I won't do some kind of puff piece or I won't, you know, be behind it. So I started reading his books for years and finding out the policies that he had been implementing and the things that he'd been talking about for many years were consistent. But I think it's even to this day, people will ask me questions on on Trump and stuff. I'm not his best friend.
• 6:49
  I don't know what he thinks and why he thinks that. And but I what I do know is that this is my best friend, and I don't agree with him a % on everything. You know, and we have discussions and we have thoughts and and all that kind of stuff and there are things that president Trump has put into place and policies that he's done that I'm going, yep, I agree with that. Yep, I agree with that and I know consistently he has been pro America and he's been fighting for the rights of We the People. So that's that's what I really, really went into the project going, okay.
• 7:19
  I can get behind somebody that is gonna support the the nation's freedoms, even for choice.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No. Absolutely. And you did a great job of just of telling a very objective story of him in that documentary through the eyes of the people around him and and especially the women around him, which, you know, really went against what the mainstream media was telling everybody. And so now did you experience when you released that documentary, did you experience any censorship with that, or did you have any trouble getting it on the main the big platforms?
• 7:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So that that's a
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: We did.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. We we we we've created that whole documentary in three months because from start to finish, which is Wow. Just an extraordinary feat. All of the interviews, we were editing as we go, basically just laying tracks as the train was just going down the road. We got everything done and submitted.
• 8:11
  And the way that peep people don't understand sometimes, like, how documentaries or how these things are submitted to some of these bigger platforms. We submitted the we submitted all of everything that needed to happen to this aggregate service, which then pushes it out to say your Amazon Prime or your iTunes or Google or whatnot. And and then they go through like a QA not QA, but a QC process. Right? So they go through and they make sure that everything is good, copacetic, blah blah blah.
• 8:38
  But we we we we hit all of the deadlines Yeah. To get in to to to have Amazon accept us. Like and we we we figured we were gonna be accepted by about October 10. So, like, a month before the election. And we just kept going like, what's going on?
• 8:55
  What's going on? What's going on? And we kept getting these kind of weird emails. And then all of a sudden, the day after the election, it comes out.
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: We were like
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  Speaker 3: And that was on just one of the platforms.
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  Speaker 2: That was just on one of the Another
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  Speaker 3: platform wouldn't even put it on till after January.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: Well, no. Was actually after December. After December, the we we showed up on iTunes and and Google. And and what was really interesting was so there was a lot of censorship, and then Facebook wouldn't let us promote anything.
• 9:21
  Speaker 3: They took down our we had shirts. We had T shirts
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Sweatshirts, tank tops. I got an email saying that they were gonna take those down and that we couldn't have them on there because they were selling or promoting the sale of alcohol or animals. I was like, they're shirts. They're t you can't even come up with something better than that.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: So appear apparently, our sweatshirts are full of wine and made from puppies, and that's probably
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: It's funny because my original plot is still America video on Facebook, I started getting screenshots and peep you know, people were saying that when they shared it, it had one of the warnings on it where it has, like, the eyeball with a slash through it saying, are you sure you wanna see this? It said it can grain it can contained graphic nudity and pornographic content. And it was me in my suit jacket. It was like, oh my goodness. You're hot.
• 10:07
  Maybe I was showing a little too much cast. Wow. So tell me about the documentary series that you're working on right now because and and we'll we'll show actually, tell you what. How about we start with let's go ahead and play the trailer for the the first of three documentaries that you you just finished. Yeah.
• 10:30
  Let's go because your trailers are mind blowingly amazing. So, Dom, why don't you go ahead and queue the trailer because I really want the audience to see this trailer. You have to check this out. Just a beautiful day in Downtown Oklahoma City.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: We will. Tonight has been postponed. You are all safe. We're in a very fragile place.
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: How do I be successful in my business when I'm being told by my government that I have to close my doors?
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: In the Thrive Time show, we try to teach people how to grow a business.
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  Speaker 3: If he questions and wants to get to the truth, he wanna know why we were shut down. Where is this coming from?
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: China had this festering. We need that data.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: What are
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: they gonna do when they come for your kids? The answer is no. Boutique didn't know anything really about anything, and I'd say that to his face. Delora, I really appreciate you for allowing me to No. We have people in charge over our communities that we don't know what their philosophy is.
• 11:40
  Our country has become godless. We've taken god out of everything. The markets today plummeted. They will not allow us within to a hundred feet. I called general Flynn.
• 11:52
  I said, I think god wants us to team up to do a reopen America tour, and we get people back to god.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: He says, I know. I'm going, you know?
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: What is required for the darkness to creep in is the absence of light.
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  Speaker 2: We seem to have lost the value of our basic fundamental rights.
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  Speaker 3: Why will the churches not stand up?
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely incredible. So folks, just so you know, we just released that documentary on Rise TV. If you wanna go check it out, can get a free trial to watch it. So you can basically watch it for free if you want to. There's a link in the description below to do that.
• 12:45
  And that so that is just that is the part one of a three part series called Reawakening. So tell us about or is it four part series?
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Four part.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: Oh, so okay. So tell us what what this series is. What what can we expect with this?
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean, you can see a lot of it right there in the trailer. It's it's exposing the the truth that mainstream media has not been sharing, and we're so excited to have partnered with Rise TV when we met you and we met Mike, and just finding out what your guys' journey has been. It was just like, oh my goodness. These are our people.
• 13:19
  But, we we came out and Clay Clark has been doing these re it started with reopen America, and then now it's the reawakening events and tour. And so he's been going to different states, and he's got different speakers. And so we had the privilege of interviewing 82 of the speakers. But now we're not podcasters. We are not the the local news.
• 13:40
  We are not a media outlet. We're filmmakers. And so we bring our filmmaking background in giving context. Matt will share. We give context to our nation's history and the foundations.
• 13:52
  The next episode is on medical tyranny. You're in there, and you're talking about propaganda and what the mainstream media has been attempting to do to undermine the truth and have their narrative out there. And then the following one is on election integrity and why we need to we need to actually be protecting our our right to vote and not be, you know, doing some of the stuff that the Biden administration is trying to put in place right now. And then we go into Klaus Schwab's book and the great reset and the stuff that there's been people saying stuff out loud. And I think one of my favorite memes that I've seen lately is that instead of calling it conspiracy theories, they should call them spoiler alerts.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: That's that's good. It is funny because just this morning, I was in my office looking over, and I've got Klaus Schwab's great reset book on my shelf. And I thought about it, and I said, they most people call that a conspiracy theory, but actually, the guy wrote a book about it and it's sitting on my shelf. There. It's it's it's right that they're putting it right in front
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: of us. Mhmm.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm and, you know, just to kinda piggyback off of what, you know, Joy was sharing. As far as the documentary goes, as a director because I'm the writerdirector. Joy's the producer. And as a director, I'm always interested in, like, the bigger story, like, what's really going on. And that's why I was really interested in this kind of, like, idea of reawakening.
• 15:16
  Right? Because people ask me, like, well, when were we awake? What are talking about? We've been like, everybody's been asleep. And it's like, well, we were awake a long time ago back in the late you know, back in the in the 1700s, right, when all of this tyranny was was coming down on us and these monarchies, We had to fight for our freedom and we had to fight a bloody battle to get it, you know, that freedom.
• 15:35
  We were awake at that point. If you go back and you read, you know, the journals and, you know, some of the pamphleteers and some of these and the pastors that were preaching at the time, there was very much an awakening that was happening. And I think that that's what's happening now, right? Is that we're awakening up to the tenants of liberty and where do those tenants of liberty come from? And we're waking up to the idea that tyranny does exist.
• 16:02
  Those are things that we used to be very aware of. And so in this documentary, not only are we chronicling some of these modern day heroes, really, that have come come up to bat, you know, and basically step forward here in 2020, a lot of times a lot of the people that we're talking to really, really have just begun to be engaged since 2020 and have just kind of woken up themselves. And so I think that's very interesting to me. I call it like the Davids that were out watching the sheep and not even realizing that they were actually being groomed to face Goliath and to become king. Know?
• 16:40
  And so like here are these people that were out just, you know, they're just entrepreneurs. They're just, you know, they're just lawyers. They're just, you know, these moms, you know? And all of a sudden it's like 2020 happens and they're like, holy crap, what's going on? I've got to do something.
• 16:52
  I've got to become involved. And then realizing that they have these gifts and talents and abilities that are already there. Right? And so in the first episode, for example, you know, we show, you know, Clay Clark and Clay Clark was just an entrepreneur and a business coach and happened to, you know, be a DJ and had done events. Then all of a sudden, boom, look at what he's, you know and he never wanted to talk about religion or politics.
• 17:12
  And now all of a sudden, here he is. He's, you know, he's part of this tour, and he's all there talking about is religion politics. And so, you know, and then Tom Rens is gonna be featured in the in the second episode. Mhmm. Because he's just such an interesting character.
• 17:25
  Very self deprecating, kind of unassuming kind of guy. But then he's just like, I gotta stand up and do the right thing, because, like, I'm a dad, and I don't wanna see my kids, you know, growing up in a country that goes to hell in a handbasket. You know? I gotta fight for this thing. And so that's really what you know, I love what Tom says even in the first episode.
• 17:45
  He says, this is what the bad guys don't want to get out.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Mhmm.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Is that it it it really is the everyday person. It really is the person that's just standing up and just doing what it is that they can do every single day to make our country better, which is what the the the bad guys don't want us to do. They want us to go to sleep. They want us to put on our VR. They want us to, you know, just get our ice cream and watch the Super Bowl and just shut up and be be shills and just be quiet and be cheap.
• 18:11
  Mhmm. And that's what they want. And and and and like you said, you know, this reawakening is happening where all of a sudden people are waking up and realizing, wait a minute. Hold on a second. We gotta do something.
• 18:19
  And so that's what our documentary is about is it's like it's kind of reconnecting some of those pieces in history because we talk to a historian. We go back in time, and it's all done in this very entertaining way. Like, I didn't do a narration. I didn't wanna have somebody tell you what they think. I I wanted you to just experience it.
• 18:39
  So it's kind of I've had people tell me that it reminds them of, you know, the games Myst or Riven, where you kind of like you wake up and you're like, where am I? And now all of a sudden, I'm kind of floating through this universe and I found this journal or I found this thing over here and it's like the puzzle pieces are coming together. And so the whole entire documentary is meant to be an experience to be watched. And all of a sudden it's like you're going back in time and then all of a sudden you're reading something and then you're just like hearing something and you're piecing stuff together and you're going, oh, I forgot about that. You know, so I I wanted it to be that kind of an experience for people entertaining in that way.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Something I noticed when watching is that you have a way of showing the evil agenda and showing that this was planned. And it was it's a very long plan, and it's easy to feel as if maybe they've got the the leg up on us. It's easy to feel like they're much stronger than us. They own the media. They own the big banks, etcetera.
• 19:35
  But there's this element of hope that's woven through that you don't watch it and feel like, oh my gosh, we're doomed afterwards. And you're like, okay, I might as well give up. It it's inspiring to you. And the if you look at the whole agenda behind The Great Reset, and they're having to accelerate this and push it. But it seems like the more they push it, the more people are seeing through it.
• 19:57
  So I know that, you know, the the the true beliefs of a filmmaker will come through in their films. So, Joy, from your perspective, do you have hope? Do you believe that the people are coming together uniting? And do you think that we're gonna win this battle that we're we're in up against this evil global tyranny that's emerged?
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I think and I'm reading some of your comments, so my eyes are darting all over. But some of the comments that are there, for one, just even having the misunderstanding. Somebody had said that it said, why doesn't the state stand up at the end of our at the end of the promo? But at the end of the promo, it actually says, why doesn't the church stand up?
• 20:38
  And so if we're talking about hope, you know, our our hope comes from god first and we know that he he's even sent Jesus to pay for our sins. You know, Adam and Eve fell way back in the garden and he had a plan to redeem us then. So what's going on right now in the globe isn't a surprise to God. And if we believe that God is real and we believe that the word of God is real, then we gotta believe that God actually has a plan. And if we can align ourselves with his will and his plan, we're gonna we're on the winning side.
• 21:10
  And so it it doesn't mean that things aren't gonna be hard. It doesn't mean that things aren't gonna be difficult. But from all the Bible verses that I read, that we need a lot of courage. We need a lot of strength. You know, Daniel ended up in the lion's den, and it wasn't he didn't get saved from going into lion's den.
• 21:26
  There was just another person in there shutting the mouth of the lions. You know? And so right now, what we need is we need to know that no matter what we're going through right now, we've been praying so hard for the truckers up in Canada. And talk about discouragement. One thing after another.
• 21:41
  You know, they didn't go up there and all of a sudden, you know, the government lay down and go, nope. We're good. They went up there and they're they are fighting a battle, and we're we're on the winning side. We just gotta keep realigning ourselves with the Lord. So, absolutely, I think that we go by hope and joy, and, we try to center ourselves in the hope of glory, and that's what we try to bring in our projects.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Mhmm. It's interesting because I I just I put a post out maybe an hour before the show on on Telegram, which I read it to you really quickly, and it just says, it's spot it's spotted with what you just said. I said, the evil criminals that are undermining, attacking, and attempting to destroy our great nation have every weapon at their disposal, blackmail, unlimited money, no moral code, an army of lawyers, the mainstream media and so much more.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: But never forget this, they don't have God. They are godless, and they mock us for our faith. That will be their downfall. No matter how difficult the road ahead is, remember that God stands behind those who have faith and in the end, God wins. Mhmm.
• 22:44
  It's just that that that's where we are. And then you see that message come through. You absolutely see that message come through. And I think that one thing that you two are doing an amazing job at is fighting this battle because this is we are in a battle of narratives. And for a lot of us that see what's really happening, our friends, our family, or even our loved ones, they may not see it, and they might still be tuning into, you know, the mainstream media, the Mockingbird media.
• 23:09
  And I think that what you've done with this documentary series is you've you've created something that walks people through the narrative so they can you can show your friends or family this. And it might be that that, like, that little bit of the the beginning of the red pill journey for them. It's easy to swallow.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Right. And
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: they might say, wow. Like, you know, that that that's actually right. That that's a real it's a really important role that your documentary is playing. Thank you. Oh, thank you.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I think that then I'll let you share.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: You're fine.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: I think that that's been some of the interesting things is what we wanna do is that people don't that don't know the information. Matt and I were very fortunate to have parents that shared with us a lot of this history over the course of our lifetime. And we're meeting people that are going, did you know this? And did you know that? And we've just been very fortunate to have known these stories.
• 23:56
  You know? I think one of the ones that when we were doing the interviews, Mel Kay in the first episode talks about when Obama was in office during think it was 2012. She he put in place the modernization of the Smith Munt Act, which is the ability to use propaganda against the American people if the government feels it's for their own protection. Right? So she did a much better job explaining that.
• 24:19
  I I talked to her the other day on her show. And so I've looked it up, and then I told on another show, I was just talking to some people. I was at Sundance a few years ago, and there was a whole panel discussion. And like you're talking about the Mockingbird Media, if you don't know what the Mockingbird Media is, please go look it up. There was a panel discussion that had radio, news, they had, gosh, film, television, just everything, magazines, and they were talking about how they were all gonna get on the same page and get their stories out there that they need to all be speaking as one.
• 24:54
  And people in the audience were just cheering. And I was just so stressed out being there, I'm like, Lord, why am I here? And he said, one, you have to know that this is going on. And two, you have to pray against it and expose the truth. And so I think for us, being out here, it's it is exposing the truth, letting people know.
• 25:10
  And then like Matt said, it's not telling them how to think. It's it's saying, hey. Go look into this for yourself. Check it out. Be be critical thinkers and have discussions and find out what's going on so you can you can figure out what you need for your family.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Mhmm. Yeah. And and, well, somebody just asked where they can watch the documentary. You can actually watch it on rise.tv now. So it's right there.
• 25:33
  And you can and you can watch the Trump I know as well. I think that's still on there. Right?
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I think so. I I'm not sure if we still have Trump I know. It it might be I think we're coming to the end. But Okay. But also, I know that Trump I know you can rent it.
• 25:45
  I think my my first time watching it, I think I rented it on iTunes or on Amazon Prime or something. I hate giving them that business. Yeah,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: yeah. We're trying to avoid that as much as possible. Anyway, but why I think that, you know, it's it's really interesting because you're saying like, you know, people, you know, friends, family members, you know, just like just like the narrative. Right? And it's crazy because you got I go back and I was reading seventeen seventy six by David McCullough.
• 26:13
  I'm actually think I'm selling quite a few of these copies of this book, but it's really good. It's it was written a decade and a half ago or so. But he goes through the year of 1776 really well. And he talks he kind of it's kind of strings together like all these journals and, you know, all of these events and documents and everything. And so you really feel like you're reading a story, but it's all of this historical information.
• 26:40
  And but what the things that struck me was that, like, there was only, like, a third of the people in The United States. So at that point, it would have been a million people who were on the side of the Continental Army, who were on the side of the rebels. A third of them were Tories or British sympathizers. And then a third of them didn't really even know what was going on or was like, ah, we're just kinda neutral. You know?
• 27:06
  And so, really, look at that today. I mean, it's kind of where we're at, you know? It's like, I think that more and more people actually, I think, more people are on the side of like, what's going on, and there needs to be a change than then. But we're still, like, in that same kind of place, and it's like, we and then look at what you were saying, like, what God's doing. Yeah.
• 27:27
  You know, all you have to do is read in the Bible. I mean, look at where God stepped in over and over and over again, if his people came back to him and said, hey, like, we've messed up and we're really sorry and we want to align ourselves back up against, you know, underneath your principles. And he says, watch what happens and, you know, he just takes out armies. You know, armies, like, all of a sudden turn in on themselves and destroy themselves. And, you know, this is the god that that we serve and the god that's still living and active today.
• 27:54
  And that's one of the other things that we explore in the documentary is like, well, you know, what if God's real? You know, what if he's actually real? And there's quantum physics that's actually proving that the possibility of God exists. And so it's really becoming harder and harder to be an atheist. You mean agnostic, but, you know, but there is there is strong evidence coming out of the quantum physics realm, and we talk about that in the documentary as well, that's that's showing that there's an intelligent designer out there.
• 28:25
  And maybe if there's an intelligent designer, maybe has some intelligence on how we should be conducting our lives and how best we should be doing society. And I think that that's one of the things that we're all beginning to, again, reawaken to and wake up to. And I think we're going to step into this new age where I think we're going to start I think we're going to see some miracles happening. Don't think we're done for at all. I think I think it's we're getting set up to watch to watch the deep state and these corrupt cabal go down in spectacular fashion.
• 28:58
  I think it's gonna be like fireworks. I mean, I think we're gonna be writing books about this for years to come on how we went to the brink and all of a sudden God came in, and we're gonna be like, holy cow.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Mhmm.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Like, it's it's just gonna be a miraculous turnaround.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: You know, I I couldn't agree more, honestly. And I also agree with you that I I believe that we are we are entering back into a stage in history history where mankind will be allowed to see miracles. Mhmm. You know, if you look, you know, back on the Bible, it was almost a common thing then. Or even if you look back at some of the Renaissance painters, it's like it's very obvious to me they were seeing scenes of heaven that they were painting.
• 29:36
  It wasn't like they just dream some random thing. So they were being shown these things because I think that mankind deserves to be shown these things, and our moral character was at at a realm where we could accept these things. Whereas now we're in our society, in a lot of ways, you're mocked for talking about these things. I believe that this is part of the reawakening. This is this reemergence of that, you know, what they might call a spiritual civilization, a spiritual society where there's, know, the belief in God is commonplace.
• 30:03
  If you look back in the history, there's ancient civilizations where it was just known. Everyone believed in God. Everyone talked about God. It was just part of how you lived. And I think that what's interesting with how this all plays out and what also makes me believe that we're heading back to that spot is if you you mentioned that, you know, it's harder and harder to become be an atheist.
• 30:23
  Right? And I think I agree. It's like they say there's no atheist in foxholes. When you realize that the height that the life you thought was so beautiful and comfortable is no longer that anymore, you have to realize maybe there's something beyond this. And I think that if you look at how the communist work, because I believe that so much of what we're seeing attacking us is rooted in communism.
• 30:44
  Absolutely. And even if you go back to Marx himself, you know, he waged a war on God. And it's a very fundamental tenet of communism that they use to, slowly break down a society that makes it more right for the takeover. They have to attack the morals of that society. They have to remove God from the church.
• 31:01
  You know, they have to remove God from the schools. And literally remove God from the churches. That's, you know, communism.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: It's Right.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: The communist party becomes God. Right? So they have to remove God from that society, break down their family unit, because they know that when, faith is strong in a society, and when that society when that country is wearing the armor of God, it protects it against tyranny. And I think that the in a lot of ways, the reawakening that's happening is people waking up to the fact that, wow, we've let cultural Marxism and Satan seep so heavily into our society, into our hearts. And the way out of this is to fix that.
• 31:38
  The way out of this is to really look at ourselves morally and go back to, you know, the the 10 commandments, back to the basic tenets of what it means to be humans. And I think that that's as that continues and people continue to improve themselves. I couldn't agree more that we're gonna see some amazing and beautiful miracles, but there's there's also gonna be a lot of death and destruction I feel and that's just that's part of the process. Yep.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: And and unfortunately, that's I agree. I think that there's gonna be more death and destruction that's happening but I think that that's the other thing, you know, if you go back to hope is that we get to see some of our favorite people again, you know, and so just letting them go. We had a a son that passed away a few years ago, and that's that's really hard. I I my heart goes out to people that have lost loved ones right now, And, I just feel so blessed to know that one day I'll get to be with him again. And so we're just praying that, that God will protect those that are are leaving this planet too.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, that's a really good point. So where are you at? As I know that you've published the first of the four part series, which we have up on Rise TV. And again, for folks that are asking, there's a free trial link in the description below.
• 32:54
  You can go sign up, you can watch the video. It's against a free trial. So it's over on rise.tv. There's a link below. The second documentary, you're in the process now.
• 33:04
  Are you close to finishing the second documentary?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: We're about halfway through. And and and right now, you know, we're we're really fundraising to get the rest of it done. We had the we had the personal finances to be able to get the first one done. And we really felt like we were supposed to push it out on rise or just try to get it out there as widely as we could, you know, for free if so people could just see it and share it and, you know, get it get it out there as much as possible. And so we are fundraising.
• 33:36
  So we have a Give, Send, Go right now. Give, Send, Go reawakening series where if anybody For
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: folks watching or listening, that's in the description. So in the description below the video is that link for the Gibson Go, which as we're seeing with the truckers right now, it is a company you want to support. So support Gibson Go and Support what you guys are doing as well.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: And so we're in the middle of episode two. Episode two is going to be about medical tyranny because really the whole thing is about liberty versus tyranny. And so the case that we're making is that you know, tyranny is tyranny. And when so right now, it just happens to be clothed in this you know, basically in a white coat and a stethoscope. Right?
• 34:16
  So it's like it's it's just medical tyranny. It's just showing up in a different way. It used to be economic tyranny. It used to be religious tyranny. There's probably a technocracy kind of tyranny also that's there.
• 34:27
  But really, medical tyranny is the is the the impetus of the second episode. And we talked to Tom Wrens. We get to know Tom Rens a little bit better. Some of these other frontline doctors, Nipudi, artists.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Simone Gold.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: Simone Gold.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Still Emmanuel.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Then we're also weaving into that the propaganda. And we have you know, you're gonna be in there, Mel Kay, a little bit more. Just talking about how the media has been kind of complicit in all of this. And, again, it's really it it the the quote that we start the whole episode one, the whole documentary series off with is a quote from CS Lewis, which is one of my favorites. And it's it says that people don't need to be told or taught as much as they need to be reminded.
• 35:12
  And I think that's one of the things that I've experienced with people is that there's this truth, there's this sense, right, that people have. And if they're all of a sudden reminded of those things, all of it, there's like this recollection like, know? And there's a there is this reawakening to that happening. And so I think that's what we're trying to do is we're trying to kind of go back in time, connect people. We've had people go like, hey, I forgot that that happened.
• 35:36
  Thanks for showing that again.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Like, it
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: kind of made sense now. Now that we have this 2020 vision now, we're looking back through time, and we're seeing how this stuff is all being played and how the cabal is manipulating and using medical tyranny and all of this stuff to really control people. And it's breaking down and why is it breaking down and, you know, like how do we keep this from happening again? Right? So that's really what the second episode is going to be about.
• 36:03
  The third episode, we're we've already shot some stuff for it. It's going to be on medical, no, election fraud And the the the sanctity of our of our vote and elections. And then really, what is it all pointing to? The episode four is in process as well. And that's going to be about the great reset and transhumanism.
• 36:24
  And really, what they're trying to do is just completely corrupt our DNA. Because, you know, I believe that this isn't a battle about flesh and blood. It's a battle about the principalities and the powers that are the darkness of the universe. And they hate human beings because we actually are image bearers of God, and we reflect God. And our DNA has something to do with that, and they want to corrupt it.
• 36:46
  And they've been trying to corrupt it for a long time. And this is just now their new their their new spin on this. So we're just kind of showing and go again, it's all about just showing it like this isn't this isn't anything new. This is something that's been happening. This is just maybe a different facet, but it's the same old tricks all over again.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Mhmm. And even on the what you're talking about on on episode two, it is on medical tyranny, but some of it is exposing you know, we've got some great interviews with, like, Karen Kingston and talking about Mhmm. Some of the stuffs that are in these shots and, making sure that people understand. If you're gonna take one of these shots, these are the things that have been put in them, and this is when they've changed those things. And so we're doing our best to follow patents, and we're doing our best to get all the most up to date information.
• 37:35
  Like I said, having my son that was severely disabled for years, I chose just not to vaccinate him altogether. And then I was looking into, what were in vaccines many, many years ago. And then when they changed the verbiage because we we we play this ever changing game on changing names, you know, of we'll change the meaning of something, and my father doesn't my father-in-law doesn't like me to say, that was weird. And and I said, well, why? So he takes out this old dictionary and he says, you know, they changed the name of weird to
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Definition of weird.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Definition of weird because it used to mean, skilled in witchcraft, and now it means something else. And so we do that. We'll we'll change the name the change the meaning of of a word to get it to mean something else. And right now, these shots aren't even what they were originally named a long time ago. So we go into some of that and exposing some of these things, and then hopefully, again, we don't tell people what to think or what to do.
• 38:32
  We just give them some information, and then they can research it themselves, look into it, and they can make up their own mind and their own decisions.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: It's it's so it's so good. And what you said reminds me a lot is 1984, right, where they're just, you know, they're just rewriting everything. They're rewriting. They changed the definition of anti vaxxer. They're they're just they're rewriting the current and they're rewriting our history because all those things get in control of our future and you know, Matt, when you mentioned that that reawakening and how you start off with a quote from CS Lewis to me that also reminds me of just the reawakening of our conscience, the reawakening of our souls inside of us that you know, when we're we're born into this world, we don't see the truth inherently, you know, where there's a delusion that's here.
• 39:15
  You know, we don't see what's real in front of us. But it doesn't mean that what's inside of us doesn't remember or doesn't know or doesn't have that deeper connection to God that if we can reawaken that, then it can bring us back to this sense of purpose. And I've experienced that in the past couple of years, in a really powerful way of just this, my own reawakening of this is what I'm supposed to do. This is what I came here to do. Why my mission here is so much greater than just the the white picket fence.
• 39:43
  There's so much more important that's happening with humanity right now. And I think that for people like yourselves that are filmmakers and communicators, helping people, a, awaken their friends and family they're deceived, but b, awaken the people that that that believe this, but need that extra reminder of, I need to step up. I need to get out there and get involved in my community, get involved in my local precinct, get involved in my school board, etcetera. It's really important what you're doing. Thank you.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: And
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: and and, you know, our our hope, you know, is always we we definitely wanna educate, but also we wanna entertain people. And and and so a lot of people have actually been really surprised when they watch the documentary and they they're like, wow, was laughing. You know? And and and and we because we believe that, you know, like, you know, Joy said, you know, we hope and joy. And so and we always want to bring that because we feel like it's important for people to experience, because it's a story and it's, there's catharsis and it's important for people to be able to sit down and to feel those things and to experience that.
• 40:48
  That's an important part of the human experience and the thing that storytellers will bring. We don't wanna make people we just don't wanna get people angry. You know what mean? It's like we wanna, like, take them on a journey. And then all of a sudden, like you said, at the end of the day, if they get done watching our documentary and they feel like, wow, I feel inspired.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Mhmm.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Well, then then I feel like we've done our job or they feel curious, you know, like, oh, well, then we've done our job. If we then we've planted those seeds that are then going to grow, and they're going to bear fruit, and they're going to develop into something that, you know, they can then take and share with other people and so on and so forth.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Well, so we're we're hitting the end of our interviews. I mean, you guys have a very busy schedule, and I really appreciate taking time away from your schedule to to speak with me and and my audience. I just wanna remind folks that are watching in the link below is a is the link for a give sin go. Right?
• 41:40
  So it's our in the description below the video is that link. So if you wanna support what Matt and Joy are doing, it's very important work that you're doing. This is an information war, and these documentaries are powerful. And they're you're right. They're entertaining.
• 41:53
  Like, I'm I'm I'm very much a critic. It's hard to entertain me. I'm fast to turn things off and get frustrated, but I was jaw open almost as a hypnosis while watching your documentary. It's exceptionally well done. And the folks that watched it, if you watch the trailer for it, it really is not a great trailer that there's a big letdown.
• 42:13
  The excitement, the energy, the production value you saw in that trailer is just this this essence of what the entire documentary is.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I highly encourage everybody to go to Rise.TV. Watch it first. I mean, if you wanna give, that's great. But what make sure you watch it and share. Like, get the documentary out there.
• 42:32
  If you don't like it, you're you're free to let us know and say this is what I would change or whatnot. We're we are not against critical feedback. But I we really hope that we inspire you guys and that you really do enjoy it, and that we can create more content for your audience and for people to get to experience some good good stuff.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Yes. Absolutely.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Alright. Well, thank you both so much. I really appreciate we appreciate you coming on. All these links, I'll share on my telegram after we finish as well. That way we can get them out there.
• 43:03
  So thank you again. And once you release the the second documentary, I'll have you come back on again. Or once you have a trailer for it even, which I can't wait to see, let me know and we'll we'll keep this conversation going.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Sounds good.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks, buddy. Appreciate you.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Alright. Thank you both.